CORRECTION: We have edited the incorrect Wh rating on the Makita 40V battery. This did have a small change in the Efficiency ranking swapping Makita 40V and Milwaukee for 6th and 7th place. This in turn gives a 1 point difference in our final scoring, giving the Makita 40V a one point advantage over the Hilti. This results in Makita 40 being the sole second place finisher and the Hilti in 3rd.
@@riba2233sorry. But if a manufacturer publishes that info, we are going to go with it. In this instance regarding efficiency this actually hurts their score
@@jeffreydeitz5247 why would you do that if you know that that number is a marketing lie? You know well that 20/60v is a "max voltage" which is useless and not reflective of a real life, 18/54 is a true nominal voltage. Do you know that these same DeWalt packs are marked with 18/54v numbers outside of the US and have different (real) Wh numbers written on them? Don't be a victim of marketing lies, I am begging you. Thanks.
@@riba2233 If an OEM is going to inflate their numbers and label them incorrectly on their products, that 's on them. We are not some verification lab that disassembles equipment and measures values. Again, if numbers are artificially inflated, that hurts their standing and scoring in an efficiency and runtime evaluation. DeWalt would have better scoring in our evaluation if their Wh reflected the nominal voltage. We provide the results we achieve with the tools. If you have an issue with how an OEM is labeling their specs, you can take it up with them.
Had the Makita 18v for long time now and still happy with it. Even though I've used the Hilti, Milwaukee and 40V Makita, it's just a treat to use with the vacuum attachment. Lightweight for overhead drilling all day whilst still having a lot of power that doesn't hurt your joints at the end of the day. It's used 5 days a week for the past 3 years, so it has made 10.000's of holes, including daily 1 or 2 1 inch holes, sometimes through 3 feet of brick wall (not the best experience...). 95% is 6mm and 8mm holes which it is perfect for.
Still have my non-fuel 7/8 2015. Not a speed kink butt never an issue like the other m18 stuff. M12 for tapcons is one of the most stellar tools I've ever used,unfortunately it doesn't chip. Thanks fellows for the test! Have set thousands of large headed anchors for plated posts 10 yrs ago,a good tool makes it more enjoyable for sure.
I truly appreciate these reviews and trust your results. I have bought more than one power tool based on your ranking. It’s not the only data point…but a big one. Thank you!
I wish the milwaukee 1-1/8" was included or maybe even the 1-1/4" since the dewalt 60V is a 1-1/4". Would have made some great comparison on which milwaukee excells in different categories.
A handful of these brands have 1 1/4" SDS Plus rotary hammers. Bosch makes the strongest of them all (GBH18V-34C) at 4.3 ft-lbs but it's only got 500-600 RPMs so it might not be the fastest drilling. But chipping be warned!
Because thats the model that Bosch sent them . They call all these tool manufacturers and ask them if they want to send a tool to be part of their testing and they use whatever tool the company decides to send. You would think that the company would send their best model but sometimes they don't, maybe its out of stock or something, its a headscratcher for me too ....👍🖖
@@donalexey correct, that GBH18V-24C is only 7/8" , the 26C is older but it's got more power. I don't think we have received the 28C in North America with drop down motor, just the one with the D handle (which was not part of their testing criteria)
@@brianf9619 I say it is good and solid DIYer tool. I haven't used it on all kinds of wood but mostly pine and little oak. I didn't have any problems yet. I expect limitations to eventually to show up. I also didn't spend the money on Milwaukee either because Ridgid Brad nailer does meet my needs.
We had a DeWalt Flexvolt burn up and the Mwaukee ears batteries so we swapped with the 36V Metabo HPT SDS Max and plus so we could use them with the AC adapter when power is available Absolutely best decision we could have made Saves batteries and need for less for big jobs Especially for chipping concrete All 4 of our MHPT rotary hammers have been beat to hell and still charging
The Milwaukee kills their batteries like damaged with vibration there's no protection there. You can hit hard but if you kill the battery that's no good
@@WillBlock-n9j there's a 1 1/4" SDS Plus Profactor that would give that DeWalt Flexvolt a run for its money. 4.3 ft-lbs of impact force is the most you can get on a cordless SDS Plus nowadays. But they chose to get the much lighter 7/8" Bulldog instead.
Love my dewalt flexvolt. It is a workhorse rotary hammer and it can run all day with swapping batteries. It does not overheat. The 60v is what really helps with that. It is as actually rated as 1 1/4". I also have 5/8" atomic (no chipping option) the 1" flex 24v and a monster 2" flexvolt sds max
I need to chip loose concrete and effervescence off a mortar/stone basement wall before applying new cement. Which of these would be the best for this project?
4:29 some of your performance tests seem to be in the wrong column. Hilti 3/8" (9.5mm) is 15% slower (7s vs 5.5s) than Hilti 1/2" (12.7mm). Metabo HPT 36 has 44s for both 1/2" and 1". Makita 18 gets faster as drill size increases (looks to have 1/4" and 1/2" swapped). Even Milwaukee 3/8" and 1/2" looks swapped. If not, then your test method has too much variance. I'm guessing you had 1 person do all 5 holes for a drill + bit combo, then swapped. You should have had 5 different people do 1 of each combo.
@@MrArcticPOWER we replaced the tape dozens of times during the test as well as brushed off the dust. Not every video clip shows that. We also used the depth rods. Not sure what you would suggest we do after that.
Nice observation there, in curious to see if on the Metabo hpt 44.04 is an error in that column under 1/2 makes sense on the 1 inch speed maybe an error on data input on the chart.
These sort of tests are so intereting across all the brands. Will you be doing a similair test with their bigger models that have larger impact forces eg >5 J to see if the rankings are similair or different and then cover SDS max. Would be interesting to see what the difference is between cheap drill bits and then name brand as well
Strange selection of tools. You compare different classes of SDS-hammers. Most of them Blow Energy [Ft-Lbs] - 1.9, but some are lower, and some are waay higher. Like Dewalt Blow Energy [Ft-Lbs] - 4.5! Of course it will be the fastest in chipping. Bosch has even more powerful SDS-Plus rotary hammer, probably it would win the contest. But here only the model with Blow Energy [Ft-Lbs] - 1.8 is present. The size and weight are the 2 most important parameters in this category, because almost every manufacturer has more powerful models.
@@ConcordCarpenter A lot of tools are from 1-1/8 and some 1-1/4 category. There is an enormous difference in size, weight and, of course, power between them. For example, BOSCH GBH18V-34CQN falls into 1-1/4 In. Rotary Hammer category and it is huge compared to 18V-24.
Not all tools had the 1" size available. As I mentioned in the video the range was 7/8 to 1-1/8. Tool companies would rather be in the comparison then not @@donalexey
Finally, someone point's the strange selection of tools, the absence of some very completive tools and the most important parameters in this category. I like the this particular youtube channel, BUT this test is NOT OK it looks biased. It seems to me that the last 3-5 years youtube tool channels from USA seem to have a big problem (or the opposite) with a particular (non Chinese owned) BIG European firm (historically the motherload of concrete construction tools technology). Something is going wrong in the US and EU markets of tools and the promo channels.
They used the 85 battery from Hilti.. Would Recomend using the 170 battery on that machine.. Yes it´s heavier but you get more power-output on the drill! But a great test boys! Keep up the good work!
As a self-employed gardener, I use an SDS drill for breaking concrete predominantly. Though it can be a pain being corded, my Titan gives 8 J's of impact, and only cost £50! When will battery powered equipment catch up with power and price?
As someone who owns Kobalt, I think it belongs in last place on this list. It is a great little rotary hammer for small jobs but it is prosumer at best. If Kobalt were to release and XTR version I’m sure it would bring the beans, but the baseline model leaves a lot to be desired.
Rob, who would you say has the best overhead or up high wall drilling sds for 3/8-5/16 holes? Like a power to weight ratio winner? If you drilling holes all day up high, which drill would you reach for?
@philwort1873 they're usually the same motor and mechanism, just repackaged. I'm guessing Rob likes them because they have more reach and centre of gravity is inline with handle, so they don't fall forward as much. For sub 1/2", you may as well go for the lightest you can find. Makita DHR173 and Dewalt DCH172 are both very good. If you want a bit more power and hammer-only mode, then Makita DHR182 or HR010G are your best options. The channel Boltah Downunder has a tonne of tests on smaller rotohammers if you're interested.
Given the hole size you are talking about I would go for the 12v Dewalt (DCH072B). It is extremely light weight, and still much faster than a hammer drill. Not to mention a lot quieter than a hammer drill.
@@pgeorg01 I owned the DCH172B 20V Atomic and it adds some impact force + vibration control and slightly more drilling capacity (9/16" to 5/8") over the 12V Xtreme without adding much weight nor price. Also the 20V lineup being way more diverse (+200 tools) than their 12V lineup (~20 tools)
Im torn between the Milwaukee and ridgid. Right now the 2912 fuel comes with a free forge 8.0 for 279 while the ridgid is at normal price 269 with a free 4 ah. The LSA is a big selling point. Already ordered the m18 but i wonder about it's longevity as the ridgid is covered for life ya know?
@shanerogers787 sometimes I may talk a bit too much. My family calls me "Too technical" which is what my channel is about lol I just added the L so people looking for tool videos can find me a bit easier :) ~ Work smart
Theres something wrong with the performance chart. The metabo hpt 36v 1/2 inch is way high and is identical to the 1 inch. Maybe inputted the 1 inch data into the 1/2 inch category?
This video helped me out a lot I have both Milwaukee and DeWalt battery platforms and I have been trying to find out which SDS hammer to get now I know which one I’m going to get and that’s the Milwaukee
I bought Brand X so Brand X is the best ;-) Seriously though,I think it is great the way the manufacturers are now engaged in this competitive innovation. The kind of arms race where we all win! Great testing system covering all the performance basics. Do they still sell German Metabo in the US or is it Metabo HPT(Hitachi Power Tools) now? One thing you might want to mention in future similar reviews is how good the carry case is. For me,a poorly thought out case is a deal breaker as it's like a kick in the nuts every time you reach for that tool.Great to have plenty of room for all your main SDS bits and chisels in one box with at least 1 spare battery,a charger and room for a few consumables.Anything less is annoying IMO. Don't think it was in your test but I;ve got a Metabo KHA 18 LTX BL24 Quick rotary hammer which is half the size of some of those so great in tight spaces under joists in old stonebuilt houses and really packs a punch(24mm) but is light enough to be used 1 handed for 7mm holes to fixing skirting(baseboard) to masonry with the dustbox over finished floors. It perfectly bridges the gap between combi drills and bigger SDS Max IMO. Another really useful feature is the supplied quick release metal keyless chuck for normal wood and metal drilling.Way better than adding another chuck into the SDS chuck. It has enough torque to spin big wood augers and wind in big coachscrews (lag bolts) for heavy timber construction and can be gentle enough to drive 2" woodscrews freeing up the drill and impact driver for someone else if necessary.
Glad to hear it!@@EliotTrueloveBet u £100 Metabo thought of it first-they've had the Quick 2 chuck swap system for at least 18 years on their SDS drills and 10+ years on the combi drills with a magnetic hex recess in the end of the spindle for screwdriving in confined spaces and for swapping the chuck for the supplied QR hexbit holder. I just hope those German dudes stay at the forefront of innovation instead of selling out now they've been bought out by Hitachi/HiKoki !! 🙂
thre are a few brands that offer the quick change metal chuck along the SDS Plus Chuck like Flex, Bosch, Makita and as you mentioned Metabo. But only Bosch offers the 1st ever SDS Plus multi function chuck that can also hold regular rounded bits for wood and metal. It's the GBH187Li, it looks almost the same as the rotary hammer they tested here but that feature is super handy and you'll never need to carry additional chucks in your tool box
WOW so many comments arguing these results. I think the best is the one that the person prefers. For myself it would be durability and longevity vs speed.
I noticed you compared the initial XGT hammer drill and not the newer, lighter, more powerful GRH10. You also used an older brushed 36v model. Seems a bit unfair. I wonder how the latest offerings would compare.
Your site, Toolboxbuzz, the review on it. The GRH10 is a more compact model than the 01, and the bit size is 13/16" and is faster than the 01 model for sizes up to that. The second gen 1" plus model I actually remembered was the GRH08 and GRH09 (the 08 with interchangeable chuck). The second gen is a 1 3/16" model (the first gen 01 is a 1 1/8") and has 3.9 joules of impact energy (3.2 joules for the 01) with a mass concrete core but capacity of 3 1/8" ( 2 9/16" for the 01). What I'm getting at is the 01 is a few years old now and is the XGT first gen versus the Milwaukee Second Gen. It should be apples to apples of each second Gen with the GRH08 model versus the M18 2912-20.
Is Metabo Hpt 36 volt really that bad as shown ? I am considering buying an Hikoki DH36DPA which is currently on sale for 250€ it looks like really nice tool but this video made me worried, should I go for Makita xgt lineup instead of hikoki 36v multivolt
Right now I have the M18 hammer drill and the 1-3/4" Milwaukee rotary hammer in battery (not recommended) and corded versions. As a handyman, I've used the big'un for demo and driving big anchors. If I were to buy another lighter, more portable rotary hammer, which option would make the most sense in the greatest # of applications (my job types are so varied)? Should I go with the little M12 RH for small holes and leave the rest for the 1-3/4" heavy beast, or get a 1" M18 RH for more power without all the weight? I'm trying to avoid gaps in the types of jobs I can do. Anyone have experience with multiple sizes of rotary hammers and what they would recommend?
Great test and great information as always thank you rob and team have to say That Dewalt 60v has no place in this test lol clearly not a 1 “ or 1 1/8” maybe 1 1/4”? And still didn’t come 1st ?!
also I don't understand makita prices in the US lol, this makita XGT is around 250usd in EU, almost 2.4x cheaper, really incredible... it would be 4th cheapest in this test lol
Would be nice if you ran 21700 cell batteries for every unit as these drills demand significant power. In order to receive best performance the ridgid should have been using an 8ah and it would have done so much better
@ConcordCarpenter how is what i said not realistic? You used a pitiful 18650 4ah battery in a high demanding tool. 🤣 anyone with a brain knows that batteries with 21700 cells deliver more power and speed to tools than 18650 batteries do. As a professional plumber, l would never in my life reach for anything less than an 8ah when using something like a rotary hammer. And since the objective is to find out which hammer is the best, it should go without saying that you'd connect a battery which would allow the tool to perform at its maximum capabilities. I mean you went ahead and used a flexvolt battery in the Dewalt tool didn't you? So realistically, the fact of the mattered is you really only left those of us who actually know a thing or two about power tools wondering what the results would have been had you tested the tools at the very best of their abilities.
Ahh I see your point now. the one tool that comes to mind is the Makita 18 volt. That tool sells as a kit with a 5 ah battery - but unfortunately, our reality is that Makita always sends their tools last minute [at or after our deadline] and often without batteries. So we tested it with what we had - 4.0 ah battery. Now with regard to you grabbing an 8 ah battery - that's user preference and experience. Most manufacturers offer these rotary hammers in kit form, bundling the tool with a battery optimized for performance while maintaining a manageable weight. Achieving the best user experience hinges on finding the right balance between weight, balance, and power to accomplish tasks efficiently. With so many tools, battery voltages and sizes, we normalized run-time and investigated the efficiency of the tools energy available. Obviously some battery packs contain much more potential energy so it's important to try and compare them based on the "size of the fuel tank". @@mattek519
@@mattek519 You're completely clueless if you think that a 1" SDS is a "high demand" tool. If it was the case, why does most of them are kitted with a 5ah battery? These tools will pull 30 amps max in normal conditions, wich is nothing for a 2p 18650 battery.
You might want to check your math, you have used a mixture of nominal and max voltages for some of the calculations. For example the Makita XGT is 40v Max but 36v nominal, the Makita LXT is 18v nominal. Your calculations need to use the same voltage measure to make it a fair comparison.
Makita USA’s pricing is all over the place. The 40v in EU ranges between 200-300euros depending on the model. How the price gets doubled for the US market is just another part of Makita USA’s failure to compete with Milwaukee and Dewalt. Or maybe they’re just giving up and choosing to focus on their domestic market, Asia pacific and EU. When your tool costs more than Hilti you know it’s a problem.
great test as usual, thanks! dewalt 60v looks really powerful, but it is not in the same category as makita 40v, it is closer to something like GRH08 lets say :) too big imho (also a small nitpick for Wh table, makita 4ah 40v battery is 144Wh, not 160, same for dewalt 20 and 60 which are 90 and 162, kobalt 86.4 etc, marketing voltage is just a gimmick. for eg this would put dewalt 20 in the first place)
Looking how hard the dude pushed the Milwaukee in the speed test,compared to the other, clearly makes a speed test without a simpel weight of pressure pretty pointless. A sled with weight pulley would be much more proper way to make the speed test.
That’s actually not true every tool performs differently and has their own sweet spot. Some tools work better if you apply more pressure some tools work better if you let the tool do the work. That being said, their reviews are unbiased Rob runs Makita out of his van and he started with Makita as a carpenter. So there’s no incentive to give one tool a edge over the other.
@@steffendetrick I do trust Rob, but all the other guys testing I'm not sure. That being said, I don't think it made much difference in the end. If you've ever used a SDS, you know how little difference it makes, if any at all. A hammer drill is more a chisel than a drill, and pushing hard on a chisel before striking it with a hammer wouldn't make any difference.
@MrArcticPOWER I used to think that, too. But Boltah Downunder showed that pushing harder does drill faster. Search for "Pressing too hard drilling with SDS rotary hammer". It's unfortunately not weighted and didn't keep going to see where the minimum is.
4:07 is definitely pushing Milwaukee hard - he fully compresses the shock absorber! But we don't really see the others, so hard to know. I agree that a sled would have been better. Milwaukee is still likely to win as they prioritise performance. Having good vibration damping like Makita/Hilti/Bosch, might mean sacrificing some performance.
Its asking a lot but the best way would be a manual free hand test and a weighted test. If the results don't match then you know that the specific weight that was used favored some tools over others.@@steffendetrick
I bought the Makita 40V HR010 rated to 20mm 3 weeks ago. I drilled a series of 16mm holes, 36, over 3 days and it packed it in. Now the rep in my home state is saying that I need to upgrade to larger drill. So, he is saying in other words that the drill doesn't live up to the rated capacity, because the upgraded capacity of the rotary he is recommending is 30mm. Makita have refused to replace it, even though it didn't even last 2 weeks. I'll never buy Makita anything again and should have stuck to my Milwaukee platform.
Hei, this test seems like a Milwaukee advertisement, because only Milwaukee consistently ranks high across all hole size, while the other brands have vastly different rankings at different holes.It's suspicious that Milwaukee is the only one with a consistent performance.
I had the milwaukee it really sucked . Never worked . Took it to the shop 4 times then finally sent it to milwaukee 3 times . They sent it so someone else and then they sent me a new one it worked 3 months then I just tossed it in the trash . That’s a lot of money to throw away . That was the worst milwaukee tool I ever bought .
@@ggrimm79 never got to use the tool because it never worked . It was the largest sds they made . For the first 2 1/2 years it was at milwaukee trying to get it to work . I finally gave up it was just not worth my time to deal with milwaukee .
Makita’s auxiliary handles are the worst. You spend more time fiddling with the handle than you do drilling the holes. When the Nuron came in, the XGT went out the door.
comparing cheap and expensive doesn't make any sense. You should give weight to cheaper and smaller. Based on your theory, boxing should be one class...no heavy or light class...
Love the videos, been watching for years, but I’ve contained my rage long enough… Your scoring system is absurdly illogical and over complicated. Complete BS.
@@ConcordCarpenter May I suggest? You could divide the final rating into several categories and give every category some weight in the final score. The score in every category could be normalized to 10 (for example). And you give points for being good. For example, holes per charge. The fastest gets 10 points and the other gets % of the holes drilled. So, if 2 are similarly close (like 245 and 240 holes) they don't get 1 and 2 place, but rather 10 and 10 points in that category, because they are basically the same. Also, you definitely should include not only power, but other parameters like vibration for hammer drills which is very important for prolonged use of hammer drill. Hope it helps. Don't hesitate to ask if you need help to define the scoring system.
This is not a true test. Just an odd line up of rotaries. Dewalt dch416, should have been the dch293. Metabo KH 18 LTX BL 28 Q, should been the kh 18 LTX BL 24. Not comparing apples with apples. This test is comparing apples to oranges.
CORRECTION: We have edited the incorrect Wh rating on the Makita 40V battery. This did have a small change in the Efficiency ranking swapping Makita 40V and Milwaukee for 6th and 7th place. This in turn gives a 1 point difference in our final scoring, giving the Makita 40V a one point advantage over the Hilti. This results in Makita 40 being the sole second place finisher and the Hilti in 3rd.
Didn't the Hilti and ridgid tie?
dewalt Ah are also wrong, they lie on the pack. The use max values, 20 and 60 instead of 18 and 54 so the Wh numbers are also wrong unfortunately :|
@@riba2233sorry. But if a manufacturer publishes that info, we are going to go with it. In this instance regarding efficiency this actually hurts their score
@@jeffreydeitz5247 why would you do that if you know that that number is a marketing lie? You know well that 20/60v is a "max voltage" which is useless and not reflective of a real life, 18/54 is a true nominal voltage. Do you know that these same DeWalt packs are marked with 18/54v numbers outside of the US and have different (real) Wh numbers written on them? Don't be a victim of marketing lies, I am begging you. Thanks.
@@riba2233 If an OEM is going to inflate their numbers and label them incorrectly on their products, that 's on them. We are not some verification lab that disassembles equipment and measures values. Again, if numbers are artificially inflated, that hurts their standing and scoring in an efficiency and runtime evaluation. DeWalt would have better scoring in our evaluation if their Wh reflected the nominal voltage. We provide the results we achieve with the tools. If you have an issue with how an OEM is labeling their specs, you can take it up with them.
Had the Makita 18v for long time now and still happy with it. Even though I've used the Hilti, Milwaukee and 40V Makita, it's just a treat to use with the vacuum attachment. Lightweight for overhead drilling all day whilst still having a lot of power that doesn't hurt your joints at the end of the day. It's used 5 days a week for the past 3 years, so it has made 10.000's of holes, including daily 1 or 2 1 inch holes, sometimes through 3 feet of brick wall (not the best experience...). 95% is 6mm and 8mm holes which it is perfect for.
I have one too - it’s reliable!
Still have my non-fuel 7/8 2015. Not a speed kink butt never an issue like the other m18 stuff.
M12 for tapcons is one of the most stellar tools I've ever used,unfortunately it doesn't chip.
Thanks fellows for the test!
Have set thousands of large headed anchors for plated posts 10 yrs ago,a good tool makes it more enjoyable for sure.
Been looking forward to this one! Thanks Rob and crew for continuing to make these videos!
Will your team do a SDS max head to head?
You guys do the best head2heads. I find you to be the best and most serious testers. Your methods are consistent, accurate and very well thought out
Awesome, thank you!
I truly appreciate these reviews and trust your results. I have bought more than one power tool based on your ranking. It’s not the only data point…but a big one. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing
Hilti is very underrated for their ergonomics. Very comfortable tools
Well we’ll never know cus they are so expensive
What I understand with hilti ya don't buy them you are hiring them
Dude the Hilti is👌👌👌
@@Sgten01you get what you pay for with Hilti brother
@@IMPACT-NATION You know it
Brother!! 🔥
6:50 the Makita 2x18V that you tested is a brushed tool, which is why it's much less efficient than the 18V
yeah it is weird that they provided him with that one, makita US is really weird lol
@@riba2233 Makita JP is confusing, but Makita USA is just bonkers. I think it goes a long way in explaining Makita's poor standing there.
@@toolscientist yep 100%
@@toolscientist and Makita makes fragile tools….
@@toolscientist also I don't understand makita prices in the US lol, this makita XGT is around 250usd in EU, almost 2.4x cheaper, really incredible...
I need this head to head. I'm looking to replace my sds max. It fills fine, but way too much vibration.
Good video and article.
Thank you.
Makita xgt 40v max has a D handle 1 1/8 for $319. Much more bang for my dollar.
Got the flexvolt SDS MAX gun, such a beast. No 18v/36v/40v can compete. Chipping concrete and using a clay spade around utilities
Какая зверюга!Это котенок по сравнению с макита 80в!!!
I wish the milwaukee 1-1/8" was included or maybe even the 1-1/4" since the dewalt 60V is a 1-1/4". Would have made some great comparison on which milwaukee excells in different categories.
That would be cool
Different class of SDS we were testing the more commonly sold 1” range
A handful of these brands have 1 1/4" SDS Plus rotary hammers. Bosch makes the strongest of them all (GBH18V-34C) at 4.3 ft-lbs but it's only got 500-600 RPMs so it might not be the fastest drilling. But chipping be warned!
Why would you use that model from Bosch when there’s a better drill from them that meets the criteria for this test?
Because thats the model that Bosch sent them . They call all these tool manufacturers and ask them if they want to send a tool to be part of their testing and they use whatever tool the company decides to send. You would think that the company would send their best model but sometimes they don't, maybe its out of stock or something, its a headscratcher for me too ....👍🖖
Do they have a better 1” sds?
@@ConcordCarpenter Yes, they have a lot of better models. 18V-26, 18V-28 with D handle and without, 18V-34 just to name a few.
Yeah, that would have been the far better choice 18V-34CF 5.8J. Kinda unfair match up there. @@donalexey
@@donalexey correct, that GBH18V-24C is only 7/8" , the 26C is older but it's got more power. I don't think we have received the 28C in North America with drop down motor, just the one with the D handle (which was not part of their testing criteria)
I love my DeWalt sds 20v and 12v is awesome for smaller stuff super handy
I just got an Ridgid sds rotary hammer and like it. great job as always and thank you!!!!
Your obviously a Ridgid guy , is their 18v 18GA Brad Nailer any good ??
@@brianf9619 I say it is good and solid DIYer tool. I haven't used it on all kinds of wood but mostly pine and little oak. I didn't have any problems yet. I expect limitations to eventually to show up. I also didn't spend the money on Milwaukee either because Ridgid Brad nailer does meet my needs.
We had a DeWalt Flexvolt burn up and the Mwaukee ears batteries so we swapped with the 36V Metabo HPT SDS Max and plus so we could use them with the AC adapter when power is available
Absolutely best decision we could have made
Saves batteries and need for less for big jobs
Especially for chipping concrete
All 4 of our MHPT rotary hammers have been beat to hell and still charging
the bosch sds plus is durable as well-just not as fast
The Milwaukee kills their batteries like damaged with vibration there's no protection there. You can hit hard but if you kill the battery that's no good
Great info - thanks for commenting
@@WillBlock-n9j there's a 1 1/4" SDS Plus Profactor that would give that DeWalt Flexvolt a run for its money. 4.3 ft-lbs of impact force is the most you can get on a cordless SDS Plus nowadays. But they chose to get the much lighter 7/8" Bulldog instead.
Love my dewalt flexvolt. It is a workhorse rotary hammer and it can run all day with swapping batteries. It does not overheat. The 60v is what really helps with that. It is as actually rated as 1 1/4". I also have 5/8" atomic (no chipping option) the 1" flex 24v and a monster 2" flexvolt sds max
This needs more views! Awesome video
I need to chip loose concrete and effervescence off a mortar/stone basement wall before applying new cement. Which of these would be the best for this project?
4:29 some of your performance tests seem to be in the wrong column. Hilti 3/8" (9.5mm) is 15% slower (7s vs 5.5s) than Hilti 1/2" (12.7mm). Metabo HPT 36 has 44s for both 1/2" and 1". Makita 18 gets faster as drill size increases (looks to have 1/4" and 1/2" swapped).
Even Milwaukee 3/8" and 1/2" looks swapped. If not, then your test method has too much variance. I'm guessing you had 1 person do all 5 holes for a drill + bit combo, then swapped. You should have had 5 different people do 1 of each combo.
Using a piece of tape as a guide when it's covered by the dust seemed a bit weird to me. Definitely could've been more precise.
Yeah cuz the tape starts to tear and the tape gets shorter and shorter you think you're still hitting the the 3" mark 😂
@@MrArcticPOWER we replaced the tape dozens of times during the test as well as brushed off the dust. Not every video clip shows that. We also used the depth rods.
Not sure what you would suggest we do after that.
@@aetorres7422 tape was replaced when it started to wear
Nice observation there, in curious to see if on the Metabo hpt 44.04 is an error in that column under 1/2 makes sense on the 1 inch speed maybe an error on data input on the chart.
Nice, didn't expect this one so soon
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@ConcordCarpenter sure did, as usual, thanks :)
Did your guy have the 18V hikoki in low speed mode?? Hikoki/Metabo HPT hammers have a like 70% speed setting
These sort of tests are so intereting across all the brands. Will you be doing a similair test with their bigger models that have larger impact forces eg >5 J to see if the rankings are similair or different and then cover SDS max. Would be interesting to see what the difference is between cheap drill bits and then name brand as well
Really thinking about making the jump to makita 40v..
You won't regret it! Although some prices in the US are weird, much better pricing in the EU
When I have the money that’s where it will go. Have many 18 v makita stuff now
Nice tools but expensive in the US
Fantastic tool - I run one in my van
Strange selection of tools. You compare different classes of SDS-hammers. Most of them Blow Energy [Ft-Lbs] - 1.9, but some are lower, and some are waay higher. Like Dewalt Blow Energy [Ft-Lbs] - 4.5! Of course it will be the fastest in chipping. Bosch has even more powerful SDS-Plus rotary hammer, probably it would win the contest. But here only the model with Blow Energy [Ft-Lbs] - 1.8 is present. The size and weight are the 2 most important parameters in this category, because almost every manufacturer has more powerful models.
We compared tools that fall I to the 1” sds-plus category range
@@ConcordCarpenter A lot of tools are from 1-1/8 and some 1-1/4 category. There is an enormous difference in size, weight and, of course, power between them. For example, BOSCH GBH18V-34CQN falls into 1-1/4 In. Rotary Hammer category and it is huge compared to 18V-24.
Not all tools had the 1" size available. As I mentioned in the video the range was 7/8 to 1-1/8. Tool companies would rather be in the comparison then not @@donalexey
Finally, someone point's the strange selection of tools, the absence of some very completive tools and the most important parameters in this category.
I like the this particular youtube channel, BUT this test is NOT OK it looks biased.
It seems to me that the last 3-5 years youtube tool channels from USA seem to have a big problem (or the opposite) with a particular (non Chinese owned) BIG European firm (historically the motherload of concrete construction tools technology).
Something is going wrong in the US and EU markets of tools and the promo channels.
I'm going with the Metabo HPT
They used the 85 battery from Hilti.. Would Recomend using the 170 battery on that machine.. Yes it´s heavier but you get more power-output on the drill! But a great test boys! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing - this is the battery Hilti recommends
As a self-employed gardener, I use an SDS drill for breaking concrete predominantly. Though it can be a pain being corded, my Titan gives 8 J's of impact, and only cost £50! When will battery powered equipment catch up with power and price?
Price is the catch.
As someone who owns Kobalt, I think it belongs in last place on this list. It is a great little rotary hammer for small jobs but it is prosumer at best. If Kobalt were to release and XTR version I’m sure it would bring the beans, but the baseline model leaves a lot to be desired.
Thanks for your feedback on it
Rob, who would you say has the best overhead or up high wall drilling sds for 3/8-5/16 holes? Like a power to weight ratio winner? If you drilling holes all day up high, which drill would you reach for?
Overhead I’d look at a D-handle hammer drill
@@ConcordCarpenter interesting, are they generally lighter but less powerful? Sounds like another head to head category 🤣
@philwort1873 they're usually the same motor and mechanism, just repackaged. I'm guessing Rob likes them because they have more reach and centre of gravity is inline with handle, so they don't fall forward as much.
For sub 1/2", you may as well go for the lightest you can find. Makita DHR173 and Dewalt DCH172 are both very good. If you want a bit more power and hammer-only mode, then Makita DHR182 or HR010G are your best options. The channel Boltah Downunder has a tonne of tests on smaller rotohammers if you're interested.
Given the hole size you are talking about I would go for the 12v Dewalt (DCH072B). It is extremely light weight, and still much faster than a hammer drill. Not to mention a lot quieter than a hammer drill.
@@pgeorg01 I owned the DCH172B 20V Atomic and it adds some impact force + vibration control and slightly more drilling capacity (9/16" to 5/8") over the 12V Xtreme without adding much weight nor price. Also the 20V lineup being way more diverse (+200 tools) than their 12V lineup (~20 tools)
Im torn between the Milwaukee and ridgid. Right now the 2912 fuel comes with a free forge 8.0 for 279 while the ridgid is at normal price 269 with a free 4 ah. The LSA is a big selling point. Already ordered the m18 but i wonder about it's longevity as the ridgid is covered for life ya know?
I bought the Milwaukee on that deal. It comes today. I’m hoping I made the right choice. I was looking at the 20v dewalt xr but chose Milwaukee.
@shanerogers787 same mine is coming today 👍🏼, another selling point was the hammer vac attachment you can get for like 170$
@@TOOL_TECHNICALI didn’t even see that. Man thanks for telling me. I wasn’t even thinking about that.
@shanerogers787 sometimes I may talk a bit too much. My family calls me "Too technical" which is what my channel is about lol I just added the L so people looking for tool videos can find me a bit easier :)
~ Work smart
Theres something wrong with the performance chart. The metabo hpt 36v 1/2 inch is way high and is identical to the 1 inch. Maybe inputted the 1 inch data into the 1/2 inch category?
I'm looking for a commercial grade hammer drill for a granite outcrop - 5feet thick, 10' in diameter for pouring Dexpan. Suggestions?
This video helped me out a lot I have both Milwaukee and DeWalt battery platforms and I have been trying to find out which SDS hammer to get now I know which one I’m going to get and that’s the Milwaukee
I bought Brand X so Brand X is the best ;-)
Seriously though,I think it is great the way the manufacturers are now engaged in this competitive innovation.
The kind of arms race where we all win!
Great testing system covering all the performance basics.
Do they still sell German Metabo in the US or is it Metabo HPT(Hitachi Power Tools) now?
One thing you might want to mention in future similar reviews is how good the carry case is.
For me,a poorly thought out case is a deal breaker as it's like a kick in the nuts every time you reach for that tool.Great to have plenty of room for all your main SDS bits and chisels in one box with at least 1 spare battery,a charger and room for a few consumables.Anything less is annoying IMO.
Don't think it was in your test but I;ve got a Metabo KHA 18 LTX BL24 Quick rotary hammer which is half the size of some of those so great in tight spaces under joists in old stonebuilt houses and really packs a punch(24mm) but is light enough to be used 1 handed for 7mm holes to fixing skirting(baseboard) to masonry with the dustbox over finished floors.
It perfectly bridges the gap between combi drills and bigger SDS Max IMO.
Another really useful feature is the supplied quick release metal keyless chuck for normal wood and metal drilling.Way better than adding another chuck into the SDS chuck.
It has enough torque to spin big wood augers and wind in big coachscrews (lag bolts) for heavy timber construction and can be gentle enough to drive 2" woodscrews freeing up the drill and impact driver for someone else if necessary.
Good point one he secondary chuck - Metabo does that
Makitas 40v model GRH09 has an interchangeable chuck as well
Glad to hear it!@@EliotTrueloveBet u £100 Metabo thought of it first-they've had the Quick 2 chuck swap system for at least 18 years on their SDS drills and 10+ years on the combi drills with a magnetic hex recess in the end of the spindle for screwdriving in confined spaces and for swapping the chuck for the supplied QR hexbit holder. I just hope those German dudes stay at the forefront of innovation instead of selling out now they've been bought out by Hitachi/HiKoki !! 🙂
thre are a few brands that offer the quick change metal chuck along the SDS Plus Chuck like Flex, Bosch, Makita and as you mentioned Metabo.
But only Bosch offers the 1st ever SDS Plus multi function chuck that can also hold regular rounded bits for wood and metal. It's the GBH187Li, it looks almost the same as the rotary hammer they tested here but that feature is super handy and you'll never need to carry additional chucks in your tool box
Did each drill have its own new bit or were the bits shared?
Newbits
Isn’t the 9ah on the dewalt flex batteries for the 20v mode? So then what would it be for the 60v? I think they intentionally try to confuse…
The flexvolt battery says right on it 20v/60v Max (18v/54v nominal) 9.0ah/3.0ah Wouldn’t that change how it stacks up?
WOW so many comments arguing these results. I think the best is the one that the person prefers. For myself it would be durability and longevity vs speed.
I noticed you compared the initial XGT hammer drill and not the newer, lighter, more powerful GRH10. You also used an older brushed 36v model. Seems a bit unfair. I wonder how the latest offerings would compare.
We tested the GRH10
@@ConcordCarpenter it says GRH01 on the site
The 40v is the GRH10 - where did you see it. What site?
Your site, Toolboxbuzz, the review on it.
The GRH10 is a more compact model than the 01, and the bit size is 13/16" and is faster than the 01 model for sizes up to that.
The second gen 1" plus model I actually remembered was the GRH08 and GRH09 (the 08 with interchangeable chuck).
The second gen is a 1 3/16" model (the first gen 01 is a 1 1/8") and has 3.9 joules of impact energy (3.2 joules for the 01) with a mass concrete core but capacity of 3 1/8" ( 2 9/16" for the 01).
What I'm getting at is the 01 is a few years old now and is the XGT first gen versus the Milwaukee Second Gen. It should be apples to apples of each second Gen with the GRH08 model versus the M18 2912-20.
OK - sorry I misunderstood you. We asked and tested the 1" SDW-PLUS range, thats why we tested the 01 XGT. @@EliotTruelove
Is Metabo Hpt 36 volt really that bad as shown ? I am considering buying an Hikoki DH36DPA which is currently on sale for 250€ it looks like really nice tool but this video made me worried, should I go for Makita xgt lineup instead of hikoki 36v multivolt
Right now I have the M18 hammer drill and the 1-3/4" Milwaukee rotary hammer in battery (not recommended) and corded versions. As a handyman, I've used the big'un for demo and driving big anchors.
If I were to buy another lighter, more portable rotary hammer, which option would make the most sense in the greatest # of applications (my job types are so varied)?
Should I go with the little M12 RH for small holes and leave the rest for the 1-3/4" heavy beast, or get a 1" M18 RH for more power without all the weight? I'm trying to avoid gaps in the types of jobs I can do.
Anyone have experience with multiple sizes of rotary hammers and what they would recommend?
Great test and great information as always thank you rob and team have to say That Dewalt 60v has no place in this test lol clearly not a 1 “ or 1 1/8” maybe 1 1/4”? And still didn’t come 1st ?!
True, that one needs to be put head to head with Milwaukee, Bosch and Makita's 1 1/4" SDS Plus rotary hammers. It just doesn't belong here
also I don't understand makita prices in the US lol, this makita XGT is around 250usd in EU, almost 2.4x cheaper, really incredible... it would be 4th cheapest in this test lol
I imported my XGT from the UK for that reason. All of their SDs plus are half the price there.
@@robertrada4783 yep, really weird
Lot of price difference between UK vs US .
Thank you for your well done video comparison.
Would be nice if you ran 21700 cell batteries for every unit as these drills demand significant power.
In order to receive best performance the ridgid should have been using an 8ah and it would have done so much better
Rainbows and butterflies would be nice too - please be realistic
@ConcordCarpenter how is what i said not realistic? You used a pitiful 18650 4ah battery in a high demanding tool. 🤣 anyone with a brain knows that batteries with 21700 cells deliver more power and speed to tools than 18650 batteries do. As a professional plumber, l would never in my life reach for anything less than an 8ah when using something like a rotary hammer.
And since the objective is to find out which hammer is the best, it should go without saying that you'd connect a battery which would allow the tool to perform at its maximum capabilities.
I mean you went ahead and used a flexvolt battery in the Dewalt tool didn't you?
So realistically, the fact of the mattered is you really only left those of us who actually know a thing or two about power tools wondering what the results would have been had you tested the tools at the very best of their abilities.
Ahh I see your point now. the one tool that comes to mind is the Makita 18 volt. That tool sells as a kit with a 5 ah battery - but unfortunately, our reality is that Makita always sends their tools last minute [at or after our deadline] and often without batteries. So we tested it with what we had - 4.0 ah battery.
Now with regard to you grabbing an 8 ah battery - that's user preference and experience. Most manufacturers offer these rotary hammers in kit form, bundling the tool with a battery optimized for performance while maintaining a manageable weight. Achieving the best user experience hinges on finding the right balance between weight, balance, and power to accomplish tasks efficiently.
With so many tools, battery voltages and sizes, we normalized run-time and investigated the efficiency of the tools energy available. Obviously some battery packs contain much more potential energy so it's important to try and compare them based on the "size of the fuel tank". @@mattek519
@@mattek519 You're completely clueless if you think that a 1" SDS is a "high demand" tool. If it was the case, why does most of them are kitted with a 5ah battery? These tools will pull 30 amps max in normal conditions, wich is nothing for a 2p 18650 battery.
@@MrArcticPOWER you must be drilling through unsealed grout 🤣
You guys should have included harbor freights tools from Hercules and Bauer if possible as well!
You might want to check your math, you have used a mixture of nominal and max voltages for some of the calculations. For example the Makita XGT is 40v Max but 36v nominal, the Makita LXT is 18v nominal. Your calculations need to use the same voltage measure to make it a fair comparison.
Good catch will make adjustments - thanks
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DCH273?? theres 293 why do you pick 273, that is obvious a step lower.
I wasnt aware there wqas a better option, I guess the Dewalt marketing folks didnt consult their product manager
even the dch133 is both stronger AND cheaper, by FAR@@ConcordCarpenter
@@chucknorris2952 true but that's a D-Handle
going to have to call up tod and have him do a rotary hammer comparison.
Makita USA’s pricing is all over the place. The 40v in EU ranges between 200-300euros depending on the model. How the price gets doubled for the US market is just another part of Makita USA’s failure to compete with Milwaukee and Dewalt. Or maybe they’re just giving up and choosing to focus on their domestic market, Asia pacific and EU. When your tool costs more than Hilti you know it’s a problem.
As always great job
great test as usual, thanks! dewalt 60v looks really powerful, but it is not in the same category as makita 40v, it is closer to something like GRH08 lets say :) too big imho
(also a small nitpick for Wh table, makita 4ah 40v battery is 144Wh, not 160, same for dewalt 20 and 60 which are 90 and 162, kobalt 86.4 etc, marketing voltage is just a gimmick. for eg this would put dewalt 20 in the first place)
Weirdly enough, they do write 100wh and 180wh on their battery. I guess their capacity drop once they land in EU lol.
@@MrArcticPOWER yeah I guess it is ok to lie like that on US soil lol
As long as the tool is similar in size in weight who cares about the voltage
The oh that's not fair crowd makes me laugh
@@baseballdude8491 never said anything about the voltage bro, please read more carefully.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Looking how hard the dude pushed the Milwaukee in the speed test,compared to the other, clearly makes a speed test without a simpel weight of pressure pretty pointless. A sled with weight pulley would be much more proper way to make the speed test.
That’s actually not true every tool performs differently and has their own sweet spot. Some tools work better if you apply more pressure some tools work better if you let the tool do the work. That being said, their reviews are unbiased Rob runs Makita out of his van and he started with Makita as a carpenter. So there’s no incentive to give one tool a edge over the other.
@@steffendetrick I do trust Rob, but all the other guys testing I'm not sure. That being said, I don't think it made much difference in the end. If you've ever used a SDS, you know how little difference it makes, if any at all.
A hammer drill is more a chisel than a drill, and pushing hard on a chisel before striking it with a hammer wouldn't make any difference.
@MrArcticPOWER I used to think that, too. But Boltah Downunder showed that pushing harder does drill faster. Search for "Pressing too hard drilling with SDS rotary hammer". It's unfortunately not weighted and didn't keep going to see where the minimum is.
4:07 is definitely pushing Milwaukee hard - he fully compresses the shock absorber! But we don't really see the others, so hard to know. I agree that a sled would have been better. Milwaukee is still likely to win as they prioritise performance. Having good vibration damping like Makita/Hilti/Bosch, might mean sacrificing some performance.
Its asking a lot but the best way would be a manual free hand test and a weighted test. If the results don't match then you know that the specific weight that was used favored some tools over others.@@steffendetrick
I think you picked the wrong Bosch for this test. That particular model is underpowered
I bought the Makita 40V HR010 rated to 20mm 3 weeks ago. I drilled a series of 16mm holes, 36, over 3 days and it packed it in. Now the rep in my home state is saying that I need to upgrade to larger drill.
So, he is saying in other words that the drill doesn't live up to the rated capacity, because the upgraded capacity of the rotary he is recommending is 30mm. Makita have refused to replace it, even though it didn't even last 2 weeks.
I'll never buy Makita anything again and should have stuck to my Milwaukee platform.
Hei, this test seems like a Milwaukee advertisement, because only Milwaukee consistently ranks high across all hole size, while the other brands have vastly different rankings at different holes.It's suspicious that Milwaukee is the only one with a consistent performance.
Bosch for longevity... solid drills imho
Why do they got to look like space guns, Rob ? lol
I had the milwaukee it really sucked . Never worked . Took it to the shop 4 times then finally sent it to milwaukee 3 times . They sent it so someone else and then they sent me a new one it worked 3 months then I just tossed it in the trash . That’s a lot of money to throw away . That was the worst milwaukee tool I ever bought .
What was the main application; how did you use it? What bits?
@@ggrimm79 never got to use the tool because it never worked . It was the largest sds they made . For the first 2 1/2 years it was at milwaukee trying to get it to work . I finally gave up it was just not worth my time to deal with milwaukee .
@@johnbailey9682 Yikes!
Makita’s auxiliary handles are the worst. You spend more time fiddling with the handle than you do drilling the holes. When the Nuron came in, the XGT went out the door.
and where is bauer, the king of kings of all sds drills


I love your test
Greetings from Germany
Big ups
comparing cheap and expensive doesn't make any sense. You should give weight to cheaper and smaller. Based on your theory, boxing should be one class...no heavy or light class...
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Hahaha, just checked.... Milwaukee #1.... congratulations on your testing methods!
Love the videos, been watching for years, but I’ve contained my rage long enough… Your scoring system is absurdly illogical and over complicated. Complete BS.
Fair enough - how about some suggestions?
@@ConcordCarpenter May I suggest? You could divide the final rating into several categories and give every category some weight in the final score. The score in every category could be normalized to 10 (for example). And you give points for being good. For example, holes per charge. The fastest gets 10 points and the other gets % of the holes drilled. So, if 2 are similarly close (like 245 and 240 holes) they don't get 1 and 2 place, but rather 10 and 10 points in that category, because they are basically the same. Also, you definitely should include not only power, but other parameters like vibration for hammer drills which is very important for prolonged use of hammer drill. Hope it helps. Don't hesitate to ask if you need help to define the scoring system.
@@donalexey we do that now in all the subjective categories - just not the timed ones
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This is not a true test. Just an odd line up of rotaries.
Dewalt dch416, should have been the dch293.
Metabo KH 18 LTX BL 28 Q, should been the kh 18 LTX BL 24.
Not comparing apples with apples. This test is comparing apples to oranges.
If the winner wasn't Milwaukee then your test was garbage. Period.
Milwaukee is Chinese owned garbage