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im interesting in part "mounting the sbm drive" :) -- im having issues to mount 2 drives that i have in deck connected to router's usb. Windows PC sees them without issues (and both are mapped as network drives), but in Linux...i cant mount them for some reason...i tried everything :(
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This honestly. I don't know from a production level, but it seems like this is a far cry from the old $35 price point, and to remove the composite cable. I don't understand why you need 4k on a Pi... if anything I'd much rather this stick with 1080p performance if it could have knocked things down in cost. $60 is no longer an impulse buy. It's now something I have to make as a calculated decision. Cause two PI-5's can be the same as an old desktop which will be a lot more useful.
I really don't like, that it has a fan by default now. Of cause there will be third-party passive coolers, but I think that no moving parts was a key selling point for the older models.
To add on, I think the selling point was also the fact that often you didn't need one! Sure the Rpi5 is much faster then the RPi4, but that extra performance came at a cost of power input and size.
The fan is optional. The Pi 5 will throttle to stay safe under heavy load, so it can even run without active cooling, but cases doing passive cooling can prevent throttling. The extra cooling requirement actually started with the Pi 4 - more performant chips generate more heat. I started buying FLIRC cases since the Raspberry Pi 3 because I prefer using my Pis both safely and quietly.
Glad you got in some quality time testing in both 4K displays. I wonder if performance would be slightly better on a single HD display for openarena especially!
The annoying part is that the newer models are just going further and further from being accessible kind of going against the idea of raspberry pi, I just hope they can keep the weaker models and still manufacture them.
Thank you for saying it out loud. Every day, RPi becomes a little more of a cult. Not the loveable upstart that made computing accessible as it once was.
Accessible how? In terms of price? That's inflation for you...California just passed a raise in minimum wage for fast-food workers to $20/hr. Once that takes effect someone working at Mcdonalds in California will be able to buy a Raspberry Pi 5 after a half days work.
@@sharpfangMicrocenter is pretty good about selling things in such a way that people can actually get them. I guarantee they'll have people camping out for them though.
@@Gnecro Wow! Can’t believe they already sold through those and now just have 3,400 left to order for January 2024. Edit: It seems DigiKey is a bit better and has 1,800 available for order in mid December
Today's a Raspberry 5 announcement day. My TH-cam is flooded with videos on Raspberry 5 announcements! Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to know it'll be available next month.
This felt like a raspberry pi sales pitch to me. I’m so excited for the Pi5 and will buy probably quite a few but felt like he didn’t wanted to disappoint raspberry pi and say anything negative.
Felt the same, despite the 4K video freezing and 1 YT video lagging at 720p all he said was 'it is usable' But this is just the common Pi Experience as a desktop, hence why i would try some debloated linux distro instead of Raspbian
Been a follower of his for a little while now; he gets excited when new tech that he's passionate about is launched like the rest of us. He's just making a video about it and his excitement shines. I personally have no interest in a Raspberry Pi. I have no use for one. But just seeing what it's capable of fascinates me.
@@pxolqopt35972.4 GHz quad-core is getting close to my old workstation 3.0 GHz CPU running Windows. So with a leaner OS, maybe it can earn the title "workstation" 8Gb RAM of course.
That's because he's HIGHLY likely been given a few hundred dollars in Raspberry Pi tech gear for free. Can't look a gift horse in the mouth now can we? NOT when there's a ton of other shit & accessories that they'll release that he'll likely get for free as well.
It’s over 18 I had one, but after three years of opening up chrome tabs do USB-C port stopped working the microSD card slot stopped working, and chrome was broken
Fun trivia. The RPi5 has a Broadcom chip in it. The Technology Director at Broadcom is Sophie Wilson who single handedly designed the ARM ISA in 1983 while working for Acorn Computers (remember the BBC Micro?)!
Pretty much everyone involved in the RPi development are current or former Broadcom employees. And there's a lot of people oscillating between ARM and Broadcom in Cambridge. Not that many other fabless design shops there...
The Welsh factory is churning out millions of Pi 4s. Current waiting times on new stock about 6-8 weeks. Pi 5s not expected until the New Year, though some are hoping for end-December delivery (unlikely).
And, as an added bonus, the Raspi 5 offers countless 'influencers' unending numbers of viewers! Nice unit, but SBCs that continue to eat more power are, for many people, contrary to the original purpose: portable computing, off batteries.
@@Vicenteprz Ras pi 1 2 and 3 were $35. As we got into Ras Pi 4 there were different versions and I think the Ras pi 4 1GB was the $35 ( or close to $35 ) version. Rasp pi 5 there seems to be nothing close to $35.
@@dominick253 _Inflation my friend..._ not really. The fact is that Raspberry Pi moved from a hobbyists to an enterprise oriented product but failed to suffice the supply to satisfy the huge demand the businesses caused. All those factors cause the board shortages and push the prices up high. But in fact Raspberry Pi is quite mediocre product which doesn't even have a native PCI-E SATA interface on-board which is absolutely ridiculous especially when the others do.
For checking temps or other stuff "live" in terminal just do: watch -n1 'your command' Very useful, you don't need to use the same command over and over again since it will basically send that command every second now and display the output in a live preview. Very useful
THANK YOU! everyone else just did benchmark tests and listed specs which means nothing to me. You actually did things with it and let us see what to actually expect
Hey Chuck, I love all your videos.Your passion for IT is genuinely infectious! It resonates with me deeply, and it's inspiring to see someone so fired up about it. :)
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965exactly. This channel is good for the newbies getting some passion into IT otherwise its just an overhyped channel which selling “cd” as a masterhacker command.
Love it! I do wish they swapped out the micro hdmi ports for vertical fullsized hdmi ports (or even just 1 horizontal one) and kept the 3.5mm headphone jack but even so I'm definitely picking one up. Also pronouncing the gpu as a 'Videocore Vee-two' confused me for a moment, its just roman numerals for 7.
Best thing about the Pi5 is that i will finally be able to buy a Pi4 and maybe at a resonable price. With all this inflation and preice gouging.... I just went into purchasing stasis.
It’s great that of a lot of TH-camrs are doing reviews on these. Raspberry pi lost a huge market share due to it shortage the last 3 years.. but how does the new PI stack up against some of the others that were released as a replacement.. my guess is they are still lacking in some things. Once the hype is over with this “new” model can you do a side by side from others? I know Jeff has already posted about some things about some comparisons.
I think Jeff Geerling (I probably miss spelled it) compared it and it can compete with orange pi, but not with twice more expensive rockchip, but at least it seems competitive and keeping up.
@@rmo9808 support is very valuable, but these things were meant for tinkers/programmers/DIY people, they already go into things naturally with uncertainity, case in point I have made 5 different Asian clones work as multiple use cases
I switched to an OrangePI 5 after the stock issues. I have never looked back! Amazing little piece of kit! The new RPI 5 however does look really promising. I think guys have been eagarly waiting for this release!
The responsiveness actually wasn't bad given that it's running off of an SD card. I wonder if it can boot from an SSD over that nice new PCIE interface
should be able to electrically, but unsure if any one has made a case or adaptor to do it neatly. Currently Argon Forty makes a die-cast alloy case (V2 case) for the Raspberry 4B that you add their M.2 base to..... then you can install your SATA (M.2) SSD (eg: a Kingston A400 or WD Green) and yes it boots. I'm using one. (They also do a NVMe base for that case, I am not sure of the name for it.) But the Pi 5 is physically different from the Pi 4B.... so you might have to wait for a neat and tidy solution for now. At this point I can see bare circuit boards, connector cables and plug and sockets and SSD cards on a bench....
I am curious about the transcoding performance and such for Plex. The PCIe extension has a lot of promise. I've been fighting current hardware prices because I want to go back to using a closet NAS. The Pi4 just didn't have the stones I needed, and anything MiniITX is insanely overpriced.
So far it looks like AVC/264 transcode speeds are going to be slower since the hardware AVC is gone, but probably faster than the Pi 4 on Plex since they never supported the Pi 4 encoder anyway. If Plex chooses to support the new HEVC/265 hardware then speeds are going to be much better there. Still no hardware AV1, so it’s probably not going to be able to stream those transcodes above like 720p. The Pi 5 can make a decent media player, but there are better media server options at a similar price point and power consumption level.
@@JamesCusano Dang. Ahh well. Guess I'll be going back to the mITX/used server plan. On the upside, I've heard great things about those low profile Intel Arc cards for media server applications.
I use rpi's for many projects. I use them exclusively because of rpi os, long term support, and the fact they have a great community around it. Projects include wifi controllers, animated light show players and digital signage.
I added a tower cooler with a noctua fan to my 4B 8GB. Overclocked to 2147 and it runs pretty well I must say. Wonder what the OC headroom is on the new one.
Awesome Chuck! My objective now till November next: increase my raspberry cluster with a RPi5 and increase my spark cluster performance with AI and machine learning capabilities. Also test the crypto capabilities. Thank you from Brazil for this your demonstration. 👊🏽
Got some old gen 2s I’ve abandoned. server kept crashing over a few days running. The lag using a monitor was painful. Will check this out for pocketable homelabs but hope a competitor makes inference practical SBCs off the wake of this release.
I need help dont know shit about raspberries. But i have a infrared t2 pro thermal camera that i want to build a long range drone around. Heard id need a raspberrypi to do this. Not sure if its possibly. And then send the signal to a monitor or controler.
Did you do the project? How did it go? I’d go with a 4 - there’s a ton of documentation on it and you don’t need anything serious, especially for personal use. I’ll be getting a 4 when I finish my router. I’m using an old dell optiplex to run proxmox and virtualize pfsense or opnsense and a few other things. I may set the pihole up virtual on proxmox too depending how the old dell handles everything. Kind of want to do it on a pi4 just for the portability aspect
@@TREXYT awesome man! Yeah I’ve been between the pi 4 and one of those Zima boards now (have you seen them?). Zima is more expensive but would let me do more on the road. I like the idea of being able to bring a router, vpn, pihole, nas all on a family road trip
@@hvacmisadventures you dont need a zima for this project , i used pi4 2gb, you can use pi3 even small raspberry pi does the job, zima is for big projects which ask for more power
Dual 4k60 is cool, but with the extra cores, how does it do with openWRT or opnsense? Is it a better router? A better firewall? A better piHole? You know, the stuff most of us use a Pi for.
5gbps bandwidth is kinda desktop levels of standard, I am impressed. Wait so the memory is DDR4 at 4.2ghz? Thats also kinda impressive, definately going to build a media center with this one.
The main selling point of a media center is "the picture", how can you underestimate laggy framerates, did u even watch the video? This kills the suspense in movies that rely on it for artistic effect, and for many kills watching for longer periods of time in general
I found this review better and more useful as a consumer than all the technical tests, numbers and benchmarks. Wish more reviewers would just play around with it for a bit in day to day usage.
@@IHateGoogle6969 he showed some what a use case scenario. Data to the level of gamers nexus has its place and is useful. But it’s nice to just see how it performs especially if you don’t already have a point of reference to base the charts, graphs and numbers off of. And not just a benchmark video or worst premium benchmark but an actual daily use example. Why buy an i9 when all your daily needs is a i3, something a consumer. Wouldn’t be able to tell from a cinabench score with out a point of reference. For example the actual video playback at 4K. Numbers and charts would have shown increase over pi 4 (I have one) which I know can’t do video well or even just typing in google docs. So does the 5 perform better? Data says yes. But the video of a Chuck playing a video at 4K shows, no it still has a little ways to go.
The Pi 5 seems to be migrating out of its embedded niche. Seems to be an OK if underpowered Desktop replacement, but massively overpowered for a lot of embedded applications. Not sure I personally get the appeal for that. 1 litre formfactor business machines are pretty danged small with true desktop power and some modularity.
I guess the Pi has the price advantage by quite a bit compared to 1L PCs, and GPIO. Raspberry Pi probably thinks that the Zero W 2 took up the niche for more embedded use cases.
@@dtaggartofRTD true, though one of the complaints I've heard from people is that larger customers have preferential treatment in getting Pi's before regular retail channels, so it depends.
@@seshpenguin That's another issue with Pis. Can't build a project around a board you can't get. I've had to scrounge substitutes for several Pi projects. Old thin clients, and off lease 1L boxes have been my go-to lately since Pis are just too much of a pain to source.
Hello Chuck, I couldn’t find a quick guide on TH-cam explaining how to install Windows 10 or Windows 11 on Raspberry Pi 5. I would greatly appreciate it if you could create a detailed and engaging guide on this topic, perhaps to enjoy with a good coffee.
@@r0bo11 pcie gen 2 is fine for hard drives, most of the HBAs used in homelab are pcie gen 2 anyway. You would definitely have to power the hard drives with a different power supply, but this is easy to do.
Will the fan kick off once it cools down or does it run all the time? If so, it would be really cool to and a script that would allow us to put in a temp factor where we could control it from not running all the time if not needed. Thanks for all your great videos, man!
bit of an odd take since a cluster's main characteristic is power through having more units with less performance per price, instead of 1 or 2 strong performing units (like a desktop or traditional server), in this case a rack of chinese clones will outperform the entire raspberry pi brand->line unites for the price. Reliability specifically is not relevant because you think it's bad because it's Chinese, because 1 of the major advantages is specifically in cluster computing, that multiple nodes can fail, and the cluster keeps operating just a bit slower until you swapped the faulty units. You price will be lower and your parallel computing power greater per price point with Chinese clones
im glad you showed the 4k test , I watched jeffs video earlier, im curious to see whats up when he uses the graphics card, i am curious to see how you would personally impliment this tool into your system if at all. . . ill keep watching
Was that 4K video you played over the network encoded in H.264? The lag would make sense if it's not, since that would mean that the CPU would be used instead of the H.264 hardware decoder, and the CPU would probably not be powerful enough for that. I have an old Celeron laptop hooked up to my TV which plays any 4K60 video smoothly if it's encoded in H.264, but struggles with even 1080p60 if it's not.
11:35 If you’ve got gigabit Ethernet, odds are that 125MB/s will be very similar to the SD’s max speed. And Samba can be brutal on low power CPUs to handle and it’s limited to single core usage.
wow! the raspberry pi has come a long way:) i remember getting my raspberry pi model b back in 2014:) no bluetooth, no wifi:). i think i will finally upgrade my raspberry pi. i curently use a raspberry pi 2
At 15:52 into the video. How does the Orange Pi 5 stand with this same test? I realize it has more cores, but I'm curious how well it performs over the Pi 5 with dollars versus performance.
When you played the game in the small window, I have remebered when we played Doom in 1993 on 286 - connected 2 with serial cable. We needed to shrink it to such small window even on 320x240 CRT monitor ... oh, memories.
QUESTION. So I’m new to gaming and emulation and all that. I bought a four player console arcade from arcademodup. Now I know that from what they said it uses a raspberry pi 3B +. Now I know that between the three and the five there are certain connections and ports that are different. My question is, could I buy the raspberry pi five and then eventually buy a preloaded SD card full of games and just swap out the old raspberry pie with the new one, obviously also changing the USB or the power source or whatever ports are diff. And would it be just up and running and gaming. Like do I have to put the SD card in a computer and do anything with it because from my understanding when you buy the preloaded SD cards from certain websites, their pitch is they did all the hard work loading the games on the card and ideally, you should be able to just put the card in the raspberry pi turn on the power and play.
Question, can the Raspberry Pi 5 actually emulate Nintendo 64 and DS games? As you know I played games including NES, SNES, Gameboy, Sega games including Dreamcast and Playstation 1, PC Dos games which plays games perfectly. However, certain Nintendo games like Paper Mario 64, Bomberman 64, Indiana Jones and the infernal Machine and many handful of N64 games crash or glitch up and I'm frustrated. While I still can play other N64 games like Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Bomberman 64 the Second Attack, Quest 64, I'm frustrated that I can't play my favorite N64 games Bomberman 64, Paper Mario 64 since it crashes and is unplayable. Will the Raspberry Pi 5, also fix those glitchy N64 games including the ones that stutter and run slow even the Nintendo DS games? Let me know, I want to be able to play N64 and DS games. Also I want to see if it can at least run certain Gamecube games like Fire Emblem Path of Radiance but I won't hold out for the Playstation 2 games running on the Raspberry Pi 5.
A while ago, I realized an old device I had had a raspberry 3 in it. Today I formatted the SD card, replaced it with 32 GB, and installed the OS and really liked it. I think Raspberry Pi OS is the cleanest, nicest, simplest operating system I have seen… and I’ve used a lot. So I now really like the raspberry pi.
IMO they shouldn't add onboard storage in the future. SD cards are really comfortable to swap out and quickly change the OSes, it would also take more space which is crucial for a microcomputer
You can use pliers to remove them. Look closely for the direction of the spready bits, use pliers and carefully pinch them while pushing them into the board. As soon as both clisps are in, just use a corner of the pliers to push it the rest of the way. Don't break anything and you can use it again if you needed to. I'm sure you can't do that too many times, so don't do it any more than necessary.
Thanks for nice video! I have a couple of questions. How many serial ports in total RPi 5 have? Is the dedicated serial port is always (after each reboot) remains same in terms of naming? How its named? Have you tried to use it as a console port? Is the GPIO can handle two ports or Bluetooth is eating one of it? Thank you!
Seems awesome. Tbh I'm not a fan of those moving parts, the active cooling. You might wanna use the RPi someplace other than the living room, and moving parts will break. They should make an equivalent passive cooling system, if a cooling system is needed. (unless ofc this is a panametric fan they are using, which is unbreakable). The power button seems convenient but it's not really, I'd rather they had 2 extra pins for it, to connect your own doordle spring or handle it programmatically, which fits better the RPi I think, for what it is and its intended uses. Other than those minor issues, awesome.
After seeing that video of a guy modding a switch to run box86 games, Im SUPER hyped to see what we can do with the Pi 5 Not because we should, but because we can
I’d bet if you got it setup to boot from a real SSD using a SATA to USB connector, that it would probably run a hell of a lot smoother. If it has PCIe 2.0, then there are going to be people adding NVMe storage. Maybe by the next generation they’ll put an NVMe connector on the back, so you can use one of those little ones like they used in the Steam Deck-because if they do, that’ll make them legit low-end PCs. Obviously you’re gonna want to keep the SD reader, but I think adding the connector is way more useful than even those camera connectors. My primary use for these are for emulation, and there was a lot of stuff the 4 came really close to running, so I’m looking forward to the added grunt being able to make certain games functional.
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the pie is very cool
Thank you, and a small form factor Server setup with 4 RasPi 5s will make this product a win for the budget user's... MASSIVE
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im interesting in part "mounting the sbm drive" :) -- im having issues to mount 2 drives that i have in deck connected to router's usb. Windows PC sees them without issues (and both are mapped as network drives), but in Linux...i cant mount them for some reason...i tried everything :(
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Videocore v.2 GPU boy oh boy :D I'd say 7, but you do you !
Knowledge is knowing it CAN use 2 4K monitors. Wisdom is knowing you SHOULDN’T.
Realism is knowing if you can afford two 4K monitors, you'll be able to afford RPi5 (from scalpers).
@@sharpfangI just said the same thing about the scalpers before seeing this comment
This honestly.
I don't know from a production level, but it seems like this is a far cry from the old $35 price point, and to remove the composite cable.
I don't understand why you need 4k on a Pi... if anything I'd much rather this stick with 1080p performance if it could have knocked things down in cost.
$60 is no longer an impulse buy. It's now something I have to make as a calculated decision. Cause two PI-5's can be the same as an old desktop which will be a lot more useful.
@@novamaster0 Info screens are a big application for rpi. Framerate in single digits is not a deal breaker, but sharp, big contents matter.
wisdom is also knowing the refresh rate, 60fps or bust! (which apparently it supports)
I really don't like, that it has a fan by default now. Of cause there will be third-party passive coolers, but I think that no moving parts was a key selling point for the older models.
To add on, I think the selling point was also the fact that often you didn't need one! Sure the Rpi5 is much faster then the RPi4, but that extra performance came at a cost of power input and size.
The fan is optional. The Pi 5 will throttle to stay safe under heavy load, so it can even run without active cooling, but cases doing passive cooling can prevent throttling. The extra cooling requirement actually started with the Pi 4 - more performant chips generate more heat. I started buying FLIRC cases since the Raspberry Pi 3 because I prefer using my Pis both safely and quietly.
@@kneekoopeople are such thoughtless haters. Thanks for sharing actual logic 🙏🏼
Glad you got in some quality time testing in both 4K displays. I wonder if performance would be slightly better on a single HD display for openarena especially!
Hi Jeff!
Great to see you here!
@@bren.rDitto!
I was wondering the same thing. Two 4k monitors was probably a bit much. I assume you were not seeing as much slow downs in your tests Jeff?
I was thinking it was slow cause of no hardware accelerated video, so the cpu has to work overtime.
The annoying part is that the newer models are just going further and further from being accessible kind of going against the idea of raspberry pi, I just hope they can keep the weaker models and still manufacture them.
Composite video+audio out will be missed.
Spot on ❤
Thank you for saying it out loud. Every day, RPi becomes a little more of a cult. Not the loveable upstart that made computing accessible as it once was.
@@sanjaybhatikar It's not a cult until people are replacing their nations flags with ones of their own.
Accessible how? In terms of price? That's inflation for you...California just passed a raise in minimum wage for fast-food workers to $20/hr. Once that takes effect someone working at Mcdonalds in California will be able to buy a Raspberry Pi 5 after a half days work.
People love Raspberry PI so much. I bet there will be a line at Microcenter on launch day. Can’t believe it’s been so long since 4.
You think there will be any at Microcenter? I bet they will appear for $300 on eBay on launch day, and won't be available anywhere else.
Love? I sold all Pi's except a DVB-T tuner one. Never looked back. With profit though, so some of us still love Pi's.
MicroCenter will raise the cost when you buy more than one.
@@sharpfangMicrocenter is pretty good about selling things in such a way that people can actually get them. I guarantee they'll have people camping out for them though.
@@sharpfangMicrocenter has always been unusually good at getting stock for in-store purchases.
I'm looking forward to picking one up in four years when they finally become available.
Please strive to be more resourceful and confident in your ability to be so.
@@thoughtyness their website says they won’t have them until January 2024… so it begins.
@@Gnecro Wow! Can’t believe they already sold through those and now just have 3,400 left to order for January 2024. Edit: It seems DigiKey is a bit better and has 1,800 available for order in mid December
@@thoughtyness Chasing dragons.
Right? Lol I still haven't gotten one of the rpi4's, yet.
Today's a Raspberry 5 announcement day. My TH-cam is flooded with videos on Raspberry 5 announcements! Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to know it'll be available next month.
This felt like a raspberry pi sales pitch to me. I’m so excited for the Pi5 and will buy probably quite a few but felt like he didn’t wanted to disappoint raspberry pi and say anything negative.
Felt the same, despite the 4K video freezing and 1 YT video lagging at 720p all he said was 'it is usable'
But this is just the common Pi Experience as a desktop, hence why i would try some debloated linux distro instead of Raspbian
Been a follower of his for a little while now; he gets excited when new tech that he's passionate about is launched like the rest of us. He's just making a video about it and his excitement shines. I personally have no interest in a Raspberry Pi. I have no use for one. But just seeing what it's capable of fascinates me.
@@alionicle does anyone even use it for its graphical ability? I use my pi4 just for a cheap remote server that doesn't take up much space
@@pxolqopt35972.4 GHz quad-core is getting close to my old workstation 3.0 GHz CPU running Windows. So with a leaner OS, maybe it can earn the title "workstation" 8Gb RAM of course.
That's because he's HIGHLY likely been given a few hundred dollars in Raspberry Pi tech gear for free.
Can't look a gift horse in the mouth now can we?
NOT when there's a ton of other shit & accessories that they'll release that he'll likely get for free as well.
the real question is how many chorme tabs
It’s over 18 I had one, but after three years of opening up chrome tabs do USB-C port stopped working the microSD card slot stopped working, and chrome was broken
@@Isaacryan833the raspberry pi 5?
@@Isaacryan833can we use tails os on it
Fun trivia. The RPi5 has a Broadcom chip in it. The Technology Director at Broadcom is Sophie Wilson who single handedly designed the ARM ISA in 1983 while working for Acorn Computers (remember the BBC Micro?)!
Ah the days of green screen CRT !
Pretty much everyone involved in the RPi development are current or former Broadcom employees. And there's a lot of people oscillating between ARM and Broadcom in Cambridge. Not that many other fabless design shops there...
You and the dictionary have a different definition of 'single handedly'
Ok, mainly then. @@IHateGoogle6969
It is like ... I am all for women's rights, but I also want my computers to run well 🙊😅
I’m so excited for the new stuff. Hopefully it makes it so that the older version are more available.
The Welsh factory is churning out millions of Pi 4s. Current waiting times on new stock about 6-8 weeks. Pi 5s not expected until the New Year, though some are hoping for end-December delivery (unlikely).
And, as an added bonus, the Raspi 5 offers countless 'influencers' unending numbers of viewers! Nice unit, but SBCs that continue to eat more power are, for many people, contrary to the original purpose: portable computing, off batteries.
Sad that we have left the $35 price point behind but, this thing is hot!
It was 35 $$$ in the past???
@@Vicenteprz Ras pi 1 2 and 3 were $35. As we got into Ras Pi 4 there were different versions and I think the Ras pi 4 1GB was the $35 ( or close to $35 ) version. Rasp pi 5 there seems to be nothing close to $35.
Inflation my friend...
On the brightside pi 4s will actually be available for a little while as the scalpers dump their stock for these
@@dominick253 _Inflation my friend..._
not really. The fact is that Raspberry Pi moved from a hobbyists to an enterprise oriented product but failed to suffice the supply to satisfy the huge demand the businesses caused. All those factors cause the board shortages and push the prices up high. But in fact Raspberry Pi is quite mediocre product which doesn't even have a native PCI-E SATA interface on-board which is absolutely ridiculous especially when the others do.
For checking temps or other stuff "live" in terminal just do:
watch -n1 'your command'
Very useful, you don't need to use the same command over and over again since it will basically send that command every second now and display the output in a live preview. Very useful
My favorite improvement so far is the built-in RTC. No more annoying I2C modules to keep track of.
THANK YOU! everyone else just did benchmark tests and listed specs which means nothing to me. You actually did things with it and let us see what to actually expect
Hey Chuck, I love all your videos.Your passion for IT is genuinely infectious! It resonates with me deeply, and it's inspiring to see someone so fired up about it. :)
i laughed when this common beardo said "51 degrees Celsius" with a sense of profoundness and self-importance, like he just discovered something new
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965exactly. This channel is good for the newbies getting some passion into IT otherwise its just an overhyped channel which selling “cd” as a masterhacker command.
Id be interested to see what cool projects can be done on the new PI.
Dream projects that were desired on the older PI's, but weren't possible.
Love it! I do wish they swapped out the micro hdmi ports for vertical fullsized hdmi ports (or even just 1 horizontal one) and kept the 3.5mm headphone jack but even so I'm definitely picking one up.
Also pronouncing the gpu as a 'Videocore Vee-two' confused me for a moment, its just roman numerals for 7.
It has gpio pins so can't you just set a pair as analog outputs (via the DAC) and plug in that way?
@@isbestlizardNot if it sounds like a pi4 does when you try that. It's noisy.
@@isbestlizard The Pi5 still has pads on the board for the analog video/audio out, you just have to wire it up yourself
I just bought one and got my Raspberry Pi 5 today. I'm testing it and im watching all of your videos 👍🏼 love your videos.
Best thing about the Pi5 is that i will finally be able to buy a Pi4 and maybe at a resonable price. With all this inflation and preice gouging.... I just went into purchasing stasis.
Hey, I absolutely love the production quality here. A+, top grade production my friend, rare these days! Keep up the good work
Would love to see what this beast can do with a SSD
Its amazing. Soon we will even be able to play a 720p TH-cam video almost lag free.
Just ordered mine yesterday. I'm so excited! This and bunch of other videos will surely help get going and explore. Thanks for your content!
The Pi 5 looks like a great upgrade! Thanks for the advance look.
Man like I'm watching this and I'm just like "Chuck really does deserve every single subscriber he has" like Jesus Christ do I love the guy
It’s great that of a lot of TH-camrs are doing reviews on these. Raspberry pi lost a huge market share due to it shortage the last 3 years.. but how does the new PI stack up against some of the others that were released as a replacement.. my guess is they are still lacking in some things. Once the hype is over with this “new” model can you do a side by side from others? I know Jeff has already posted about some things about some comparisons.
They can't iterate as fast as smaller companies in China and the like but the support for these will probably be a lot better.
I think Jeff Geerling (I probably miss spelled it) compared it and it can compete with orange pi, but not with twice more expensive rockchip, but at least it seems competitive and keeping up.
@@rmo9808 support is very valuable, but these things were meant for tinkers/programmers/DIY people, they already go into things naturally with uncertainity, case in point I have made 5 different Asian clones work as multiple use cases
You had me hooked during the intro. Keep doing what you do. Well balanced humor information and facial expressions. ❤
I switched to an OrangePI 5 after the stock issues. I have never looked back! Amazing little piece of kit! The new RPI 5 however does look really promising. I think guys have been eagarly waiting for this release!
Are there software support limitations?
@@mrgringo7289 Some CSI cameras and projectors don't work on the OrangePI :(
11:37 You can now boot off a USB drive which should have a massive storage speed boost, which could make playing local 4K videos faster
Loved the video. Looking forward to some awesome NC projects.
Hooray for Pi 5!!!
Now I can upgrade & find somethin else to do with my Pi 4b 😀
Thx 4 the vid, @NetworkChuck !!
Can’t wait to not be able to buy one at MSRP for 4 years
Ikr 😂😢
It's a cult, with zealots who push it like this one
Maybe longer... I can sell my pi 4b for almost the same (way above the 35$ MSRP) money I bought it four years ago...
The responsiveness actually wasn't bad given that it's running off of an SD card. I wonder if it can boot from an SSD over that nice new PCIE interface
should be able to electrically, but unsure if any one has made a case or adaptor to do it neatly. Currently Argon Forty makes a die-cast alloy case (V2 case) for the Raspberry 4B that you add their M.2 base to..... then you can install your SATA (M.2) SSD (eg: a Kingston A400 or WD Green) and yes it boots. I'm using one.
(They also do a NVMe base for that case, I am not sure of the name for it.)
But the Pi 5 is physically different from the Pi 4B.... so you might have to wait for a neat and tidy solution for now. At this point I can see bare circuit boards, connector cables and plug and sockets and SSD cards on a bench....
I am curious about the transcoding performance and such for Plex. The PCIe extension has a lot of promise. I've been fighting current hardware prices because I want to go back to using a closet NAS. The Pi4 just didn't have the stones I needed, and anything MiniITX is insanely overpriced.
So far it looks like AVC/264 transcode speeds are going to be slower since the hardware AVC is gone, but probably faster than the Pi 4 on Plex since they never supported the Pi 4 encoder anyway. If Plex chooses to support the new HEVC/265 hardware then speeds are going to be much better there. Still no hardware AV1, so it’s probably not going to be able to stream those transcodes above like 720p. The Pi 5 can make a decent media player, but there are better media server options at a similar price point and power consumption level.
@@JamesCusano Dang. Ahh well. Guess I'll be going back to the mITX/used server plan. On the upside, I've heard great things about those low profile Intel Arc cards for media server applications.
I use rpi's for many projects. I use them exclusively because of rpi os, long term support, and the fact they have a great community around it. Projects include wifi controllers, animated light show players and digital signage.
I added a tower cooler with a noctua fan to my 4B 8GB. Overclocked to 2147 and it runs pretty well I must say. Wonder what the OC headroom is on the new one.
I've seen people overclock the CPU as high as 3.1 GHz, so quite a lot
you chose some well fitting beats for this vid, really goes well with the vibe
I wonder how well something like this would work to port into a Virtual Machine. It seems like it would make a great thin client.
Please do a deeper test with only one 1080p monitor I think it’s the most expected setup for this machine
Awesome Chuck! My objective now till November next: increase my raspberry cluster with a RPi5 and increase my spark cluster performance with AI and machine learning capabilities. Also test the crypto capabilities. Thank you from Brazil for this your demonstration. 👊🏽
Got some old gen 2s I’ve abandoned. server kept crashing over a few days running. The lag using a monitor was painful. Will check this out for pocketable homelabs but hope a competitor makes inference practical SBCs off the wake of this release.
Amazing video I learned something from it :)
even before watching it? XD
I LOVE this!!! I have always enjoyed messing around with RaspberryPi's. I should set up to do more fun little projects. 🎉🎉
Looking forward to the m.2 module to release!
I need help dont know shit about raspberries. But i have a infrared t2 pro thermal camera that i want to build a long range drone around. Heard id need a raspberrypi to do this. Not sure if its possibly. And then send the signal to a monitor or controler.
OMG DID THE RASPBERRY PI COME OUT!?!?!?! I CLICKED THIS SO FAST
Hi, Should i buy a raspberry 3, 4 or 5 for ad blocking dns at home ?
Did you do the project? How did it go?
I’d go with a 4 - there’s a ton of documentation on it and you don’t need anything serious, especially for personal use.
I’ll be getting a 4 when I finish my router. I’m using an old dell optiplex to run proxmox and virtualize pfsense or opnsense and a few other things. I may set the pihole up virtual on proxmox too depending how the old dell handles everything. Kind of want to do it on a pi4 just for the portability aspect
@@hvacmisadventures yep i used raspberry pi 4, everything works, i suggest you to configure unbound too, also you can add a vpn too
@@TREXYT awesome man! Yeah I’ve been between the pi 4 and one of those Zima boards now (have you seen them?). Zima is more expensive but would let me do more on the road. I like the idea of being able to bring a router, vpn, pihole, nas all on a family road trip
@@hvacmisadventures you dont need a zima for this project , i used pi4 2gb, you can use pi3 even small raspberry pi does the job, zima is for big projects which ask for more power
@@TREXYT thanks for the advice! You’re saving my wallet too haha 😂
Dual 4k60 is cool, but with the extra cores, how does it do with openWRT or opnsense? Is it a better router? A better firewall? A better piHole? You know, the stuff most of us use a Pi for.
I love that youre upbeat but also honest. The keyboard does suck.
5gbps bandwidth is kinda desktop levels of standard, I am impressed.
Wait so the memory is DDR4 at 4.2ghz? Thats also kinda impressive, definately going to build a media center with this one.
The main selling point of a media center is "the picture", how can you underestimate laggy framerates, did u even watch the video? This kills the suspense in movies that rely on it for artistic effect, and for many kills watching for longer periods of time in general
For media center I'd recommend buying Xiaomi TV Box S 2nd Gen. Much better and convenient than a Pi.
0:50 broo its been 4 yrs, I remember when the Pi4 came out, I been wanting one for the longest time.
I found this review better and more useful as a consumer than all the technical tests, numbers and benchmarks. Wish more reviewers would just play around with it for a bit in day to day usage.
How? Technical tests give you objective data to base a measured decision off. Some random online person saying "it's good" gives you nothing.
@@IHateGoogle6969 he showed some what a use case scenario. Data to the level of gamers nexus has its place and is useful. But it’s nice to just see how it performs especially if you don’t already have a point of reference to base the charts, graphs and numbers off of. And not just a benchmark video or worst premium benchmark but an actual daily use example. Why buy an i9 when all your daily needs is a i3, something a consumer. Wouldn’t be able to tell from a cinabench score with out a point of reference.
For example the actual video playback at 4K. Numbers and charts would have shown increase over pi 4 (I have one) which I know can’t do video well or even just typing in google docs. So does the 5 perform better? Data says yes. But the video of a Chuck playing a video at 4K shows, no it still has a little ways to go.
What a packed, entertaining review. Thanks NetworkChuck!
The Pi 5 seems to be migrating out of its embedded niche. Seems to be an OK if underpowered Desktop replacement, but massively overpowered for a lot of embedded applications.
Not sure I personally get the appeal for that. 1 litre formfactor business machines are pretty danged small with true desktop power and some modularity.
I guess the Pi has the price advantage by quite a bit compared to 1L PCs, and GPIO. Raspberry Pi probably thinks that the Zero W 2 took up the niche for more embedded use cases.
@@seshpenguin Before scalpers I guess it does have an edge on cost.
@@dtaggartofRTD true, though one of the complaints I've heard from people is that larger customers have preferential treatment in getting Pi's before regular retail channels, so it depends.
@@seshpenguin That's another issue with Pis. Can't build a project around a board you can't get. I've had to scrounge substitutes for several Pi projects. Old thin clients, and off lease 1L boxes have been my go-to lately since Pis are just too much of a pain to source.
Hello Chuck, I couldn’t find a quick guide on TH-cam explaining how to install Windows 10 or Windows 11 on Raspberry Pi 5. I would greatly appreciate it if you could create a detailed and engaging guide on this topic, perhaps to enjoy with a good coffee.
Mann, a pi 5 NAS with an hba connected to the pcie slot would be a synology killer
pcie slot is only gen 2 though. Even then I don't think the power supply would be enough unless you stack a hat with an extended power barrel on it.
@@r0bo11 pcie gen 2 is fine for hard drives, most of the HBAs used in homelab are pcie gen 2 anyway. You would definitely have to power the hard drives with a different power supply, but this is easy to do.
Will the fan kick off once it cools down or does it run all the time? If so, it would be really cool to and a script that would allow us to put in a temp factor where we could control it from not running all the time if not needed. Thanks for all your great videos, man!
Now to make a "supercomputer" cluster and bench it to see what kind of performance it has vs all the ones people built using the Pi 4 😁
bit of an odd take since a cluster's main characteristic is power through having more units with less performance per price, instead of 1 or 2 strong performing units (like a desktop or traditional server), in this case a rack of chinese clones will outperform the entire raspberry pi brand->line unites for the price. Reliability specifically is not relevant because you think it's bad because it's Chinese, because 1 of the major advantages is specifically in cluster computing, that multiple nodes can fail, and the cluster keeps operating just a bit slower until you swapped the faulty units. You price will be lower and your parallel computing power greater per price point with Chinese clones
As always, love your energy and enthusiasm! Thank you for the review! Learn and have fun! :-)
Enjoyed this, especially the comparison with the 4
im glad you showed the 4k test , I watched jeffs video earlier, im curious to see whats up when he uses the graphics card, i am curious to see how you would personally impliment this tool into your system if at all. . . ill keep watching
Could you set it up for an OBS stream to twitch? Wondering how good this would be for a mini streaming PC vs the pi 4
Was that 4K video you played over the network encoded in H.264? The lag would make sense if it's not, since that would mean that the CPU would be used instead of the H.264 hardware decoder, and the CPU would probably not be powerful enough for that. I have an old Celeron laptop hooked up to my TV which plays any 4K60 video smoothly if it's encoded in H.264, but struggles with even 1080p60 if it's not.
There was a problem with raspberry pi 4. It didn't work well with wifi if we use a passive cooler. I hope this would have solved by them.
Would it stream better if you used an ethernet cable, rather than wifi? I'm looking to get one to use on a lounge TV and stream my plex...
You are scaring me with the coffee Chuck! It keeps shaking near the edge in the cup. LOL
Is this a new game, "Don't Spill the Coffee?"
Just came from nowhere! Love it! Great work! The review is true. Showing that is great, its modern, but have some issues, true review. Subscribing.
11:35 If you’ve got gigabit Ethernet, odds are that 125MB/s will be very similar to the SD’s max speed. And Samba can be brutal on low power CPUs to handle and it’s limited to single core usage.
That PCIe expansion is a game changer! Raspberry PI NAS FTW!
wow! the raspberry pi has come a long way:) i remember getting my raspberry pi model b back in 2014:) no bluetooth, no wifi:). i think i will finally upgrade my raspberry pi. i curently use a raspberry pi 2
oh yeah real good! love how excited you are about a product that you cant even watch a video on. awesome
Quick question, not sure if you answered this but what is the biggest microsd tht works with raspberry pi 4/5!
bro your videos are always amazing and inspirational. God bless you
I just built a cyberdeck a few days ago with a Pi 3A+. I'm running to micro center as we speak to upgrade to the 5. Thanks for this video review!
At 15:52 into the video. How does the Orange Pi 5 stand with this same test? I realize it has more cores, but I'm curious how well it performs over the Pi 5 with dollars versus performance.
When you played the game in the small window, I have remebered when we played Doom in 1993 on 286 - connected 2 with serial cable. We needed to shrink it to such small window even on 320x240 CRT monitor ... oh, memories.
Here I am sitting trying to work out how chuck so smoothly spun the RPi at 0:16.
Awesome walkthrough 🙌🏽!
I always wish to buy one for myself and with this pi5 my curiosity craves for more. Had it comes with an aluminum casing would be great.
I just love how those specs are going to be absurd in 2 to 5 years. But right now I WAAANT OOONNEEE :) Order placed!
QUESTION.
So I’m new to gaming and emulation and all that. I bought a four player console arcade from arcademodup. Now I know that from what they said it uses a raspberry pi 3B +. Now I know that between the three and the five there are certain connections and ports that are different. My question is, could I buy the raspberry pi five and then eventually buy a preloaded SD card full of games and just swap out the old raspberry pie with the new one, obviously also changing the USB or the power source or whatever ports are diff. And would it be just up and running and gaming. Like do I have to put the SD card in a computer and do anything with it because from my understanding when you buy the preloaded SD cards from certain websites, their pitch is they did all the hard work loading the games on the card and ideally, you should be able to just put the card in the raspberry pi turn on the power and play.
Question, can the Raspberry Pi 5 actually emulate Nintendo 64 and DS games?
As you know I played games including NES, SNES, Gameboy, Sega games including Dreamcast and Playstation 1, PC Dos games which plays games perfectly.
However, certain Nintendo games like Paper Mario 64, Bomberman 64, Indiana Jones and the infernal Machine and many handful of N64 games crash or glitch up and I'm frustrated. While I still can play other N64 games like Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Bomberman 64 the Second Attack, Quest 64, I'm frustrated that I can't play my favorite N64 games Bomberman 64, Paper Mario 64 since it crashes and is unplayable.
Will the Raspberry Pi 5, also fix those glitchy N64 games including the ones that stutter and run slow even the Nintendo DS games? Let me know, I want to be able to play N64 and DS games. Also I want to see if it can at least run certain Gamecube games like Fire Emblem Path of Radiance but I won't hold out for the Playstation 2 games running on the Raspberry Pi 5.
A while ago, I realized an old device I had had a raspberry 3 in it. Today I formatted the SD card, replaced it with 32 GB, and installed the OS and really liked it.
I think Raspberry Pi OS is the cleanest, nicest, simplest operating system I have seen… and I’ve used a lot. So I now really like the raspberry pi.
@networkchuck can we get an updated video of using the raspberry pi 5 for ad blocking through our router/internet?
IMO they shouldn't add onboard storage in the future. SD cards are really comfortable to swap out and quickly change the OSes, it would also take more space which is crucial for a microcomputer
The Raspberry 5 comes in two options "out of stock" and "out of stock."
You can use pliers to remove them. Look closely for the direction of the spready bits, use pliers and carefully pinch them while pushing them into the board. As soon as both clisps are in, just use a corner of the pliers to push it the rest of the way. Don't break anything and you can use it again if you needed to. I'm sure you can't do that too many times, so don't do it any more than necessary.
This is ultimate retrogaming device. Hope cube, wii, and ps2 will run flawless.
Thanks for nice video! I have a couple of questions.
How many serial ports in total RPi 5 have?
Is the dedicated serial port is always (after each reboot) remains same in terms of naming?
How its named?
Have you tried to use it as a console port?
Is the GPIO can handle two ports or Bluetooth is eating one of it?
Thank you!
I literally just got my first pi 4 yesterday. GRRRR!!!!
I am glad it is out... it is a good device for other applications, other than a desktop
Seems awesome. Tbh I'm not a fan of those moving parts, the active cooling. You might wanna use the RPi someplace other than the living room, and moving parts will break. They should make an equivalent passive cooling system, if a cooling system is needed. (unless ofc this is a panametric fan they are using, which is unbreakable). The power button seems convenient but it's not really, I'd rather they had 2 extra pins for it, to connect your own doordle spring or handle it programmatically, which fits better the RPi I think, for what it is and its intended uses. Other than those minor issues, awesome.
I love your video, Do you have any plan to make a ESXi install for Pi 5, it look different with Pi 4 installation
Well. You had me @ 'Hello'. Nice run through. Thanks for the great review.
Just came from Jeff's video, I am very excited for this Pi, but I really hope the zero's come into stock here soon
@networkchuck , what is the model of the monitors that you used in this video?
After seeing that video of a guy modding a switch to run box86 games, Im SUPER hyped to see what we can do with the Pi 5
Not because we should, but because we can
Did you say adhesives on the cooler? Was hard to hear but those are thermal pads.
I’d bet if you got it setup to boot from a real SSD using a SATA to USB connector, that it would probably run a hell of a lot smoother. If it has PCIe 2.0, then there are going to be people adding NVMe storage.
Maybe by the next generation they’ll put an NVMe connector on the back, so you can use one of those little ones like they used in the Steam Deck-because if they do, that’ll make them legit low-end PCs. Obviously you’re gonna want to keep the SD reader, but I think adding the connector is way more useful than even those camera connectors.
My primary use for these are for emulation, and there was a lot of stuff the 4 came really close to running, so I’m looking forward to the added grunt being able to make certain games functional.