“George Galloway Is The FUTURE For This Country,” Rafe Heydel-Mankoo On Rochdale By-Election
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- Following George Galloway’s Rochdale controversial by-election win, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak used a Friday evening address to warn that democracy is being targeted by extremists.
Speaking at a lectern outside the doors of No 10 Downing Street, Mr Sunak warned of “forces here at home trying to tear us apart,” in the aftermath of the October 7 attacks by Hamas against Israel.
Sunak also said the Workers Party of Britain leader’s victory in the by-election was “beyond alarming”.
On the other side, Labour has apologised to the voters of Rochdale for not fielding a candidate after Mr Galloway’s triumph.
Sir Keir Starmer’s party warned Mr Galloway will stoke “fear and division” and said he “only won because Labour did not stand” after it dropped its candidate Azhar Ali for suggesting Israel was complicit in Hamas’ October 7 attack.
Mr Galloway, one of Britain’s most divisive politicians, swept to victory in the greater Manchester seat, gaining almost 40% of the vote in a contest mired in chaos and controversy and dominated by the Gaza conflict.
The former Labour and Respect MP took aim at the Labour leader in his victory speech focused on Palestine.
Mr Galloway said: “Keir Starmer, this is for Gaza. You have paid, and you will pay, a high price for the role that you have played in enabling, encouraging and covering for the catastrophe presently going on in occupied Palestine in the Gaza Strip.”
TalkTV’s Peter Cardwell is joined by the New Culture Forum’s Rafe Heydel-Mankoo and social policy analyst Dr. Rakib Ehsan, to break down the controversial by-election victory.
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He is a liar, the funny thing is, he knows that we know he’s lying and yet still goes ahead with this hate speech against the British calling basically everyone far right, what a knob.
Bang on . Thought exactly the same as soon as he opened his mouth. Speech from a civil servant. That's where we're at.
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Shades of Trudeau and Biden! Seems like it’s a globalist policy. To protect their socialist-communist UN agenda, they need to denigrate ordinary, law-abiding, white people who love their own culture, history and customs, as ‘Far Right’!
Definition of far right: Anyone 1.2 nanometres to the right of Stalin and Trotsky.
This is a free democracy providing you only vote for those that agree with the establishment. They wish to remove democracy to preserve democracy, a sure sign of a dictatorship. They must think we're all idiots.
The irony of an unelected man claiming that our democracy is under threat 😂 Rishi couldn't even win a vote in his own party.
Genocide Sunak is calling Cease Fire Galloway an extremist.. WOW!
He never had to try any vote. He was a shoe in by a loyal handful.
Indeed!
@@nisahmed9121 a Muslim called Ahmed still claiming a genocide..WOW!
Why does calling for a cease fire make you correct. This is what happens in wars, if you attack a country bigger than you, you will be dealt with.
"Far Right" what bloody Far Right absolute deflection
What right wing?
The far right are a Joke and lets look at it this way far right extremast have not massicered loads kits at a pop concert ! run into a hall and stabed people to death and who killed Lee rigby ........ oh let me think thts right the were killed by Islamofashists
His party 😂.
Lol i was just saying that
Far right are usually working class -disillusioned with the status quo -but instead of getting organised and joining a union they turn on their fellow working class -whilst people like elitist multi millionaire- drunk on religion Rees Mogg have wet dreams.
he wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire-it’s never been culture war it’s always always class war, but as long as we keep swallowing bile printed in the non dom owner of the Mail who doesn’t pay tax (now that really is a true patriot) or Murdoch Sun- we’ll be always be racing to the bottom.
Working class turning on each other goes back to the Peasants Revolt in the 14th century.
Little Sunak must really hate democracy. What a vile weasel.
He really is vile isn't he. Unelected and unwanted he's a "caretaker" PM who will be gone at the first chance the English people get to vote him out, then back into his billionaire wife's business interests and to claim his "reward".
I say old chap, steady on! Aren't you being a little harsh on vile weasels? 🤔
WEF stooge.
His job is to subvert it at every opportunity.
Little Rishi Sunak
Right wing extremism ???? Talk about a smokescreen. Where are the bloody right wing extremists???? Get your head out of your arse Sunak and speak up for the MAJORITY of the people in Britain instead of still walking on eggshells about Islam and Islamafacism.
I am an Islamophobe. Just as I am a Communistphobe, Facistphobe, etc.
Exactly. All I see are Islamists advocating genocide and spouting antisemitism.
Well said.
he,ll never talk against his " brothers " cause we all know who put him there and why ! Votes will not change this folks, going to need alot more than that now !
Literally one has just been sent down in Cardiff.. Don't kid yourself
Where the hell were you, little Sunak, when mobs were destroying our historical statutes and defecating on our war veterans' graves ??
Defecating on war graves? -probably a couple of drunks coming home from the pub having a piss.
“We’re all freezing, hungry and broke but at least we get to guard statues of rich twats that exploited our ancestors-who worked like slaves in the cotton mills, down the coal mines and in agriculture”.
We should erect a statue of Jimmy Sa--vile-would you be bothered about that being defaced?
No we all lost some over generation,think about .millions of Hindu and Muslim die too,it the service to this country and many other from the so called commonwealth, if you can not understand why folk see the slaughter in Gaza which has gone beyond taking out Hamas ,which the Israeli government funded and armed for twenty years, the poor you,
Little sunak LoL,,it's a culture thing LoL...
Exactly...
A point well made. Rishi sounds like he’s working on a school project. Completely divorced from reality.
If Sunak cannot tell the difference between’Far Right’ and what’s actually happening on our streets, ie by the Far Left, then he shouldn’t be in politics!
That's the trouble,Sunak doesn't know how to put fuel in a car,or what price milk is,what is he doing in the PM role???
Nobody did or would have voted for him. He is an unelected PM and will lose badly later this year. Then he will leave politics and claim his reward for selling us out to his small hat masters.
Sowell said it's difficult to admit the truth when your living depends on denying it.
He dosen't want to put any blame on Islam
Far left on our streets - do you mean those who are against the massacre? This is not a religious conflict - it is about a disproportionate response to an atrocity by Hamas that has resulted in 14,000 children being blown apart by weapons supplied by the US and the UK. If you’re okay with the way things are going, and don’t think it’s worth making your voice heard, then you may not be called an Islamic left-wing extremist terrorist sympathiser… but I’m not sure it makes you a good person.
Far right are the people reacting to all this BS... far right arent singing for genocide or disrupting parliament. When will rishi grow a pair and admit we have a problem
By "far-right", he means anyone White and nationalist who wants Britain to remain in the hands and control of the native ethnic Britons.
How can he mention democracy, when he was only voted in by about 100 MPS
Because that’s how ours works. You vote for the party.
He wasn’t even voted in! After MPs voted for him, he lost the Members vote. He lost!!! Then miraculously he was helicoptered in - I would suspect by the unseen hand of the bankers and financial markets - his friends - and the people who really dictate the policies in this country!🤬
Should have been general election ,he's a goldman sachs boy ,our man on inside
@@richardspiller9582 they are all from that industry, or have ties to it. Money makes the world go round. We live a very good life here in the Uk compared with other countries. We should be making sure that continues instead of bringing in people who don’t like the country, don’t like us and are only here for the money. People have to be told no, it’s much easier for politicians to say yes. Someone might call them an ist or a phobe if they don’t do something. We are being played by these people.
A basic misunderstanding of our democratic system. He WAS voted in, by the voters in his constituency. The political parties decide how, and when they either appoint, or electing their leader. When you vote, you do NOT vote for a Prime Minister. In political terms it is very recent that Conservative Party members elect the leader, and therefore the Prime Minister, when they are in government.
Starmer is an enebler for the WEF
And islam.
Islamic Development Bank WEF, follow the money.
Unity is strength, NOT diversity!
The original - accurate phrase; "Diversity is quite Interesting but not inherently any kind of Strength" fell by the wayside due to being a little unwieldy.
Why do these weird politicians always talk about the so-called Far Right. What Far Right I ain't seen any
Pro britain people are called far right because we stand for our country our culture our heritage our religion.
@@martindelport8289What heritage have you got-reading shite in the Murdoch Sun
@@adriftinaboat3452that’s a newspaper. Don’t you know the difference ?
I'M BRITISH
I'M WHITE
I'M NOT FAR RIGHT.
I AM A BRITISH PATRIOT WHO LOVES OUR COUNTRY, HISTORY & CULTURE!
In common parlance that means you are 'far right'. Until the indigenous population are wiped out or invert to Islam that's what the trajectory is. That's why they have to silence you every step of the way as the funeral pyre burns. 600,000 immigrants just in the last year - the vast majority being Muslim. The next General Election will see Muslims gain dozens and dozens of Parliamentary seats. All of them will be Islamists.
I am too but things need to change British ppl should stand together
Your far right if you disagree with anything foreign people say in this country , it’s our country , England , leave if you don’t like it , we shouldn’t be changing anything to suit foreign needs ? No other country does and we are unique. It’s ISLAMOFASCISM and it’s needs to be stopped and left push it under the disguise of morals
25 years of damage
@@rach1459
Exactly Rach.
You, me, we, they, every Pro British Person - must vote tactically for Pro British councillors, politicians etc.
That immediately rules out Lib, Lab, Con, snp, the Welsh thing.
The elephant in the room is that there isn't really, sadly, a truly pro British party in the UK.
Reform is bandied about as are Heritage etc
Firstly all such minded parties simply MUST amalgamate.
As far as Reform goes I am afraid Tice doesn't do it for me - far too pro establishment, pro medical procedures, pro Ukulele - if you get my drift!
There is only one politician, one champion of the British people - (he isn't perfect by any means).
But he is the best hope pro Brits have!
He could/can unify the different like minded factions, he can lead (Proven),
Enter stage right - Nigel Farage!
I never knew that telling the truth was defined as “far right”.
Yet they just sacked Lee for trying to say the same thing....
Lee got sacked for lying
@@Altashheth08 what lie?
@@Altashheth08 He got sacked for lying, what he should have said, which is true, is that both our main political parties, just as they are the the US are totally controlled by Zionists, that should be obvious to anyone paying even the slightest attention.
@@in-x-orable2769the one that caused the inevitable pendulum swing and backlash like all lies sooner or later do.
@@Altashheth08he spoke nothing but the truth!
What "far right groups" exactly are you talking about Sunak - care to describe exactly what policies they have and exactly WHICH GROUPS are you accusing of being "far right"?
By "far-right", he means anyone White and nationalist who wants Britain to remain in the hands and control of the native ethnic Britons.
anyone who doesn’t follow the fake liberal agenda is now far right !!!
I don't think far-right is about white. That is crazy talk. He didn't even mention white.
Those postal votes and death threats to other candidates need to be investigated
🎉. You believe this nonsense? How gullible are you? Go hide under your bed
Shurrup it was Fair & Square he won
for what?
@@LayLoowfair and square my arse, what planet are you on? Or are you one of the brownies that voted for him?
@Ardwick-CromeJones is not looking well at all.
Rishi in his speech keeps saying 'our' 'our history' etc, he is a first generation Indian immigrant, he has NO ancestral history in this country!
Correct..and it shows BIG TIME
Just like these two guests.
but galloway has brit ancestral history and he is in the forefront giving away brit to musies.
FAR RIGHT!!!!
We would have a lot less protests if there was a far right, doing the polices job for them.
I'm not Muslim I'm not an Islamic, but surely if Sunak condemned Israel and an immediate call for a ceasefire ,stopping the genocide in Gaza,would be alot more productive for everyone in Britain.
what do you mean productive for people in Britain?
Rafe is always a voice of reason, but he is absolutely even more bang on the money here. Bravo Rafe.
🎉 Nah he’s not. He can pretend as much as wants to be British but he’s not. He needs to take the stupid ties and Bogg off back to wherever he’s from
I agree. I also thought Dr Ehsan spoke a lot of sense too.
He needs to be deported.
Totally agree.
@@equityjustice2695are you listening to a word he is saying? 🤔
He did it on back of what macron did in france ... removing someone from their country within 12 days... who was unhappy about the french flag... washi Rishi is weak politician
12 hours, not 12 days!
I hate the union Jack. Are you going to deport me? Please do. Unfortunately I was born here 60 years ago as was my family for generations, so I'd like to go to Australia at your expense please.
@chantelle He 's in charge of the English , doesn't need to be strong .
Proves again that the whole Uk government has no backbone for the British , just the islamofascism trying to change our country and identity via this disguised as morals , fascism disguised as morals ,the end trajectory is a country that isn’t England ? That is the truth
@@Leigh-ry3yb it wasn't just the flag it was his disgust at French life..
well said Rafe
Britain has been sleep walking in to its own demise for decades
Rafe is so correct. All empty words from empty heads.
Rafe is spot on ..
Thats because he's A Sikh ! he has class.
@@philiprufus4427he’s not Sikh but he is 100%
@@philiprufus4427he’s a coconut and sell out, his whole religion formed from the Muslims that’s the irony of it all. 😂
His father is sikh and mother is polish@@joycegibbs5267
@@joycegibbs5267 He is Sikh. You're absolutely wrong. He's said he's Sikh on air when debating Narinder Kaur (also Sikh), he's just not strictly practising.
I love Rafe always talks sense.
He’s part of the problem. He’s a foreigner. Deport. No exceptions 🎉
He still has to be deported. He’s not British no matter how hard he pretends
By "far-right", he means anyone White and nationalist who wants Britain to remain in the hands and control of the native ethnic Britons.
I just want it in the hands of sane, reality based people of which we have none !!
No, he's not talking about white. There's other far-right groups out there.
Are far right the ones invaded Iraq
Thank you for having Dr. Rajiv Ehsani and Rafe Heydel Mankoo’s as guest, they are spot on.
They are both foreigners. Deportation for the pair of them. No exceptions
The fat guy should be deported. No exceptions
Tory Immigration Figues for 2022/2023 1.4 MILLION.
How do they know that number when they never add those who have got in here legally & illegally up? More like 7.5 million
Rafe talks the Truth❤
Yeah he just said the English are the problem everywhere, they get into 'enclaves' and don't have any friends. Seems legit to me, they start wars with everyone they've ever come across. Literally you can't find a people they haven't taken issue with. Utterly neurotic
He has to be deported as well. No exceptions. That’s the truth 🎉
Two men who speak from an intelligent point of view and who are respectful of each other excellent piece of work.
Why am I deemed right wing for just not wanting islamic Sharia ?
Sharia is far right in every way
@@anglodoomer5995as are those that go on these marches every week but they’re known as Marxists
those who do that are just stupid. problem with democracy is that people who don't care for the country get into power.
Rafe knocks it out of the park. He's getting better and better at articuating this stuff
he’s brilliant isn’t he ?
He was always brilliant. He doesn't get better any more than a fine wine gets better.
Rave needs to be deported. No exceptions
He has to be deported. No exceptions
No you must not allow that to happen but you should have addressed this a few years ago and you still continue to import them into the country at our expense financially and safetywise. Don't preach to those of us who saw this coming years ago, convincing yourself that you are going to save us all.. Too late mate.
Immigration can be explained by a pizza shared. When you add 1 or 2 more people, the slices of pizza are smaller but the new spices make it worth it. But now there's barely any pizza left and the new spices are disgusting.
Yeah alright Einstein. Deeldoe
Agreed have you seen the state of Muslim areas there always scruffy....always.
projecting much 😂😂
Be grateful you getting to eat pizza and many other foods from around the world otherwise you'd only have fish n chips every week to eat!😂
I take it you've never had bubble, delicious!!!
right wing politics is conspicuous by its absence from UK politics
well, they get the whip taken away or removed from their job 🤦🏼♀️. Although it’s not right wing, it’s right so far ?
I don't want a 'multi'culti' society, I want OUR country back.
Too late
Well unless your Welsh buddy your probably a roman coloniser. Scots and Welsh people where in uk before they got ousted out so do u want to give your land back to the natives of uk 🤡
Spilt milk and all that. Welcome to a brand new Britain 🎉
cry harder racist
100% modern Britain is barely worth having.
Sunak has the same delivery style as Blair, and probably just as genuine a man.
Blair is a war criminal...
Right wing extremism? Eh, ever heard of far left extremism Rishi, that's what Galloway is, but I suppose he has to suck up to his lefty audience.
Far left extremism barely exists today.
@@pallascat1743
Jso, hate not Hope, just to mention a few far left agitators/disruptors.
@@pallascat1743 😂😂😂😂😂Sarcasm, you can’t beat it.
@@pallascat1743😂😂😂
@DD-zd9lw That's two and they are not extremists. The UK never really saw any far left groups. They existed more in Europe.
The words 'far right' refer to the indigenous Brits who don't hate their country. It's not complicated.
We are so lucky to have this fantastic belief in our country. I wake up everyday and feel so lucky all our public services are up the sh*tter and we are taxed to the hilt. Stop being ungrateful people of Britain. 🙄
What far right group????
Well said Rafe as usual.
The fat imposter has to be deported. No exceptions
They suddenly don't like democracy, when their person is not elected.
Will be interested to see if George is treated equally in the house or if the existing members will show their true colours. We're all watching 🍿
Let's see what this Muslim apologist does about the grooming gangs in Rochdale........my bet is, nothing.
george galloway will do nothing and rochdale is a nothing burger of a town, he wont even make a tiny dent in this system. he will throw a few half decent speeches around in parliament but nothing will change, its a red herring.
@@iain2279 the gangs should have been cleared out YEARS ago. Please don't tell me it's George's fault, for the previous MPs party failures. 🤯 Where was your criticism back then?
Being irish the presenter should be the last person who doesnt understand sectarianism imo.
He does understand it.
Cardwell is a pillock.
The government needs to get the army and police to push back on these marches and illegal immigrants or we'll be under sharia law with no monarchy - look at what happened in Persia/Iran.
Good point ... it appears on the face of it that the Royal family support UK muslims and Islam but Islam is probably the biggest threat to their eventual demise.
If there is truth in the accusations of threats to force & threaten people to vote for George, cheating with bogus ballots & the other illegal actions to win that seat, then it should be an illegitimate win.
Rafe Heydel-Mankoo like Douglas Murray shows a level of intelligence which is completely lacking from the likes of Sunak and Starmer.
Totally agree two great minds. we have a bunch of morons running the country.
Murray intelligent that's an oxymoron. He's an unpleasant far right extremist of the worst kind. If I were you I'd go away and discover how currency is created, observe the ponzi scheme con and then discover who is behind it. All our effeminate friend is protecting is your slavery.
You are a tool, for believing those two have any intelligence 😩
murray has no level of intelligence!!!
@normankennith7919 Just because he differs with your viewpoint 😅
The British people need to stand up and take Britain 🇬🇧 back now we can't wait for the spineless government and police
Back from who ??
Britain ain't coming back, get over it and live in peace with your neighbours
maybe you have a spineless gov because your country is spineless. it's happened with most western democracies.
@@highvolumepls no thanks
Well said Rafe and Rakib speaking up for the democracy and the majority of the people of Britain thank you 🇬🇧🏴
Squeaky bum cheek time in the Commons when George speaks there.
I strongly condemn the violence and hatred displayed towards Hindus by a small group of individuals. Such actions are unacceptable and go against the values of peace and understanding.
That poison is you sunak
Let’s be completely honest any politician who can stand up and state that climate catastrophe is scientific fact cannot be trusted on anything else they may utter!
I would disagree with that! The denial of anthropogenic global warming is a science in itself! We have extreme flooding across the board and record temperature's are recorded across the globe, particularly in the arctic regions!
@@simonford9725 These records that you refer to……when we’re they first recorded?🤐
Just read his involvement with Moderna and the money he and his family have made from other peoples suffering . It’s shockjng.
Galloway has opened the door to localism. We all know that MP s are powerless and trot out the party line crap but a local independent candidate in hundreds of seats could coalesce into a force for good ...for the people. Concentrating on the area only.
I’ve a lot of time for Galloway but he’s a player also & can’t be trusted. He will bring some reality into parliament though but not when it comes to Gaza 😢
@@joycegibbs5267 galloway will make brit muslim....good luck!
He is a very weak Prime Minister. Did he mention which type of extremism was causing the problems the UK is experiencing? I didn't hear the entire speech.
If they all stood for typical British attitude n fair play, then the bad ones would be a minority cowed n kept in place. But it's not a minority is it. Their way of life and attitude as a whole is not to assimilate but to replace.
So why the hell are you letting them into the UK en masse?
There is no far right in UK. Maybe there should be.
Is this what Klaus told him to say? Don't believe he has changed course.
Who are these 'far right extremists' you speak of oh unelected one, his speeches are generally extremely ordinary, this speech was extra ordinary.
Vote Reform UK
all talk no action
He will be hand in hand with Sad I Q Khan. UK R.I.P. 😔
Sunak basically described the guardian and the BBC as far right. They are chipping away at this society
Well said Rafe
Well said Rafe.
Calling the indigenous far right to take the blame off them for bringing them into the country hypocrite
Let's face the truth ( we now have a HAMAS leader ) or the Ayatollah of Rochdale, living amongst us ( I say give him a good search before allowing him in the commons)
Conservatives and Labour are frightened going into an election because people are fed up of them. Surely democracy is having the right to vote for whoever you choose
Two people worth listening to
Only one: Rafe Mankoo.
Rafe is a legend ,he and Douglas Murray are what the English think
they are masters. If only they were in politics, (although Ben Habib is a bit of a titan) !!
Rishi Sunak should have never taken that job he was always set up to fail.
The only thing that you should remember about Rishi Sunak is that, he was not an "elected" prime minister but a "selected" prime minister.
4:32 The bar is spectacularly low in this area.
The Blair infestation is already self-sustaining with the majority of troops in place and their families set to follow.
I know it's minimum... But I think it's nice that even in this peepoor time, that we can still hear the birds singing.
The waning influence of corporations and oligarchs in the UK and America signals their decline across politics and media. Their loss of control signifies impending financial collapse. Diminished power reflects systemic instability, hinting at looming economic turmoil. The erosion of their dominance foreshadows broader societal upheaval and economic downturn.
Rafe always spot on.
Reform UK members in CRochdale recieved death threats while trying to campaign, did the labour and conservatives also recieve the same! ❓
Only one group to be legitimately afraid of in this country Sunak !
What is this 'Far Right' they keep going on about? When was the last time you saw a far right protest in the Uk, 1920?
He also talked about the grooming gangs and lack of action, to be totally fair.
Some people are on benefits and have been for years reporting they can't speak English. And we bring thousands in for a work shortage. Working will intergrate them as they will have to adhere to policies and procedures and in some employment the law.
I did like George until quite recently, Islamists have him in there pockets though, he dosent offer anything for the long abandoned majority working class, very disappointing.
Great debate all parties paid attention to what the other was saying and oaid respect for them to finish their point they were expressing 😊😊
George finally found his niche to get into politiccs again through Gaza.
at least they stick together !!
george galloway will do nothing and rochdale is a nothing burger of a town, he wont even make a tiny dent in this system. he will throw a few half decent speeches around in parliament but nothing will change, its a red herring.
It was always thus. The guy is a race grifter, goes to where he can win the Islamic vote and plays on that.
George converted to Islam years ago - the takeover is real 😢
Yup.
He looks like a guy from 1930 Germany, but he is Muslim
@@hannacook859 and?
It’s only real if we allow it. We need to stand against it.
He never converted to Islam, that's for sure
I don't think he did.
The establishment are very worried, good...
Segregation. Does he mean North London the Jewish quarter. Where the orthodox Jews have their own police, their own ambulance and hospital service, their own schools etc
One thing Galloway got right yesterday was his assessment of Rishi Sunak character, totally spineless throwing in the boogieman of far right with Islamist instead of addressing the danger of Marxist extremism.
thank you. Could not agree with you more 👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
Marxist extremism comes from the left, DEI being a prime example. Let's see what he does about islamic extremism. My bet is, nothing.
Well the British people have been saying for years that letting people in would do this and now its to late 😞
We don't doubt ourselves, we doubt you Sunak. As if you did not know this.
George Galloway is a Brexiter, he's not in favour of mass immigration or anything woke and he's defo very against any Islamist extremists, he always speaks against them. He's very socially conservative.
Gallaway is a sad case just look at big brother and see how sick he is, how can you respect a person like this.
So what will Sunak do about it....absolutely nothing as usual.
The GMP accuse and imprison homeless people while the most expensive local hotel is booked full of people from Afghanistan.
Rafe is on point as usual.
Rakib doesn't even know that there is no place called PALESTINE. What a pillock.
That was quite refreshing actually. It's nice to hear that the conversation is actually being had. Shame that he cut off Rafe a couple of times, but still.
'This was a conversation for 2004, no 2024' isn’t that the depressing truth