Valentine's Day is Not Pagan
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- Every year around Valentine's Day we start hearing about how it comes from paganism. Well, this video takes a look at the history behind this holiday.
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Ronald Hutton - Stations of the Sun
Jacqueline Simpson and Steve Roud - A Dictionary of English Folklore
Ovid - Fasti Book 2
“Lupercus.” Lupercus | Encyclopedia Mythica,
3 Mar. 1997, pantheon.org/articles/l/lupercus.html.
Charles Russell Coulter - Encyclopedia of Ancient Deities
Bonnie Bullough, Vern Bullough - Human Sexuality: An Encyclopedia
Leonhard Schmitz - “Lupercalia.” A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities
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It amazes me how many people just took his word without question.
Conspiracies are still fun tho
I watch Truthunedited. . I have to agree on how he responded to you. “Your desire is not Spirit led but from a desire of the flesh to prove something.” And that’s exactly what I got out of this video. It’s not about being more holy. It’s about what’s happening in the Spiritual. Yeah it can be harmless in the physical but do you ever think about the spiritual?
Ephesians 6:12 “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”
God bless.
Marvin Ramos how is desire to tell an audience the truth a bad thing
@@swazilandandbotswana8856
Who said it's TRUE? "Skeptics" question everything about God.. well Christian's should be skeptical about EVERYTHING popular in a God-dishonoring world. I'd rather err on the side of caution. Dates were very important to the Jews and they seem to be very important to the demonic forces as well...
If God didn't prescribe it, it should be questioned over and over again
Marvin Ramos Also truth unedited is a fear monger if you actually watch his videos on world war three
English is technically a pagan language. So, we should stop speaking it as well.
Everything is pagan my friend so we should stop living😉.. Jesus came to cleanse all sins. So we can live. Glory be the Lord.
TH-cam is made by Pagans. Get off of this platform /s
@@drserr6581 Nope
Ash I get what you’re trying to say, but it’s not.
So is Greek, so I guess we have to throw out the New Testament.
It’s literally named after a Saint .
Just because it’s name as something doesn’t mean it didn’t originated from somewhere. People could bring the KKK and names it st.houstin day
Also in the future IP gon make a video about “st. Houston is NOT pagan”
Catholics are not saints
Mr Dyntasy nope, I literally just made an accurate depiction of how people are portraying holidays.
Just because your feelings gets offended doesn’t equal stupidity, instead of logic you chose an insult so by logic you’re stupid. Look at the evidence, it speaks for itself.
Authorized Mike careful, you don’t want to be asked if you’re stupid.
Doesn’t the intent matter much more than the day?
To the individual, yes, intent matters more than the day. That is between the individual and God. But if they're celebrating it publicly, then their brother or sister's conscience comes into play. If someone knows that what they are doing may offend a brother or sister, then they become accountable for it. You can't say for example, that I knew that Valentine's day was an offence to a brother or sister, but I celebrated it anyway because I had good intentions. We are commanded to love each other as Christ loved us, but we are not commanded to celebrate Valentine's day. We can't let tradition overrule God's command. (See Romans 14, 1 Corinthians 8, 1 Corinthians 10, Matthew 15:3-6)
@@henryodera5726 Well said!
Pagan holidays are meant to initiate those partaking.One is paganised at most.
@BVale I don't know what you mean by 'social justice warrior', but this is where I get the idea about looking after my brother or sister's conscience:
First of all:
"So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin."
James 4:17 ESV
Then, as to what is considered as the right thing to do in this scenario:
"So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, just as I try to please everyone in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved."
1 Corinthians 10:31-33 ESV
"Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that "all of us possess knowledge." This "knowledge" puffs up, but love builds up. Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that "an idol has no real existence," and that "there is no God but one." However, not all possess this knowledge. But some, through former association with idols, eat food as really offered to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. But TAKE CARE THAT THIS RIGHT OF YOURS DOES NOT SOMEHOW BECOME A STUMBLING BLOCK FOR THE WEAK. For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols? And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. Thus, sinning against your brothers and WOUNDING THEIR CONSCIENCE WHEN IT IS WEAK, YOU SIN AGAINST CHRIST. Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble."
1 Corinthians 8:1,4,7-13 ESV
"One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather DECIDE NEVER TO PUT A STUMBLING BLOCK OR HINDRANCE IN THE WAY OF A BROTHER. I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then LET US PURSUE WHAT MAKES FOR PEACE AND FOR MUTUAL UPBUILDING. Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. IT IS GOOD NOT TO EAT MEAT OR DRINK WINE OR DO ANYTHING THAT CAUSES YOUR BROTHER TO STUMBLE. The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin."
Romans 14:5-9,13-23 ESV
@BVale Oh. Then I think that their general idea of not wanting to cause offence has merit, but in their case it is being incorrectly applied when they include God in the list of things that cause offence. I think that is an example of the devil pretending to be an angel of light, and distorting God's message in an attempt to use it against Him, just as He tried to do as He was tempting Christ to jump off the Temple in Jerusalem. He has taken the biblical ideas of peace, unity, and love, and is trying to pervert them, but Christians know better. We can smell his lies from a mile away. And anyone who claims to have good intentions while also trying exclude, silence, disqualify or distort the Gospel of Christ should always be treated with a high degree of suspicion. I'd say this goes for the so-called 'social justice warriors', just as much as prosperity preachers, and anyone who misrepresents the Gospel.
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers."
John 10:27,5 ESV
"And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds."
2 Corinthians 11:12-15 ESV
Some people want everything to be evil, so they can feel more righteous.
Yeah they probably want to feel they are the only ones chosen by god
Louise D pretty much sums it up
Truth
Fax!
@@swazilandandbotswana8856 Growing up as a Jehovahs witness, I cant stress enough how true that is. I'm stuck inside their church still as im not completely independent or living on my own. My brother is the same though he no longer attends their church. We're both Christians though.
Holy moly. I've never even seen people try to argue it was, but alright.
I don’t believe for a second there’s anything wrong with having a nice dinner with my wife out and treating her with love and respect just as the good Lord will command. Of course I do that every day but I don’t want people to tell me just because I do that on the 14th somehow it’s “pagan”
You can do that everyday even on the 14th, but when you do it as a celebration of St Valentine then it's a sin
Ginger Ale Agreed
@@justchilling704 But the 25th of December was the celebration of Zeus' B-day. Jesus was born in the Fall.
😂😂😂 I don't think anyone will be criticized for taking their wife out on Valentine's. However, there's roses and red clothing, and other symbolisms that mark Valentine's day, otherwise you wouldn't be celebrating Valentine's day, you'd just be going on a date. I don't think anyone will be criticized for going on a normal date, especially if it's something they usually do.
But why even go out on that specific date at the risk of offending a brother or sister? Why not just order in? I doubt anyone goes on dates for 365 days a year, so skipping one day shouldn't be a problem, unless of course that date has some kind of significance that makes one unable to skip it.
And if it truly has no significance, then why would one opt to potentially offend a brother or sister over something of no significance?
You should do that as often as you can... not because of a holiday, but I agree with you that doing it on this day does no harm. :-)
I don't bother much with holidays myself, and my rule of thumb is that if something is considered controversial by Christians or unbelievers, and is unnecessary to comply with (e.g. Valentines day), it is probably best to follow Paul's principle on this in 1 Corinthians 8. It addresses food, but it can be applied to any disputable thing, including celebration of any holiday (there is no holiday that is a necessary requirement for any Christian to celebrate), and I think that Romans 14 even makes some kind of connection between the concepts of 'holy' or 'unholy' foods, and 'holy' or 'unholy' days, where in Romans 14:20, Paul urges us not to destroy God's work for the sake of food.
So I guess in this instance, I think that he'd say: don't destroy God's work for the sake of Valentine's day. I think that if there's even a hint of paganism associated with it, then there's really no reason for a Christian to celebrate it, or defend it. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 8:13, "Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I cause my brother to stumble." We have no loyalty to holidays, our loyalties only lie with Christ.
"So concerning the eating of foods that are offered in sacrifice to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one. For there are those who are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, as there are many gods and many lords. But for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist. And there is one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. However, not everyone has this knowledge. Some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat the food as a thing offered to an idol. So their weak conscience is defiled. But food does not commend us to God. Neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse. But take heed, lest by any means this liberty of yours becomes a stumbling block to those who are weak. For if anyone sees you, who have knowledge, eating in the idol’s temple, shall the conscience of him who is weak not be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols, and by your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? When you thus sin against the brothers, wounding their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I cause my brother to stumble."
1 Corinthians 8:4-13 MEV
Goodness, we need to stop using the days of the week as all the names come from pagan sources and the months too. My goodness, suck all the joy out if everything by fear mongering over nothing. If it's a celebration that causes you to falter in your faith, don't celebrate it.
I always thought it had more to do with the greeting card companies trying to make money, like with Mother's Day and Father's Day. Maybe those are pagan too. Geez.
I agree
Roman catholicism took over the whole calender and renamed days and month honoring Sun god and Roman gods.
@Achu 03 true but they did retain the names of the months on purpose and deliberate,and still the sabbath was replaced with SUN (god) day worship.
Christmas and Easter were invented the same way.
@@justinamusyoka4986 easter is literally a pagan holiday of spring celebrating the goddess who's anglicised name is Easter, don't even try wednesday(wüdensday or odinsday)
Thursday(thorsday)
Friday(freyasday)
And rhe last three are named after roman gods
Even your cristmas carols are pagan dude
Thank you, Mike, for creating these videos. As a suggestion, maybe you can also cover the claim of many evangelical Christians that the famous RPG „Dungeons & Dragons“ allegedly had satanic connections or undertones. I don‘t know if it fits the scope of your channel, but it would be a welcome addition, and a long awaited answer to said question.
Dont forget Pokemon and Harry Potter!
Bridge to Terebintha too
@@zhihanlim3500 What? How was that offensive?
@@zhihanlim3500 yes I’m struggling with claim for months even though I had many answers that it’s not
The ad I got before the video came on was from a conspiracy theory channel that was condemning the Christian celebration of Christmas!
Ironic
Jesus was not born on 25 dec ,follow the Bible not the tradition of the world
Getting it right now
@@si_a_to2086 the Bible never says anything about the date and we most of us know he wasn't born at this date
@@si_a_to2086 I've never even met a Christian that even believed Jesus was born on the 25th lol
Reminds me of that episode of Chilling Adventure of Sabrina where they celebrate Lupercalia. They even included the part where males were paired with females via a maypole dance.
Whether it's pagan or not is not relevant to me. That these holidays are more about driving sales through emotional guilt tripping is what bothers me. People are pressed to go all out to prove their love in spending money they may not have. It also bothers me that the emphasis is always placed on material exchanges and temporal happiness, leaving intense lack of happiness and loneliness within others around those holidays.
For each of those holidays, and Valentine's day included, appreciation seems to come with a hefty price tag and all sorts of foolishness that leaves relationships between couples, families, friends and colleagues damaged because someone is perceived to have not done enough to show appreciation.
Appreciation and love can be shown in far better and meaningful ways throughout the year. There isn't a need to observe a special day to demonstrate love and appreciation when it should be a daily practice from Christians who proclaim to be transformed inwardly as they live out God's word.
Arguing origins of certain holidays doesn't seem to address the actual issues that were created since its implementation, but this is not that platform so I understand.
Your average person on Valentine's Day buys chocolates and a card. They might go out to dinner. If they're single, they might not do anything. No one is being cheated out of their livelihood.
People are either responsible with their money or they aren't.
Thank you! Yet another illuminating, inspirational work. May you long continue in this blessed vocation.
Wow. Thank you so much for getting this out there. I became paranoid years ago that Xmas was not a Christian holiday because I naively believed the garbage lies that some were peddling and was very glad to learn the truth - especially since Xmas is may favourite holiday. Pagans don't have a monopoly on days of the year or harmless fun, so down with puritanism.
Did Elohim tell you to celebrate Christmas? Or did he tell you to keep 3 holy feasts a year. Did any of the apostles celebrate Christmas or is this a man made tradition that TMH says he despises?
@@SheekaAttiba Did God tell you to right this comment? You don't think that the Apostles and Mary celebrated the incarnation of our Lord? God did tell me to celebrate Christmas and the other holidays through the Church that He established.
@@keithmayhewhammond5357 Its write and if you have trouble with English you may want to reevaluate your discernment.
@@SheekaAttiba Thank you for the spelling correction. I must have been tired when I wrote it. However it actually works as an unintended secondary meaning - that you were trying to right/correct my comment. Though I appreciate your spelling correction, I am fairly confused about the rest of your statement. You are trying to claim now that if someone spells a word wrong that this somehow implies mistaken religious practices? If that is your choice of argument then perhaps you should reconsider your own discernment - because clearly you are not very good at arguing your position well. Not perfect spelling does not mean not perfect religion. I am 100% sure that you make spelling mistakes often (we all do), and I doubt you would reconsider your religious discernment over such a thing.
Dude, its not lies it is historical fact the catholic church had blasphemized many pagan holidays and made them into cristian ones, jesus wasnt even born on Christmas he would have been born around november.
Easter is named after a pagan goddess of spring and is a celebration for crops to come
Valentines day IS based on the roman holiday stated and the historians he credits have been refuted many times
St. Patricks day is cristian although it is loosely based on a pagan holiday but they occur a few weeks apart
You people even stole the word pagan from the Pagan who are witches who worship celtic gods, and you currupted it into meaning non-cristian.
If you want truly biblical holidays celebrate the festival of lights, passover and all of the wonderful holiday the jews and muslims celebrate since the bible literally tells you these holy days
YES! I do not like Valentine's Day, but I appreciate your videos because I have friends that hate any holiday that is not explicitly mentioned in Scripture. This attitude I believe is a real detriment to our witness. All throughout Scripture righteous people participated in their modern culture-- as long as it was not explicitly sinful. Thank you for these fabulous videos-- your Genesis 1-3 are blowing my mind! I need to watch them again.
Moreover, Jesus celebrated holidays that God never commanded be celebrated in the pages of the Scriptures! In Esth9:27-28, we see that God never commanded Purim; the book merely records that the Jews decided to celebrate it. God never commanded anyone to celebrate Hanukkah; that feast too celebrates events in the Bible (if you consider Maccabees canonical), but in no canon does God command you celebrate it.
Yet we see Our Lord (Jn5:9;Jn10:22) celebrated both of these religious feasts!
If people come up with a test of morality that Jesus wouldn't pass, either it's not a very good test, or Jesus wasn't perfectly moral.
@@claymcdermott718 apples to oranges
Inspiringphilosophy can you make a video presentation about cartesian certainty and explain its problems or atleast link me to scholarly articles or books discussing the subject. Please Thank You.
There are some other reasons to reject Valentine's Day, such as commercialism, consumerism, and exclusion, or even added trauma to people who are single or people who are divorced or widowed.
Love it. I think it sucks you won't respond to people who aren't social media famous, but I want to say that I hope you do a video on the "weaker brother" argument made by Brotha J in your debate over whether Christmas is pagan. I obviously agree with you, as a Traditional Christian and I think its warranted to argue as Paul did that while you can both respect your weaker brother, you are not obligated to avoid correcting false teachers and cults when they drum up superstitious fear over these holiday conspiracy theories. God bless.
😆 I love the tone of “right lets get this done and bury this silly objection”. Btw, great job as always 👌 you’re material is so recommendable to sceptical or searching friends of mine 👍
Do Saint Patrick’s day next
LOL
....and PACHAMAMA.
Next up: Presidents day is not Pagan.
St. Patrick's day is Catholic, loosely based on a pagan holiday but they do not occur on the same day
@@wyattwahlgren8883 Your comment is gold, unfortunately it got burried
Dancing with my sweetiepie at my church's annual Valentine's Day Dance to express my love for her and to dunk on legalistic pharisees in the comment section.
Likely driven by whore moans not looking into the deeper reality in a SPIRITUAL sense.
I was always taught that valentine's day is about the celebration of marriage and love bc Saint valentine secretly married Christians in the Roman empire during the times when Christians were not permitted to gather or to marry. Idk how true it is, but I don't see anything ungodly about celebrating love and marriage.
Inspiring Philosophy
Thank you for this video. We needed something like this.....
Misleading title. Actually, At the end of the 5th century, Pope Gelasius I replaced *Lupercalia* (A Roman Feast) with 'St. Valentine’s Day.' (14th and 15th Feb) It came to be celebrated as a day of romance from about the 14th century. I'm sure you're capable of looking up "Lupercalia"? :0)
We addressed that in the video towards the end, if you missed it.
Actually there is no mention of St Valentine or his day in the letter Pope Gelasius sent to the senator about the banning of Lupercalia.
@@InspiringPhilosophy ~ Yes, it's interesting that you leave it to the last in your presentation - since it's the most important thing here and you should have been much more up front. It gives the lie to the badly chosen title as I mentioned. Actually, "Saint *s* Valentine were frequently in vogue (There are at least 10 "Valentines in the church hagiography! - and many more in the Eastern churches - the name means "Worthy, strong or powerful") I think Pope Gelasius 1 chose 'St Valentine' for a number of reasons to replace the VERY pagan feast of Lupercalia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
The church had embarked on a long-term strategy of systematically removing traces of the older religions, mostly important figures from the known history of the time; and replacing old temples by destroying them and erecting churches in their place.
Another reason is that the better known 'Valentine' was very wealthy and very well known in the upper echelons. He is credited with all sorts of good deeds and many spurious miracles. In addition, the early catholic church had his remains handy {or someone's remains anyway!) to exhibit and for the faithful to adore. (The church has TWO separate biographies for possibly the same person) For a resumé, see: - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Valentine
There is no contemporary evidence to support the popular notions that Gelasius abolished the Lupercalia, or that he, or any other prelate, replaced it with the Feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin Mary.[23] A literary association between Lupercalia and the romantic elements of Saint Valentine's Day dates back to Chaucer and poetic traditions of courtly love.
Henry Ansgar Kelly (1986), in "Chaucer and the Cult of Saint Valentine" (Leiden: Brill), pp. 58-63
^ Michael Matthew Kaylor (2006), Secreted Desires: The Major Uranians: Hopkins, Pater and Wilde (electronic ed.), Masaryk University (re-published in electronic format), p. footnote 2 in page 235, ISBN 978-80-210-4126-4
^ Jack B. Oruch, "St. Valentine, Chaucer, and Spring in February" Speculum 56.3 (July 1981:534-565)
Forbes, Bruce David (October 27, 2015). America's Favorite Holidays: Candid Histories. University of California Press. p. 54. ISBN 9780520284722. There is no indication in suppressing the Lupercalia, Gelasius put anything else in its place. Much later, in the 1500s, a Cardinal Baronius speculated that Gelasius converted the Lupercalia into the Feast of the Purification of the Virgin (or Candlemas), changing one purification ceremony into another, and many noted authors have repeated this claim. Recent scholarship has refuted Baronius's assertion...there is no evidence that Gelasius advocated a celebration of Valentine's Day as a replacement for the Lupercalia. ... The letter by Gelasius to Andromachus criticizing the Lupercalia contains no reference to Valentine, or Valentine's Day, or any replacement observance.
Keep up the good work, IP. Appreciate all you do.
This holiday encourages pple to have sexual/intimate relationships outside of a marriage, especially teenagers, so I don't even have to watch the history or the video from truthunedited to know its not from God.
Point on.
Robert Zota just because non Christians celebrate Valentine’s Day that way doesn’t mean that Christians celebrate it that way. You don’t have to follow the worlds way of celebrating it. Married couples celebrate Valentine’s Day to you know.
What is the significance of celebrating Valentine’s Day?
Exactly This channel can’t even answer that
I may need to brush up on my history but I thought the theory was when establishing when to celebrate Saint Valentine the early church intentionally put it close to the already established Pagan holiday in order to draw Pagans to christianity. Not that it was actually linked.
As far as I can tell, when Gelasius confirmed the fittingness of celebrating a long list of martyrs whose biographical details had long since been forgotten, one of them was Valentine. Pope Gelasius mostly confirmed these martyrs already existing rotations on the calendar. So, Valentine was probably already being commemorated on some local calendar on the 14th (probably sharing the day with a few others).
Evidently, his legend and association with Christian marriage had not yet developed, and even if it had, Lupercal didn't have a romantic connection.
So, the theory that St Valentine's Day was moved to the 14th to make-up for taking Lupercal away is not really tenable.
It's not Valentine's Day..
It's Saint Valentine's Day!
@Achu 03 exactly....
@Achu 03 they would have called it Val's day just couldn't do it because girls would have liked that hahah..
Same thing here goes for Halloween, Easter etc. Whatever it used to be in the past, if we can agree the practice nowadays has elements of paganism and is mostly characterized with these elements in our culture... why do we like to cherish them so much as to hold on to it? Quite strange when u think about it. The "holy-day" Valentines really has no (religious) significance to us apart from what pop-culture is telling us. Quite strange when i think about it...
Cherished as people are deluded and or love the world. What does God say about those who love the world and things in it.
Can you please do a video on st valentine the man
The issue I think that is present here is that peopel assume that traditional holidays, traditional events, or simply traditions because they were present during a pagan period are in themselves inherently pagan. This confuses culture with the religion of that culture, and while religion is a major element of culture it is not the entirety of culture. Its much like in archeology when someone finds an odd object they term it a object of the cult. Or a religious object when often later it turns out to be something as benign as a traditional set of pottery with specific sybology representing say the sun, a hunt, a person, at times even just someones name. Many practices became christianised with time. And are now part of inherent christian culture. They are however not inherently pagan. Its kind of like the baltic states baking bread with specific symbology on it, however it is now intimately tied to the christian holy days and celebrated specifically in tandem often coalescing in meetings in church.
Not to mention this example which is a day named after a siant. It is likely that "pagan" or pre christian culture had this day as well, chances are it occured on a random day and was considered a good day and a day to celebrate however it does not mean that this was a day involved with pagan gods, or horrible rituals. That is I think what we need to remember during any of these discussions. Pre christian =/= pagan. And it is as I said earlier. Culture is not just religion, it has many elements to it, the sacred, the material, the every day and banal etc. This is also why so many christian countries fundumentally differ in culture.
Bogatyr Bogumir I remember hearing a comment that helped to separate some of these ideas it was something like this. Just because pagans danced and sang doesn’t make dancing and singing a pagan practice that Christians should avoid. Using reasoning and discernment usually leads to correct thinking and of course praying for Gods wisdom always!
Made my wife and I steak, snow crabs and potatoes happy Valentine's day 👍🤷♂️
Good now do that on a day your not expected to do something out of normal
Do a video on tray the explainer
Ahhhhh I figured you were talking about Truthunedited 😅 he is kinda a nut job - he thinks the world is ending & won’t let his sons or his wife celebrate Christmas - what kind of answer is that - “the spirit isn’t leading me - your desire isn’t spirit led but lead by the flesh” what the heck lol who talks like that 🙃- I get Bible Flock Box (seventh day Adventist) vibes from him - who also makes doomsday and every holiday is pagan videos - soon Columbus Day or MLK day will also becomes pagan - they will find a way. definitely don’t feel safe on their channel 😅 maybe do one about Saint Patrick’s Day or the Sabbath day too? thank you for another great video Mike! 💕 happy Valentine’s Day
I will reiterate what I said in one of your previous videos on Christians "adopting" paganism: just because two things are similar doesn't mean they are the same or that one comes from the other. If a custom becomes pagan simply because pagans do it, then literally everyone, Christian and non-Christian alike, would be a pagan because some things that pagans do, like eating, drinking, sleeping, wearing clothing, living in a house, and working in a job, are common to everyone.
That is the worst strawman I have ever seen from anyone. Ever. Bad argument.
Good video! I don’t agree with the Halloween stance you take, I mean look at the entire spirit surrounding that holiday. It’s dark, evil, full of witches, and so on. But when it comes to these other holidays like Valentine’s Day ,, sure ditch the Cupid, but the rest is no problem. The majority of all of these US holidays were put in as alternatives to pagan holidays, not pagan themselves.
Pope Gelasius' and St Valentine's Day's relationship comes from the fact that Gelasius affirmed Valentine's status as a saint.
A question arose as to whether it was appropriate to honor various early saints who died in the Diocletian persecutions, given that very little was known of their lives by the 6th century. Gelasius affirmed that Valentine and other recorded martyrs were " justly reverenced among men, but whose acts are known only to God."
Gelasius thus affirmed the popular acclamation of Valentine's sanctity, and he approved of (what was almost certainly the prior practice of) honoring him at Mass on the 14th of February.
The pope did not "invent" the feast of St Valentine - which at that time had zero connection to romance. Gelasius approved the continuing memorial of a minor martyr, on what was probably the historical day of his murder.
The historical Valentine was probably only remembered during the Gelasian pontificate because there were three liturgically celebrated martyrs named "Valentine" (a not uncommon name for Christian families) in different regions, the most famous being a Roman whose shrine and grave was along a rather prominent road. This repetition of the name in different calendars meant that he wasn't excluded when a liturgical calendar was being standardized in Rome around that time.
TL;DR Very important Pope did something boring that did nothing to connect Valentine with romance or Lupercal, at least not in his mind.
A believer in pagan evolution theory is complaining about paganism 🤔
Do you think the Earth is flat too. By the Way dummy Creation is Pagan in case you never heard of Theogony the Greco-Roman Scripture that is better grandfather of your unholy Genesis fiction fairytale.
Why does it seem like he has such a negative view of conspiracy theories? Read Psalm 2; it is true that the kings of the earth set themselves against the Lord and against His anointed( Messiah).
That psalm was fulfilled when king Herod, Pontius Pilate, and the religious leaders take council together against Christ at his crucifixion. It’s not about modern conspiracy theories.
Thy Kingdom Come No, but the point is that conspiracies happen all the time, interpersonally and within the ranks of government. The validity of (insert conspiracy here) should be determined on a case by case basis.
@@diegobarragan4904 that Wasn't the Kings of the earth setting themselves against the Lord and against His Messiah! That is when Jesus comes back the armies of the WORLD are gathered together.
Jeff H then you are calling the apostle peter a liar because he interpreted this way not me... don’t argue about the Bible if you don’t know it.
Acts 4
25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.
There is a historical backdrop of paganism in Hutton's upbringing. He was "acquainted with Wiccans from his youth," and "has become a "well-known and much loved figure" in the British Pagan community." He also thinks Tolkein's and Lewis's works contain pagan themes throughout. Balderdash! Make sure to put his "history" of Valentine's Day within its proper context.
Source: Whitlock, Robin (January-February 2011). "Is it time for Pagans to fight for their rights?". Kindred Spirit. 108:
there are various theories of why we celebrate st valentines day here are some according to the wiki
The inconsistency in the identification of the saint is replicated in the various vitae that are ascribed to him.
A common hagiography describes Saint Valentine as a priest of Rome or as the former Bishop of Terni, an important town of Umbria, in central Italy. While under house arrest of Judge Asterius, and discussing his faith with him, Valentinus (the Latin version of his name) was discussing the validity of Jesus. The judge put Valentinus to the test and brought to him the judge's adopted blind daughter. If Valentinus succeeded in restoring the girl's sight, Asterius would do whatever he asked. Valentinus, praying to God, laid his hands on her eyes and the child's vision was restored.[24] Immediately humbled, the judge asked Valentinus what he should do. Valentinus replied that all of the idols around the judge's house should be broken, and that the judge should fast for three days and then undergo the Christian sacrament of baptism. The judge obeyed and, as a result, freed all the Christian inmates under his authority. The judge, his family, and his forty-four member household (family members and servants) were baptized.[25] Valentinus was later arrested again for continuing to evangelize and was sent to the prefect of Rome, to the emperor Claudius Gothicus (Claudius II) himself. Claudius took a liking to him until Valentinus tried to convince Claudius to embrace Christianity, whereupon Claudius refused and condemned Valentinus to death, commanding that Valentinus either renounce his faith or he would be beaten with clubs and beheaded. Valentinus refused and Claudius' command was executed outside the Flaminian Gate February 14, 269.[26]
Saint Valentine is said to have ministered to the faithful amidst the persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire.[2]
An embellishment to this account states that before his execution, Saint Valentine wrote a note to Asterius's daughter signed "from your Valentine", which is said to have "inspired today's romantic missives".[27]
The Legenda Aurea of Jacobus de Voragine, compiled about 1260 and one of the most-read books of the High Middle Ages, gives sufficient details of the saints for each day of the liturgical year to inspire a homily on each occasion. The very brief vita of St Valentine states that he was executed for refusing to deny Christ by the order of the "Emperor Claudius"[28] in the year 269. Before his head was cut off, this Valentine restored sight and hearing to the daughter of his jailer. Jacobus makes a play with the etymology of "Valentine", "as containing valor".
A popularly ascribed hagiographical identity appears in the Nuremberg Chronicle (1493). Alongside a woodcut portrait of Valentine, the text states that he was a Roman priest martyred during the reign of Claudius Gothicus. He was arrested and imprisoned upon being caught marrying Christian couples and otherwise aiding Christians who were at the time being persecuted by Claudius in Rome. Helping Christians at this time was considered a crime. Claudius took a liking to this prisoner. However, when Valentinus tried to convert the Emperor, he was condemned to death. He was beaten with clubs and stones; when that failed to kill him, he was beheaded outside the Flaminian Gate. Various dates are given for the martyrdom or martyrdoms: 269, 270, or 273.[29]
There are many other legends behind Saint Valentine. One is that in the 3rd century AD[citation needed] it is said that Valentine, who was a priest, defied the order of the emperor Claudius and secretly performed Christian weddings for couples, allowing the husbands involved to escape conscription. The legend claims that soldiers were sparse at this time so this was a big inconvenience to the emperor.[30] The account mentions that in order "to remind these men of their vows and God’s love, Saint Valentine is said to have cut hearts from parchment", giving them to these soldiers and persecuted Christians, a possible origin of the widespread use of hearts on St. Valentine's Day.[31]
Another legend is that Valentine refused to sacrifice to pagan gods. Being imprisoned for this, Valentine gave his testimony in prison and through his prayers healed the jailer's daughter who was suffering from blindness. On the day of his execution, he left her a note that was signed, "Your Valentine".[27]
I honestly believe it is better to honor God with everything we have, including Christmas, Easter and Valentines day, which people say are "pagan" holidays. I'm not really saying it's okay worship God in pagan ways. It can be pagan if it involves worshiping the materialistic world...unless we do them for God alone "in spirit and in truth" and for benefiting people (both small and great and rich and poor) and forgiving and forsaking sins.
Truly digg Ur content man but I have to disagree with u here. I don't posses half the intellect u are blessed with Mike but with the little common sense I have I've come to understand that most sacred days that emanates from the Roman Catholic church has a VERY HIGH likelihood of being pagan.
That being said, there's a guy claiming the Genesis account of the fall of man in eden was a concept stolen from the Vedic.
It was not. There is no eden story in Vedic texts. Humans love to highlight patterns and often times they love it so much they just make one up. We also find stories that are connected to other things more likely than an origin story that is random and lacks connections. So people like to genesis must originally come from paganism or holidays must have as well because it makes the story more interesting. Instead go on facts and not assuming patterns
Offtopic question: What of non-believers, how will they be treated in hell?
IP discusses his view on this at length in another video on his channel, but the names escapes me
I'm disappointed to know this is a controversy, but I don't know why I'm surprised. Edit: this comment section is giving me a headache...
Yeah, legalists do that.
Well the hearts and candy have nothing to do with God and he asks to be worshipped one way. When the Israelites crossed over the Jordan out of Egypt he said to destroy the cannanites the amorites the Hittites ect and destroy their groves their altars and their graven images. To do away utterly. God didn't say oh adopt their holidays and festivities and do it in my name or whoever "st. Valentine" he said to stay away from the ways of the the heathen and teach them and provoke them to jealousy for your Messiah. You can't just appropriate things and call it okay in God's eyes. That's just it what You think is right in your own eyes.
Good Explanation.......
Halloween? Really? That's not originated from paganism?!
From what I researched, no
@@InspiringPhilosophy wow I'm REALLY surprised, didn't the Catholic church initiate All Saints Day in order to counter All Hallows Eve? I'm so confused, I thought this was like solid common TRUE knowledge.
@@InspiringPhilosophy do you have a video on Halloween?
@@marydetray6776 Halloween is Old English and quite literally means All Hallows Eve or you could say it in a more common way as The day before All Saints Day. All Saints Day was not instituted to counter the day that comes before it and is named after the day that is supposed to counter it before its existence. Just as there is a Christmas Eve (a day before Christmas), All Saints Day has an eve (the day before All Saints Day).
Yes, it is on my channel
Rabbits 🐇 don’t lay eggs 🥚 Period
Just as Santa 🎅 is no UPS.
So much for your opinion of what Paganism
Is. Zip-it Buddy! 😆
If it’s not in the Bible then it’s not to be celebrated anyway
Also....>>> Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.(The Holy /pure love and Caring and Sharing of self>>>) than k You >>>for good teaching about valentines day
Yeah that’s great but did you know Fourth of July is a pagan holiday ?
LOL!
I never cared if it was Pagan or not I just don't like how fake and crass it is. I chose to show love for my wife as often as possible through out the year. More often when she 's mad at me of course, I'm not stupid. HAHAHA! Great video once again IP, thank you.
To open with various Christian holidays and stating they don't trace back to paganism tells me I don't need to watch anymore. I've watched many of your videos and several of them place a large ? immediately... your obtuse vision takes all credibility away.
poisoning the well...
Your comment shows that you are willing to remain in ignorance rather than the truth. This is a rejection of Jesus who is the truth.
I’m not gonna call it evil but If it’s not biblical ain’t no telling where it comes from ....and there’s no in between either...
you are not following 1% of the Bible your comedian...
Roman explain yourself
I dont believe in traditions made by man. But by holidays and celebration set by God as what is said in the Bible.
The Bible was canonized by man long after the Holidays were established. Are you willing to question the men who chose what was in the Bible?
Jesus celebrated a holiday invented by man. He honored Hanukkah, which was invented by the Jews to commemorate their victory over Antiochus.
What about PACHAMAMA?
@Shameless Papist very true and this and others should leave no doubt that catholicism is a pagan religion ,which concieves an idea from the pits of hell and sneaks it gradually unto christianity claiming it was an old saint.
That's how christmas and Easter (pagan) were inserted into christian faith.
@Shameless Papist " I know what you mean and feel because i was a catholic and almost venerated catholicism,but i discovered from year 300 ad upto 2014 the vatican has been introducing pagan dogmas ,one after another, and validating them into worship procedures. Start from introduction of the inverted cross sign at the beginning of prayer,introduction of Mary worship and all that follow Mary doctrines till ascension. The list is long and by 2014 the pope made it official to substitute the names of ABBA FATHER ELOHIM YHWH with titles GOD and LORD which are pagan and used by all religions referring to different gods.
You may proof your point and let me know how uneducated my view is that,PACHAMAMA was being sneaked into a church already filled with idolatry.
Shalom.
@Shameless Papist Dude. NOBODY recognizes the inverted cross as anything if spiritual recognition or veneration. The Catholic Church rulership is historically and currently anti-God, so the use of the inverted cross is an obvious piece in its mission and identity as Satan's confusion of the faithful.
@@justinamusyoka4986 >,but i discovered from year 300 ad upto 2014 the vatican has been introducing pagan dogmas
no, you didn't discover shit. you discovered the protestant fables that IP is trying to refute. The Catholic religion is the religion of the apostles, end of the story.
TBH, it doesn't actually matter if Valentine's is pagan. It's not, but it's kinda silly for them to even try to attack us over something people already think is just a hallmark holiday.
BASED
its a holiday for the ungodly (i.e pagans)
It is literally a holiday honoring a Christian murdered by pagans.... 🤦🏻♂️
@@InspiringPhilosophy Not anymore. Besides were not to honour man. The whole notion is unbiblical.
You really didn’t think this one through, did you? We are directly commanded by God to honor men, namely our father and mother. Does not the Bible say to honor your father and mother? So yes, we can and should honor men.
Leviticus 19:32 says to honor the elderly. St Valentines is our elder, so we should honor him.
InspiringPhilosophy big difference in what he is talking about. Honoring means to respect and obey. Another form of love and at its extreme can become a form worship. Pagans set days, months, statue’s etc; so they could be remembered and worshipped right after God says that man and the memory of man leaves this earth to be remembered no more. Prideful man wants to be remembered and to have their legacy worshipped long when they are dead. Prideful people who raises man on a pedestal will tell you to “honor” a person and that’s another name for worship in the mouths of pagans. Jesus showed me this and it’s very clear. People will tell you to honor a flag, honor an ideology, honor the uniform, honor a dead man, honor those who serve in the military....I could keep going but they won’t tell you to honor God. You are told by God to respect and show no favoritism to no man anyway but to raise a man up because of what they did is idolatry disguised as honor. It’s no different then the idolatry of people who look to “church fathers”, pastors, and past commentators, and even Paul instead of being taught by the anointing of the Holy Spirit. They worship the man for what they do and give no praise to Jesus all in the name of “honoring” man and that is because they look for praises of man more than the praises of God. Jesus dealt with this while He was here on earth. You know context is important. Honor can also mean worship which is what the last guy is talking about.
Don’t use scriptures to validate what God’s definition of honor is and compare it to what man’s perverted definition is. You can honor man by showing appreciation but not honor them ABOVE God which many do. That’s the main reason for why the Israelites couldn’t see God standing before them. They worshipped man. I highly doubt a follower of Christ wants ANY attention on them from anyone else because they know all attention goes to Jesus alone. Respect and honoring the messenger of God will direct you to honoring God not the man. Satan wants people to remain in the past and focus on getting people to remain lukewarm and worship the dead by saying they are being honored. We are to honor the elderly but this is in reference to honoring the elderly that are ALIVE physically on earth and not dead. We can even respectful tend to their handling of their dead body in the grave but to constantly bring that person back to life year after year is close to worship. Saying otherwise is no different than people who “honor” their ancestors which again is ancestor worship. They are DEAD, physically speaking. You don’t honor the dead because the dead are not conscious of anything. When you honor God then the things taught to you by your elders who spoke on behalf of God, would be honored by default. They are no special then anyone else God uses. The elder may have spent a lot more time on earth and learned a lot from God but without God they are people just like you and I. Honoring someone is a command to obey and to love and respect not a command to show favoritism and to deify. It’s how mankind has perverted the definition of love but calling lust love and using scriptures to define their perverted definition.
Plus, Why do you think people get passionate about their holidays and statues of certain “hero’s” going down? It’s because people are messing with their gods. Many self proclaimed Christians are deceiving themselves worshipping the messenger and not the one who sent the messenger.
Pentecost isn't pagan either
You could feel the eye-rolling from IP at the beginning 🤣
No lies detected
I never really understood the purpose of Valentines Day. It seems like a lesser made up holiday that is pushed every year to sell candy.
Also, it’s based on a Catholic Saint, which is ridiculous because it takes all of 3 seconds to see that if you are a born again, saved Christian you are a saint.
Baptism by water now saves you
Carver Harrison na Jesus and Jesus only
The only day I would say isn't ok is Halloween. It's literally a celebration of death and witches.
@BVale By dressing up as witches and decorating everywhere with the theme of death? The delusion is strong, here...
Just because you want to believe this is all good doesn't mean it is instead of taking someone's word for it find out for yourself do some real searching for oneself
but there is no evidence that Lupercalia was turned into the fest of Valentine's day though.
@@albertohernandez8721 The Romans' celebrations were violent
From Feb. 13 to 15, the Romans celebrated the feast of Lupercalia. The men sacrificed a goat and a dog, then whipped women with the hides of the animals they had just slain.
The Roman romantics "were drunk. They were naked," Noel Lenski, now a religious studies professor at Yale University, told NPR in 2011. Young women would line up for the men to hit them, Lenski said. They believed this would make them fertile.
The brutal fete included a matchmaking lottery in which young men drew the names of women from a jar. The couple would then be, um, coupled up for the duration of the festival - or longer, if the match was right.
The ancient Romans may also be responsible for the name of our modern day of love. Emperor Claudius II executed two men - both named Valentine - on Feb. 14 of different years in the third century. Their martyrdom was honored by the Catholic Church with the celebration of St. Valentine's Day.
And this sounds like a wonderful holiday to celebrate okay
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@@belindaturner3899 Duncan MacRae, an assistant professor of classics at the University of California, Berkeley, says there is no evidence showing that lotteries were part of Lupercalia, nor any kind of pairing off among young men and women. “There’s just nothing to draw lots for,” he says. He sees the theory as the product of the Enlightenment, an era in which people wanted to provide rational explanations for customs that seemed irrational. “In early modern Europe there was an idea that you would randomize your Valentine, that you left it up to a system of chance,” MacRae says. “But none of that has ancient backing.” In his book America’s Favorite Holidays: Candid Histories, Bruce David Forbes echoes the same opinion regarding matchmaking during Lupercalia. “Although there probably was wild partying, there is no reliable evidence that it involved a ritualized time when men drew the names of women, or that it involved the pairing of lovers,” he writes. Without this ritual at the Roman festival, there appears to be little correlation between the Lupercalia and Valentine’s Day. Nor is there conclusive evidence that the date of Lupercalia influenced Pope Gelasius I when, in the 5th century, he made February 14 into a day that would honor the Christian martyr Saint Valentine. Professor Roland Kany, holder of the Chair of Ancient Church History and Patrologia at Ludwig-Maximilians-University Munich’s Faculty of Theology says "This story about Pope Gelasius (492-496) has gone viral on the Internet but is based on a fallacy from the eighteenth century. At the time, some scholars believed that lovers’ Valentine’s Day customs could be attributed to a prohibition by Gelasius of the pre-Christian and at times almost carnival-like ‘Lupercalia’ festival that had proved hard to eradicate and was celebrated on 15 February. Their view was that Gelasius introduced Valentine’s Day on the preceding day as a Christian substitute. This, they claimed, accounted for why certain elements of Lupercalian fertility rituals had found their way into Valentine’s Day celebrations. There is indeed a manuscript in which Gelasius opposes Lupercalia, but there is no evidence that he introduced Valentine’s Day or was the first to put it on 14 February. Above all, there is not the slightest trace of love rituals on Valentine’s Day from ancient times to the middle of the fourteenth century. Historically speaking, this day therefore has nothing whatsoever to do with Lupercalia. Nor does the Christian day of remembrance have any link to such customs. On the contrary, its substance is that Valentine is very briefly mentioned at several points in the service and that the legend of his martyrdom is occasionally recounted."
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Not trying to sound like an A-hole, but why was it made? I read that it was to remember the miracle of St. Valentine. Is that true and if not then what was the original purpose?
1:30
Michael, please tell me...
what is the point in defending Valentine's Day?
Why would you do that?
I mean, I am not insulting I am seriously asking, why did you make this video?
Knowing the history of things is interesting, it helps remove false information and conspiracy theories in the church, and reminds Christians to stop being so legalistic and worry about offending God. The anti-holiday crowd loves to assume holidays offend God which is legalistic nonsense
@@InspiringPhilosophy Thanks for clearing that up!
Sometimes they sound like Mythicists:)
@@InspiringPhilosophy don't lie. You did the video because you are such a romantic.
@@InspiringPhilosophy So turning away from holidays with hints of worldliness and paganism, that has NOTHING to do with God and his word, is legalistic? Jeez...
@BVale IF you claim to be mt brother or sister in Christ, yes, i expect you to follow the scriptures. Simple as that. Not pick and choose what to follow based on your own subjective beliefs.
Just because valentines day is based on an aspect of love does not mean it equates to what the relationship between Church and Christ is, which is based on OBEDIENCE.
Calling Valentine's Day pagan is an excuse used by lonely people for not celebrating it. What I'm trying to say is that Valentine's Day is pagan.
Almost all holidays recognized as cristian are just holidays the catholics had appropriated for themselves, instead of celebrating holidays and arguing over there roots how about you people celebrate some actual biblical holidays!!!
Hanukkah, festival of lights is a great holiday with no pagan routes and the people make amazing food
Passover, why don't Christians celebrate this?!? It is in the bible gods people made these based on things that happened in it.
Im not ranting or "triggered" but im stating facts AND giving solutions to some of these arguments by bringing alternatives that are undeniably cristian in origin so please start bringing more attention to these holidays
Um, why do we have to celebrate them? Is it a sin not too?
Maybe we can make every other year PAGAN!! Sheesh!
Do anyone of you any you know a hot or tittle about us pagans because the accuser liars and the most anti pagan there can be.
Beautifully said 👍💕💕
5:19 You know, fertility and love aren't the same thing today either.
At the end of the day, what matters isn't what it used to mean, but what it means in today's culture, and these days Valentine's Day is about one of two things:
impressing people and "getting laid." Love rarely has anything to do with it, apart from the euphemism "making love," which in this context has about as much to do with real love as "free love" did back in the 60s and 70s.
So a "fertility festival" is what it is, not just what it was, what it is!
If you have a store or a business, then it's all about Mammon anyway, so it's just as pagan as Black Friday, even if the latter is a modern invention.
Nothing wrong with going on a date
Outstanding work!
Then why do Jehovah’s Witness consider all holidays pagan
Maybe because they are a cult.
Watchtower considers many things pagan to keep their followers in fear always. They use these opportunities to justify their persecution theories and set themselves apart from the rest of the world. Funny though they actually imitate the holidays but not on the day. My family who are witnesses have “family dinner” on Friday after Thanksgiving much like people now call it Friendsgiving. They have consume parties where kids dress up like Halloween but give gifts like a birthday party. They have huge anniversary celebrations and wedding parties and baby showers and bridal showers. They have a “memorial” for the death of Jesus which is very pagan in ritual where they pass the communion element s but instead of partaking they deny them. No celebration of the resurrection. They believe Jesus is Michael the Arch angel and do not understand the trinity of God. So basically they follow the Watchtower and should not be considered a Christian religion.
I don't know what Pagan even is in there satanists by the way their satanic cults we can't say anything except criticize themselves
You shouldn't refer to Truth Unedited as mere a "conspiracy theorist," he does a lot for work to help awaken others about the Word of God.
Amen, he is not doing this video Spirit led
I don’t think he is at all, his channel is riddled with false information, fear-mongering, and wack job conspiracies. That is not God’s work.
When I watched his videos at the start I thought he was against Christianity he certainly believes in many false things
@@InspiringPhilosophy Whether you're right and he's wrong, or he's right and you're wrong, or both of you're both wrong, as followers of Christ, we shouldn't partake in things that don't firstly involve the worship of Christ like these pointless "holidays."
@@InspiringPhilosophy What whack job conspiracies?
I dunno.. you're also so sure about the Trinity (obviously false) and confident about what some scholars say about "the Nephilem" not being from supernatural union... I would just err on the side of caution. Holidays are not for me. Whatever is "too popular" in the world is for a reason...
Really sounds like you are poisoning the well.
@@InspiringPhilosophy
Lol! Maybe? Or recognizing a pattern? When you are very confident you could still be wrong..
Or I could just be biased? I always believed the holidays were pagan. I haven't done deep research in it. I have deeply researched the Trinity.. and I've fairly researched the Nephilem. Its definitely a supernatural offspring (and in my confidence, I could be wrong.)
E.E. W you know he has a video that proves the trinity is not pagan
@@swazilandandbotswana8856
Well it argues for the "truth" of the Trinity. I don't know if its "pagan" but the Trinity definitely isn't biblical. It's a twisted version of the text
E.E. W did you watch this video or a different one th-cam.com/video/xAcDV270D_0/w-d-xo.html
I was born in Valentine’s day.
Eh no one cares anyway.
3:53 Sargon of Akkad!
thank you 👍
Don’t worship any god or goddess for the TMH Yahuah is the 1 research my people
Yahweh is a false. Do indeed Worship any The Real Gods and Goddesses my people for They did make us.
And you are lost and need True Many Gods in your life not anti pagan lies and worse. but Gods Given Holy Truth at that.
I enjoy the folkish music in the background. It adds some nice ambiance sounds.
In Revelation, Dan is no longer a tribe of Israel. The tribe of Dan named everything after Dan. Celebtrating people over God is pagan. Marriage day would not be pagan. Praying to anyone other than the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit is pagan. Praying to men is pagan. Yes, you can have fun. Names matter. I've seen churches named after people who paid for them. God's gift of marriage day would be fine no matter the date.
At least there aren't people saying that birthdays are pagan. Oh wait...
Then go preach from scriptures To everyone that birthdays aren’t bad but instead good.
@@tan1591 why would I do that
Bru Master you believe birthdays are good?
@@tan1591 I don't think there's anything wrong with them.
Bru Master so you don’t think it’s wrong to mimic and participate with the things of the world?
So I guess I’m one of those pesky conspiracy theorist? Ouch lol. If it’s not in the Bible, then it will need justification such as videos like this. If it needs justification, question it. I pray you all find the truth and Messiah. Because it’s the truth it makes men free.
The 14 books werent removed from the bible either
I guess everything’s pagan to a paranoid Christian, doubter, unbeliever, skeptic etc. These videos sure help to realize the truth. God Bless!
You are correct about Ba’al not being Nimrod. Ba’al does correspond to Zeus and Kronos = Saturn = Moloch, the father of Zeus.
The wikipedia article says Ba'al corresponds to Zues because he's said to rule storms and lightning. Also I would skeptical about claiming Saturn and Kronos are the same as Moloch. The Romans often called forign gods by the Roman god's names but that does not mean they are straight up the same, and the word Ba'al is a title meaning lord, and was often applied to many different gods.
Baal is comparable to Zeus but that's it not The Titan God Kronos or Saturnus.
And Molek is a false-god like your false god Yahweh and Molek unlike Baal likes child sacrifice.
@@christophersnedeker2065Baal is a Proper name and later used as title for people and stuff in honor and praise of Baal The God. Lord Baal would bless them and later the Hebrews with their Adam eve and Moses and Abraham nimrod terah sarah and esau and Jacob and false god Yahweh took the baal title for themselves and blasphemes Lord Baal to your and their ends.
@@christophersnedeker2065Baal is a proper name too and later used as title during the biblical era of the he rew's afterward with Genesis and Samuel onward.
Nice comment but you did not show any proof that it is biblical to celebrate valentine. Though you pointed out that the celebration of valentine falls on pagan celebration, you did not still mention the celebration of christian on that particular period
What's wrong with going on a date?
Truthsurge videos proves.......the Gospel of Mark...Jesua is Odysseud.
Debunking Excatating the empty tomb 1-10 is IMPOSIBLE!!
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So valentine's day is christian? This video didnt explain much nor directly refute what truth says. I'm open to all possibilities, I'm not trying to be competitive.
A true Christian would know that if it's not something god ordered for early jews and Christians to commemorate then we shouldn't do it , the Bible specifically tells us what we should commemorate, then by default valentines day is a pagan holiday
Can you prove him wrong?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Ask yourself why celebrate it
@@gustheartist8853 Why not?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Ask yourself who invented it and why why is there a Cupid did you know Cupid Had sex with his mother there’s even statues of them
@@lancethefilmguy9392 It’s funny how you people like to celebrate what the government feeds you because the government knows what’s behind this, why is it so hard to understand when there’s so much evidence against it
Wait, did you say the month June was named after the Goddess Juno? PAGAN!
All true and Godly christians should stop existing for the month of June
Or christians shld rename June when referring to the month😂
In my opinion, any holiday God didn't create is ungodly. Jesus only celebrated Jewish holidays like Passover etc. So why do Christians celebrate so many made up holidays? Then argue over whether or not its Pagan... Even if they're not Pagan are still not of God... It makes no sense to me.
Can you please tell me where to find this information in the Bible? Book, chapter and verse, please? I'm not familiar with it but am always interested in learning. Thank you.
@BVale I'm not sure if your comment was literal or sarcastic but to answer your question, I don't celebrate those holidays in the traditional fashion nor do I see the point in celebrating my birthday; I think its kinda self centered. The only birth worth celebrating is Jesus, cuz I'm nobody.
@BVale Thanks, I appreciate the clarification. I do enjoy spending time with my kids and I do rest on the Sabbath. Perhaps even just enjoying a quiet day of rest is indeed equivalent to a celebration; just not according to tradition.
Surely IP it's time for you to ask to be received into the Catholic Church. When the authority of the Church was questioned, all forms of idiocy were let loose. Is it a coincidence that the Protestant movement started on October 31st? The printing press encouraged this stuff, and the internet has not made things any better. Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
You're right and wrong on this yes but also the fact that idiocy has run about yes but The fray fact you have control over people was also wrong to you should balance it out there should be a thorki but they're also shouldn't be authority they should be able to think for themselves.
@@charliejackson5492 Sit down and think about this a bit longer.
@@gussetma1945 ok I have long long ago and I still say what I say.
@@charliejackson5492 I'm not sure what you were saying, but if did understand it, I suspect I would regard it as rubbish.
@@gussetma1945 what's rubbish you started this I just wanna finish your nonsense.
This youtube channel is just for people who don’t want to let go of they’re wordly traditions, views in many subjects including the bible like the sethite view and want comfort/approval with someone telling them it’s ok to keep doing these things. Someone telling you its ok to celebrate a holiday that has NOTHING to do with the BEGOTTEN SON. Yet it involves a god of love. “Conspiracy people this and that” we get it you are trying to fit into the world. Yet the bible talks about the world be owned by the wicked... i guess its a conspiracy book. Prayers to all and the content maker! life is short and random so we should help all to get into the kingdom of THE MOST HIGH. The WORD of our HEAVENLY FATHER does talk about wolves in sheeps clothing. Beware and may our HEAVENLY FATHER be With all.
But isn't the intent more important than anything? We have chosen a day to show appreciation for someone we love. What about that is pagan?
Romans 14:5-6 - One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
Nathaniel J Franco how am i taking his name in vain? Am i calling my self Above all? Is HE not above all? Im not being honest or honoring because of my username? Shows you were trying to use anything to use against me. Kind of ironic to put that verse and yet you completely don’t follow instructions with your graven images and idolatry in your profile.
Prayers brother we’re all on our own journey and im sure all who are genuine and LOVE our creator are just trying to get to the TRUTH and tell the rest.
Avery Gibson if the WORD tells you to not be of the world im pretty sure it means what every non believer and lukewarms are doing. There is NOTHING about our savior in that day. Plus we are supposed to Love every day... Not be extra on one occasion that the world tells you too.
Judah Matthews
Colossians 2:8
It’s pagan, Catholic Holidays are not established by God or in the Bible at all. God details His Holy Days in Leviticus 23 and Deuteronomy 16. Christ Mass, Easter and Halloween are all wicked. Is Halloween not Samhain and Christ Mass not Saturnalia. Heathen traditions are not to be incorporated into following Scripture. It says so plain as day. Deuteronomy 12:32 “Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it or take away from it.
Deuteronomy 12:31 You shall not Worship the LORD your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their Gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in fire to their gods.
Harmless Holy days? Who set them apart? If not God in Scripture then it is a made up heathen day or a way they worship their gods, regardless it isn’t from the God of the Bible who many claim to follow yet His Holy Days are absent in their lives so how are they following Him? Rome is Mystery Babylon, even their January 1st New Year is pagan. Follow them and you follow the Antichrist and are in the Apostasy of LAWLESSNESS as detailed in 2 Thessalonians 2. You want to follow YAH? Keep His commandments, anything else is a lie.
The Lawless One of 2 Thessalonians 2 is the one who thinks to change TIMES and LAW in Daniel 7, the Little Horn.
@@spitflamez do you have a source?
All this can be easily Googled
You need to really do a video on what holiness actually means. A LOT of Christian's have the wrong idea that you can somehow "lose holiness" by not living a certain way. The truth is that a Christian is already holy by being in the body of Christ and they can't earn it through good works or living a certain way.
PREACH IT!! I would also appreciate a video on this!