as Chris Cooper ( a brilliant engineer that was involved in early F430 testing and variant ( like Scuderia development ! ) says ( and i love this as he IS English and clearly has a superlative command of the language and HUGE cred ! 🙂 ) Chris Cooper "the car was homologated in period for two sets of wheels and two tyres - note these tyres are not just suitable by size alone. They are homologated to type tyres which means they have specific constructions to get the very best out of the car and it’s systems. The factory later homologated another wheel (the scuderia style whee) and homologated a more modern Michelin tyre that is again specific to the car and its systems. We ran our F430 at Silverstone at an official Ferrari day with both the challenge style rims and the new Michelin homologated tyres. It was significantly better with the later tyre. Anyone throwing on a generic tyre or a bigger wheel and tyre combo will ruin the performance. Note the e-Diff is effected by all sorts of parameters not just wheel size. I don’t get the aesthetic thing of bigger wheels but each to their own some people value that above performance. Lowering, wheel spacers, all crazy as they make the performance worse but people with high school physics and a credit card often seem to know better than us working in the industry 🙂 Disabling the E-diff is like turning up for a marathon race in safety boots."
Great video, glad you included the wheel and tire specs. I am currently shopping for wheels on my 2005 F430. Would the specs work with an F430 with CCB?
Should work fine. When I ordered mine via cico, BC came back and asked if I had CCB or not. So bcforged will know if and what needs to be changed to fit CCB. Having said that, there is so much room and I have mocked up CCB on mine and there's plenty of clearance.
Ya, sort of. I did get new wheels for the e63, but really got screwed by that manufacturer. That's the main reason I haven't posted any e63 vids in a while. I'm not sure what to do
Hey Ken- I’m more than likely going with the same wheel, tire, and lowering specs as you, but wanting to know since your video, if you’ve experienced any issues in performance, drivability, or ediff since then? Anything you’d do differently? I’m thinking going with a 10 spoke forged wheel by Corsewerks. I also did the Forza controller while waiting on my Kline exhaust system to be shipped from Romania- and Roger with Inspired has taken well care of me. I really appreciate your videos and support. The F430 is an incredible car. Thank you.
Yeah, Roger is a good guy. I looked through his wheels for a while, ultimately liked the simple split y design better I guess. Overall I'm still 100%, please with the size, specs, weight and the suspension on mine. You can definitely feel a difference in the weight of the wheels, with the tire, each one is about 9 lb lighter than stock. I debated buying some aftermarket springs, but the stocks spring seem more than sufficient for the driving I do. The only note I will say about the offset, although my rear offset is much more conservative than many of the other manufacturer suggestions, they still are pretty tight back there. If you look at your rear quarter panels, the lip is quite thick, most places it's about a half inch, but I noticed where the quarter panel meets the bumper, it's almost 3/4 of an inch thick, when I was doing some flex testing with a jack, it appears one side can get really snug to that thicker lip just in that area. You could build a bigger buffer by adding another 2 mm to the offset or going a little bit more negative camber.
Hi Kenny Can you give me your exact wheel sizes, offsets & width Same with tires sizing Do you have a contact at the wheel shop you purchased at ? How long did it take to get them and cost Thanks so much I have a 2005 430 with CCB
Thanks, I probably went through about 10 or 15 other designs that I really really liked as well. They definitely changed the look of the car, nothing flashy, just look very purpose built
@@basketball798 I want to, I need to compare the 213 e63 to the 212 e63 as well ... Hard part is finding a place. I can use my friends airstrip for single runs, but they don't allow racing there. Filming on a road can get me pulled from yt or arrested. Not sure how this like that 1320 channel do it
Haha, thanks man. Yeah, I really do miss the 355, it's a beautiful car! Stock 430 looks pretty blah to me, but after lowering it and putting on these Wheels, I'm now in love with it!
he SAYS it is OK and he presents some % of difference says it is w/ in the acceptable range .Maybe so theoretically ! yet he does NOT give any comparative lap times to PROVE he has not affected the cars performance w/ the wheel tire size change ? He makes HUGE assumptions w/ out facts and proof ! I agree lighter wheels ( if as strong ) are better !
Your videos keep getting better and better 👍🏼 love this
Thanks Brent!
as Chris Cooper ( a brilliant engineer that was involved in early F430 testing and variant ( like Scuderia development ! )
says ( and i love this as he IS English and clearly has a superlative command of the language and HUGE cred ! 🙂 )
Chris Cooper
"the car was homologated in period for two sets of wheels and two tyres - note these tyres are not just suitable by size alone. They are homologated to type tyres which means they have specific constructions to get the very best out of the car and it’s systems. The factory later homologated another wheel (the scuderia style whee) and homologated a more modern Michelin tyre that is again specific to the car and its systems. We ran our F430 at Silverstone at an official Ferrari day with both the challenge style rims and the new Michelin homologated tyres. It was significantly better with the later tyre.
Anyone throwing on a generic tyre or a bigger wheel and tyre combo will ruin the performance.
Note the e-Diff is effected by all sorts of parameters not just wheel size.
I don’t get the aesthetic thing of bigger wheels but each to their own some people value that above performance.
Lowering, wheel spacers, all crazy as they make the performance worse but people with high school physics and a credit card often seem to know better than us working in the industry 🙂
Disabling the E-diff is like turning up for a marathon race in safety boots."
Ferrari looks super cool now. Wheels are great too, makes the car look sleek.
thanks man, Im very happy with the outcome. I'll get there eventually with the e63, hopefully the manufactures steps up and resolves the issue.
Wheels make such a difference in the look. Love ‘em 😍
Thanks man, I'm very pleased with them
Now you "need" the larger Scud rotors, in carbon ceramic of course!
Looking good with those wheels/tires!
Agreed! Heck, even with the stock wheels the brakes look small. Currently shopping for set
Beautiful work, and a nice wheel setup!
Thank you very much!
Well done Kenny. Keep it up with the vids.
Thanks man, finally getting some time to do a bit of editing, more vids should come out weekly or biweekly
Great video, the car looks fantastic!
Thanks!
If you warm it up a bit with a haird dryer or even heat gun on low... it will come out much easier... Done this many times.
Definitely, if you look in the time-lapse, I use the heat gun a lot, just to get it more than warm to the touch
Make more videos on your car like the AMG and the Ferrari
I have a bunch in the works, mods and maintenance on both the 430 and merc. Stay tuned
Great video, glad you included the wheel and tire specs. I am currently shopping for wheels on my 2005 F430. Would the specs work with an F430 with CCB?
Should work fine. When I ordered mine via cico, BC came back and asked if I had CCB or not. So bcforged will know if and what needs to be changed to fit CCB. Having said that, there is so much room and I have mocked up CCB on mine and there's plenty of clearance.
Great video! Looks like the E63 wheels are done already in the last few seconds of the video, are they?
Ya, sort of. I did get new wheels for the e63, but really got screwed by that manufacturer. That's the main reason I haven't posted any e63 vids in a while. I'm not sure what to do
Hey Ken- I’m more than likely going with the same wheel, tire, and lowering specs as you, but wanting to know since your video, if you’ve experienced any issues in performance, drivability, or ediff since then? Anything you’d do differently? I’m thinking going with a 10 spoke forged wheel by Corsewerks.
I also did the Forza controller while waiting on my Kline exhaust system to be shipped from Romania- and Roger with Inspired has taken well care of me. I really appreciate your videos and support. The F430 is an incredible car. Thank you.
Yeah, Roger is a good guy. I looked through his wheels for a while, ultimately liked the simple split y design better I guess.
Overall I'm still 100%, please with the size, specs, weight and the suspension on mine. You can definitely feel a difference in the weight of the wheels, with the tire, each one is about 9 lb lighter than stock.
I debated buying some aftermarket springs, but the stocks spring seem more than sufficient for the driving I do.
The only note I will say about the offset, although my rear offset is much more conservative than many of the other manufacturer suggestions, they still are pretty tight back there.
If you look at your rear quarter panels, the lip is quite thick, most places it's about a half inch, but I noticed where the quarter panel meets the bumper, it's almost 3/4 of an inch thick, when I was doing some flex testing with a jack, it appears one side can get really snug to that thicker lip just in that area. You could build a bigger buffer by adding another 2 mm to the offset or going a little bit more negative camber.
Hi Kenny
Can you give me your exact wheel sizes, offsets & width
Same with tires sizing
Do you have a contact at the wheel shop you purchased at ?
How long did it take to get them and cost
Thanks so much
I have a 2005 430 with CCB
Pardon me, I just saw all of the info
Ty
Great vid
Did you sell the Oem BBS set ?
Thanks!
I still have the OEM wheels, likely keep them for whenever I decided to part with the car
I definitely want to get a set of those wheels.
Thanks, I probably went through about 10 or 15 other designs that I really really liked as well. They definitely changed the look of the car, nothing flashy, just look very purpose built
I'm really curious is the e63 faster on a roll with the 430? Stock vs stock
Off the lines, it's not even close with the AWD of the e63.
Surprisingly, their 60-130 times are nearly identical.
@@ExoticCarDIY wow that would be an amazing race to watch if you can line them up.
@@basketball798 I want to, I need to compare the 213 e63 to the 212 e63 as well ... Hard part is finding a place.
I can use my friends airstrip for single runs, but they don't allow racing there. Filming on a road can get me pulled from yt or arrested. Not sure how this like that 1320 channel do it
Where are you hearing that Ferrari rolled the fenders?
Fairly common knowledge on ferrarichat, there even a screen shot of the factory instructions.
Also 360cs and challenge
did you sell the 355?
It was an awesome 8 years, but yes I sold it.
If the right GTS came along, I would buy another one in a heartbeat
@@ExoticCarDIY i wish i knew. i was a buyer. ;)
use a steamer
Looks great man... Now I'm ok with you getting rid of the F355! Lol
Haha, thanks man. Yeah, I really do miss the 355, it's a beautiful car! Stock 430 looks pretty blah to me, but after lowering it and putting on these Wheels, I'm now in love with it!
he SAYS it is OK and he presents some % of difference says it is w/ in the acceptable range .Maybe so theoretically !
yet he does NOT give any comparative lap times to PROVE he has not affected the cars performance w/ the wheel tire size change ?
He makes HUGE assumptions w/ out facts and proof !
I agree lighter wheels ( if as strong ) are better !
Nothing about you E63
Video later today