Wow my machine is almost as clean as yours! Can I make one suggestion? When you mill from both sides with a feed mill. Don’t try to go all the way thru. Go down enough to leave a thin web. If you go thru the material gets thin and bends away from the tool and will twist up and go thru the flutes breaking/chipping them. Because of the big tip radius/lead angle. It’s better to leave say about .06” of material (with your tool size) than cut thru in one cut with a standard endmill. Don’t ask how I know this. Been there done that.
Thank you kind stranger! I will leave more meat in future. Never did hear how your adventures in Fusion 360 went. But I see they ended in Esprit; so read betwix the lines?
@@arduinoversusevil2025 I still do mess a little with fusion. But for the Mazak Integrex Esprit is better. Esprits support is better. Fusion makes you go to a second party for post processor support. Or even to make a special one for the Mazak. Witch is necessary. They don’t have one in their library. Also as of now I don’t like the simulation in Fusion compared to Esprit TNG. Night and day difference. But for the cost Fusion is a very good value and the cad side does work good. Thanks!
Junior machinist here. Not quite catching what you're saying. Are you talking about when you're cutting a piece in half or something? Can i get you to explain more in depth?
@UCayFr7DN5Wca37psdbchwRg In working with high feed mills the depth of cut is very small. This is to take advantage of the chip thinning principal of a cutting tool. So they have a big radius on the face of the tool. But because of that shallow depth of cut. If you are breaking thru to the other side of the material let’s say in a outside profile, slot or hole. The last passes the material left at the bottom is so thin before the tool actually breaks thru. Generally what happens is the thin web of material left will then to bend away from the end face of the tool and not be cut. Because it isn’t stiff enough. It also will overheat from the cutting edges rubbing instead of cutting as it bends away from the face end of the tool. This is because of the shallow axial depth of cut. What is better is to cut only to a depth that the material won’t bend away from the tool. This sort of depends on the diameter of the tool. When I’m using a 3.00” diameter high feed mill I leave at least .125”. Than come in with a standard tool and take the last .125” all in one cut. If in my example it is a 3.00” dia feed mill I use a regular face mill that cuts a 90 deg corner. But what I do is go .100 past the final depth so I’m cutting just with the sides of the inserts. Cutting off the scrap in one cut. That may be hard to visualize from a written description. Maybe I will make a video demonstrating what I’m describing.
@@awesomezing4455 thin web means the piece will flex up or down, pinching on the tool. I had an assistant ripping some timber on a saw and they would "help" pull the pieces as I pushed and when they squeezed the pieces together into the kerf, that would bind on the blade and the whole show leap alarmingly into the air.
Once you get the hang of it lol. Fusion has been amazing at speeding up the process over other cam programs. With a robust knowledge of your post and machine you can tear through programs and parts. While im not professionally running machines anymore i still do a bunch of programming and machining for a frc team, i can get through programming a couple discrete parts per hour. The biggest time hog is getting the workholding right. Literally after that, so long as i checked the program it if it makes the first pass or movement ok on the machine, i turn the feeds up and walk away.
@@salvadorebertolone Only if you have an industry standard, newer cnc machine. Trying to go from cad to cnc on older machine is a nightmare from formatting issues to unknown G and M codes to toolpath and tool changing errors. And thats not even taking into account user error. Its never easy.
@@jtb6075 those old (80s) cheap fadals are pretty easy to get running quick. The use a damn near standard fanuc code. Anything older isnt worth it imo unless its a huge machine thats worth a retrofit. Once you understand how to edit a post and how the cam dumps to the post you can run like fire. The caveat is that you understand the limitations of the entire system, if you can program within them its literally pushing a button. I have high schoolers running my programs after only a few hours on the control. The more reliable a program, the less skill required on the machine operator. Basically clamp the part, load the program, touch the tool off according to the setup sheet, ensure the workholding is correct to the setup, sheet, indicate the work offset, turn rapids and feeds down to 10%, press the green button, make sure it does the first cut correct, and then turn the feeds up.
11:11 Exquisite choice of music Mr. AvE. Had a buddy of mine who played nothing but Wolfe Tones and Irish Rovers while we ran deliveries, I suppose I took a bit of a liking to it.
Isn't that the whole point. Use it because it is cheap. Spend 10X as much to make it work or better yet spend 100X and fail. Now there some bureaucracy for you.
Where I work (medical devices) the things you did in this video would have taken at least 6 months. I've worked at other places where we're talking 2 - 5 days.
Re: Feed mills: Welcome to the future of milling (10 years ago). Re: Fusion: Now you know why no multiaxis shops use it unless they are getting sponsored by autodesk
I wonder if Mr. Saunders watches these videos with a bowl of popcorn and the lights out like they're horror films. It's fun watching you figure out how to do shit I'll probably never even start to play with. The bumblefuckery is entertaining as hell.
@chase weeks - You and me both regarding "someone else do'n shit we'll probably never start playing with" ... but the day is coming when hobbyist level 3D metal printers will become reality.
Michael Angelo started with a block of marble and just chiseled away everything that wasn't David. Ave started with a chunk of Hardened Rail line and ..... 👍 Well, I wonder how many block of marble wound up in the fuckit bucket before he got David
Ok, so i recently bought my first CNC router, and i spent a week making a stupid wooden spoon, and my experience was about the same as this video, had every problem imaginable with Fusion 360, machine, and my own stupidity. Now i thought it only thought it happened because i'm a beginner, but after seeing this video looks like it's just a sad reality of CNC machining.
Finished a 5 week CNC machining course at the local community college. Trained on Haas controllers and made some darn fine coasters. Now doing the 15 week manual machining course. Your channel was one of the ones that let me know I should pursue this field of study. Curious to see how sharp you can get this using only the mill!
HALF THE TIME??? Geez, I'd be hard pressed to go 1/2 of that 1/2 . Actually I'd not be tellin' the truthful truth for only a sliver/portion of that 1/2 of 1/2. Cool looking "Hot Damn" equipment there - of course you could do that same thing with a good file too.
Being British and having learned 'American English', Ave's 'canucistan' isn't too difficult to translate most of the time. Canadian is a lot closer to British English than American English. Loses me completely with anything CAD or CNC though
"There is nothing more important in the entire world then going out into the unknown and reporting what you found at the edge of the world" Now ain't that the truth
Thanks AvE. You have put the tin hat on my ever buying a CNC machine, it looks dam hard to get the hang of it and if you can't master it then I certainly can't.
I didn't understand any of that, but thoroughly enjoyed it, you could tell from the start that cutter was the dogs bollocks, I knew you were clever....but your clever beyond the point of messing around (which you do most of the time) and that machine OMFG some serious $$$$$ invested, good work
You only need one work offset with a proper 5 axis machine running tilted planes and tool center point control. Kinematic compensation takes care of the rest 😏
@@arduinoversusevil2025 I've commented a bunch of times over the years, usually they just get lost at sea. Made some recommendations on cutting this stuff on the previous video. I do like those high feed mills. Been using them for about 14 years. I pushed a 4 inch Sandvik 210 so hard on my machine at IMTS 2008, a Makino guy came over and begged me to stop because the vibration in the floor kept popping his 2mm ball mills 😉. Day job consists of working for a company that makes the machines that makes the machines that Gene puts out in the wild 👌
@@TheFeralEngineer I have absolutely no idea what you were talking about but the phrase “kinematic compensation” sounded so cool I gave you a thumbs up anyway.
Still one of my favorite TH-cam channels. I dont machine but im a industrial maintenance mechanic but i still learn shit from you always. It did take me awhile to learn your Canuckistany language cuz im a city boy from NJ
You are supposed to take the maximum axial depth of cut with those tools, not a tiny little cut like you are. Then, according to the chart you showed, 75% radial depth of cut. Also, the SFM determines your spindle speed, not your feed rate, so backing that off is only going to create a larger chip load and a heavier load on the tool.
Not very. Tool and material stays cool, very little heat transfer to tool or material in high feed milling. The heat is transferred almost entirely into the chips. It’s one of the benefits to high feed milling when you have thermally unstable material or easily work hardened material.
Glad to see you are finally learning how to use that thing. Imo i never really understood solid carbide high feed mills, or maybe i was never in a situation where i couldnt make a high feed indexable mill work, at least for roughing. They still wear quickly enough that id rather be changing inserts than sending it out for sharpening.
What you need is a Marvel band saw with a hot rod blade to cut out the chunks you want to use, and not have to do all that mill work to get down to the start point. That rail material is some nasty tough stuff, especially the used stuff on the top surface. High feed mill is an excellent choice for this endeavor. I don't see why these high feed end mills are so damn expensive. Looks like once they get the geometry figured out, it's just the cost of the carbide blank + grinder time + markup. I know it's like a proprietary thing the company comes up with, and you are buying the idea and development as much as you are the physical tool. Looks like anyone with a 3D laser scanner, and a 7 axis grinder, could pretty much reverse engineer any cutting tool on the market. These will be on Banggood or Aliexpress before long. Those Chinese don't miss a beat.
I believe you have defined the very soul of AvE, it is as aesthetically pleasing to the ears as it is mellifluous to the eyes... ... And, sometimes I have a hard time keeping up😅 EDIT - spelling
Working deep into the night! Been there before. Personal record was 37hrs straight to get shit figured out & fixed. Hard deadline with no option for it not to be working. The worst part is the next day having to update all the documentation, BOMs, drawings, inspection procedures, etc.
@@PassifloraCerulea It means that you're doing something the most complicated way possible, Rube Goldberg-like. Somehow a wacky murder is used as illustration, I don't know why, idioms are funny sometimes.
Rotation issue is a first pair / second pair selection issue. A 5 axis trunnion like yours can get to a position in two possible ways, either rotate A first than B (first pair) or rotate B first then A (second pair). I Don’t have F360 in front of me but in the 5 axis rotations menu there should be an option somewhere for selecting first pair or second pair rotations.
One of the few things I remember from shop class is bullnose bits are better the flats for material removal. Decades later, good to see that unused knowledge is true.
You might be the only shop with a 5-axis Haas that is heated by a woodstove. From down in the states that seems pretty Canadian. I want to see you making Aerospace grade Spiles next.
Also short story / PSA this video reminds me of that time I was younger and dumber trying too modify a hatchet into a viking axe. I'll try to save some of the details (but Im a carpenter and no machinest) my shop was basically a 6X10 closet) But I thought I needed more speed trying to grind in the beard portion of the axe. So I swapped out the drill press mounted drum sander, and after lookingg through the tool chest I spotted my compact router and a light bulb when off. " yeah that will accept a 1/4 " shaft" I thought as I chucked it up. "Genius" I said to myself as I tighted up the collet. Now the router was just a dewalt compact variable speed router. Small body lots of rpm ( up to 30k rpm). I could control the feed and pressure I told myself. Turned it on and nearly died. Literally. Rpm were cranked right up after a quick test and almost immediately the shaft of the drum sander bent to about 75° and I had a flywheel of death in my hands. I had 2 hands around the body of the router barely being able to hang on as the vibrations from the drumsander acting acting as a fly wheel instanstantly blistered and tore and burned up my hands and stomach because I was jammimg it up to my body to try and stabaise it. I knew I couldnt let go, and let this thing bounce around the closest which would at the very least maim me if not worse but I was also losing my grip and my hands were burning really intensly after about 10 secs of trying to hold onto this thing which I can only describe as trying to hold onto the drive shaft of your car while its doing 100 km/h. My thumbs couldnt reach the off switch amd i had this plugged into a 12ft ext cord but i was finally able to get all the slack out of the cord wiht my feet by wrapping the cord around my lag and yank it from the outlet. I've been and working around trades since about 9 years old, Ive helped build scaffolds 400' feet in the air, built bridges,operated countless tools and been on numerous outdoor adventures. Too this day I've never been as close to meeting our maker as that day or been more scared. Aside from all the other value you provide, I just wanted to thank you for the insight and sharing your expierience with us AvE.. Especially the mistakes !
Not foolproof, but one way to catch crashes before they happen is to hit Position and go to the "Distance to go" tab. You can have that window open while the program is running
I'm going to be a bit blunt. You've got a Lamborghini and you've swapped the engine for a 4 cylinder out of a Chevette. Ditch fusion and get a legit cad software. I've run a number of cad packages and I'll tell you that Solidworks is the way to go. Remember, you get what you pay for (including free advice).
I use a 17mm Kyocera MFH Raptor indexable mill for high feed. 1.5mm fz at 220m/min only cuts about .75mm deep per pass. Works out way cheaper than solid carbs.
You can get inserted high feed mills on Aliexpress cheap. A 18mm cutter body and 20 inserts with 4 edges each for $80. I just tried mine out last night. The thing cuts like a hot damn. Only thing crapy I saw were the insert screws I swaped them out for some Sandvik ones. Only thing is I have a Proto Trak and the max feed rate is only 100 imp.
You can get some Champlain bridge steel from the old bridge that is being taken down in Quebec, it would be interesting to see some projects with that.
AvE You were brought up on the Linus Tech Tips WAN Show today and Linus was talking that he had tried to find a way to get ahold of you to do a collaboration but was unable to figure out how to get ahold of you. As someone who watches all your videos as well as LTT videos I'm sure there would be a great opportunity.
Wow my machine is almost as clean as yours! Can I make one suggestion? When you mill from both sides with a feed mill. Don’t try to go all the way thru. Go down enough to leave a thin web. If you go thru the material gets thin and bends away from the tool and will twist up and go thru the flutes breaking/chipping them. Because of the big tip radius/lead angle. It’s better to leave say about .06” of material (with your tool size) than cut thru in one cut with a standard endmill. Don’t ask how I know this. Been there done that.
Thank you kind stranger! I will leave more meat in future. Never did hear how your adventures in Fusion 360 went. But I see they ended in Esprit; so read betwix the lines?
@@arduinoversusevil2025 I still do mess a little with fusion. But for the Mazak Integrex Esprit is better. Esprits support is better. Fusion makes you go to a second party for post processor support. Or even to make a special one for the Mazak. Witch is necessary. They don’t have one in their library. Also as of now I don’t like the simulation in Fusion compared to Esprit TNG. Night and day difference. But for the cost Fusion is a very good value and the cad side does work good. Thanks!
Junior machinist here. Not quite catching what you're saying. Are you talking about when you're cutting a piece in half or something? Can i get you to explain more in depth?
@UCayFr7DN5Wca37psdbchwRg In working with high feed mills the depth of cut is very small. This is to take advantage of the chip thinning principal of a cutting tool. So they have a big radius on the face of the tool. But because of that shallow depth of cut. If you are breaking thru to the other side of the material let’s say in a outside profile, slot or hole. The last passes the material left at the bottom is so thin before the tool actually breaks thru. Generally what happens is the thin web of material left will then to bend away from the end face of the tool and not be cut. Because it isn’t stiff enough. It also will overheat from the cutting edges rubbing instead of cutting as it bends away from the face end of the tool. This is because of the shallow axial depth of cut. What is better is to cut only to a depth that the material won’t bend away from the tool. This sort of depends on the diameter of the tool. When I’m using a 3.00” diameter high feed mill I leave at least .125”. Than come in with a standard tool and take the last .125” all in one cut. If in my example it is a 3.00” dia feed mill I use a regular face mill that cuts a 90 deg corner. But what I do is go .100 past the final depth so I’m cutting just with the sides of the inserts. Cutting off the scrap in one cut. That may be hard to visualize from a written description. Maybe I will make a video demonstrating what I’m describing.
@@awesomezing4455 thin web means the piece will flex up or down, pinching on the tool. I had an assistant ripping some timber on a saw and they would "help" pull the pieces as I pushed and when they squeezed the pieces together into the kerf, that would bind on the blade and the whole show leap alarmingly into the air.
Well at this rate AvE might as well plant a tree, by the time he's done with the axe it'll be ready for chopping down.
He might be able to use a branch as the handle.
@@ColburnFreml How will he chop the branch with this axe so that he can make a handle for the axe out of that branch in order to chop the tree?
@@ColburnFreml what a conundrum!
Tabernac
Hahahahaha 😂 👍
The old axe needs you to go deeper but you don't got enough Y travel? Welcome to the club, bud.
@@camerondrew9402 THAT got a chuckle from me. - Joe -
If I had a dime every time some fresh off the boat shmuck told me that CNC machining is as easy as a push of a button, I wouldn't be machining anymore
50/50 manual guys who think cnc machining is button pushing to cad warriors thinking 2 hours on fusion means they can be head programmer
Once you get the hang of it lol. Fusion has been amazing at speeding up the process over other cam programs. With a robust knowledge of your post and machine you can tear through programs and parts. While im not professionally running machines anymore i still do a bunch of programming and machining for a frc team, i can get through programming a couple discrete parts per hour. The biggest time hog is getting the workholding right. Literally after that, so long as i checked the program it if it makes the first pass or movement ok on the machine, i turn the feeds up and walk away.
@@salvadorebertolone Only if you have an industry standard, newer cnc machine. Trying to go from cad to cnc on older machine is a nightmare from formatting issues to unknown G and M codes to toolpath and tool changing errors. And thats not even taking into account user error. Its never easy.
@@jtb6075 those old (80s) cheap fadals are pretty easy to get running quick. The use a damn near standard fanuc code. Anything older isnt worth it imo unless its a huge machine thats worth a retrofit. Once you understand how to edit a post and how the cam dumps to the post you can run like fire. The caveat is that you understand the limitations of the entire system, if you can program within them its literally pushing a button. I have high schoolers running my programs after only a few hours on the control. The more reliable a program, the less skill required on the machine operator. Basically clamp the part, load the program, touch the tool off according to the setup sheet, ensure the workholding is correct to the setup, sheet, indicate the work offset, turn rapids and feeds down to 10%, press the green button, make sure it does the first cut correct, and then turn the feeds up.
@@salvadorebertolone
If it’s an old FANUC based. You’re pretty set.
If it’s YASNAC based. Good luck sir!
Walking from Argentina across the America's to gift you a handle, might as well stop to drink some so I don't get there too early.
Axe from scrap rail...part 1 of 274...enjoy ;)
@@Kineth1 And in the end isn't it all just crap scrap.
Most expensive axe head in history, NASA, or even the US military couldn’t make a more costly axe
Right I the germans over engineered 😁
but this does seem difficult to calculate if u want a curve
Want a bet?
@@craigcode7103 only counts, if the cost of the mill is in play. I know a lot of dudes that spend a month on 1, hand forging
Damn I sure hope Canada doesn't run out of train tracks before you get this one done!
Seems like you need an angle grinder attachment for your CNC.
11:11 Exquisite choice of music Mr. AvE. Had a buddy of mine who played nothing but Wolfe Tones and Irish Rovers while we ran deliveries, I suppose I took a bit of a liking to it.
Well I don’t even think the British like the British
I thought I heard Kinky Boots!
We love a cheeky bit of IRA propaganda :)
@@domthetrout no, it's go on home british soldiers
And kinky boots
shoulda been titled: "how to add cost to your scrap rail"
It might be quicker for him to just smelt iron ore and learn how to blacksmith from scratch lol.
"I was wondering if she had her best friend plugged in"
Gold😂😂
Around here that's known as a meat substitute
Aaand demonitized!
The ol teeth rattler 2.0
Did not expect to hear "go on home British soldiers, go on home" in this vid. Can't beat the classics.
I'm sure Heir Wolfe Tone himveryself would have approved.
I love that all of his breakers are labeled “shop plugs”
Next week's episode: rail from scrap axe
That bookend is getting more expensive every time I see it.
Isn't that the whole point. Use it because it is cheap. Spend 10X as much to make it work or better yet spend 100X and fail. Now there some bureaucracy for you.
Talk about a _cutting edge bookend._
😊😊😊
May I axe you a question?
Said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and SAW!
People from NYC, always want to axe you Pacifically. Personally, I'm a chainsaw Atlantic man so...
@@ObservationofLimits lol..
That's rich
O see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw the axe AvE had yet to finish.
Where I work (medical devices) the things you did in this video would have taken at least 6 months. I've worked at other places where we're talking 2 - 5 days.
Thank you for all the hours of quality entertainment and the things you have learned me along the way. You're great!
Re: Feed mills: Welcome to the future of milling (10 years ago). Re: Fusion: Now you know why no multiaxis shops use it unless they are getting sponsored by autodesk
I wonder if Mr. Saunders watches these videos with a bowl of popcorn and the lights out like they're horror films. It's fun watching you figure out how to do shit I'll probably never even start to play with. The bumblefuckery is entertaining as hell.
Plenty of machinists watch ave on his haas for a chuckle
@chase weeks - You and me both regarding "someone else do'n shit we'll probably never start playing with" ... but the day is coming when hobbyist level 3D metal printers will become reality.
Michael Angelo started with a block of marble and just chiseled away everything that wasn't David. Ave started with a chunk of Hardened Rail line and ..... 👍
Well, I wonder how many block of marble wound up in the fuckit bucket before he got David
This is the insanity I missed. "I have a fun idea and a plan based on everything I can surmise but LET'S FUCKIN TRY IT BOYS"
Ok, so i recently bought my first CNC router, and i spent a week making a stupid wooden spoon, and my experience was about the same as this video, had every problem imaginable with Fusion 360, machine, and my own stupidity. Now i thought it only thought it happened because i'm a beginner, but after seeing this video looks like it's just a sad reality of CNC machining.
No it's not. You'll pick it up fast with practice. This is an AvE problem... but he'll get there eventually.
That's a pretty fancy hatchet, pretty sure that makes you the new leader of the juggalos.
He's too "out there" for them. Also, I've never seen Faygo laying around.
Gotta say I approve of the Bluestack on the stereo, I do enjoy listening to rebel songs as I tinker as well
Can't make eggs without breaking a few omelets, as a wise man once said
Actually it was.... nevermind.
Better yet - Unbreaking
And a sure way to get laid is to crawl up a chickens ass and wait.
Anyone that works with their hands, absolutely needs an AVE sticker that says "It NEVER fkn ends!" 🤣
one crying laughing emoji was acceptable for this comment. two was way, way too far. please remove one.
@@thepjup4507 as you wish my liege! 🤣🤣 (😇)
@@vf19blue thanks.
@@thepjup4507 you're welcome
Finished a 5 week CNC machining course at the local community college. Trained on Haas controllers and made some darn fine coasters. Now doing the 15 week manual machining course. Your channel was one of the ones that let me know I should pursue this field of study. Curious to see how sharp you can get this using only the mill!
"that is the bigger chungus end" -- I've heard AvE use a Jim Sterling euphemism so now I've heard it all.
I’m not gunna lie I have no clue what he’s talking about half the time but damn he makes in enjoyable
HALF THE TIME??? Geez, I'd be hard pressed to go 1/2 of that 1/2 . Actually I'd not be tellin' the truthful truth for only a sliver/portion of that 1/2 of 1/2. Cool looking "Hot Damn" equipment there - of course you could do that same thing with a good file too.
The machine no go wanna cutamatize the rail chunk
Being British and having learned 'American English', Ave's 'canucistan' isn't too difficult to translate most of the time.
Canadian is a lot closer to British English than American English.
Loses me completely with anything CAD or CNC though
"There is nothing more important in the entire world then going out into the unknown and reporting what you found at the edge of the world" Now ain't that the truth
Looks to me like one of them Bronze age style axes that have to be tied down to a stick.
Some look really cool. Can't wait to see it finished
"Old Hardened Rail" - that's my current nickname.
After 15 minutes swinging the axe, Ave realised he wanted a chainsaw and headed inside to make one. He was never seen again.
Thanks AvE. You have put the tin hat on my ever buying a CNC machine, it looks dam hard to get the hang of it and if you can't master it then I certainly can't.
Ave can spout brilliant high and low brow humor so spontaneously, its nothing short of genius.
Never thought i’d hear AvE saying “chungus” but i gotta admit, it fits right into that wonderful vocabulary of his
Plus the british army song was a nice touch
He has been saying chungus for years.
I didn't understand any of that, but thoroughly enjoyed it, you could tell from the start that cutter was the dogs bollocks, I knew you were clever....but your clever beyond the point of messing around (which you do most of the time) and that machine OMFG some serious $$$$$ invested, good work
AvE with the Rebs on. Love it!!
You only need one work offset with a proper 5 axis machine running tilted planes and tool center point control. Kinematic compensation takes care of the rest 😏
Yep, the name checks out.
@@arduinoversusevil2025 I've commented a bunch of times over the years, usually they just get lost at sea. Made some recommendations on cutting this stuff on the previous video. I do like those high feed mills. Been using them for about 14 years. I pushed a 4 inch Sandvik 210 so hard on my machine at IMTS 2008, a Makino guy came over and begged me to stop because the vibration in the floor kept popping his 2mm ball mills 😉. Day job consists of working for a company that makes the machines that makes the machines that Gene puts out in the wild 👌
@@TheFeralEngineer you are a metametalmachisnist then ❤
@@NikoMoraKamu I teach people how to not lose fingers and die on machines Titan would boom himself over
@@TheFeralEngineer
I have absolutely no idea what you were talking about but the phrase “kinematic compensation” sounded so cool I gave you a thumbs up anyway.
Still one of my favorite TH-cam channels. I dont machine but im a industrial maintenance mechanic but i still learn shit from you always. It did take me awhile to learn your Canuckistany language cuz im a city boy from NJ
Linus (LTT) want's to give you a computer, but he can't get a hold of you.
You always know when you're close, everything just fights like hell trying to stop you.
I've been listening to "kinky boots" as well
You are supposed to take the maximum axial depth of cut with those tools, not a tiny little cut like you are. Then, according to the chart you showed, 75% radial depth of cut.
Also, the SFM determines your spindle speed, not your feed rate, so backing that off is only going to create a larger chip load and a heavier load on the tool.
Great to see I'm not the only one that works for hours and hours with knowledge and sheer determination for nothing. Makes me feel human.
Your one liners are the most on point
*Milling an 80% axe head*
It would be interesting to see this on a thermal camera to see how hot the tool and piece get (and cool down too). Thanks for sharing!
Not very. Tool and material stays cool, very little heat transfer to tool or material in high feed milling. The heat is transferred almost entirely into the chips. It’s one of the benefits to high feed milling when you have thermally unstable material or easily work hardened material.
I love the "Run away!" icon on the control display.
The tool path of that e-mill is frucking insane
High “Pucker factor” for sure.
Really glad I found you're channel ave you are one of the funniest but intellectual people on here.
Keep your old hardened rail in a vice
"I'm doing it not for no reason". never ending one-liners!
AvE, Linus at Linus Tech Tips was trying to get in touch with you about getting you a new computer.
Glad to see you are finally learning how to use that thing. Imo i never really understood solid carbide high feed mills, or maybe i was never in a situation where i couldnt make a high feed indexable mill work, at least for roughing. They still wear quickly enough that id rather be changing inserts than sending it out for sharpening.
What you need is a Marvel band saw with a hot rod blade to cut out the chunks you want to use, and not have to do all that mill work to get down to the start point. That rail material is some nasty tough stuff, especially the used stuff on the top surface. High feed mill is an excellent choice for this endeavor. I don't see why these high feed end mills are so damn expensive. Looks like once they get the geometry figured out, it's just the cost of the carbide blank + grinder time + markup. I know it's like a proprietary thing the company comes up with, and you are buying the idea and development as much as you are the physical tool. Looks like anyone with a 3D laser scanner, and a 7 axis grinder, could pretty much reverse engineer any cutting tool on the market. These will be on Banggood or Aliexpress before long. Those Chinese don't miss a beat.
No jokes here- really nice shots, camerawork, editing. Pops right off the screen at 450am.
I thought that was you peeping through the window at 11.50, had to double check.
I was looking at 11:02 for his reflection in the sunglasses. He'll show his lizard face one day.
@@connormahoney8555 he had a while ago. The video is no longer on the channel.
What a fresh impulse of language turned into art
I believe you have defined the very soul of AvE, it is as aesthetically pleasing to the ears as it is mellifluous to the eyes...
... And, sometimes I have a hard time keeping up😅
EDIT - spelling
Working deep into the night! Been there before. Personal record was 37hrs straight to get shit figured out & fixed. Hard deadline with no option for it not to be working. The worst part is the next day having to update all the documentation, BOMs, drawings, inspection procedures, etc.
As we say over here in krautland ...von hinten durch die Brust ins Auge. 🙄 (from behind through the chest into the eye)
...don't ask.
Ahhhh aber ich wollte so gerne fragen!!
Yeah, I don't get what that's meant to imply, but my HS German study ensures a reasonably accurate pronunciation. And it sounds awesome 👍
@@PassifloraCerulea It means that you're doing something the most complicated way possible, Rube Goldberg-like. Somehow a wacky murder is used as illustration, I don't know why, idioms are funny sometimes.
@@mirkomeyerhoff2700 Haha, awesome.
Sparks like a surface grinder, way too cool.
There's something so satisfying about firing up the old TH-cam and watching a guy play with his tool.
Have to say, I enjoyed the choice of music haha. You must have picked up some of the Irish culture when you were over here. Keep up the good work.
hahaha Glad I'm not the only hoser this side of Canada listening to Kinky Boots!
Nothing better that working with some classic Ra tunes in the background for some toe tapping
Rotation issue is a first pair / second pair selection issue. A 5 axis trunnion like yours can get to a position in two possible ways, either rotate A first than B (first pair) or rotate B first then A (second pair). I Don’t have F360 in front of me but in the 5 axis rotations menu there should be an option somewhere for selecting first pair or second pair rotations.
Never thought I'd see the drunken boxing technique translated into a cnc machine but buddy... you nailed.
That cutter is damn impressive I winced just about every time..
Have you been watching Buckin Billy Ray again.... 😊
He'll yeah. "Chipping ain't easy"
One of the few things I remember from shop class is bullnose bits are better the flats for material removal. Decades later, good to see that unused knowledge is true.
Never thought you could get hold of scrap rail. I am jealous.
Worn out Bridgeport, classical music, and some jokes in the shop. Life was simple then.
I think the tink and sharp edge of the after cut break off gave me chillamabumps goose divots.
You might be the only shop with a 5-axis Haas that is heated by a woodstove. From down in the states that seems pretty Canadian. I want to see you making Aerospace grade Spiles next.
I wanted a machine like this, I don't any more.
Damn bub you bought it at the right time! Maybe the Royal Bank can spot ya some extra!
always nice to see AvE start with a big reamer and his strap on in hand
Also short story / PSA
this video reminds me of that time I was younger and dumber trying too modify a hatchet into a viking axe. I'll try to save some of the details (but Im a carpenter and no machinest) my shop was basically a 6X10 closet)
But I thought I needed more speed trying to grind in the beard portion of the axe. So I swapped out the drill press mounted drum sander, and after lookingg through the tool chest I spotted my compact router and a light bulb when off. " yeah that will accept a 1/4 " shaft" I thought as I chucked it up. "Genius" I said to myself as I tighted up the collet.
Now the router was just a dewalt compact variable speed router. Small body lots of rpm ( up to 30k rpm). I could control the feed and pressure I told myself.
Turned it on and nearly died. Literally. Rpm were cranked right up after a quick test and almost immediately the shaft of the drum sander bent to about 75° and I had a flywheel of death in my hands. I had 2 hands around the body of the router barely being able to hang on as the vibrations from the drumsander acting acting as a fly wheel instanstantly blistered and tore and burned up my hands and stomach because I was jammimg it up to my body to try and stabaise it. I knew I couldnt let go, and let this thing bounce around the closest which would at the very least maim me if not worse but I was also losing my grip and my hands were burning really intensly after about 10 secs of trying to hold onto this thing which I can only describe as trying to hold onto the drive shaft of your car while its doing 100 km/h. My thumbs couldnt reach the off switch amd i had this plugged into a 12ft ext cord but i was finally able to get all the slack out of the cord wiht my feet by wrapping the cord around my lag and yank it from the outlet.
I've been and working around trades since about 9 years old, Ive helped build scaffolds 400' feet in the air, built bridges,operated countless tools and been on numerous outdoor adventures. Too this day I've never been as close to meeting our maker as that day or been more scared.
Aside from all the other value you provide, I just wanted to thank you for the insight and sharing your expierience with us AvE.. Especially the mistakes !
Not foolproof, but one way to catch crashes before they happen is to hit Position and go to the "Distance to go" tab. You can have that window open while the program is running
Dis to go save my ass plenty o times! CNC 25yrs!
I'm going to be a bit blunt. You've got a Lamborghini and you've swapped the engine for a 4 cylinder out of a Chevette. Ditch fusion and get a legit cad software. I've run a number of cad packages and I'll tell you that Solidworks is the way to go. Remember, you get what you pay for (including free advice).
AvE is the most Canadian shop channel I've ever seen
This is so OMG funny, watching as a red seal machinist here in Canuckistan
Another day, more good shtuf. I learn something every vijeo. Not sure what I’m learning, or if it’s helpful, but I’m learning something
I use a 17mm Kyocera MFH Raptor indexable mill for high feed. 1.5mm fz at 220m/min only cuts about .75mm deep per pass. Works out way cheaper than solid carbs.
You can get inserted high feed mills on Aliexpress cheap. A 18mm cutter body and 20 inserts with 4 edges each for $80. I just tried mine out last night. The thing cuts like a hot damn. Only thing crapy I saw were the insert screws I swaped them out for some Sandvik ones. Only thing is I have a Proto Trak and the max feed rate is only 100 imp.
all the work that went into this its now worth 10 thousand dollars
Looked like your cuts were faster than the travel moves. Love the video
My wife loves your take on life.
I never knew AvE had such excellent taste in music
You need to get a coding duck my friend!
You can get some Champlain bridge steel from the old bridge that is being taken down in Quebec, it would be interesting to see some projects with that.
Ave and the CNC getting railed, a pleasure to watch!
AvE You were brought up on the Linus Tech Tips WAN Show today and Linus was talking that he had tried to find a way to get ahold of you to do a collaboration but was unable to figure out how to get ahold of you. As someone who watches all your videos as well as LTT videos I'm sure there would be a great opportunity.
Holy crap you've got a lot of stuff bolted to that table. Impressive.
Hearing "Kinky Boots" and feeling like our Spotify playlists are terrifyingly similar