I had a very low upload speed, out of 100 Mbps, it was 3.5 Mbps. Enabling Compression and TCPmssFix in Advanced Configuration PPPoE helped me, and everything took off.
I've just conducted another speed test on the same router featured in the video, this time using Bell fibre internet. The download speed has now reached an impressive 925.79 Mbps.
Bell's operations vary by province. Not surprising that they decided not to use PPPOE. Nevertheless, I'd like to know the model of the gateway unit they supplied you with.
I have Bell Fibe 3G/3G and PPPoE in pfSense is still holding it back a bit. With a direct 10G LAN connection into the HH4000 the speed immediately hits 3.2G. Through pfSense PPPoE, it climbs to 2700Mbps after a few seconds. I wish there was a way to add static routes in the HH4000 so I didn't have to double-NAT when using the HH4000 internal PPPoE. Please Bell, it's all I want for Christmas. OK that, and 8G/8G in my area.
If I understand correctly, when configuring PPPoE on pfSense as a client, a static route for the gateway IPv4 10.50.44.193 is established. Furthermore, there's a possibility that 10 Gbps networking is already available in your area. To achieve speeds of 3 Gbps per second, the transceivers on both the UNT and OLT need to be 10 Gbps. However, it's unclear to me why 8 Gbps packages are not being offered in your area. It's possible that the connections between central offices or to the peering exchange are not sufficiently fast, which might be the reason why they are not offering 10 Gbps services.
@@BrodeyDoverosx I have a different setup now - An Asus RT-AX89X which has 10G PPPoE support and hardware NAT acceleration - I've also got 2 of those new ONTi L3 10G switches from AliExpress.
Why 1452? That doesn't make sense to me, as PPPoE overhead is only 8 bytes. pfSense automatically adjusts this to 1492 for a PPPoE connection. Even if you're implementing VLAN tagging (only if it's required) on the WAN interface, which adds an overhead of 4 bytes, it should result in an MTU of 1488 bytes.
@@Tek4You- hi! I set up the pppoe connection on the newest pfplus version, netgate 6100. 500mbit connection, i reach full speed. Processors/cores are bored :)
The Navigate 6100 should not have an issue handling a 500 megabits per second connection over PPPoE. However, it might encounter issues with connections over 1000 megabits per second using PPPoE. But I wouldn't be surprised if PPPoE gets patched in the future, or not seeing how old it is.
this is well known that PPPoE is single CPU utilization - and for unknown reason lot's of ISPs around the world are using thie method... which is problematic for the end user ! Im having the same problem - and my connectivity is 5Gb - and i get at the best 1.5Gb:/ with UDM pro for this instent
Parallel well-known issue now, but when I Google this 4 5 years ago I didn't find anything on this, only one article buried under search results. My theory why they're still using PPPOE, is to allow customers to use their own hardware.
@@Tek4You-you are right the upload is much faster around 2.3 and i have an explanation- im using hardening (security) so it lower the performance. The next plan is to buy another router that has 2.2ghz speed and to see if i will able to improve this. I been told that it should be enough ! Anyway I promise to keep you posted
@@MrAsafalfa I've got an update for you. I've been testing pfSense v2.7 on a 3 gigabits per second internet connection. Impressively, I'm seeing speeds ranging between 3 to 3.3 gigabits per second for both downloads and uploads during my tests using speedtest.net. However, I noticed that it's still maxing out a single core on a Xeon processor. Oh yes, I forgot to mention this is a 3 gigabits per second symmetrical package and it looks like the ISP provides a little bit above for the overhead.
I guess you are not paying attention, or maybe I didn't explain well enough. The solution is to get a faster processor. Ideally you want to processor has a higher score for single core performance. Second solution don't use ISPs the use PPPOE.
It seems there might be a bottleneck in your setup. For reference, I use a Xeon E5-2470 v2 CPU and achieve speeds of 3100 Mbps. I began achieving these speeds after upgrading the server's processor.
@@Tek4You- Did you reach this speed on pppoe connection? I have a similar processor, but I cannot reach 1Gbps both in downloading and uploading. I used HP DL360 G8, onboard ethernet and pfsense 2.7.
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I had a very low upload speed, out of 100 Mbps, it was 3.5 Mbps. Enabling Compression and TCPmssFix in Advanced Configuration PPPoE helped me, and everything took off.
Interesting, we'll have to test this in the lab. Thanks for sharing.
I've just conducted another speed test on the same router featured in the video, this time using Bell fibre internet. The download speed has now reached an impressive 925.79 Mbps.
So glad Bell does NOT use PPPOE in Manitoba for their FTTH. I get full speed using any type of router.
Bell's operations vary by province. Not surprising that they decided not to use PPPOE.
Nevertheless, I'd like to know the model of the gateway unit they supplied you with.
It's the Home Hub 3000@@Tek4You-
Oh, yes the HUB 3000, I remember that one, I had it too.
Did you know, that it actually has a removable transceiver.
I have Bell Fibe 3G/3G and PPPoE in pfSense is still holding it back a bit. With a direct 10G LAN connection into the HH4000 the speed immediately hits 3.2G. Through pfSense PPPoE, it climbs to 2700Mbps after a few seconds. I wish there was a way to add static routes in the HH4000 so I didn't have to double-NAT when using the HH4000 internal PPPoE. Please Bell, it's all I want for Christmas. OK that, and 8G/8G in my area.
If I understand correctly, when configuring PPPoE on pfSense as a client, a static route for the gateway IPv4 10.50.44.193 is established. Furthermore, there's a possibility that 10 Gbps networking is already available in your area. To achieve speeds of 3 Gbps per second, the transceivers on both the UNT and OLT need to be 10 Gbps. However, it's unclear to me why 8 Gbps packages are not being offered in your area. It's possible that the connections between central offices or to the peering exchange are not sufficiently fast, which might be the reason why they are not offering 10 Gbps services.
You’re lucky, I’ve got a phenom 4 core and with pass through I’m barely hitting 1 G down.
@@BrodeyDoverosx I have a different setup now - An Asus RT-AX89X which has 10G PPPoE support and hardware NAT acceleration - I've also got 2 of those new ONTi L3 10G switches from AliExpress.
Change your MTU to 1452. That will also help.
Why 1452? That doesn't make sense to me, as PPPoE overhead is only 8 bytes. pfSense automatically adjusts this to 1492 for a PPPoE connection. Even if you're implementing VLAN tagging (only if it's required) on the WAN interface, which adds an overhead of 4 bytes, it should result in an MTU of 1488 bytes.
which version of pfsense did you use?
That is a good question. The video was filmed on 2021-10-26, so it would have featured the most recent version available at that time.
@@Tek4You- hi! I set up the pppoe connection on the newest pfplus version, netgate 6100. 500mbit connection, i reach full speed. Processors/cores are bored :)
The Navigate 6100 should not have an issue handling a 500 megabits per second connection over PPPoE. However, it might encounter issues with connections over 1000 megabits per second using PPPoE. But I wouldn't be surprised if PPPoE gets patched in the future, or not seeing how old it is.
this is well known that PPPoE is single CPU utilization - and for unknown reason lot's of ISPs around the world are using thie method... which is problematic for the end user !
Im having the same problem - and my connectivity is 5Gb - and i get at the best 1.5Gb:/ with UDM pro for this instent
I have not idea how to be able to get my 5Gb... and no ISP does not supply L3 solution .. i need ot come up by my self
Parallel well-known issue now, but when I Google this 4 5 years ago I didn't find anything on this, only one article buried under search results.
My theory why they're still using PPPOE, is to allow customers to use their own hardware.
Forget to ask you, how is your upload on your 5 Gb connection? Because for upload PPPOE uses multiple cores.
@@Tek4You-you are right the upload is much faster around 2.3 and i have an explanation- im using hardening (security) so it lower the performance.
The next plan is to buy another router that has 2.2ghz speed and to see if i will able to improve this.
I been told that it should be enough !
Anyway I promise to keep you posted
@@MrAsafalfa I've got an update for you. I've been testing pfSense v2.7 on a 3 gigabits per second internet connection. Impressively, I'm seeing speeds ranging between 3 to 3.3 gigabits per second for both downloads and uploads during my tests using speedtest.net. However, I noticed that it's still maxing out a single core on a Xeon processor.
Oh yes, I forgot to mention this is a 3 gigabits per second symmetrical package and it looks like the ISP provides a little bit above for the overhead.
No solution? I have the same problem.
I guess you are not paying attention, or maybe I didn't explain well enough.
The solution is to get a faster processor. Ideally you want to processor has a higher score for single core performance.
Second solution don't use ISPs the use PPPOE.
@@Tek4You- I was kinda hoping for a software fix 😀
@@Tek4You- I tested with a Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE and with BELL 3Gbps plan I get MAX 1.5Gbps. A faster CPU is not the solution for everyone.
It seems there might be a bottleneck in your setup. For reference, I use a Xeon E5-2470 v2 CPU and achieve speeds of 3100 Mbps. I began achieving these speeds after upgrading the server's processor.
@@Tek4You- Did you reach this speed on pppoe connection? I have a similar processor, but I cannot reach 1Gbps both in downloading and uploading.
I used HP DL360 G8, onboard ethernet and pfsense 2.7.