I just released my active drum transcription of Invincible, where you can follow along with the synced drum sheet music. I love Danny Carey's 7 over 3 polyrhythm throughout the song! Watch here: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
This song has become my anthem in my old age especially as my body breaks down more and more. When I was young, I was 10 feet tall and bullet proof, and now I am paying for it!
Caligula is not Julius Caesar. Caligula was an emperor of Rome who was known for his hedonism and outright insanity. He opened a brothel in his palace, and had people work it who were questionable even for his time. And there are tales of him ordering soldiers down to the beach to stab the ocean and take seashells as war trophies because he was mad at Neptune. Ponce de Leon is a Spanish explorer often credited for searching for the Fountain of Youth at one point in his journeys. Whether such a thing was something he really did or not, you can see how that kind of story would fit into this song about a man trying to hang on to his youth and glory.
Caligula means, "little nail" in Latin I believe. I read he (Caligula) got the nickname because he was a child when he started hanging out with the Roman soldiers. But it's definitely a reference to the band's debauchery over the decades.
Well, to nitpick. He was Gaius Julius Caesar, but not THE Gaius Julius Caesar. He was just named after him. Caligulas full name was Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus.
I honestly, and just recently, realized I was doing the same. Justin Chancellor is one of THEE MOST underrated musicians ever. I love him. And his air humping. And his beard. 🖤🖖🏿🤘🏽🎧
I retired from the military somewhat sooner than I had wanted, and boy did this song hit me when it came out a few years later. BTW, Maynard spent 3 years in the Army, and while he declined a competitively earned appointment to West Point to pursue his music career, he surely has a warrior's heart.
The lyrics and music make me feel tiger vibes. The bass gets all elastic 3/4 the way through like a tigers loose slinky movement. Like he is going in for the kill to remain......❤ Time is a tiger stalking us until we are no more.
Bold suggestion here....but once you've finished reacting to this album, find the time to sit down and listen to it as a whole. On your own, front to back, Fear Inoculum to 7empest....without feeling any need to react to it. Just experience the flow they're creating as a single composition. As a matter of fact, I suggest this with all of their albums. Thanks again for riding the spiral with us, Skullz. Oh, and you forgot your shirt this time 😉
I think the longer a person has lived, the more this song resonates. It's a recognition of, an acceptance of and a middle finger to the process of aging all at once. I think it's a masterpiece but only with the right perspective.
What feels off as I’m turning 30 next year. I already feel it hitting really heavy. Invincible is the track that keeps on giving, the whole thing is a literal journey.
I agree. I don’t think it’s about just a band wanting to be on top. We all feel like this, even if you haven’t accomplished great feats. All of us eventually feel the time bearing down at some point 🫤
This song for me is a grower. I liked it originally just fine, but each time I listen to it it sinks it’s teeth in a bit deeper. It resonates more…. Of course I am old and stubborn so maybe it took a bit for me to realize the story I was supposed to experience… I was young and could do anything. I aged and things got complicated. Those complications of life wore me down. And beat me. And beat me. That’s the middle section to me. And they kept beating me. And that’s fine. I am not just what I am now, I am also what I was before. And what I have yet to become. Do I succumb to the beating of time, or do I pick the shield up an fight again? I may not be able to physically do what 20 year old me could. But the effects of time on the body are not everything. I could choose to chase apparitions that promise to stave off the relentless March of time, or I can accept that physically it’s impossible, while also realizing that it isn’t the body that is best at getting you through the battle of life - it’s your spirit. Do you give up because you’ve changed, or do you persist because you have changed. I would like to think I persist.
The “tears in my eyes” section at the end is straight up one of the best written verses in music ever. So filled with hope he could taste mythical fountains, after the Ponce de Leon fountain of youth reference is just so brilliantly worded. And yeah this song hits different when you know what to expect and you’re in a kind of mood to relax to this track. Once you know the vibe of each song without expecting something, each track gets better on this album. Can’t wait for the next three weeks! Also, recommend doing chocolate chip trip in same video as 7empest
Classic! Damn! Tool! ALWAYS a journey! Song starts you off slow and melodic and next thing you know, it's 9 minutes later and they are melting your damn face off!
Litanie contre la Peur interestingly is a musical palindrome, it’s the same when played backwards and forwards. The words from the litany in Dune also talk about facing your fear, letting it pass over and through you, and then turning your inner eye to see it after it has passed.
I hear this as an Epic. The “invincible” warrior never turning away from a battle but worn down and having lost his purpose. He then finds his fountain of youth and his fire rekindled to push forward again into battle.
My first listen I came out clearly loving Pneuma, Culling Voices, and Decending. Within about 2 more playthroughs, I loved every song and couldn't put this album down for months.
When this album came out, I was in a pretty bad spot in life & decided to talk to a therapist. In one session, he gave me a form with multiple choice questions about my feelings, mood, etc. Instead of answering the questions, I wrote out the lyrics to this song on the back of the form & gave it to him the following week. He read the lyrics during that session, & the next session, he told me he had listened to it & better understood what I was dealing with. Needless to say, this song hits me hard every time I hear it.
That's the beginning of the 7 over 3 polyrhythm found throughout most of the song! Watch synced drum sheet music here: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
I noticed in 6:46 to 7:09 that the song starts to sound kind of like a clock or time passing, I feel like this was intentional because the song is about just getting older and remembering the past
This song to me has multiple levels of interpretation 1-It's literally the musical embodiement of an ancient battle seen from the point of view of a veteran fighter's emotions 2- It's a metaphor of the struggles we all face everyday's life, becoming harder as you get older and you face new battles 3- and in particular of the struggles of Maynard and the band, having to keep performing perfectly and deliver after so many years of absence from the stages. Maynard, in the specific, struggles with his voice today and isn't able to perform the same crazy screams as he used to The images my brain creates while listening generate this sequence: 5:19 the veteran warrior is still in its tent, putting his armor, reflecting about his past battles and the fact that he has to face yet a new one 11:00 the warrior is finally armored up, leaves his tent and reaches the rest of the army lines in formation. Same taughts cross his mind... The army starts marching against the enemy 13:17 enemy army is in sight. Tension arises 16:08 the order is given, ranks start marching in close formation, arrows start to fly over their head, people start dying. Our warrior has the last reflections before the clash 19:24 the clash. Our warrior starts swinging and killing enemies. Not much time to think 20:43 the battle is over. The warrior has survived this one too. He starts crying to raugh out his emotions ps: skullz, this is the album you'll end up loving the most
No one has mentioned it yet, but the lyrics reference to, "Ponce de Leon, and his fathom source;" is about the Spanish explorer, Ponce de Leon, who sailed to the Americas in search of the "Fountain of Youth". A mythical source of eternal life. He landed off the eastern coast of southern Florida, around St Petersburg FL.
I think it was near St Augustine FL? I took a tour there once and the tour guide showed us the fountain if I remember correctly. It was 20+ years ago. Also remember something about a fort wall covered in sharp seashells. Soldiers feared it cuz back then to take the fort enemies would have to climb the wall cutting themselves mercilessly on seashells and the wounds would get infected causing many of them to die a painful death or lose limbs. St. Augustine was a very cool city to tour. It’s said to be the oldest city in the U.S. Like 1600’s or something. Not all of what I mention may be 100% accurate but these memories stuck with me for 20+ years. Also why I like this song so much.
@@weshokpai somehow it becomes even more relevant to the song knowing that, since refusing to face and admit the fact that you're aging and getting weaker can be described as foolish. (Ik im reaching out and it most likely wasnt meant that way but I like it)
Over time as I’ve lived with this album this song has slowly become my favorite on the album and in my top 10 overall by them. It just gets better and better
This song is definitely a grower. Heck, the whole album is a grower imo. It really ages like a fine wine, getting better with every listen…atleast that has been my experience upon repeat listens.
I’ve seen Tool many times, as each time seeing them live is like a religious experience for me. Simply incredible. They are grand masters of their craft
They are the ones that complained when they announced this album was finally coming out, saying it would be filled with filler tracks with weird noises and bird sounds. My guess is, that's where the song Mockingbeat came from 😂
As an almost 54 year old rocker, this song means so much to me. If you are a 'Youngin', you will feel the same when you are a tab bit older. I love James' lyrics. Tool songs are just his rhythmic poetry in action.
Right there with you in two. I'm a 54 rocker etc. Tool, Chris Cornell, Zappa, Jane's Addiction, Mike Patton, Wayne Static (to name a few) all keep me inspired to never stop making music
It does take a while for the songs on this album to grow on you but once they do it’s all you want to listen too.. at least for it was for like 2 years straight lol
Yo Skullz, definitely take this one in as it’s a grower. Agreed that watching this one live will give you another appreciation. Justin bangs his chest the first time Maynard says “bold and proud”, the mid section of the guitar distortion sound is actually Justin as well. When the war drum beats come to a climax at the end, Adam and Justin are playing close up in front of Danny and then drift apart again, amazing. It’s one of my favs, very powerful… much love bro
It's definitely a grower. That middle section...I could listen to it for 5 hours straight waiting for the drop! But I remember it wasn't like this from the beginning... I didn't love the song at the first listen, since I put it on my radio while I was going back home by night and I just got stuck into that middle part...I had to stop the car to replay it, I was just amazed and head banging the whole time. Now I consider it to be definitely the top of the album together with Descending.
Every band member has a chance to shine in this album. It’s Pneuma for Danny, 7empest for Adam, and Decending for Justin. Personally I think this is Maynard’s track. Edit: This comment somehow triggered people. Lol
Skullz, have you seen all the projects Maynard is involved in?!?! Puscifer, A Perfect Circle, Caduceus Cellars, his record store, his restaurants, and still finds time for Ju jitsu!! The man is a machine 💪
That was a brilliant observation on your part about the second half of the song slowing down, kind of mimicking old age, that never occurred to me. Then I got goosebumps contemplating that thought up against what I knew was coming! The last 1/3 or so of this song makes me want to calculate polyrhythms in a mosh pit😂! I read in Rolling Stone of maybe a different mag that interview Maynard around the time the album was releasing. He said this album will take multiple listens for it to be fully appreciated. He said the band has matured into their older years and this is the result, a more mature album. He also said this album sounds as good now as it did in 2011. They were sitting on this release for a long time due to multiple issues, mostly legal issues though. Great review, perhaps your most insightful!
You know, I had never thought about that riff being basically the same is Jambi's. You're right about that slowing-down feeling and it adds another layer to this song I hadn't considered.
I feel like that about the middle section of most songs on this album - except this one lol. That bass solo - its tone, its little nuances, its timing, the way it perfectly leads into that polyrythm where the drums start playing mostly 4/4 over the 7/8 is brilliant. This song as a whole is easily my favorites of all their songs, and the only one on this album I can honestly say that for. Tool captured something truly magical on Aenima, Lateralus and 10k Days - this whole album feels like a celebration of that magic long after the fact. Which is beautiful and poignant, yet just not quite the same. And that's fine, and to be expected. I am thoroughly impressed with and love this album. But relative to those other 3, it doesn't have the same magic. 💚🙏
@@robfrawley that's an excellent transcription thanks. I dunno how you're then interpreting it as a 7 over 3 polyrythm though? Can you elaborate on what you mean? The band as a whole moves through several polyrythms throughout (that part where the guitar and bass drift from each other and line back up is amazing), but Danny it looks and sounds to me is in straight 7s. Except for that bridge which does change to 4/4 3x with an additional two beats. So yeah it's still technically in 7 but it obviously feels like the percussion is now in 4s while the guitars continue chugging the obvious 7.
@@OhOkayThenLazySusan "Can you elaborate on what you mean?" Sure! It's seven equally spaced notes that resolves over three bars of 7/16. Hence, 7 over 3 polyrythm. ;-) The pattern starts with the Mandala pattern at th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html. He continues that pattern in the main groove of the first half of the song. Check out the diamond noteheads (representing a Korg WD-1) at the following point in the song th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html - they continue this same polyrythm. Later in the track, check out the tom accents throughout this section: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html - same polyrythm again. Again here, with the diamond noteheads for the Korg WD-1: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html. Again here, with the ride cymbal bell hits: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html. Drumeo has a good breakdown of the main groove here: th-cam.com/video/tLvxWix_Pzw/w-d-xo.html
@@robfrawley I understand what you mean, though I personally wouldn't think of that as a polyrythm . . . just an odd number measures of 7. But over 16 I can see your perspective. Thanks for clarifying and sharing the links.
@@OhOkayThenLazySusan Definitionally, a polyrhythm is simply the simultaneous use of two or more rhythms that are not readily perceived as deriving from one another. 🙂 Perhaps this breakdown will better exemplify the polyrhythms in Invincible: th-cam.com/video/8-HEDFuiOfg/w-d-xo.html. In that video I break apart the two rhythms and then combine them again. The first example from that video is what Danny is playing at th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html The second example from that video is what Danny is playing at th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html The fact that the meter is one over 16 isn't fundamental. If you want to count the song in 7/8, the polyrhythm would still exist, just in a different ratio. Hopefully, that helps provide a better explanation! All the best.
Woah, I wrote you an essay but left out: when you check out Bloodywood Dana Dan 1. It is India 🇮🇳 folk metal, 2. Closed caption is required for translation. 3. A seat belt + helmet. (Don't want to make a mess)
At the age of 45, this one hits pretty hard. One gets used to the balance between the time it takes to maintain your health vs. the time it takes to maintain the ageless hustle modern culture praises. “Victory” becomes harder to achieve as you compete against younger people. The growth of wisdom begs you to continue to evolve even as it, in time, reflects an element of desperation as we become more conscious of our movement into the Autumn of our lives.
@@jakecameron2976 idioteque is Radioheads tribute to Aphex Twins style of broken beats. If you don't know aphex twin, check out "window licker" and you will feel the resemblance
So, Ponce De Leon and Caligula were both historical figures from the ancient Roman times, if I remember correctly. So it kinda like Janmbi, in that Maynard is comparing himself to an old king. Kinda. I also think it's fucking awesome that Maynard has rolled with the Diaz bros more than a few times and might be thinking of them a little bit in this song lol
This is one of my all time favourite Tool songs period. 1 of only 2 songs on this album I can listen to often. The last 3 or 4 minutes of this song are just nuts. So good
This song is a love letter to 7/4 timing. Pulses of 4 and 3 with polyrhythms in 3 or 4 on top. The rhythmic work is nothing short of stellar. 1234,123. Then switches at parts to 123,1234. Killer.
The song is about the band itself. The part about Ponce de León he was a Spanish explorer who was searching for the fountain of youth. The more you listen to this the more you'll love it. This is what they finished the last tour for this album.
Thanks for the scatter brain intro Skullz. When we're getting ourselves ready for a new experience we have no knowledge of our reference points. Without these it is difficult to feel grounded. Thus, being scatter brained is a reasonable starting place. Your responses are why we're here - thank you.
This song is the one that Maynard allows fans to record when live...so theres some gorgeous vids on youtube of this live. Also....im getting giddy for Descending and Culling Voices.
Oh you’re really let me down on this one!!! if you don’t understand one of the lyrics you want to look it up. the Ponce de Leon lyric is crucial to the understanding of this song. I can’t explain to you enough how important it is to look up a lyric if you don’t know what it is. you know Maynard is not putting that in there for no reason, so Ponce de Leon was looking for the fountain of youth! the concept of the fountain of youth is crucial to understanding the song I really hope you bring it up in your next reaction how much that affects the song. Love ya man
Spot on, Skullz! Calling out two things-ageism. Not against you, but as part of the natural theme of the song. I’m a only a few years younger than the band members, so “growing up” with the band and thinking of my past younger Invincible self hits me pretty hard. Sometimes it’s hard to get up for work and battle and be as brilliant as I was in my 20s takes everything. Tempo-Warrior… Struggling… to remain… Consequental. They’re kind of on the nose with the song’s journey. If this was a scene in the gladiator pits you know how the scene plays out. I think the hero may have died at the end of there weren’t more songs to go. This whole album took over a year to grow on me. A lot of sfx and slower tempo so far. But this is a risk/direction Tool has to take. p.s. don’t sleep on the cymbal work here. Danny’s choices, tone, and mix… the attack and decay are so juicy!
This whole album is much more of a grower than previous albums. there's so many subtle intricacies in each song, that get better and better as you delve deeper into it.
This album scared me the first 20-30 listen throughs, I was starting to think I didn't really like it all that much then one day it just clicked and I became so obsessed I literally couldn't stop listening to it, I had it going on when I slept, so much so my Spotify recap showed me as .03 % of most played time for Tool that year. I don't know man, this album was hard to digest at first now it's my all time favorite.
Man, gonna be so bummed when you're done with Toolsday. Whatcha know about some Mars Volta? I'd watch you go thru their albums from the beginning. Mars Volta Martes;]
![Adam WENT OFF!!! ~ TOOL - Descending ~ [REACTION!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dspk16oQlp4/mqdefault.jpg)
![Adam WENT OFF!!! ~ TOOL - Descending ~ [REACTION!]](/img/tr.png)
![KILL THE EGO! ~ TOOL - Culling Voices ~ [REACTION!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lzPUpVrVqac/mqdefault.jpg)
![[#2024MAMA] G-DRAGON - 무제(Untitled, 2014)+POWER+HOME SWEET HOME+뱅뱅뱅+FANTASTIC BABY | Mnet 241123 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ox29z5Nf1Uk/mqdefault.jpg)
![FIRST TIME LISTENING: TOOL - AENEMA [REACTION!]](/img/n.gif)
I just released my active drum transcription of Invincible, where you can follow along with the synced drum sheet music. I love Danny Carey's 7 over 3 polyrhythm throughout the song! Watch here: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
The older you get the more this song resonates.
Totally agree. Just commented before I replied to yours. This song is a reflection conjurer.
As a 60 year old US Marine, hang glider pilot, IT guy, this song resonates on all frequencies, and I am certainly feeling time bearing down.
100%.
This song has become my anthem in my old age especially as my body breaks down more and more. When I was young, I was 10 feet tall and bullet proof, and now I am paying for it!
And don't forget, the average age of the members of TOOL when this album came out, is 60 years old...
Caligula is not Julius Caesar. Caligula was an emperor of Rome who was known for his hedonism and outright insanity. He opened a brothel in his palace, and had people work it who were questionable even for his time. And there are tales of him ordering soldiers down to the beach to stab the ocean and take seashells as war trophies because he was mad at Neptune.
Ponce de Leon is a Spanish explorer often credited for searching for the Fountain of Youth at one point in his journeys. Whether such a thing was something he really did or not, you can see how that kind of story would fit into this song about a man trying to hang on to his youth and glory.
Came to the comments for this very statement. You nailed it.
Caligula means, "little nail" in Latin I believe. I read he (Caligula) got the nickname because he was a child when he started hanging out with the Roman soldiers. But it's definitely a reference to the band's debauchery over the decades.
Well, to nitpick. He was Gaius Julius Caesar, but not THE Gaius Julius Caesar. He was just named after him. Caligulas full name was Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus.
Thanks for leaving this comment so we don't have to;]
@@johnfarley4492 Little boots.. he wore little boots as a kid and he was named after it
Nobody ever mentions Justin’s bass solos, I think people can’t tell. They are high pitched
Is was gonna say the same thing
I like the way his solo sounds better live. Tends to be more clear and it seems like he’s got it down more on the fade out part
I honestly, and just recently, realized I was doing the same. Justin Chancellor is one of THEE MOST underrated musicians ever. I love him. And his air humping. And his beard. 🖤🖖🏿🤘🏽🎧
It’s funny to see how many folks focus on Adam during Justin’s solo in all of the Invincible videos.
His bass line in the first act and again during the synth part are among my top favorites
Jambi sounds for sure, but what a masterpiece. Top 5 Tool songs for me. (At least today)
That "middle boring part" is my favorite. You can feel the weight coming down. Feels like a death march.
I retired from the military somewhat sooner than I had wanted, and boy did this song hit me when it came out a few years later. BTW, Maynard spent 3 years in the Army, and while he declined a competitively earned appointment to West Point to pursue his music career, he surely has a warrior's heart.
The lyrics and music make me feel tiger vibes. The bass gets all elastic 3/4 the way through like a tigers loose slinky movement. Like he is going in for the kill to remain......❤ Time is a tiger stalking us until we are no more.
Bold suggestion here....but once you've finished reacting to this album, find the time to sit down and listen to it as a whole. On your own, front to back, Fear Inoculum to 7empest....without feeling any need to react to it. Just experience the flow they're creating as a single composition.
As a matter of fact, I suggest this with all of their albums. Thanks again for riding the spiral with us, Skullz.
Oh, and you forgot your shirt this time 😉
14:10 "tripping through remember whens"
Old = reminiscing
I love how this song sounds like it’s ending so many different times…then picks up in a new way.
It’s like a 10 course sonic meal.
this
Invincible is such an underrated masterpiece. I have nothing else to say.
I think the longer a person has lived, the more this song resonates. It's a recognition of, an acceptance of and a middle finger to the process of aging all at once. I think it's a masterpiece but only with the right perspective.
What feels off as I’m turning 30 next year. I already feel it hitting really heavy. Invincible is the track that keeps on giving, the whole thing is a literal journey.
I agree. I don’t think it’s about just a band wanting to be on top. We all feel like this, even if you haven’t accomplished great feats. All of us eventually feel the time bearing down at some point 🫤
I love you for this.... you're patient and willing to still listen
This song for me is a grower. I liked it originally just fine, but each time I listen to it it sinks it’s teeth in a bit deeper. It resonates more…. Of course I am old and stubborn so maybe it took a bit for me to realize the story I was supposed to experience…
I was young and could do anything. I aged and things got complicated. Those complications of life wore me down. And beat me. And beat me. That’s the middle section to me. And they kept beating me.
And that’s fine. I am not just what I am now, I am also what I was before.
And what I have yet to become. Do I succumb to the beating of time, or do I pick the shield up an fight again?
I may not be able to physically do what 20 year old me could. But the effects of time on the body are not everything. I could choose to chase apparitions that promise to stave off the relentless March of time, or I can accept that physically it’s impossible, while also realizing that it isn’t the body that is best at getting you through the battle of life - it’s your spirit.
Do you give up because you’ve changed, or do you persist because you have changed. I would like to think I persist.
This is awsome
Well said. At 48 my body isn't at peak ability anymore, but my mind just keeps getting stronger.
The “tears in my eyes” section at the end is straight up one of the best written verses in music ever. So filled with hope he could taste mythical fountains, after the Ponce de Leon fountain of youth reference is just so brilliantly worded. And yeah this song hits different when you know what to expect and you’re in a kind of mood to relax to this track. Once you know the vibe of each song without expecting something, each track gets better on this album. Can’t wait for the next three weeks! Also, recommend doing chocolate chip trip in same video as 7empest
Fucking nailed it brother
Chocolate chip with cookies ‘n cream
Who the hell is ponce de leon
Second part of the song is actually speeding up. And that transition sounds like reversing back time. Spiral out!
Classic! Damn! Tool! ALWAYS a journey! Song starts you off slow and melodic and next thing you know, it's 9 minutes later and they are melting your damn face off!
Litanie contre la Peur interestingly is a musical palindrome, it’s the same when played backwards and forwards. The words from the litany in Dune also talk about facing your fear, letting it pass over and through you, and then turning your inner eye to see it after it has passed.
thats interesting, thank you I hadn't realized that. definitely makes me appreciate it a little more
What? Tool is insanely awesome;]
I hear this as an Epic. The “invincible” warrior never turning away from a battle but worn down and having lost his purpose. He then finds his fountain of youth and his fire rekindled to push forward again into battle.
My first listen I came out clearly loving Pneuma, Culling Voices, and Decending. Within about 2 more playthroughs, I loved every song and couldn't put this album down for months.
That is Justin n the bass. Awesome guy
When this album came out, I was in a pretty bad spot in life & decided to talk to a therapist. In one session, he gave me a form with multiple choice questions about my feelings, mood, etc. Instead of answering the questions, I wrote out the lyrics to this song on the back of the form & gave it to him the following week.
He read the lyrics during that session, & the next session, he told me he had listened to it & better understood what I was dealing with.
Needless to say, this song hits me hard every time I hear it.
Danny’s intro sounds like a ticking clock. Which would seem to match the theme.
That's the beginning of the 7 over 3 polyrhythm found throughout most of the song! Watch synced drum sheet music here: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
I noticed in 6:46 to 7:09 that the song starts to sound kind of like a clock or time passing, I feel like this was intentional because the song is about just getting older and remembering the past
This song to me has multiple levels of interpretation
1-It's literally the musical embodiement of an ancient battle seen from the point of view of a veteran fighter's emotions
2- It's a metaphor of the struggles we all face everyday's life, becoming harder as you get older and you face new battles
3- and in particular of the struggles of Maynard and the band, having to keep performing perfectly and deliver after so many years of absence from the stages. Maynard, in the specific, struggles with his voice today and isn't able to perform the same crazy screams as he used to
The images my brain creates while listening generate this sequence:
5:19 the veteran warrior is still in its tent, putting his armor, reflecting about his past battles and the fact that he has to face yet a new one
11:00 the warrior is finally armored up, leaves his tent and reaches the rest of the army lines in formation. Same taughts cross his mind... The army starts marching against the enemy
13:17 enemy army is in sight. Tension arises
16:08 the order is given, ranks start marching in close formation, arrows start to fly over their head, people start dying. Our warrior has the last reflections before the clash
19:24 the clash. Our warrior starts swinging and killing enemies. Not much time to think
20:43 the battle is over. The warrior has survived this one too. He starts crying to raugh out his emotions
ps: skullz, this is the album you'll end up loving the most
The battle march sections in this song are so good 🤘
No one has mentioned it yet, but the lyrics reference to, "Ponce de Leon, and his fathom source;" is about the Spanish explorer, Ponce de Leon, who sailed to the Americas in search of the "Fountain of Youth". A mythical source of eternal life. He landed off the eastern coast of southern Florida, around St Petersburg FL.
It was supposed to be on the island of Sanibel.
I think it was near St Augustine FL? I took a tour there once and the tour guide showed us the fountain if I remember correctly. It was 20+ years ago. Also remember something about a fort wall covered in sharp seashells. Soldiers feared it cuz back then to take the fort enemies would have to climb the wall cutting themselves mercilessly on seashells and the wounds would get infected causing many of them to die a painful death or lose limbs. St. Augustine was a very cool city to tour. It’s said to be the oldest city in the U.S. Like 1600’s or something. Not all of what I mention may be 100% accurate but these memories stuck with me for 20+ years. Also why I like this song so much.
It's "Ponce De Leon's phantom, so ..." on the lyrics and yeah its the spaniard that was looking for the fountain of youth.
@@weshokpai somehow it becomes even more relevant to the song knowing that, since refusing to face and admit the fact that you're aging and getting weaker can be described as foolish. (Ik im reaching out and it most likely wasnt meant that way but I like it)
@@weshokpai Ah, even 'ol Ponce had the competition dissing on him! Very funny. Thx man.
Over time as I’ve lived with this album this song has slowly become my favorite on the album and in my top 10 overall by them. It just gets better and better
This song is the definition of epic!
This song is definitely a grower. Heck, the whole album is a grower imo. It really ages like a fine wine, getting better with every listen…atleast that has been my experience upon repeat listens.
This album is a slow burn for sure. But man, when it gets hot, it burns bright!
Honestly I've only listened to this song so far like 65 times
Seeing the songs from this album played live really highlighted how technically brilliant they are. Tool live are another level
I’ve seen Tool many times, as each time seeing them live is like a religious experience for me. Simply incredible. They are grand masters of their craft
You just added to the hype for me. Seeing them for the first time on November 1st in Milwaukee! I can't wait!!!!
That riff between 21:05-21:26 is one of my very favorites in all of Tool's work. Epic!
yes..very motivating riff..
You are awesome, Skullz. Thanks for being such a great human.
This and Decending are easily the best songs on the album for me.
I could listen to that breakdown groove all day
Typical PHENOMENAL TOOL interlude!!!!!!! F’N LOVE IT!!!!
This album is definitely their most cinematic and I enjoyed it best creating a story in my head for the songs.
F those ppl who said skip it. Not fans. Good song. Glad it has segues on digital release that aren’t on the physical album itself.
They are the ones that complained when they announced this album was finally coming out, saying it would be filled with filler tracks with weird noises and bird sounds. My guess is, that's where the song Mockingbeat came from 😂
And yes that is JC in that solo!!!! PHENOMENAL!!!!
Funny Radiohead came up. Tool and Radiohead were my first live shows back in '97 during my "Younger and More Vulnerable Years."
As an almost 54 year old rocker, this song means so much to me. If you are a 'Youngin', you will feel the same when you are a tab bit older. I love James' lyrics. Tool songs are just his rhythmic poetry in action.
Right there with you in two. I'm a 54 rocker etc. Tool, Chris Cornell, Zappa, Jane's Addiction, Mike Patton, Wayne Static (to name a few) all keep me inspired to never stop making music
This song makes me ugly cry and cry aloud;); gawd it hits so hard. I can't wait to watch you experience this incredible piece of art!
This track was a grower for me, and so was culling voices. But when I got there i loved soaking in every measure.
It does take a while for the songs on this album to grow on you but once they do it’s all you want to listen too.. at least for it was for like 2 years straight lol
I'm psyched !
So busy I forgot it was Tuesday, so now I'm happy!
Definitely in my top 3 on this album, maybe #1...
Yo Skullz, definitely take this one in as it’s a grower. Agreed that watching this one live will give you another appreciation. Justin bangs his chest the first time Maynard says “bold and proud”, the mid section of the guitar distortion sound is actually Justin as well. When the war drum beats come to a climax at the end, Adam and Justin are playing close up in front of Danny and then drift apart again, amazing. It’s one of my favs, very powerful… much love bro
This song hit me hard as I get a bit older. The more I listen to it, the more it affects me.
It's definitely a grower. That middle section...I could listen to it for 5 hours straight waiting for the drop!
But I remember it wasn't like this from the beginning... I didn't love the song at the first listen, since I put it on my radio while I was going back home by night and I just got stuck into that middle part...I had to stop the car to replay it, I was just amazed and head banging the whole time.
Now I consider it to be definitely the top of the album together with Descending.
You’ll truly appreciate this song when you hit 50 years old (give or take a few years)
This is my favorite song since albums release. Ponce de Leon fountain of youth. He was old but still had a one hitter quitter in him!
Every band member has a chance to shine in this album. It’s Pneuma for Danny, 7empest for Adam, and Decending for Justin. Personally I think this is Maynard’s track.
Edit: This comment somehow triggered people. Lol
culling voices is Maynard track too though
This is Danny's as well...shit the entire album is all Danny's with the others taking point alongside him for the respective songs you mentioned.
I feel differently about that culling imo is Maynard’s track and I think descending is adams and this one is Justin’s also Danny’s is penuma
Maybe the best to sing to, fear as well.
100% - I'd like to add that I think they all support each other like no other. They enhance each other's talents like no other. If that makes sense.
You seeing Jambi similarities to invincible 🤯 not many reactors relate🤦🏼 welcome to the 🛠️T⚙️⚙️L🛠️ Army👊🍻
This was my favorite track first time through the album. Now they’re ending shows with it. It’s perfect.
I got way more into this song after seeing it live, and seeing that the solos are first Justin on the bass, then Danny on a big xylophone type thing
The next song might be the greatest piece of music ever written
Skullz, have you seen all the projects Maynard is involved in?!?! Puscifer, A Perfect Circle, Caduceus Cellars, his record store, his restaurants, and still finds time for Ju jitsu!! The man is a machine 💪
That was a brilliant observation on your part about the second half of the song slowing down, kind of mimicking old age, that never occurred to me. Then I got goosebumps contemplating that thought up against what I knew was coming! The last 1/3 or so of this song makes me want to calculate polyrhythms in a mosh pit😂!
I read in Rolling Stone of maybe a different mag that interview Maynard around the time the album was releasing. He said this album will take multiple listens for it to be fully appreciated. He said the band has matured into their older years and this is the result, a more mature album.
He also said this album sounds as good now as it did in 2011. They were sitting on this release for a long time due to multiple issues, mostly legal issues though. Great review, perhaps your most insightful!
The song didn't slow down - it actually sped up a tiny bit! But because of the time signature, it FEELS slower.
You know, I had never thought about that riff being basically the same is Jambi's. You're right about that slowing-down feeling and it adds another layer to this song I hadn't considered.
I feel like that about the middle section of most songs on this album - except this one lol. That bass solo - its tone, its little nuances, its timing, the way it perfectly leads into that polyrythm where the drums start playing mostly 4/4 over the 7/8 is brilliant. This song as a whole is easily my favorites of all their songs, and the only one on this album I can honestly say that for.
Tool captured something truly magical on Aenima, Lateralus and 10k Days - this whole album feels like a celebration of that magic long after the fact. Which is beautiful and poignant, yet just not quite the same. And that's fine, and to be expected. I am thoroughly impressed with and love this album. But relative to those other 3, it doesn't have the same magic. 💚🙏
Danny is playing a 7 over 3 polyrhythm throughout most of the song. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
@@robfrawley that's an excellent transcription thanks. I dunno how you're then interpreting it as a 7 over 3 polyrythm though? Can you elaborate on what you mean?
The band as a whole moves through several polyrythms throughout (that part where the guitar and bass drift from each other and line back up is amazing), but Danny it looks and sounds to me is in straight 7s. Except for that bridge which does change to 4/4 3x with an additional two beats. So yeah it's still technically in 7 but it obviously feels like the percussion is now in 4s while the guitars continue chugging the obvious 7.
@@OhOkayThenLazySusan "Can you elaborate on what you mean?" Sure! It's seven equally spaced notes that resolves over three bars of 7/16. Hence, 7 over 3 polyrythm. ;-) The pattern starts with the Mandala pattern at th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html.
He continues that pattern in the main groove of the first half of the song. Check out the diamond noteheads (representing a Korg WD-1) at the following point in the song th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html - they continue this same polyrythm.
Later in the track, check out the tom accents throughout this section: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html - same polyrythm again. Again here, with the diamond noteheads for the Korg WD-1: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html. Again here, with the ride cymbal bell hits: th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html.
Drumeo has a good breakdown of the main groove here: th-cam.com/video/tLvxWix_Pzw/w-d-xo.html
@@robfrawley I understand what you mean, though I personally wouldn't think of that as a polyrythm . . . just an odd number measures of 7. But over 16 I can see your perspective. Thanks for clarifying and sharing the links.
@@OhOkayThenLazySusan Definitionally, a polyrhythm is simply the simultaneous use of two or more rhythms that are not readily perceived as deriving from one another. 🙂 Perhaps this breakdown will better exemplify the polyrhythms in Invincible: th-cam.com/video/8-HEDFuiOfg/w-d-xo.html. In that video I break apart the two rhythms and then combine them again.
The first example from that video is what Danny is playing at th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
The second example from that video is what Danny is playing at th-cam.com/video/I8iqbeVnndU/w-d-xo.html
The fact that the meter is one over 16 isn't fundamental. If you want to count the song in 7/8, the polyrhythm would still exist, just in a different ratio.
Hopefully, that helps provide a better explanation! All the best.
Woah, I wrote you an essay but left out: when you check out Bloodywood Dana Dan 1. It is India 🇮🇳 folk metal, 2. Closed caption is required for translation. 3. A seat belt + helmet. (Don't want to make a mess)
At the age of 45, this one hits pretty hard. One gets used to the balance between the time it takes to maintain your health vs. the time it takes to maintain the ageless hustle modern culture praises. “Victory” becomes harder to achieve as you compete against younger people. The growth of wisdom begs you to continue to evolve even as it, in time, reflects an element of desperation as we become more conscious of our movement into the Autumn of our lives.
danny’s odd bit at the beginning was meant to sound like a ticking clock
The learn to swim stamp got me
Huge Radiohead fan here: If you ever wanted to do a song by song breakdown of their discography... I'd be in 1000%
What’s the name of that song Idiotech? Man I love that song.
@@jakecameron2976 idioteque is Radioheads tribute to Aphex Twins style of broken beats. If you don't know aphex twin, check out "window licker" and you will feel the resemblance
I’m really into the song Codex right now
@@bwhotwing411 I’ll check it out
I'm so HAPPY that you are EXPERIENCING the ENTIRE ALBUM. ✌
Invincible is actually my favorite track on the album as I relate to it very much.
It's actually grown on me quite a bit! This album so far is very reflective and the songs seem to hit harder upon further reflection 💯
So, Ponce De Leon and Caligula were both historical figures from the ancient Roman times, if I remember correctly. So it kinda like Janmbi, in that Maynard is comparing himself to an old king. Kinda. I also think it's fucking awesome that Maynard has rolled with the Diaz bros more than a few times and might be thinking of them a little bit in this song lol
My favorite!! I have waited your whole journey for this one. ❤️
Love the honesty, Skullz. It will definitely grow on you, just a few more listens. 🙂🌀
Caligula would grin at this upcoming reaction. 🥴
Being a man of a certain age, the lyrics are of particular poignancy.
This is one of my favorites😌🙏
Go see TOOL live. An amazing experience. I saw them perform at Tons of Rock in Oslo, and it was out of this world.. holy..🤟
This is one of my all time favourite Tool songs period. 1 of only 2 songs on this album I can listen to often. The last 3 or 4 minutes of this song are just nuts. So good
This song is a love letter to 7/4 timing. Pulses of 4 and 3 with polyrhythms in 3 or 4 on top. The rhythmic work is nothing short of stellar. 1234,123. Then switches at parts to 123,1234. Killer.
When you see them live… glory days are now..
The song is about the band itself. The part about Ponce de León he was a Spanish explorer who was searching for the fountain of youth. The more you listen to this the more you'll love it. This is what they finished the last tour for this album.
The live show on this tour was as good as it gets. I hope you can see them someday, if you haven't. Descending...oh boy.
"I might be over thinking, over analyzing" I see what you did there.😏
You should react to Tools cover of Zeppelins No Quarter
This is my favourite from this album.
You should check out Soen next. I really think you'll get into their style and tone.
Finally, someone who thought the very same as I did while listening to the intro for the first time: Radiohead. Ha!
Thanks for the scatter brain intro Skullz. When we're getting ourselves ready for a new experience we have no knowledge of our reference points. Without these it is difficult to feel grounded. Thus, being scatter brained is a reasonable starting place. Your responses are why we're here - thank you.
They opened the show with this interlude followed by Fear Inoculum in Tacoma.
This song is the one that Maynard allows fans to record when live...so theres some gorgeous vids on youtube of this live.
Also....im getting giddy for Descending and Culling Voices.
SKULLZ get ready for this one. Weapon out and belly in.
Love the album, Descending is my favorite
Love this absolutely incredible thanku so much for being you amazing great to see you much love and God bless always x
I've been looking forward to this since the first Pneuma reaction!
Ditto!
Oh you’re really let me down on this one!!! if you don’t understand one of the lyrics you want to look it up. the Ponce de Leon lyric is crucial to the understanding of this song. I can’t explain to you enough how important it is to look up a lyric if you don’t know what it is. you know Maynard is not putting that in there for no reason, so Ponce de Leon was looking for the fountain of youth! the concept of the fountain of youth is crucial to understanding the song I really hope you bring it up in your next reaction how much that affects the song. Love ya man
You could just look at the song as a straight forward tale of an of soldier, since Maynard was was a soldier
Spot on, Skullz! Calling out two things-ageism. Not against you, but as part of the natural theme of the song. I’m a only a few years younger than the band members, so “growing up” with the band and thinking of my past younger Invincible self hits me pretty hard. Sometimes it’s hard to get up for work and battle and be as brilliant as I was in my 20s takes everything.
Tempo-Warrior… Struggling… to remain… Consequental. They’re kind of on the nose with the song’s journey. If this was a scene in the gladiator pits you know how the scene plays out. I think the hero may have died at the end of there weren’t more songs to go.
This whole album took over a year to grow on me. A lot of sfx and slower tempo so far. But this is a risk/direction Tool has to take.
p.s. don’t sleep on the cymbal work here. Danny’s choices, tone, and mix… the attack and decay are so juicy!
This whole album is much more of a grower than previous albums. there's so many subtle intricacies in each song, that get better and better as you delve deeper into it.
This album scared me the first 20-30 listen throughs, I was starting to think I didn't really like it all that much then one day it just clicked and I became so obsessed I literally couldn't stop listening to it, I had it going on when I slept, so much so my Spotify recap showed me as .03 % of most played time for Tool that year. I don't know man, this album was hard to digest at first now it's my all time favorite.
Man, gonna be so bummed when you're done with Toolsday. Whatcha know about some Mars Volta? I'd watch you go thru their albums from the beginning. Mars Volta Martes;]
My favorite song of this album. Helped me to march litteraly through endless depressed winter nights.
Invincible is one of my favorites, I love the vocals the most but the riffs are incredible as well. Great reaction bud 👍
Tool and Radiohead are conceptually very similar, only one is Prog Metal, the other is Prog Alternative/Pop
Now that you've heard the song, I suggest you find one of the good quality live videos of this song. Amazing and spectacular.