How many hours have been put on your Makita rotary drill during the 3+ years you've owned it and what are the things you like about it most and dislike most? What kind of work did you do with the tool? I'm interested in feedback from people who own and operate these tools since I'm considering buying a rotary hammer drill to remove an in-ground cement Koi pond that has rebar. The concrete is as thick or thicker than what's typical for a swimming pool. Would you say the Makita up to the task or is this kind of job out of its league?
This was a pretty good review for understanding power and comfort -really one of the best tests I've *ever* seen. I've had a Dewalt and a Metabo (formerly Hitachi). BOTH great, but both were stolen. :-( As an electrician, I mostly used them for putting in grounding rods, so two of my main criteria were not mentioned here: Weight (I use it over my head) and Length (I'm often limited by the space I fit in ...such as putting an 8' ground rod in under a low basement ceiling). For speed cutting bigger holes, a 7.25" grinder with a core bit can't be beat (warning: it IS messier). Anyway, I finally decided to buy a cheapo Bauer SDS Max Rotary hammer from Harbor freight. It was slower drilling a 36" hole using a 3/4"bit in concrete and dirt, but just as powerful in the long run; never got stuck or anything. The Bauer is lighter, easier to lift, and to handle too. At a mere $189, it's over $1,300 cheaper than the Hilti (!) and typically 40-70% less than anything else here. Before this, I HATED the very idea of buying cheap tools. Not me! No! Never!!! I have NO doubt that the Bauer would have lost to any of the drills you tested, but I gotta say, for a more casual Pro user, these tools are a waste of money. BTW, I have to agree about your first category and I'm glad you included this: Space in the Case is SO important. The Bauer case stored my bits and rod pounder (can I say that???) and even had 2 molded circles which I used to store the included extra grease and a prescription pill bottle where I put my ear plugs -nice touch!
I have used a DeWalt sds Max for years, and it's great, however believe it or not I've been using a harbor freight Bauer 1 9/16" SDS max and it's been just as good at a fraction of the cost. If you guys get around to doing another test it would be nice to add that one.
Excellent video! There is yet another feature, which takes a long time to prove. Reliability. In this feature, all these tools are good, but experience has shown that Makita is own class !!!
I bought a remanufactured Bosch SDS Max drill like the one in this video today. It didn’t score as well as the others but for the price of $239 shipped I couldn’t pass it up. And I won’t be using it a whole lot either so it’ll do fine for me.
so odd i never see Makita win anything before well glad they have a tool that stands out so far i have seen my favorite brand always come in second and the first place seems to most of the time go to Milwaukee. what is a hilti? hahaha
One thing I would really like for you to touched on where is the amperage of each unit and if they were the same. Since that’s part of the driving cost of these units is how many amps the motors are. Yes I’m lazy I know by your list I can go look for this for myself but it would’ve been nice. As a woman in need of a hammer drill I greatly appreciate this video and thank you very much. OK guys mind out of the gutter lol
The overall goal of this test was to compare products but in my opinion price cathegories are too apart/different. Among other very important criteria are price value, ROI, durability, etc. I bought a new Milwaukee 5317-31 for $327 and a Makita would cost $263 more, almost the double. Is like comparing a Corolla vs. a Camry vs. a Lexus which are completely different levels, categories. Currently I´m under a limited budget so bring on the vibration, the sourness, slowness of the Milwaukee. That being said, I find your tests/comparisons extraordinary. Thanks a lot!
I bought the Bosch RH540M for just $239 remanufactured on eBay last night and I looked up the Hilti and it was priced at close to a grand new so I’m happy with the price I paid for the Bosch. I won’t use it a lot but it’ll be handy to have at times.
After struggling for two days in breaking up a one+ ton, blue rock boulder (hardest rock variety in the Islands), using an older Hilti TE75E rotary hammer to chip into the boulder and install rock breaking wedges, I went to the nearby HD store to buy a Makita HR4002 Rotary Hammer and a 5/8" X13 " Milwaukee drill tip. Super easy setting up the Makita and got started drilling 5/8" holes into blue rock like it was frozen butter. Very little vibration in Makita, it's lightweight, has good ergonomics, and little kickback whenever the drill binds trying to enlarge the holes by moving tip angle side to side. Because I was able to drill much faster with the Makita than the Hilti, I was able to make deeper holes into the boulder which allowed my Dad's 50 year old rock breaking wedges to penetrate much deeper into holes, also making it safer while pounding it with a sledge hammer. Get the Makita and become a boulder breaking master.
Would you recommend the Makita Rotary Hammer if I need to demolish a rebar reinforced concrete Koi pond? The concrete is slightly thicker than the typical thickness of an in-ground swimming pool.
Why no core drill testing? It's a definitive function for some of us, and not all SDS Max rotary hammers include a "drill ONLY" function for use with diamond core drilling. Why buy a separate tool when you SHOULD be able to core drill with any SDS Max chucked rotary hammer.
I really appreciate your well conceived and well executed comparisons! These are the best of the web for sure, and show the great integrity I need in order to make a fair and honest choice. I would like to hear a quick statement about why you chose this 1-9/16" size, and what that size's best applications are, and even better would be guidance for people like me who can afford a rotary hammer quiver of only 1 size for general residential construction and remodel use. It would be nice if you perform an updated version, as we are seeing more of the manufacturers include anti-vibe technologies, brushless offerings, and enhanced computer controls to help performance and longevity. Some manufacturers have gone through radical changes, like the very respectable Metabo moving from Germany to Asia with its acquisition by also very respectable Hitachi and the rejiggered HMT corp that manufactures everything in various Asia locales, some good, some not so good. Thanks again for the great reviews!
Thank you for making this i was looking for a review on hammer drills im currently looking to get one and its not a cheap tool so i want the best for the buck thanks once again
We bought a Dewalt a few years ago to remove a stone veneer from the concrete slab around our pool. With a cranked (bent) chisel it did a great job. My sweet lady was able to use it almost as much as I was. I'm about to use it to bore some hole into rock ledge to anchor the pilings that will support a solar array. The ergonomics are very nice with this tool. My back does get tired from the bending over though. Great review, I might go for the Makita if I were in the market again.
This is a great review, but I was not able to find anywhere in the video or post afterwards that state the model numbers of the individual tools tested. There are some highlighted in text when they are covered, but there is not a list or a mention of each by model number in the review. Specifically, there is no mention of which Makita model you tested. May I ask what the model number is of the Makita?
+A Concord Carpenter Thanks for asking. I went with the Makita, the lack of vibration and ergonomics were key for me. We only use it sparingly and the Hilti didn't justify the price for our use. Plus I've had 18V cordless Makita drills for years and years and they are very robust. We will use it in residential electrical applications. Thanks again. Peter.
Thanks, I thought i noticed the corded tools were declining after tti bought them, but i do have to say i've been more than happy with my cordless gear.
please help! l am drilling rock using 32x920 driil bit. which rotary hammer l need? l am using DBK DB 1700-50 1700W 11KG 27J 11 kg. l would like to buy hilti te 60 but it weight only 6.4 kg and 7.3 joule. can l get the same result with the hilti te 60? thanks
these rotary hammer are for different ratings, like Makita has over 8 lbft of hammer power while Milwaukee has only 5.5lbft, this Bosch has 6.1lbft but there a more powerful model 11426that has over 8 lbft, that reflects in price as well, this bosch and Milwaukee are cheapest in the pack.
I just bought the Bosch RH540M remanufactured for $239 shipped. It didn’t score as well as the others in this test but for my occasional use it should do just fine I hope and it was affordable for me.
@@hermancmThat is great price,where did you found that deal? I used the Milwaukee one that tested here to open up concrete floor in basement for new washoom drainage, fast and easy no problem at all. your Bosch can do better.
Can anyone tell me why the larger rotary hammers never seem to come with a depth stop bar? I've been using tape but it always gets ripped up over time.
Some don't have that stop that keeps the drill from breaking wrists if you had the stop bar in this case the would more then Likely break would be my assumption (Not to mention making a big tool bigger seems like a bad idea) again completely my opinion
i am trying to spread awarness i am a carpenter who never knew that dry drilling concrete is so dangerous and can be stopped using water there is no cure for it and has killed millions of people it only takes 7 microns to cause this which can happen on 1 hole be safe use water when you can or a respirator and warn people nearby if dry drilling it doesnt just affect you but anyone within 30 feet
thats not true bc im a 13 year concrete cutter and have inhaled pletty of concrete dust and im not dead yet. it is bad for you to breathe but not as deadly as they say it is. its union scare tactics they use to mandate you to have to do something or else be fined or get fired. sometimes masks are not safe because they create oxygen deprivation to the brain and thats more damaging short term than a little dust inhalation.
I own a plus and max from hilti, makita, and Bosch. And a max fuel from Milwaukee. I tend to reach for the makitas too. My guys prefer the Hiltis for the most part, so those have taken a beating and are still great. The Bosch drills, especially the max are very disappointing, slower and heavier than the cordless tools. For the money, makita is close enough to hilti that I don’t know how to justify the cost of hilti. For coring a 4” hole in masonry from a ladder (dryer vent or fart fan) you can’t beat the makita 36v.
Hilti is the best. But the most expensive, milwaukee is very good. Durable and powerful. But bosch hammer drills are a little more powerful than milwaukee. Also more rough around the edges.. my entire platform is milwaukee however.
After 2+ years of use, what's your opinion of the Milwaukee Rotary Hammer? Approximately how many hours of use have been put on the tool? Biggest likes and dislikes about the tool? Any reliability or maintainability issues? Based on your personal experience, if you had the choice to pick a new rotary hammer, without consideration to the battery platform, would which rotary hammer would you choose today, and why?
You shouldnt have used the hilti te60, it has 7,8 kg -1350w, 1 kg heavier than the makita hr4013 - 1100w and bosch gbh 5-40 - 1150w. Its one class superior than the latter two. Try it against the makita hr4511 and bosch gbh 8-45 and than tell us how it goes! Anyway, its price its scary high 1500$, twice the price of the other two, not a little bit more like you said. So who wants the hilti?
Have you ever used a hammer drill in thick reinforced concrete like this testing? It is slow, tedious, noisy, dirty work. Kind of like watching a video comparison of paint brushes, followed by watching the paint drying simply to arrive at a conclusion. It is not a task well lent to exciting video compario's. I think their approach is perfect, and glad they spared us too much valueless video.
Thanks for the honest review. I purchased the Makita after watching this video. I am very pleased with the tool.
How many hours have been put on your Makita rotary drill during the 3+ years you've owned it and what are the things you like about it most and dislike most? What kind of work did you do with the tool? I'm interested in feedback from people who own and operate these tools since I'm considering buying a rotary hammer drill to remove an in-ground cement Koi pond that has rebar. The concrete is as thick or thicker than what's typical for a swimming pool. Would you say the Makita up to the task or is this kind of job out of its league?
Yes, I have heard the Makitas are very smooth
This was a pretty good review for understanding power and comfort -really one of the best tests I've *ever* seen.
I've had a Dewalt and a Metabo (formerly Hitachi). BOTH great, but both were stolen. :-(
As an electrician, I mostly used them for putting in grounding rods, so two of my main criteria were not mentioned here: Weight (I use it over my head) and Length (I'm often limited by the space I fit in ...such as putting an 8' ground rod in under a low basement ceiling).
For speed cutting bigger holes, a 7.25" grinder with a core bit can't be beat (warning: it IS messier).
Anyway, I finally decided to buy a cheapo Bauer SDS Max Rotary hammer from Harbor freight. It was slower drilling a 36" hole using a 3/4"bit in concrete and dirt, but just as powerful in the long run; never got stuck or anything. The Bauer is lighter, easier to lift, and to handle too. At a mere $189, it's over $1,300 cheaper than the Hilti (!) and typically 40-70% less than anything else here.
Before this, I HATED the very idea of buying cheap tools. Not me! No! Never!!!
I have NO doubt that the Bauer would have lost to any of the drills you tested, but I gotta say, for a more casual Pro user, these tools are a waste of money.
BTW, I have to agree about your first category and I'm glad you included this: Space in the Case is SO important. The Bauer case stored my bits and rod pounder (can I say that???) and even had 2 molded circles which I used to store the included extra grease and a prescription pill bottle where I put my ear plugs -nice touch!
I have used a DeWalt sds Max for years, and it's great, however believe it or not I've been using a harbor freight Bauer 1 9/16" SDS max and it's been just as good at a fraction of the cost. If you guys get around to doing another test it would be nice to add that one.
Excellent video! There is yet another feature, which takes a long time to prove. Reliability. In this feature, all these tools are good, but experience has shown that Makita is own class !!!
Dewalt has never let me down, I will purchase the Dewalt. Thanks for the video !!
I bought a remanufactured Bosch SDS Max drill like the one in this video today. It didn’t score as well as the others but for the price of $239 shipped I couldn’t pass it up. And I won’t be using it a whole lot either so it’ll do fine for me.
Out of curiosity will you be doing a video on newer cordless sds+ rotary hammers?
I would love to see you do this review for drilling basalt and or granite rocks.
DUSS is the benchmark in durability and parts!
so odd i never see Makita win anything before well glad they have a tool that stands out so far i have seen my favorite brand always come in second and the first place seems to most of the time go to Milwaukee. what is a hilti? hahaha
can this tool be used as a shovel by adding a spade to it for digging?
was there anything good about the Milwaukee? it's relatively new no?
One thing I would really like for you to touched on where is the amperage of each unit and if they were the same. Since that’s part of the driving cost of these units is how many amps the motors are. Yes I’m lazy I know by your list I can go look for this for myself but it would’ve been nice. As a woman in need of a hammer drill I greatly appreciate this video and thank you very much. OK guys mind out of the gutter lol
The overall goal of this test was to compare products but in my opinion price cathegories are too apart/different. Among other very important criteria are price value, ROI, durability, etc. I bought a new Milwaukee 5317-31 for $327 and a Makita would cost $263 more, almost the double. Is like comparing a Corolla vs. a Camry vs. a Lexus which are completely different levels, categories. Currently I´m under a limited budget so bring on the vibration, the sourness, slowness of the Milwaukee. That being said, I find your tests/comparisons extraordinary. Thanks a lot!
I bought the Bosch RH540M for just $239 remanufactured on eBay last night and I looked up the Hilti and it was priced at close to a grand new so I’m happy with the price I paid for the Bosch. I won’t use it a lot but it’ll be handy to have at times.
Rob, we need a head to head a cordless sds max rotory hammer
After struggling for two days in breaking up a one+ ton, blue rock boulder (hardest rock variety in the Islands), using an older Hilti TE75E rotary hammer to chip into the boulder and install rock breaking wedges, I went to the nearby HD store to buy a Makita HR4002 Rotary Hammer and a 5/8" X13 " Milwaukee drill tip. Super easy setting up the Makita and got started drilling 5/8" holes into blue rock like it was frozen butter. Very little vibration in Makita, it's lightweight, has good ergonomics, and little kickback whenever the drill binds trying to enlarge the holes by moving tip angle side to side. Because I was able to drill much faster with the Makita than the Hilti, I was able to make deeper holes into the boulder which allowed my Dad's 50 year old rock breaking wedges to penetrate much deeper into holes, also making it safer while pounding it with a sledge hammer. Get the Makita and become a boulder breaking master.
Would you recommend the Makita Rotary Hammer if I need to demolish a rebar reinforced concrete Koi pond? The concrete is slightly thicker than the typical thickness of an in-ground swimming pool.
Cordless ones coming up?
Why no core drill testing? It's a definitive function for some of us, and not all SDS Max rotary hammers include a "drill ONLY" function for use with diamond core drilling. Why buy a separate tool when you SHOULD be able to core drill with any SDS Max chucked rotary hammer.
I really appreciate your well conceived and well executed comparisons! These are the best of the web for sure, and show the great integrity I need in order to make a fair and honest choice. I would like to hear a quick statement about why you chose this 1-9/16" size, and what that size's best applications are, and even better would be guidance for people like me who can afford a rotary hammer quiver of only 1 size for general residential construction and remodel use.
It would be nice if you perform an updated version, as we are seeing more of the manufacturers include anti-vibe technologies, brushless offerings, and enhanced computer controls to help performance and longevity. Some manufacturers have gone through radical changes, like the very respectable Metabo moving from Germany to Asia with its acquisition by also very respectable Hitachi and the rejiggered HMT corp that manufactures everything in various Asia locales, some good, some not so good.
Thanks again for the great reviews!
Great video. Makita always tends to win with me for the chisel drills etc
Excellent review
Thank you for making this i was looking for a review on hammer drills im currently looking to get one and its not a cheap tool so i want the best for the buck thanks once again
We bought a Dewalt a few years ago to remove a stone veneer from the concrete slab around our pool. With a cranked (bent) chisel it did a great job. My sweet lady was able to use it almost as much as I was. I'm about to use it to bore some hole into rock ledge to anchor the pilings that will support a solar array. The ergonomics are very nice with this tool. My back does get tired from the bending over though. Great review, I might go for the Makita if I were in the market again.
Since the Dewalt and Bosh Dust cant be used when chipping, do they pass current and new Silica OSHA requirements when chipping?
Sir best 5kg demolition chipping machine best compeny sir please
Which hammer had more power in chiseling mode: Makita or Hilti. I mean the hardest hitting?
You guys should test Metabo
Mr Sevenfold agreed - we've been including them in recent testing
Great vid thanks! I have a concrete slab I need to break up. 12 inches x 15 feet long 6 inches deep. Do you think a rotary hammer would do a good job?
Jerry T Yes if you drill a bunch of holes side by side and then chip them to break away.
+Jerry T Rent an electric jackhammer. You'll thank me later.
Nice Review!!
Good work!!!
This is a great review, but I was not able to find anywhere in the video or post afterwards that state the model numbers of the individual tools tested. There are some highlighted in text when they are covered, but there is not a list or a mention of each by model number in the review. Specifically, there is no mention of which Makita model you tested. May I ask what the model number is of the Makita?
SDS works with 3/16 bits?
I have a dewalt d25553k and is great, the only thing is that this dewalt breakes the drill bits, i have tried different brands and it is the same ting
Thank you for the great video! Helped me a lot in making my decision. Great and to the point.
+Peter Pruneanu Which one did you choose?
+A Concord Carpenter Thanks for asking. I went with the Makita, the lack of vibration and ergonomics were key for me. We only use it sparingly and the Hilti didn't justify the price for our use. Plus I've had 18V cordless Makita drills for years and years and they are very robust. We will use it in residential electrical applications. Thanks again. Peter.
Me too
@@ConcordCarpenter could you do an update video on the modern lineup?
Great video.
I use the milwaukee sds plus
Would’ve liked to seen Milwaukee
How much blow was used in the making of this video?
funny
Price needs to considered. Some of these categories will be irrelevant to many users. I'd go Bosch for overall value, performance and reliability.
Thanks for the review, but i have to ask, was the milwaukee so bad that it didn't get a mention because it was so bad or did it just get forgotten ?.
It did not perform as well as the top models . Milwaukee needs to step up their game in this category
Thanks,
I thought i noticed the corded tools were declining after tti bought them, but i do have to say i've been more than happy with my cordless gear.
The 5426-21 is the model that should have been tested. It's a 1-3/4 like the DeWalt.
StyXSISoriginal it has not seen any updates or innovation in awhile and was at the rear of the pack
please help! l am drilling rock using 32x920 driil bit. which rotary hammer l need? l am using DBK DB 1700-50 1700W 11KG 27J 11 kg. l would like to buy hilti te 60 but it weight only 6.4 kg and 7.3 joule. can l get the same result with the hilti te 60? thanks
I love Hilti rotry hamers
Sad to see Bosch losing consistently in a category it used to dominate and own uncontested.
Hopefully they see this and get with the times.
these rotary hammer are for different ratings, like Makita has over 8 lbft of hammer power while Milwaukee has only 5.5lbft, this Bosch has 6.1lbft but there a more powerful model 11426that has over 8 lbft, that reflects in price as well, this bosch and Milwaukee are cheapest in the pack.
They were ALL the best in class for 1-9/16 SDS Max, for each manuf. at the time
I just bought the Bosch RH540M remanufactured for $239 shipped. It didn’t score as well as the others in this test but for my occasional use it should do just fine I hope and it was affordable for me.
@@hermancmThat is great price,where did you found that deal? I used the Milwaukee one that tested here to open up concrete floor in basement for new washoom drainage, fast and easy no problem at all. your Bosch can do better.
J Lai CPO-Outlets has them for that price on eBay.
Go Makita and thats why almost every tool i own is makita!!
Can anyone tell me why the larger rotary hammers never seem to come with a depth stop bar? I've been using tape but it always gets ripped up over time.
Some don't have that stop that keeps the drill from breaking wrists if you had the stop bar in this case the would more then Likely break would be my assumption (Not to mention making a big tool bigger seems like a bad idea) again completely my opinion
Not to soh d like an ass but most professionals have a good idea how far they need to go.
will do Mr Concord i wish my employer would have told me anything i can do to save lives
Something wrong with your audio
Good review
It was a fun one
Dewalt, Makita and Bosch make the best power tools
Narex.. Hilti... Metabo....
Festool, Mafell,...
Sds max by dewalt worth it...
i am trying to spread awarness i am a carpenter who never knew that dry drilling concrete is so dangerous and can be stopped using water there is no cure for it and has killed millions of people it only takes 7 microns to cause this which can happen on 1 hole be safe use water when you can or a respirator and warn people nearby if dry drilling it doesnt just affect you but anyone within 30 feet
@jc m Help me spread this article: www.aconcordcarpenter.com/reducing-silica-dust.html
jc m I'd use an M class certified dust extractor that way everyone is safe from the dust
thats not true bc im a 13 year concrete cutter and have inhaled pletty of concrete dust and im not dead yet. it is bad for you to breathe but not as deadly as they say it is. its union scare tactics they use to mandate you to have to do something or else be fined or get fired. sometimes masks are not safe because they create oxygen deprivation to the brain and thats more damaging short term than a little dust inhalation.
I prefer milwaukee
I wonder if Rob a decade ago could have ever thought a battery could run one of these tools in so little time
Drill speed of Dewalt ???????????
+2HELNBAK 12 Amp Motor,490 rpm' 3300 bpm
I own a plus and max from hilti, makita, and Bosch. And a max fuel from Milwaukee. I tend to reach for the makitas too. My guys prefer the Hiltis for the most part, so those have taken a beating and are still great. The Bosch drills, especially the max are very disappointing, slower and heavier than the cordless tools. For the money, makita is close enough to hilti that I don’t know how to justify the cost of hilti. For coring a 4” hole in masonry from a ladder (dryer vent or fart fan) you can’t beat the makita 36v.
Mikita is now made in China. Yes, that matters : /
Hilti is the best. But the most expensive, milwaukee is very good. Durable and powerful. But bosch hammer drills are a little more powerful than milwaukee. Also more rough around the edges.. my entire platform is milwaukee however.
Correction: I bought a Milwaukee model 5317-21
After 2+ years of use, what's your opinion of the Milwaukee Rotary Hammer? Approximately how many hours of use have been put on the tool? Biggest likes and dislikes about the tool? Any reliability or maintainability issues? Based on your personal experience, if you had the choice to pick a new rotary hammer, without consideration to the battery platform, would which rotary hammer would you choose today, and why?
Makita strongs no 1
what about wearing a respirator dry drilling concrete with a respirator will kill you and anyone near by
Good point JC thanks
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You shouldnt have used the hilti te60, it has 7,8 kg -1350w, 1 kg heavier than the makita hr4013 - 1100w and bosch gbh 5-40 - 1150w. Its one class superior than the latter two. Try it against the makita hr4511 and bosch gbh 8-45 and than tell us how it goes! Anyway, its price its scary high 1500$, twice the price of the other two, not a little bit more like you said. So who wants the hilti?
Bet you're amazing
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Missing Metabo and Hitachi.
To wrap it all up don't buy a Milwaukee sds max :)
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Adam Frye that’s not advice I would heed, I have the Milwaukee SDS Max,, it’s awesome
Not good advice.
I am so sorry Milwaukee. You shouldn't be in this test Milwaukee
More demonstration and a lot less talking!
Michael Arias from Miami this was a tedious task go read the review if you need more info
Have you ever used a hammer drill in thick reinforced concrete like this testing? It is slow, tedious, noisy, dirty work. Kind of like watching a video comparison of paint brushes, followed by watching the paint drying simply to arrive at a conclusion. It is not a task well lent to exciting video compario's.
I think their approach is perfect, and glad they spared us too much valueless video.
I have the milk... therefore,, it’s best! Lol. I got t I $288. Plus I have a shit Ton o batteries,,, so.
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Great video, thanks a lot.