Hi Carl. There were four main reasons I purchased this off ProAv. AF was the most important, followed by colour science. It's being used for a very long term project so rubustness was third. Fourth was something you did n't mention. Continuing advice and support from yourselves. Hopefully Canon will also suprise and delight us early birds with a nice free 10 bit firmware upgrade! Everyone else can pay a licence fee. Ouch! Who threw that? BobUK.
We have watched a lot of videos of ProAV before we purchased a cinema camera and we are very thankful for making trustful videos. We decided to buy a Canon C200 and after 3 months of work we love it. We really agree on those 5 reasons! It‘s a fantastic camera, really reliable and the image quality is pretty awesome.
It an awesome camera but too much on the extremes to be useful for everything. You either get full on raw lite or highly compressed 8bit 420 mp4 files. Nothing in between. Get 14 minutes of raw on a 128gb cfast card, $280, or an hour of mp4 UHD on an 128gb SD card, 69.99. If Canon opened a restaurant like that you'd only have either small plates or enormous ones and both very expressive and almost overpriced compared to the other restaurants around the corners. But to each their own. Yay Carl is doing longer reviews again :))
The DPAF and RAW recording pulled me to the C200, coming from a C100mk1 this is a huge upgrade. Oh and great video, I wish a camerastore in the Netherlands would take the time to produce videos like this one.
From what I understand, the C200 is the only Canon cinema camera that can film up to 120 fps without any crop factor. I'm guessing that is due to the having the latest Digi6 sensor inside it? While the others will crop during slow motion filming because they don't have the Digi6 sensor. Filming in slow motion while maintaining full resolution picture is important to me. Also does the C200 come with XLR audio input?
Yep, nailed it - I love mine. The only downside is my Tamron SP 15-30mm F/2.8 will not work with it, worked fine on my C100 the lens has been sent off for firmware check but nothing they can do. so worth noting
He's making it up. Don't ever take anything from Johnathon Frumdehood seriously, he's a troll. There's no such issue. The real issue with Tamrons you may run into is that Tamron lenses don't send information to the camera (at least the newer cinema line cameras like the C300 mark II and above). I had the Tamron 85mm Prime and I can't change the iris no get any auto focus support. This is seems to be an issue with Tamron not canon and Tamron doesn't seem to be interested in fixing it at the time being. I would recommend joining the C200 facebook group, they have great support.
Can anyone answer how the extended nd (8/10stops) looks? Is it useful or is there bad colour shift etc. Thoughts. It’s one of the main reasons I would choose this camera over the c100mii
Full frame definitely won’t “kill the need for super 35”. Just like how people still use micro four thirds cameras like the gh5 when super35mm exists. They are simply different formats. I would absolutely love canon to release a new camera in the c100 category. Basically a C200 without the raw function. It would be a great addition to the line up. Carl
Great video, thanks a lot! I am in the process of buying a C200 myself and have a really stupid and noob question but.. i will ask anyway simply because I dont know about it or how this camera works. When shooting RAW, are any video profiles or LOG modes selectable or can/need to be applied (like when shooting MP4), or because its RAW, basically is just RAW straight out of the sensor with no procession and end of story? Thanks again :)
Does Canon not have any architects in the team? I found the camera looking akward and goofy if its not hidden in a big rig. But it is taste and pleasure. Thats mine.
We have our main office in Hemel Hempstead, just outside of London. Then we have our Bromsgrove office for the midlands. You’re welcome to come say hi! Carl
I know it's better than it should be, I worked with c200 rented. But I've seen the differences with the competetitors's codec and still worried about it
C200 or UMP for both events as well as feature films. UMP can record on many codecs even prores 422 and on dual ssd's and it's film like look gets compared to ARRI & RED. Kindly advise Cheers
Personally, the C200 is a more flexible camera, especially for events work, because of its AF, Low light, design and choice of small or large codecs. But the image is also lovely out of the BM UMP so it does depend on your priorities Carl
No problem. You can get the Ursa Mini Pro here, if you need any help just call/email our sales team: www.proav.co.uk/blackmagic-design-ursa-mini-pro Carl
We don't rent equipment i'm afraid. We are a dealer, so you want to purchase any of the equipment we talk about on this channel then simply go to www.proav.co.uk Carl
You forgot to mentioned that recording at 4K high quality is very expensive because the cost of higher quality higher storage cFastCards about 650usd for a 250gb!
Respect for all you're good work. Skin color looks terrible, a little bit strange when you talk about the beautiful colors from canon especially for skin tones. Two camera's in one but an important 'third' is not there. I will buy it if they give the codec. Come on the cam is almost 10k.
RayValdezPhotography - Ok, I get that. But it explains why he looked yellow. If that wasn't the case, then it would have been a problem with the camera, hence, the comment.
actually having used the camera myself, i also found yellow skin tones to be a problem... certainly not as good skin tones as on the c300mkii which I would still use over this POS any day
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Hi Carl. There were four main reasons I purchased this off ProAv. AF was the most important, followed by colour science. It's being used for a very long term project so rubustness was third. Fourth was something you did n't mention. Continuing advice and support from yourselves. Hopefully Canon will also suprise and delight us early birds with a nice free 10 bit firmware upgrade! Everyone else can pay a licence fee. Ouch! Who threw that? BobUK.
We have watched a lot of videos of ProAV before we purchased a cinema camera and we are very thankful for making trustful videos. We decided to buy a Canon C200 and after 3 months of work we love it. We really agree on those 5 reasons! It‘s a fantastic camera, really reliable and the image quality is pretty awesome.
It an awesome camera but too much on the extremes to be useful for everything. You either get full on raw lite or highly compressed 8bit 420 mp4 files. Nothing in between. Get 14 minutes of raw on a 128gb cfast card, $280, or an hour of mp4 UHD on an 128gb SD card, 69.99. If Canon opened a restaurant like that you'd only have either small plates or enormous ones and both very expressive and almost overpriced compared to the other restaurants around the corners. But to each their own. Yay Carl is doing longer reviews again :))
If you actually work with the 8bit codecs it actually holds up quite well in post. Don't let it fool you.
dsa awesome response
The DPAF and RAW recording pulled me to the C200, coming from a C100mk1 this is a huge upgrade.
Oh and great video, I wish a camerastore in the Netherlands would take the time to produce videos like this one.
no other one reviews the cameras as you do. Honest and on point opinions as always. Great work!
Thanks very much! Glad you like the videos
Carl
Wish I could afford to upgrade from my C100 to get one.... sadly not ! Glad to see the scooter is back being featured :)
Really Canon C200 is a great camera, whenever I will upgrade to Cinema Camera that one will be Canon C200 only, thanks for making this video 😇👍👌
Great overview, Carl. Nice touch highlighting the visual autofocus assist on manual lenses.
From what I understand, the C200 is the only Canon cinema camera that can film up to 120 fps without any crop factor. I'm guessing that is due to the having the latest Digi6 sensor inside it? While the others will crop during slow motion filming because they don't have the Digi6 sensor. Filming in slow motion while maintaining full resolution picture is important to me. Also does the C200 come with XLR audio input?
Although I'm in the U.S. and can't purchase from ProAV, I subscribed to your channel just for Carl's Reviews.
We ship worldwide 😉
Glad you like the reviews!
Carl
Hey guys, have you heard of a c200 mk II?
Yep, nailed it - I love mine.
The only downside is my Tamron SP 15-30mm F/2.8 will not work with it, worked fine on my C100 the lens has been sent off for firmware check but nothing they can do. so worth noting
Hmm thats interesting, is there any documented evidence for this, my 24-70 has worked perfectly for months
He's making it up. Don't ever take anything from Johnathon Frumdehood seriously, he's a troll. There's no such issue.
The real issue with Tamrons you may run into is that Tamron lenses don't send information to the camera (at least the newer cinema line cameras like the C300 mark II and above). I had the Tamron 85mm Prime and I can't change the iris no get any auto focus support.
This is seems to be an issue with Tamron not canon and Tamron doesn't seem to be interested in fixing it at the time being. I would recommend joining the C200 facebook group, they have great support.
I hope the C200 II with internal 10-bit 4:2:2 and H.265 comes soon. C200 has no middle codec. The 8-bit is not so useful.
Zangeef Fangsteen I think the 8 bit codec is excellent
Can anyone answer how the extended nd (8/10stops) looks? Is it useful or is there bad colour shift etc. Thoughts.
It’s one of the main reasons I would choose this camera over the c100mii
Will full-frame kill the need for Super35? Is there future for the C100? Will Canon release an RF version? So many questions!
Full frame definitely won’t “kill the need for super 35”. Just like how people still use micro four thirds cameras like the gh5 when super35mm exists. They are simply different formats.
I would absolutely love canon to release a new camera in the c100 category. Basically a C200 without the raw function. It would be a great addition to the line up.
Carl
Great video, thanks a lot! I am in the process of buying a C200 myself and have a really stupid and noob question but.. i will ask anyway simply because I dont know about it or how this camera works. When shooting RAW, are any video profiles or LOG modes selectable or can/need to be applied (like when shooting MP4), or because its RAW, basically is just RAW straight out of the sensor with no procession and end of story? Thanks again :)
Does Canon not have any architects in the team? I found the camera looking akward and goofy if its not hidden in a big rig. But it is taste and pleasure. Thats mine.
Really? I like the way the cameras designed, apart from the viewfinder cable that is..
I guess its all subjective isnt it!
Carl
I find the camera very ugly.
Which one is the better?Sony sf5 or canon c200
I do want this camera one day. I was just wondering where in the UK are you guys based.
We have our main office in Hemel Hempstead, just outside of London. Then we have our Bromsgrove office for the midlands.
You’re welcome to come say hi!
Carl
What about those focus points? Aren't they only centered? What happens when someone is off centered?
Can't buy until 422 10bit is announced! raw is a (great) solution for just a few project, cards are just too much expansive.
Don't underestimate the 8 bit Mp4 files, they are better than the maths say they should be!
Carl
I know it's better than it should be, I worked with c200 rented. But I've seen the differences with the competetitors's codec and still worried about it
@@ProAVTV it's true!
HI Thanks for the video. Could you please let me know how the raw light video plays on the touchscreen monitor of c200 after capturing a video.
I got a sony fs5 and if I have my time again I would got the c200. Focus, screen and raw.
They are both great cameras. But yes, the autofocus, touchscreen and raw recording are big benefits
Carl
How long do the smaller batteries last ?
and douchebags
Is this the C200b?
C200b is the same camera, just without all the accessories
If I was to buy the Canon C200 mark 2 or the Canon C300 Mark 2 can I attach the Atomos Ninja inferno to them.
The C200 and C300 II will both send 4K 8 bit out over the HDMI which you will be able to record with the Ninja Inferno.
Carl
@@ProAVTV That's great news. Do you know when Canon will be bringing out the Canon C300 Mark three
price
C200 or UMP for both events as well as feature films. UMP can record on many codecs even prores 422 and on dual ssd's and it's film like look gets compared to ARRI & RED.
Kindly advise
Cheers
Personally, the C200 is a more flexible camera, especially for events work, because of its AF, Low light, design and choice of small or large codecs. But the image is also lovely out of the BM UMP so it does depend on your priorities
Carl
ProAV TV
Thanks very much Carl
I think I will go for UMP over c200 for many reasons but I do like c200 as well.
Regards
No problem. You can get the Ursa Mini Pro here, if you need any help just call/email our sales team: www.proav.co.uk/blackmagic-design-ursa-mini-pro
Carl
ProAV TV
Sure will do once ready
Cheers
So you rent out gears?
We don't rent equipment i'm afraid. We are a dealer, so you want to purchase any of the equipment we talk about on this channel then simply go to www.proav.co.uk
Carl
You forgot to mentioned that recording at 4K high quality is very expensive because the cost of higher quality higher storage cFastCards about 650usd for a 250gb!
Respect for all you're good work. Skin color looks terrible, a little bit strange when you talk about the beautiful colors from canon especially for skin tones. Two camera's in one but an important 'third' is not there. I will buy it if they give the codec. Come on the cam is almost 10k.
That's not the color, that's his real skin color.
Lots of yellow skin-tones
The first thing I wondered if he had jaundice. If that is his skin color, I hope he is healthy...
He has Jaundice but this isnt about his health but a camera.
RayValdezPhotography - Ok, I get that. But it explains why he looked yellow. If that wasn't the case, then it would have been a problem with the camera, hence, the comment.
actually having used the camera myself, i also found yellow skin tones to be a problem... certainly not as good skin tones as on the c300mkii which I would still use over this POS any day
if anything besides his illness, it looks more like someone over exposed too much and brought it down so the colors turn yellow instead of natural.
skintones
Absolutely
Carl
By Panasonic. The color space and skin tones are way better than any canon cinema camera, specially an used Varicam LT
Carl, the stuff is great, but why is your face so washed out (overexposed)?