Guitar as a Textural Device: The Electric 12 String
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Baritone guitar could be an interesting instrument for this series. I know they've become something of a fad recently but they're really great for recording or just for writing - I find if I've written a song on a standard tuning guitar and then try it out on my baritone it lends a very different feel, beyond simply transposing keys
Agreed!
Oh yes indeed - I haven't had a baritone guitar around for a good many years and you're reminding me I neeeeeed one
How much lower is your baritone tuned, and how much longer is the scale?
@@BluegillGreg I made it in millimetres so I think there’s a lot of decimal places in inches - but it’s 680mm scale length (think 25.5” in mm is roughly 648?). Tuned down to B standard, strung with Ernie Ball 72-13s. I generally prefer shorter scale length guitars so made it as short as I thought I could get away with, honestly it doesn’t feel noticeably bigger than my Tele
Edit: just checked and in inches the scale length is about 26.78”
@@ericlayton8888 Thank you! I've been wondering about these for quite a while.
Nice. I am currently building a, I was gonna say 12-string Tearcaster since it's something in-between a tele and a Vox teardrop, but when I showed my daughter the body she thought it looked like "a fancy pear", so it's a Pearcaster now. I have green stainer. But I never owned a 12-string before, kind of exited to finish it now.
That’s awesome
that's so cute!
I wanna see!
The best part about an electric twelve is you can really do everything with it. I do use fast chord changes with it, especially if they're open and you keep the same notes droning. I play hot overdriven leads with multiple effects on, sounds like a synth! I do textural drones, the options are endless, and honestly a better creative tool than a six (in my opinion lol).
seems interesting, kinda what i wanna do, i'm wondering what that sounds like on a 12 string. could you send something so i could listen??
@@tintecobrizo Sure if you'd like I can.
At least twice as good as a six, right? 😄
Eric, there's this band called King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard (yeah cool name for a band right?!) the lead singer plays most of their stuff (which is A LOT OF STUFF) with a 12 string and it's interesting the role of this instrument on their catalog. Try listening to their albums "Nonagon Infinity" and "Muder of the Universe". Nice video as always
Oh yeah I'm hip to those dudes!
damn, i wasnt the first gizzard fan to come here chdbxbsbsn
Eyuuuup
Would also add Temples to that list, they make frequent use of 12 strings. Check out Shelter Song or Fragments Light.
Brian Jonestown Massacre
Was on the fence buying an 12-string.. not anymore.
Love to see more this series. Textures are way more interesting to me than licks.
Great job as always mr Haugen!
I'm the worst gear-purchase enabler :-)
@@EricHaugenGuitar btw. I think you're head and shoulders above all other guitar teachers on youtube. So humble even though you're a killer guitar player.
Got the Deco because of you aswell 🙂
@@EricHaugenGuitar Seriously. I started investigated Dusky Pedals because of you, and now I want the Augustus (because it is friggin incredible) and the Hypatia because it is my daughter's name. So yeah, goodbye $350.
Representing the prog side of things, I have to mention Mike Rutherford of Genesis. He helped to define Genesis' early sound with his acoustic and electric 12-string work on songs like "Musical Box", "Supper's Ready" and "Cinema Show". Honorable mention also goes to Steve Howe of Yes with his raga-ish riffing on "Awaken", which also includes something Eric will probably hate -- a jaw-dropping solo. He used a Rickenbacker for the recording and 70s live work, although he switched to a Steinberger 12-string at some point in the 1980s. I'm sure the tuning was way more stable, although it did cause the character of the sound to change a bit.
John Dwyer from Osees and Stu McKenzine of King Gizzard and the Lizard a Wizard have done great work with 12s
Was just about to comment the same, they’re the first guys that come to mind with electric 12s
that's THE lizard wizard to you, sir.
Spent about a year looking into twelve strings, finally got my hands on an old black Greco RG-95 (Ric 360/12c63 clone) and what a dream it is... You're right, picking out individual notes is where these truly shine for sure, but I can't help big strumming the chords to My Sweet Lord every time I pick it up.
We should thank Eric for taking us on thematic journeys. Guitar as textural device seems like a rich new direction for this channel.
This is right up your alley Reg!
Textures! Loops! Vibes!
have you heard of the band Lush? they use an electric 12 string as a "textural device" very prominently, especially in their album "spooky"
Oh hell yeah cool band!
David Bowie once joked of the Rickenbacker electric 12 that it practically comes with a manifesto attached. 🤣
hahahahaha THE PURITY OF THE BRAND MUST REMAIN
When I watch Andy, I *sometimes*-not always-say to myself, “I gotta get that.”
When I watch Eric, I always, *always!* say to myself, “I HAVE TO TRY THAT!”
Cheers, and thanks for all of it.
YES!!!!!!!
That's so my thing!
I love buying stuff too, but I'd much rather encourage creativity and joy than spending money!
Great highlighting 'Shelter Song', one of the best 12 string opening riffs there is. Just a great song and great band.
I've owned a Rick 330/12 for 30 years and can't recall seeing anyone explore the "opportunities" quite like this. Thanks Eric!
i have a grestsch 12 and just bought a rick 330. love the rick 12 sound but the neck is so narrow i find it unplayable. like mandolin level tight.
The 12 string electric has a metallic element to it, it would be crazy with a flanger.
You went a bit Forrest Gump on us at the end, I thought that you might start talking about shrimp 😄
I’ve been listening to the band The Church recently and that shimmer of the 12 string on some of their songs has really stuck with me.
Starfish is one of my favorite records!
Theyve recently released another album BTW...
I would LOVE a slide guitar video. I love the sound of slide. Rock and Roll, Free Bird, Ain't That Peculiar (Fanny!), and many more songs have such awesome slide parts. Slide can be so subtle (Rock and Roll) and also smash your brain... yep. I'm sure your video will help me get into it. Thanks for all you do!
I've got a few slide vids so far:
th-cam.com/video/euGd2hTiVno/w-d-xo.html
But I definitely will shoot another few under this umbrella!
@@EricHaugenGuitar Thank you so much for replying with a link. I'll check those videos out - and when I get full control of this thumb pain I'll even look into booking a lesson. I truly appreciate what you do for us.
Nice! You're one of the few people on YT that sounds musical (to me) when they play guitar. How about a suggested recordings section? I'd like to check out some of those bands you mentioned...
Everyone's tastes are so different! Sometimes I think about making a "The Albums that Bent my Brain" vid, but it feels narcissistic.
Basically, I listened to all the proper classic rock and soul, and then once I heard Pixies and Jane's Addiction, shit started to get weird! To me, those bands are the gateway drug to all the indie/other musics
My 1st guitar (When I decided to really learn) was a Alvarez 12string acoustic 😎👍 Great for building callouses !😉😎👍
Right now it's set up for Pink Floyd's "Fearless" 🤣😎👍
BEST 12string ever had was a ' 76 Guild maple FJ30.
Love me a 12string 😎🖖
😎👍❤🖖
Love brother
Been on the look for an electric 12 for a while but as a high school student without a job, it's always felt like something I will never have. I think the fact it feels so far away makes playing one in music stores feel so much more mystical. Fantastic video, love the song choices and demonstrations.
The next generation!
I remember those days - patience young grasshopper, one day you'll have *almost* all the guitars you desire :-)
I have been looking at buying one of these Dano 12 strings and then you go and do a video on the very guitar. I think you just pushed me over the edge. Great video. Thank you!
The A.I. KNOWS.
it KNOWS!!!!
love the little wilbury's shoutout
Oh yeah! The Wilbury's and Full Moon Fever are hugely influential records for me!
WOW, I was watching like... "wait what... Lily's? No way!" Love that Select EP, Ive been listening to the precollection album again lately. - Not some thing you hear on youtube guitar channels haha, I love all the music you reference.
Me and Adrian Woodward @anyonecanplayguitar are like the only 2 guitar teachers on the Toob that'll rep the indie drip!
@@EricHaugenGuitar please please share the other two. This content is so good. Refreshing is an understatement.
love this guy’s personality omg
Thanks Kyle - I'm a doof!
love the idea of a series about guitar as a textural device! thank you for that lesson!
I have the 59 12 with a p-90 on the neck and it's fantastic ! The p-90 really fills out the room. The Rickys have the the bass string on top.
Reminds me of Dave Gregory! Thanks Eric, another great lesson.
I've got the exact same guitar. Complete with the obligatory white trim. Awesome video! Gonna dig mine out today and twang away...
I lovethisvideo.I learned so much from this 15 minute video. I love playing rhythm, esp on a twelve. This video delves into all of that rhythm and texture,
A Lilys deep cut! Returns Every Morning is another jangling gem!
I just stumble into your channel a few weeks ago and I keep finding amazing stuff, thanks for sharing! :D
Life saver! Thank you Eric! I made an uncharacteristic impulse buy recently - a Rickenbacker 360 previously owned by Walter Becker, bought at auction. The price seemed low (below a new 360), and it was because it's a 12 string, not made obvious on the auction site! While it's fun having a Becker guitar, I've not dived in to figure out the 12 string and what to do with it. This will get me off my butt!
'textural device' was my nickname in highschool
I have a semi-permanent loan of a mid-2000s Made In Japan Strat XII. Fantastic instrument.
Lucky!
Thanks for No advertising. Very Happy to support you on Patreon. Also the tabs there are great!
Wow when you played that Temples song I was like “no way he’s playing this obscure song from my road trip playlist”
Hey Eric, I hope you’re well man. I just got a Squier JM XII and had to revisit this video. Will definitely be droning with it!
Great video. I use a Gretsch electric 12 string on otherwise synth-heavy songs to give it an analog feel. Only for rhythm, and I chorus it and flange it. TEXTURE and COLOR -- like the man said.
You really do 12 strings justice. Sounds awesome.
Finally a TH-cam video with a 12 string in tune 👍 Great demo of the 12 dano. I am convinced.. Great demonstration 🎶🎸🎸
Thanks for all your suggestions for exploring the 12-string to the fullest beyond its most obvious use. Also great to hear that I'm not the only one with string-spacing and tuning issues! Interesting discussion on how to hold the pick, too. Anyway, I just recently acquired an electric Yamaha SA-20 and absolutely love it. Should have made the plunge 20 years ago! Cheers.
I have a 12 string strat and this has inspired me to pull it out. I love that thing!
Love the DaneElectro ❤️
That was great. Love the white black guitar color. Must have one too
Top notch video, as usual. Great shout out to Lilys too, a way way under appreciated band!
Yesssss! Eccsame the Photon Band is one of my other faves by Kurt and whoever
Thanks for the Lilys, so good.👍
Yesssss! Eccsame the Photon Band is one of my other faves by Kurt and whoever
I love videos that help me understand my instrument and make me a better player. I got a Gretsch Electromatic 12 string and did exactly what you did at the beginning… strumming and rhythm parts, playing popular 12 songs, etc…
Now…
Drone - root, octave, 5th…
Playing major key songs in a minor key.
and G is a key I like to sing in too, so I found myself writing some stuff and looking up some of the less known stuff you suggested.
Great video & channel.
That's what I love to hear!
My whole thing is about inspiration and creativity!
The 12-string is back! Thanks Eric. Never get tired of this sound.
that is a magnificent & magical sounding guitar
I loved the G drone. I could have listened to that forever.
Love it! You've got me tempted to buy my first ever 12 string and those Dan electros are very reasonable
There's nothing else like 'em! Rapturous Jangle!
I still have an old Danelectro circa early 60's. Silvertone. Originally it came with an amp built into the case. I dont have the case but wish I did. I break it out and play occasionally and it sound great.
Wonderful video Eric, hipnotizing playing!!! I could listen the entire day to this
The Sisters of Mercy and the Mission Uk always made great use of electric twelvers, Wayne Hussey is a legend in electric 12 !
Cool video, and I like the idea on recurring episodes on guitar as a textural device. I will also say that I’ve bought four guitars as a result of watching this channel. A nylon string acoustic, a J Mascis Squier Jazzmaster, a Fender Mustang, and a Danelectro Stock ‘59. With regard to the Danelectro I couldn’t have been more pleased and think it is one of the greatest econo purchases you can make. Have a good weekend Eric. (Editorial note: I had to keep editing this post because I kept remembering more guitars that I bought as a result of watching this channel 😂😂😂 ). There is probably a Danelectro 12 string in my future now. LOL . The Stock ‘59 is the stuff. 🤠
I bestow my Haugen blessing upon the headstocks of all your guitars :-)
@@EricHaugenGuitar - I am not going to lie, I was surprised it was so many lol. Think I’ll take a break for a while from new purchases!
Thank you, Eric. My go to wrench in my box is my Taylor 355ce, which I keep in Double Drop D. Lots o' D-Droney fun. Now you've given me more stuff to explore, and a Jones for that Dano. Keep it up, man. 👍
I was getting ready to suggest temples if your hadn't heard them and then you played the riff!!!! Awesome 🙌
love that birdesque sound
That G drone thing you did reminded me of the Tea Party, I love that sound...sick guitar Eric!
Dan electro 12 is a joy to hear….. used righteously..
"Happy Friday, eat pizza!" is a most excellent sentiment and suggestion! Good vid, thanks.
I have that guitar. I've owned a Rice 12C63 and don't think the price difference is worth it. On my Danelectro I typically only use the middle pickup setting selected. I think it sounds best there. Great video as usual!
Takes me back to the 60s and the Byrds.
Thanks for the video! You've convinced me to get a Danelectro 12-string!
Yessssss!
You got me, I've ordered a 12. Years of hankering but not quite pulling the trigger. Thanks! (I think...)
Thank You for the great video. For me 12 string guitars are ALL about the textures. Marty Wilson-Piper was onto this decades ago with The Church. The Danelectro sounds more like a banjo than a guitar to me. But Jim McGuinn played his Rickenbackers with a banjo fingerpicking style so no problem there. A lot of people complain about the thin neck of the 3xx RIC lines. Three ways to easily fix that though. 1/ Modify the nut to widen the string spacing, 2/ Purchase a 3xx RM model or, 3/ Purchase a 6xx RIC 12 instead.
I LOVE The Church! Was just listening to "Starfish" last week!
@@EricHaugenGuitar You probably are familiar with them but if not, please check out "Is This Where You Live?" from the band's debut album "Of Skins and Heart" and also "Electric Lash" from the band's third album "Seance". Texture Heaven afaic! Cheers from the LAnd Down Under :)
I agree. For being one instrument, the 12 string adds so much to the musical palette.
Love the Traveling Wilburys by the way!
Are these examples tabbed on your website?
Naw, I don't have time to tab this vid out!
I'm somewhat manically prepping a truefire course that I'm flying down to FL to film at the end of the month, and my spare time is.....compressed!
Don't forget the kinds of textures that Arto Guthrie was getting on his no wave records in the late 70s.
A black n white Danelectro 12 string!! Beautiful!! Goes perfectly with your surf green 6 string! Great vid as always, Eric!! 😎👍🏻🎸🎶🎶👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻☘✌🏻🎃
Holy smokes man - you have that sound dialed in!
Beautiful work pal. I regret selling my 12-string Dano now.
Sounds very cool. Very good tutorial.
On the money, creating space in the song and allowing those strings to ring is the way, i’ve played with other bands and stuff where the guitars are playing all these rhythm chords and I just hit a few notes here and there that would cut through the whole thing and made much more of an impact
Ohhhhh I am excited about this. Love those tones
A good trick to get a 12-string sound with a 6-string is use a pitch shifter pedal with an octave up and mix at 50% with a light chorus
The Digitech Mosaic is my go-to pedal for that 12-string sound.
I use one of these in my band were a 2 piece punk band influence by fugazi and shellac, its a great instrument
Would love to see Bass VI in this series too
Yesssss I neeeeeeeeeed one!
I love 12-string guitars, acoustic and electric. But the way I like to play is arpeggiating extended chord structures (added 2nd, 9th, 4th, 6th, 7th, aug, dim, sus., etc.) with a few ringing open strings. With the12-string, chords with 2nds, 4ths, 6ths, those close harmonies don't sound dissonant as on a 6 string guitar, and the guitar sings like an harp or a piano.
0:52 thank you for that.
Purple flake Dano 12 here!
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!
@@EricHaugenGuitar it was that or a charvel surfcaster it showed up first!
Great video. You sound really good on that guitar. Great player.
I know you're a Thompson fan, and so you know that Ric 12s are crucial to a lot of what Richard Thompson had Simon Nicol playing behind him, whether we're talking later Fairport, or his solo stuff...
Blues, in particular country-blues, sounds great on 12-string guitars. Think how nice The Black Keys' cover of "Poor Boy" would sound on that guitar.
Late to the party...Roger McGuinn has been my electric 12 string touchstone since I heard the Byrds in the 60s. I've had two acoustics but never ventured into electric. I am not convinced that a chorus pedal is a good replacement for a decent 12 string. I have a Dano 6 string. This Dano 12 is on my "gotta get" list. Great video with loads of great info.
I would tune it in open D, open G or Dadgad and use fingerpicking to drone all day long.
dude i just listened to that lilys album and holy fuck that shit is insane god damn
Well after hearing that intro, I now know how the foo fighters got the guitar tone at the beginning of times like these.. The tone is almost identical.
Very nice presentation. It would have been interesting to insist on 2 points :
a) the difference between 12-Danelectros and 12-Rickenbakers : as the octave strings are inverted on Rickens, the sound is pretty different.
b) the incredible sound of 12 strings guitars in open D (or open E) tuning ! (with easier fingerings and diminished efforts to press the strings). Blues, country, folk, gospel, a 12-string guitar perfectly fits all these styles.
I looked up the price for this guitar and was amazed how little it is for what you get. I have one on order.
The friends theme song in a minor key sounds like it should be a Mastodon intro.
So, no one told you life was going to be this way...
Aaahhh man you buy me in every aspect, what can i say. You got a new sub!
PD: Also you remind me of someone I can’t remember but it’s seems like kinda familiar in a way. Feels comfortable in your videos. Keep it up!
Yay! Welcome Sanso!
Hey, the Friends theme song is cool, esp in minor! Nice!
ohhhh yeah tuning a 12 string is LOADDDS of fun
You play in a way the that new songs spring forth.
Thanks man! Courting Creativity - that's the stuff!
Right on bro!!! You’re one of the best!!!!
Watch out, that progression should be Handled With Care!
And the first thing I do every time I pick up a 12 string is play "Mr. Tambourine Man", not chords, but I suppose that's about as obvious as you get. Can't ever resist.
Yeah, Page seemed to always use the Danelectro in alt tunings. Open A and DADGAD. Speaking of, that rockabilly-ish noodling kind of sounded like the end riff from "Hots on For Nowhere".
That old Carter picking applied to a 12 string sounds super 60s, which makes sense.
Also, for pedal steel, there's the option of imitating pedal steel. I already use super light strings for bending and vibrato, so I just add in use of the volume knob. Probably easier on a Strat than my Les Paul, but it's what the song I'm currently working on called for.
My 12 is an acoustic. I use it in DADGAD a lot, which really maximises drone potential. Also, easier to play.
@@migrantfamily That makes sense, since that tuning is based on that of the sitar.
@@bfish89ryuhayabusa cool, I didn’t know that.
Great video and great playing! Gave me some ideas to try on my Fender XII!
Nice video, now I understand a 12 string better, what’s is for and how to get the most of it, you should listen to Mexican regional music, they used a lot the 12 string
13.00 sounds fantastic.. Instant song!
Very nice 🙂❤️👍🏻 thank you!
I was just thinking of buying one electric 12!