Draconicrose And this is why the American drug war failed. We shut down the big companies, small companies cropped up. Small companies get shut down. Mexico steps in. We try to shut down Mexico. So many criminals and dug addicts. We put them in jail instead of rehab. So said.
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/refugees-crime-rumors/480171/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_stereotype_of_African_Americans Links for the benefit of anyone reading. Do visit the sources on that Wikipedia article (convenient summary is convenient). I will now block the racist as they have served their purpose.
"While it’s possible that all of the attackers were, indeed, immigrants or asylum-seekers, the everyday atmosphere in Cologne (and other German cities) might suggest otherwise. One activist told German news outlet Deutsche Welle that women have been putting up with street harassment and sexual assaults since long before the refugee crisis began: “Because refugees are now a burning topic, the media all of a sudden report about these events, but what nobody wants to admit is that these things happen all the time. I’m sorry to break this to you, but German-born men also harass and rape.”" www.snopes.com/2016/01/11/refugees-new-years-eve/
Yeah, Ned Kelly was harrassed his whole life by rich land owners, and corrupt officials, in my opinion, Ned Kelly was a working man who's had enough. He was a criminal there is no denying that, but only when all other avenues in life were blocked by the corrupt. A man can only get stepped on so many times before he steps back, at least that's my opinion.
Crowe Man you have no idea have you Crowe. There were no squatters in the Greta during the Kelly outbreak. The police were not corrupt as the Royal Commission found. The only people that were trodden on was Kelly's victims who he abused terribly. Kelly complained about the police who were rightly investigating his stealing of 280 horses.
1wan2die HD He used suffering and fear against the people that had wronged him, and to be fair, were not people of goodwill Also, fairly sure corruption isn’t part of the Patriot act either..
Probably because he had virtually no effect on human history whatsoever. He's just a common criminal, or at least an extra slippery one. But that's it, he made no contribution to society, he had no profound thought to put to words, he was just a poor, low-intelligence criminal.
History books in schools don't have time to focus on more than the most important events. If you want read individual stories about people there are plenty but you can do it on your own.
We do in Australia. He's considered a legendary and often divisive figure of colonial Australia. Nearly everyone in the country knows at least of him in his suit of metal armour and his bushranging feats.
And this is why you don't push a normally good person until they runs out of options, because at some point, they will snap and things will go VERY VERY VERY bad for everyone involved. Because someone who has always leaned bad will gloat and flaunt and eventually get caught or betrayed. A good man turned bad is a lot less likely to end up like that. You REALLY don't want to push a good man to their breaking point, it's not pretty.
Admiral Li, I presume? But yeah, they both got the hell kicked out of them in their early years (though Li would then take a very different path of course)
okay, I, wow, I just, wow! I mean, it sounds so petty evil that, it's hard to believe it actually happened. Fuck, by this point, i'm cheering for Ned, no matter what crimes he actually does.
Daniel García i think that's why Australians seem to be split on him as far as I can tell. For some he put some wealthy greedy men and their corrupt government pals in their place and for others he's a criminal from a family of criminals that never could cut it in "normal" society. At least that's what I can glean from it, it's my first time hearing of this myself.
cezgamer we arent split on him, actually when we learn about him in school its told from a heroic perspectice, we think hes an honorable bloke who tried to protect his family and cops definately had it out for him
Yeah, Ned Kelly in Australia is almost always treated as a heroic figure, or at best told in a somewhat balanced manner. Very few cast him as an outright villain. Robin hood is an apt comparison in terms of legend. I wouldn't say Ned Kelly had any of the grandiose noble aims that are attributed to Robin Hood, but it's more in how the stories are told, rather than the details that makes them seem like similar figures.
Super Lets look at the facts. Ned Kelly was found a job by a police sergeant and that sergeant gave him money to get home and go to the job. Ned Kelly did not take up the job, did not pay the money back as he promised, then he turned to a life as a criminal.
You monster! They were innocent, innocent I tell you! You started this whole thing by bribing the police who arrested the father, didn't you? How could you!
I could just imagine the squatters talking “Who robbed us!” “Ned Kelly!” “Wait what! I thought he stopped bushranging!” “He left a note, it says,”if you want me to be a criminal, then I’ll be one” “Well damn! I never thought he’d actually do it!”
So a bit of background about what's going on here. Why are they such jerks to the Kelly's (aside from the fact they're poor)? Because at this time in Britain and her colonies there's this belief that criminality isn't a choice as much as it's natural and instinctive, you inherit it from your parents. Here's Ned Kelly son of that thief Red, right? Makes sense that he's a thief too, or at least in this view. In fact so prevalent is this belief it's one of the reasons they colonized Australia, they wanted a place to ship all these criminals away from Britain to clean up the gene pool so to say. It's better than killing them outright right?
By my count, there are now at least three different Robert Walpole accounts working the comments sections of these videos. ...He's cloning himself to build the perfect army to conquer the world at last. :O
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This is very true even today. Where a person out of jail tries to live an honest life but with his criminal record he can't find work and if he did its hardly sustainable. So in order to survive they have to go back to their life of crime. The only ones I know that have beaten this catch 22 were people with a very good skill (e.g. electrician) set and even then they have to work much harder in order to keep their job.
You want to know what a bad person looks like? look at someone when they both have power, and when they have none, and see what they do in both situations. Take into account the situations and culture they find themselves in before judging actions. If you ask me Ned Kelly broke under the weight of an unjust system and did some horrible things as a result, but at least managed to maintain some dignity towards the end from what little I've read. Ned Kelly was no hero, but under the circumstances I can't judge him as being a "bad" person.
There was a live action film made about Ned Kelly around the turn of the millennium, but from what I'm told it took many, MANY creative liberties. But I agree, it would be awesome to see a historically accurate animated version of the tales of Ned Kelly.
Yeah. I wouldn't say Ned Kelley would be "family friendly" due to him, on one of his last crimes, killed many people. Don't take my word for that though. I haven't learned about Ned since a long time ago.
@@christophersudbrink4946 it's a reference to Les Miserables. The protagonist, Jean, is an ex-convict who is given a second chance by a bishop who he tries to steal from. The bishop refuses to press charges, and gifts Jean the things he tried to steal, with instructions to use the gifts to give himself a better life.
A small number of cattle can be moved on foot with a switch and some food. Just herd them along. It's even easier on horseback, as if they're not used to people and they spook, you can easily outpace them.
*Constable* "Why is Ned Kelly, the Dirt Poor Troublemaker, riding a High Quality Horse like that? Hm...Sounds like he Stole it!" "Hey! Get down from there!" *Ned* "Eh? What's up pig?" *Constable* "You are my prisoner for Horse Stealing!" *Makes a Jump at Ned but fails miserably, oh and the horse starts running off* *Ned* "Ey! Wait! Horse! Come back!" *Constable* "HEY! STOP RUNNING!" *Ned Turns around and says* "Wot!?" *See's the Revolver pointed at his Face and says...* "Wot!?"
It's not fair that the society Ned lives in thinks that if he tries bush ranging he would always be a thief. I am soooooo happy that he got his vengeance. He lived in this world trying to forget his past .
emus? dude they affect less than 10% of farmers, drought affects everyone when it comes, salinity, low soil quality, feral foxes, the cost price squeeze create but a super market duopoly. these are things that hurt farmers in Australia.
Amy Forbes-Richardson *Sitting in a rocking chair smoking a pipe by the light of a weakening fireplace* The ghosts of the Great Emu War haunt every farmer. We all fought, we all served. Except...it wasn't even really service was it? It was survival. That's what we were doing. A farmer back then didn't have much choice. There was no desertion even. It was just you and a wall of feathers anywhere you went. Crazed, those birds. Crazed. It was like Hitchcock meets Zulu and I was Michael Caine. So does it matter? Does that suicide mission dressed up as a war matter to farmers now? Why don't you ask the boys, from farm hand owner, whose souls went back to the Lord on the field at Campion. Yes it still matters.
I'm sure Walpole was the one who came up with the whole "Fine, give the poors a bit of your government farmland, but if you bribe me you can just give them the shitty bits" idea in the first place.
RandomGerman Guy Not joking this time, research the Walpole River ending in the town of Walpole Australia. The river itself was named for Captain William Walpole. Great, great nephew of...
Well, I'd never heard about Ned Kelly's earlier years and before, my only thought of him was that he was a petty thief and murderer in a tin suit. But damn, this is actually stirring up genuine sympathy in me. For a murderer, of all people. That being said, raise your hand if you're an Aussie like me and all smug because you know how this story ends!
Just imagine how many thousands of your ancestors are killers. Murder can be justified, even in modern Australia there are instances where you can legally murder someone. Self defence, for instance.
So far, this series is tied with Catherine the Great and the Brother's Gracchi for my favorite series of EH. Also has my favorite music. Keep up the Great work!
@Extra Credits One of my Great-great-great-however many 'great's-grandfather lived on the farm next to the Kelly Family. He knew Ned as a kid and, as I've heard it passed down, that Ned was a charming little rascal. Apparently the Kelly family was very hospitable. I've been to the Glenrowan, Greta, Beechworth and all the main places of events from those days. I've seen the grave of the man who shot Ned Kelly during the siege of Glenrowan. The Groundskeeper said that it's funny how many people come from all over Australia to spit on his grave because they claim they're related to the Kelly family, people come from Brisbane, Cairns, Darwin, Perth and even Broome to 'see' the grave.
Well, yeah, but a lot of egotistic assholes become CEO's of large companies instead. Somehow we reward certain kinds of assholes with the best-paying jobs around, while at the same time treating others as garbage. Society is pretty weird like that.
@@geneirai Ned Kelly mostly stole horses from poor settlers, some of them Irish. There were so Squatters left in the Greta area during Kelly's activity with horse stealing. He boasted that he had stolen at least 280 horses.
I actually lived in Coburg until recently, where he was held for those three years at the HM Prison Pentridge. It isn't active anymore and one of my friends used to live in the houses they've started making around it, I lived across the street (an incredible long street though) from it. The signs there like to brag about them holding Ned Kelly there and so do my primary (briefly) and high (less briefly) schools that are incredibly close.
Babita The only thing Ned Kelly fought against was the police who were trying to bring his criminality under control. There was no class struggle. That is made up BS.
A question since I wanted to support Extra Credits on Patreon. There's this line about suggesting a historical character: "Tell us what historical period or person we should make a future series about! (Must be 1920s or earlier.)". Are people who were mostly active in the 1910's and the 1920's but also had some part to play in the 1930's eligible?
I studied Ned Kelly in school in history and in English via a fictional "mock" autobiography. On neither occasions did I learn of the ingeniously simple cattle laundering scheme. Thank you EC for filling in where education failed.
Remember remeber Kelly back in November, the gun, cattle, prison plot.... i know of no reason why the guns, cattle, prison should ever be forgot... Kelly Prevails!!!
GreyWolfLeaderTW partially does not mean fully, and Kunta Kinte was a real person who became a slave and died a person. Yes some facts were made up for reasons and circumstances., such as the period of time. And some today are related to Kunta Kinte in real life.
Hi, I love the videos you guys make but in this one I cant figure out why the "wealthy squatters" are called that. Isn't a squatter somebody that's staying on somebody else's land? How do you become wealthy doing that?
As an American who is also used to hearing "squatter" associated with poverty, this threw me for a loop as well. ;) In Australia, colonists who arrived early and/or had a lot of money would go out and build ranches on "unclaimed" land. The British Crown considered that land the territory of their government, hence these people were squatting on government land... BUT they also got to build these big ranches before anybody else did, which made them even more rich. By the time the colonial governments in Australia got around to trying to reclaim that land, the squatters had become very well established and successfully fought off (most of) the government's attempts to take their property back. Many felt that they had earned the land by risking their necks to settle it - Australia has always been famous for its deadly wildlife/climate/etc. Eventually, the word "squatter" came to be associated with rich people whether or not they'd earned their property by squatting on it. Look up the "squattocracy" ("squatter aristocracy") if you want to learn more about it! NB: All of this is a pretty Euro-centric summary of what "squatters" were. The land they were squatting on belonged to the aboriginal people, which they refused to recognize. -Soraya
@@extrahistory In 1860 the Victoria government enacted The Lands Act that took the land back from the squatters. There were some problems with the legislation, but by 1869 the squatters had been defeated, and the settlers had won. Note that was well before the Kelly outbreak. Kelly mainly stole from poor settlers, as there were very few squatters left in that area.
A couple of points (minor ones). You didn't include the part where Ned meets up with Wild Wright (who stole the horse that landed him in prison) and had a 21 round bare-knuckle boxing match with him and won (the two became friends afterwards). Additionally Ned didn't work as a blacksmith, he was a "treefeller" (another word for lumberjack) and was actually very successful at it. He also worked for a time as a bricklayer and the overseer at a sawmill. Not major stuff as you can see, but just little touches that help shape Ned's character in this period of his life. Otherwise I'm loving this series!
Genuinely, when you let your system get THAT corrupt, you deserve a robber stealing everything you fucking own. The moment your greed overtakes your morals, you deserve to lose everything.
When you treat criminals as subhuman and incapable of recovery they go right back to being criminals. Who could ever know.
Draconicrose And this is why the American drug war failed. We shut down the big companies, small companies cropped up. Small companies get shut down. Mexico steps in. We try to shut down Mexico. So many criminals and dug addicts. We put them in jail instead of rehab. So said.
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/refugees-crime-rumors/480171/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_stereotype_of_African_Americans
Links for the benefit of anyone reading. Do visit the sources on that Wikipedia article (convenient summary is convenient).
I will now block the racist as they have served their purpose.
"While it’s possible that all of the attackers were, indeed, immigrants or asylum-seekers, the everyday atmosphere in Cologne (and other German cities) might suggest otherwise. One activist told German news outlet Deutsche Welle that women have been putting up with street harassment and sexual assaults since long before the refugee crisis began:
“Because refugees are now a burning topic, the media all of a sudden report about these events, but what nobody wants to admit is that these things happen all the time. I’m sorry to break this to you, but German-born men also harass and rape.”"
www.snopes.com/2016/01/11/refugees-new-years-eve/
Abc Klm: isn’t that saying the opposite of what you’re claiming?
+Abc Klm Hmmm, why did the rapes happen on German new year instead of the Islamic new year?
Hmmm.... Such a mystery.
"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”
"When injustice becomes >right< , resistance becomes duty.” is the quote and its from Berthold Brecht :)
Fedor Russel Excellent quote from Batman 😎🍕🍺
@@Skid235 huh I didn't know about that. Thanks dude!
True
@generalworgor _official that's quite subjective don't ya think
Yeah, Ned Kelly was harrassed his whole life by rich land owners, and corrupt officials, in my opinion, Ned Kelly was a working man who's had enough. He was a criminal there is no denying that, but only when all other avenues in life were blocked by the corrupt. A man can only get stepped on so many times before he steps back, at least that's my opinion.
If that was the case there would be no government
@@moth8775 hes like the historic version of.the killdozer
Crowe Man you have no idea have you Crowe. There were no squatters in the Greta during the Kelly outbreak. The police were not corrupt as the Royal Commission found. The only people that were trodden on was Kelly's victims who he abused terribly. Kelly complained about the police who were rightly investigating his stealing of 280 horses.
@@samsabastian5560 Would. You. Provide. Sources?
They step, he stomp.
"Ned races all the way home, leaps off his horse, and vows never to go bush ranging again" *goes bush ranging again*
Cue the Always Sunny in Philadelphia theme song.
straya
Lol that's me basicly me
“Watch now as Ned goes bush ranging again”
"Some of you are cool, don't come to Australia tomorrow."
-Ned Kelly
@Nate ta W-what?
This episode should've been called "The Fuck It Button" because Ned hit it so hard it just shattered.
The poor turn to crime when the rich turn to greed. Lesson for life.
Cruelty for cruelty, kindness for kindness
Just like real life.
Deep.
@@jlord9638 He said WHEN rich people turn to greed. He didn't say rich people ALWAYS TURN to greed. So both of you guys are right.
@Andrew Gray You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Fictional nonsense.
More like Ned Dead Redemption.
1wan2die. That is rude
Not true. Kelly had better motives and far less blood thristy
1wan2die HD
He used suffering and fear against the people that had wronged him, and to be fair, were not people of goodwill
Also, fairly sure corruption isn’t part of the Patriot act either..
1wan2die HD
Kelly is forgivable,he has motives to do crimes
But Laden?No.
@@Based-wn9jg Somebody's a boot licker
That's beautiful.
"Shoot me and be damned!"
*tries to shoot him, but gun jams*
I agree
I can't believe I have never heard of this man in any history class
same here i am so glad i found extra credit
History classes never teach anything about those tagged as criminals
Probably because he had virtually no effect on human history whatsoever. He's just a common criminal, or at least an extra slippery one. But that's it, he made no contribution to society, he had no profound thought to put to words, he was just a poor, low-intelligence criminal.
History books in schools don't have time to focus on more than the most important events. If you want read individual stories about people there are plenty but you can do it on your own.
We do in Australia. He's considered a legendary and often divisive figure of colonial Australia. Nearly everyone in the country knows at least of him in his suit of metal armour and his bushranging feats.
And this is why you don't push a normally good person until they runs out of options, because at some point, they will snap and things will go VERY VERY VERY bad for everyone involved.
Because someone who has always leaned bad will gloat and flaunt and eventually get caught or betrayed. A good man turned bad is a lot less likely to end up like that.
You REALLY don't want to push a good man to their breaking point, it's not pretty.
Ned was a bad person with a lot of patience who definitely tried his best to reform. You're confusing being bad with being stupid.
Aegix Drakan Indeed
Aegix Drakan Its depending up to you who is a good man or not. Even good men flaunts
Yeah nah, he was a top bloke.
except there are plenty of leaned bad people who gloat and flaunt and don't get cought or betrayed, we call them the 1%
I am getting a General Yi's vibe here.
Anti-General Li, instead of becoming a national hero he was send into a series of events that turned him into a national villain.
One man's hero is another man's villain.
Do you mean General Yi? Or is Li someone different?
Admiral Li, I presume?
But yeah, they both got the hell kicked out of them in their early years (though Li would then take a very different path of course)
*Admiral Yi
okay, I, wow, I just, wow! I mean, it sounds so petty evil that, it's hard to believe it actually happened. Fuck, by this point, i'm cheering for Ned, no matter what crimes he actually does.
Daniel García i think that's why Australians seem to be split on him as far as I can tell. For some he put some wealthy greedy men and their corrupt government pals in their place and for others he's a criminal from a family of criminals that never could cut it in "normal" society. At least that's what I can glean from it, it's my first time hearing of this myself.
Don't worry, you'll cheer for him the same way people cheer for robin hood.
cezgamer we arent split on him, actually when we learn about him in school its told from a heroic perspectice, we think hes an honorable bloke who tried to protect his family and cops definately had it out for him
ah, must have been the very vocal internet minority I saw then. It's interesting that Australia had a figure like Ned. It's weird but fun to learn.
Yeah, Ned Kelly in Australia is almost always treated as a heroic figure, or at best told in a somewhat balanced manner.
Very few cast him as an outright villain.
Robin hood is an apt comparison in terms of legend. I wouldn't say Ned Kelly had any of the grandiose noble aims that are attributed to Robin Hood, but it's more in how the stories are told, rather than the details that makes them seem like similar figures.
Ned leaves jail with a determination to turn his life around, and a badass beard. Seriously, that's a beard worth a 3 year prison sentence for
well,you're damn right
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Super Lets look at the facts. Ned Kelly was found a job by a police sergeant and that sergeant gave him money to get home and go to the job. Ned Kelly did not take up the job, did not pay the money back as he promised, then he turned to a life as a criminal.
@@samsabastian5560 Where are your sources?
@@samsabastian5560 sources please.
damn that was a cold move of the uncle, even for me
Robert Walpole well let's be honest you did it.
Weakling, nothing is too cold for a Walpole. Especially when profit is on the line.
i did not say i would not do it, but its still a cold move when someone else do it
As a Walpole, you must learn to let ethics go. Ethics cannot buy you a house, nor can it feed your starving family.
You monster! They were innocent, innocent I tell you! You started this whole thing by bribing the police who arrested the father, didn't you? How could you!
"Thou call'dst me dog before thou hadst a cause;
But, since I am a dog, beware my fangs."
- Shylock, The Merchant of Venice
I could just imagine the squatters talking
“Who robbed us!”
“Ned Kelly!”
“Wait what! I thought he stopped bushranging!”
“He left a note, it says,”if you want me to be a criminal, then I’ll be one”
“Well damn! I never thought he’d actually do it!”
So a bit of background about what's going on here. Why are they such jerks to the Kelly's (aside from the fact they're poor)? Because at this time in Britain and her colonies there's this belief that criminality isn't a choice as much as it's natural and instinctive, you inherit it from your parents. Here's Ned Kelly son of that thief Red, right? Makes sense that he's a thief too, or at least in this view. In fact so prevalent is this belief it's one of the reasons they colonized Australia, they wanted a place to ship all these criminals away from Britain to clean up the gene pool so to say. It's better than killing them outright right?
@@jlord9638 Of course they didn’t.
Thanks Victoria!
@J Lord
Of course they didn't, we believe you...
So Ned Kelly's plan was... horse laundering? :P
Bank robbery, extortion, kidnapping and murder.
...Yes, I'm aware he did those things, too. I was referring specifically to the plan at 9:05. But, uh... thanks for contributing?
Initially.
He started Australia's first Horse and Wagon Wash While You Wait.
I mean it's better than his first plan, which he came up with in *plain sight* of the guy who he was going to do it to.
The police protecting the interest of the rich? I never heard of such madness.
Luckly that doesn't happen nowdays, right?
Soulcaster sorry but it still happened including down here in the world down under.
TheQuackerGaming it’s sarcasm
Yeah I’m pretty sure if u try to bribe the police with money you’ll be put in jail I dunno for sure but that’s what trash skool told me
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge
@@DUX505 its funny you missed the joke, but were correct also. so you get a pass
I love Extra History. It gets me through the week.
Same here. ;)
Don't we all? :)
Robert Walpole We meet again Walpole;) Seen you in the comments section everywhere
Robert Walpole on the channel
and historiacivilis
By my count, there are now at least three different Robert Walpole accounts working the comments sections of these videos.
...He's cloning himself to build the perfect army to conquer the world at last. :O
He has a hand in everything who would suspect it...his ultimate goal world domination.
My time-travelling escapades had made several versions of me. Not sure if I want to fix it since . . . it's me.
A little bit of time travel does wonders. But also tends to make extra Walpoles in the process.
time remnant
That horsie is so cute
I know right
You sound like Catherine the Great.
Debunked, and in the lies episode of this channel, too. :P
Thanks ! I don´t know how to draw realistic horsies ^.^
Thanks !
Ned had earned the attention of the local police - and their ire. Soon, suspicion dogged his every action.
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is a criminal in a horrible world a criminal?
So all this episode wasn't just Ned's side of the story right? most of them were verifiable historical accounts?
This is very true even today. Where a person out of jail tries to live an honest life but with his criminal record he can't find work and if he did its hardly sustainable. So in order to survive they have to go back to their life of crime. The only ones I know that have beaten this catch 22 were people with a very good skill (e.g. electrician) set and even then they have to work much harder in order to keep their job.
Yes. Does it make them a bad person? That is the difficult question.
You want to know what a bad person looks like? look at someone when they both have power, and when they have none, and see what they do in both situations. Take into account the situations and culture they find themselves in before judging actions.
If you ask me Ned Kelly broke under the weight of an unjust system and did some horrible things as a result, but at least managed to maintain some dignity towards the end from what little I've read. Ned Kelly was no hero, but under the circumstances I can't judge him as being a "bad" person.
Ned Kelly: **Breathes**
Police: “GiVE HIm FiVe YEaRs Of HaRD LaBoUr!”
Oh wow, this story is so good. Why are there no animations about this? With a little bit of twisting this could even be a family film.
There was a live action film made about Ned Kelly around the turn of the millennium, but from what I'm told it took many, MANY creative liberties. But I agree, it would be awesome to see a historically accurate animated version of the tales of Ned Kelly.
It gets darker.
there are heaps of Ned Kelly films, but they were made in Australian and most Americans don't watch "foreign films" so they hardly get noticed.
Yeah. I wouldn't say Ned Kelley would be "family friendly" due to him, on one of his last crimes, killed many people.
Don't take my word for that though. I haven't learned about Ned since a long time ago.
The FIRST feature-length film ever produced is titled "The Story of the Kelly Gang" (1906).
man people don't realize how good we have it today...
For a second I thought Ned would meet a kind old bishop who had these certain silver furnitures....
Maybe he could have turned his life around too if someone had shown him that kind of kindness.
the priest and the monks
Who is this person?
@@christophersudbrink4946 it's a reference to Les Miserables. The protagonist, Jean, is an ex-convict who is given a second chance by a bishop who he tries to steal from. The bishop refuses to press charges, and gifts Jean the things he tried to steal, with instructions to use the gifts to give himself a better life.
@@metarcee2483 Ah! I see! I’ve heard of Les Miserables!
How do you steal 5 cows? FIVE. He took FIVE ENTIRE COWS.
That takes skill.
He rolled a nat 20 on his pickpocket skill.
it's not that hard if you know what you're doing really
A small number of cattle can be moved on foot with a switch and some food. Just herd them along. It's even easier on horseback, as if they're not used to people and they spook, you can easily outpace them.
emmakatenotcake BUT HE IS 14
why is this not a hollywood movie yet?
Because Ned is Australian.
There is a few movies about Ned Kelly out there, but I've never seen one that details his early life :/
literally the first ever feature film ever made in1906 is about Ned Kelly...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_the_Kelly_Gang
There was one with Heath Ledger as Ned Kelly.
It is, starring Heath Ledger.
this series has aged so well...
also Ned Kelly was the og iron man
*Constable* "Why is Ned Kelly, the Dirt Poor Troublemaker, riding a High Quality Horse like that? Hm...Sounds like he Stole it!" "Hey! Get down from there!" *Ned* "Eh? What's up pig?" *Constable* "You are my prisoner for Horse Stealing!" *Makes a Jump at Ned but fails miserably, oh and the horse starts running off* *Ned* "Ey! Wait! Horse! Come back!" *Constable* "HEY! STOP RUNNING!" *Ned Turns around and says* "Wot!?" *See's the Revolver pointed at his Face and says...* "Wot!?"
It's not fair that the society Ned lives in thinks that if he tries bush ranging he would always be a thief. I am soooooo happy that he got his vengeance. He lived in this world trying to forget his past .
I would love to see the story of Ned Kelly produced into a live action mini-series.
Last year I spent a whole semester learning about this guy. I've learned more in a few hours than I did in 6 months.
b4rbaric Nothing in this video is factual. It's all a load of garbage.
this sound a bit like Les miserables
The guy who wrote Les miserables was exiled to Jersey by Napoleon III
As long as it wasn't New Jersey, that would have been cruel
East coast is the Best coast. Fact of life.
The guy was Victor Hugo. He also wrote the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
6:28
And I though that Emus were the biggest problem for Australian farmers.
They are, secretly disguised as rich people!
emus? dude they affect less than 10% of farmers, drought affects everyone when it comes, salinity, low soil quality, feral foxes, the cost price squeeze create but a super market duopoly. these are things that hurt farmers in Australia.
yeah because a cull from 1932 is an ongoing concern for farmers.
Amy Forbes-Richardson *Sitting in a rocking chair smoking a pipe by the light of a weakening fireplace* The ghosts of the Great Emu War haunt every farmer. We all fought, we all served. Except...it wasn't even really service was it? It was survival. That's what we were doing. A farmer back then didn't have much choice. There was no desertion even. It was just you and a wall of feathers anywhere you went. Crazed, those birds. Crazed. It was like Hitchcock meets Zulu and I was Michael Caine. So does it matter? Does that suicide mission dressed up as a war matter to farmers now? Why don't you ask the boys, from farm hand owner, whose souls went back to the Lord on the field at Campion. Yes it still matters.
I've said it before, but I LOVE extra history.
This is turning out to be my favorite EH series. It sucks that I have to wait 5 more weeks for that awesome music though.
"He learned to ride on his mothers lap" 😂😂😂
Great episode guys! Keep it up!
funisfun Keep what up? The myths that is promoted in this video. Not a fact anywhere to be seen.
This is probably tied for my favorite extra history series. Its tied with the sengoku Jidai and admiral yi
Admiral, not general.
and Yi, not li.
I think you mean Sengoku "Jidai".
Admiral Yi was so awesome. That series made him one of my favorite historical figure
Guys, I'm pretty sure he was misspelling all of them on purpose.
When being poor becomes a crime...
J Lord no shit not everyone is the same.
J Lord mate how many times have you commented this nobody cares about your south east australi empire
Drecon84 Where did you dream up that fiction. Ned Kelly with his thieving of poor settlers horses lived the high life.
This is why I love extra history, because of these incredibly told stories I would never hear anywhere else
Noah Wick You must realise that what is in this video is total and complete fiction.
That moment when you learn more about a national legend from a foreigner than from your home country. Then again, much of it is likely to be blown up.
Zappyguy National legend? Are you completely mad?
I love the art style of this. Especially the horses :3
There is one *VERY* important question:Where.Is.WALPOLE!?
I'm sure Walpole was the one who came up with the whole "Fine, give the poors a bit of your government farmland, but if you bribe me you can just give them the shitty bits" idea in the first place.
Behind it all of course!
His great great grandson moved to Australia and became a squatter.
RandomGerman Guy Not joking this time, research the Walpole River ending in the town of Walpole Australia. The river itself was named for Captain William Walpole. Great, great nephew of...
Old Gus Robert Walpole?
I wonder what happened to the Walpole family
Damn I always thought Aussie history was boring, and I'm Australian!
Nope
You seen us in war? Were unstoppable
@@djkaibaxter419 What are you, an emu?
@@shardtheduraludon get out of this country
Riley Graham What is presented here is not history. It's a load of made up rubbish.
Harry Power has a lightning scar, HAHA.
Its amazing how Ned made all those things without any arms
Well, I'd never heard about Ned Kelly's earlier years and before, my only thought of him was that he was a petty thief and murderer in a tin suit. But damn, this is actually stirring up genuine sympathy in me. For a murderer, of all people.
That being said, raise your hand if you're an Aussie like me and all smug because you know how this story ends!
i knew how it started too
Just imagine how many thousands of your ancestors are killers. Murder can be justified, even in modern Australia there are instances where you can legally murder someone. Self defence, for instance.
Dominic Tee what you have heard and seen here is fiction through and through. Kelly was a serious murdering criminal.
This is such an amazing story. History's Awesome in the hands of talented passionate people
We're from Australia; we were never taught this in history at school O_O...
vincedelicious Why would you be. It's a load of garbage.
Even though this was posted a while ago I still want to say that it’s nice to have people recognising and telling our history.
Ashleigh Bashleigh HISTORY? If you think this presentation is real, you need a brain transplant.
Great video, mate! Keep doing it!
amarjit saggu mates*
So far, this series is tied with Catherine the Great and the Brother's Gracchi for my favorite series of EH. Also has my favorite music. Keep up the Great work!
@Extra Credits One of my Great-great-great-however many 'great's-grandfather lived on the farm next to the Kelly Family. He knew Ned as a kid and, as I've heard it passed down, that Ned was a charming little rascal. Apparently the Kelly family was very hospitable. I've been to the Glenrowan, Greta, Beechworth and all the main places of events from those days. I've seen the grave of the man who shot Ned Kelly during the siege of Glenrowan. The Groundskeeper said that it's funny how many people come from all over Australia to spit on his grave because they claim they're related to the Kelly family, people come from Brisbane, Cairns, Darwin, Perth and even Broome to 'see' the grave.
Ned Kelly: OH YOU WANT THIEVES! I'LL GIVE YOU THIEVES
Can you guys do Ghengis Khan next?
armani nae Only the patrons get to choose episode topics.
Natasel+ Someone had to say it.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAANN!!!
FUck yea! I'm currently reading some historical fiction about the life of Genghis Khan, and his life is fucking legendary
they've done it.
What a fascinating story so far. I'm looking forward to the ass-kicking revenge part!
Just the begging shows people become criminals because they're forced to, not because they are inherently bad people.
It's a fair generalization.
Well, yeah, but a lot of egotistic assholes become CEO's of large companies instead.
Somehow we reward certain kinds of assholes with the best-paying jobs around, while at the same time treating others as garbage.
Society is pretty weird like that.
you could also argue that stealing an animal from someone well enough to just TAKE land that doesn't belong to them isn't really that big of a crime.
Desperate does ugly things to people
@@geneirai Ned Kelly mostly stole horses from poor settlers, some of them Irish. There were so Squatters left in the Greta area during Kelly's activity with horse stealing. He boasted that he had stolen at least 280 horses.
OMG! I love your animation!! This is super educational for me!
So a little early for this since the series isn't even over yet but can the next series please be about the Marquis de Lafayette. Please.
Phuong Ho Yeah!
are you a patron supporter? i dont think so. so no suggestions for you.
*I'm this horse by the reins, making redcoats redder with bloodstains*
I actually lived in Coburg until recently, where he was held for those three years at the HM Prison Pentridge. It isn't active anymore and one of my friends used to live in the houses they've started making around it, I lived across the street (an incredible long street though) from it. The signs there like to brag about them holding Ned Kelly there and so do my primary (briefly) and high (less briefly) schools that are incredibly close.
Justice, what's that?
Ned was a hero.
Flavio Chavez Only to the ignorant.
Love these vids so much
This is beautiful. You need to do more stuff like this.
Communists would worship him , fighting against Bourgeois , class struggle
Babita The only thing Ned Kelly fought against was the police who were trying to bring his criminality under control. There was no class struggle. That is made up BS.
@@samsabastian5560 fool
The horses that your artists draw are so cute
A question since I wanted to support Extra Credits on Patreon. There's this line about suggesting a historical character: "Tell us what historical period or person we should make a future series about! (Must be 1920s or earlier.)". Are people who were mostly active in the 1910's and the 1920's but also had some part to play in the 1930's eligible?
I'm pretty sure that is there mainly to keep them from getting bombarded with suggestions regarding WWII and later.
I'm asking mostly because the person I wanted to suggest (Marshall Joseph Pilsudski) died in 1935, and I'm not sure if he's eligible.
Almost 1 million subs! You guys deserve it!
oh heck yeah
I studied Ned Kelly in school in history and in English via a fictional "mock" autobiography. On neither occasions did I learn of the ingeniously simple cattle laundering scheme. Thank you EC for filling in where education failed.
Alright everyone, put all the likes in the bag. I have a gun and I know how to use it!
**dislikes**
Shoot me and be done with it.
*BANG*
"Shoot me and be damned!"
*click*
I'd *like* to see you try
elegantly simple cartoons..nice simple but humorous commentary / dialogue , well done , good story telling
That horse accusation feels a lot like some of the recent deaths in america...
Remember remeber Kelly back in November, the gun, cattle, prison plot.... i know of no reason why the guns, cattle, prison should ever be forgot... Kelly Prevails!!!
2:27 lol blaze it
This really needs to be a game, hell, rockstar could use this story
Do you have resources for these Extra History episodes? I'd love to use some of them for projects and such.
ned : lets not do that again
ned : lets go bushranging again
they should do kunta kinte after this
GreyWolfLeaderTW partially does not mean fully, and Kunta Kinte was a real person who became a slave and died a person. Yes some facts were made up for reasons and circumstances., such as the period of time. And some today are related to Kunta Kinte in real life.
Enjoying these immensely, cheers
Hi, I love the videos you guys make but in this one I cant figure out why the "wealthy squatters" are called that. Isn't a squatter somebody that's staying on somebody else's land? How do you become wealthy doing that?
As an American who is also used to hearing "squatter" associated with poverty, this threw me for a loop as well. ;) In Australia, colonists who arrived early and/or had a lot of money would go out and build ranches on "unclaimed" land. The British Crown considered that land the territory of their government, hence these people were squatting on government land... BUT they also got to build these big ranches before anybody else did, which made them even more rich. By the time the colonial governments in Australia got around to trying to reclaim that land, the squatters had become very well established and successfully fought off (most of) the government's attempts to take their property back. Many felt that they had earned the land by risking their necks to settle it - Australia has always been famous for its deadly wildlife/climate/etc. Eventually, the word "squatter" came to be associated with rich people whether or not they'd earned their property by squatting on it. Look up the "squattocracy" ("squatter aristocracy") if you want to learn more about it!
NB: All of this is a pretty Euro-centric summary of what "squatters" were. The land they were squatting on belonged to the aboriginal people, which they refused to recognize. -Soraya
The housing market down here is so stuffed these days that Im considering finding a nice slice of crown land for myself.
@@extrahistory In 1860 the Victoria government enacted The Lands Act that took the land back from the squatters. There were some problems with the legislation, but by 1869 the squatters had been defeated, and the settlers had won. Note that was well before the Kelly outbreak. Kelly mainly stole from poor settlers, as there were very few squatters left in that area.
Ned Kelly: Armoured Outlaw on Steam! Pew pew!
A couple of points (minor ones). You didn't include the part where Ned meets up with Wild Wright (who stole the horse that landed him in prison) and had a 21 round bare-knuckle boxing match with him and won (the two became friends afterwards). Additionally Ned didn't work as a blacksmith, he was a "treefeller" (another word for lumberjack) and was actually very successful at it. He also worked for a time as a bricklayer and the overseer at a sawmill. Not major stuff as you can see, but just little touches that help shape Ned's character in this period of his life. Otherwise I'm loving this series!
I got an ad for a lawn mower called the bushranger
This is always how law is, when was the last time you've seen a rich person go to jail for doing something illegal
I live in Australia and your teaching me more about Ned Kelly and in a more entertaining way than our schools ever could
Lachlan There are no facts in this video at all.
@@samsabastian5560 long live the legend
Im not afraid of his history. Im just afraid of those horses. Noice outro music
Achievement get: fought Ned Kelly
Description: fight Ned Kelly and don't OOF.
Ned would be a kickass Water Margin character
THIS. THIS IS WHY NED IS A GOD DAMNDED HERO!
Ned Kelly, a legend in every way
InmdiekidDrugPatrol Murderers do not quality as legends.
Genuinely, when you let your system get THAT corrupt, you deserve a robber stealing everything you fucking own. The moment your greed overtakes your morals, you deserve to lose everything.
VoxlKnight Corrupt you say? WHERE? The Royal Commission did not find any corruption. So if you claim there was corruption, show us what you have got?
"SHOOT ME AND BE DAMNED!"
*gun jams*
"WHAT DID I JUST SAY!?"
As the old saying goes, when someone has nothing left to give you can push them no further.
Loving this series! Pretty sad that Australia was so harsh back in the day.
Classic T.J. Harsh? Very harsh for Ned Kelly's victims. That is for sure.
I chuckled a bit at the Half asleep Ned kelly going “Whaaaa?”