First things first: thank you Jeff for the great review and some much needed perspective. To everyone offering negative comments and spouting crap about how much ____ was paid off, stop being silly. Here's the reality. This 1911DS uses the same slide/frame/barrel as the current SA line, and they are excellent for a production gun, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS. Locally to me they are selling for $1325, a full grand under the optic ready Staccato models. You have hundreds of dollars of headway to improve on this design if you choose. It's a super solid base 2011, and if you've ever owned a 1911/2011...you know you'll modify it, it's only a matter of time. This has a fantastic optics system and uses modern 2011 magazine format/geometry, which is what vaulted Staccato from a temperamental comp gun to a duty gun. Moreover, it has proper slide stop pin hole placement compared to the old STI/Staccato pattern guns. Is this as nice as a Staccato, or Nighthawk, or an Atlas? Of course not. But you know what? You can afford this one. Finally, to all the Glock bois complaining about reliability: yes, the prodigy launched with some problems. I would recommend getting familiar with the 1911/2011 platform so you can understand the issues, which in some guns are: tight chambers (not cut to SAAMI spec), bad extractors, disconnector drag, and light springs (really mismatched spring weights between the mainspring and recoil spring). Don't take my word for it, go watch 10-8 performance and Chambers Custom on this. SA will RMA those issues and fix them for you, or you can tinker yourself or have a shop do it. Do not shoot hundreds of rounds to "break it in"--thats not how these guns work and you'll just waste money on ammo and get frustrated. If it has problems, you aren't going to shoot the problems out of the gun. Get it fixed. Again, thanks for the objectivity here Jeff, looking forward to the 5" content!
I appreciate this comment. Thanks. It still seems like the reviewers are getting much higher quality pistols than the rest of us, more so than usual. I’m curious what the reliability will be when more regular folks buy these up.
I've been happy with my Prodigy 4.25". I ran it for 1 part of a 4 part qualification class (CZ P-01 on the other 3 parts) on Sunday and it ran great. Magazine release is stiff to let the mag drop freely sometimes and as a left-handed user the right-side safety could be wider but those are my only nitpicks.
The p01 is a far superior firearm to any of these 2011’s. They’re fine for range and competitions no way I’d take one over the cz for edc , self defense, shtf.
Outstanding video!! As a gunsmith, it is good to hear someone presenting facts about the firearm and the user responsibilities in order to have a firearm that is functioning at full capability. Springfield is outstanding. I have the 5” Prodigy…Outstanding firearm!!! Thank you for the honest assessment and real world advice.
Glad to see a positive review on the Prodigy. I got one a week ago and it has been running fine. No issues at all for the pistol. I did find that Syntech 115 grain ammo can hang on the feed ramp due to the polymer coating and Flat Nose of the bullet. It feeds and cycles everything else I tried perfectly, including 147 grain Winchester Silvertip hollow points. Accuracy is as fine as any 1911 I have had, very good with the open sights. I look forward to putting a red dot on it. One thing I whole heartedly embrace is the conservative set up Springfield went with on this pistol. I can tune or modify the trigger or anything else I choose to easily and make it more of a custom piece or just run it hard as is. Springfield did a great job overall with this presentation of a double stack 1911 Base gun.
Yeah, the hype is real. I took my Prodigy 4.25" to the range yesterday, along with a couple classic Sigs, and it was no contest. The Prodigy was so ridiculously easy to be accurate with, that I didn't want to shoot anything else. It's going to be lights-out when I put an optic one. And btw, I've run 600 rounds through it at this point, and other than some 147gr FMJ Fiochhi that it didn't like, it's eaten everything so far. Zero issues.
I agree completely on the dragonfly. The one I have feels like the refresh rate is horrible and the brightness is not daylight bright. Will be discussing that in my review, coming out this weekend, as well
I just bought this very fine firearm today! I took it straight to the range and shot it. Let me tell you, it's the bomb! I just enjoyed shooting it and it was very accurate with hardly any recoil. I was highly surprised! This gun is hard to come by. If you can get your hands on one, get it! I waited for a little over a month for this baby and it was worth it!
Love the actual facts you mentioned about the Staccato, since everyone compares every 2011 platform to the Staccato…. “Yeah but is it as good and reliable as the Staccato?” 🙄 so sick of that. Awesome review!
Just got a 4.25. it's been awesome so far. I've been watching a lot of videos on this. I'm new to the platform of 1911 style. I'm no expert. Can't believe I got one. Great review
I own many high end 2011’s and also 1911’s. I love my 4.25 inch prodigy. Perfect budget option for some fun. I did a few things to it from Atlas Gunworks. Springfield’s guns are great, there optics are trash. I put an SRO on my Prodigy. You are right, their plate system is great.
Just picked my commander 1911 DS today. I had seen some content walked into a gun store in Vernal and it was in the case. Coming from running CZ accushadows and other all metal heavy guns I am super excited to get this out this week and shoot it
Fortunately you stayed away from the 5” until SA irons out the issues. Another issue is a lot of people think parts just drop in and work. Many times that’s not the case with 2011s.
Springfield did send me a 5” gun to create content with and use for holster mods. I have seen some issues with the 5”’and I have seen pistols that are running. We shall see I’m gonna shoot it this week
@@rdrgear seems the main issues have been extractor, disconnector, tight chamber and the 8lb recoil spring. All easily fixed for you or anyone with some 2011/1911 hands on experience. Well aside from reaming the chamber. Shouldn’t be difficult for SA to do a bit more QC in those areas. Not unusual for first gen issues with any firearm and 2011s can be finicky already. The frame and slide seems to be solid.
@@shannonmarcantel7993 agreed. I think the 1911DS line up will be like all of the releases of single stack guns. I’m sure we will see loaded models and such in the future.
@@rdrgear My 5 inch model had something close to 20 jams in the first 100 rounds. Cleaned and oiled it up and bought a 14 lb recoil spring. Fired 100 more rounds, no more problems. Soft shooting gun!
I have 100 flawless rounds through my 4.25" (no optic) so far and I'm really liking my Prodigy a lot. I ordered it the day they were released and I obviously got a good one
This was a great review, I cycled oiled and cleaned it every 500 rounds before even shooting it, it looked like I shot it that many times lol because of all the cerakote that came out, I had zero issues with it afterwards , after 6 months I sent it to Skips Gunz for Atlas high ride safety slide stop full EGW ignition kit titanium hammer strut red dirt trigger best $950 could’ve spent now it shoots almost as good as my PT HTAC! Thank you for the review
I’ve had no issues with my 4.25”. Rand flawless out the box. I am a little disappointed myself that they didn’t give us more options on optic plates. Not liking the 129 dollar bill on one. One funny thing I hear all the time is that it’s heavy. I’ve been carrying different firearms for many years. I carry this as my edc and I don’t feel the weight. I defiantly carrying guns that were heavy but this isn’t one of them. Other then that, it’s a sexy gun and happy with my purchase. For EDC, trigger is perfect. Thanks for the video.
I don’t have any experience with the 4.25 inch model, but I have spent quite a bit of time with the 5 inch. I can tell you that I have yet to get through a full mag without a failure. And yes, the gun has been thoroughly cleaned and properly lubricated. I have not used any remanufactured ammunition or any ammunition that I have loaded myself. It has all been high-quality big-name ammo. It was so bad that it was sent back to Springfield. We’ll see what happens from there. As always, thank you very much for the video.
@@cliffordmurdock2407 All I can do is share with you my experience with a sample of one. Springfield did not send me a Prodigy. So it’s a completely unbiased comment.
My Prodigy was good from the factory. However, once Custom Defense finished “duty tuning” (think Hilton Yam’s dvd) my TRP… I had them do a very similar work up on my Prodigy and now it’s nothing short of amazing.
Good review. Glad yours is working great. But like cars never buy gen 1. Wait for others to beta test it and get the upgraded gen 2. Looking forward for new Staccato coming out.
New to 1911s. I can appreciate a dirty glock a bit more now lol. Seriously though the 4.25 I got shoot nice when it’s not failing to go into battery. I’m gonna break it in and if it continues I’m gonna do some polishing to the disconnector which is clearly hanging the slide up. Found a few vids on disassembly / polishing so may try that short of reaming the barrel.
Giddy up Jeff - got to this one pretty quik! I really do like the stock grip on this pistol. To watch this release and the tons of different "feelings" around it in famous land Tube and also 2011 forums has been very entertaining. Good points on the tuning aspect - let's see what you do to it. Will be really interested on your thoughts on the 5". Love me some Longboard - its a delicious treat! 🤙
I recently bought one of these with my own money and ran a review on my channel. It was a nice pistol, but I started getting failures to feed at about 300 rounds. Granted, pistol was dry, and it got dirty throughout the day, but I was a little underwhelmed with this gun overall.
A lot of people have been buying Wilson Combat parts in order to fix issues. Problem is not a lot of people have the knowledge to work on this platform. I say just save a bit more money and get a Staccato.
@@apocalypse1175 all of my old STI guns. This statement described them perfectly. Many of the parts like recoli springs, main springs, safety’s etc. are all drop in just like on Stacatto pistols.
That’s not a bad idea. I feel there may be some loaded models or TRP style pistols coming down the road. I’m curious as to what we will see at shot show.
You don't have to look at those pistol to find problems, as stated. The first day I shot mine (4.25) it was acceptable til I attempted to feed it hollowpoints then it failed to feed every other round. I had to tap the slide to send it to battery. I had no intentions of fixing a brand new gun outta the box like most purchasers did online. If that's the case i would've gotten another staccato. I sent my DS back to Springfield and within a two week turnaround I got it back. I have the staccato c2 and this gun is almost a duplicate with appearance, and not performance. I've yet to take it back out to the range. The performance list said that they reamed and polished the chamber. I'll know tomorrow when I visit my department's range.
Late to the party picking one up for myself (might be a good thing) but I've heard various numbers on the trigger pull weight. Glad I didn't opt (no pun intended) for the hex included optic. I fell into the trap earlier with the negatives about this firearm and realized I was being foolish with the drama put out there, drama sells so the algorithms push it. This is a $1299 pistol that looks fantastic and operates fantastic within the context. I mean, it's not a $3k-$4k Staccato and to compare the two is apples to oranges HOWEVER, put some more $ into this pistol and it will surely give it a run for its money for still much less.
only thing I would want to pay money to 'fix' would be slimming down the grip circumference a bit, particularly towards the bottom. wouldn't mind some staccato thumb safeties too since they're wider.
Hope they do a trp operator model and an aluminum framed model. Hope they make the ambi safety a little wider. Other than that, some minor fixes can be done but really shouldn’t have to unless customizing for yourself.
Seems to be a good gun at a good price point. Only issue I have seeing other reviews is that the magazine design is the main cause of issues with failure to feed, slide going into full battery. Hopefully Springfield will correct this problem.
Possible. In the review I posted. Used both the 17 and the extended 20mrpund mag. But I definitely agree. Without having alternate brand of 2011 mags to test. Its unknown which is the issue mag or gun
@@ManofTroy81 mine was not feeding in the hollow points , I polished the lips on the magazines and works good now , I have the 4.25. I’m in love with the pistol 😅
The only thing I don’t like about my Prodigy is the “Loaded chamber indicator”. Basically it’s a small hole so you can see the brass but all it does is spew crap all over the red dot. Guess Springfield doesn’t realize that most people will do a press check to see if there is a round chambered 🤦♂️
Thank you for this video. A lot of these people sending them back and calling them junk are prob Glock guys. Its not a Glock! Lol. Im a glock guy too but I've also owned many 1911's. I have a prodigy 5" and it'll need some time to break in but its a very well made tool
Nice, I was hoping Springfield atleast had a good frame, slide and barrel. Now I'm just waiting for the optic plates to release and the hype to die down and prices to normalize before getting one.
Well said! 💪😎 It seems all the backseat bandwagon riders are simply pissing on the firearm based on everything they see from others commentary. I’ve literally had my government model for a month now and still no issues and I run the piss out of this thing. As I’ve said before, this is not your polymer striker fired EDC. We can’t sit here and act like a lot of these companies in the 2011 market didn’t have hiccups in the areas of QC before they became top tier. These 1911/2011 platforms are hand fitted and tolerances are tight. Break in process are more then likely necessary for a metal on metal pistol creating constant friction. Oil that shit up and run it hard ladies and gentlemen!!! 💪😎
I think tuning a gun is half the fun. I bet a lot of the guys that bought staccatos might be a little hurt that Springfield was able to release such a promising gun at a competitive price. If you throw a few hundred $ at it you'll have a gun YOU tuned and still undercut the more expensive offerings by a long shot. Now if you don't like to tinker with things then you know what you should do.
It’s pretty rough if you come from High quality red dots. The DPP is the hex of the big brand Reddots. I have broken so many I have lost count. The rmr is a really solid set up for a hard use rds on any pistol model
This isn’t a staccato thou which are all completely hand fitted & don’t use any MiM parts. Which is mostly why it’s significantly cheaper. Does a staccato run 1k better then this? Absolutely not but if you care about the craftsmanship that goes into a firearm? You’ll know why you pay a bit more for a staccato. If performance is all you care about? I’d go with the Prodigy.
The Stacatto pistols I’m sure get some level of trim or polish, for the most part they are hand assembled with Pre-fit parts. When the term “hand fit” is used. It comes from pistol smiths Who use slightly oversized parts. The smith is then hand fitting the pile of parts to the pistol, fitted parts are things like the slide stop, the hammer, the safety, the beaver tail, back strap mag well etc. The prodigy is not that. It’s a mass production pistol. And that’s where the savings come in. When Stacatto has a 15-20% hero’s program discount baked into the MSRP of pistol. That only select individuals qualify for. That can deter some consumers and otter don’t care. They just want the brand flex. Thanks for the comment, @three60crusader hope see you more on the reviews. Jeff
I just read that the 5" guys are updating to 12# spring meanwhile I also read the 4.25 already has a 12# in it from the factory. so much missinformation I dont know what to think. your thoughts?
I have the feed issue as well. And Mine is factory spring. I’ve seen where some have move up to heavier springs and issue persists. And seen some where they drop to lighter spring and it does better. So I’m considering the 9# spring.
@@Rooftroop Just sent it back to springfield. Springs arnt going to solve the issue IMO. They gave me a return label and it will be back hopfully soon. If you start fixing it yourself by filing mags or polishing the feed ramp and cant fix it, then send it in. You just voided the lifetime warranty. IMO you paid for the warranty, just send it to them. I havent heard of anyone sending it in and still having issues. All of them run flawless after they get them back. With the stock spring. Just IMO
You're 450 rounds I am into mine 1300... This thing is trash. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here because you have the 4.25. I have the 5 which has been having more problems but. I had to polish multiple parts on this gun. First day out I FTF'd 90 rounds out of 400 rounds... 2nd day was better... 3rd day was 480 rounds with zero FTF with hours of work polishing... I also sent it back to SA after the 1300 rounds to fix my safety (right side was walking itself out and I had to keep pressing it in) and to work on my mag release (feels like there is sand in there).... Got my pistol back from warranty and it doesnt appear that they did ANYTHING at all to it. Out of the box (after warranty work) within 10 manipulations of the safety it started walking out again. I literally went and bought a staccato the day I got this back from warranty. Springfield customer service absolutely sucks.
I will say... shooting it the third day was pure joy and I DO absolutely love the gun... but sending a broken gun to warranty and getting it back in the same exact condition is absolutely unacceptable. I will buy a Wilson saftey and fit it myself and call it good. At that point including all the polishing and ammo fired I will be into this gun about the same amount as my Staccato P.... Which took an RMR right away lol
That’s totally understandable. I simply would have called Springfield back. Springfield just sent me a 5” For come content and holster fitment. I am trying to get another one locally to compare the two. To see if I did get a hand selected model since this one was sent to me from the marketing team. The commander I bought was blind. It was a dealer to dealer sale. I just called and my buddy drove it over. I also believe the failure to feed is a mag issue.
My 5” inch worked great. I did change the recoil spring before shooting it to a 12lb because people were suggesting it but it ran 650 rounds with only 1 FTE. I’m happy with mine so far.
I wish some one would actually test the trigger weight on video.. 4-5lbs seems pretty high for a 1911.. I'm no expert, I wouldn't know how to fix that.. Lol.
@@benhead2231 At this time my dynamic drill/shooting scores are better with my LTT 92 Elite RDO compact (and my 92x LTT RDO Centurion) than with my Prodigy 4.25", but the prodigy doesn't have a red dot installed yet and I have been shooting the Beretta's obviously longer. I'd also pick the Beretta first over the Prodigy because the cost of Beretta 92 ownership is also drastically cheaper or more pervasive (Not the pistol specifically but the support items).
Ya it’s bugging the shit out of me already, everyone keeps ranting and raving about this gun, but 7 out of 10 reviews their guns had a lot of issues and everyone’s excuse is well it’s only a ThUoSanD dollars what do you expect, ummmmmm how about for a company to release a solid fuckin product out of the gate instead of having their fan base discover the issues for them discover them your damn self and fix them before you release it and every one saying oh it’s ok they will solve these issues with future generations and if your having issues send it in and they will fix it. That is what contributes to these company’s doing shit like this every time a company does shit like this they should be dragged so they insist on not doing it again rather than us the consumer insisting.
My Prodigy runs fine. A company called Glock released a 4th generation 9mm pistol sometime ago and it had problems for some people.and not for other people. FN 509 striker pins break, Sig p365 striker pin drag, and etc. So teething problems for new releases is not unique to this Prodigy release.
@@SectionChief that’s my point, that’s why I said these company’s never mentioned only Springfield but when you have ppl trying to say the price point justifies failures that’s a no to me the whole this is half the price of staccato so don’t expect it to run as reliable is bullshit to me a gun should work and if it doesn’t it shouldn’t be sold especially when it’s being marketed as a potential defensive firearm like the sigs and FNs and when this gun is clearly marketed as a budget option to a staccato it should at the minimum be reliable.
Spoke with service an sales at springfield today Oct 24th they said the plates for the prodigy will be another 30 to 60 days out ...wtf springfield....I'm disappointed bigtime been waiting for two months for the damn things and now this
I compared the Staccato P to the prodigy, in a recent review I did, and they are nowhere close. The avocado punched the prodigy in the balls and made it it’s bitch.
Yep. It’s about $1,000 less and shoots very similar to the P. Don’t listen to the idiot above me; he’s a staccato shill. I have two staccatos. They are great. However, both have been sent back for warranty work. 2011s are just finicky in nature. Also, did everyone forget the issues staccato had with their first releases??? For a grand less, I’d say the prodigy is a great deal.
Clone no. There are many differences. But this pistol will allow consumers who have wanted to get into a 2011 do so now with the price point and the future modes of the 1911DS
Rumor is (confirmed here in the chat) that the EDIT: quality control is poor and there are countless unreliable pistols being purchased. You might get a good one, or you might not. Not sure I want to pay $1400 for poor quality control and an unreliable pistol.
Wait?! What was confirmed. I bought this pistol outright with company funds. This 4.25” pistol was NOT SENT TO US. How hard is this to hear in the video. Lol. How many times do I have to say it.
@@rdrgear Fair enough. Most of the other reviewers had theirs sent and number of regular people are having major issues. Maybe it’s the squeaky wheel, but I think it’s the platform. Like you said, these guns can have issues for a number of reasons, reasons that can be addressed by SA on the handpicked pistols they give to reviewers. It’s not hard to understand how those pistols could be way more reliable than the average ones off the shelf. I’m glad yours runs. However, there are multiple people here in the chat, and even more on the web, who have guns that don’t run. That’s a fact that shouldn’t be disregarded just because you like yours. It seems like you’re “looking to not find problems with the pistol” when there are problems for others. I took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. I try to not support companies that have a history of subverting our Constitutional rights, especially for a gun that likely has multiple failures to feed every 100 rounds. Ymmv
@@Libertarian_Neighbor your last comment explains why you made the comments in the first place. If the prodigy ran flawless. People like yourself would still shit on it.
I ran a CZ 75 P-01 Omega out of the box with 225 rds with no issues. But have since taken it apart to swap out the plastic guide rod to stainless steel, clean and lube then swap out hand grips. I didn't like the stock rubber ones. Very nice compact gun. I have a local smith looking at the 5" prodigy now to see if the failure to eject/feed issues can be corrected. I asked to have the mags looks at for proper smoothness at the top, the internals to be polished, check the extractor, disconnector as well. I have ordered a stainless full length tool less guide rod with an 11 lb. recoil spring just to see how it works that way too. Haven't given up yet on it. I have to admit though for even this kind of money, with anything I own I expect it to "just run" all other weapons I have do just that.
Saying that it’s okay that the Prodigy is not good right out of the gate because STI guns, which were race guns and have since completely rebranded/changed their product line, used to need work done to them is asinine. That would be like someone saying a holster brand who does Safariland mods is still good at said budget price because the holsters RDR Gear used to make before you were RDR Gear, needed some tweaks before they worked well. They either work right out the gate or they don’t. It’s that simple.
So the sti models like guardian, a 3.9 slide which was basically the gen1 C2 was race gun? Or The Tac 4.0 or the DVC carry. Ps: you lost me on the whole Rdrgear before it was Rdrgear part.
@@rdrgear The point is that giving a pass on a product because another product USED to need work to function reliably is a bad comparison. The holster I got from you works amazing! If I was going to get similar holster for cheaper that I needed to tweak to work as well as the one I got from you. I would not think it was worth paying less money. There is a reason you charge what you do for the holsters you make, and yeah someone could do it for cheaper but that does not mean the quality of the product is going to be the same.
I finger banged one at my local shop and it was trash. The trigger is garbage for a 1500 gun. The main spring housing stabs you in the hand because it has sharp edges. Just buy a shadow 2 better trigger. Better fit and finish. No sharp edges. And cheaper
As an experienced CZ owner with all tuned CZ’s, I can tell you that the Prodigy trigger is not “trash” if you were to actually have shot it. Just about any sub $1500 striker fired OEM pistol’s trigger would be sub-par to Prodigy trigger. HK triggers are mostly “trash” compared to the Prodigy. Do you even shoot pistols to know what “trash” is?
@@samgoral4 the gun comes with the HeX plate, which I understand. They want to get the dragonfly out there sadly I feel this was a mistake. As I mention, the large majority of us all have a “Rmr” foot print rds. Why not have it ready at time of release.
LMAO. It’s truly sad, the level hate and miss information. 1. I clearly stated I bought this pistol from a local retailer here in Salt Lake City, Utah. 2. If I was being paid by Springfield, don’t you think they would have sent me the gun, as part of a paid influencer package? 3. Bruh! Come on, I know you are better and smarter than this. If you had evidence that I am being paid that’s one thing. So when you make these out right false statements, it just makes you look like a clown. You could have asked me I am a paid influencer. I would have answered No. Do better homie.
These are hot garbage. Trigger is trash , full of mim parts , Most have to be sent back because they wont run. bul armory for a few hundred more smokes this gun
@@tommymorgan9293 I understand, because I see the same videos, but I also own one (4.25") and shoot it and don't have those problems (yet?). I also have plenty of quality pistols to compare it to. So when I see comments about that pistol from non-users I have to question what they're basing it on. I also own other guns that have previous or current bad reputations (Glock Gen 4, P320, Etc.) and don't get caught up in other people's hype. A 'Not perfect' machine doesn't automatically equal hot garbage.
@@xtreme4stringbass we get it. You’re a badass. Lmao. For people new to this scene, you’re one of those guys that just sucks for the new people. Get over yourself.
First things first: thank you Jeff for the great review and some much needed perspective. To everyone offering negative comments and spouting crap about how much ____ was paid off, stop being silly.
Here's the reality. This 1911DS uses the same slide/frame/barrel as the current SA line, and they are excellent for a production gun, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS. Locally to me they are selling for $1325, a full grand under the optic ready Staccato models. You have hundreds of dollars of headway to improve on this design if you choose. It's a super solid base 2011, and if you've ever owned a 1911/2011...you know you'll modify it, it's only a matter of time. This has a fantastic optics system and uses modern 2011 magazine format/geometry, which is what vaulted Staccato from a temperamental comp gun to a duty gun. Moreover, it has proper slide stop pin hole placement compared to the old STI/Staccato pattern guns.
Is this as nice as a Staccato, or Nighthawk, or an Atlas? Of course not. But you know what? You can afford this one.
Finally, to all the Glock bois complaining about reliability: yes, the prodigy launched with some problems. I would recommend getting familiar with the 1911/2011 platform so you can understand the issues, which in some guns are: tight chambers (not cut to SAAMI spec), bad extractors, disconnector drag, and light springs (really mismatched spring weights between the mainspring and recoil spring). Don't take my word for it, go watch 10-8 performance and Chambers Custom on this. SA will RMA those issues and fix them for you, or you can tinker yourself or have a shop do it. Do not shoot hundreds of rounds to "break it in"--thats not how these guns work and you'll just waste money on ammo and get frustrated. If it has problems, you aren't going to shoot the problems out of the gun. Get it fixed.
Again, thanks for the objectivity here Jeff, looking forward to the 5" content!
Very well said, and much deeper level of knowledge, i appreciate the praise, support and commentary, thanks you. 🤙🙏
I appreciate this comment. Thanks. It still seems like the reviewers are getting much higher quality pistols than the rest of us, more so than usual. I’m curious what the reliability will be when more regular folks buy these up.
@@Libertarian_Neighbor I am a regular guy who did a review. Lol man I wish I got as many free guns as you guys think I do lol.
I've been happy with my Prodigy 4.25". I ran it for 1 part of a 4 part qualification class (CZ P-01 on the other 3 parts) on Sunday and it ran great. Magazine release is stiff to let the mag drop freely sometimes and as a left-handed user the right-side safety could be wider but those are my only nitpicks.
The p01 is a far superior firearm to any of these 2011’s. They’re fine for range and competitions no way I’d take one over the cz for edc , self defense, shtf.
Outstanding video!! As a gunsmith, it is good to hear someone presenting facts about the firearm and the user responsibilities in order to have a firearm that is functioning at full capability. Springfield is outstanding. I have the 5” Prodigy…Outstanding firearm!!! Thank you for the honest assessment and real world advice.
Thanks for the watch Ron.
Glad to see a positive review on the Prodigy. I got one a week ago and it has been running fine. No issues at all for the pistol. I did find that Syntech 115 grain ammo can hang on the feed ramp due to the polymer coating and Flat Nose of the bullet. It feeds and cycles everything else I tried perfectly, including 147 grain Winchester Silvertip hollow points. Accuracy is as fine as any 1911 I have had, very good with the open sights. I look forward to putting a red dot on it. One thing I whole heartedly embrace is the conservative set up Springfield went with on this pistol. I can tune or modify the trigger or anything else I choose to easily and make it more of a custom piece or just run it hard as is. Springfield did a great job overall with this presentation of a double stack 1911 Base gun.
Yeah, the hype is real. I took my Prodigy 4.25" to the range yesterday, along with a couple classic Sigs, and it was no contest. The Prodigy was so ridiculously easy to be accurate with, that I didn't want to shoot anything else. It's going to be lights-out when I put an optic one.
And btw, I've run 600 rounds through it at this point, and other than some 147gr FMJ Fiochhi that it didn't like, it's eaten everything so far. Zero issues.
I agree completely on the dragonfly. The one I have feels like the refresh rate is horrible and the brightness is not daylight bright. Will be discussing that in my review, coming out this weekend, as well
I just bought this very fine firearm today! I took it straight to the range and shot it. Let me tell you, it's the bomb! I just enjoyed shooting it and it was very accurate with hardly any recoil. I was highly surprised! This gun is hard to come by. If you can get your hands on one, get it! I waited for a little over a month for this baby and it was worth it!
Love the actual facts you mentioned about the Staccato, since everyone compares every 2011 platform to the Staccato…. “Yeah but is it as good and reliable as the Staccato?” 🙄 so sick of that. Awesome review!
Outstanding review, one of the best I’ve seen on TH-cam. Great job!
Just got a 4.25. it's been awesome so far. I've been watching a lot of videos on this. I'm new to the platform of 1911 style. I'm no expert. Can't believe I got one. Great review
I have 300 rounds in with the 4.25 model with no failures. Glad I got mine
Have the 4.25 love mine polished up the trigger bar the back side well all of it now its at 2lb6oz and getting better
I own many high end 2011’s and also 1911’s. I love my 4.25 inch prodigy. Perfect budget option for some fun. I did a few things to it from Atlas Gunworks. Springfield’s guns are great, there optics are trash. I put an SRO on my Prodigy. You are right, their plate system is great.
Just picked my commander 1911 DS today. I had seen some content walked into a gun store in Vernal and it was in the case. Coming from running CZ accushadows and other all metal heavy guns I am super excited to get this out this week and shoot it
Fortunately you stayed away from the 5” until SA irons out the issues. Another issue is a lot of people think parts just drop in and work. Many times that’s not the case with 2011s.
Springfield did send me a 5” gun to create content with and use for holster mods. I have seen some issues with the 5”’and I have seen pistols that are running. We shall see I’m gonna shoot it this week
@@rdrgear seems the main issues have been extractor, disconnector, tight chamber and the 8lb recoil spring. All easily fixed for you or anyone with some 2011/1911 hands on experience. Well aside from reaming the chamber. Shouldn’t be difficult for SA to do a bit more QC in those areas. Not unusual for first gen issues with any firearm and 2011s can be finicky already. The frame and slide seems to be solid.
@@shannonmarcantel7993 agreed. I think the 1911DS line up will be like all of the releases of single stack guns. I’m sure we will see loaded models and such in the future.
@@rdrgear My 5 inch model had something close to 20 jams in the first 100 rounds. Cleaned and oiled it up and bought a 14 lb recoil spring. Fired 100 more rounds, no more problems. Soft shooting gun!
@@benjaminlinnabary3679 excellent, thanks for the specs. On the spring weight.
I have 100 flawless rounds through my 4.25" (no optic) so far and I'm really liking my Prodigy a lot.
I ordered it the day they were released and I obviously got a good one
This was a great review, I cycled oiled and cleaned it every 500 rounds before even shooting it, it looked like I shot it that many times lol because of all the cerakote that came out, I had zero issues with it afterwards , after 6 months I sent it to Skips Gunz for Atlas high ride safety slide stop full EGW ignition kit titanium hammer strut red dirt trigger best $950 could’ve spent now it shoots almost as good as my PT HTAC! Thank you for the review
Preach it...I am now on board to that 1911 life....thanks for your truthfulness
Appreciate you watching. Thanks B.
Happy to see yours running.
I’ve had no issues with my 4.25”. Rand flawless out the box. I am a little disappointed myself that they didn’t give us more options on optic plates. Not liking the 129 dollar bill on one. One funny thing I hear all the time is that it’s heavy. I’ve been carrying different firearms for many years. I carry this as my edc and I don’t feel the weight. I defiantly carrying guns that were heavy but this isn’t one of them. Other then that, it’s a sexy gun and happy with my purchase. For EDC, trigger is perfect. Thanks for the video.
I agree. Both my pistols have been running flawlessly from day one. What optic plate are you getting for your prodigy.
I don’t have any experience with the 4.25 inch model, but I have spent quite a bit of time with the 5 inch. I can tell you that I have yet to get through a full mag without a failure. And yes, the gun has been thoroughly cleaned and properly lubricated. I have not used any remanufactured ammunition or any ammunition that I have loaded myself. It has all been high-quality big-name ammo. It was so bad that it was sent back to Springfield. We’ll see what happens from there. As always, thank you very much for the video.
i am wanting to get a Prodigy commander but i have seen so many mixed reviews that i don't know what to believe.
@@cliffordmurdock2407 All I can do is share with you my experience with a sample of one. Springfield did not send me a Prodigy. So it’s a completely unbiased comment.
My Prodigy was good from the factory. However, once Custom Defense finished “duty tuning” (think Hilton Yam’s dvd) my TRP… I had them do a very similar work up on my Prodigy and now it’s nothing short of amazing.
Favor if you are on IG would you mind sending me a link. I am thinking about sending one of mine out, as a follow up review on the prodigy.
If you are not on IG, don’t blame you. Email Jeffwilber@rdrholsters.com
I'd also be interested in sending my 5 inch Prodigy to them. Could you provide more info about them so I can find them online a little easier?
Good review. Glad yours is working great. But like cars never buy gen 1. Wait for others to beta test it and get the upgraded gen 2.
Looking forward for new Staccato coming out.
New to 1911s. I can appreciate a dirty glock a bit more now lol. Seriously though the 4.25 I got shoot nice when it’s not failing to go into battery. I’m gonna break it in and if it continues I’m gonna do some polishing to the disconnector which is clearly hanging the slide up. Found a few vids on disassembly / polishing so may try that short of reaming the barrel.
Just found your channel and site and very impressed!!
Thank you for the compliment Al.
Nice info! Just received mine, the store made a mistake and gave me two 20 rounders so I bought two 17s to go with it!
I could be wrong, but have you tried cleaning the emitter with a qtip to see if that fixes the red dot?
We hit it with camera lens wet whips and microfiber cloth
I am only 2 minutes in and I have to say that intro was filmed beautifully 👏👏
Man thank you. We put a lot of time into these. Appreciate you watching.
Giddy up Jeff - got to this one pretty quik! I really do like the stock grip on this pistol. To watch this release and the tons of different "feelings" around it in famous land Tube and also 2011 forums has been very entertaining. Good points on the tuning aspect - let's see what you do to it. Will be really interested on your thoughts on the 5". Love me some Longboard - its a delicious treat! 🤙
Sweeeeeet piece there mane love it by Springfield
I recently bought one of these with my own money and ran a review on my channel. It was a nice pistol, but I started getting failures to feed at about 300 rounds. Granted, pistol was dry, and it got dirty throughout the day, but I was a little underwhelmed with this gun overall.
A lot of people have been buying Wilson Combat parts in order to fix issues. Problem is not a lot of people have the knowledge to work on this platform. I say just save a bit more money and get a Staccato.
@@apocalypse1175 all of my old STI guns. This statement described them perfectly. Many of the parts like recoli springs, main springs, safety’s etc. are all drop in just like on Stacatto pistols.
I'm gonna wait about a year or so. Maybe catch the next wave of Prodigy's (Gen 2's).
That’s not a bad idea. I feel there may be some loaded models or TRP style pistols coming down the road. I’m curious as to what we will see at shot show.
You don't have to look at those pistol to find problems, as stated. The first day I shot mine (4.25) it was acceptable til I attempted to feed it hollowpoints then it failed to feed every other round. I had to tap the slide to send it to battery. I had no intentions of fixing a brand new gun outta the box like most purchasers did online. If that's the case i would've gotten another staccato. I sent my DS back to Springfield and within a two week turnaround I got it back. I have the staccato c2 and this gun is almost a duplicate with appearance, and not performance. I've yet to take it back out to the range. The performance list said that they reamed and polished the chamber. I'll know tomorrow when I visit my department's range.
any updates?
thank you for this TLC review.
Late to the party picking one up for myself (might be a good thing) but I've heard various numbers on the trigger pull weight. Glad I didn't opt (no pun intended) for the hex included optic. I fell into the trap earlier with the negatives about this firearm and realized I was being foolish with the drama put out there, drama sells so the algorithms push it. This is a $1299 pistol that looks fantastic and operates fantastic within the context. I mean, it's not a $3k-$4k Staccato and to compare the two is apples to oranges HOWEVER, put some more $ into this pistol and it will surely give it a run for its money for still much less.
My Dragonfly died 2x, it was packaged with the 3.8” 10mm guess it couldn’t take the beating.
Mounted on something softer shooting now.
Great review
Thank you
only thing I would want to pay money to 'fix' would be slimming down the grip circumference a bit, particularly towards the bottom.
wouldn't mind some staccato thumb safeties too since they're wider.
Hope they do a trp operator model and an aluminum framed model. Hope they make the ambi safety a little wider. Other than that, some minor fixes can be done but really shouldn’t have to unless customizing for yourself.
I have heard someone who had the same problem with the use of optic outside in sunlight. I wish I could remember the TH-camr with the problem.
Seems to be a good gun at a good price point. Only issue I have seeing other reviews is that the magazine design is the main cause of issues with failure to feed, slide going into full battery. Hopefully Springfield will correct this problem.
Possible. In the review I posted. Used both the 17 and the extended 20mrpund mag. But I definitely agree. Without having alternate brand of 2011 mags to test. Its unknown which is the issue mag or gun
@@xtreme4stringbass then why do the checkmate mags seem to work without any failures? of course they do not fit flush
@@ManofTroy81 mine was not feeding in the hollow points , I polished the lips on the magazines and works good now , I have the 4.25. I’m in love with the pistol 😅
Beautiful gun that is on my "need that one" list. At the end of the day, of course! 😁
Lol. Well done. I literally have notes on the walls behind crispy. Don’t say at the end of the day. It’s the hardest thing to break. Lol
The only thing I don’t like about my Prodigy is the “Loaded chamber indicator”. Basically it’s a small hole so you can see the brass but all it does is spew crap all over the red dot. Guess Springfield doesn’t realize that most people will do a press check to see if there is a round chambered 🤦♂️
I have never had an issue, never really noticed it to be Honest
@@rdrgear I think it depends on the rounds, thats my guess as I haven't been able to shoot mine yet.
I’m going to wait a year. Nice looking shooter.
Thank you for this video. A lot of these people sending them back and calling them junk are prob Glock guys. Its not a Glock! Lol. Im a glock guy too but I've also owned many 1911's. I have a prodigy 5" and it'll need some time to break in but its a very well made tool
Great vid make up your own mind right on brother mine should be in next week can’t wait 👊
Nice, I was hoping Springfield atleast had a good frame, slide and barrel. Now I'm just waiting for the optic plates to release and the hype to die down and prices to normalize before getting one.
Well said.
I’ve had my 5” model since release zero issues 🤷🏽♂️
Well said! 💪😎 It seems all the backseat bandwagon riders are simply pissing on the firearm based on everything they see from others commentary. I’ve literally had my government model for a month now and still no issues and I run the piss out of this thing. As I’ve said before, this is not your polymer striker fired EDC. We can’t sit here and act like a lot of these companies in the 2011 market didn’t have hiccups in the areas of QC before they became top tier. These 1911/2011 platforms are hand fitted and tolerances are tight. Break in process are more then likely necessary for a metal on metal pistol creating constant friction. Oil that shit up and run it hard ladies and gentlemen!!! 💪😎
I think tuning a gun is half the fun. I bet a lot of the guys that bought staccatos might be a little hurt that Springfield was able to release such a promising gun at a competitive price. If you throw a few hundred $ at it you'll have a gun YOU tuned and still undercut the more expensive offerings by a long shot. Now if you don't like to tinker with things then you know what you should do.
Could not agree more
Will you carry that pistol every day now?
Really hope they release a .45 acp model. Not a fan of 1911s in 9mm
Haters going to hate no matter what , opinions are like A$$holes, everybody has one 🤨 buy what you like and enjoy it .
Excellent from start to finish with information others aren't giving. You should start teaching "gun" people how to do reviews. Thanks
Appreciate the compliments. Thank you.
Yeah I had sti - same issues
Same here. The 20+ mags. look's awful for me. BTW: Nice Video 👍
Nice
Which barrel length would you use for LE duty carry?
I haven't had that issue with my hex. I don't like the dragonfly that much as it's definitely not a Delta point. But it's not terrible
It’s pretty rough if you come from
High quality red dots. The DPP is the hex of the big brand Reddots. I have broken so many I have lost count. The rmr is a really solid set up for a hard use rds on any pistol model
@@rdrgear haha yeah I've broken a couple. I just wish the sro was a little thinner.
This isn’t a staccato thou which are all completely hand fitted & don’t use any MiM parts. Which is mostly why it’s significantly cheaper.
Does a staccato run 1k better then this? Absolutely not but if you care about the craftsmanship that goes into a firearm? You’ll know why you pay a bit more for a staccato. If performance is all you care about? I’d go with the Prodigy.
The Stacatto pistols I’m sure get some level of trim or polish, for the most part they are hand assembled with Pre-fit parts. When the term “hand fit” is used. It comes from pistol smiths
Who use slightly oversized parts. The smith is then hand fitting the pile of parts to the pistol, fitted parts are things like the slide stop, the hammer, the safety, the beaver tail, back strap mag well etc.
The prodigy is not that. It’s a mass production pistol. And that’s where the savings come in. When Stacatto has a 15-20% hero’s program discount baked into the MSRP of pistol. That only select individuals qualify for. That can deter some consumers and otter don’t care. They just want the brand flex.
Thanks for the comment, @three60crusader hope see you more on the reviews.
Jeff
Pro cons between the 5" and 4.25 barrel?
I think it comes down to purpose and use. For me if it’s a range, classroom match I prefer the 5”.
Which did you like more…. This gun or the Sig P229 SAO?
They are two totally different pistols. I prefer the single action pistols more.
Will it accept a Leupold red dot?
I believe the DPP plate will soon follow. Since it users the AOS system the plates are specific
To the dot.
Yes, when you buy and install the correct adapter plate, it can fit your DPP.
What would you do to the trigger?
Lighten the weight. Down to a true 4lb
Just sent my prodigy to Springfield to get the feed issues resolved. Just sayin….😂
Before or after a 9.00 spring upgrade.
@@rdrgear Mine is stock. what spring needs to go into the 4.25?
I just read that the 5" guys are updating to 12# spring meanwhile I also read the 4.25 already has a 12# in it from the factory. so much missinformation I dont know what to think. your thoughts?
I have the feed issue as well. And Mine is factory spring. I’ve seen where some have move up to heavier springs and issue persists. And seen some where they drop to lighter spring and it does better. So I’m considering the 9# spring.
@@Rooftroop Just sent it back to springfield. Springs arnt going to solve the issue IMO. They gave me a return label and it will be back hopfully soon. If you start fixing it yourself by filing mags or polishing the feed ramp and cant fix it, then send it in. You just voided the lifetime warranty. IMO you paid for the warranty, just send it to them. I havent heard of anyone sending it in and still having issues. All of them run flawless after they get them back. With the stock spring. Just IMO
You're 450 rounds I am into mine 1300... This thing is trash. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here because you have the 4.25. I have the 5 which has been having more problems but. I had to polish multiple parts on this gun. First day out I FTF'd 90 rounds out of 400 rounds... 2nd day was better... 3rd day was 480 rounds with zero FTF with hours of work polishing... I also sent it back to SA after the 1300 rounds to fix my safety (right side was walking itself out and I had to keep pressing it in) and to work on my mag release (feels like there is sand in there).... Got my pistol back from warranty and it doesnt appear that they did ANYTHING at all to it. Out of the box (after warranty work) within 10 manipulations of the safety it started walking out again. I literally went and bought a staccato the day I got this back from warranty. Springfield customer service absolutely sucks.
I will say... shooting it the third day was pure joy and I DO absolutely love the gun... but sending a broken gun to warranty and getting it back in the same exact condition is absolutely unacceptable. I will buy a Wilson saftey and fit it myself and call it good. At that point including all the polishing and ammo fired I will be into this gun about the same amount as my Staccato P.... Which took an RMR right away lol
That’s totally understandable. I simply would have called Springfield back. Springfield just sent me a 5”
For come content and holster fitment. I am trying to get another one locally to compare the two. To see if I did get a hand selected model since this one was sent to me from the marketing team. The commander I bought was blind. It was a dealer to dealer sale. I just called and my buddy drove it over. I also believe the failure to feed is a mag issue.
My 5” inch worked great. I did change the recoil spring before shooting it to a 12lb because people were suggesting it but it ran 650 rounds with only 1 FTE. I’m happy with mine so far.
@@JC-cv3up awesome to hear. Which brand of spring did you go with
@@rdrgear I put a night Hawk custom spring. I hear a lot of people using the Wilson combat spring.
I wish some one would actually test the trigger weight on video.. 4-5lbs seems pretty high for a 1911.. I'm no expert, I wouldn't know how to fix that.. Lol.
You are correct Irs 4-5 on the 4.25 that I have it might even be 5.5. The 5” gun trigger is right at 4lbs.
@@rdrgear Atlas Gun works as well as Alchemy have excellent vid's on just how to adjust the trigger pull here on the tube.
KnifeMaker
@RDRGEAR Would you choose this over a LTT Elite RDO Centurion
Again two totally different guns.
@@rdrgear understandable but considering one over the other for EDC since both are around the same amount. Appreciate the response.
@@benhead2231 if it’s an edc gun neither. Many better options for edc. I carry a p320 Carry or a shield plus often.
@@benhead2231 At this time my dynamic drill/shooting scores are better with my LTT 92 Elite RDO compact (and my 92x LTT RDO Centurion) than with my Prodigy 4.25", but the prodigy doesn't have a red dot installed yet and I have been shooting the Beretta's obviously longer. I'd also pick the Beretta first over the Prodigy because the cost of Beretta 92 ownership is also drastically cheaper or more pervasive (Not the pistol specifically but the support items).
Ya it’s bugging the shit out of me already, everyone keeps ranting and raving about this gun, but 7 out of 10 reviews their guns had a lot of issues and everyone’s excuse is well it’s only a ThUoSanD dollars what do you expect, ummmmmm how about for a company to release a solid fuckin product out of the gate instead of having their fan base discover the issues for them discover them your damn self and fix them before you release it and every one saying oh it’s ok they will solve these issues with future generations and if your having issues send it in and they will fix it. That is what contributes to these company’s doing shit like this every time a company does shit like this they should be dragged so they insist on not doing it again rather than us the consumer insisting.
My Prodigy runs fine. A company called Glock released a 4th generation 9mm pistol sometime ago and it had problems for some people.and not for other people. FN 509 striker pins break, Sig p365 striker pin drag, and etc. So teething problems for new releases is not unique to this Prodigy release.
@@SectionChief that’s my point, that’s why I said these company’s never mentioned only Springfield but when you have ppl trying to say the price point justifies failures that’s a no to me the whole this is half the price of staccato so don’t expect it to run as reliable is bullshit to me a gun should work and if it doesn’t it shouldn’t be sold especially when it’s being marketed as a potential defensive firearm like the sigs and FNs and when this gun is clearly marketed as a budget option to a staccato it should at the minimum be reliable.
Spoke with service an sales at springfield today Oct 24th they said the plates for the prodigy will be another 30 to 60 days out ...wtf springfield....I'm disappointed bigtime been waiting for two months for the damn things and now this
I heard the same today, truly disappointing.
Staccato P clone?
I compared the Staccato P to the prodigy, in a recent review I did, and they are nowhere close. The avocado punched the prodigy in the balls and made it it’s bitch.
Yep. It’s about $1,000 less and shoots very similar to the P. Don’t listen to the idiot above me; he’s a staccato shill. I have two staccatos. They are great. However, both have been sent back for warranty work. 2011s are just finicky in nature. Also, did everyone forget the issues staccato had with their first releases??? For a grand less, I’d say the prodigy is a great deal.
Clone no. There are many differences. But this pistol will allow consumers who have wanted to get into a 2011 do so now with the price
point and the future modes of the 1911DS
@@killerinst1ncz308 what is the problem with your staccato?
is it good for edc?
Rumor is (confirmed here in the chat) that the EDIT: quality control is poor and there are countless unreliable pistols being purchased. You might get a good one, or you might not.
Not sure I want to pay $1400 for poor quality control and an unreliable pistol.
Wait?! What was confirmed. I bought this pistol outright with company funds. This 4.25” pistol was NOT SENT TO US. How hard is this to hear in the video. Lol. How many times do I have to say it.
@@rdrgear Fair enough. Most of the other reviewers had theirs sent and number of regular people are having major issues.
Maybe it’s the squeaky wheel, but I think it’s the platform. Like you said, these guns can have issues for a number of reasons, reasons that can be addressed by SA on the handpicked pistols they give to reviewers.
It’s not hard to understand how those pistols could be way more reliable than the average ones off the shelf.
I’m glad yours runs. However, there are multiple people here in the chat, and even more on the web, who have guns that don’t run. That’s a fact that shouldn’t be disregarded just because you like yours. It seems like you’re “looking to not find problems with the pistol” when there are problems for others.
I took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. I try to not support companies that have a history of subverting our Constitutional rights, especially for a gun that likely has multiple failures to feed every 100 rounds. Ymmv
@@Libertarian_Neighbor your last comment explains why you made the comments in the first place. If the prodigy ran flawless. People like yourself would still shit on it.
All guns need cleaned and lubed right out of the box! Why people don't understand and read the manuals I will never understand 🤦♂️
Yes and no. Not all guns.
I ran a CZ 75 P-01 Omega out of the box with 225 rds with no issues. But have since taken it apart to swap out the plastic guide rod to stainless steel, clean and lube then swap out hand grips. I didn't like the stock rubber ones. Very nice compact gun. I have a local smith looking at the 5" prodigy now to see if the failure to eject/feed issues can be corrected. I asked to have the mags looks at for proper smoothness at the top, the internals to be polished, check the extractor, disconnector as well. I have ordered a stainless full length tool less guide rod with an 11 lb. recoil spring just to see how it works that way too. Haven't given up yet on it. I have to admit though for even this kind of money, with anything I own I expect it to "just run" all other weapons I have do just that.
Saying that it’s okay that the Prodigy is not good right out of the gate because STI guns, which were race guns and have since completely rebranded/changed their product line, used to need work done to them is asinine. That would be like someone saying a holster brand who does Safariland mods is still good at said budget price because the holsters RDR Gear used to make before you were RDR Gear, needed some tweaks before they worked well. They either work right out the gate or they don’t. It’s that simple.
So the sti models like guardian, a 3.9 slide which was basically the gen1 C2 was race gun? Or The Tac 4.0 or the DVC carry. Ps: you lost me on the whole Rdrgear before it was Rdrgear part.
@@rdrgear The point is that giving a pass on a product because another product USED to need work to function reliably is a bad comparison. The holster I got from you works amazing! If I was going to get similar holster for cheaper that I needed to tweak to work as well as the one I got from you. I would not think it was worth paying less money. There is a reason you charge what you do for the holsters you make, and yeah someone could do it for cheaper but that does not mean the quality of the product is going to be the same.
Commas.....please use them. Maybe a period?
@@apocalypse1175 fair response and I now see your point of view. However my statement is not false.
@@vmark78 what are you talking about? That’s what we need now, a grammar cop….😂
Good non-bias review. There are far too many naysayers far too early.
Yeh yeh, that's a nice looking pistol but, when is the TRP model coming out?? 😆 🤣 😂
To many issues with this gun , I’ll pass
Issues with the one you have. No issues with the one that I have,‘or the others who have commented and have the same gun.
I finger banged one at my local shop and it was trash. The trigger is garbage for a 1500 gun. The main spring housing stabs you in the hand because it has sharp edges. Just buy a shadow 2 better trigger. Better fit and finish. No sharp edges. And cheaper
As an experienced CZ owner with all tuned CZ’s, I can tell you that the Prodigy trigger is not “trash” if you were to actually have shot it. Just about any sub $1500 striker fired OEM pistol’s trigger would be sub-par to Prodigy trigger. HK triggers are mostly “trash” compared to the Prodigy. Do you even shoot pistols to know what “trash” is?
Needs to be 10mm
Said no one ever. Lol
Na just get the ronin if you want 10mm so bad lmfao
Lmao this HAS to be a joke!🤣
Wonder how much money Springfield gave y’all
Somehow there’s no pates available for dots….:.except the hand picked pistols sent by Springfield
@@Darkside540 Springfield Armory or RDR gear?
@@samgoral4 the gun comes with the HeX plate, which I understand. They want to get the dragonfly out there sadly I feel this was a mistake. As I mention, the large majority of us all have a “Rmr” foot print rds. Why not have it ready at time of release.
LMAO. It’s truly sad, the level hate and miss information.
1. I clearly stated I bought this pistol from a local retailer here in Salt Lake City, Utah.
2. If I was being paid by Springfield, don’t you think they would have sent me the gun, as part of a paid influencer package?
3. Bruh! Come on, I know you are better and smarter than this. If you had evidence that I am being paid that’s one thing. So when you make these out right false statements, it just makes you look like a clown.
You could have asked me I am a paid influencer. I would have answered No. Do better homie.
@rdrgear I do love that you respond, most channels don’t
Now they just need to make it in 45 acp.
These are hot garbage. Trigger is trash , full of mim parts , Most have to be sent back because they wont run. bul armory for a few hundred more smokes this gun
Your Glock or "Glockish" handgun has MIM parts, is that your "go to" derogatory comment? Did you send yours back also?
@@SectionChief I don’t have a glock. And if you look around you will see these guns have nothing but problems.
@@tommymorgan9293 I understand, because I see the same videos, but I also own one (4.25") and shoot it and don't have those problems (yet?). I also have plenty of quality pistols to compare it to. So when I see comments about that pistol from non-users I have to question what they're basing it on. I also own other guns that have previous or current bad reputations (Glock Gen 4, P320, Etc.) and don't get caught up in other people's hype. A 'Not perfect' machine doesn't automatically equal hot garbage.
@@xtreme4stringbass 5lb trigger is good?
@@xtreme4stringbass we get it. You’re a badass. Lmao. For people new to this scene, you’re one of those guys that just sucks for the new people. Get over yourself.