I mean i used the power sword for pox slaughter, this makes no difference! And also given the video showed bisections on other specials, i believe it’s possible!
I was really hoping blzaing spirit would get a mini rework with this weapon. There potential via talents is pysker tree to have good syngery with soulblaze and melee for toughness regen that would in theory allow pysker to be a bit beefier in melee. Either more stacks on crit or less stacks but guaranteed would have been nice.
@@marcfleuren7691 Something similar to lacerate would be insane. 1 stack of soul blaze per hit to synergize with the talents. Especially stuff like souldrinker
Someone's probably mentioned it already in the comments but if not: Soulblaze on crit is useful when combined with talents, not necessarily for the burn damage. And no, I'm not even talking about the "spread soulblaze" talents which are... conditional, it's mainly for WARP CHARGES so you can spam your ability more. All 3 abilities are strong with a warp charge build: infinite shields, even more soulblaze vent, or go scrier crit spam, rinse repeat. You can have so much CDR that your scrier gaze or bubble is up 24/7, not to mention the increased damage from having warp charges + toughness gain on top of everything else. In certain situations, you can literally venting shriek twice within 3-5 seconds and even with a low peril shriek, you are still refreshing the stacks and anything above 6 stacks will cause major damage over a THIRTY meter cone, through walls and cover! 10% chance to gain a warp charge when an enemy dies with soulblaze does not require the enemy to actually die to soulblaze: they just need to be burning from it (the caveat is that it needs to take at least 1 tick of damage from soulblaze, so instantly killing an enemy as you apply the burn doesn't work). Unless it has been changed which I don't think it has.
this was my reasoning aswell for picking it, great utility with the soulblaze blessings, you have a horde clear with your shriek, a crusher killer with the stabs and a very good blob killer with the sword swipe, I bring an autogun for the specialists and my build is very rounded off, this sword pretty much does the same thing as the dueling sword for me, albeit slower.
One of the biggest traps on this weapon is thinking you need a full charge for the beam to be useful. Use it ALL the time. Uncharged beam can disrupt gunners, trip up hordes/Elites, and just plain adds damage to hitting the first big guy in front of you and if you are running Warp Rider, Warp Splitting, and Unstable Power on the blade... Good news! you just primed your weapon for more cleave and damage on targets. Just uh... be careful around bursters...
I swear to the throne every single clip and post that features the new Force Swords has someone quoting Ludwig's Cutscene from Bloodborne and I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!
Holy shit, the available blessings are insane! I've been waiting for something like Momentum for a long time because I really wanna make a melee Psyker work and the lack of tankiness has always been a slight obstacle, but having a true toughness on hit mechanic (besides 5% toughness on crit, which is nothing in melee) is going to be so fun. I also find the pool of blessings to be extremely diverse. I looked at them and had 10 different builds shooting through my head instantly. We Psyker mains will be eating good!
psyker really wasnt great for me at all until i gave scrier's gaze a try with the power sword but after seeing this im sure ill have a better time with the new great sword. Thanks for the video! really well made
gorgeous swords! thank you for these detailed breakthroughs on all of the new weapons before they drop! i wouldve watched long full gameplay videos to try and glean information, but this is so much better and will be useful even after they drop
Thank you so much for this detailed breakdown. My only recommendation would be to put some sort of graphic alongside the attack chain descriptions. Maybe and arrow indicating the direction with “L1, H2, L3” for example. These swords look insanely fun!
I am not a huge fan of the tree changes because its a direct nerf to the Rumbler on left tree builds. But ogryn melee builds are still super strong. IMO the new guns are best on left tree builds not glugger builds.
@@Reginald-sc9tk which is really funny when you think about it but honestly it makes sense because you basically have a instant range enemy deleter super spearhead gun as a big funny guy player I’m a little disappointed but honestly we have finally gotten a brand new actually s tier possibly weapon after all this time this is exactly what I’ve been wanting
@@Reginald-sc9tk The weapons ogryn got do fill a niche, but in comparison to the other classes are uninspired. I main ogryn and feel like there is so little variety playing this class in comparison to last year. I think I was hoping for something to make the class a little more interesting. It's pretty sad when other human classes have had some good tree reworks and have had the range of weapons they can use increased (although I personally think some of those changes should never have happened e.g. dueling swords, but what's done is done). I've tried putting together some unconventional builds to spice things up a little, but you just end up being overshadowed by other classes if you stray too much from heavy hitter builds. I think this is where my disappointment stems from.
I am absolutely going to do two things with these. One is for my soulblaze paladin build, with blazing spirit, scrier’s, etc. The other is a warp-fueled bulwark kinda vibe, with telekine shield, a bunch of block efficiency, and deflector to let me just survive anything and serve as an achor/support for the team.
Man I completely missed the fact the psyker got a 2hander! Glorious! All ready tested the relic powersword for Zealot and its most excellent! Just slicing through maelstrom 😊
Murderous Tranquility seems designed for Gaze, I'm surprised you didn't mention that. Up against a horde you will keep continuously venting peril, which when combined with other things could make your uptime on the ult theoretically infinite as long as you keep swinging.
I mentioned it tangentially because By Crack of Bone does the same thing along with other talents on psyker and its insane how long you can keep scriers up.
The mark 6 looks incredibly fun, my guess is the Illisi will still be used as a quick & safe horde clear back-up for ranged focused builds & unless they're nerfing it the Deimos will still be the go to for force weapon for elite stabbing. I am kind of surprised with the lack of damage & power blessings, even the 2H power swords got Rampage, & the standard force swords having things like Uncanny & Slaughterer really prop them up. We'll see were they land but _if_ they end up struggling I'd point at a lacking blessing pool as to why. I do think Unstable Power should be giving something like 34-40% power at max peril those, for both FS families. Compare it to something like Rampage & UP has a harding time maintaining it's max value & puts you at risk if you do, all while given almost half the bonus of Rampage.
I have been playing with Wrath and Unstable Power. My Scryer's Gaze will almost always be active when I am dealing with a high number of mobs, so I figured it can help. It could just be that Wrath is making this weapon feel safe, not Unstable Power, but I figured the extra cleave would help on the safety PoV from Strength. I need to try it with Wrath and Precog to see if I notice the difference. This is with a melee first type of build, and the ranged as secondary.
I think main value of deflector is not saving you when you get out of position but more of possibility of aggressive plays under gunfire, because you can tank a lot of bullets with kinetic deflection+deflector
12:51 based on my 1 h force sword adventures, if you quickly chain force push few times you should be able to knock down a crusher on his a%s. Situational but possible.
The first 2 heavies for the mk8 are different from the rest in a continuous chain of heavies. More cleave less strikedown than the rest I've noticed. Also with mk6, if you didn't get a heavy stab on the first heavy, it will be the second heavy you attack with. The mk6 sprint heavy is a strikedown vs mk8 cleave.
Performance wise, probably because of the builds i use, i have a hard time selecting this sword over my standard bread and butter Force Sword. One thing i cannot deny tough : Big Force Sward stronk and feels good to use. Also its got the swagger, an advantage one cannot overlook.
Ya know, I’d dropped the idea of the force swords doing whacky stuff like firing waves of energy on a video you did a few months back about game balance. Color me surprised when the starting clip shows a force sword firing a massive wave of energy.
I wish the crit slice blessing was better, it's a cool concept. Instead of guaranteed crit it should just be a flat +50% damage, which could crit to add even more damage.
I ALWAYS take Deflector after I realized the 30% block reduction stacked enough with my Curios to make me tank a boss with ease if I pissed it off with my brain burst barrage or something. I have it ingrained my my memory that I always have the option of blocking that well XD
I need to assign a Mark 6 to a Scriers Gaze build, yet I'm still needing to see a recommended talent tree build as I am working on building up the Mastery of the Force Greatsword
Personally I am currently enjoying using the progressive staff, brain burst only with the kinetic flayer trait, and pretty much everything is so blaze with my previous staff being the one that's built to do serious damage to carapace armored enemies because I find that when you're using the fourth grade swords, you probably using them because you want to use them as your main weapon so using a staff that doesn't require you to constantly have it out and can have great effect even long after it's been put away is a must with my blessings being the one to apply brittle and stacks as well as the one that makes it so when your flames kill elites and specials, there's an extra chance that they fall on explode so not only is there the chance that they pop thanks to kinetic flayer which also means you as a great ability when you don't want to have to constantly pull out your 3 ability with when they burst from that, they'll blow up in a cloud of extra soul blaze fire but there's also the 20% chance that the flat-out explode which helps deal with hordes and large groupings of special and elite enemies as they start blowing up and killing each other leading to a nice chain reaction and also in general heavily weakening them to the point that you don't need the extra carapace armor damage and for me I've only ever really had problems with flak so far as it's quite prevalent add more importantly all black enemies can be killed with the sword not bouncing off of them like it does off of crushers and bulwarks with again they're better to deal with by blasting out some flames on them before them pulling out brain burst and just popping them especially since they're usually all clumped together and slow enough that you have the time to do it
Be honest my build also basically goes into pretty much every toughness buff I could get and is using battle meditation Plus the entirety of the melee traits you can get from I think it's the second row just after the blitz ability selection on the right side of the perk tree where there's an even further quail on melee weak spot hits meaning you can really regenerate a lot of toughness without even needing to have keystone abilities especially if you also grab the 7.5% toughness back on warp attack kills trait because then it really just starts rolling back in what about the only thing I would suggest you get as a must for a bill like this being triple Gunner resistance because at least for me I've never really had a problem with snipers as well they can destroy you, with good movement a sniper should never actually get the chance to shoot you and if they do, it means you were doing something wrong and put yourself in a bad spot or wasted all your stamina pointlessly with gunners are the only ones that quite frankly if they start shooting you then you're probably going to go down before you get the chance to even fill half of your brain burst gauge on them
Also to be honest I also like blazing slice on high crit builds partially just because of the theming of going with all the fire but at the same time well it's not a whole lot of saw blade stacks, when pretty much every hit is a critical hit, it just ends up being more soul blaze and thus more burn on entire hordes and more importantly, the enemies that are too tanky for you to kill quickly making it so they're weaker by the time you slash into them properly and even perhaps dropping them low enough bethel blaze from your Ferguson staff might cause them to literally blow up and serve as even greater AOE damage and more importantly a lot of general damage that will soften up the heavy hitters before they even come close to you thanks to the wildfires spreading your soul blaze to pretty much everything
Deflector isn’t for my misplays, it is for my team’s misplays and now I as the squishiest character have to clutch so worrying about one less thing takes the stress away. That said that argument is for the force swords which are much faster than this beast of a weapon and don’t need a cleave perk to feel right. Crit on dodge plus increased cleave is the way to go. If it had an ignore hitmass blessing I would take that over the cleave though. Too bad the cleave increase does not seem to effect the special.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Yes but infinite cleave is kinda a misleading tag though because it still loses damage on consecutive targets so increasing "ingfinite" cleave would increase the secondary target and onward damage. I mean sure the attack will "hit" everything and apply its full stagger value to all targets but swinging it into a crowd only for a mauler or crusher to eat most of the damage, leaving the horde still standing, is such a mood killer lol.
@@ShiningDarknes Maybe I don't understand the mechanic but I believe its actually just ranged damage falloff, not cleave damage falloff for the wave. I have not seen the actual statistics/code and I was not able to perform exhaustive testing before this tutorial. I'm just one guy.
when I picked up the relic sword I was really hoping psyker's sword would work the same, just building peril instead of heat. I have to say though, getting a moonlight greatsword in darktide is pretty fuckin sweet
Anyone have any thoughts on the... secret code? That appears at 2:40? Looks kinda like one of those silly 'dingbat' fonts like wingdings or what-have you.
I really like using Murderous Tranquility since I can make a melee Scrier's Gaze build, but I can understand why you would put it in dump tier since thats the only use.
Haja damn, I was running both of the “Hit 3 dudes” blessings with Scrier’s Gaze, basically acting as a tank as the Quelling kept Scrier’s Gaze up as long as the horde was there. I mainly play of Heresy though
Momentum literally makes you invincible. I've carried numerous teams up to Heresy level using it. Higher than that, and I can only use it to keep myself alive. But any ability that grants invincibility cannot be considered garbage tier.
Momentum is nice into hordes and provides no benefit into heavy mass situations. But hordes are already not a real threat if you understand melee. Its a crutch blessing at best. Which is fine but irrelevant to high level play.
Love the break down’s but the recommendation’s are in line with the people at high tier damnation auric who die the most or preform the least. Appreciate the info and more in-depth of the perks and general weapon handling tho.
I’m glad they bringing new content and gear to play around with but did they say anything about fixing the stability? All the crashing in the middle of tight games quite often with the same old 2014 disconnected code. I still don’t see how they sent it over to PlayStation with the same problems.
I have a question, does wrath work will with warp splitting? like does it go beyond 100%, and if it does, does it increase the damage. and if it does not is there a blissing that is worth replacing wrath with? thank you in advance.
Wrath itself gives like max 250% cleave so yes. They combine additively. However thered a mechanic called cleave damage cap which is the number of targets you can hit for damage.
i REALLY wanted warp slice to do.... something. like i was hoping it would just give you a free usage of the max charge ability on that cooldown or something which would be really sick. i wish one of the perks was some sort of passive regen to the ability charge or something, just to get more uses of it
ty for the great vid. and probably been said in the comments but there is a damage diff in mark 6 and 8. heavy attack and heavy combo are both higher on M6. M6 hvy combo-2 hvy atk=921( dont kno bout animations/etc. M8 hvy combo-2 light+ 1 hvy= 721. this just base damage. or does this not matter overall? thx again ps. u addressed this :)
FINALLY more psy based weapons, I was beyond bored every weapon update that added normal guns and regular swords if I didn't want to use magic I'd play literally any other class for power chain and big ass weapons
Soulblaze not being...well, usable, really makes me sad. I wanted a soulblaze build without the purgatus staff. You've got souldrinker in the talent tree sitting right there begging to be used but since soulblaze is as bad as it is(I don't even think it works properly on melee swings, I didn't see a single one of it's crits spread fire via Wildfire) the dream is dead.
Deflector is the defining Blessing of Force Weapons - you didnt mention that you can block shots for team mates by standing in front whilst they shoot over your shoulder, res a team mate or do an objective.
Did they fix Riposte at some point? I thought the dodge blessings ONLY activated when you dodged very specific attacks, were very buggy on proccing, and were considered dumpster tier on all weapons? I would absolutely love to start using them if that's the case.
In order for Blazing Spirit to be a decent choice it has to provide more SS stacks on melee hit. I tried it with melee heavy builds, and frankly any other blessing is a better choice with force swords, even if new talents which regen toughness and give crit on soulblaze kills. A missed opportunity. A classic Fatshark afraid to make something to OP when at the same time they leave stuff like Slaughter, Uncanny or Agile in the game. It MIGHT do better with 2 handed force swords, but with slower attack speed I'm seeing here I doubt it.
I am unreasonably excited for these. I'm sacrificing almost my entire stockpile of weapons to build these up as I'm writing this. MELEE PSYKER! YESSSSSS!
What is base dodge distance and isn't it the same for all classes? If it's not the same and it's not visible in the game then the dodge distance value on weapons aren't very helpful.
@Reginald-sc9tk Thanks for letting me know. I'm aware that there are multiple things not listed anywhere in the tooltips, like cleave values. This is just another thing to add to the list I guess. Where can I find the base dodge distance in the code? I've seen a comment on Reddit stating there is no base dodge distance for classes, only for the item itself. This comment didn't provide any source or proof.
LOL I renamed my Psyker Elric wielding the two handed force sword ''Stormbringer'' with Wrath and Unstable Power feels very on vorthos since he draws his strength from his sword ;p
You were at my side all along
My true mentor
My guiding moonlight
-glowing noises-
I’m ashamed of myself for not noticing that connection sooner…
@@shatteredteethofgod Not as tough as not being a jackass seems to be for you
@@afro4059 gotta rename my psyker, Ludwig holy blade
Glad I'm not the only one who made the connection
Holy crap the “cutting an army in half with his mind” stuff is really selling it, i love bisecting with the power sword and DAM this itching it!
It feels great. There's not even an upper limit as far as I can tell. Just a max range.
Works only against pox walkers sadly, damage of force slash not enough to kill something more
I mean i used the power sword for pox slaughter, this makes no difference! And also given the video showed bisections on other specials, i believe it’s possible!
I was really hoping blzaing spirit would get a mini rework with this weapon. There potential via talents is pysker tree to have good syngery with soulblaze and melee for toughness regen that would in theory allow pysker to be a bit beefier in melee. Either more stacks on crit or less stacks but guaranteed would have been nice.
@@marcfleuren7691 Something similar to lacerate would be insane.
1 stack of soul blaze per hit to synergize with the talents. Especially stuff like souldrinker
Yeah currently there is no reason to build up melee talents because ranged is just way safer in higher difficulty with the same or more reward
I'm mainning these, and the zealot's ones too.
Never putting them down.
The Warp Getsuga Tenshou, is just what I needed in my life right now.
Warp Getsuga Tenshō is good, I’m stealing it 😂
product management skills on full display here! well put presentation
I pulled out all the stops, including sleep
Someone's probably mentioned it already in the comments but if not:
Soulblaze on crit is useful when combined with talents, not necessarily for the burn damage. And no, I'm not even talking about the "spread soulblaze" talents which are... conditional, it's mainly for WARP CHARGES so you can spam your ability more.
All 3 abilities are strong with a warp charge build: infinite shields, even more soulblaze vent, or go scrier crit spam, rinse repeat. You can have so much CDR that your scrier gaze or bubble is up 24/7, not to mention the increased damage from having warp charges + toughness gain on top of everything else. In certain situations, you can literally venting shriek twice within 3-5 seconds and even with a low peril shriek, you are still refreshing the stacks and anything above 6 stacks will cause major damage over a THIRTY meter cone, through walls and cover!
10% chance to gain a warp charge when an enemy dies with soulblaze does not require the enemy to actually die to soulblaze: they just need to be burning from it (the caveat is that it needs to take at least 1 tick of damage from soulblaze, so instantly killing an enemy as you apply the burn doesn't work).
Unless it has been changed which I don't think it has.
good call out
this was my reasoning aswell for picking it, great utility with the soulblaze blessings, you have a horde clear with your shriek, a crusher killer with the stabs and a very good blob killer with the sword swipe, I bring an autogun for the specialists and my build is very rounded off, this sword pretty much does the same thing as the dueling sword for me, albeit slower.
One of the biggest traps on this weapon is thinking you need a full charge for the beam to be useful. Use it ALL the time. Uncharged beam can disrupt gunners, trip up hordes/Elites, and just plain adds damage to hitting the first big guy in front of you and if you are running Warp Rider, Warp Splitting, and Unstable Power on the blade... Good news! you just primed your weapon for more cleave and damage on targets. Just uh... be careful around bursters...
I swear to the throne every single clip and post that features the new Force Swords has someone quoting Ludwig's Cutscene from Bloodborne and I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!
Holy shit, the available blessings are insane! I've been waiting for something like Momentum for a long time because I really wanna make a melee Psyker work and the lack of tankiness has always been a slight obstacle, but having a true toughness on hit mechanic (besides 5% toughness on crit, which is nothing in melee) is going to be so fun.
I also find the pool of blessings to be extremely diverse. I looked at them and had 10 different builds shooting through my head instantly.
We Psyker mains will be eating good!
Its a great weapon!
Reginald, the absolute GOAT at actual data gathering for darktide
I bring the numbers so we can bring the pain!
psyker really wasnt great for me at all until i gave scrier's gaze a try with the power sword but after seeing this im sure ill have a better time with the new great sword. Thanks for the video! really well made
“Ahhh… you were at my side all along. My true mentor… My guiding moonlight.”
*neighs*
@@shatteredteethofgod an old man once said: “good, use your aggressive feelings boy, let the hate flow through you.” He was not a good old man.
4:57 Samurai aaaahhhh run.
that horde nuking ranged attack really got my eyes open. will be awesome to see talented pyskers swing that bad boy.
gorgeous swords! thank you for these detailed breakthroughs on all of the new weapons before they drop! i wouldve watched long full gameplay videos to try and glean information, but this is so much better and will be useful even after they drop
That was my goal!
Thank you so much for this detailed breakdown. My only recommendation would be to put some sort of graphic alongside the attack chain descriptions. Maybe and arrow indicating the direction with “L1, H2, L3” for example. These swords look insanely fun!
I'd like to do that in the future. Time was a big driver for my editing choices here.
New ogryn weapon video now. I demand it.
Thank you very much for the super. I got you covered.
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In comparison, Ogryn as usual got the short end of the stick, both with their weapons and the skill tree rework to accommodate more gunplay.
I am not a huge fan of the tree changes because its a direct nerf to the Rumbler on left tree builds. But ogryn melee builds are still super strong. IMO the new guns are best on left tree builds not glugger builds.
@@Reginald-sc9tk which is really funny when you think about it but honestly it makes sense because you basically have a instant range enemy deleter super spearhead gun as a big funny guy player I’m a little disappointed but honestly we have finally gotten a brand new actually s tier possibly weapon after all this time this is exactly what I’ve been wanting
@@Reginald-sc9tk The weapons ogryn got do fill a niche, but in comparison to the other classes are uninspired. I main ogryn and feel like there is so little variety playing this class in comparison to last year. I think I was hoping for something to make the class a little more interesting. It's pretty sad when other human classes have had some good tree reworks and have had the range of weapons they can use increased (although I personally think some of those changes should never have happened e.g. dueling swords, but what's done is done). I've tried putting together some unconventional builds to spice things up a little, but you just end up being overshadowed by other classes if you stray too much from heavy hitter builds. I think this is where my disappointment stems from.
I am absolutely going to do two things with these. One is for my soulblaze paladin build, with blazing spirit, scrier’s, etc. The other is a warp-fueled bulwark kinda vibe, with telekine shield, a bunch of block efficiency, and deflector to let me just survive anything and serve as an achor/support for the team.
warp rift at 4:07
Being a psyker has its downsides
I feel your beloved my have gotten the best of you in the intro there :p
what? I'm fine.
Wait, who're we?
I'm loving some of those attack animation transitions, SOMEONE DID LOOK at HEMA materials :)
it feels great too.
Yeah they already did this for bretonnian longsword back in vermintide 2
Thanks for the upload man, you literally answered all the questions I've been having about this weapon! I subbed BTW
Thanks! And you're welcome!
Man I completely missed the fact the psyker got a 2hander! Glorious! All ready tested the relic powersword for Zealot and its most excellent! Just slicing through maelstrom 😊
This looks like a ton of fun. Honestly not sure whether I'm more excited to play Zealot or melee Psyker after the patch. Thanks for the great videos!
Same here I'm probably going to level a psyker so I can try both
Its very fun to use both weapons.
Woah wait I watched your helldivers 2 automaton guide and now that im getting into darktide you make guides for it too. Sick
That video is still one of my favorites but I actually started my channel off DT. Its just a fun game.
Murderous Tranquility seems designed for Gaze, I'm surprised you didn't mention that. Up against a horde you will keep continuously venting peril, which when combined with other things could make your uptime on the ult theoretically infinite as long as you keep swinging.
I mentioned it tangentially because By Crack of Bone does the same thing along with other talents on psyker and its insane how long you can keep scriers up.
The mark 6 looks incredibly fun, my guess is the Illisi will still be used as a quick & safe horde clear back-up for ranged focused builds & unless they're nerfing it the Deimos will still be the go to for force weapon for elite stabbing.
I am kind of surprised with the lack of damage & power blessings, even the 2H power swords got Rampage, & the standard force swords having things like Uncanny & Slaughterer really prop them up. We'll see were they land but _if_ they end up struggling I'd point at a lacking blessing pool as to why. I do think Unstable Power should be giving something like 34-40% power at max peril those, for both FS families. Compare it to something like Rampage & UP has a harding time maintaining it's max value & puts you at risk if you do, all while given almost half the bonus of Rampage.
I think its good the weapons have internal balance that can be tweaked rather than must pick blessings
The Illisi and Obscurus got buffed to share the Deimos's dodge range which I personally find to be a huge reason why I pick the Deimos.
I have been playing with Wrath and Unstable Power. My Scryer's Gaze will almost always be active when I am dealing with a high number of mobs, so I figured it can help.
It could just be that Wrath is making this weapon feel safe, not Unstable Power, but I figured the extra cleave would help on the safety PoV from Strength.
I need to try it with Wrath and Precog to see if I notice the difference.
This is with a melee first type of build, and the ranged as secondary.
scrier's gaze was waiting for this weapon to come out. its an absolute beast. i like to use it with a boltpistol and palpatine hands
I think main value of deflector is not saving you when you get out of position but more of possibility of aggressive plays under gunfire, because you can tank a lot of bullets with kinetic deflection+deflector
12:51 based on my 1 h force sword adventures, if you quickly chain force push few times you should be able to knock down a crusher on his a%s. Situational but possible.
It does work
as a VT2 enjoyer i am glad I can still use the executioner sword
The first 2 heavies for the mk8 are different from the rest in a continuous chain of heavies. More cleave less strikedown than the rest I've noticed. Also with mk6, if you didn't get a heavy stab on the first heavy, it will be the second heavy you attack with. The mk6 sprint heavy is a strikedown vs mk8 cleave.
@0:14 made me have to change pants
This is an incredible analysis, and so easy to digest too. Do you have one for the regular force swords as well?
Thanks very much!
Performance wise, probably because of the builds i use, i have a hard time selecting this sword over my standard bread and butter Force Sword.
One thing i cannot deny tough : Big Force Sward stronk and feels good to use.
Also its got the swagger, an advantage one cannot overlook.
The Chaoslight Great Sword is pretty cool, I like it.
Ya know, I’d dropped the idea of the force swords doing whacky stuff like firing waves of energy on a video you did a few months back about game balance.
Color me surprised when the starting clip shows a force sword firing a massive wave of energy.
I worked and prototypes on this back in February. The inspiration then was actually from Kirby and Zelda
It's fun actually seeing it in-game now.
I wish the crit slice blessing was better, it's a cool concept.
Instead of guaranteed crit it should just be a flat +50% damage, which could crit to add even more damage.
Finally darktide it's getting cool!
I ALWAYS take Deflector after I realized the 30% block reduction stacked enough with my Curios to make me tank a boss with ease if I pissed it off with my brain burst barrage or something. I have it ingrained my my memory that I always have the option of blocking that well XD
I need to assign a Mark 6 to a Scriers Gaze build, yet I'm still needing to see a recommended talent tree build as I am working on building up the Mastery of the Force Greatsword
Personally I am currently enjoying using the progressive staff, brain burst only with the kinetic flayer trait, and pretty much everything is so blaze with my previous staff being the one that's built to do serious damage to carapace armored enemies because I find that when you're using the fourth grade swords, you probably using them because you want to use them as your main weapon so using a staff that doesn't require you to constantly have it out and can have great effect even long after it's been put away is a must with my blessings being the one to apply brittle and stacks as well as the one that makes it so when your flames kill elites and specials, there's an extra chance that they fall on explode so not only is there the chance that they pop thanks to kinetic flayer which also means you as a great ability when you don't want to have to constantly pull out your 3 ability with when they burst from that, they'll blow up in a cloud of extra soul blaze fire but there's also the 20% chance that the flat-out explode which helps deal with hordes and large groupings of special and elite enemies as they start blowing up and killing each other leading to a nice chain reaction and also in general heavily weakening them to the point that you don't need the extra carapace armor damage and for me I've only ever really had problems with flak so far as it's quite prevalent add more importantly all black enemies can be killed with the sword not bouncing off of them like it does off of crushers and bulwarks with again they're better to deal with by blasting out some flames on them before them pulling out brain burst and just popping them especially since they're usually all clumped together and slow enough that you have the time to do it
Be honest my build also basically goes into pretty much every toughness buff I could get and is using battle meditation Plus the entirety of the melee traits you can get from I think it's the second row just after the blitz ability selection on the right side of the perk tree where there's an even further quail on melee weak spot hits meaning you can really regenerate a lot of toughness without even needing to have keystone abilities especially if you also grab the 7.5% toughness back on warp attack kills trait because then it really just starts rolling back in what about the only thing I would suggest you get as a must for a bill like this being triple Gunner resistance because at least for me I've never really had a problem with snipers as well they can destroy you, with good movement a sniper should never actually get the chance to shoot you and if they do, it means you were doing something wrong and put yourself in a bad spot or wasted all your stamina pointlessly with gunners are the only ones that quite frankly if they start shooting you then you're probably going to go down before you get the chance to even fill half of your brain burst gauge on them
Also to be honest I also like blazing slice on high crit builds partially just because of the theming of going with all the fire but at the same time well it's not a whole lot of saw blade stacks, when pretty much every hit is a critical hit, it just ends up being more soul blaze and thus more burn on entire hordes and more importantly, the enemies that are too tanky for you to kill quickly making it so they're weaker by the time you slash into them properly and even perhaps dropping them low enough bethel blaze from your Ferguson staff might cause them to literally blow up and serve as even greater AOE damage and more importantly a lot of general damage that will soften up the heavy hitters before they even come close to you thanks to the wildfires spreading your soul blaze to pretty much everything
I can see this being used for some insane horde clear combined with venting shriek. Either the entire horde is on fire or its been chopped in half.
Fuuuuuuuck im excited, thanks for sharing.
you bet!
Currently playing the greatstorm with Soulfire build, it's pretty cool setting everythign ablaze
Deflector isn’t for my misplays, it is for my team’s misplays and now I as the squishiest character have to clutch so worrying about one less thing takes the stress away. That said that argument is for the force swords which are much faster than this beast of a weapon and don’t need a cleave perk to feel right. Crit on dodge plus increased cleave is the way to go. If it had an ignore hitmass blessing I would take that over the cleave though.
Too bad the cleave increase does not seem to effect the special.
Special has infinite cleave.
@@Reginald-sc9tk Yes but infinite cleave is kinda a misleading tag though because it still loses damage on consecutive targets so increasing "ingfinite" cleave would increase the secondary target and onward damage.
I mean sure the attack will "hit" everything and apply its full stagger value to all targets but swinging it into a crowd only for a mauler or crusher to eat most of the damage, leaving the horde still standing, is such a mood killer lol.
@@ShiningDarknes Maybe I don't understand the mechanic but I believe its actually just ranged damage falloff, not cleave damage falloff for the wave. I have not seen the actual statistics/code and I was not able to perform exhaustive testing before this tutorial. I'm just one guy.
@@Reginald-sc9tk if true this is really the strangest weapon in the game lol
these look really fun
They are
As a vermintide 2 executioner sword lover that mark 8 be looking juicy.
when I picked up the relic sword I was really hoping psyker's sword would work the same, just building peril instead of heat. I have to say though, getting a moonlight greatsword in darktide is pretty fuckin sweet
Anyone have any thoughts on the... secret code? That appears at 2:40? Looks kinda like one of those silly 'dingbat' fonts like wingdings or what-have you.
It looks like "Wingdings 2" the most I think
Converted, it says "Slice Mechanics"
Ah, a puzzler. I wasn't hiding anything, just making memes about being insane after not sleeping to make this.
I really like using Murderous Tranquility since I can make a melee Scrier's Gaze build, but I can understand why you would put it in dump tier since thats the only use.
As a Psyker that usually has most everything after matches, this has allowed me to carry games way more easier. May the Bread be with you.
The 20 second on warp slice is not that bad, cause I really doubt anyone can consistently get 2 segments within 20 seconds.
its not the time its the value.
@@Reginald-sc9tkin other words buff pls
Haja damn, I was running both of the “Hit 3 dudes” blessings with Scrier’s Gaze, basically acting as a tank as the Quelling kept Scrier’s Gaze up as long as the horde was there.
I mainly play of Heresy though
Once you get better at "the dance" into hordes you don't need toughness regen for them.
Warp-slice + blazing spirit sounded cool though... But even if it get fixed the CD is a mood killer anyway.
Dude this looks so cool. I can't wait to use that and just slide down an horde with 1 swing.
its glorious
I am both excited and terrified to try a melee psyker
Damn, this sword really makes me miss the pre ninja nerf Illisi sword from before patch 13. Psyker was sooo good back then!
You know
Im fine losing the dueling sword monopoly if this is what we got in return
its so good
Momentum literally makes you invincible. I've carried numerous teams up to Heresy level using it. Higher than that, and I can only use it to keep myself alive. But any ability that grants invincibility cannot be considered garbage tier.
Momentum is nice into hordes and provides no benefit into heavy mass situations. But hordes are already not a real threat if you understand melee. Its a crutch blessing at best. Which is fine but irrelevant to high level play.
Getsugaaaa tenshooo
Having played GW's short-lived Inquisitor game with Covenant, I was hoping the two-handed force sword would make it to this game since beta.
Love the break down’s but the recommendation’s are in line with the people at high tier damnation auric who die the most or preform the least.
Appreciate the info and more in-depth of the perks and general weapon handling tho.
sounds like a skill issue, whatever it is you're talking about. I hope they get better.
My pleasure.
Goodbye dueling sword, moonlight great sword is calling my name
I’m glad they bringing new content and gear to play around with but did they say anything about fixing the stability? All the crashing in the middle of tight games quite often with the same old 2014 disconnected code. I still don’t see how they sent it over to PlayStation with the same problems.
have you filed a request with fatshark? I have pretty rare crashes tbh.
I have a question, does wrath work will with warp splitting? like does it go beyond 100%, and if it does, does it increase the damage. and if it does not is there a blissing that is worth replacing wrath with? thank you in advance.
Wrath itself gives like max 250% cleave so yes. They combine additively. However thered a mechanic called cleave damage cap which is the number of targets you can hit for damage.
@@Reginald-sc9tk so it’s not worth changing wrath
i REALLY wanted warp slice to do.... something. like i was hoping it would just give you a free usage of the max charge ability on that cooldown or something which would be really sick. i wish one of the perks was some sort of passive regen to the ability charge or something, just to get more uses of it
Besides killing hundreds of enemies in a single swing?
What happened at 4:07, was that an attack from the warp?!
What are you talking about? I'm completely sane.
"Warp slice doesnt hit weakspots. Therefore, DD has no effect on damage in my testing"
You mean other than the 15% base damage DD provides?
Yes. It would help if I could read but here we are.
So does holding escenses do any sort of buffing? Like if i choose to let my sword glow and not fire off the special warp slice
nope
(Happy Exalted Blade Noises)
Shit, now I want Cathode Grace in Darktide.
ty for the great vid. and probably been said in the comments but there is a damage diff in mark 6 and 8. heavy attack and heavy combo are both higher on M6. M6 hvy combo-2 hvy atk=921( dont kno bout animations/etc. M8 hvy combo-2 light+ 1 hvy= 721. this just base damage. or does this not matter overall? thx again
ps. u addressed this :)
Haha, yes. The mk8 is the inferior pattern but is easier to use basically.
FINALLY more psy based weapons, I was beyond bored every weapon update that added normal guns and regular swords if I didn't want to use magic I'd play literally any other class for power chain and big ass weapons
agreed
Soulblaze not being...well, usable, really makes me sad. I wanted a soulblaze build without the purgatus staff. You've got souldrinker in the talent tree sitting right there begging to be used but since soulblaze is as bad as it is(I don't even think it works properly on melee swings, I didn't see a single one of it's crits spread fire via Wildfire) the dream is dead.
only psycher is allowed to perfom the sword range energy atack?
Yes, its the difference between a power and force weapon. Force weapons are magic. Power weapons are science.
Deflector is the defining Blessing of Force Weapons - you didnt mention that you can block shots for team mates by standing in front whilst they shoot over your shoulder, res a team mate or do an objective.
Dome shield and force wall do that quite a bit better and you're sacrificing a pretty powerful blessing slot for this niche utility
Did they fix Riposte at some point? I thought the dodge blessings ONLY activated when you dodged very specific attacks, were very buggy on proccing, and were considered dumpster tier on all weapons? I would absolutely love to start using them if that's the case.
To my knowledge yes.
All the new stuff seems fine, which is nice because that hopefully means less posted and ninja nerfs in the future.
Hey my new favourite asylum patient! Can you share a build with the greatsword for endest of end games? Thank ye
Check back in about 2 hours. Its going up.
In order for Blazing Spirit to be a decent choice it has to provide more SS stacks on melee hit. I tried it with melee heavy builds, and frankly any other blessing is a better choice with force swords, even if new talents which regen toughness and give crit on soulblaze kills. A missed opportunity. A classic Fatshark afraid to make something to OP when at the same time they leave stuff like Slaughter, Uncanny or Agile in the game. It MIGHT do better with 2 handed force swords, but with slower attack speed I'm seeing here I doubt it.
Just six stacks I think hits a breakpoint that makes it useful if I recall the table right
Mind Giving out builds for normal force swords please?
Soon
Bro they really gave psyker cleave and dismantle thats crazy
About. Damn. Time.
Agreed
How do you get this sword I’m on ps5 I have the normal force sword but I have not seen the force greatsword
I am unreasonably excited for these. I'm sacrificing almost my entire stockpile of weapons to build these up as I'm writing this. MELEE PSYKER! YESSSSSS!
Go go go!
What is the max cleave damage cap on this weapon?
For melee hits or magic slice?
Hey Reginald, for melee? Slice looks unlimited cleave cap
What is base dodge distance and isn't it the same for all classes? If it's not the same and it's not visible in the game then the dodge distance value on weapons aren't very helpful.
Its not the same for every class.
Its not listed.
Welcome to fatshark tooltips lol
@Reginald-sc9tk Thanks for letting me know. I'm aware that there are multiple things not listed anywhere in the tooltips, like cleave values. This is just another thing to add to the list I guess.
Where can I find the base dodge distance in the code? I've seen a comment on Reddit stating there is no base dodge distance for classes, only for the item itself. This comment didn't provide any source or proof.
you can tell he's a pro because he slides everywhere obsessively.
TRUE
Can't wait for Fatshark to drop a ten dollar skin for it this thursday.
Been trying to pick a melee weapon to commit to learning, suddenly doesn't seem like such a hard choice
Can someome recommend me a good build with the mk6 sword? 😮
Sooon
How do you actually use the force attack?
special button
Thanks god I didnt level wrong character :D
They did it, these crazy devs did it. They gave me a weapon, where I can play, as a psyker, in melee... And STILL FEEL LIKE A PSYKER!
OH.......that opening cleave just made me BRAIN BURST..
hnnnnngggg
For some reason I cannot unlock the MkVI Blaze Greatsword and yes, I am a level 30 psyker.
Thats weird, file it with FS on the forums
are these out already? how to get them?
By logging in tomorrow!
LOL I renamed my Psyker Elric wielding the two handed force sword ''Stormbringer'' with Wrath and Unstable Power feels very on vorthos since he draws his strength from his sword ;p
Thank you for this, I am fuckin pumped for tomorrow!
That does sound pretty complicated, non gonna lie.
My eyes kinda glazed over a bit during that combo-breakdown🤤
thank goodness the actual combos are easy enough.