As a recent new owner of an XP10, some words of advice for anyone looking to use this as a personal phone: The charging light at the top is brighter than you think The volume goes much louder than you expect The phone is very heavy
Thank you so much for the video! It was very educational. No one here at AT&T wants to talk about this phone. I do not understand why the necessity for all the secrecy, but I could be missing something! My XP8 is about ready to die and I do not want to buy a Kiocera!
Very much look forward to your next video on this newest Sonim phone. I have the XP8. Love it, but sure would like a better camera (my only minor complaint with the XP8), so will look forward to hearing more about how the improved camera performs. Keep the great content coming!
The hump on top is not for the antenna -a common misconception , it only houses the indicator LED. The antenna is physically located inside the bottom of the phone.
Ok I'm excited that sonim caught up with the times a little on the tech side, but is the 10 as tough as the 8? My whole family is rocking the 8's and I have some insane battle stories with them coming out on top. The 8 fits our lifestyle for the abuse side of things.
Hi Pete, the 10 is even bit as rugged as the 8. Pretty much the same dimensions and weight. Newer software, more memory, better camera etc. If you liked the 8 you will like the 10.
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy fantastic news. It was a bit of a sacrifice on the tech for the durability, but the strength outweighs the lack of tech. I ran my 8 over on soft ground with a cat D6 dozer one time when it fell out of my vest and it's still trucking to this day. They're just as strong (if not stronger) as the the Casio gzone phones. I can't brag enough on the true durability on them. Thanks for the response.
Hi. The 10 has the same durability rating as the 8 did. I have had my 8 for about 4 years now and am currently putting the 10 through the same lifestyle that the 8 lived and have had no issues.
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy The chipset on XP8 is the same as the XP10. People also think you get a bigger screen with XP10. You dont. The virtual navigation keys actually make XP10's screen the same size as the XP8's screen. So with XP10 you have a bigger phone than XP8, with a screen the same size as XP8. I've dream't of XP8 for years and wont be abusing it.
Bought this to continue using Zello in the field. The PTT is limited and can only be set to open applications. It can not be programmed as a push to talk. My XP3 works perfectly with PTT and the button acts as it's expected. Kind of bummed out. Battery and speakers are nice. Camera leaves a lot to be desired. Thing has potential but I'll be returning mine
How are you liking it so far? I have a Samsung active 8, from 2017. Been holding out hope Samsung would come back with the active series. I love my active. But its is definitely showing its age. I'm looking to upgrade, and leaning towards this one.
So far I am very pleased with it. It is quite a bit heavier than your Samsung but the durability and the warranty will more than offset that. If you aren't quite ready to jump to heavy duty, the Samsung X Cover Pro 6 might be worth a look as well
Yeah, I was looking at the xcover, but havnt heard positive reviews yet. My active is awesome. It got ran over by a snow plow 4 years ago and still keeps kicking. It's just starting to lag down, freeze, and over all just showing her age. Right now it's a toss up between the new xcover 6 or the sonim xp 10.
I went this route. The sonim xp8 has been 10x more durable. Better warranty. i broke multiple active 8s. I've had this thing for ~3-4 years. My only complaint with the xp8 is camera quality.
People say for Samsung the Xcover Pro or Pro 6 but I've had a Xcover Fieldpro for years and is the most rugged Samsung ever, but my XP8 is any Samsung times 100 stronger, don't like the XP10, not much of an upgrade and would rather have the physical buttons than onscreen
I have an iPhone XS I watch TH-cam, use social media etc etc and I want a phone with a replacement bettery I was thinking of the fairphone but I don’t see that coming to the us at this point, in your opinion given listed my current phone would this be an upgrade? Should I wait for something like a sonim xp11 for a nicer screen etc etc.
Hi Bryan! How is the camera on this phone? I own a package delivery company that works with Amazon and if my drivers are going to be using these they'll be snapping hundreds of photos per day to confirm delivery (and many of those will be taken at night/low light). I cannot find any videos reviewing the camera specifically. What are your thoughts?
How securely does the back cover stay? Because my current phone also only has screws on the bottom and unfortunately after dropping it a few times the top part doesn't stay all the way down/sealed. I feel this issue could easily have been avoided if the top part had 2 screws too. Please let me know as I'm looking at buying it, but don't want to spend my money on it if it has the same issue.
FM RADIO is an accessory or was an accessory per the provided documentation offered by Sonim for the XP8800. The attached HEADSET was stated to be needed for the XP-8800. I had no success in finding the source for this in the past efforts. Perhaps the XP-10 will also be compatible for FM RADIO reception. This attachment would include an antenna. Could this be a false hope for those who would perhaps enjoy this feature?
Hi. The 8 had FM Radio but you needed to buy an adaptor to plug in a headset. The 10 uses the same adaptor but unfortunately FM is not offered as a feature.
Does the XP10 have less sensitive ptt/ermergency/camera buttons, or are they at least recessed a bit? I have had the '8 now for four years, and still cant pick it up without triggering something. PTT delay does little good when the phone is stuffed in a pocket or backpack with something up against the the button.
They are slightly recessed and there is a setting under "Programmable keys" which allows you to set a delay time for which you must hold the key before it acts.
Hi Curtis, This phone is not capable of 5 G transmissions. There is no way to upgrade it to handles this feature. You may want to consider upgrading to the XP10 if it is important to you.
Any idea if bell will be getting the phone as well I know you mentioned Telus , but I still haven't been able to find anything on their websites about the phone or a price of it?
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy 😊I SEE.😊 Canada 🍁 providers are sparce in this regard. May I suggest Fairphone 5 a wonderful device with a LOT of updates for 5 years. 😊
The phone is built for a worldwide market. It makes sense that they would create one hardware platform and then customize it with software. From a network perspective I am not sure why none of the Canadian networks support dual sim. They all support eSim but only on certain models. The XP10 is not one of those. In the end it probably comes down to money.
the one thing i wanna know more than all else is what is the processor in this thing i have the xp8 with a snap dragon 600 series i want to know what this has
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy what Is your thought about the overall performance of the device. What phone would you compare to the xp9900 for exemple. Is this a big diffrence from xp8?
@@kakakuriman I really dont understand the reason behind a snapdragon 480. Why not a 4 gen 1 snapdragon instead its already better. Dont think the device would be so much more expensive with a better CPU. Not talking about the fact that sonim release New devices after 4 years... Cant Wait to watch a full test and review video about this phone before i spend 950$+
Hi Paul. It isn't listed yet as it is not officially released yet we are still a couple of weeks away depending on which country you are in. I had an XP7 and an XP8 and now I have the 10. The ruggedness hasn't changed. They just get a bit more refined and more user friendly.
The brass pins are the same size and shape but the bottom edge of the phone looks slightly different. It may or may not fit. The only way to tell is to try it. It's that close.
No it won't work. The Canadian phones are firmedwared to only work with one Sim. If you want to use a two sim version you need to buy it from location where this is supported. You also need to use it on a network that supports dual sim.
"Only" 5Ah is pretty good. It will do 30 hours on phone call from 100% to 0% charge. In my own experience, about 16 hours of general use on and off runs about 40% down. Consider that this is a much more efficient SOC and that the battery is replaceable - You can swap it for a larger type if one becomes available. I see no reason you could not design & 3D print a new back plate to fit even larger batteries than stock in the back if you so desired.
As a recent new owner of an XP10, some words of advice for anyone looking to use this as a personal phone:
The charging light at the top is brighter than you think
The volume goes much louder than you expect
The phone is very heavy
Till now I wasn’t a fan of Sonim devices. But the last two phones xp5+/xp10 really catches my 👀 design ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
As a previous owner of an XP8 and switched to a Samsung S22( big mistake) I can't wait for my new XP10!
Thank you so much for the video! It was very educational.
No one here at AT&T wants to talk about this phone. I do not understand why the necessity for all the secrecy, but I could be missing something! My XP8 is about ready to die and I do not want to buy a Kiocera!
The folks over at att don't know a whole lot about the sonim phones. I had the xp3 and xp8. I had to learn on my own
@@mikedarr7723 I finally got my new XP-10 and am very pleased with it! I hope I get as much "mileage" out of it as I did with the XP--8!
@@lewsilverman9901 sonim does the 3 yr replacement but they only honor the first year themselves. Att does the other two and it's a struggle with them
Very much look forward to your next video on this newest Sonim phone. I have the XP8. Love it, but sure would like a better camera (my only minor complaint with the XP8), so will look forward to hearing more about how the improved camera performs.
Keep the great content coming!
My screen scratched up easy on the XP8, how did yours do?
@@chetmcdonald Mine is now 2 years old, and has scratched up a bit. But not that bad considering how much I've abused it.
The hump on top is not for the antenna -a common misconception , it only houses the indicator LED. The antenna is physically located inside the bottom of the phone.
This could be a rugged alternative to my delicate, battery deprived iPhone 12 mini. Thanks!
Ok I'm excited that sonim caught up with the times a little on the tech side, but is the 10 as tough as the 8? My whole family is rocking the 8's and I have some insane battle stories with them coming out on top. The 8 fits our lifestyle for the abuse side of things.
Hi Pete, the 10 is even bit as rugged as the 8. Pretty much the same dimensions and weight. Newer software, more memory, better camera etc. If you liked the 8 you will like the 10.
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy fantastic news. It was a bit of a sacrifice on the tech for the durability, but the strength outweighs the lack of tech. I ran my 8 over on soft ground with a cat D6 dozer one time when it fell out of my vest and it's still trucking to this day. They're just as strong (if not stronger) as the the Casio gzone phones. I can't brag enough on the true durability on them. Thanks for the response.
Hi. The 10 has the same durability rating as the 8 did. I have had my 8 for about 4 years now and am currently putting the 10 through the same lifestyle that the 8 lived and have had no issues.
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy The chipset on XP8 is the same as the XP10. People also think you get a bigger screen with XP10. You dont. The virtual navigation keys actually make XP10's screen the same size as the XP8's screen. So with XP10 you have a bigger phone than XP8, with a screen the same size as XP8. I've dream't of XP8 for years and wont be abusing it.
Bought this to continue using Zello in the field. The PTT is limited and can only be set to open applications. It can not be programmed as a push to talk. My XP3 works perfectly with PTT and the button acts as it's expected. Kind of bummed out. Battery and speakers are nice. Camera leaves a lot to be desired. Thing has potential but I'll be returning mine
How are you liking it so far? I have a Samsung active 8, from 2017. Been holding out hope Samsung would come back with the active series. I love my active. But its is definitely showing its age. I'm looking to upgrade, and leaning towards this one.
So far I am very pleased with it. It is quite a bit heavier than your Samsung but the durability and the warranty will more than offset that. If you aren't quite ready to jump to heavy duty, the Samsung X Cover Pro 6 might be worth a look as well
Yeah, I was looking at the xcover, but havnt heard positive reviews yet. My active is awesome. It got ran over by a snow plow 4 years ago and still keeps kicking. It's just starting to lag down, freeze, and over all just showing her age. Right now it's a toss up between the new xcover 6 or the sonim xp 10.
I went this route. The sonim xp8 has been 10x more durable. Better warranty. i broke multiple active 8s. I've had this thing for ~3-4 years. My only complaint with the xp8 is camera quality.
People say for Samsung the Xcover Pro or Pro 6 but I've had a Xcover Fieldpro for years and is the most rugged Samsung ever, but my XP8 is any Samsung times 100 stronger, don't like the XP10, not much of an upgrade and would rather have the physical buttons than onscreen
I have an iPhone XS I watch TH-cam, use social media etc etc and I want a phone with a replacement bettery I was thinking of the fairphone but I don’t see that coming to the us at this point, in your opinion given listed my current phone would this be an upgrade? Should I wait for something like a sonim xp11 for a nicer screen etc etc.
FYI!! If you are on ATT FirstNet the XP10 is available for order with a ship date of 11/25-11/28
I have been using these phones for 6 years now absolutely love them! By chance do you know what video it shoots up to?
Hi Tim, The video choices are 720 and 1080P
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy ok cool thank you very much
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy do you know the frame rates?
@@adventuretimefishinghuntingFrame rate is 30 fps according to their website
Hi Bryan! How is the camera on this phone? I own a package delivery company that works with Amazon and if my drivers are going to be using these they'll be snapping hundreds of photos per day to confirm delivery (and many of those will be taken at night/low light). I cannot find any videos reviewing the camera specifically. What are your thoughts?
im still rockn the xp7
You must have alot of patience!😂
You and me both, mate! 7 years and still going strong.
I have had the kyocera duraforce phone for years love it but ATT is not supporting it any longer how does the Sonim XP900 compare
How securely does the back cover stay?
Because my current phone also only has screws on the bottom and unfortunately after dropping it a few times the top part doesn't stay all the way down/sealed.
I feel this issue could easily have been avoided if the top part had 2 screws too.
Please let me know as I'm looking at buying it, but don't want to spend my money on it if it has the same issue.
FM RADIO is an accessory or was an accessory per the provided documentation offered by Sonim for the XP8800. The attached HEADSET was stated to be needed for the XP-8800. I had no success in finding the source for this in the past efforts. Perhaps the XP-10 will also be compatible for FM RADIO reception. This attachment would include an antenna. Could this be a false hope for those who would perhaps enjoy this feature?
Hi. The 8 had FM Radio but you needed to buy an adaptor to plug in a headset. The 10 uses the same adaptor but unfortunately FM is not offered as a feature.
It seems that streaming services like Sirius radio have made including FM a non issue
And that adapter is $50, I used Type-C headphones but don't listin to radio so ?
I hope they fixed the choppy scrolling
My sonim would not update It was255 mg. And my version is 8,1.1 no android 10 update showed up on updates
How do I replace a screen on a 99000
No the battery went from a 4900 to a 5000. Not 6000
Is the camera good? Last couple weren't the best
I was hoping for an actual unboxing..
bluetooth?
Does the XP10 have less sensitive ptt/ermergency/camera buttons, or are they at least recessed a bit? I have had the '8 now for four years, and still cant pick it up without triggering something. PTT delay does little good when the phone is stuffed in a pocket or backpack with something up against the the button.
They are slightly recessed and there is a setting under "Programmable keys" which allows you to set a delay time for which you must hold the key before it acts.
You can program all the buttons to do whatever or nothing I here.
Hey Bryan, is there anyway to mod the xp8 to work on 5g networks for internet and making/receiving calls?
Hi Curtis, This phone is not capable of 5 G transmissions. There is no way to upgrade
it to handles this feature. You may want to consider upgrading to the XP10 if it is important to you.
What version of Android will the XP10 have?
Android 12
i got a xp10 how you put a clock on your cell phone
Any idea if bell will be getting the phone as well I know you mentioned Telus , but I still haven't been able to find anything on their websites about the phone or a price of it?
It hasn't been launched yet. The new best guess is Nov 29th. It will be available on Bell as well
Now finally available on Telus. Not on Bell yet.
Does this phone have a push to talk on it?
Hi 😊 so double SIM works ⚒ on the phone, just not in Canada 🍁? 🤔 😊
Hi, The dual sim is a feature that has to be supported by the carrier. Unfortunately none of the Canadian carriers support it,
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy 😊I SEE.😊 Canada 🍁 providers are sparce in this regard. May I suggest Fairphone 5 a wonderful device with a LOT of updates for 5 years. 😊
Not in Canada or USA
@@78gagta78 Strange that they block that option...
Why do us Canadians get screwed with lame restricted fake "dual sim" functionality???
The phone is built for a worldwide market. It makes sense that they would create one hardware platform and then customize it with software. From a network perspective I am not sure why none of the Canadian networks support dual sim. They all support eSim but only on certain models. The XP10 is not one of those. In the end it probably comes down to money.
I am from Pakistan and I need battery of px8 so how can I get the battery... Anyone help me
When will Verizon get it? Sonim seems like they are dragging ass making this thing available .
You have a slight grasp of how an android phone works lol
Did you find the XP 10 screen more durable?
The XP10 uses Gorilla Glass Victus which the most durable glass in any modern Smartphone. You should have no issues with it as far as durability goes.
the one thing i wanna know more than all else is what is the processor in this thing i have the xp8 with a snap dragon 600 series i want to know what this has
The XP 10 has a Qualcomm SM 4350 pro processor
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy what Is your thought about the overall performance of the device. What phone would you compare to the xp9900 for exemple. Is this a big diffrence from xp8?
@@michel-alexandrecarrier3450 after looking up that processor its slower than a 2020 765g so the long term usability of this phone is suspect
@@kakakuriman I really dont understand the reason behind a snapdragon 480. Why not a 4 gen 1 snapdragon instead its already better. Dont think the device would be so much more expensive with a better CPU. Not talking about the fact that sonim release New devices after 4 years... Cant Wait to watch a full test and review video about this phone before i spend 950$+
I went to Sonim web page and didn't see the Sonim xp 9900 listed, and where can I buy this phone?
Is this phone rugged like the past phnoe?
Hi Paul. It isn't listed yet as it is not officially released yet we are still a couple of weeks away depending on which country you are in. I had an XP7 and an XP8 and now I have the 10. The ruggedness hasn't changed. They just get a bit more refined and more user friendly.
The XP 10 released in Canada this morning on the Telus network. Others will be releasing it shortly
It is as rugged as the XP8. It was released today in Canada. Other carriers are expected soon.
I don't like that they got rid of the manual keys 😠
XP8 has been great for me and will be upgrading to this one. Hope. I can use my drop in charger with xp9900.
The brass pins are the same size and shape but the bottom edge of the phone looks slightly different. It may or may not fit. The only way to tell is to try it. It's that close.
@@Bryanthecellphoneguy thanks for the reply. New phone not on Sonimtech site. Do you know of a release date? And price point?
when is this phone available??
In Canada November 15th is the scheduled release date. The US will be around the same time. Most likely AT&T first.
What is the price?
The price isn't officially out yet but we expect around $950 ish
2:55 if I bring the Canada phone to the US, Will it work with two Sims?
It has with the phone, or with the Canada service ?
No it won't work. The Canadian phones are firmedwared to only work with one Sim. If you want to use a two sim version you need to buy it from location where this is supported. You also need to use it on a network that supports dual sim.
where do i buy?
If you are in Canada, Telus should have them by mid November. If you are in the US, AT&T will be your best bet. Sometime in November is my best guess.
In Canada any Telus business store after Nov 15 ish. In the US we have to wait for AT&T to announce it.
Thats good news that the battery is 6000mah. I thought it was only going to be 5000mah.
It is. He misspoke. Pause the video as he puts the battery in and you'll see the capacity.
"Only" 5Ah is pretty good. It will do 30 hours on phone call from 100% to 0% charge. In my own experience, about 16 hours of general use on and off runs about 40% down.
Consider that this is a much more efficient SOC and that the battery is replaceable - You can swap it for a larger type if one becomes available. I see no reason you could not design & 3D print a new back plate to fit even larger batteries than stock in the back if you so desired.
I hate apple, Samsung got rid of the 3.5 jack, and now they are getting rid of expandable micro card so xp 10 it is for me.
Ihate That sonim New smartphone are not better design in tome i love sonim xp7700 os m'y number 1 xp8800 number 2 9900 no l😂