Cheers for this Charlie saw it at weekend couldn't wait to try it been on price 9 years always long spreaded got labourer to time a course once I'd got to grips with the technique 9.5 meters gable 8 and half mins old way 7 mins pick and dipping that's a massive difference you've literally made us more money in one vid always like to watch other proper brickies doing it just to see there ways any way cheers mi old look forward to more vids
Ive been a bricklayer for 30 years, I don’t think theres a right or wrong way to lay bricks , as long as you find a technique that suits you and the end result is neat. Interesting video anyway 👍
My mwthod currently is to scoop it off the floor and balance the mortar on my brick not knowing im using the plasterers mix haha. Jesus loves you man❤ God be with you
Hi Charlie I’m a retired brickie wish I’d known about this method when I was younger. It’s certainly a lot faster than old traditional method. Well done for putting it out for other brickies to learn or decide which method they prefer. I know which one I’d use. Cheers well done.
You made that pick and dip look smooth. I can lay brick faster spreading the mud first. The pick and dip is awkward to me. Then again, I have been doing it the normal way for 26 years. I also use an 11" trowel (London pattern)and my wrist never gets sore. My technique puts little strain on my wrist. I don't roll my mortar, I cut a sliver out of the pile on the board with the back of my trowel, scoop it and swing in to the wall and spread it. I try to always look for ways to do things that make it easier on my body as well. Cool video.
Pick and dip, used to be called the “pull on” method years ago and we would always use this method when building jack walls in 9 or 13.5 brickwork. Great stuff mate
Dyou know what Charlie your the first person I’ve seen explain and show the difference in long spread or pick and dip , I’ve heard about this method but the man who taught me used the traditional method so that’s what I’ve stuck with for 15 years , however I’m gonna give this pick and dip a go as I think it looks more fluid and easier. I’d imagine it’s gonna be hard to change my style but I’m gonna give it a go 👍🏻
Thanks Charli as an old retired bricklayer II have learnt something new and by the look of it a lot more efficient , I have a small job to finish this week and am looking forward to trying out the new method , maybe old dogs can learn new tricks , and save on wear and tear on my body , Thanks for your very informative vids , should be in every apprentice course
I’m a landscaper and I do a few garden walls , this is how I have laying been laying bricks but I always thought I hope no one sees me cos I’m doing it wrong but it turns out to be a proper method . Great channel and top top work 👍. The pick and dip method by the way 😂
Love it looks like its getting built whit easy must give it a try and the comparison between the two methods was very interesting thanks for filming 👍👍👍🧱🧱
I have an interesting comment to throw into the mix. Me and my mate have been laying for 25 years each, we have worked together for 5 years, he uses the pick and dip method with small trowel and is efficient at it, I use the traditional method with an 11 inch trowel efficiently. Now he would be the first to admit that on average I get down more, only slightly but more all the same. I put it down to being ultra efficient using the least amount of movement as possible to get the wall up. Must add there is no difference in the cleanness between us. So to end my comment isn’t a exact science just a observation that I thought would fit this upload. Keep up the good work mucker👍
Nes Storms I can do both as fast as each other if I want to... I find it much more stress on my body though doing traditional method. Pic and dip is just a more relaxed easy method for me personally. But each to there own what ever makes you happy 👌🏼
Steve A I first started using this method because I was laying buff bricks with white mixer muck. And needed to lay the brick as quick as possible. I like this method and just wanted to show another way of laying bricks. Appreciate your comment though👍
Saw this method 30 years ago in Germany used with a square trowel and the mud is taken from large open buckets easy to keep clean and you can move them about when half full all the facework was raked out so full perps wasn't really needed because a team of jointers came and pointed up the whole house in about 2 days !!
Little tip charlie. When u scrape the muck off the freshly laid brick, don't throw it back on the board. Use it to perp the next brick. This way u combine the english with the continental system, and it is as fast.
Hi champ love your vids , it so makes sense pic n dip is such a better method. More money 💰 in your back pocket .i am an x roof tiler I used practices like your methods in Australia and roof tiled 30yrs my mates lasted 15 to 20 cheers Charlie . Keep up the great vids .
Great video Charlie have seen this method on Glenn Veness youtube videos he is a older bricky who has worked on the continent years ago dont know if you have come across him on hear but is worth a look if you have not already and like you proved this method more productive nice to see a young tradesman thinking the same at the end of the day the more you lay the bigger the pay if on price work, look forward to your next video
Hi Charlie I had to leave the trade twenty odd years ago due to ill health & this is the first time I've seen the pic & dip method & I certainly like the look of this method you demonstrate it very well it gets a thumbs up from me 👍love the videos too mate keep em coming.
@@chrisn.2002 +1 for South America! I used to work as a bricky over there, and we used the same technique. Except the brick shapes were all over the place. More like a banana, than a brick! :D
Depends on the muck and brick. We lay mostly dry cored 3x10 bricks in Canada, long spreads on cool damp days, Pick and dip when it’s warm and the mud is shite. Bricklaying is about adapting and producing the most in a certain situation . I’ve gotten other guys on shorter spreads years ago because I hate hearing hammers banging on fresh bricks, but most brick layers suck and don’t care to produce.
I just love watching your videos! Better than the telly! I wish I was thirty years younger! I have shown my son in Law and grandsons and they are going to take it up. There are a lot of good brickies putting up vids! We all watch Rob Songer who is a serious artisan! Take a look at his work
MrFlynnytwo thanks mate that’s good to no. So little people taking it up anymore. I’m subbed to him. He’s knowledge on brickwork is far better than mine! My input is just really how to be more organised and make a bit more money so make sure you show them these if they do bricklaying 👍
Pick N Dip is also used in the United States a lot. I've used both methods and both methods are quite popular here depending on what part of the country your in. It also depends on what your building and the type of brick. I do a lot of chimney work so it's a bit different than laying on a wall but I'm in the northeast part of the country in Massachusetts aka New England. Here the union brickys are taught the pick n dip method in school. It's definitely more efficient and way less trips back and fourth to the bricks n boards And it's also easier on the wrists with the smaller trowels. One trip equals 1 brick. Grab mud and brick at the same time and stay in the same spot. Your not back and fourth taking multiple trips running up and down the wall that being said I've seen masons do both really well and I can do both fast but the so called 'traditional method" takes a lot more energy and I have to hustle more to get the same amount of out put. . Also, dry brick is way easier to lay with this method. The weather here is radical from 0 degrees Fahrenheit in winter to 100. Degrees Fahrenheit i the summer. So pick n dip is much more useful on those hot days when spreading mud. Just the other day it was only a few degrees above freezing ( 37'F )when I left for work at 5:30 am and at lunch it was 80 degrees Fahrenheit and we were sweating our butts off and getting sunburned with our shirts off lol
Bricky I served my time with did something similar. When he got his next brick he would butter the end of it before taking a trowel of mud, spread the trowel and then lay the brick. Had a full perp each time and he only went to the spot board once per brick. I could match him on speed or better him by one brick spreading a different way to traditional but I would effectively use more energy. This way of laying in the video is great because your body is going to last a lot longer, have less aches and pains at the end of the day. Cheers 👍
Been laying brick nearly forty years and used every method pic and dip is the fastest method because there is no wasted motion , your cutting down the trips by lifting and laying brick every time you go to the spot board.
I feel you would have laid more bricks using the traditional long bed spread, in the allotted time, if you would have buttered your vertical joints with the excess mortar you collected from your previous brick.
Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. I was taught to always have both hands full when turning back to the wall as you’re movement is twice as efficient. This video demonstrates the logic in that.
Hey Charlie, try buttering the cross joint in front , it saves a lot of strain on your wrist and also better control so as avoiding even less potential mess on the floor . Just a thought .... great video BTW .
Good, worthwhile experiment. Especially with that kind of brick (with the frog up, or that scooped-out top of brick.? whatever you Brits call it?), the dip and sip works clearly better than traditional. And I think it most likely works better with the traditional 3-hole brick used in America, 'working at an average pace'. But for breaking speed records, got to do it the traditional way, Fast.. That's how the world record was set in 1987 or 1988 it was, in Michigan.? There's TH-cam videos of it.. But very good experiment.
Mate, they keep changing their minds over frog up or frog down. In the NW of the UK it was changed to frog down because they reckoned that the wetter colder weather was holding in the bricks easier and causing more problems and damage!
Good video mate. Keep them coming. Good to see you backing up your technique with proof. I've never tried this method but I think I will be giving it ago. How many bricks are you laying a day on average? And are your spots plastering ones?
As a comment below, seen this in Germany in the early 90's. 3 polish guys versed us Brits. We were all using traditional method, they used this pic and dip method. Absolutley smasehed us all of us in our early 20's at the time. However I never got to grips with it, I still have to perp a brick. Old dogs and new tricks n'ole dogs and all that.
Liking the technique. Cant see much reason to knock it. I would say however, that if were building my own house, I would butter every brick with a few scrapes of the trowel. Especially on stocks. Just for piece of mind re bonding adhesion. If were tiling a kitchen splash back, I would spread the wall and stick the tiles on directly. But if tiling a shower floor, I would back butter each tile. Butter the floor then spread the mortar to guarantee maximum coverage and adhesion. But I do see this fast and easy laying style as smart system for saving time on certain viable bricks. And for certain situations. Great videos btw.
Great video I've learned something today. At the end of the day it's about money, less movement = more speed = more money. I personally like rob songer's method same concept just slighty different than yours i'll definitely give this try it just looks so much easier!
Gun_man 123 exactly. Rob is by far the most talented bricklayer I’ve seen. But I’m a price house basher. And make money but being efficient and consistent. This method makes each day less effort trust me. Takes a bit of getting used to but once you do you’ll love it👍
You are a 100% right as you have just proved it, I seen it in one of your other videos and i have given it a go but I will keep at it now I have seen this video till I master it as it makes sense and it's all about getting the brick down in the most efficient way possible,great uploads I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers as your uploads are not just a bricklayer laying brick but they are full of tips for other bricklayers and lads starting out to be more efficient👍
I step forward & spread pulling back towards me ( about 4- 5 ft in 2 good spreads ) ,, so as your backing up to the start again . Then bust that out & do it again. I throw a head joint on the brick I just laid & grab another brick ,,, instead of grabbing & buttering . We worked like we were killing snakes . Good job though , nice pace
Hi Charlie used this method for years and came naturally, when house bashing. totally agree nothing wrong with this method lot more neater more control better pace but can only use them with certain bricks yore gonna be a blinding trowel .only thing about this i can't get used to the way its called pick and lay sounds like I'm sweets from a shop as when i was a kid i would get sweets from the pick and mix perhaps call it the TURBO method keep laying geezer.
I wish I had some brick to lay 🙁, not many brick in Alaska. Almost exclusively block work up here. I love laying block but some brick every now and again would be fun.
What’s up bro. First off love the video. I’m and American bricky so we do things a slight different here but I really enjoyed your video. Also I like the pic n dip method you are showing. I’ll try that on the next house I brick. The method I use is similar but different. I kinda combines the two. I do it for speed reasons as it is only myself and a helper and I try to get 2000 in the wall a day that way. Love the fact that you show that the head joint gets 80 percent full with the pic n dip and the other 20 is filled with the next course of mud. Loved the video. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more in the future!
Bearded Bricky 2000 a day with one laborer.?.🤔 Very impressive. ..My personal best was little over 1700 in 8 hours on long straight run with few cuts, but I had 3 Mexican labors trying to keep up with me (and I was doing all my own striking, would not allow them to go there🤖). ..also it was a perfect October day, 62 degrees Fahrenheit, no humidity. .. when I was an apprentice in 1987, a young punk trying to prove myself.😅
Alright Charlie Nice video, with interesting results! Been putting 1 on 2 for 12 years plus now and always used traditional, always love new tips and ways to make the job easier and more enjoyable! Thinkin of putting a vid up myself :) keep goin pal!
Here in the Netherlands we only lay bricks by pic n dip. No corner build only callibrated wooden masson profiles we call em. So you only level the corners once. Profiles go up about 3 meters in lenght.
Great video .. in Denmark we only do pick n dip. Most people do it reverse though, and the trowel is more ergonomic. It is designed so that the balance is better with mug on, and it dosn’t put so much strain on your wrist. Look up the word “Opmurering” and you will see what i mean. Thank you for posting .. oh and another thing In my mind it’s crazy that there hasn’t been invented any helping aids, machinery etc. that feeds you the brick or spreads the mortar. Food for thought .. why not seperate the spreading mortar part from the actually brick work part... the bricky is the skilled and costly labour, he should only lay bricks wihout turning or putting mortar on .. It would be great to see this theori tested Thanks again
It's not just a helping aid it's a complete replacement. It's called Hadrian X. Still in development and no doubt will have it's limitations to begin with but natural progression will only see it evolve into go anywhere, lay anything one stop bricklaying machine.
@@lmilne4859 I pick and dip and I have learned to use the mud I cut to put a decent perp on to keep from falling low.or dragging too much mortar. It really helps me
Great video Charlie and a lot of lessons to be learned by everyone. Just a thought, when you are working 'forwards' I noticed that instead of buttering the end of the brick furthest away, you twisted your wrist and buttered the end of the brick closest to you. Do you think that you could be straining your wrist in the future? Maybe a few hundred thousand times doing that motion, could lead to a repetitive strain injury. Sorry to sound like I'm nagging, but as a 6ft 19st bloke pushing fifty with a dodgy back, I don't want to see a first class builder have problems. All the best mate.
I’m an English bricky that lives in Norway. Pick and dip must be used here. Regulations are against spreading more than one brick at time due to mud drying out and you can’t furrow either because they will be voids. It is paramount here that you put your joint on the brick though to ensure full perps. It’s obviously more effective to do it you way but you could see they were holes all over your wall before you jointed.
I can see that you personally like “pic n dip” or prefer it to long bed👍🏻, in South Africa i prefer long bed (but not that long), weather does not permit it basically....mix will to dry by the time you get to the sixth brick and to heavy on the shoulder at +13 coarses
This is the way the Dutch are doing it. Also, they use a round shape trowel and scrape the mortar back 10 mm whereas a grouter comes to finish it of with a (lime-sand) mix hence the brick will last longer period and face of the brick will survive the frost in winters
I've been trying it since your last vid mate and couldn't agree more, not used to it propley yet but getting there! I've only been in the trade couple of years and wrists are feeling it already... get myself a 10inch I reckon
My opinion I prefer going the other side and is faster, I’m will try but don’t think for me will be faster as I no I can my way , thanks tho , good lad keep up the good work,love watching ur videos, thanks
Alright Charlie ,do you use pick and dip when building corners?? Also what about on engineerings,when the mucks a bit wet they slip about unless your gentle ,Does the extra bed with no voids have much of an effect on this,don't want diving bricks.
One thing I have noticed with the traditional way. You perp the brick at the spot. I perp the brick whilst carrying to the bed joint. This would make a quicker method.
love your videos, makes me want to go out and build a wall! could do with some better editing through, like a spit screen of the two method or something 👍
It's no doubt you lay a good brick both ways. You're a skilled bricky. I only expressed a concern in a previous video that brought a lot of attention that there's a ton of mud coming out the back of the bed that cannot be cleaned out on cavity veneer walls; leaving it there to soak up water or fall behind the wall potentially blocking weepers. You explained shortly after that you can angle the brick to minimize this potential hazard of mud coming out the bed. In this particular example you are easily able to clean the back of the wall which is no problem at all. I just happen to see a potential flaw with that the "pick and dip method" when it comes to cavity veneer walls in particular. I've never tried this style personally. but am going to give a try. I'm sure it's a fine method if many parts of the world do it and continute to do so. No hate mate, was just voicing what's noticeable. Keep up the vids. Perhaps doing a video on the trick of angling the brick to minimize the mud out the back without having tilted out of plumb bricks would be a goody. Cheers.
There's me about to start building my own extension for the first time and thinking how long it's going to take me and this guy is throwing them up super fast for the fun of it lol Fancy doing a free TH-cam video round mine one time? You can show the views how long you can lay 1500 bricks 😋 think of it as a completion/challenge rather than work hehe
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@@KevinColt you are quite right, and i entirely agree, life moves on and professions change. But somebody who dives a car does NOT call himself a 'horse-rider, So if all you can do is stick up profiles and run in, call yourself a semi-skilled laborer, and not a 'bricklayer'. as you saying that trade no longer exists. .
and as somebody (retired bricklayer also) said to me yesterday, after I had replied: A co-pilot is called a 'co-pilot' because he cannot yet take off and land, he can only do the easy bit in the middle. Charlie, my original comment was only an observation from a retired bricklayer, but as kevin's reply seem to imply I was 'stupid' for being able to build a corner faster than it takes to put up a profile, I thought he should be informed that I am quite aware the world moves on.
OK... So. I'm self teaching myself bricklaying.. Cos I can afford to do it as a hobby.. Who knows maybee I'll do it to earn a living... I digress.. I'm a big fan of stu crompton and I've learnt a Shitloads from his vids.. His traditional laying is an art imho.. Your obvs a very skilled traditional brickie too but fuck mate this pic n dip has propper opened my eyes 👀.. I'm bang on it tmrw... Science. Maths and plain old common sense tells me it's a better way to go. Ain't gotta be a rocket scientist have you.. Fuckin ace bud.. Thanks👍👌
Me personally I think the pick and dip only works if you get muck that's nice and smooth . Your much spreads easy like butter on bread . On site you get shitty muck
My opinion is that the pick n dip would create more opportunities for holes if not done correctly. Also untill the pick n dip is mastered I believe alot of mud would be wasted , but to each his own . No right or wrong way to lay brick as long as the end result is plumb and true
Grom Killer the biggest advantage of This method is that it is much less wear and tear on your joints. Apart from that just as much can be done either way
I like it mate, not done it as I'm mostly on stone. people can argue which is quicker, what I take from it is how much more effortless pick n dip looks compared to traditional. People can stick to their old ways but this will be classed as "traditional" in the rest of Europe and works well for them! Also I've found some box section gauged profiles, would u recommend them? Even for blockwork, ta.
adam chandler the main point I’m trying to make in this video is that it’s less effort in every way. Glad you could see that 👍 I use levels have a look through my videos you’ll see them. I used box section before that but you have to check them. No need if it’s a 2m level as you can just see 👌🏼
@@CharlieCollison cheers had a look for them 2m staco levels sold out everywhere must be making them popular 😂. Enjoy your vids mate hope to see more soon 👍
When you are long spreading and working from left to right why don't you butter the perp of the brick you have just laid with the mortar off the bed cut off ?? Its quicker .
Cheers for this Charlie saw it at weekend couldn't wait to try it been on price 9 years always long spreaded got labourer to time a course once I'd got to grips with the technique 9.5 meters gable 8 and half mins old way 7 mins pick and dipping that's a massive difference you've literally made us more money in one vid always like to watch other proper brickies doing it just to see there ways any way cheers mi old look forward to more vids
Fish and Bricks your welcome! Us brickys need to stick together 👌🏼
So hard to change, but I really want to try this method!
Ive been a bricklayer for 30 years, I don’t think theres a right or wrong way to lay bricks , as long as you find a technique that suits you and the end result is neat. Interesting video anyway 👍
My mwthod currently is to scoop it off the floor and balance the mortar on my brick not knowing im using the plasterers mix haha.
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Hi Charlie I’m a retired brickie wish I’d known about this method when I was younger. It’s certainly a lot faster than old traditional method. Well done for putting it out for other brickies to learn or decide which method they prefer. I know which one I’d use. Cheers well done.
You made that pick and dip look smooth. I can lay brick faster spreading the mud first. The pick and dip is awkward to me. Then again, I have been doing it the normal way for 26 years. I also use an 11" trowel (London pattern)and my wrist never gets sore. My technique puts little strain on my wrist. I don't roll my mortar, I cut a sliver out of the pile on the board with the back of my trowel, scoop it and swing in to the wall and spread it. I try to always look for ways to do things that make it easier on my body as well. Cool video.
Pick and dip, used to be called the “pull on” method years ago and we would always use this method when building jack walls in 9 or 13.5 brickwork. Great stuff mate
Dyou know what Charlie your the first person I’ve seen explain and show the difference in long spread or pick and dip , I’ve heard about this method but the man who taught me used the traditional method so that’s what I’ve stuck with for 15 years , however I’m gonna give this pick and dip a go as I think it looks more fluid and easier. I’d imagine it’s gonna be hard to change my style but I’m gonna give it a go 👍🏻
How you getting on?
Thanks Charli as an old retired bricklayer II have learnt something new and by the look of it a lot more efficient ,
I have a small job to finish this week and am looking forward to trying out the new method , maybe old dogs can learn new tricks , and save on wear and tear on my body ,
Thanks for your very informative vids , should be in every apprentice course
Dude... That's poetry. Your pick n dip technique looks a bit like a martial art. Great vid. Thanks.
first time i have seen a pic and dip method bricky laying forward not backward . thanks charlie
zaid hussain no worry’s. thank you
I’m a landscaper and I do a few garden walls , this is how I have laying been laying bricks but I always thought I hope no one sees me cos I’m doing it wrong but it turns out to be a proper method . Great channel and top top work 👍. The pick and dip method by the way 😂
I'm not a bricky , but i enjoy watching skilled work.Good video Thank you. Definitely one of the best comments sections !!
Love it looks like its getting built whit easy must give it a try and the comparison between the two methods was very interesting thanks for filming 👍👍👍🧱🧱
I have an interesting comment to throw into the mix. Me and my mate have been laying for 25 years each, we have worked together for 5 years, he uses the pick and dip method with small trowel and is efficient at it, I use the traditional method with an 11 inch trowel efficiently. Now he would be the first to admit that on average I get down more, only slightly but more all the same. I put it down to being ultra efficient using the least amount of movement as possible to get the wall up. Must add there is no difference in the cleanness between us.
So to end my comment isn’t a exact science just a observation that I thought would fit this upload.
Keep up the good work mucker👍
Nes Storms I can do both as fast as each other if I want to... I find it much more stress on my body though doing traditional method. Pic and dip is just a more relaxed easy method for me personally. But each to there own what ever makes you happy 👌🏼
Steve A I first started using this method because I was laying buff bricks with white mixer muck. And needed to lay the brick as quick as possible. I like this method and just wanted to show another way of laying bricks. Appreciate your comment though👍
Saw this method 30 years ago in Germany used with a square trowel and the mud is taken from large open buckets easy to keep clean and you can move them about when half full all the facework was raked out so full perps wasn't really needed because a team of jointers came and pointed up the whole house in about 2 days !!
Jimmy Mcdermott wasn’t they normally women who did the pointing as well
Lots of thought in helping other brickies out there, top banana!
Little tip charlie. When u scrape the muck off the freshly laid brick, don't throw it back on the board. Use it to perp the next brick. This way u combine the english with the continental system, and it is as fast.
Hi champ love your vids , it so makes sense pic n dip is such a better method. More money 💰 in your back pocket .i am an x roof tiler I used practices like your methods in Australia and roof tiled 30yrs my mates lasted 15 to 20 cheers Charlie . Keep up the great vids .
Very interesting video Charlie. Good of you to take the time to make it.
Great video Charlie have seen this method on Glenn Veness youtube videos he is a older bricky who has worked on the continent years ago dont know if you have come across him on hear but is worth a look if you have not already and like you proved this method more productive nice to see a young tradesman thinking the same at the end of the day the more you lay the bigger the pay if on price work, look forward to your next video
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Hi Charlie I had to leave the trade twenty odd years ago due to ill health & this is the first time I've seen the pic & dip method & I certainly like the look of this method you demonstrate it very well it gets a thumbs up from me 👍love the videos too mate keep em coming.
Pick an dip can mean more jointing sometimes an oozing into the cavity at higher level laying but if you do it an do it well fair enough.
In Denmark the Pick and dip IS the traditional way og doing it! Good video thank you!
Same in Germany☺
@@chrisn.2002 +1 for South America! I used to work as a bricky over there, and we used the same technique. Except the brick shapes were all over the place. More like a banana, than a brick! :D
Depends on the muck and brick. We lay mostly dry cored 3x10 bricks in Canada, long spreads on cool damp days, Pick and dip when it’s warm and the mud is shite. Bricklaying is about adapting and producing the most in a certain situation .
I’ve gotten other guys on shorter spreads years ago because I hate hearing hammers banging on fresh bricks, but most brick layers suck and don’t care to produce.
59 life long bricky and never heard of pic n dip until I watched u tube
I just love watching your videos! Better than the telly! I wish I was thirty years younger! I have shown my son in Law and grandsons and they are going to take it up. There are a lot of good brickies putting up vids! We all watch Rob Songer who is a serious artisan! Take a look at his work
MrFlynnytwo thanks mate that’s good to no. So little people taking it up anymore. I’m subbed to him. He’s knowledge on brickwork is far better than mine! My input is just really how to be more organised and make a bit more money so make sure you show them these if they do bricklaying 👍
I have done! keep them coming you are a top trowel - should have been a scouser ... never mind 🤧
MrFlynnytwo 😂 I’m not crazy enough to be one of those
Pick N Dip is also used in the United States a lot. I've used both methods and both methods are quite popular here depending on what part of the country your in. It also depends on what your building and the type of brick. I do a lot of chimney work so it's a bit different than laying on a wall but I'm in the northeast part of the country in Massachusetts aka New England. Here the union brickys are taught the pick n dip method in school. It's definitely more efficient and way less trips back and fourth to the bricks n boards And it's also easier on the wrists with the smaller trowels. One trip equals 1 brick. Grab mud and brick at the same time and stay in the same spot. Your not back and fourth taking multiple trips running up and down the wall that being said I've seen masons do both really well and I can do both fast but the so called 'traditional method" takes a lot more energy and I have to hustle more to get the same amount of out put. . Also, dry brick is way easier to lay with this method. The weather here is radical from 0 degrees Fahrenheit in winter to 100. Degrees Fahrenheit i the summer. So pick n dip is much more useful on those hot days when spreading mud. Just the other day it was only a few degrees above freezing ( 37'F )when I left for work at 5:30 am and at lunch it was 80 degrees Fahrenheit and we were sweating our butts off and getting sunburned with our shirts off lol
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New sub, im not a brickie but love watching. great channel mate
Bricky I served my time with did something similar. When he got his next brick he would butter the end of it before taking a trowel of mud, spread the trowel and then lay the brick. Had a full perp each time and he only went to the spot board once per brick. I could match him on speed or better him by one brick spreading a different way to traditional but I would effectively use more energy. This way of laying in the video is great because your body is going to last a lot longer, have less aches and pains at the end of the day. Cheers 👍
Not on ur hips in my opinion, I got tennis elbow so it buggers u regardless, great video tho
Been laying brick nearly forty years and used every method pic and dip is the fastest method because there is no wasted motion , your cutting down the trips by lifting and laying brick every time you go to the spot board.
Thanks for posting. I enjoyed your video. 👍 from Texas USA 🇺🇸
I feel you would have laid more bricks using the traditional long bed spread, in the allotted time, if you would have buttered your vertical joints with the excess mortar you collected from your previous brick.
thats exactly how its done m8 far faster than pick and dip
There’s actually a video about the both techniques compared and in the video pick and pick and dip he layed nearly over double then traditional
Plus pick n dip you get your Bed and your brick at the same time not just the perp
David Brent is a great motivational speaker
Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. I was taught to always have both hands full when turning back to the wall as you’re movement is twice as efficient. This video demonstrates the logic in that.
Hey Charlie, try buttering the cross joint in front , it saves a lot of strain on your wrist and also better control so as avoiding even less potential mess on the floor . Just a thought .... great video BTW .
He's gonna pay for them cross joints later on ,
Good, worthwhile experiment. Especially with that kind of brick (with the frog up, or that scooped-out top of brick.? whatever you Brits call it?), the dip and sip works clearly better than traditional. And I think it most likely works better with the traditional 3-hole brick used in America, 'working at an average pace'. But for breaking speed records, got to do it the traditional way, Fast.. That's how the world record was set in 1987 or 1988 it was, in Michigan.? There's TH-cam videos of it.. But very good experiment.
Mate, they keep changing their minds over frog up or frog down. In the NW of the UK it was changed to frog down because they reckoned that the wetter colder weather was holding in the bricks easier and causing more problems and damage!
Good video mate. Keep them coming. Good to see you backing up your technique with proof.
I've never tried this method but I think I will be giving it ago.
How many bricks are you laying a day on average? And are your spots plastering ones?
As a comment below, seen this in Germany in the early 90's. 3 polish guys versed us Brits. We were all using traditional method, they used this pic and dip method. Absolutley smasehed us all of us in our early 20's at the time. However I never got to grips with it, I still have to perp a brick. Old dogs and new tricks n'ole dogs and all that.
Liking the technique. Cant see much reason to knock it.
I would say however, that if were building my own house, I would butter every brick with a few scrapes of the trowel. Especially on stocks. Just for piece of mind re bonding adhesion. If were tiling a kitchen splash back, I would spread the wall and stick the tiles on directly. But if tiling a shower floor, I would back butter each tile. Butter the floor then spread the mortar to guarantee maximum coverage and adhesion. But I do see this fast and easy laying style as smart system for saving time on certain viable bricks. And for certain situations. Great videos btw.
Great video I've learned something today. At the end of the day it's about money, less movement = more speed = more money. I personally like rob songer's method same concept just slighty different than yours i'll definitely give this try it just looks so much easier!
Gun_man 123 exactly. Rob is by far the most talented bricklayer I’ve seen. But I’m a price house basher. And make money but being efficient and consistent. This method makes each day less effort trust me. Takes a bit of getting used to but once you do you’ll love it👍
You are a 100% right as you have just proved it, I seen it in one of your other videos and i have given it a go but I will keep at it now I have seen this video till I master it as it makes sense and it's all about getting the brick down in the most efficient way possible,great uploads I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers as your uploads are not just a bricklayer laying brick but they are full of tips for other bricklayers and lads starting out to be more efficient👍
spot on, pick n dip squeezes the muckout no tap tap tap..
I step forward & spread pulling back towards me ( about 4- 5 ft in 2 good spreads ) ,, so as your backing up to the start again . Then bust that out & do it again. I throw a head joint on the brick I just laid & grab another brick ,,, instead of grabbing & buttering . We worked like we were killing snakes . Good job though , nice pace
Hi Charlie used this method for years and came naturally, when house bashing. totally agree nothing wrong with this method lot more neater more control better pace but can only use them with certain bricks yore gonna be a blinding trowel .only thing about this i can't get used to the way its called pick and lay sounds like I'm sweets from a shop as when i was a kid i would get sweets from the pick and mix perhaps call it the TURBO method keep laying geezer.
I wish I had some brick to lay 🙁, not many brick in Alaska. Almost exclusively block work up here. I love laying block but some brick every now and again would be fun.
What’s up bro. First off love the video. I’m and American bricky so we do things a slight different here but I really enjoyed your video. Also I like the pic n dip method you are showing. I’ll try that on the next house I brick. The method I use is similar but different. I kinda combines the two. I do it for speed reasons as it is only myself and a helper and I try to get 2000 in the wall a day that way. Love the fact that you show that the head joint gets 80 percent full with the pic n dip and the other 20 is filled with the next course of mud. Loved the video. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more in the future!
Bearded Bricky 2000 a day with one laborer.?.🤔 Very impressive. ..My personal best was little over 1700 in 8 hours on long straight run with few cuts, but I had 3 Mexican labors trying to keep up with me (and I was doing all my own striking, would not allow them to go there🤖). ..also it was a perfect October day, 62 degrees Fahrenheit, no humidity. .. when I was an apprentice in 1987, a young punk trying to prove myself.😅
Alright Charlie
Nice video, with interesting results! Been putting 1 on 2 for 12 years plus now and always used traditional, always love new tips and ways to make the job easier and more enjoyable! Thinkin of putting a vid up myself :) keep goin pal!
Go for it mate!
Great videos, Charlie. I’ve just started doing the pick and dip method after watching you. It’s much better.cheers👍
Here in the Netherlands we only lay bricks by pic n dip. No corner build only callibrated wooden masson profiles we call em. So you only level the corners once. Profiles go up about 3 meters in lenght.
Great video .. in Denmark we only do pick n dip. Most people do it reverse though, and the trowel is more ergonomic. It is designed so that the balance is better with mug on, and it dosn’t put so much strain on your wrist. Look up the word “Opmurering” and you will see what i mean. Thank you for posting .. oh and another thing In my mind it’s crazy that there hasn’t been invented any helping aids, machinery etc. that feeds you the brick or spreads the mortar. Food for thought .. why not seperate the spreading mortar part from the actually brick work part... the bricky is the skilled and costly labour, he should only lay bricks wihout turning or putting mortar on .. It would be great to see this theori tested
Thanks again
It's not just a helping aid it's a complete replacement. It's called Hadrian X. Still in development and no doubt will have it's limitations to begin with but natural progression will only see it evolve into go anywhere, lay anything one stop bricklaying machine.
Quality videos mate always after ways to improve keep them coming top notch
Pic n Dip would be the way to go with thirsty bricks and a warm day as well.
Really more effective with bricks with a frog as to a brick with say 3 big holes.
@@lmilne4859 I pick and dip and I have learned to use the mud I cut to put a decent perp on to keep from falling low.or dragging too much mortar. It really helps me
Spot on video bud, its a no brainer in my eyes, keep up the good work
Perfect for frog up that..many brickies lay frog down obviously this is frowned upon but its quick and when the cats away and all that
I’ve been a bricky over 20 years Charlie,I love the vids learnt quite a bit,keep em rolling in and thank you for your time to make these top bloke 👌🏻
Great video Charlie and a lot of lessons to be learned by everyone. Just a thought, when you are working 'forwards' I noticed that instead of buttering the end of the brick furthest away, you twisted your wrist and buttered the end of the brick closest to you. Do you think that you could be straining your wrist in the future? Maybe a few hundred thousand times doing that motion, could lead to a repetitive strain injury. Sorry to sound like I'm nagging, but as a 6ft 19st bloke pushing fifty with a dodgy back, I don't want to see a first class builder have problems. All the best mate.
kebabtank cheers for the advice pal. Thanks for the comment 👌🏼
Charlie can you show building a corner and a pier before you use the profiles, or is it exactly the same (the pick and dip)
The only brick layer on TH-cam that has sense the rest think they are reinventing the wheel 👍👌
I’m an English bricky that lives in Norway. Pick and dip must be used here. Regulations are against spreading more than one brick at time due to mud drying out and you can’t furrow either because they will be voids. It is paramount here that you put your joint on the brick though to ensure full perps. It’s obviously more effective to do it you way but you could see they were holes all over your wall before you jointed.
Terry Gribbin holes all over my work? Filling 2 holes in is not exactly worth crying about 😒 but yea ok cool👍
TONY JONES YOU ARE SO RIGHT
Great Vid Charlie. You make it look easy mate. 🙂👍🏼
This video is an instant classic
I can see that you personally like “pic n dip” or prefer it to long bed👍🏻, in South Africa i prefer long bed (but not that long), weather does not permit it basically....mix will to dry by the time you get to the sixth brick and to heavy on the shoulder at +13 coarses
This is the way the Dutch are doing it. Also, they use a round shape trowel and scrape the mortar back 10 mm whereas a grouter comes to finish it of with a (lime-sand) mix hence the brick will last longer period and face of the brick will survive the frost in winters
Thanks for liking Charlie. Keep up the good work dude
Looks like a normal day at work. Been laying bricks,blocks and stone for 40 years.
Joe Ceccacci still going strong then 👍
Charlie helped me big time
Would love to work with you
I've been trying it since your last vid mate and couldn't agree more, not used to it propley yet but getting there! I've only been in the trade couple of years and wrists are feeling it already... get myself a 10inch I reckon
Keep at it you won’t regret it. 10 all the way mate so much better on your wrist and elbow 👍
My opinion I prefer going the other side and is faster, I’m will try but don’t think for me will be faster as I no I can my way , thanks tho , good lad keep up the good work,love watching ur videos, thanks
Think a lot of it with you is the organisation of your site as well no walk to one spot middle in the like i see a lot of brickys doing
Alright Charlie ,do you use pick and dip when building corners?? Also what about on engineerings,when the mucks a bit wet they slip about unless your gentle ,Does the extra bed with no voids have much of an effect on this,don't want diving bricks.
Excellent video m8 iv been laying 21 years and I'm about to change the way I lay lol mad
Like your videos mate👍
Nice video will try it properly
Great video buddy will be using this 👊
Good stuff, keep them coming. Like you say, “who gives a fuck?”
Lol👍👍
Just subbed mate great video's
One thing I have noticed with the traditional way. You perp the brick at the spot. I perp the brick whilst carrying to the bed joint. This would make a quicker method.
Alwyn Maguire yea I no pal but the only thing is it eventually makes a mess where your walking with all the little bits of muck
Why not use the morter,that you scrape of the brick,that you lay,to butter the brick you just layed,?? Would that not be quicker,? Just asking,
Which ever way he lays it’s all good and a proper tradesman 👍🤩
What rates do you guys work at?
Good to pick and dip 👍🏻
What size are the board stand bud. You got a link?
What is the tallest wall u built and the longest wall u built
Anything that can make a job better is always good..:)
love your videos, makes me want to go out and build a wall! could do with some better editing through, like a spit screen of the two method or something 👍
Cameron Bagley yea video editing is definitely not my forte 😅 cheers though 👌🏼
It's no doubt you lay a good brick both ways. You're a skilled bricky.
I only expressed a concern in a previous video that brought a lot of attention that there's a ton of mud coming out the back of the bed that cannot be cleaned out on cavity veneer walls; leaving it there to soak up water or fall behind the wall potentially blocking weepers. You explained shortly after that you can angle the brick to minimize this potential hazard of mud coming out the bed. In this particular example you are easily able to clean the back of the wall which is no problem at all. I just happen to see a potential flaw with that the "pick and dip method" when it comes to cavity veneer walls in particular.
I've never tried this style personally. but am going to give a try. I'm sure it's a fine method if many parts of the world do it and continute to do so. No hate mate, was just voicing what's noticeable. Keep up the vids. Perhaps doing a video on the trick of angling the brick to minimize the mud out the back without having tilted out of plumb bricks would be a goody. Cheers.
There's me about to start building my own extension for the first time and thinking how long it's going to take me and this guy is throwing them up super fast for the fun of it lol Fancy doing a free TH-cam video round mine one time? You can show the views how long you can lay 1500 bricks 😋 think of it as a completion/challenge rather than work hehe
cameltoe452 haha nice try 😂
Christ don't do a project like that as an amateur. How did you do it in the end?
@@TheMagdaDar pretty good tbf, I've got about 30 bricks left to lay, 2 days max lol
when I learned to lay bricks, We NEVER used profiles, we learnt how to build corners!
Tony Jones same mate! But profiles make money I’m afraid and I have a family to feed 👍
when my grand grandad was born there were no cars, so they travel by horses
when my mother learned how to write she used letters to communicate long distances now she uses emails
when dinosaurs were alive there was no people on earth only animals and spiders, lots of spiders
when there was no light there was only darkness
Before Earth was created, there was no Earth, now there is Earth.
Back in the days when there were no toilets, people used to shit behind the bush, there people use toilets.
@@KevinColt you are quite right, and i entirely agree, life moves on and professions change. But somebody who dives a car does NOT call himself a 'horse-rider, So if all you can do is stick up profiles and run in, call yourself a semi-skilled laborer, and not a 'bricklayer'. as you saying that trade no longer exists. .
and as somebody (retired bricklayer also) said to me yesterday, after I had replied: A co-pilot is called a 'co-pilot' because he cannot yet take off and land, he can only do the easy bit in the middle. Charlie, my original comment was only an observation from a retired bricklayer, but as kevin's reply seem to imply I was 'stupid' for being able to build a corner faster than it takes to put up a profile, I thought he should be informed that I am quite aware the world moves on.
Good video buddy
OK... So. I'm self teaching myself bricklaying.. Cos I can afford to do it as a hobby.. Who knows maybee I'll do it to earn a living... I digress.. I'm a big fan of stu crompton and I've learnt a Shitloads from his vids.. His traditional laying is an art imho.. Your obvs a very skilled traditional brickie too but fuck mate this pic n dip has propper opened my eyes 👀.. I'm bang on it tmrw... Science. Maths and plain old common sense tells me it's a better way to go. Ain't gotta be a rocket scientist have you.. Fuckin ace bud.. Thanks👍👌
Gives you a rough idea.Wellsaid that man.
Me personally I think the pick and dip only works if you get muck that's nice and smooth . Your much spreads easy like butter on bread . On site you get shitty muck
My opinion is that the pick n dip would create more opportunities for holes if not done correctly. Also untill the pick n dip is mastered I believe alot of mud would be wasted , but to each his own . No right or wrong way to lay brick as long as the end result is plumb and true
Grom Killer this is true. But is this not the same as any method? If not mastered?
@@CharlieCollison if mastered I definitely see the advantages of this method
Grom Killer the biggest advantage of This method is that it is much less wear and tear on your joints. Apart from that just as much can be done either way
Buen trabajo compañero, saludos desde España!
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Estoy de acuerdo en seguir con el buen trabajo.
I like it mate, not done it as I'm mostly on stone. people can argue which is quicker, what I take from it is how much more effortless pick n dip looks compared to traditional. People can stick to their old ways but this will be classed as "traditional" in the rest of Europe and works well for them! Also I've found some box section gauged profiles, would u recommend them? Even for blockwork, ta.
adam chandler the main point I’m trying to make in this video is that it’s less effort in every way. Glad you could see that 👍 I use levels have a look through my videos you’ll see them. I used box section before that but you have to check them. No need if it’s a 2m level as you can just see 👌🏼
@@CharlieCollison cheers had a look for them 2m staco levels sold out everywhere must be making them popular 😂. Enjoy your vids mate hope to see more soon 👍
Love to see u use engineering bricks
Richard Marley why’s that?
When you are long spreading and working from left to right why don't you butter the perp of the brick you have just laid with the mortar off the bed cut off ?? Its quicker .
Im from denmark pick and dip is what we alwas have done :)
charlie do a video how you setup your profiles when you start a brand new plot with the top clamps, thanks :)
Nice camera and microphone