Mageddon is actually quite a beautiful narrative, Grant Morrison has said he created the character as a representation of the depression he experienced after his fathers death. And the justice league defeating it was symbolic of him coming to terms with the loss of father.
So basically he's one of the biggest villains no one ever heard of? They're actually quite nice to see, since, well, we can't always have Darksied invading the Earth.
The graphic novel collection of this story was the first comic book I ever read. Even as a kid, the sheer power and terror the Mageddon weapon displayed scared the crap out of me. All these heroes I had watched on the DC Animated Universe shows were less than ants compared to the super weapon, the god killer. But hope prevailed. Not just the Justice League, but every man and woman of planet Earth, even the angels themselves, stood united against this primordial threat, and through that unity found the courage and willpower to face this nameless fear. Chills. Absolute chills. Such a great story. In some ways, I'm kinda thankful that it hasn't ever really been brought up again. I just feel like they wouldn't be able to do it, well, justice.
I could see him being brought back as one of the beings Perpetua was trying to evolve humans to overcome. They could just say that was just a fraction of his true power, it being something like dark Seid or just a weapon like you said.
Where are those haters and debunkers, who always said that magedon is just planetary level, the anti sun is smaller than our sun, and superman absorbing anti sun is just solar system level...??
Bring these gems back, they should stomp this new guy( the darkest night/Batman who laughs). I don’t think Batman who laughs is terrible character but he could have been handled better in my opinion.
The panel of Joe Chill killing Mars and Krypton is one of my absolute favorites in all of comics. How beautifully the grief of three men is interweaved and how they overcome it. World War 3 is an excellent story and an awesome ending to the best JLA run.
"Ok, so we're making this big weapon that can kill gods right?" "Yeah?" "And it's completely mindless, only driven by the goal to destroy absolutely everything in every universe it can get to." "Where are you going with this?" "Well, we're gods. So why are we building this thing?" "To kill our enemies, duh!" "But in that case, wouldn't it be nice to have some safeguards, or at the very least an instruction to not wipe out us and our stuff?" "You're thinking too much, there's no way we wouldn't be able to stop this if it went rogue, it's easy, just yank the anti-sun out of its core while withstanding the mental field we designed to be impossible for anyone to withstand, EASY PEASY!"
FINALLY. I always saw this name referenced here and there but couldn't find much about him on any websites/fandom, even though he felt like such an intimidating DC villain. Thank you for making this❤️
Great video! I have to ask have you been able to read Death Metal: Secret Origin? Its all about Superboy Prime, written by Johns and it completes all the character growth you go over in your Superboy Prime video.
So glad I clicked on this to just be sure, I almost didn't - having not heard of the character it doesn't look like a DC video, just a suggestion but putting '(DC Comics)' at the end would avoid others missing it!
@@ugurkaraalioglu2813 oh yeah I forgot about that thing, but I don't know anything about it, what makes it above them and also is it above the apparently Omnipotent Milk-Man Man.
Man, if your Discord is up to fanboying Dominus (video when?), Mandrakk, and Mageddon, I might have to join it, lol. Though I would personally replace Mageddon with Zachary Zor, the Time Tailor in the little grouping of forgotten mega-powerhouses.
@Shawn Kuhn Death metal 1 at worst implies the source and the presence are the same being which then makes even more people scale above the presence via scaling above the source. probably the worst possible arguement you could make
keep up the good content, loved the more infographic format of videos, the lucifer 4 parter was a bit of a overkill, congrats on the growth and amazing content glad you didn't stick to making anime videos haha, anyway merry Christmas and i look forward to another year of these amazing videos
@@SpacePirate69 5th Dimensional in the context of 5th Dimensional Imps is completely different. Especially given how Mxy has explained it. His explanation seems to infer that Dimensions in his context are more akin to layers of existence or realms that infinitely transcendental in hierarchy and not geometrical dimensions in the conventional sense. "The First Dimension is a point. The second is a line. the third is matter. The fourth is tick-tock time. The Fifth is Imagination." adding on to this is the fact that Perpetua's awakening being called the emergence of the 6th Dimension. or as Mxy describes "Beyond Imagination". Something that also affirms this is a character known as Kismet, an 11th dimensional being who's been beaten by characters that got slapped by Mxy (or someone who had his powers).
You should have used the intro from Sympathy for the Devil for that one. I mean can you imagine the Batman who laughs giving a cocky bow being all falsely gentlemanly saying " please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of style and taste." ?
Prime is not more powerful than either of them. The only reason he was able to actually fight the Batman Who Laughs was because he had been weakened by Perpetua. Otherwise, he'd have no chance.
@@pietrocatalano4285 if I remember correctly the bwl absorbed crisis and the anti crisis energy after Perpetua fight The bwl said their strengths and power are equal for superboy prime
@@pietrocatalano4285 Always an excuse 😂 When Superman or Superboy Prime do something that proves that they are the most powerful characters in DC everyone makes excuses why they do the impossible happen. Just like in this video Superman defeats this villan but people are going to say no he didn't 😂
Forgot this guy even existed and I didn't know that he was so powerful, but could Shaman King beat him?? Also can't wait for that Mandrakk video, people need to know just how insane Cosmic Armour and Mandrakk are, people still think they're only Universal and not Hyperversal.
Well put together video Parrott. There’s just one problem. What you said about Darkseid. Yes Maggedon may be physically more powerful than Darkseid on average but if you think even for a moment this event scared him or threatened him you are sadly mistaken. Yes Darkseid may not have been more powerful than Maggedon and yes he’s not as smart as someone like a Metron but in combat and in military warfare and strategy he is easily one of if not the most witty New God. He was literally going to neg/survive Perputa destroying all of creation everything from the source wall to the microverse would have been destroyed, yet Darkseid and all of apoklips would have survived. The way he would have done this is he made a dimension called the ghost sector that exists outside of creation/the source, and in the event that creation would have ceased to exist, he would have used a motherbox and access the dimension via boom tube and transfer himself all of apoklips and it’s inhabitants out of creation and basically would have survived the end of all of existence. Now before someone tries to argue with me ask yourself one question do you think Maggedon scales to Perputa at all? Just a little food for thought is all.
Still well put together video. I think it’s cool that Morrison further expanded upon the mythos made by kirby about how the Old Gods were predecessors to the New Gods, and we don’t know much about them aside from they were their ancestors and it’s cool to get a little more insight into how they operated and who they were, and how their planet was ripped apart in the first place.
Christmas Mageddon, festive annihilator, merry billion eyed beast of the abyss to you all!
And to you to my boi!!
Merry Christmas to you too Parrot 🎄😂
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL 🎄🎁😀
Are meta humans real I'll be one then
@@mr.laststand5566 jojo
Mageddon is actually quite a beautiful narrative, Grant Morrison has said he created the character as a representation of the depression he experienced after his fathers death. And the justice league defeating it was symbolic of him coming to terms with the loss of father.
I honestly thought Mageddon is a unique take on eldritch abominations by Grant Morrison, though that’s actually quite sad to hear.
So basically he's one of the biggest villains no one ever heard of? They're actually quite nice to see, since, well, we can't always have Darksied invading the Earth.
Is Mageddon a villain? Threat yes, but the story suggests it's not properly conscious, just a machine completing its purpose
@@redjirachi1 Fair enough.
i actually like the fact that mageddon has never appeared again, it makes this universal war feel more climactic
The graphic novel collection of this story was the first comic book I ever read. Even as a kid, the sheer power and terror the Mageddon weapon displayed scared the crap out of me. All these heroes I had watched on the DC Animated Universe shows were less than ants compared to the super weapon, the god killer. But hope prevailed. Not just the Justice League, but every man and woman of planet Earth, even the angels themselves, stood united against this primordial threat, and through that unity found the courage and willpower to face this nameless fear.
Chills. Absolute chills. Such a great story. In some ways, I'm kinda thankful that it hasn't ever really been brought up again. I just feel like they wouldn't be able to do it, well, justice.
"The presence and the angelic host flee and plan the construction of a new creation, in case this one falls to the harbinger"
God. Damn.
Yea I definitely noticed that
Yeah they figured that nobody in the Omniverse could beat that thing so they just up and left because it would've been easier.
......
@Adam Superhuggy yeah well why didn't they do anything??
So much for omnipotent God...
I could see him being brought back as one of the beings Perpetua was trying to evolve humans to overcome. They could just say that was just a fraction of his true power, it being something like dark Seid or just a weapon like you said.
"Bruce says i don't care if it can destroy every god in every heaven, because it's never face us before".
now where did i heard that before
Snyder cut trailer
Where are those haters and debunkers, who always said that magedon is just planetary level, the anti sun is smaller than our sun, and superman absorbing anti sun is just solar system level...??
Is DC'S Santa Claus outerversal because he stated he was a part of the dreams or the dreaming.
Yes
Bring these gems back, they should stomp this new guy( the darkest night/Batman who laughs). I don’t think Batman who laughs is terrible character but he could have been handled better in my opinion.
Finally someone knows that he's not Omnipotent.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki when you start slinging multiverse planets at the creator of the known multiverse, you might think otherwise
@@OreoBrawl if either perpetua or the darkest knight were omnipotent, this whole comic run won’t be happening rn
@@OreoBrawl lmaoo nothing you said is even close to omnipotent.
Never heard of this guy howdy parrot hows the work and merry Christmas eve
"three characters who never got reappearances" besides in scribblenauts unmasked :p
The panel of Joe Chill killing Mars and Krypton is one of my absolute favorites in all of comics. How beautifully the grief of three men is interweaved and how they overcome it. World War 3 is an excellent story and an awesome ending to the best JLA run.
"Ok, so we're making this big weapon that can kill gods right?"
"Yeah?"
"And it's completely mindless, only driven by the goal to destroy absolutely everything in every universe it can get to."
"Where are you going with this?"
"Well, we're gods. So why are we building this thing?"
"To kill our enemies, duh!"
"But in that case, wouldn't it be nice to have some safeguards, or at the very least an instruction to not wipe out us and our stuff?"
"You're thinking too much, there's no way we wouldn't be able to stop this if it went rogue, it's easy, just yank the anti-sun out of its core while withstanding the mental field we designed to be impossible for anyone to withstand, EASY PEASY!"
FINALLY. I always saw this name referenced here and there but couldn't find much about him on any websites/fandom, even though he felt like such an intimidating DC villain. Thank you for making this❤️
Parrot you r the best. Thanks for all of the great content. Please keep it going. Merry Christmas
A being that can almost break Superman’s hope is scary
In your opinion who would win in a fight between Maggedon and the Otherkind?
Mageddon is not a supervillain. It is a Lovecraftian doomsday device
I really should read more 90s comics. They really bring back more 90 villains. Just think of a team up between Monarch, Savitar, and Prometheus.
Talk about First of Fallen
I love your work. I never liked literature. But this is a precious product. You made me change my mind.
Great video! I have to ask have you been able to read Death Metal: Secret Origin? Its all about Superboy Prime, written by Johns and it completes all the character growth you go over in your Superboy Prime video.
So glad I clicked on this to just be sure, I almost didn't - having not heard of the character it doesn't look like a DC video, just a suggestion but putting '(DC Comics)' at the end would avoid others missing it!
Christmas came early this year huh. Happy holidayss everyone, and thanks for the content WCP
They are killed and their souls become one with the Abyss.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki based
@@badcatsgetdissolved4506 ??
This got rather Lovecraftian.
With mandrakk it's less that he got no reappearance and more that we try block out the ones he did get
Yeah the "Unexpected" is something I try to forget.
Presence in vertigo: Top Dog
Presence in mainline DC: Batman victim at this point
I never click this fast
So the old gods created weapons even the presence can't handle? Wayyz
Superman can
@@goofybutserious4807 Story Of Superman can beat anything.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki expect Leviathan of stories
@@ugurkaraalioglu2813 oh yeah I forgot about that thing, but I don't know anything about it, what makes it above them and also is it above the apparently Omnipotent Milk-Man Man.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki milkman man is not omnipotent if its weaker than story of superman
Do you make all these videos on your own knowledge, or do you prepare for each topic for a while and read various things on the wiki?
Generally I read every comic appearence on the character for a video.
@@WebCamParrot Hello Merry Christmas eve and hope you have a great Christmas day? Can Pralaya stop
Mageddon?
@@gabrielhughes8221 effortlessly.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki oh wow,
@@gabrielhughes8221 it's true, she's above everything and Mageddon is a thing.
Merry Christmas! :D
Man, if your Discord is up to fanboying Dominus (video when?), Mandrakk, and Mageddon, I might have to join it, lol. Though I would personally replace Mageddon with Zachary Zor, the Time Tailor in the little grouping of forgotten mega-powerhouses.
Time Tailor is cool too. I definitely do want to cover Dominus in a video at some point. Really underrated villain. Maybe in the next month or so.
I love your channel, well done.
It annoys me when people say the presence is the strongest character in DC when things like this exist
@Shawn Kuhn Truth
@Shawn Kuhn Death metal 1 at worst implies the source and the presence are the same being which then makes even more people scale above the presence via scaling above the source. probably the worst possible arguement you could make
@Shawn Kuhn lmao the overmoniter and writer are stronger then the presence
@Shawn Kuhn when was he ever "confirmed to be the strongest" and why would that override years of comics that contradict that
@Shawn Kuhn he is the supreme being for the multiverse and the MAJORITY of dc but he’s still not the strongest
I heard that JLA theme song music, people please tell me I'm not alone
Dominus will be returning soon
keep up the good content, loved the more infographic format of videos, the lucifer 4 parter was a bit of a overkill, congrats on the growth and amazing content glad you didn't stick to making anime videos haha, anyway merry Christmas and i look forward to another year of these amazing videos
Well this is something extraordinary
@Abhikrishna PS 👽👽
do highest end feats of marvel 'powerhouses' like sentry, ss, hulk , thor all comnied to see who got the best 1s
So my understanding is Mageddon 5th Dimensional Beings>Old Gods>Darkseid and Highfather and Orion>Source I know this could be wrong
Relatively correct, but all of those characters are beyond 5th dimensional
@@gigawarman12So, Mxy could shit his pants if he saw Mageddon?
@@SpacePirate69 5th Dimensional in the context of 5th Dimensional Imps is completely different. Especially given how Mxy has explained it. His explanation seems to infer that Dimensions in his context are more akin to layers of existence or realms that infinitely transcendental in hierarchy and not geometrical dimensions in the conventional sense.
"The First Dimension is a point. The second is a line. the third is matter. The fourth is tick-tock time. The Fifth is Imagination."
adding on to this is the fact that Perpetua's awakening being called the emergence of the 6th Dimension. or as Mxy describes "Beyond Imagination".
Something that also affirms this is a character known as Kismet, an 11th dimensional being who's been beaten by characters that got slapped by Mxy (or someone who had his powers).
@@gigawarman12 Interesting
Great video
Pretty cool never heard of this story so it was fun hearing about it
Superman: This is the WORST foe we've ever faced!
*17 YEARS LATER*
Batman Who Laughs: Hello! Let me introduce myself.
You should have used the intro from Sympathy for the Devil for that one. I mean can you imagine the Batman who laughs giving a cocky bow being all falsely gentlemanly saying " please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of style and taste." ?
So if Maggedon is a Primordial Annihilator he should be Sourcewall level Outerversal???
Yeah
He’s above source wall level
I've never been this early
Plz do a video on Kyle rayner he’s my favorite green lantern
I legit thought that said Megatron
bigthumbs up beautiful novel video dear friend like it
Mah Geh Dun from WW3? I remember trying to buy WW3 Black Adam, and getting a JLA titled WW3, I think Mah Geh Dun was the big bad 🤔 I could be wrong
He he nice to have dem ioks Boyz wwaahh theme from DOW 3
Great vid🤟 honestly wanna kno youre thoughts on the hulk vs broly battle. Hulk lost according to death battle.
notification gang for you parrot
Are you going to be power scaling any characters from marvel?
Oh, man ... this is it! 👏
When are you going to do the trigon video
Parrot what do you think about superboy prime and the bwl Superboy prime is more powerful than Dr Manhattan or Perpetua?
Prime is not more powerful than either of them. The only reason he was able to actually fight the Batman Who Laughs was because he had been weakened by Perpetua. Otherwise, he'd have no chance.
@@pietrocatalano4285 if I remember correctly the bwl absorbed crisis and the anti crisis energy after Perpetua fight The bwl said their strengths and power are equal for superboy prime
Bruh
@@pietrocatalano4285 Always an excuse 😂 When Superman or Superboy Prime do something that proves that they are the most powerful characters in DC everyone makes excuses why they do the impossible happen. Just like in this video Superman defeats this villan but people are going to say no he didn't 😂
@@andrefernan1016 don’t waste your breathe bro
is it more dangerous than imperiex?
Hard to say, I'm inclined to say yes? But I would have to reread all of the Imperiex stuff first to make a proper statement on that.
Please, do Spawn vs The Spectre.
Forgot this guy even existed and I didn't know that he was so powerful, but could Shaman King beat him??
Also can't wait for that Mandrakk video, people need to know just how insane Cosmic Armour and Mandrakk are, people still think they're only Universal and not Hyperversal.
Talk about Eclipso.
Put respect in Superman and Superboy Prime name. They are the 2 most powerful characters in DC 💪👊
Well put together video Parrott. There’s just one problem. What you said about Darkseid. Yes Maggedon may be physically more powerful than Darkseid on average but if you think even for a moment this event scared him or threatened him you are sadly mistaken. Yes Darkseid may not have been more powerful than Maggedon and yes he’s not as smart as someone like a Metron but in combat and in military warfare and strategy he is easily one of if not the most witty New God. He was literally going to neg/survive Perputa destroying all of creation everything from the source wall to the microverse would have been destroyed, yet Darkseid and all of apoklips would have survived. The way he would have done this is he made a dimension called the ghost sector that exists outside of creation/the source, and in the event that creation would have ceased to exist, he would have used a motherbox and access the dimension via boom tube and transfer himself all of apoklips and it’s inhabitants out of creation and basically would have survived the end of all of existence. Now before someone tries to argue with me ask yourself one question do you think Maggedon scales to Perputa at all? Just a little food for thought is all.
Still well put together video. I think it’s cool that Morrison further expanded upon the mythos made by kirby about how the Old Gods were predecessors to the New Gods, and we don’t know much about them aside from they were their ancestors and it’s cool to get a little more insight into how they operated and who they were, and how their planet was ripped apart in the first place.
Did you just say that the PRESENCE abandoned all of creation and would make a new creation incase this being came or am I just hearing things ?
Yeah the presence just up and fled from maggedon
CTHULU
So dangerous even God himself flees from it
And of course, superman has to save the day...ugh dc youre hard to love sometimes.