Agreed. It was a bitter sweet day to get rid of mine, but I find a TC sub and up pedal gets me kinda close, without the headache. Close, but not the same.
@@kennethc2466 Sound very much like a POG or similar pedal on a standard electric so I could see how you could get close enough for most parts in a mix.
Speaking of “soaked in effects”, my favorite 12 string sound is British Indie Shoegaze / Dreampop band, LUSH. Miki Berenyi’s Epiphone 12 string rhythm chords plus classic Boss pedals equals very happy days indeed! 😃👍
For years - whenever my uncle would let me get his 1965 360-12, which he'd had from new, out to play - it was a toss up between 'Eight Miles High', 'Ticket To Ride' and 'Needles and Pins'. Didn't see him for years then in 2011 I saw him at my aunt's funeral... 'Have you still got the Ricky?' 'Actually, no I sold it to a mate last week for £600'. There was almost a second funeral that day (he'd always told me I'd have first dibs after using it on some of my best recordings in Eden, Konk, Chapel etc). I've never gotten over it.
I’m lucky to be old enough to have a 66 Fender Electric X11 and 69 Villager acoustic with same hockey stick headstock from way before prices got silly, but also have the excellent Dano and one that never crops up in these videos, a noughties Fender Japan Strat X11 (very pretty, metallic blue, matching stock), neck comfy as a regular Strat, regular Strat sounds, why did they never do this earlier?? Shares the fully 12-way adjustable Gotoh bridge as the Dano, a great improvement on the clunky but useable original bridge. Essential feature for vaguely adventurous chords. Most of these videos get so stuck in the Byrds/Petty clichés (thanks Mick for being disallowed). I’d urge anyone interested to listen to Pat Metheny and Ralph Towner to hear how outside the cliché box you can go. For instance tuning lower 4 pairs in 5ths (so B over low E etc) and see what regular chord shapes work - barred major and minor 7th shapes can spring surprises with major 7ths or 9ths popping out. Or play patterns of harmonics. Or slide. Swelled echo. You’ll stumble on nice things you never imagined. Finally, the stringing arrangement unique to Rickenbackers (overpriced and overrated in my Lackorickenbacker world) may owe its origins to the Greek Bouzouki - another one for you to try, tuned same as top 4 strings of guitar but a tone lower. As a bassist primarily, obvs I like an 8-string bass too. It’s all double the fun. Rick Biddulph
With the greatest respect from an amateur to a professional perspective here, surely a six string played through a valve amp clean channel via a Pog wouldn't be far away from this ?Recently brought a Rickenbacker 360/12 V64 for my semi retirement....sounds fab, wanted one since seeing Harrison play it live in 65, its really tough to play with a nut width 41mm ish....sounds amazing especially on open chords even in my hands. Respect to you for bringing this 12 string episode to the Pedal Show.
I needed an electric 12-string for project over 20 years ago. The only affordable option was a Pacifica 12 which turned out to be a great guitar. A couple of years ago I was lucky enough to get one of the Alternate Reality Fender XIIs a few years ago. Apart from changing the 3-way for a four way rotary it is stock. I got my first 12-string acoustic at 17 (39 years years ago) and would never be without either.
Nice. That is a beauty. Ibanez Artcore guitars are great. I have seen close-up pictures of that guitar, and I agree the string spacing at the nut leaves much room for improvement. The one thing you could do to greatly increase your enjoyment of the guitar would be to have a new nut made with optimized string placement. I have alot of experience with that. I use Xcel to tabulate the spacings and Visio to draw the string locations, to give me a template. I could even help you with that if you are interested.
I wanted a 12-string ever since I discovered The Smiths as a teenager. Then some years ago I was on Denmark Street with about an hour to kill while I waited for a bass I'd taken in for repairs to be finished. Logn story short, I went home with my bass... and an Italia Rimini 12-string. No regrets!
Ah man, somebody had a Rimini double neck for sale. Had it not been north of Bristol, I’d have totally gone for it. (Don’t go north of Bristol - nosebleeds and monsters. )
Sounds Great , congrats! I got myself a Reverend Airwave 12 string , its such a great guitar stays in tune, slightly shorter scale, independent saddles for each string so you can intonate it, locking tuners, wider neck and very easy to play for a 12 string. Very stable instrument. I highly Recommend it if you are looking for a 12.
If you haven't tried a Revered Airwave 12string, then please do before you settle for anything else. I honestly think they are the best 12 out there - not just best for the price - just flat out the best.
@@41DegreesSouth it sure is great value. The revered airwave is roughly 1500-1700 euros for me and I do own a couple of guitars above 2000 euros but they are all six strings and I would rather invest the money in something that I use more often than once or twice a month for some recordings. That being said I heard nothing but good things about the guitar. I'm just not playing 12-strings that often to justify the purchase. Also my wife...you know how it is man. 😆
12 string electric is the most beautiful sound of all time. Have been playing electric 12 for my entire career. Best part - knowing when to use it and when not to.
I have a Rick Tuner 12 string made of redwood. He was a guitar tec for the Dead. I don’t think it gets better than this 12 string made by Rick. He passed away a few months ago. I have a left handed model. The model that replaced it, is over 20,000. He made right handed model’s. Very interesting man. Check him out. Worth the time it takes you to find out more.⚡️🎸⚡️
Brilliant! The Artcore stuff is really, really nice, and I'll echo the sentiment that 40 years ago one couldn't get half the guitar (or bass!!!) for anywhere near that money. Bravo!
Interestingly, I just came back here again after watching the 2022 'Summing Up' episode, and when I got down to the 'Closing Thinkings' portion of the vid, you made mention that, after all that investment in high-quality and vintage guitars, you found yourself enjoying the sound of the budget-conscious 12 String. In that 'Summing Up' vid, you mentioned how much looser and more flexible you were feeling with your new guitars, and how much they were helping you to go with the flow of things (my words), not getting hung up on the machine so much as it seems you are putting your best into the guitar, and the guitars seem to be responding by giving you some great sounds in return. Just thought that was interesting. Hope you are having a lovely Holiday, thanks for everything.
Great buy Mick and nice chops as usual. Like most of the time, when it says "made in Japan" it's a guaranty for good quality. And, hey, they did it again. I expect to see you play this guitar more often during the show. To my ears, this guitar is a steal for that price.
I bought one because my Artcore full-hollowbody 6-string AF75 is gorgeous, and it sounds and plays SO very well. But yes, I have to use a bass gig bag for the 12.
Thanks Mick. I got a lot out of that. I've never played one & I didn't know that the top B & E are different to the others. Great to hear an affordable guitar sounding that good. Cheers.
Can you just imagine how thin a string you'd have to use to tune the top E an octave higher? I'm pretty sure that's the only reason the top two pairs are tuned in unison instead of octave.
Back when I worked at the guitar shop they’d always say “You spend half your time tuning and half your time outta tune”, lol. Fortunately the modern day 12’s seem to hold tuning fairly well (massive generalization). They’re super cool for layering in tracks too and the last Danelectro 12 I really liked I let get away from me. Congrats on the beautiful guitar, can’t wait to hear more!!! All my love brother!!!
Not true. I have a 12-string ac. electric, a lefty one, even, and I don't have any issues at all keeping it in tune, or dealing with it. If it's set up right, it shouldn't be that difficult to tune. If you keep screwing with it doing alt. tunings or whatever, it might be.
A good video. I love your approach to action, none of that inches mm gauge nonsense, ha ha. I like a lot of Paul Kantner's stuff in Jefferson Airplane.
Oh man, I love it! I have 2 Ibanez Artcore semi-hollows, and I really love them. I also have an old Eko 12 string that is just magical. Super cool guitar!
Hey Mick! For years I have been watching and hearing you talk about the Vintera Strats. And for years I have been saying that I am not a Strat guy. I have own 6 or more over the years and they aren’t my voice. Picked up a Road Worn Vintera 50’s Strat a few weeks ago on a “well maybe one more time.” It sits next to my bed. I play it all the time. Can’t get enough of it. Love it. Thanks so much for what you guys do!
Thought I’d restring my Yamaha Pacifica 303-12 while I watched this fabulous video. Just about got it done by the end of the bud. Nice one Mick, love the guitar.
Always great to hang out. Woke up stressed at 4:00 am Seattle time and was saved by your relaxing peaceful video to find some serenity. So grateful it was there for me (and everyone really) Cheers
I have an Aria Pro acoustic from the 90s my Ma bought me for Christmas back then. I have trouble singing with it because its tough to dig in to the bottom end for rythym guitar. I think 12 strings work better with arpeggios and partial chords anyway, but I always wonder if having the bass string first, like on a Rickenbacker, would make a difference. That just sounds right.
I first played 12 string guitars in the late 60's and early 70's and remember the larger E A D G strings being above the high octave strings as you look down while playing the guitar, meaning your pick contacts the low octave before the higher octave string on a down stroke. Every video I see now has the the higher octave string above the lower octave string and therefore usually picked before the lower octave string. Does anyone remember 12 string guitars strung the way I remember and can shed any light on when that configuration changed or were the guitars I got to play just constantly done wrong? I didn't own a 12 string back then so I was not responsible for the way the strings were installed. Any links to 60's and 70's videos of 12 string guitarists such as Beatles, Byrds, Richie Havens etc which illustrate the string layout would be greatly appreciated.
Hearing a Crossroads riff on TPS wouldn’t normally surprise me but not that one! I think that’s what I heard, I need other middle aged Brits (such as Benny or Miss Diane) to confirm…
Yes, in the electric 12 strings world, the cheapest is the best. I bought mine used one 300€, so happy with it, easy to play, easy to change strings, always perfectly in tune thanks to the 12 saddle bridge that Rickenbacker and Grtesch laked so much.
06:15 I bought a Squier Jaguar Short Scale Bass for about $500 Australian Dollars a while back. Made in Indonesia. VERY surprised at the quality & playability. Replaced pickups with Bartolinis and it rocks. Yes, folks need to keep an eye out for good quality for price gear. There's plenty about!
I have two twelves - a Dano 59X12 and a recently purchased Squier Jazzmaster. I love them both. I'll be keeping one of them in open tuning which sounds amazing.
Love the production quality of TPS videos! From the content themes, video & audio to consistency of information provided in the description. I'd imagine it's a lot of work. I appreciate it :)
Inspired by the Beatles and Byrds, I bought a Rickenbacker 360/12 in 1966. A really great guitar and even sitting in its case for years stays “in tune” and plays like a dream. It has that classic sound.
@8:00 you were playing close enough to "The Breakup Song", by Greg Kihn Band that I now will forever be in search for a song that doesn't exist, but should. They don't write like that anymore. Fantastic.
Good on you Mick !! 🎼🎸🎶 I fell ib love with the 12 string after 1st listen of 'New Chautauqua' . 2 yrs later, bought a Guild F-512. I've yet to buy a 12 Electric. Thinking it's about time 😀😉 may you and Dan continue to do what you do. And look forward to shows centering around 12 string guitars. Hint. Hint.
Mick ,you are a top dude, man. The fact that you get excited by the inspiration an electric 12 string ,brings to you, is bleedin' fantastic. look at the world with a childs eyes, all the best.
Congrats! 12s are wonderful! I have a Guild 12 I tune to C. For electric I use an EHX Intelligent Harmony Machine to add an octave down, and fruzz it up with a Fulltone Fulldrive 2V2 and a Wamplet Belle into my '64 Vibroverb and Luckhurst Princeton homage. Epic!
I agree about low-mid priced instruments. I recently went Bass shopping, and purchased a gorgeous Sterling Stingray SS-4 in Olympic White. It played great from the get-go.I did a little fret-edge filing and it just as comfortable as my Suhr or Taylor. Price $549 + tax in NYC. Good Luck with your new guitar Mick.
I read that the wood they use for this neck is not sturdy or a good hardwood, so I’m guessing these guitars will not holdup to the extra tension on the neck. I don’t know what Ibanez was thinking.
You can't even mention Hotel and California in the same video without getting demonetized. 🥴 What a treat, Mick!! You are such an inspiration on so many levels!! God bless you!! 🙏
Aw man… loved this episode. I will probably watch again some other time. Every time you enter Mr. Bramhall II zone… its a win. Great work!!!! Plz: record the gig… cheers
Mick, your vlogs have become my favourite TPS episodes. I'm always excited for the regular episodes, and VCQs, but I'm pumped when I see a vlog posted. I like the focus and more personal journey the vlog format allows. That Ibanez was a great score. It sounds, and more importantly, looks awesome! ;-) Great episode. Cheers.
Great VLOG! As someone who has returned to electric guitar after a 20 year break I can concur that both solid state combo amps and mid range guitars have come a HUGE long way since the 2000s. I have two Ibanez guitars (great to see them getting some TPS love) 20 years apart of a similar price bracket and the difference is astounding, and the new Orange 35RT just destroys my old Marshall 80RCD from the 2000s in every single way except perhaps volume, but even then it's much closer than the wattage would suggest. Great vid!
Welcome to the club! That sounds and looks amazing. I'm lucky to own a Ric 12 and it's getting a lot of play of late. A bit of tape style flange and some analog delay is working for me at the moment. I use flatwound strings (McGuinn/Townshend) and compression. I keep it clean too but I have to say your drive tones sounded great. Check out David Crosby solo and CSN&Y. Lots of electric 12. Beautiful big jazzy minor 7's. Roger wouldn't let him play 12 in the Byrds! Can't wait to hear more. Chime on.
Sounds KILLER! D Standard with Vibe, has a GREAT sound? ANYTIME you dissect Dolye type sounds…count me in! Love what he does, and sometimes it is hard to get the Tone happening? Of Course, what he’s playing is probably the biggest piece, but his sounds are magic! Great work Mick.
Was at a similar point some months ago: wanted a 12 string acoustic but did not want to spend the money I've spent on the 6 string Martin and Santa Cruzes. I went for a 1975 Ibanez 12 String "Vintage" dreadnought (Made in Japan) from eBay for below 200 Euros. Shameless Martin copies at that time - bought it unseen and it was shipped in a wonky box. I was absolutely blown away about the sonic quality, loudness and playability of this 47 years old rosewood/sitka thing. Of course, the tuning pegs are not of today's Waverly/Schaller/Grover/Gotoh/... quality but it keeps the tuning surprisingly well. No risk, no fun.
Awesome Vlog Mick! Sounds killer, very impressed with your free flowing playing out of the gate. Takes me huge amounts of time to even be able to pick correctly every time I try a 12, the string distances throw me off completely. Enjoy it, and the rehearsals and gigs it will be part of!
When you started to talk about the "one 12 string performance" my mind went straight to Jimi Hendrix. His "Hear My Train A Coming" on that 12 string is *P H E N O M E N A L* !
Fun show. Thanks Mick. My main guitar is an '00s AS73 six string. Love it. A tone I really dig with it is Rangemaster > Harmonious Monk > Zoom 507 plate reverb (really).
Wonderful tones, as always. 12-strings are the original octave and chorus effect. My acoustic 12er has a unison G string, I tried to like the high G (which becomes the highest-pitched string on the instrument) and all the trademark licks that use it, but it was doing weird things to the more everyday stuff I was playing on it.
You're right, of course, about Rickenbackers reversing the string order; which is a large part of why they sound uniquely, or 'distinctively', different from 'standard' 12 strings.
I’ve just got a £100 kit version of a 12 string Strat that makes, going to enjoy customising and setting it up my own way, can even make it a bit sleeker shaped with a belt sander.
What a great video! I love that you perform guitar setup work. The color of the fretboard is a nice improvement. I’d be tempted to give it another coat of the Montepresso to get it a little darker. The guitar sounds great and the playing was excellent!
Awesome sound.and congrats on the new guitar. If you haven't, or haven't recently, I highly recommend you listen to some Blind Willie McTell -- he's a monster of 12 string blues, and one of my faves.
I too have the Ibanez AS7312. I got it in 2013, and still love it! It had intonation issues though, so I got a new 12 saddle bridge (it came with only a 6 saddle which made it impossible to completely intonate), and I also got an Earvana Acoustic Retro Style Nut. I took it to my luthier friend Steve (RIP) and he cut the slots in the nut and installed everything. Not the 12 string is very, very intonated. I can play an octave D and it's still in perfect tune. I'll post a TH-cam link next on the chance TH-cam will allow it. It's really worth it to upgrade! If the link doesn't appear, the video title is "Ibanez Artcore AS7312 Semi-Hollow Intonation Mods".
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the image quality and sound in the videos these days. The focus looks great. Also, I just bought my first strat! I think you infected me.
12-strings are the hardest to play, most annoying to maintain, impossible to keep in tune…most glorious-sounding things on the planet.
That pretty much sums it up. Well said!
Agreed. It was a bitter sweet day to get rid of mine, but I find a TC sub and up pedal gets me kinda close, without the headache. Close, but not the same.
@@kennethc2466 Sound very much like a POG or similar pedal on a standard electric so I could see how you could get close enough for most parts in a mix.
@@AndrewNuttall Got rid of my POG for the TC after using a friend's. I like it FAR better.
Try an 11 string oud then we can talk about this….
Speaking of “soaked in effects”, my favorite 12 string sound is British Indie Shoegaze / Dreampop band, LUSH. Miki Berenyi’s Epiphone 12 string rhythm chords plus classic Boss pedals equals very happy days indeed! 😃👍
Agreed
She’s the reason I bought a 12 string. I love the Birds, XTC, Smiths, Plimsouls, etc. But when I think of my favorite 12 string sound, it’s Lush.
I can’t pick-up a twelve string without playing The Killing Moon. Instant Bunnymen (on a good many of their songs.) Sounds great Mick!
For years - whenever my uncle would let me get his 1965 360-12, which he'd had from new, out to play - it was a toss up between 'Eight Miles High', 'Ticket To Ride' and 'Needles and Pins'. Didn't see him for years then in 2011 I saw him at my aunt's funeral... 'Have you still got the Ricky?' 'Actually, no I sold it to a mate last week for £600'.
There was almost a second funeral that day (he'd always told me I'd have first dibs after using it on some of my best recordings in Eden, Konk, Chapel etc). I've never gotten over it.
Wow! Adios £4k... some mate.
Bowie's Starman for me on 12 string.
@@samuelxavier2473 Acoustic, maybe. Electric, nein!
Try an electrified bouzouki. It gets even closer!
I’m lucky to be old enough to have a 66 Fender Electric X11 and 69 Villager acoustic with same hockey stick headstock from way before prices got silly, but also have the excellent Dano and one that never crops up in these videos, a noughties Fender Japan Strat X11 (very pretty, metallic blue, matching stock), neck comfy as a regular Strat, regular Strat sounds, why did they never do this earlier?? Shares the fully 12-way adjustable Gotoh bridge as the Dano, a great improvement on the clunky but useable original bridge. Essential feature for vaguely adventurous chords.
Most of these videos get so stuck in the Byrds/Petty clichés (thanks Mick for being disallowed). I’d urge anyone interested to listen to Pat Metheny and Ralph Towner to hear how outside the cliché box you can go. For instance tuning lower 4 pairs in 5ths (so B over low E etc) and see what regular chord shapes work - barred major and minor 7th shapes can spring surprises with major 7ths or 9ths popping out. Or play patterns of harmonics. Or slide. Swelled echo. You’ll stumble on nice things you never imagined. Finally, the stringing arrangement unique to Rickenbackers (overpriced and overrated in my Lackorickenbacker world) may owe its origins to the Greek Bouzouki - another one for you to try, tuned same as top 4 strings of guitar but a tone lower. As a bassist primarily, obvs I like an 8-string bass too. It’s all double the fun.
Rick Biddulph
Those lower end Ibanezes in general are a real steal, incredible guitars for the money and no compromises on looks.
With the greatest respect from an amateur to a professional perspective here, surely a six string played through a valve amp clean channel via a Pog wouldn't be far away from this ?Recently brought a Rickenbacker 360/12 V64 for my semi retirement....sounds fab, wanted one since seeing Harrison play it live in 65, its really tough to play with a nut width 41mm ish....sounds amazing especially on open chords even in my hands. Respect to you for bringing this 12 string episode to the Pedal Show.
Most of you know this already, but Doyle Branhall also wrote "Life by the Drop" and SRV played/recorded it on a 12. Nice bit of picking there.
I think that’s a different Doyle Bramhall, his father.
@@philipellis7039 you may be right, I don't know. Sorry for any confusion!
Anyway it's still a great song and some lovely playing lol
🤣🤣
A different Doyle bramhall with the same name
I needed an electric 12-string for project over 20 years ago. The only affordable option was a Pacifica 12 which turned out to be a great guitar. A couple of years ago I was lucky enough to get one of the Alternate Reality Fender XIIs a few years ago. Apart from changing the 3-way for a four way rotary it is stock.
I got my first 12-string acoustic at 17 (39 years years ago) and would never be without either.
Niiiiice!
Nice. That is a beauty. Ibanez Artcore guitars are great. I have seen close-up pictures of that guitar, and I agree the string spacing at the nut leaves much room for improvement. The one thing you could do to greatly increase your enjoyment of the guitar would be to have a new nut made with optimized string placement. I have alot of experience with that. I use Xcel to tabulate the spacings and Visio to draw the string locations, to give me a template. I could even help you with that if you are interested.
Excellent video, Mick! Thank you for taking us along.
Loads of fun ahead for you - enjoy! Thanks for sharing …
I wanted a 12-string ever since I discovered The Smiths as a teenager. Then some years ago I was on Denmark Street with about an hour to kill while I waited for a bass I'd taken in for repairs to be finished. Logn story short, I went home with my bass... and an Italia Rimini 12-string. No regrets!
Ah man, somebody had a Rimini double neck for sale. Had it not been north of Bristol, I’d have totally gone for it. (Don’t go north of Bristol - nosebleeds and monsters. )
I was vaguely considering buying an electric 12, this has me convinced I need one. Now I just need to decide which one.
I love my Ibanez semi hollow, I got it for my 15th birthday 10 years ago and it's been incredible the whole way
Welcome to the 12-string family. They've always been a necessity for me. Great stuff as always!
The fretboard looks so much nicer once darkened up with that conditioner. The guitar sounds nice too!
Sounds Great , congrats! I got myself a Reverend Airwave 12 string , its such a great guitar stays in tune, slightly shorter scale, independent saddles for each string so you can intonate it, locking tuners, wider neck and very easy to play for a 12 string. Very stable instrument. I highly Recommend it if you are looking for a 12.
I have the same love it
The reverend 12 string is right up there with the hagstroms and the Guild electric semi hollow 12 strings . But I love the Reverends
If you haven't tried a Revered Airwave 12string, then please do before you settle for anything else. I honestly think they are the best 12 out there - not just best for the price - just flat out the best.
It's roughly 4x the price of the ibanez...
@@cosmicrevival7105 have you seen the rest of his guitars???
@@41DegreesSouth yes, but he clearly stated that he didn't want to invest much because it's not a main guitar for him.
@@cosmicrevival7105 hmmm, 🤔 it's all relative I guess.
I thought that at under 900gbp, it is exceptional value, but I take your point.
@@41DegreesSouth it sure is great value. The revered airwave is roughly 1500-1700 euros for me and I do own a couple of guitars above 2000 euros but they are all six strings and I would rather invest the money in something that I use more often than once or twice a month for some recordings. That being said I heard nothing but good things about the guitar. I'm just not playing 12-strings that often to justify the purchase. Also my wife...you know how it is man. 😆
Octave fuzz on a 12 string. Thanks Mick, that made my day. I am now imagining Dan with the 12 string and a POG.
12 string electric is the most beautiful sound of all time. Have been playing electric 12 for my entire career. Best part - knowing when to use it and when not to.
I have a Rick Tuner 12 string made of redwood. He was a guitar tec for the Dead. I don’t think it gets better than this 12 string made by Rick. He passed away a few months ago. I have a left handed model. The model that replaced it, is over 20,000. He made right handed model’s. Very interesting man. Check him out. Worth the time it takes you to find out more.⚡️🎸⚡️
Rick was a personal friend and occasional mentor. You are right that he was an interesting cat.
Brilliant!
The Artcore stuff is really, really nice, and I'll echo the sentiment that 40 years ago one couldn't get half the guitar (or bass!!!) for anywhere near that money.
Bravo!
Interestingly, I just came back here again after watching the 2022 'Summing Up' episode, and when I got down to the 'Closing Thinkings' portion of the vid, you made mention that, after all that investment in high-quality and vintage guitars, you found yourself enjoying the sound of the budget-conscious 12 String.
In that 'Summing Up' vid, you mentioned how much looser and more flexible you were feeling with your new guitars, and how much they were helping you to go with the flow of things (my words), not getting hung up on the machine so much as it seems you are putting your best into the guitar, and the guitars seem to be responding by giving you some great sounds in return. Just thought that was interesting. Hope you are having a lovely Holiday, thanks for everything.
Great buy Mick and nice chops as usual. Like most of the time, when it says "made in Japan" it's a guaranty for good quality. And, hey, they did it again. I expect to see you play this guitar more often during the show. To my ears, this guitar is a steal for that price.
Mick, now I got to get a 12 string, fuzz and you’ve already got the octave. So many possibilities!
Yay!!
I bought one because my Artcore full-hollowbody 6-string AF75 is gorgeous, and it sounds and plays SO very well. But yes, I have to use a bass gig bag for the 12.
Thanks Mick. I got a lot out of that. I've never played one & I didn't know that the top B & E are different to the others. Great to hear an affordable guitar sounding that good. Cheers.
Can you just imagine how thin a string you'd have to use to tune the top E an octave higher? I'm pretty sure that's the only reason the top two pairs are tuned in unison instead of octave.
A new TPS video right as my coffee is ready. Gonna be a good day!
Back when I worked at the guitar shop they’d always say “You spend half your time tuning and half your time outta tune”, lol. Fortunately the modern day 12’s seem to hold tuning fairly well (massive generalization). They’re super cool for layering in tracks too and the last Danelectro 12 I really liked I let get away from me. Congrats on the beautiful guitar, can’t wait to hear more!!! All my love brother!!!
Not true. I have a 12-string ac. electric, a lefty one, even, and I don't have any issues at all keeping it in tune, or dealing with it. If it's set up right, it shouldn't be that
difficult to tune. If you keep screwing with it doing alt. tunings or whatever, it might be.
A good video. I love your approach to action, none of that inches mm gauge nonsense, ha ha.
I like a lot of Paul Kantner's stuff in Jefferson Airplane.
Oh man, I love it! I have 2 Ibanez Artcore semi-hollows, and I really love them. I also have an old Eko 12 string that is just magical. Super cool guitar!
Hey Mick! For years I have been watching and hearing you talk about the Vintera Strats. And for years I have been saying that I am not a Strat guy. I have own 6 or more over the years and they aren’t my voice. Picked up a Road Worn Vintera 50’s Strat a few weeks ago on a “well maybe one more time.” It sits next to my bed. I play it all the time. Can’t get enough of it. Love it. Thanks so much for what you guys do!
Must've spoke to you, looks & sounds fantastic, good on ya! Always good to see what you guys are up to...all the best from Alberta Canada
@17:50 I'd be inclined to use a spirit based dye. Dark oak or ebony. Worked well on my Casino Pau Ferro fretboard, and it's permanent. :)
Thought I’d restring my Yamaha Pacifica 303-12 while I watched this fabulous video. Just about got it done by the end of the bud. Nice one Mick, love the guitar.
Always great to hang out.
Woke up stressed at 4:00 am Seattle time and was saved by your relaxing peaceful video to find some serenity. So grateful it was there for me (and everyone really)
Cheers
That’s great to hear Chris! Wishing you a peaceful day. :0)
I have an Aria Pro acoustic from the 90s my Ma bought me for Christmas back then. I have trouble singing with it because its tough to dig in to the bottom end for rythym guitar. I think 12 strings work better with arpeggios and partial chords anyway, but I always wonder if having the bass string first, like on a Rickenbacker, would make a difference. That just sounds right.
I first played 12 string guitars in the late 60's and early 70's and remember the larger E A D G strings being above the high octave strings as you look down while playing the guitar, meaning your pick contacts the low octave before the higher octave string on a down stroke. Every video I see now has the the higher octave string above the lower octave string and therefore usually picked before the lower octave string. Does anyone remember 12 string guitars strung the way I remember and can shed any light on when that configuration changed or were the guitars I got to play just constantly done wrong? I didn't own a 12 string back then so I was not responsible for the way the strings were installed. Any links to 60's and 70's videos of 12 string guitarists such as Beatles, Byrds, Richie Havens etc which illustrate the string layout would be greatly appreciated.
Hearing a Crossroads riff on TPS wouldn’t normally surprise me but not that one! I think that’s what I heard, I need other middle aged Brits (such as Benny or Miss Diane) to confirm…
Yes! I’m old…I heard it too! Great tune :)
Sadly also old enough to confirm what you heard.😂
Yep, you heard right. Watch out for that wobbly set!
7:18. A 7 minute build up and the first tune is the old theme tune from "Crossroads". 😃Ace!
The Danelectro 12's are a fantastic value (as is their entire line, IMO). Definitely worth checking out.
Yep bought one a few years back.
Once setup right, it was fantastic for the price.
Yes, in the electric 12 strings world, the cheapest is the best. I bought mine used one 300€, so happy with it, easy to play, easy to change strings, always perfectly in tune thanks to the 12 saddle bridge that Rickenbacker and Grtesch laked so much.
Rickenbacker makes a 12-saddle bridge.
06:15 I bought a Squier Jaguar Short Scale Bass for about $500 Australian Dollars a while back. Made in Indonesia. VERY surprised at the quality & playability. Replaced pickups with Bartolinis and it rocks. Yes, folks need to keep an eye out for good quality for price gear. There's plenty about!
I have two twelves - a Dano 59X12 and a recently purchased Squier Jazzmaster. I love them both.
I'll be keeping one of them in open tuning which sounds amazing.
So pumped. Probably favourite song and such an amazing version!!
Love the production quality of TPS videos! From the content themes, video & audio to consistency of information provided in the description. I'd imagine it's a lot of work. I appreciate it :)
Thanks muchly Michael, I really appreciate that. We’re always trying to make it as good as our skills allow!
Inspired by the Beatles and Byrds, I bought a Rickenbacker 360/12 in 1966. A really great guitar and even sitting in its case for years stays “in tune” and plays like a dream. It has that classic sound.
Fantastic choice and great to hear it. I was half tempted to sell you my Burns but you've saved me that heart ache :)
The one cab wet dry rig is sounding amazing Mick! Inspiring set up.
Thanks Charlie. I really love it!
Congrats Mick! Great video - superbly edited and presented too! Enjoy.
@8:00 you were playing close enough to "The Breakup Song", by Greg Kihn Band that I now will forever be in search for a song that doesn't exist, but should. They don't write like that anymore.
Fantastic.
When most blues guitar players cover Crossroads that’s not the version they mean! Love it, right back to best of the 70s!
Glad you mentioned your predicament with the vibe in a w/d rig because that’s my hurdle too. Going the TPS w/d then!! Great guitar
Good on you Mick !! 🎼🎸🎶 I fell ib love with the 12 string after 1st listen of 'New Chautauqua' . 2 yrs later, bought a Guild F-512. I've yet to buy a 12 Electric. Thinking it's about time 😀😉 may you and Dan continue to do what you do. And look forward to shows centering around 12 string guitars. Hint. Hint.
My grandfather just gave me one of his 2 1982 Takamine F-389. Lawsuit era, with the Martin style headstock. Anyways, super lovely guitar Mick enjoy.
Nice
Mick ,you are a top dude, man. The fact that you get excited by the inspiration an electric 12 string ,brings to you, is bleedin' fantastic. look at the world with a childs eyes, all the best.
Thank you kindly Tim!
Mick, I could watch your vlogs all day. Love them.
Congrats! 12s are wonderful! I have a Guild 12 I tune to C. For electric I use an EHX Intelligent Harmony Machine to add an octave down, and fruzz it up with a Fulltone Fulldrive 2V2 and a Wamplet Belle into my '64 Vibroverb and Luckhurst Princeton homage. Epic!
I agree about low-mid priced instruments. I recently went Bass shopping, and purchased a gorgeous Sterling Stingray SS-4 in Olympic White. It played great from the get-go.I did a little fret-edge filing and it just as comfortable as my Suhr or Taylor. Price $549 + tax in NYC. Good Luck with your new guitar Mick.
Yes. I recently got a Squire Affinity Telecaster and I am very pleased with its quality and sound despite the low price point.
I read that the wood they use for this neck is not sturdy or a good hardwood, so I’m guessing these guitars will not holdup to the extra tension on the neck. I don’t know what Ibanez was thinking.
All beautiful tones and textures! Right on, Mick!
That 12 string is beautiful and sounded amazing! Nice guitar Mick!
Thank you Jeff!!
Beauty! I got a Fender Electric XII about 2 years ago and I love it. So much fun!
Good work, Mick! The first time I changed the strings on my Danelectro Vintage 59 12, I broke two strings and lost a pint of blood.
My first guitar was an old Washburn acoustic 12 string from the 80s that needed a lot of work. That neck was so big like playing a 2x4 lol
You can't even mention Hotel and California in the same video without getting demonetized. 🥴 What a treat, Mick!! You are such an inspiration on so many levels!! God bless you!! 🙏
Aw man… loved this episode. I will probably watch again some other time. Every time you enter Mr. Bramhall II zone… its a win. Great work!!!! Plz: record the gig… cheers
Very nice. I ordered a Squire 12-string Paranormal. Looking forward to experimenting with some of your rig components.
What an absolutely super cool sounding guitar! You are a master at finding great guitar deals!
I recommend total beginners start with a twelve! I Dont understand the fear!
Mick, your vlogs have become my favourite TPS episodes. I'm always excited for the regular episodes, and VCQs, but I'm pumped when I see a vlog posted. I like the focus and more personal journey the vlog format allows. That Ibanez was a great score. It sounds, and more importantly, looks awesome! ;-) Great episode. Cheers.
Thanks so much Nick, super kind of you to say!
Great VLOG! As someone who has returned to electric guitar after a 20 year break I can concur that both solid state combo amps and mid range guitars have come a HUGE long way since the 2000s. I have two Ibanez guitars (great to see them getting some TPS love) 20 years apart of a similar price bracket and the difference is astounding, and the new Orange 35RT just destroys my old Marshall 80RCD from the 2000s in every single way except perhaps volume, but even then it's much closer than the wattage would suggest. Great vid!
Awesome vlog, Mick. Thank you. I've enjoyed every minute of it.
Welcome to the club! That sounds and looks amazing. I'm lucky to own a Ric 12 and it's getting a lot of play of late. A bit of tape style flange and some analog delay is working for me at the moment. I use flatwound strings (McGuinn/Townshend) and compression. I keep it clean too but I have to say your drive tones sounded great. Check out David Crosby solo and CSN&Y. Lots of electric 12. Beautiful big jazzy minor 7's. Roger wouldn't let him play 12 in the Byrds! Can't wait to hear more. Chime on.
Sounds KILLER! D Standard with Vibe, has a GREAT sound? ANYTIME you dissect Dolye type sounds…count me in! Love what he does, and sometimes it is hard to get the Tone happening? Of Course, what he’s playing is probably the biggest piece, but his sounds are magic!
Great work Mick.
fuzz & vibe best combo! love the playing Mick
Thank you kindly!
I also love the 12 string guitar. One of my favorite players is this guy from Alsace, Jangle Rhinefart.
Love an electric 12! That's a very cool looking one you've got there Mick!
Was at a similar point some months ago: wanted a 12 string acoustic but did not want to spend the money I've spent on the 6 string Martin and Santa Cruzes. I went for a 1975 Ibanez 12 String "Vintage" dreadnought (Made in Japan) from eBay for below 200 Euros. Shameless Martin copies at that time - bought it unseen and it was shipped in a wonky box. I was absolutely blown away about the sonic quality, loudness and playability of this 47 years old rosewood/sitka thing. Of course, the tuning pegs are not of today's Waverly/Schaller/Grover/Gotoh/... quality but it keeps the tuning surprisingly well. No risk, no fun.
The pickups in the Ibanez artcore guitars are so beautifully fizzy. They make playing fun. Great video Mick!
Great sounds Mick!
Awesome Vlog Mick! Sounds killer, very impressed with your free flowing playing out of the gate.
Takes me huge amounts of time to even be able to pick correctly every time I try a 12, the string distances throw me off completely.
Enjoy it, and the rehearsals and gigs it will be part of!
Tuned up my Danelectro a few months back,and it's still in perfect tune. Best 4.50$ I ever spent.
Always a good time when it's NGD in TPS!
When you started to talk about the "one 12 string performance" my mind went straight to Jimi Hendrix. His "Hear My Train A Coming" on that 12 string is *P H E N O M E N A L* !
Yes!
@@ThatPedalShow so sad we lost Jimi at such an early age.
Fun show. Thanks Mick. My main guitar is an '00s AS73 six string. Love it. A tone I really dig with it is Rangemaster > Harmonious Monk > Zoom 507 plate reverb (really).
It sounds killer with fuzz and distortion. Great buy 👌
Mick is one of favorite guitarists. Something real about him.
That’s very kind of you to say Douglas, thank you!
Wonderful tones, as always. 12-strings are the original octave and chorus effect. My acoustic 12er has a unison G string, I tried to like the high G (which becomes the highest-pitched string on the instrument) and all the trademark licks that use it, but it was doing weird things to the more everyday stuff I was playing on it.
I've been looking at that Ibanez for some time. Well, now it's on the list! Thanks Mick, and enjoy the 12-string!
You're right, of course, about Rickenbackers reversing the string order; which is a large part of why they sound uniquely, or 'distinctively', different from 'standard' 12 strings.
I’ve just got a £100 kit version of a 12 string Strat that makes, going to enjoy customising and setting it up my own way, can even make it a bit sleeker shaped with a belt sander.
Great content, Mick. Thanks for the tour of your new toy!
I LOVE these vlogs. Thanks for sharing your motivation and how you came to acquire it!
Thank you Sean!
What a great video! I love that you perform guitar setup work. The color of the fretboard is a nice improvement. I’d be tempted to give it another coat of the Montepresso to get it a little darker. The guitar sounds great and the playing was excellent!
It’s always great to have a 12 or a Nashville strung guitar if you can afford it. Even jamming to a track is fun
Also, if it has a strong, stable neck: messing with 10-string options can be occasional fun.
Can’t believe I watched the whole thing ,totally awesome ,have two 12,s you said all the right things,so informative
Thank you Kevin!
@@ThatPedalShow oh yes your playing outstanding ,Hendrix and Strat in the same sentence hooked
Awesome sound.and congrats on the new guitar. If you haven't, or haven't recently, I highly recommend you listen to some Blind Willie McTell -- he's a monster of 12 string blues, and one of my faves.
I too have the Ibanez AS7312. I got it in 2013, and still love it! It had intonation issues though, so I got a new 12 saddle bridge (it came with only a 6 saddle which made it impossible to completely intonate), and I also got an Earvana Acoustic Retro Style Nut. I took it to my luthier friend Steve (RIP) and he cut the slots in the nut and installed everything. Not the 12 string is very, very intonated. I can play an octave D and it's still in perfect tune. I'll post a TH-cam link next on the chance TH-cam will allow it. It's really worth it to upgrade! If the link doesn't appear, the video title is "Ibanez Artcore AS7312 Semi-Hollow Intonation Mods".
That sounded awesome, and it made me happy to see you looking so happy with it.
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the image quality and sound in the videos these days. The focus looks great. Also, I just bought my first strat! I think you infected me.
Thank you kindly Richard! Enjoy that Strat! :0)