Goodbye, Tequila Sunset - Therapist Plays Disco Elysium: Part 31

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  • @eurobrady
    @eurobrady  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    Back for more rigorous self-critique, which I feel like is getting easier the more we learn about ourselves. Next up is a chat with Gary the Cryptofascist in episode 32 which is up on the archive for patreon supporters, coming to YT soon. Enjoy!

    • @RollerOfEyes
      @RollerOfEyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Not really a spoiler, but the necktie is not a manifestation of your addiction. Instead, in that scene or scenario, it manifests as a way to communicate your psychic power. The blue spirits are for a quest. Hope it helps.

    • @fruitbatfox
      @fruitbatfox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Huge fan of how you’ve been roleplaying this game, thank you!

    • @PolarShift
      @PolarShift 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think most people only like the necktie for *one* specific moment, and you're still a ways away from it.
      Honestly, your play-through should be your own. If you want to be rid of the necktie, you should keep it off. The moment that occurs that I assume most people tolerate the necktie for, will already provide plenty to talk about, regardless of the necktie's involvement or lack there-of. Do what will make you more satisfied with your play-through.

    • @ImVeryOriginal
      @ImVeryOriginal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PolarShift 100% this. My expectation is that Brady will *hate* that one moment as well, honestly. It's as goofy as the rest of the tie's dialogue and kind of undercuts the drama of the scene it happens in. It only works if you like the tie already. I don't know why people are pushing it if Brady is clearly not enjoying its personality.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PolarShifttf you mean the only reason
      The necktie is an arbiter of chaos and fun times, he is your you, in opposition of the influence of Kim

  • @Blu-Meanie
    @Blu-Meanie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    PET YOUR CAT BRO

    • @sebastiankiro6984
      @sebastiankiro6984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      NO, DON'T DO IT!

    • @kamikazemelon787
      @kamikazemelon787 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      [HORRIFIC NECKTIE] Yes! And he wants catnip! You do too. Don't you have something in that cabinet? Rip it out buddy boyyy!

  • @RisqueBisquet
    @RisqueBisquet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    The necktie - like almost everything in the game - is in fact deeply rooted in intense introspection. Yes, it wants you to do all the worst things and become a worse person. The tie is of course you. Unfortunately for your specific roleplay, some of the most intense revelations happen from exploring these dark paths. Not to say you need to seek all those out, but they're there. Off the top of my head, I think there's a single dialogue with the tie you'd find insightful, but it's up to you if you want to endure your _BRATAN_ to find it.
    The tie and Electrochemistry play similar, but subtly different roles. EC is chasing transient sensation, the tie wants something darker - nothing less than total self-destruction. Not pleasure for pleasure's sake, but as a means to erase your identity entirely. And don't forget, your first description of this item was that it was your friend.
    I was lucky enough to visit the Disco Elysium popup store and in fact own a copy of the hideous, garish necktie. I don't believe there's a shirt in existence that would compliment it.

    • @limo_was_here
      @limo_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      even more so than that it was your friend....the second description was that it reminded you of a noose....

  • @JonBall44
    @JonBall44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    Idiot Doom Spiral is one of my more favorite characters in the game. Not because of the way he is, he's a depressing asshole. But because of his charm and the way he reflects what Harry could end up being. If he continued his addiction.

    • @emmanuelbustos2693
      @emmanuelbustos2693 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      His amazing story telling abilities too

  • @ramela
    @ramela 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Brady's surprise at the Horrific Necktie telling him NOT to drink the spirits is one of my favorite moments so far.

  • @tharfagreinir
    @tharfagreinir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I like how the game kind of manipulates you (both you, Brady and you, as the player generally) into buying the bottle of spirits by first setting an absurdly high price for it which you're at first naturally curious about and then you're delighted to find that you can bring it down to be absurdly low. A nice use of psychological anchoring.

    • @alexp.4270
      @alexp.4270 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's a really good point about the game design of this situation. Nice job pointing it out.

  • @datwee7576
    @datwee7576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    If you find the pay phone. Keep trying. There is 1 moment you need to find.

    • @petesematary
      @petesematary 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This, this. A hundred times, this.

    • @Silent_Depths
      @Silent_Depths 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not sure but wouldn't Harry first need to inspect the ledger thoroughly before it can happen?

    • @Katwind
      @Katwind 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would be really interesting to find what insigh Brady has about it. Hope he doesn't keep failing that check.

  • @gimpscam9976
    @gimpscam9976 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Not sure if anyone has mentioned, and not sure if true either; Tequila Sunset is a term for someone who just wants to drink themselves to death. Just drink and drink and drink until they keel over. At that point before amnesia he probably was trying to.

    • @Polo01912
      @Polo01912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yeah that does get mentioned in the game

    • @gimpscam9976
      @gimpscam9976 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Polo01912 ok. Idk if it’s with idiot doom spiral though.

    • @JulesPeyrache
      @JulesPeyrache 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@gimpscam9976 no it's Lilienne that says that if i remember it right

  • @DrunkenCoward1
    @DrunkenCoward1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    One dialouge of Kim's I love, which you have missed during the Sunken Car scene is when you ask Kim "So you have been putting up with me because I am your superior?" and Kim answers:
    "No. I am putting up with you, because you do good police work."

    • @RollerOfEyes
      @RollerOfEyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that can change depending on how your relationship with him changes.

    • @DrunkenCoward1
      @DrunkenCoward1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RollerOfEyes And what would he have said in the context of this playthrough?

  • @fabricated
    @fabricated 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    The Necktie is annoying but leans into the "High Inland Empire makes you a bit insane/detached from reality" thing. The necktie feels really out of place though even among the weirder components of your psyche, including Shivers which is basically your Nior Antenna.

    • @adamvifrye2690
      @adamvifrye2690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it depends what kinda harry you have.

    • @yup162
      @yup162 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      also the tie is a good example of intrusive thoughts. there’s plenty already in de but the tie literally always feels intrusive

    • @alexp.4270
      @alexp.4270 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think of Inland Empire as our imagination interpreting our subconscious. Electrochemistry is obviously our impulsive, transient pleasure obsession. To me, the Necktie is where both Indland Empire & Electrochemistry meet - it is insanity. Insanity is often characterized by all its negative qualities, but often insanity is also often viewed as having a special perspective on the world. Insanity is often presented as a curse of twisted insight. I think that is the Necktie.

  • @FlameHidden
    @FlameHidden 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The self esteem gut punch for Harry that I always remember is when he has the nightmare on the first night, where the hanged version of himself dehumanizes him with:
    "Human beings have friends. Where the hell are yours?"

  • @evanriddle4138
    @evanriddle4138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The necktie is ment to be a vistigial part of Harry. A part of him so far off of what he is now that it has separated into its own being... In for a penny in for a pound, stick with this necktie it may still surprise you

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OH YEAH BABY

  • @emmanuelbustos2693
    @emmanuelbustos2693 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Dont sell the spirits brataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

    • @Shinny1338
      @Shinny1338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      100% save it for the most special occasion. No spoilers, it will not affect your RP

  • @AlanRayable
    @AlanRayable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    it just occurred to me that you find both of your old names in the fishing village, meters apart

  • @evil-doer
    @evil-doer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think if you aren’t happy with the horrific necktie now, to the point where it’s detracting from any scene it shows up in, you should feel free to change out of it! If you don’t like the tie, the tie’s arc will not be satisfying, imho.
    Also, I would recommend hearing a story from idiot doom spiral because his backstory is something that is interesting from a psychological perspective! Love the eps!

  • @fooguwu
    @fooguwu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    if it makes you feel better past this point the necktie doesn't really talk until the payoff

  • @RyleyAtk
    @RyleyAtk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    For what it’s worth Brady, based on everything you’ve said about the necktie, I don’t think you will find its “payoff” especially satisfying in terms of narrative or character, though who knows. Basically, do what you want with it. Don’t let it drag your experience down if it continues to do so, because the game functions and progresses perfectly fine without it.

    • @happyhunterfish
      @happyhunterfish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      For me the payoff gives the tie the psychological depth and motivation behind its actions, so it's not just a one dimensional comedy bit telling you to do drugs. But if you're not finding its dialogue entertaining, that one moment where it all ties together probably isn't worth the wait.

    • @Linkinbird617
      @Linkinbird617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I would disagree, the payoff for the necktie is extremely relevant to a THERAPIST playthrough, it tackles some concepts more directly than anywhere else in the game.

    • @emmachance8
      @emmachance8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Chiming in to respond that the necktie is relevant to a therapist playthrough. It might change his mind on what its purpose is. Also... I personally really want Brady to see the tie "payoff"! Keeping my fingers crossed!

    • @Null_Experis
      @Null_Experis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I disagree. I think there is a good character moment to be had there.

    • @ImVeryOriginal
      @ImVeryOriginal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I hope he takes it off, I am positive it will be a disappointment both for him and everyone who kept pushing it.

  • @karlosanchez1
    @karlosanchez1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Id reccomend going back and listening to Doom Spirals stories, theyre quite good

  • @SquishypuffDave
    @SquishypuffDave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    One of the best things about this game is that you're there to roleplay and make choices rather than worrying about "missing out" on content. Don't be swayed by the necktie purists.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It is the *truth* and will guide him to *the other side*
      Spoilers below
      I really just want him to see the tribunal scene with the necktie bomb

    • @ImVeryOriginal
      @ImVeryOriginal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@birdup1_2 Why though? If he hates the tie, he won't care about what happens to it, and the moment kind of undercuts the tension anyway. Let him play the game his way.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ImVeryOriginal he doesn’t see it as a friend, is the issue. He only sees it as another aspect of Harry’s mind, whereas that is not what it is for Harry(even though it kinda is that). I get all that, I just think it’d be a pity to miss such cool content because you feel a character is a bad influence

    • @ImVeryOriginal
      @ImVeryOriginal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@birdup1_2 Its function doesn't matter if it's just annoying you and you feel no curiosity or sympathy towards it. And, honestly, I agree that it doesn't really bring that much to the table in terms of narrative depth or insight into Harry's psyche. I don't hate it, but the game wouldn't suffer much if it was cut.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ImVeryOriginal I feel there is nothing to change your mind.

  • @khankotyan6991
    @khankotyan6991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Necktie is anti-brady in his nature

  • @letmedoit8095
    @letmedoit8095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Not a spoiler, but rather a gameplay hint - with psychological implications. When your morale isn't filled - your Volition suffers a penalty. When your health isn't full - you have a malus to Endurance. So mag it up (as soon as you'll have opportunity)!

  • @BladePHF
    @BladePHF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Inland Empire is described in the skill page as being the source of your imagination. The necktie is clearly not talking to you, it's you imagining it is. You also identified that Inland Empire is trying to guard you against pain originating in things you have forgotten. Now, I'm just going to say this: Considering all the above, and that Inland Empire never otherwise acts as a sorta uber-Electro-Chemistry, why would the tie be urging you to do things more in line with Electro-Chemistry? Note that when EC suggested a, erm, "novel" way of consuming the spirit the tie rebuffed the suggestion. Don't write off the tie as just EC on crack just yet, and consider its link to Inland Empire.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This ⬆️

  • @sunhammer420
    @sunhammer420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Babe wake up new euro brady dropped!!

  • @dodiswatchbobobo
    @dodiswatchbobobo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I was waiting for this. It’s the clearest possible picture of Harry immediately prior to the hard reset. No story spoilers, minor gameplay mechanics.
    Anything related to Inland Empire has the possibility to give you hints about future gameplay paths. In gameplay, the tie essentially represents an extra option which will not present itself if the tie is not equipped at a certain time. Now that you have the blue spirit, only one such time is left. If you would like to know the exact moment when the tie becomes necessary to equip, you can have it removed for the rest of the playthrough with no other gameplay consequences.

  • @anomitas
    @anomitas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Should definitely keep talking to idiot doom spiral, would like your take on his character's story

  • @konrad_x3674
    @konrad_x3674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    here's an earnestpost to say how much I’ve enjoyed following 5 months of this series. DE is possibly one of the best and most meaningful stories I’ve engaged with in the last few years; revisiting it with your perspective has helped a lot in understanding my long-term treatment with my own therapist, as well as my ongoing recovery.
    I understand your annoyance with the tie, but as a recovering addict, i connect with an objectified inner voice telling me to follow my worst, most self-destructive impulses in the most insistent and obnoxious way possible. of course that is annoying as hell to live with. There’s significance that it both is and isn’t a part of Harry. It’s clearly a voice from within him, but it also feels like it comes from someplace/something external to him, an object he wears, something he puts on, that he identifies with and presents to others

    • @RollerOfEyes
      @RollerOfEyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not to mention it's psychic faculties. Its lovely to see him going as far as finding this gem of a comment and liking it. thanks for sharing your story

  • @Blumble
    @Blumble 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Love seeing Brady get defensive about hating the necktie - dont worry, youre not alone, I took him off immediately and never looked back

    • @RollerOfEyes
      @RollerOfEyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      everyone who plays the game deserves to experience it multiple times doing different things. I think that includes doing a necktie run. How do you have fun in games without the replay value aspect of an RPG like this? 😂

  • @fredrik625
    @fredrik625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Up the bum it goes!

  • @kasyanchik
    @kasyanchik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Okay, Brady, I'm ready to offer a concession: if at any point you make a decision to abandon the necktie and/or miss out on the associated lines of dialogue later in the game, PLEASE, after you're finished with your playthrough, make a short reaction video to a dialogue (if you agree, we'll tell you which one after you're done with the plot so as not to spoil anything). I'm *very* curious to see your reaction to that.

  • @crimsonharvest
    @crimsonharvest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tie could stand to be a lot less abrasive. If that's a reflection of what Harry's like when he's fully engaged with using then I get why he has no friends or work buddies.

  • @birdup1_2
    @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    With what you said, about self esteem, it matches so perfectly with volition. The more mentally beat down you are, the worse your ability to keep your mental health in good shape is. The more morale damage you’ve taken, the lower your volition stat is.

  • @11tw48
    @11tw48 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Nothing special. Like everyone else. I have all sorts of wild thoughts running through my head, but then pick the most boring one." I don't know if you clocked this Brady, but this is the moment I realized that the options in the game are diegetic. When there is a fascist, communist, sorry, superstar, apocalypse, ultralib, moralist and boring option, those are all OPTIONS in Harry's head, he is considering each and every one of them.

  • @rniquel
    @rniquel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this has nothing to do with anything, but please make a video about your cats! they're so cute! great video as always :]

  • @Zedge-yq9sd
    @Zedge-yq9sd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    You can take off the tie. Many people dont grab it because they fail the check to get it anyways. You wont end up liking it more so might as well save yourself the annoyance. Loving the playthrough!

    • @Medivh9
      @Medivh9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It does give some backstory and once you know it you can understand why it acts the way it does, not like it yet at the very least understand the reason.

  • @birdup1_2
    @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You’ll find that there absolutely is an emotional reason to the necktie wanting you to drink, do drugs, and party. All the things you listed as emotional resonance with wanting transient pleasures, ironically
    It is your spirit guide to the party scene, and it will guide you to the *o t h e r s i d e*

  • @CatCheshireThe
    @CatCheshireThe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the thing to bear in mind about the tie vs electrochemistry is that electrochemistry is the straightforward, "hey let's do drugs because it'll make me feel good" skill, but the tie is associated with Inland Empire. It wants you to do things, but it doesn't know why. I feel like this is a distinct category of intrusive thought because it's _not_ something that's as easily understood as seeking chemical rewards. It's more along the lines of OCD intrusive thoughts where they don't even really represent things you actually want to do; usually the person thinking them is just as repulsed by them as anyone else would be, but they happen anyway.

  • @varsoonhks3211
    @varsoonhks3211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is such a good video series and playthrough.
    I love the psychological breakdowns and discussions.

  • @coegho
    @coegho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This game has psychological, political and weird elements. You don't have to engage with its weirdness, the same as you don't need to engage with its political themes: every run is a valid one.
    As every other commenter said the tie is not super-electrochemistry, it's a weirder character that allows the player to make some assumptions and have interesting discussions about Harry's identity, Inland Empire and the not-so-normal stuff happening in Martinaise; but maybe you are not so interested on that part of the game if you want a rational, down-to-earth gameplay about healing. And that's ok.

    • @coegho
      @coegho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also guys, stop it with the spoilers and the "please when X do Y", it's really annoying to do things in a game because "you must see this scene". Let him play the way he wants, he is not showing you "the best parts of Disco Elysium", he is playing with a clear RP purpose

  • @AdrianoxLive
    @AdrianoxLive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ooohhh... I just realized it! Electrochemistry are your internal impulses to indulge in drinking. But the tie... the tie is your friend... THAT friend, who keeps calling you to parties, and to drink, and to use other stuff. Who may even be *well intentioned*, because he knows you're suffering, he knows you're in pain, and this is the only distraction to your problems he is capable of providing.
    That is what it is meant to represent.
    THAT one friend.

  • @PoisonPeachPit
    @PoisonPeachPit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yep. that's the tie. It's exactly what Harry was like when he had a "good work/drink balance going on", and it wants to keep him like that. The tie is just trying its best to look out for Harry, to keep his mind off the bad thoughts... even though the way it does that is extremely damaging.
    There's a bowtie in a nearby shack you can grab, or you can get a sick bolo tie from Lena later on to replace it with. Or you can just go without it. Maybe after you're done with the playthrough you can look at some of the stuff you missed, including the tie, but you don't have to stick with it if it's too annoying.

  • @YARGGG_GG
    @YARGGG_GG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i think there's still a logic check in your conversations with kim? i think that's a good conversation that you shouldn't miss out on.

    • @YARGGG_GG
      @YARGGG_GG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i also played the game without the tie and i don't think it mattered. it has a potentially amusing subplot, but yeah, it's unessential and pretty annoying.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YARGGG_GGit’s really cool in terms of Harry’s psyche, though, and I think if he took the chance to analyze it in that way he’d really like it

  • @gamer_man7999
    @gamer_man7999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you buy the spirits, there is a chance if Volition is high enough that it would chime in with this:
    "Harrier. We're just going to store this one as a sellable item, okay? We're not going to let you kill yourself by drinking it. That's just not an option. Sell it at the pawn shop for profit."

  • @RamsiAyrani
    @RamsiAyrani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idiot Doom Spiral is my favorite Character in the game, you should talk more to him. I think it could be interesting for you.
    And please dont take the necktie off, even though it's annoying. In the end it's still a part of Harry and as some people mentioned you will have your pay off for it

  • @lesleychandel5791
    @lesleychandel5791 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So I can interpret the necktie as not the physical addiction like electro chemistry but a social addiction. I’ve dated someone who was homeless since they were fifteen. Despite using several drugs they never really used any too consistently, except alcohol but even than they really seemed like they didn’t crave it but what they were stuck on was the lifestyle. Being homeless was what they knew, even without drugs they were drawn to those circles and places. It’s like the social addiction.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then, in the end…Harry tosses it aside. Literally. I think Brady will like that moment

    • @RollerOfEyes
      @RollerOfEyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its not a social addiction man, like what? thats kind of a fucked up mindset to have about it. Personally, if you knew all these people or all these types of people your whole life, how could you easily separate yourself from it? from perceived family? even at the worst case scenario, she could've been manipulated into thinking they are as such. But trust me that's not probable.

  • @Jet0
    @Jet0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I need you to know that while you're thoughts on the neck tie are incredibly fair and justified. The neck tie does have a very powerful moment latter in the game.

  • @elliotadams3402
    @elliotadams3402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Necktie annoys me because it always breaks the rhythm of the conversation, and doing that breaks immersion a bit.

  • @Mhill08
    @Mhill08 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I LOVE YOUR REACTION WHENEVER THE TIE STARTS TALKING TO YOU, BRATAAAAN!

  • @birdup1_2
    @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I beg of you…do not sell the spirits.
    It will bring you the truth, and help you in (y) our most dire hour.

  • @FlameHidden
    @FlameHidden 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'll say that while the Necktie can sound anboying, if you DO follow its quest, and the quest is not about substance abuse, you will get one melancholic introspective scene out of it, that you wouldn't otherwise get. No need to be a completionist, I know, especially when roleplaying like you are, but thought I should let you know

  • @Linkinbird617
    @Linkinbird617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Horrific Necktie is your direct antagonist until its conclusion

  • @AbrahamsterLincoln
    @AbrahamsterLincoln 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hell yeah
    There is a personal history behind the necktie, tied to Harry's past and his past attempts to recreate himself and his personality. It's difficult to see how that ended up with the necktie screaming in your ear, but it really does want to help you.
    In fact, it may even be good to internalize and play into your not liking the tie. It's something that you hate listening to but is stuck with you...

  • @bluish1318
    @bluish1318 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Please stick to your roleplay of harry no matter what the comments tell you to do. Missing certain things is part of the intended experience in the same way that the devs want you to fail skill checks sometimes. You dont need to wring all the content out of this game, just be honest with it.

  • @Shinny1338
    @Shinny1338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you can't because you have to keep it consistent for branding, but oh man I would have laughed at the video beinf titled "Melancoly Introspection - Part31"

  • @flyfly376
    @flyfly376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think what's most fascinating about the Tie, is that it's Horrific. Tie's voice is obviously some part of Harry's mind, but at every opportunity, including it's voice, it's descriptions, it's conceptualise as this absolutely awful, grating thing. By Harry! Harry holds that tie in contempt. Yet it's also the tie he keeps wearing, or at the very least kept wearing until this endeavour. That in itself I find a fascinating part of Harry's self-conceptualisation.
    In fact, if you think about it, Electrochemistry always tries to make addictions sound really appealing. Tie... really doesn't. It makes it all sound so so gross and bad for you. Whatever is going there seems to be more... complicated.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good way of putting it!
      It’s quite complex, how Harry engages with it as an enemy, with spite, as though he’s tried to go sober before, but also as his best friend.

  • @jamesk7335
    @jamesk7335 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Take the tie off, it does have its own cool thing later but its not essential.

  • @Pterrordon12
    @Pterrordon12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The necktie operates in a different plane of reality

  • @thegoodrevbadandyarr4272
    @thegoodrevbadandyarr4272 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG, Brady. There is a new DE video "Disco Elysium catching Streamers off guard". It reminds me SO MUCH of MANY of your "THIS GAME IS PSYCHIC" experiences. I think you will really laugh a lot. It starts to get ahead of where you are in the game around 14 minutes, though, so spoiler warned.

  • @Jaded_o
    @Jaded_o 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm learning so much from this series-thank you so much! I've never understood myself or been able to express it in words as I can now, despite having tried many different ways over the years.
    Happy self-discovery!

  • @tomaO2
    @tomaO2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you want Harry to heal from his past relationship, but just keep in mind that you can't fix everything.
    Also, now that you've gotten the spirit, since you hate the tie so much, you can take it off. You don't need to talk to it again until the end game. Um, telling you when the endgame happens is a little tricky though... Oh, I know, it's after you meet the 8th Hardy boy. If you remember to put it on around that point, you can get the narrative pay off to the necktie without listening to it talk anymore.

  • @itsnotmyproblem
    @itsnotmyproblem หลายเดือนก่อน

    My sympathy for the neck tie was caused by it's Eastern European origin (I'm Russian myself), but it goes way deeper. Neck tie behavior is caused by Harry's deeds, by the part of his psyche which was displaced in animate object and infects it, possesses it, corrupts it into something else. I told before there are many examples of such interactions between humans and objects: Harry and his necktie, Harry and lone birch, Harry and his deceased auto that needs proper funeral, Kim and his adored Kineema, Garte and his stuffed bird (this one is not represented clearly but anyway) -- many of them, will not spoil further. We're investing so much psyche into the world, into the matter, and it become impossible for matter to hold our past contained inside. The Pale is the direct result of this process and horrific neck tie is her herald.

  • @Mark-zk7uj
    @Mark-zk7uj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you familiar with Albert Ellis? He and Nathaniel Branden were kind of ideological adversaries. Ellis wrote a book called "The Myth of Self Esteem" and was one of the founders of REBT. Something fascinates me about clashing psychotherapeutic theories.

  • @otaku2082
    @otaku2082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Necktie might be a good reflection for Harry to who he used to be, I'd say. I say we keep it.

  • @alexis_electronic
    @alexis_electronic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the best way to understand the necktie is that he was basically the player, before you.
    self destructive. looking for any stimulation. anything.

  • @FireheadLazzo
    @FireheadLazzo หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:19 This is a totally fair critique. The tie does seem to serve the same purpose as Electrochemistry and you do kind of need to indulge in the tie to understand why it's different.
    But if you find it annoying, you find it annoying.

  • @neosatellite5745
    @neosatellite5745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't completed watching this series but so far this has became my fav disco elysium related content. Thank you so much for making these amazing videos and im so glad you enjoyed the game :)

  • @hsvfanjan17
    @hsvfanjan17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a fantastic playthrough. On top of Disco Elysium's greatness most viewers get to experience on a different angle with all the therapeutic angles you enhance the scenes with and that additional knowledge only further strengthens what made the game so good in the first place. I love it when there's media that gets better and better the further you dig into it (usually you start detecting holes in the plot, personalities and so on).
    Also, as someone who currently goes to therapy, it helps me to identify/learn more things about myself in between sessions as there are so many psychological topics Revachol's citizens can be analyzed in that every here and then I discover how I may be affected or behave in a similar way. I believe it'll help me on my journey and I thank you for that, Brady!

  • @Rysdan
    @Rysdan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually have a bit of a different view of the tie.
    I see it as representing a Harry's longing for a supportive companion. Harry very clearly pushed away the people who were close to him and doesn't seem to have any friends beyond that, until Kim the tie might have been his way of projecting what he imagined a supportive friend would be like for him in such a state as he was in. He clearly wanted to drink and party to escape his pain and it seems like his coworkers (from Harry's point of view) didn't 'get it' what he was going through. So the tie is like a replacement, at the same time a friend who (mis)guides Harry as well as someone even wilder than Harry. In comparison to it, Harry likely feels he's being more reasonable, after all its the tie saying the wild things, he's not doing 'everything' it suggests. So likely it also eases his conscience in that way. So basically a complex coping mechanism - something he might gradually let go as he forms relationships with people who try to encourage him to be better without judgement.

  • @fredt1983
    @fredt1983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless you ignore every single comment, I think you know what the necktie represents. Just another part of Harry's psyche, and something that can be *very* annoying to deal with in people..

  • @alexp.4270
    @alexp.4270 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your analysis, what you have shared about your personal experiences in relation to the game, and just your overall roleplay through this game have been incredible. It has been both entertaining and enlightening. Thank you for continuing with this series.

  • @sobutto5698
    @sobutto5698 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a viewer the necktie adds extra value by goading you into ranting at it entertainingly, so there's that.
    I do think if you follow the tie narrative through to its intended conclusion you'll be pleasantly surprised by the special place it wants to put the blue liquid, too, and the message therein. Have patience, brave one.

  • @salvatorenoth2489
    @salvatorenoth2489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Necktie reminds me of something you go through when you have mental health progress; a relic of your past that is counter productive to keep around (an item, a habit, a friend) but is hard to let go of in the first steps of the journey.

  • @Mhill08
    @Mhill08 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally love that you're falling deeper in love with Kim Kitsuragi as time goes on, because the same thing happened to me in my playthrough

  • @arthuralpaca
    @arthuralpaca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you don't like the neck tie remove it. Play however you want, it's awesome

  • @Anna-zi7sx
    @Anna-zi7sx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey im not trying to spoil but I’m afraid you’ll miss it: if you see a payphone please keep using it over and over again.
    Also, don’t be afraid to fail checks. Some of those games best scenes come from it, in this area as well.
    (There’s only one check you reaaaaaally don’t want to miss but I think you’re fine on that one)

  • @endlessmike7
    @endlessmike7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen plenty of great playthroughs where they totally ignore the necktie. Don't let people pressure you into playing the game in a way you don't enjoy. It's your story.

  • @Ricaidius
    @Ricaidius 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Ties endgame will be even more satisfying because you dislike it. Dare I say in its parting moments you may grow to like it

  • @rrael
    @rrael 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The necktie is love. The necktie is life. Just gotta accept it Brady.

  • @brokenhelmet9489
    @brokenhelmet9489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That self esteem talk was eye opening thank you so much Brady it made me realize so much

  • @wesleymcjunkin6643
    @wesleymcjunkin6643 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the thumbnail the cats head looks like a thumbs up in a cast, and I was like oh no did you break your hand lol.

  • @ormedare7615
    @ormedare7615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My personal theory is that necktie is a part of Harry that wants him to get worse, maybe even suicidal part of him. I mean, you found it attached to the fan in the beginning. Maybe it's a lingering established idea of who Harry is as a person, and self-hatred attached to it. Like sunk cost fallacy, it wants you to come back to your previous ways "to keep the party going" because it doesn't believe that it's possible to change. Respecively, it would be a projection of Harry's self-hatred and cynicism, learned hopelessness. It's a belief that Harry has that he doesn't deserve to be treated fairly - and other people don't deserve fair treatment from him by extension, of course.
    I don't know tho, I didn't engage with it in my playtrough. I hope you tackle cynicism and learned hopelessness when it comes to changing your perception of yourself as a person more in the future. I know from personal experiences with friends that outside factors like the environment greatly affect it, but what exactly is the process behind this? Is it just low self-esteem or trauma response? What could make the hypothetical necktie react to drugs and other opportunities for self-destruction by trying to remind the hypothetical Harry of who he thought he was?

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a twisted defense mechanism. It’s there to help you survive, but not thrive. It is your end, in a bottle of comodore red, but even if not, it will still be your friend.

  • @ramela
    @ramela 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate the horrific necktie too, incidentally.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your bones are scraped clean, by the desolate wind.
      Not even the carrion eaters are interested in your radiated corpse.

  • @DanAlom
    @DanAlom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just take off the tie, sure it has it's point but it's your game, better enjoy it!

  • @bluesmandingo
    @bluesmandingo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool looking cat

  • @loretta1013
    @loretta1013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ditch the neck tie. There are ways to play this game where the neck tie is amazing. I don't think it will bring anything interesting to your playthrough.

  • @boo5860
    @boo5860 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like the necktie either though it has its moments

  • @attentivechair3248
    @attentivechair3248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These guys are influencing your end game with the neck tie by saying it has "great narratve pay off". It may have for the audience but it is not in line with your goals.

    • @birdup1_2
      @birdup1_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He just hasn’t taken the time to analyze it.

  • @BroudbrunMusicMerge
    @BroudbrunMusicMerge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad someone agrees with me about the tie, lol

  • @incontinentia3119
    @incontinentia3119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, I never got the appeal of the horrific tie either.

  • @FlameHidden
    @FlameHidden 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you find a payphone, use it until something meaningful happens.

  • @thefane8682
    @thefane8682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brady, stop JUDGING the necktie. There's an emotional payoff. Theres a reason its there in Harry. I hate to say it... but youre being... REACTIONARY

    • @thefane8682
      @thefane8682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ok maybe that's a bit much for me to claim, but i swear it fits into your roleplay and i'd literally cry if you missed out on seeing you cry

    • @ashleydavis3318
      @ashleydavis3318 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      youre being a necktie screaming shit in the comment section rn

  • @marclaw9479
    @marclaw9479 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i guess the tie is peer pressure bad friends

  • @datwee7576
    @datwee7576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally

  • @petesematary
    @petesematary 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the horrific necktie represents Harry's self-image prior to his amnesiac break - like the whole disco superstar supercop persona was *probably* a front for *something* (no spoilers) and the costume helped Harry maintain the façade. After all, nothing says "disco supercop" like a *truly* horrific necktie. Imo your Harry is hearing an echo of his former self, initially rejecting it, and now grudgingly listening to see what might be gleaned.

  • @BigBadBalrog
    @BigBadBalrog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got an ad break at precisely 16:17 and it was so perfect to get Brady’s look of light disgust mixed with “Well, I don’t know what I expected,” right before some bright and cheerful corporate nonsense 😂

  • @djeka415
    @djeka415 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your videos!

  • @onionrangerduck7024
    @onionrangerduck7024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know what's gotten into me. But the moment you started talking about self esteem i skipped. Literally have not skipped ever in previous episodes. Maybe i discovered some of my own problems as well.
    Still don't want to watch it tho, but I guess I'll keep that i mind

  • @pigeon2088
    @pigeon2088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with the comments saying you should just take the necktie off if you hate it and don't care about it. Keeping it on and having it detract from your experience doesn't make any sense.
    Tbh I just start skipping the moment the necktie says something because hearing the complaints about it and seeing you get frustrated is so awkward and uncomfortable as a viewer.

  • @antisocialexperiment2033
    @antisocialexperiment2033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Inland Empire governs the neck tie and other oddities of your own imagination while electrochemistry's musings are physiological

  • @RoundHouseDictator
    @RoundHouseDictator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe you can have too much self esteem if you are otherwise protected by too much money or power. I'd like to invite you to be wrong out loud sometimes. Ignorance is a great path to failure, failure is where learning happens, the happiest people I know try to fail faster to get to the success. You don't need to be assertive to lay out some thoughts you're working on

  • @HighPriestessofPie
    @HighPriestessofPie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the thing your discounting in the tie is that even someone on the road to recovery has intrusive thoughts they must resist. just because you have the self esteam to not give into temptation, doesnt mean you dont have to deal with having the temptation. the tie is that. its more and more anoying to you as you go, because you take it less and less seriously as a gauiding voice. youre supposed to. the payoff has to do with the backstory of when and how harry got the tie, and how it works as a mental construct for him. its an obstical he has to overcome like everything else, but its realistic to the kinds of intrusive thoughts and temptations the show up for people, even when they are well past the point of ever giving into them.