Kudos to you for noticing Emppu checking up on Tuomas. You looked a little lost for words but that didn’t matter, your face said it all. Thank you for a very respectful reaction. 🙏🏻
Such a sweet moment when Emppu checks up on Tuomas. Emppu and Marko were there during that hard time. They decided together that it was time to separate with Tarja, but the world seemed to blame Tuomas. I guess now you understand why you had to wait a bit before doing this reaction. It is a heavy song. With a heavy subject and heavy emotions. Not 'just a song' for the video list. That last 'mom and dad' part always fucking gets me. It makes my eyes pee.
During the few times that they have performed this live, Tuomas has the FOH sound engineer cut the vocals from his in ear monitor, with only the music playing. Tuomas has also said that with Floor singing it, it is the only time that it has the emotion and heart and soul that he originally wrote it with.
When you get to The Greatest Show on Earth, there's a decision to be made, and the army is divided on this (not in a bad way). There are two recommended versions of the "Show". One is from this Wembley Arena concert, and there's a special guest. The Tampere show is a bigger outdoors production. Epic, one might say. And you'll hear the special guest's parts from a recorded track, anyway. If you do the Tampere version, please don't be fooled by the 17 min HD version. It's shortened, the real track is over 21 minutes long. And please watch it all the way to the end through the credits. Everything there is part of the song.
I have always felt he wrote parts of this as he transitioned through the stages of grief & depression; each section emotes sadness, or pain, or anger, or hopelessness, with an underlying hopefulness in escape and healing through his love of nature, the support of his family, and those friends/fans who did not crucify him like many did.
I know that the background is important to understand this masterpiece. But to me - this really shows Tuomas's genius as a writer, and Floor's ability to express the soul in a song. I fully understand why they both were satisfied with the result. Both Anette and Marko tried, but couldn't come even close. Tuomas has described a deep depression in music and words, and Floor brought it to life = 2 x genius. Tuomas describtion of myriads of thoughts running wild and then becoming deep, described with instruments, and dramatic changes, soprano boys, and Floor (who wasn't around when he wrote it!). I don't see any other band who can perform anything like this, so effectful. Great reaction from you 👍 🤘 🤘 - it is obvious that you get a lot deeper insight on your first listinging, than most people. You understand what, how and why Tuomas did the composing to create this 👍🤘🤘
Without Anette there would only be Marko's darker and "nastier" demo version. The album was the "album which saved my life" - T. Holopainen. Floor was still singing and growling away (and kicking ass) with After Forever/Northward, which Tuomas in his kindness did not want to even try to break-up, when this masterpiece was first born.
I actually really like when rappers react to deep lyrical content (even though I'm not usually into rap), because they're equipped to fully appreciate it. So many reactors only care about the music and vocal production.
Brilliant reaction (your best so far :) to the absolute depths of this masterpiece. Note that Floor looks over several times too throughout.. she conveys so exactly Tuomas' feelings, and in doing so reaches into the dark depths of our soul into feelings that resonate with many of us also.. to that same place where some of us too, have been..
This song literally draws raw emotion from your very soul. I have listened to this 50 times and everytime it draws tears to my eyes. A masterpiece worthy to be valued amongst the classic composers of all time.
I could write a book on how much this song means to me. Every word, every note touches my soul. The best part, for me, are the last two words "The Beginning", bringing hope for the future. I really enjoyed your reaction.
You chose the best version of the song; Wembley 2015. There is so much into it that most people got tears or got into several different emotions. In the end its a great composition
A very good reaction man, I love how at the end his boys Emppu and Marko, the other band members that were involved with the Tarja firing, joined him in solidarity and support for their friend he felt so deeply about it and the backlash, he would commit suicide in the song.
When Tuomas fired Tarja, the original singer, with whom he’d been friends for years, he was depressed. When he got a ton of backlash from the fans, it made that even worse. He got to the point where he contemplated suicide, and ultimately write this song...killing himself in a song so he didn’t have to do it in real life. Note the times where Emppu and Marko go over to him to check on him, as the song is incredibly personal to him and dredges up bad memories. The last part...Mother and Father... are basically the words his mother said to him when he was so down.
You were ready for this, you nailed it! Thank you so much for satisfying this request, I believe your "Master Reaction Certified" now! Versifam satified! Toumas created emotion in this song that Floor injects into one's soul that lingers for days. The composition and vocals top this planet. You are ready for Toumas's greatest creation, NIGHTWISH - The Greatest Show on Earth (with Richard Dawkins) (OFFICIAL LIVE).
Well I guess it's time to cry. I love this song but it's hard Edited to add I have been that broken kid returning to the haven of my parents. Many attempts to end it all failed. Full blown 6 bottles of wine a day type life stuff. Somehow stuff got better & I'm still here. There is hope even through the hell.
You got the song so kudos to you. The whole Dark Pasion Play album was a release of pent up anger and frustration by the whole band, not just Toumas who got the blame for Tarja being fired.
There's always room for interpretation. Yes indeed, because it can always be a reflection of your own life. Nice to hear yours! You have a great perception.
You definitely nailed this one man! One of my top favorite reactions to this song. Did you notice the part that said "now I have only three minutes and counting"? Three minutes after that was said was tuomas's eulogy. Ugh floor just makes my heart ache and ball like a baby every time with this song! Great job man! 🤘❤️
This song is chronologically but played from Finnish to start. All parts are build around one of the “Five stages of grief” 1. Denial 2. Protest (of anger) 3. Negotiate and fight 4. Depression 5. Acceptance This song is autobiographical and not just fantasy, although it carries lots of fantastic elements in it. Tuomas the composer chose as main framework the story of Edgar Alan Poe ‘The Pit and the Pendulum’. The song starts with ‘White Lands of Emphatically’ (Book of Stephan King) Part one ‘the White Lands of Emphatica’ referring to Stephan King’s book. The poet without a rhyme: Tuomas had been shocked for a long time and had lost his motivation to go on living, the reactions to the sending of Tarja had affected him so badly. The poet could not make any poem anymore. The shoulder cries more: The poet (Tuomas) understand that he has no right to find comfort on her shoulder (he can’t go for comfort to Tarja whom he used to find comfort in the past) now that they cried more due to him. You can't cry on a shoulder they said you did wrong. He also can’t go to his hometown village cause mostly they are also pro Tarja. So Tuomas has been slaughtered by Tarja’s fans (All initially members are from the same town) due to her dismissal but the fans are angry about that. So Tuomas is the whore in the middle between what the cold world (the audience) demands or choosing what is right for the band future (and ask God to justify him). So Tuomas really has to be slaughtered (like Christ) in order to save the band’s future. And he knows it and takes it for granted. 2nd robber on Christ's right can cause some confusion. Is he referring to the painting 'The Last Supper' in that case he is the Judas, or does he mean the 2nd crucified next to Christ who after having also spotted finally 'takes the right side' and asks for forgiveness? Because there was no second cross to the right of Christ. There were only 3 crosses and Christ was hanging in the middle. (See also lyrics song & album with the same name: ‘Dark Passion’s Play’, ‘Death Boy’s Poem’ album: Wishmaster and ‘Deep Silence Complete’ also album title song) The fans spit on his grave and wish his body to rot in hell. (They will even not reach out and help him) the dead must bury their own dead. He is tired of everyone who’s opposing him. Tuomas (the death poet) has stopped willing to write songs for Tarja and also he lost his inspiration, energy and especially enthusiasm for continuing writing songs in general (1,000 pages erased text) He rather wants to die to get rid of everything and die (looking for comfort in the deep: suïcide) in the ocean. Even the mayor of their hometown took Tarja’s side. (All band members were from that same town and NW was their proud, so even the town was cut into halves). The last part is the welcoming by his parents in heaven so he did get his justification at least for make the right decision to fired Tarja but is aware that the curse was that NW did loose a lot of fans in this. In general: Marco representing the enemy camp and Floor representing Tuomas side. And yes, at several moments Marco and Troy stand with Tuomas giving him mental support.
@O. Van Gent I see it slightly differently, Marko indeed is the enemy camp portraying the media and fan backlash and vilification, to me they see Tuomas as the betrayer and killer of everything they have come to adore, thus the reference to the second robber on the right is indeed metaphorically the betrayer Judas Iscariot when looking OUT of Da Vinci's painting "The Last Supper." They want him dead for the outrage, infanticide, connected to his common character of "Boy", amongst others that we know, like poet (here), writer (here) and dreamer (here too). Marko conveys this aggression excellently. The final part, Mother and Father, I believe is reported to be what his parents said to him almost verbatim when he confided in them that he could not bear the pressure and strain any further and was seriously contemplating ending his life. They're saying he has so much more music and poetry inside as yet unleashed, which would be wasted, but whatever he decides they will always love him as their son, it's what any parent would do. However, notwithstanding all that and our various views and interpretations of lyrics, Tuomas does not explain the lyrics even to Floor who has to vocally characterise them, it is up to the listener, when pushed he will say it's near enough. He has said you should not question any artist, the interest and mystery is making your our interpretations, for example he has said if you could question Da Vinci about the Mona Lisa in all the detail and background, then the intrigue, interest, magic and mystery would be lost. We all see it differently, of course. But let's get one thing straight that I have seen here, Tuomas did not fire Tarja alone, the whole band signed the letter and I understand Emppu and Marko had already said they'd leave if the situation continued, they all signed the letter but Tuomas got all the blame. For Mr. Versifyer, you saw Emppu go over to Tuomas near the start to ask if he was OK and coping with it, and at the end when both him and Marko stand with him in support, but what you didn't see was the support from Floor in the song immediately before in this Wembley set, "Alpenglow", a more upbeat and diametrically opposed song would be hard to imagine ! In the final chorus, Floor stands on the podium with Tuomas and sings the line "Conquering the darkest places" directly at him.
I'll just add that the Tarja, was Tuomass muse, almost all of the music was written with her singing and capabilities in mind, personally I think that is part of the struggle that Annette had in trying to sing in Tarja's place, in a lot of ways, the fans were not accepting of Annette and this was not fair to her, for us to expect her to sing the same way. This song represents the hurt in this situation, Master, Passion, Greed is the anger, so angry it is said that Nightwish wrote death metal. The band has moved on from this, and I think in some ways is ashamed of how this went down. In some ways the fans are too, I think.
If it was "Robber, second ..." instead of "Second robber..." it would've definitely been clearer if it's meant to mean Judas. And since the section is called Dark Passion Play, it immediately invokes the scene of Jesus' death as that is what the Passion Play part is referring to. I think he might be alluding to both, given the word structure, and we are meant to pick our own connection as the audience.
@@EitherProductions Yep, Tuomas never explains the lyrics, even to the band and I believe he has said so publicly. ISTR he said it is the interest, intrigue and mystery that engages the avid listener, for example he said, if you could go back in time and interrogate da Vinci about exactly what he was thinking and painting for The Mona Lisa, then knowing everything would completely spoil the art as we see it today, it would become very ordinary.
Love your reaction and translation it was an emotional song and is great that only through this song did Tuomas taken his life and didn't do it for real as he's such a talented writer/composer it would of been a loss to the world.
It sucks when people misunderstand and misjudge you based on whatever they want to feel.. And no matter what is to say, you will always be the bad man..
The whole Dark Passion Play album is the sound of a heartbroken songwriter who's extremely angry about it, transitioning to someone who's looking forward to a bright future. Probably my favourite Nightwish album, but it's very very close.
Well done Mr. Versifyer. It's a masterwork and masterfully delivered by the band and Floor's vocalisation, some wet eyes around, me included, as always with this one. You need perhaps to take a look at Edgar Alan Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum" to which the theme relates. And perhaps in your own time, listen again, without pausing, taking especial note from "Three minutes and counting". . . . . . . . . Much appreciated, very commendable and thank you.
If you want more dark and heavy songs, then listen Master passion greed. It tells about Tarjas husband, and has not been performed many times if any. Markos vocals, and the other band male members do the back vocals/shouting...
Yep, this is the epitome of a very seriously pissed off Tuomas which I understand he had to rewrite to remove the quantity of foul language in his original. It has never been performed live and Tuomas has said it never will. It is rather good though !!
For a bit of fun you should react to Jonathan Young - Playing With the Big Boys. It's a metal interpretation of a song from the movie The Prince of Egypt.
Thank you. Great. You did the research and as everybody you analyzed. But if you leave all this aside - this is a great piece of Music. Composed great and played and sung so good.....Alone for that reason I love it. Dont get me wrong...analyzing is good...but sometimes it is enough to feel....and this song gives you a lot to feel..... You did great - thanks man.
in part 3, floor replaces a choir boy (the one doing the white lands of empathica in the beginning)..... which seems to me is not something that should be possible for an adult by the way, there is a demo version of the song with marko singing all the parts, and darker lyrics. should be a nice adventure too
Sadly you missed the significance of the line '3 minutes and counting'. Check out what happens exactly 3 minutes later. Another example of the mastermind Tuomas the Metal Mozart is.
On the Vehicle of Spirit DVD extras, Mexico at the end of this song, Marko, Empuu and Tuomas bro fist it's awesome. You sincerely should hear Tarja. I'm convinced she's not from this planet lol. That Goddess can reach can hit notes that are insane.
Solid reaction. Now go investigate some of their other sounds with different singers. I recommend Phantom of the Opera, Over the Hills and Far Away and Wish I Had an Angel for Tarja( said Tar-ya) the Original singer. For their second singer, Anette, I would try Scaretale, Bye Bye Beautiful and Slow Love Slow( which if you use the video clip will have Marko on Upright Bass!). Just some suggestions. I’m sure other folks have their favorites!
@Kelly111 @Neece LoneWolf... I don't actually disagree with your statements. Kelly, you make some good points. I tended to do it that way myself,, with Tarja first, as I got I Into the band maybe around 1999. I followed in a linear fashion. So I know what your saying. I guess all I meant to say was that if you disagree with how a certain reactor approaches his reactions in general, and to the Nightwish catalogue specifically, move on to another reactor. No need to post. I just tire of the negativity. Reactors get enough haters as it is, usually for ridiculous reasons. 100 reactors will approach Nightwish 100 different ways. @ Neece LoneWolf, I know the original comment was probably meant as constructive criticism. I just see too much of it, and had a gut reaction So apologies to you.
You will never understand!!! You've no feelings. A bad, characterless unloved boy! Important for you is to look how long the Video goes. I think you look 8 times on the timer. You only repeating what you read before. And than your angry, bad face, hard shell soft core. Show emotions, that is the way to react. 4 out of 10. P.s. try to understand what the musicians will tell!!!
You're awfully confrontational and overly critical. Not only have you trolled my channel before...but now I know you're watching regardless. If you wanna watch cool. If not...cool. but next time you want to be so degrading take a step in my size 12s cause from here on out I will make sure you are put all the way on blast. Stop belittling people that don't act like you.
Why are you even here if all you are going to do is be a troll? Over the top histrionics are not necessary to get a song and feel it. He stops at natural point that don’t interrupt the flow of the song. The sort of thing you understand and feel if you are actually listening and a musician.
One of the best reactions to this song I have seen. I think your focus on the lyrical content was spot on.
Now I thank you for one of the best reactions to this I have seen , You felt it and showed much respect for the personal nature of this.
Kudos to you for noticing Emppu checking up on Tuomas.
You looked a little lost for words but that didn’t matter, your face said it all.
Thank you for a very respectful reaction. 🙏🏻
Great composers are Beethoven , Chopin , Vivaldi and Tuomas Holopainen ! !
Such a sweet moment when Emppu checks up on Tuomas. Emppu and Marko were there during that hard time. They decided together that it was time to separate with Tarja, but the world seemed to blame Tuomas. I guess now you understand why you had to wait a bit before doing this reaction. It is a heavy song. With a heavy subject and heavy emotions. Not 'just a song' for the video list. That last 'mom and dad' part always fucking gets me. It makes my eyes pee.
"makes my eyes pee" I was good til I read that and then I lol'd hard!
@@Versifyer I need eye diapers.
May I just say that is one of the most empathic reactions I have seen. Well done.
You mean the part between the beginning and the end where I pretended I wasn't about to cry? lol. I tried to hide it!
Those 3 guys at the end went through this together ❤
Mother and father always get's me, it's one of the most beautiful pieces ever written. Especially heen Marko backstage up Floor, just WoW....
During the few times that they have performed this live, Tuomas has the FOH sound engineer cut the vocals from his in ear monitor, with only the music playing. Tuomas has also said that with Floor singing it, it is the only time that it has the emotion and heart and soul that he originally wrote it with.
By far the best reacton you did, no goofing around but listening to the lyrics and what they ment to you.
When you get to The Greatest Show on Earth, there's a decision to be made, and the army is divided on this (not in a bad way). There are two recommended versions of the "Show". One is from this Wembley Arena concert, and there's a special guest. The Tampere show is a bigger outdoors production. Epic, one might say. And you'll hear the special guest's parts from a recorded track, anyway.
If you do the Tampere version, please don't be fooled by the 17 min HD version. It's shortened, the real track is over 21 minutes long. And please watch it all the way to the end through the credits. Everything there is part of the song.
I have always felt he wrote parts of this as he transitioned through the stages of grief & depression; each section emotes sadness, or pain, or anger, or hopelessness, with an underlying hopefulness in escape and healing through his love of nature, the support of his family, and those friends/fans who did not crucify him like many did.
I know that the background is important to understand this masterpiece. But to me - this really shows Tuomas's genius as a writer, and Floor's ability to express the soul in a song. I fully understand why they both were satisfied with the result. Both Anette and Marko tried, but couldn't come even close.
Tuomas has described a deep depression in music and words, and Floor brought it to life = 2 x genius.
Tuomas describtion of myriads of thoughts running wild and then becoming deep, described with instruments, and dramatic changes, soprano boys, and Floor (who wasn't around when he wrote it!).
I don't see any other band who can perform anything like this, so effectful.
Great reaction from you 👍 🤘 🤘 - it is obvious that you get a lot deeper insight on your first listinging, than most people. You understand what, how and why Tuomas did the composing to create this 👍🤘🤘
Floor is my gal but I still think Anette does a great job on this one live.
Without Anette there would only be Marko's darker and "nastier" demo version. The album was the "album which saved my life" - T. Holopainen. Floor was still singing and growling away (and kicking ass) with After Forever/Northward, which Tuomas in his kindness did not want to even try to break-up, when this masterpiece was first born.
I actually really like when rappers react to deep lyrical content (even though I'm not usually into rap), because they're equipped to fully appreciate it. So many reactors only care about the music and vocal production.
Words are my life blood.
Another great reaction stunning song I'm with you on the wet eyes 👍🤘
Brilliant reaction (your best so far :) to the absolute depths of this masterpiece. Note that Floor looks over several times too throughout.. she conveys so exactly Tuomas' feelings, and in doing so reaches into the dark depths of our soul into feelings that resonate with many of us also.. to that same place where some of us too, have been..
You did this song justice.
Finally someone has done the research reading the backstory of this song (to understand it)
This song literally draws raw emotion from your very soul. I have listened to this 50 times and everytime it draws tears to my eyes. A masterpiece worthy to be valued amongst the classic composers of all time.
Thankyou for doing this masterpiece justice..
Thank you for being respectful 👍
I could write a book on how much this song means to me. Every word, every note touches my soul. The best part, for me, are the last two words "The Beginning", bringing hope for the future.
I really enjoyed your reaction.
You chose the best version of the song; Wembley 2015. There is so much into it that most people got tears or got into several different emotions. In the end its a great composition
A very good reaction man, I love how at the end his boys Emppu and Marko, the other band members that were involved with the Tarja firing, joined him in solidarity and support for their friend he felt so deeply about it and the backlash, he would commit suicide in the song.
Such overwhelming sincerity.
I'd say NW's most poignant composition that I've heard so far, thanks for doing it justice V.
When Tuomas fired Tarja, the original singer, with whom he’d been friends for years, he was depressed. When he got a ton of backlash from the fans, it made that even worse. He got to the point where he contemplated suicide, and ultimately write this song...killing himself in a song so he didn’t have to do it in real life. Note the times where Emppu and Marko go over to him to check on him, as the song is incredibly personal to him and dredges up bad memories. The last part...Mother and Father... are basically the words his mother said to him when he was so down.
You were ready for this, you nailed it! Thank you so much for satisfying this request, I believe your "Master Reaction Certified" now! Versifam satified! Toumas created emotion in this song that Floor injects into one's soul that lingers for days. The composition and vocals top this planet. You are ready for Toumas's greatest creation, NIGHTWISH - The Greatest Show on Earth (with Richard Dawkins) (OFFICIAL LIVE).
Well I guess it's time to cry.
I love this song but it's hard
Edited to add
I have been that broken kid returning to the haven of my parents. Many attempts to end it all failed. Full blown 6 bottles of wine a day type life stuff.
Somehow stuff got better & I'm still here. There is hope even through the hell.
You got the song so kudos to you. The whole Dark Pasion Play album was a release of pent up anger and frustration by the whole band, not just Toumas who got the blame for Tarja being fired.
There's always room for interpretation. Yes indeed, because it can always be a reflection of your own life. Nice to hear yours! You have a great perception.
Amazing song!
Loved to see your softer side here
Love your your usual crazy shouty side too!
Thank you, where next?
💜
I love it when TH-camrs ate prepared for this masterpiece. So, thumbs up for you, mate.
The whole visual and aural presentation makes me think of a lightning storm at sea. It’s eerie.
Ok you into the nitty gritty you have done it well, thankyou very much.
You definitely nailed this one man! One of my top favorite reactions to this song. Did you notice the part that said "now I have only three minutes and counting"? Three minutes after that was said was tuomas's eulogy. Ugh floor just makes my heart ache and ball like a baby every time with this song! Great job man! 🤘❤️
This song is chronologically but played from Finnish to start. All parts are build around one of the “Five stages of grief”
1. Denial
2. Protest (of anger)
3. Negotiate and fight
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
This song is autobiographical and not just fantasy, although it carries lots of fantastic elements in it. Tuomas the composer chose as main framework the story of Edgar Alan Poe ‘The Pit and the Pendulum’. The song starts with ‘White Lands of Emphatically’ (Book of Stephan King)
Part one ‘the White Lands of Emphatica’ referring to Stephan King’s book.
The poet without a rhyme: Tuomas had been shocked for a long time and had lost his motivation to go on living, the reactions to the sending of Tarja had affected him so badly. The poet could not make any poem anymore.
The shoulder cries more: The poet (Tuomas) understand that he has no right to find comfort on her shoulder (he can’t go for comfort to Tarja whom he used to find comfort in the past) now that they cried more due to him. You can't cry on a shoulder they said you did wrong. He also can’t go to his hometown village cause mostly they are also pro Tarja. So Tuomas has been slaughtered by Tarja’s fans (All initially members are from the same town) due to her dismissal but the fans are angry about that. So Tuomas is the whore in the middle between what the cold world (the audience) demands or choosing what is right for the band future (and ask God to justify him). So Tuomas really has to be slaughtered (like Christ) in order to save the band’s future. And he knows it and takes it for granted.
2nd robber on Christ's right can cause some confusion. Is he referring to the painting 'The Last Supper' in that case he is the Judas, or does he mean the 2nd crucified next to Christ who after having also spotted finally 'takes the right side' and asks for forgiveness? Because there was no second cross to the right of Christ. There were only 3 crosses and Christ was hanging in the middle.
(See also lyrics song & album with the same name: ‘Dark Passion’s Play’, ‘Death Boy’s Poem’ album: Wishmaster and ‘Deep Silence Complete’ also album title song) The fans spit on his grave and wish his body to rot in hell. (They will even not reach out and help him) the dead must bury their own dead. He is tired of everyone who’s opposing him.
Tuomas (the death poet) has stopped willing to write songs for Tarja and also he lost his inspiration, energy and especially enthusiasm for continuing writing songs in general (1,000 pages erased text) He rather wants to die to get rid of everything and die (looking for comfort in the deep: suïcide) in the ocean. Even the mayor of their hometown took Tarja’s side. (All band members were from that same town and NW was their proud, so even the town was cut into halves).
The last part is the welcoming by his parents in heaven so he did get his justification at least for make the right decision to fired Tarja but is aware that the curse was that NW did loose a lot of fans in this.
In general: Marco representing the enemy camp and Floor representing Tuomas side. And yes, at several moments Marco and Troy stand with Tuomas giving him mental support.
@O. Van Gent I see it slightly differently, Marko indeed is the enemy camp portraying the media and fan backlash and vilification, to me they see Tuomas as the betrayer and killer of everything they have come to adore, thus the reference to the second robber on the right is indeed metaphorically the betrayer Judas Iscariot when looking OUT of Da Vinci's painting "The Last Supper." They want him dead for the outrage, infanticide, connected to his common character of "Boy", amongst others that we know, like poet (here), writer (here) and dreamer (here too). Marko conveys this aggression excellently.
The final part, Mother and Father, I believe is reported to be what his parents said to him almost verbatim when he confided in them that he could not bear the pressure and strain any further and was seriously contemplating ending his life. They're saying he has so much more music and poetry inside as yet unleashed, which would be wasted, but whatever he decides they will always love him as their son, it's what any parent would do.
However, notwithstanding all that and our various views and interpretations of lyrics, Tuomas does not explain the lyrics even to Floor who has to vocally characterise them, it is up to the listener, when pushed he will say it's near enough. He has said you should not question any artist, the interest and mystery is making your our interpretations, for example he has said if you could question Da Vinci about the Mona Lisa in all the detail and background, then the intrigue, interest, magic and mystery would be lost.
We all see it differently, of course.
But let's get one thing straight that I have seen here, Tuomas did not fire Tarja alone, the whole band signed the letter and I understand Emppu and Marko had already said they'd leave if the situation continued, they all signed the letter but Tuomas got all the blame.
For Mr. Versifyer, you saw Emppu go over to Tuomas near the start to ask if he was OK and coping with it, and at the end when both him and Marko stand with him in support, but what you didn't see was the support from Floor in the song immediately before in this Wembley set, "Alpenglow", a more upbeat and diametrically opposed song would be hard to imagine ! In the final chorus, Floor stands on the podium with Tuomas and sings the line "Conquering the darkest places" directly at him.
Did you write Finnish with two N's as a pun or did you just spell Finish wrong?
I'll just add that the Tarja, was Tuomass muse, almost all of the music was written with her singing and capabilities in mind, personally I think that is part of the struggle that Annette had in trying to sing in Tarja's place, in a lot of ways, the fans were not accepting of Annette and this was not fair to her, for us to expect her to sing the same way. This song represents the hurt in this situation, Master, Passion, Greed is the anger, so angry it is said that Nightwish wrote death metal. The band has moved on from this, and I think in some ways is ashamed of how this went down. In some ways the fans are too, I think.
If it was "Robber, second ..." instead of "Second robber..." it would've definitely been clearer if it's meant to mean Judas. And since the section is called Dark Passion Play, it immediately invokes the scene of Jesus' death as that is what the Passion Play part is referring to. I think he might be alluding to both, given the word structure, and we are meant to pick our own connection as the audience.
@@EitherProductions Yep, Tuomas never explains the lyrics, even to the band and I believe he has said so publicly.
ISTR he said it is the interest, intrigue and mystery that engages the avid listener, for example he said, if you could go back in time and interrogate da Vinci about exactly what he was thinking and painting for The Mona Lisa, then knowing everything would completely spoil the art as we see it today, it would become very ordinary.
Love your reaction and translation it was an emotional song and is great that only through this song did Tuomas taken his life and didn't do it for real as he's such a talented writer/composer it would of been a loss to the world.
Easily your best reaction. Nicely done.
My first rock opera was"Tommy" by the Who. Still I was not ready for the emotion Floor makes you feel when I first saw this.
It sucks when people misunderstand and misjudge you based on whatever they want to feel.. And no matter what is to say, you will always be the bad man..
I knew you had a soul and emotion because of that I follow you. Too strong a song. Thank you 🥂🍀
Thank you dude, for a reaction I'll watch many many times. Thank you. :)
The whole Dark Passion Play album is the sound of a heartbroken songwriter who's extremely angry about it, transitioning to someone who's looking forward to a bright future. Probably my favourite Nightwish album, but it's very very close.
Well done Mr. Versifyer. It's a masterwork and masterfully delivered by the band and Floor's vocalisation, some wet eyes around, me included, as always with this one.
You need perhaps to take a look at Edgar Alan Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum" to which the theme relates.
And perhaps in your own time, listen again, without pausing, taking especial note from "Three minutes and counting". . . . . . . . .
Much appreciated, very commendable and thank you.
Your best reaction!❤
Ooh! I was not going to watch yt this morning but now I kinda have to :')
You held it together better than I, my tears made it to my beard, and I've heard it many times.
Barely my friend. Barely.
I know it’s corny but I always change the lyric in my head to “Search for beauty, find your Floor” just fits IMO
If you want more dark and heavy songs, then listen Master passion greed. It tells about Tarjas husband, and has not been performed many times if any. Markos vocals, and the other band male members do the back vocals/shouting...
Yep, this is the epitome of a very seriously pissed off Tuomas which I understand he had to rewrite to remove the quantity of foul language in his original.
It has never been performed live and Tuomas has said it never will. It is rather good though !!
For a bit of fun you should react to Jonathan Young - Playing With the Big Boys. It's a metal interpretation of a song from the movie The Prince of Egypt.
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Thank you. Great. You did the research and as everybody you analyzed. But if you leave all this aside - this is a great piece of Music. Composed great and played and sung so good.....Alone for that reason I love it. Dont get me wrong...analyzing is good...but sometimes it is enough to feel....and this song gives you a lot to feel..... You did great - thanks man.
It was absolutely beautiful. I listened several times afterward!
in part 3, floor replaces a choir boy (the one doing the white lands of empathica in the beginning)..... which seems to me is not something that should be possible for an adult
by the way, there is a demo version of the song with marko singing all the parts, and darker lyrics. should be a nice adventure too
Even the Prime Minister of Finland became involved in the "Tarja thing" - pressure much?
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Sadly you missed the significance of the line '3 minutes and counting'. Check out what happens exactly 3 minutes later. Another example of the mastermind Tuomas the Metal Mozart is.
On the Vehicle of Spirit DVD extras, Mexico at the end of this song, Marko, Empuu and Tuomas bro fist it's awesome. You sincerely should hear Tarja. I'm convinced she's not from this planet lol. That Goddess can reach can hit notes that are insane.
Solid reaction. Now go investigate some of their other sounds with different singers. I recommend Phantom of the Opera, Over the Hills and Far Away and Wish I Had an Angel for Tarja( said Tar-ya) the Original singer. For their second singer, Anette, I would try Scaretale, Bye Bye Beautiful and Slow Love Slow( which if you use the video clip will have Marko on Upright Bass!). Just some suggestions. I’m sure other folks have their favorites!
Hey NW people he hasn't heard Tarja yet, sincerely stop rushing reactors to react to this song without hearing Tarja. For goodness sake.
@Neece Lonewolf...Why does he need to hear Tarja first? Is this your journey or his?...Just saying. Let the man do his thing.
@Kelly111 @Neece LoneWolf... I don't actually disagree with your statements. Kelly, you make some good points. I tended to do it that way myself,, with Tarja first, as I got I Into the band maybe around 1999. I followed in a linear fashion. So I know what your saying. I guess all I meant to say was that if you disagree with how a certain reactor approaches his reactions in general, and to the Nightwish catalogue specifically, move on to another reactor. No need to post. I just tire of the negativity. Reactors get enough haters as it is, usually for ridiculous reasons. 100 reactors will approach Nightwish 100 different ways. @ Neece LoneWolf, I know the original comment was probably meant as constructive criticism. I just see too much of it, and had a gut reaction So apologies to you.
You will never understand!!!
You've no feelings. A bad, characterless unloved boy!
Important for you is to look how long the Video goes. I think you look 8 times on the timer. You only repeating what you read before.
And than your angry, bad face, hard shell soft core.
Show emotions, that is the way to react.
4 out of 10.
P.s. try to understand what the musicians will tell!!!
You're awfully confrontational and overly critical. Not only have you trolled my channel before...but now I know you're watching regardless. If you wanna watch cool. If not...cool. but next time you want to be so degrading take a step in my size 12s cause from here on out I will make sure you are put all the way on blast. Stop belittling people that don't act like you.
@@Versifyer Heiko's comment literally only makes sense if they were watching on mute.
@@Versifyer I would really urge you to completely ignore comments like this.. Just keep doing what you do. You are appreciated Versifyer
Why are you even here if all you are going to do is be a troll? Over the top histrionics are not necessary to get a song and feel it. He stops at natural point that don’t interrupt the flow of the song. The sort of thing you understand and feel if you are actually listening and a musician.