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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- I bought a Chinese "sport" scooter about a month ago and I decided to make a vid telling you if these cheap bikes are a good deal or not. I go through the good and bad and give my final thoughts on these very controversial scooters.
My 150cc runs good got 6000 miles on it and always change oil and gear oil, valve adjust and tune up and premium gas, got a friend that has up to 34,000 miles on his gy6 engine, it might be Chinese but it will last if u take care of it !
+xavier mireles Did you use conventional or synthetic oil?
+150cc GY6 Scooter, i used synthetic and still runs good, and sometime regular, they say change at 900 miles but they both turn black around 500 miles so id recommend change oil every 500 miles !
+xavier mireles dude all oil will turn black its the soot from the exsaust it leaks gasses into the crankcase from the valves and other things thats no problem synthetic oil is good in a car for 6000 miles its not worth changeing it early just a waste of money let it ride for a while wont hurt nothing u change the oil cause it gets thin loosing its vescosity thickness thats were the protection is so save that money bro
can you tell me how to change the gear oil. when should I change? got 50 miles on it.
Is the motor a Honda design? I have GY6 toa toa 2014-150 CC Quantum tour?
Great review. I see the video is about 8yo so i’m wondering: did the scooter hold up, did you have it long and what broke?
At the 12 year mark
Thanks for your extensive review. I was thinking about getting one, but settled on a moped. Still has a Chinese motor though... Yes, I totally agree with you, it's something you have to tinker with, you have to be a part-time rider, part-time mechanic! I really think the appeal of the "Chinese" motors/scooters is the price tag more than anything.
I really appreciate your comprehensive, yet easy to understand reviews! You have a great public speaking style. Keep up the good work!
I've been drooling over these for years. Your video was very informative. Enjoyed the tour, Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to do this review. It's not only fun to watch, but also very informative. Cheers to you!
I think you got a killer deal for that scooter, but when you said it will hang with any Honda,Kawasaki etc............lets not get carried away......
Wile E Coyote I think you misunderstood. What he said was, now that he has made the tweaks, upgrades and maintenance, this PARTICULAR bike would be as reliable as the Honda, etc.
Seems fair enough. If he knows his stuff to do the work, his judgement is probably worth hearing.
Thats what im saying, dont say its as reliable as a honda, your crazy, its fucking air cooled dude.
Atheer Athman what other way can it be cooled?
Lol 😆
@@habibiranch So a older air cooled bike isn't reliable just because it's air cooled? Not very sound logic imo.
I have a 2008 model, nearly identical but without grocery bag hook. Paid $897 for it. It's been going 10 years, runs great. I don't work on stuff like that, but have paid probably $500 in repair bills over the years for various things. Also installed a kill switch.
Compared to a Vespa for 8000-9000 it's a bargain.
Uno G and if you have tools and some experience much better
Yes, they may be cheaply made, but when you can't afford 2 to 3 thousand for a good one, you still can get you money's worth out of these. I have two Chinese scooters, the 4 year old one has almost 29,000 miles on it and the 2.5 year old one has just over 7,000 miles on it. I did have a bit of electrical problem on the first one, but other than that just regular maintenance and a set of tires at 23,000 miles. So I have gotten my more than money's worth out of it.
i love the way you speak. easy to understand, regular guy, and honest. i appreciated.
Loved the review. Very informative thanks! I was just curious...Did you find a solution to the gas cap vibrating loose, and if so what was it? Also, what were the little fixes you needed to do? Could a newbie mechanic figure it out? thanks again!
I got a new Chinese 150 cc scooter. Let me tell you what was wrong with it the day I got it.
(1) Came with NO spacer between the two bearings in the front wheel. VERY DANGEROUS!
(2) The gy6 engine has two valves with two springs for each valve. Three out of the four springs where broken when I got the scooter.
(3) The rubber intake manifold almost instantly began to dissolve from the gas. Got a replacement one from the company I bought the scooter from and it too dissolved within a couple of weeks. Finally got one that didn't dissolve on Ebay.
Here is a list of parts I've had to buy over the past 6 years.
(1) Five stators.
(2) One starter.
(3) Three CDI units.
(4) Two coil/spark plug wires.
(5) Three carburetors.
(6) One new storage trunk. (First one got cracks in it and lock failed)
(7) One set of valve springs.
(8) Three light bulbs - One head light, one tail light, one turn signal light.
(9) Three air filters.
(10) One air filter housing mount.
(11) One fuel filter.
(12) Four tires.
(13) One front brake caliper with fluid reservoir and brake handle.
(14) Three exhaust manifolds
(15) Three mufflers.
(16) Three spark plugs.
(17) One regulator.
(18) Three air valve stems.
(19) Two drive belts.
(20) One valve cover gasket.
(21) Three scooter covers.
(22) Fly wheel removal tool.
(23) One oil drain plug
That's all I can think of right now.
How much labor did I pay to fix these things? $0.00
I did all the work myself.
Question? Should you buy a Chinese scooter?
Answer: Only if you are mechanically inclined and able to work on it yourself, otherwise you will spend so much on labor you would have been better off paying more to get a Honda.
How many miles does my scooter have? Only about 10,000 miles. Odometer (and speedometer) broke about 4,000 miles ago.
Change the fork oil to a hevier weight that will make a real difference. Also you can add a 1/2 inch spacer above the springs-any object that fits will do, then your forks will be stiffer.
Really glad you mentioned the fact that the ABS brakes arent true ABS, and just limit the amount of pressure that can be applied and like you pointed out they are useless in rain or snow.
Nine years later it's 2019 & this scooter, now called the Tao Tao Lancer, is till under $800 :)
I just bought a jonway 250 and so far I love it. and mostly because of your review. thanks
Do you still have it?
Thanks for the info, how is it holding up a few years later?
what were the initial fixes you mention? I mean, what went wrong in the beginning that you had to address? Also, how is the bike doing now?
what exactly did you fix on it ? tighten some loose bolts ?
Bought a Jonway 50cc. It was a rental and had less than 1000 miles. Dealer assembled and maintained. Very happy with it.
My only concern is the headlights. The low beam is on the left so will the light on the road be slightly to the left? Same with high beam, will the light hang to the right? I can’t find any videos that show how they work at night and if they are centered in front of the bike. If they are centered and has even lighting on both sides of the bike, then I’m definitely looking into this one.
Hello everyone out there that's thinking about buying a taotao scooter. Well I got a red one just like the one in this video, and it runs very good. However, you need to be careful when driving over bumps in the road, because it will cause some of your bolts to come loose and you won't know there's loose. The only problem I really had with it; is the first two months that I had it; my belt broke on me, but the company outta Texas sent me another one for free. But the good thing about this scooter; it's so very easy to work on. You can pull it up on youtube, and it will show you what to do. Three dollars will full it up and last me all week.
+Ralph “Candymanlove” Willis AGREED!
+Ralph “Candymanlove” Willis I'm waiting for mine, and already purchase all the upgrades I want to do to it. can't wait.
I have mines over a year now, and had only a few problems with it. But she back up on the road running like a brand new sewing machine. $2.75 fill it up with gas and it last me a whole week. This is my baby. But I strongly encourage you to watch the things you run over...like plastic bottles and wet leaves and pine straw on the road.
I work for a shop that sells Vespa,and I agree,the prices are out of line! Now with a Vespa from the 150cc and up,they're pretty decent,and now fuel injected so they actually run very well and without carb trouble.Now the Piaggio 50 ans 125's,they're Chinese made,but with piaggio's designs and standards,but there are problems especially with the carb on the 50.They have a new 50 that's under $3k out the door now and it looks decent.
Thanks for the review! I just got a JONWAY YY150T-12, which is similar. On day 2 the turn signal stopped working and for the life of me I can't find the fuses except for the one near the battery. Any clues?
It's great video ... can you post something about the issues you referred to but did not really mention what they were?
hi thanks for the video
But what's the size of your helmet
and is the chinese scooter good or not?
hope you answer me
thanks
What is this? I have the same exact scooter but can not find anything about it anywhere on the internet and all I’m trying to do is change my mirrors😭 someone please help! Is it a GY6? I keep searching a million things and can’t find it
Where can I find parts for this ?
Do you think it would be good as a starter bike or should I just save the money up and go for something better?
the flaws you mentioned are not that bad and are present on yamaha, honda or any other scooters as well, that's because some of the cheaper and smaller bikes/scooters that Suzuki, Honda and others sell are in fact made in china, they just don't advertise that.
Let me know what problems you have after 5-10k, then we will know if it's a good deal or not, but $800 new is a good price, that's almost how much they are selling used around here
Great video. Entertaining and a very good assessment from what I can tell in showing a viewer what they'll get if they're considering one of these "Chinese" scooters.
I do plan on getting one, but knowing what's in store helps a lot as opposed to expecting a gas-and-go thing.
I have a similar model with another name. What is this model called? I do not find spare parts for mine, but may be available for your model.
@MrBorderghost The dealer I got mine from actually did a pretty thorough job checking it out before handing it over. But when I got it home I tore it apart myself and did a proper PDI.
This bike was probably designed for the US market. In the US, it's a DOT requirement to have turn signals that turn with the steering wheel. Bikes sold in both the US and overseas will have turn signals molded into the front (which is cleaner looking) and something on the bars as well.
IT'S JUNK!! I live in a town that has more scooters than cars and if it ain't a Honda,Yamaha or Vespa chances are good it's only reliable when new and good up to the first year,after that it's junk! I bought used Yamaha Zumas for the price of a new offbrand Chinese made scooter and still runs year after year!
So what is the best brand among (honda, Yamaha or Vespa) in terms of quality and price?
A friend bought a first bike galaxy scooter in 2002 and still running like new
I bought this model of bike recently for 350$, its in good shape (a 2009). Do you know where to get body parts for it? It's the same bike you have in the video. That's about all is wrong with mine, it's mostly aesthetic. Other few minor functionality issues were due to the previous owners lack of maintenance.
I’m looking to buy one in Dallas.. Where did you buy this?
Dude you're awesome.
I'm considering buying a JCL 150 with 16 inch wheels because my girl friend is shorter than I am. What do you think? I was going to buy it off line but NOW I may go to a store a check something similar out before I purchase one.
Did you torque the variator pulley nut on to spec? Also, make sure the weights are placed in the right direction in the variator. Otherwise, the weights will rattle the whole pulley loose!
I’m coming up on my first 500 miles on mine. Still running like day one. I like them.
What year?
that looks like a good deal for the price, did anything went wrong since you got it?
back brake is useless though front is 70% looks like the front break was pretty awesome. you use both at the same time. it even says so at the DMV
Greetings. I have a JCL 250cc with the Yamaha/Linhai engine. I noticed you still had the original Chinese tire on the front.. I assume also on the back? I would replace those tires immediately. I had the same Chinese tire on the front of my JCL which gave me terrible head-shake. Thought it was the design of the front fork or the bearing on the steering column. Once I replaced the Chinese tire with a quality Shinko, the head shake disappeared. I've had to rewire parts of the electricals.
For the money you can't beat them just a lot of maintenance checking bolt's body screws oil but I like mine very happy with it.If you want to make it move better change the variater weights to 14oz they are 16oz stock it will rev faster.Great vid good luck.
You mentioned things that broke for the first few months. What sort of things broke and were parts easy to get online and how long did it take to get them?
I have the same kind of chinese scooter, any idea where I can get an air filter?
chinese bikes have bad reviews, but treat them right and you should have minimal problems. unlike other people my age who buy them the min they are old enough to ride one on the streets, then tear shit out of them racing each other, then falling off them round corners, and totaling their bikes, only to be forced to return to having to walk to where they need to be.
i have a 50cc chinese scooter and have had no problems besides me breaking the brake light by pulling the wrong way on the lever.
How is it with you and do you have any issues with it until now ?
I just bought a bike like yours. What is the phone icon in the kilometers account? How is it used?
@jatroup12 It's just like I say in the video. If you are okay searching the web for tips and fixing things on your own it is a good buy. If you are lazy and rely on dealerships to fix your car when it breaks down forget it.
Thanks for the great video, had any problems with it since?
Where are you looking? I can get pretty much the exact same bike for 750$. For around 950$ have it in your driveway anywhere in the US.
as far as front end dive, i fixed that problem on my ninja 250 by using heavier weight fork oil, worked amazing. just a suggestion.
I have this same one but I can't find any place to order any parts for this exact scooter
I have a 150cc phantom scooter. My question is ? My valve recently broke off accidentally, am I able to just buy a valve replacement or do some come tubeless.
And it costs much much more...I'm not so sure I want to pay 4k for a bike I could get for 1.2k. Sure, might require more upkeep then yours, but not 2.8k more.
I agree. The disparity in prices is too great to resist the Chinese scooters. The Honda/Vespa/Yamaha, etc dealers are TOO GREEDY.
Is it a roketa? I just bought one 3 days ago that looks pretty similar.
@MrPolymers wondering if once you get the bike stablized should be no more problems?
@jtech87 haha dude that sucks.. but like would you reccomend one of these bad boys for like a 14 year old kid? or maybe one with less power? like a 50cc or maybe 100?
What's the best stand up gas scooters's and the best gas bicycle's and why ?
Where can I buy this scooter?, and what is that model?
Thanks
After the initial fixes it’s great!? Like what?
Thanks for the great review! Seen this bike on Ebay same price in Dallas. Probably where you got yours lol. I am upgrading from a 50cc scooter and its great to see this on video and get a full depth look. Very awesome review and appreciate it a lot! Will get mine this summer. Safe riding!
I'll have to get a motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license to ride a 150 in Florida. I can ride a 50cc on a driver's license, but anything faster requires a motorcycle endorsement. I want to get a scooter, but the 50cc are too slow and I don't have the time to do a class for a motorcycle endorsement.
Hey jtech87, what exactly went wrong in the 1st couple of months that you had to repair?
Thanks for the review, man. I've been looking at these cheap scooters and this was helpful. Cheers!
I got basically the same bike with different headlights from TaoTao after only 2 weeks I am really impressed with it and very satisfied with the purchase.
has the clear plastics started to turn yellow yet
@jtech87 I'm wondering, exactly what initial fixes did you have to make to the scooter that made it run so well?
looks nice hows it holding up??
Nice Scooter, gonna get mine here shortly, I see you're a veteran, join the the club and thanks for the service, see ya at the VA in Houston
Thankx man i'm planning on buying 1 of these for 599 US$ if i pick it up in Dallas and 825 us$ if delivered. I'm living in waco Tx do u think i can ride the bike back home after i buy it ? also do u need a special driver license to ride this bike ?
thnx man.
can they be done by any guy who is willing to undertake them? thanks
How much was tax and title? I'm in Dallas also. I'm thinking about getting my nephew one of these.
Can you elaborate a little more about the "initial fixes?" What sorts of things are you talking about?
If you need parts ware you go?
What is the brand name?
yes, they do. Countersteering is all because the wheels want to bring the bike/scooter upright and the rider is steering to make the thing fall over (a little bit). I've done 4,500 miles on my scooter (7,000 Km)
@aves1pm The only fixes I had to do were changing the glass fuses over to modern blade types and I always had problems with the muffler rattling. Everything else was preventative work like checking every bolt and connection and changing all the fluids and stuff. Never had to do anything major to it.
any problems with a loos es park plug wire?
what is the year model
@MrPolymers Yep done that. The Chinese tires actually griped very well. They just suck in the rain.
What were the initial fixes you had to do?
@jtech87 Hey man, I've got the same bike you do except it has different stickers on it. Actually I haven't had good luck with mine at all. Most of my rubber is dry rotted(but I live in Pennsylvania), I've had to replace the drive belt, tire valves, and I'm going to have to "rig" up a new intake for it because my air filter is shot to heck. Lol but I haven't given up hope cuz it is fun to ride. Do you know anywhere to get parts for these??? I'm having a hard time finding anywhere online. Thanks.
I need some help comment section.
I can’t find the full price of a 50cc benzhou scooter anywhere!! I would love some assistance
what are those quick fixes that you are talking about?
How is your moped doing now 4 years later?
What sort of initial repairs did you have to make?
Thx. for your share, is this the Taotao-150 ? which is a copy of Honda ??
How can we get it register ?? My minivan is way too old and Im thinking to get one of this
+stealhty1 registered through your state's DMV.
Do you know of the brand of scooter called motorino.?? I was thinking of getting a brand new one from vally scooters . They ship them 99% assembled . The scooter called a supremo.
@guitargod1997 I swear every time I even THINK of making a video some kind of noise happens in the background. I thought I was safe doing this vid in the middle of nowhere but I guess not lol.
hey! can you also buy bikes in the US that are popular in europe? Like yamaha Aerox, Gilera runner, peugeot Speedfight, etc.?
Good info. I have been considering one of the Chinese 150cc scooters. Your video was helpful. Thanks!
bro! thanks for the video. you mention 'generic 150 chinese bike' but you don't mention the brand/make. I owned 150cc Znen and it looked EXACTLY like the one on this video (just different colors) same even down to the glove box and the way the outside of it needs to be pushed in after it is shut and the lights on the front (with the low-beam having the dark like for the oncoming traffic). Anyways, I loved that bike. it would run 65 mph all day. Could you please tell me the brand/model? Thanks.
Dude! that was a fantastic review and you are a fantastic reviewer. I watched the entire video. Bravo man, I want one like yours for my girl..
@dkw12002 One thing the Chinese do very well is engines. They are old school air cooled, SOHC, carbed engines but they are bulletproof. They use the same carbs the Japanese use and the same CVT belts. You don't have to worry about engines.
And actually the overall build quality is pretty good. The frame is solid, the plastics are tough (i've dropped mine a few times, no cracks), and the wiring is great. I would TOTALLY buy another one for myself.
I have a JCL 250cc scooter (Chinese) I purchased used from a Honda/Suzuki dealership here in Ohio this past summer. First, I have owned a number of motorcycles/scooters. My first scooter was a Suzuki Burgman which is far and beyond the quality of these Chinese scooters. Had to sell, kids in college stuff, then got the urge to get riding again. This spring, purchased a Kymco 150cc Super 8. Great machine. Problem was, just too small for me. Traded for the JCL. Lots of work to keep it going..
How much the insurance cost and registration?
I bought a used one. Exactly like yours. Just put a rubber gasket on the gas cap. I will eventually upgrade to a Tmax. So the one i have i may sell or not. But yes it is powerful.
the "weird" fitting part of the trunk is for the air filter... i have the same scooter but the air filter is there, rather than above the pipe.
Those Chinese scooters do hold up pretty well, the only drawback is the original parts such as the belt, tires, and light bulbs are low quality and have to be replaced with aftermarket parts almost immediately but once that's done then everything's fine. I'm very happy with mine so far. I bought it brand new last summer and have 5k miles on it as of now. Another good thing about them is that most if not all of those scooters share the same engine and other mechanical parts.
Fuel lines too.
Be sure to replace those valve stems. The rubber on those will crack to the point of blowing out, which won't be pretty if you're going 50-60mph.