Canon C200 Review - 6 MONTHS LATER!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- After using the Canon C200 for over 6 months, this is my review on what I believe is one of the best Cinema Cameras you can buy in today's competitive market. There are so many great features like dual pixel autofocus, canon RAW light but there's also some flaws that might turn a few people off.
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#canonc200 #cinemacamera #canoncamera
I love this camera and i've never used it
YCImaging haaaa same
Kkkkk same here
thats why you love it... ahahah
You are in the Vid 😄of course you love it 😝
Well now you do YC 😉
That blown out video recovery just blew my mind 🤯 wow! That raw video makes it all worth it!
why should the log recording be artificially limited? Other cams give you those stops without raw. (using 10bit video) I think it's a marketing thing.
If you have the storage space.
@@simonrabeder1599 I don't think any non raw camera could pull back from that image. Pretty sure you've misread that somewhere
Yep. I'm getting it.
😂
No this time I was expecting him to be here 😂
Really a great analysis, and great job in the video. I am a life long Canon user, and I own a Canon C300 II, 5D mark IV..and all the L series lenses. Having said that, I bought the Panasonic Eva1. I will tell you right up front, the Canon C200 is a lot simpler to use, and the auto focus alone is head and shoulders above EVA1. In every other category, the Eva1 kicks the C200's butt!!! It's not acceptable to pay the same price and not future proof your camera. Great point about Raw recording and outputting in 4:2:2, but two down side is massive storage requirement, very tedious post production process vs EVA1..and by the way, side by side, even the canon raw falls apart next to the EVA1 image. It really breaks my heart to say this. I have been a life long Canon guy, but to me ...Canon is taking us for granted, and short changing it's users for their own profit. That's not acceptable to a loyal long time customer like me. You also didn't mention the horrible mp4 format recording....but aren't we going backwards? I own an inferno shogun ...and I use that with Canon and Panasonic....and Panasonic kills Canon raw image even using the external recorder. Now if you are doing run and gun, you tube and docs only, the C200 is great. Just my two cents. You really did a great job with your video. Earned my follow :)
Hey!
I know, your comments is 7 months old, but I'm looking into the C200, FS5 ii and EVA-1.
What would you reccomend, and why?
Should be studying for an exam in 10 minutes but here I am watching a review for a camera I will never be able to afford. 😂
Jeremy Judkins financing broooo lol
How did the exam go?
Pass your exams and you may be able to find a job that will let you afford this.
@@mak_9000 he failed for sure
You can afford it now
Coming from Ursa mini pro, using this camera is so sweet!!! Perfect, every thing is in the right place. Most of the time the UMP log is quite inconsistent (shifting colors) while I like the density of C200. And is incredible how good is 420 8bit XF-AVC. far better of many 422 10 bit cameras!!
I love my c200b. It’s perfect for
What I do. TH-cam and low budget client work the 4K 8bit 420 is more than enough. And when I’m doing larger budget stuff the Raw is incredible. People complain about no middle 10bit codec. But it’s perfect for what I do.
what do you use for a monitor? Atomos? can you still do auto focus/face tracking while using an external screen?
I have had this camera for 6 weeks it's brilliant. Sold my FS7 straight away. If you need higher bit depth use raw its so easy. Great Video
I use C200 for wide variety of jobs, from weddings in 1080p, to commercial jobs in RAW, it is IMO the best camera on the market, including Arri. The colors are very very close to Arri, but everything else is better (much faster) to work with.
The Dual Pixel AF basically killed every other cinema camera out there for many users. Sports films, docu, run n gun, one man team. C200 is the way to go. Even Sony's AF is no match.
About as good as it can get. Well, maybe it could be a smart AF with facial recognition build-in? But that probably wishful thinking.
Let me just say, sir, that this has been one of the best reviews of anything that I have looked up on YT. I found this to be to the point, not nit-pickey, not wandering down rabbit holes, and without gimmicks or overbearing personalities. For that I say, thank you. I wish more reviews could be like this one.
Thank you. Have been debating for years, literally years, on pulling the trigger on a C100/200/300. Ahhh! I think I’m going to do it!
Same! For me it's out of the c100 mark ii or c200.
Hey Steve I am going to purchase the c200 for my Gospel Pop Music songwriting videos and INDIE movies to submit to film festivals!
I've Filmed with Reds, Sony's, Lumix, Canons and I got to use c200 for 5mins when it came out. C200 in my opinion is the best all rounder for loads of small reasons.
Canon FTW 🙌🔥🎥 Beautiful review Armando!! And that T-shirt is on point 👌
I'm currently applying for the Canon business financing option and really thinking about getting the C200. Thanks for the insight!
This is the camera to get for video from Canon, why people get the 1DX Mark ii which is basically the same overall price as the C200 for video is beyond me.
If you shoot pictures the 1DX makes sense because it gives you great video and also one of the most amazing cameras for photography. The 1DX is like the best of both worlds,, but if you're only going to use it for video then yes it makes no sense getting the 1DX because the C200 is 10x better for video.
Lover Of Tech I had to make that decision and I chose the 1dx mark ii over the c200 coming from a 5d mark iii. Just didn’t want to not be able to take photos
CoveringFish that’s absolutely fair if photos are something that you’re gonna take, that’s the benefit of a hybrid shooter. I’m more against the ones using it just for video and no photos are all, makes no sense
Hello everyone here can you explain more why the canon c200 is better than 1 dx mkii I have canon 1dx mkii and I have the best quality that I’ve ever seen, I don’t really use it for photos because I use my canon 5d mk3 and my Sony a7r3 mainly for my photography,
I’m just saying if the c200 only does 2k raw why and how is that so much better than 4K and my hacked cinestyle, and clog at 4K
Please don’t bash me just want your input tks
Great review Armando. I bought the first C200 sold in Australia and I love it. It is super easy to use run and gun. Just switch it on. DPAF is sooo good. Even the 8 bit looks better than Sony 10 bit. Low light rocks. I work in the humanitarian space and this camera is perfect for hostile and complex environments. I team it with my Canon XC10 which is also great, especially for sensitive areas where I just want to look like a normal aid worker. lol.
Thanks again.
Great review Armando! You made me want to instantly buy this camera... I have been using Canon since about 20 years, starting with XM-1 (I used it more than 10 years and then gave it away to a young cameraman in Madagascar who is still using it!), followed by the XM-2 (problems with the electronics right from the start), then my absolute favorite XH-A1S which I am missing so much. I had to buy a new camera, because the new laptops don't have a IEEE1394 connection anymore and tape-based operation is not ideal in the hot and humid climate of tropical countries where I live. I bought the XA-30 which I consider a big mistake - I never know what I am doing, no indication, and everything hidden in the menu! I am looking for a camera which has all manual controls and 3 continuously variable adjustment rings for zoom, iris and focus like my XH-A1S - but with state-of-the-art 4K quality... It seems this is the C2000 - now I have to find the money (or wait until someone wants to sell his used model...).
I know after my upgrade from the A6300 to the A73 that the Canon C200 will be my first and pretty much only proper video only camera for TH-cam and weddings. Ashame it doesn't have the ability to shoot ProRes RAW and also you can't use the HDMI and SDI out at the same time. Nonetheless this is a much better camera for video than the 1DX ii which for the live of me make no sense for video with the awesome C200. great video review man💯
Lover Of Tech I just got this camera, I’m never looking back. No regrets whatsoever. 12bit 4K 🤤
great review Armando. Just one question: what about the dynamic range of this camera? Is it any better than that of the 1DX2?
Awesome video watched full 20 mins without realising video is going to over so much immersive . Lighting is also awesome.
I work with the C200 for about a year now and 100% agree with your conclusion
Hey Armando, that shot at 10:53 that you performed the highlight recovery on, what were your shooting and post process settings to regain those highlights?
I recently bought a C200 and am not getting the same result on similar test shots I’ve done.
Thank you for your video Armando! I got my C200 a little after you and I agree it is the best camera to own for most of us! It is a dream to own and operate, thank you Canon!
We use this camera at work for run and gun shoots and documentary storytelling. We recently purchased a monitor hood that attaches via velcro. It was a good buy for outside shots.
People, just shoot 12bit Raw 4K! Is a wet dream. This camera is so pleasant to use, the ergonomics are just perfect for any situation 🎥 I love ❤️ it
Owning the C200 since last October I have to agree with alot of what you said. Its one of the best cameras for my type of workflow and cannot recommend it enough to 1 man bands like myself. I shot my latest short film 95% of the time on it and will be posting it very soon.
Great review. Thanks. I've been eyeing the C200 for a few months now, and I feel like I might just make it happen.
Scott McKenna it's on sale now too
Your videos are allways great Armando!!!
Love from Greece 👋👋👋
Excellent review, Armando! I think this could be an okay upgrade to my Panasonic G7!
I had used this on a couple very good short films, the 10-bit 422 can be done..., but it is not to destroy the c300 MK2 , it is exactly because You or a thousand guys out there will not be paying for it..... ! Bigger, noisier, more expensive after they had added it on ! But this video of yours is amazing good and I enjoyed and I had forwarded it to a hundred guys !!!! Keep it up !!!!
Thank you!
I must say. Listening to your Audio is a delight. No matter where your face looks. The Audio is perfect. Nice Job. Little but important thing most TH-camrs don't give a shit about. 👍🏻
Great video Armando. But... wow, that thumbnail looked like a Film Riot thumbnail! haha
First of all I am not a video guy and have almost zero knowledge about it, your review is very complete and quite easy to understand I enjoy watching it. I've watched lot of review on video cameras, multi function DSLR/Mirrorless and pure video cameras, most of them are not built like a regular video camera, they are more like a still camera, user has to install add on kits to make it handle like a regular video camera and that cost lot of money, only the Canon like yours built and handle like a regular video camera. I don't know the cost of the units, but if I were to shoot video in regular basis I would consider something like yours instead of those 'boxy' ones, and I believe high end video cameras like yours can handle stills equally well if it does take still.
One more thing, I don't know why, 99% of the review on video camera are shot with 'flat profile' (please excuse my ignorance on terms), the image is so flat and dull very boring, only your review shown the natural color, it is the norm these days to shoot like that ? and I agree with you that Canon produces natural skin tone, I am not a Canon fan but I've seen photos shoot with Canon film camera is just like that.
Awesome break down man, seems like this would be my dream camera!
Thank you so much! I Love this Review! You Transport so much positive Energy when you Talk about the positive things. My heart beats faster. I‘m gonna buy this Camera next month 😍
Optimus Films thanks! I think you'll really enjoy the camera. If you do plan to buy the camera, please feel free to use my affiliate link. It doesn't cost you more but helps support the channel. Once you get it and if you have any questions don't hesitate to contact me.
Armando Ferreira Thank you so much! 🙏🏼
So, what is your final statement about the Silicon Power 256 CFast Cards? Can i trust this low price?
Optimus Films I've had no issues but I'd recommend getting a SolidPod for RAW recording. It's been amazing in my workflow and I highly recommend it especially for longer recording.
Armando Ferreira I know. Maybe i should order this. I dont like the additional cable flattering around and the Pod with SSD mounted to the camera. ☹️I Love the small Size of the Cam 😄
Optimus Films I can agree with you there, I guess if you don't mind the added cost for convenience it's probably best to stick with Cfast cards.
Hey Armando what do you use for B Cam? That would match with the C200?
Mercuri Mike EOS R
We currently use C100s, and are considering upgrading to the C200. We don’t have a need to shoot in raw, or even 4K....so would the sensor on the C200 still give us enough improvement on the overall image quality to justify the upgrade? I guess I’m asking if has a significantly better sensor than the C100 has?
Great overview video by the way! Thanks
Brightness can be increased in the menu. It very bright actually, I shot in sunny days.
2k 10bit 422 thru sdi
4k 8bit 422 thru hdmi
Battery price is the hell.
Color science is nice, but not so cool like on the Dragon or Alexa.
I'm new to the channel but this has been the most informative video I've seen in a while.
Keep up the great work!
*Subscribed*
Rishabh Sahni thanks man!
Canon is the reason I love Blackmagic. Cannon holds back features so they can upscale your purchase. Blackmagic gives you everything they possibly can fit within their form factor. The C200 is a cool camera though.
great review! appreciate all the detail and your concise thoughts after half a year. I have a question regarding your talking head shot - it appears that the chair is what's in focus and your face is slight OOF - I could be wrong, but just wondering?
You are 100% right, I accidentally disabled AF and the last focus point was left by chair (thank goodness) I didn't realize this until I started editing and it wasn't that bad enough for me to want to reshoot it.
Also, are you color grading this in post? Your lighting and color have gotten so good, I'm really curious how you did it here.
Great video, Armando. Auto focus is an amazing thing and even more amazing is that “only face” feature I didn’t know!!! The only thing for me is that I have the R with an RF lens, and that uses EF lenses..., so I’d have to buy EF lenses and that’s a further expense ☹️. Waiting to September 24th to see the new cinema camera that will use RF lenses! Thanks
Great review! Love my 1DX II, but want this bad boy!
10:38 - Holy shit, that highlight recovery just fucked my face clean off. That is absolutely insane.
Hello, congratulations for the channel, it is a place of reference. I raise a question: if you could choose, for a TH-cam channel, to buy a video camera, which one would you choose between the Canon c 200 and the Canon XF705. Taking into account the image quality, functions, handling and similar prices. Thank you for your proposals.
Ugh...now I have to rethink everything. I was thinking the Panasonic EVA1.
Key features why I would consider this camera: Autofocus, internal RAW recording (I wish it was 4K...ugh), battery life, build quality, The EVA1's only real feature is that it records internally at 5.7K at 4K. Essentially, that is the ONLY reason why I like the EVA1.
Awesome video! I'm pretty new to cinema cameras and don't understand all the tech but this was super informative.
That lighting 👌💯
Killer video man! Couldn't help but notice that you were back focused the entire video though, too bad you didn't have the C200's amazing focus for this one haha. Keep up the great content though, truly inspirational.
Great review and I agree with 95% of what you stated. As far as using the monitor outside, we've been shooting a documentary on the ocean for the past almost year with the camera, the solution is so simple. Turn up the luma on the screen to +2 and add a Hoodman H400. Works a charm in nuclear daylight. The only drawback is the Hoodman slightly covers the right or left edge of the screen to occasionally your audio meter is covered but most of the time I am shooting b-roll so I set and forget audio levels with a safety channel so no big deal for me. You cna slide the Hoodman ovewr to reveal but then you are cropping a bit of the left hand side of the screen then. Not perfect but makes it workable for a lot of scenarios.
I agree, I shoot with the C300 MKII a lot also and I much prefer the C200 to the C300 MKII, it's smaller, lighter, easier to cradle, better monitor, hate the clamshell on the C300 MKII and the AV cables that snag on everything and get in the way. Wish that Canon would make a still photo L better, newer version of the 17-55 2.8 IS. I love the 18-80 T4.4 but it's expensive, have to have the Zacuto right hand cable, T4.4 is too slow for certain scenarios and I like 2.8 better and the balance when cradling makes it too front heavy. I would gladly pay $2,200.00 for a new 17-75 2.8 IS II STM L lens Canon, get it together. Servo is cool but not a huge requirement for run and gun documentary style shooting for me.
The lack of a 10-bit 4:2:2 codec is a none factor for me. The C200 is a RAW camera with proxy and MP4 added as an afterthought, which is fine for quickie, TH-cam video or long long interviews. But CRL is where it's at. If you need 10-bit 4:2:2, but a different camera, right?
Oh, yeah, and Canon PLEASE enable CRL in UHD, not just DCI. DCI is useless for most of us who aren't shooting narrative, it's just an extra step to get rid of the 17:9 black bars. I would REALLY prefer to shoot CRL in 3840 x 2160.
Big Little Films I'm using the SmallHD Hood and it's been great so far, but still the display is dim compared to my Sony A7III which is way brighter
Very nice. We learned a lot today. Thank you for sharing.
Best explanation and examples of editing RAW that I've seen thus far. Nice.
What program are you using at 10:16 to edit the RAW footage? Adobe Premiere Pro CC?
thanks for the video. in 2022 after the updates can the canon c200 shoot 10 bit raw ? i have seen in other article. please share your thoughts
I made the switch from the Sony Fs5 to the Canon C200. Best decision I have made.
Good review.
Canon DEFINITELY likes segmenting their products, but they also don't release products that have issues like overheating. No HDMI out is a joke just to segment and is stupid.
Very clear and informative video.
Man, am I glad that I ever subscribed to your channel!!!
Great content! Love your stuff dude!
12-Bit internal RAW recording, small form factor, and the sublime Autofocus are this camera's superpowers...and it has a power button (sadly, the other buttons are useless)
Great video, sir. Thanks!
unicorns.R.real 💯
This was a great review btw. Exactly the kind of info I was looking for to help with my purchase decision.
I watched a lot of pro/con videos on C200 and one thing that rarely gets discussed: the camera’s fan exhaust is located on operator side of the camera where a person’s ear is generally located when the camera is on a shoulder rig. The fan intake is on the opposite side where the grip is. Why didn’t Canon flip the fan so the intake is on the operator side? Or put the exhaust on the back side of the camera?
Hi Armando! Really appreciate all of your content on the C200. I've been considering buying one for months and am very close to pulling the trigger. I absolutely love how you've customized yours with the top handle and arm for the monitor. Wondering if you could post links to these pieces?
amando i love your back
groung set up
Man, you rock... I’m keeping following you. Congratulation from Rome, Italy. All the best
thank you..I need something i can use myself,not too much needed as accessories,and i like the storage options...
Well you mentioned the conflict between the cinema level cameras, but the biggest problem with Canon is their DSLRs also compete with and overlap their cinema line. That makes them less inclined to apply features that other manufactures aren't bothered by. That inherent conflict is what holds Canon back and why the lose sales to other manufactures. Sony has the same issue, but appear to do a much better job of balancing the two. Canon really needs to space their cameras a bit better.
As to the top handle, that goes back to the days of the camcorders, long before RED was invented. You also forgot to mention the negative of the ridiculously expensive CFast cards
I added the camera to my cart for my next purchase, I love your videos Armando
I bought one and I’m obsessed with it!
Very much appreciate the info and to see you took the same route with the top handle I think I would. What top plate are you using for this c200?
I want to have a separate camera for filming and not use this same camera for photos. I am defiantly buying this camera. Thank you Armando for this review.
i need a review on this from a filmmakers standpoint. Everyone who reviews the camera mentions documentaries and corporate work. what about film/narratives? any filmmakers have experience with this camera? whats your thoughts?
Great review Armando. I'm going out to buy one!
Hey bud, can you link us to the accessories you have on the C200? Cheese plate and arms and such?
Great video. Question… I’m thinking of buying the version that is the body only, but does that mean the autofocus will not be included? In this video I got the impression that autofocus was only available with the touchscreen monitor. Thinking about it further, I guess it would make sense that the auto focus would not be included because the monitor facilitates changing focus points, etc. I just want to confirm. Kind thanks.
one of the best vids, for a photographer, i wish my best for you
Thanks, I appreciate that.
what is the brand of swivel mount for the monitor?
10:38 isn't true. You could shoot exactly the same shot, in CLOG 3, 10 bit, and recover the exact same amount of highlight information if the initial iso and F stop are the same. Raw doesn't recover clipped highlights, and raw doesn't increased dynamic range vs 10 bit log. It's misleading only because the raw automatically shows as a normal image rather than a flat image first, so basically you can imagine the LUT is already showing up on the software end for the computer. There is no real gain from raw other than white balance and color info, which is meaningful, but not that relevant to many.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge 🙏
Thanks for sharing! Very informative. It's one year later after the date you posted this video. I'm seriously thinking to get a C200. Is C200 still a good choice for shooting gun and run documentary film?
Best C200 review yet mate..subbed and liked
Hi Armando. Great video and thanks for your work. I usually do run and gun shooting and use auto-focus. I am one man team :) My 2 lenses are Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and sigma 24 - 70mm 2.8. I use shotgun mic attached to camera but very often I pick up auto-focus noise from lenses. Do you have any experience with this or maybe advice for very quiet lens?
What type of camera bag is shown at 0:53? It looks nice for this type of equipment.
Is there an electronic level display in C200 like the most DSLR do? Can’t find it in the menu...
Great video Armando! Tired of hearing people complain about mirrorless and dslr short comings, just buy a real video camera like this one!
Very helpful, thanks for the video and info.
What top handle/top plate do yo use?
Wonderful. What does it take to shoot an hour straight video with that wonderful camera? Thanks.
Fabulous and informative video!
SNAZZY is buying one. Lol.
You're not wrong.
LCD Brightness... you can up the brightness by 2 levels (It's the Luminance setting) and you will be able to see the screen just fine outside.
Zarick Berger I've done that still not bright compared to many other camera's.
Stange, on mine it's easily one of the brightest Video-Camera LCD screens I ever tried and I get to use many different cameras at work. It feels just as bright as my SmallHD702 with it's very useful 1000 nits.
Great video - I've been using - with pleasure - the C100 so ready to upgrade. Could I check - what is the camera rig you are using?
WOW wow WOW soooo much precious content !! Super important information for the. People upping their game !!! THANK YOU !!
Fabulous video, you are a rock solid reviewer!
Hello Armando. Yes It's 2022 and I just bought a C200. Yes my first Big Boy camera although I do own a C100 mark ii. I'm loving it and it's still a lot of camera for me.
I've done lots of research and I understand a bit more about full frame and Super 35. Some say this sensor is Full Frame, some say it's still a cropped sensor. Can you tell me which one it truly is?
That you.
the KP
Great video. Well put together. Lit nicely....and you didn't make it all about you. Something rare these days on TH-cam
Whats the difference between the C200 and C200B? Thank you for getting back. Love all your vids.
mars GIA The B is body only, doesn't come with monitor, top handle, EVF, etc.
Hey Armando, what's that eyecup you have on your EVF? I dig it, looks a lot better than the stock one! Thanks
All TH-cam videos should look this good.
Thank you!!
@@mondobytes how did you get ya video to look like this? did use the camera in this review?
Awesome Videos, What lens are you using with the C200, Just got mine yesterday, Had Sony A9 and Fs700 and made a total switch Sony to Canon.
This was very informative, thank you