Sabian HHX Complex Cymbals | Drum Gear Review

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  • @knowntalmbout
    @knowntalmbout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    These are the most beautiful cymbals sabian has made in a while.

    • @kspocketngroove3973
      @kspocketngroove3973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      amen🙏🏻

    • @FanaticDrummer
      @FanaticDrummer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Artisans inspired these.

    • @1dudecrush
      @1dudecrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They’re basically more affordable artisans, which imo are the absolute pinnacle of hand crafted cymbals. I can’t wait until tomorrow when we get to finally hear the new anthology line

    • @richardaaron4454
      @richardaaron4454 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m definitely getting that 22” Complex Thin Crash

    • @richardaaron4454
      @richardaaron4454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Complex O-Zone Chinas are great too

  • @fractallightx
    @fractallightx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you. Yesterday bought 14/16/18/20 pack. Gorgeous, stunning and amazing sound. To my ears these cymbals sound is even darker than you can hear on any video about HHX complex. You won't be disappointed. Now I want to buy 10 splash, 19/20 crash and 22/23 medium ride. If my ears are right, these 22/23 rides are one of the best ride cymbals ever created.

  • @FakeJesseJuarez
    @FakeJesseJuarez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    These changed the way I play. I went from 16-19 crashes to the 22 and I’ll never be able to play smaller cymbals again. They are so controlled and perfect. It’s the sound, feel and vibe I’ve been after for years.

    • @redonred0924
      @redonred0924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try the 22" Thin Ride, I use it as my ride, AND my right crash for my gig setup. It crashes soo smoothe for a ride.

    • @braepil
      @braepil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@redonred0924 21" Thin Ride here. It's like butter. So dang good. I want a 20" Thin Crash to pair it with.

    • @RenatinhoLicioniFilho
      @RenatinhoLicioniFilho ปีที่แล้ว

      YES YES YES!!!!

    • @TheKiddOnDrums
      @TheKiddOnDrums ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redonred0924same here!

    • @havespacesuitwilltravel9607
      @havespacesuitwilltravel9607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      came to a similar conclusion recently. Bigger is better with cymbals ESPECIALLY with crashes

  • @marcpatzelt2430
    @marcpatzelt2430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I think this is my new favourite cymbal series! My dream setup would be those 14" hats, that 18" thin crash, the 21" thin ride as a crash/ride, the 22" medium ride. Phenomenal sound!

    • @SteveHubbardGuitar
      @SteveHubbardGuitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FYI - the 22" medium ride crashes exceptionally well. The wash is soooo smooth! Did I mention how great the bell is?

    • @tonyvalenti6614
      @tonyvalenti6614 ปีที่แล้ว

      You gotta try those 15” Big Cup Hats! 😁👍🏻

  • @mr.d7429
    @mr.d7429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Perfect demo ! I love when the player uses every aspect of a ride cymbal, including it’s wash when used as crash! Thank you. 🤘🏾🤘🏾

  • @MartinBellamyMBDrums
    @MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The HHX line is so beautifully dark. They pair really nice with AAX lines

  • @michaelbrown3128
    @michaelbrown3128 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a paiste guy, but those hi hats are incredible!!! I love them!

  • @Etetubruno
    @Etetubruno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have the 15” hats and 22” medium ride. They’re a dream pair. They offer everything from subtle to aggressive playing. I would love to see a Complex China.

    • @SteveHubbardGuitar
      @SteveHubbardGuitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They just released them! Check drum shops (or Long & McQuade) in Canada.

    • @Etetubruno
      @Etetubruno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SteveHubbardGuitar oh my word yes they did. Time to sell a kidney.

    • @redonred0924
      @redonred0924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like your wish came true. Looking at a Complex O-Zone China as we speak.

    • @hugorezende199
      @hugorezende199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redonred0924 i guess the holy china is basically that, its a well hamered and thin holed china cymbal

  • @jettsom
    @jettsom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I upgraded my entire kit (2 crash, ride, splash, hi-hat) with these and they are awesome! As good the Meinl Byzance series.

    • @Thomohawk21
      @Thomohawk21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is a big call and I think you might be right!

  • @blackcheddar9810
    @blackcheddar9810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Surprisingly enough I play punk rock and for the past year and a half I been playing 18 and 20in complex crashes. I think they sound great.

  • @jesseknorr9052
    @jesseknorr9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is how you do a cymbal review video.. very well done

  • @jonn443
    @jonn443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Holy Shit...I love their sound.
    HHX Complex > PAISTE Masters

    • @jacknewton5961
      @jacknewton5961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but paiste sigs are better lmao

    • @Jasper_Drummer
      @Jasper_Drummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, not a huge fan of the masters. But I like Paistes more in general.

  • @official_pocketprince4018
    @official_pocketprince4018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dude went hard on 8:00 mins 🔥🔥🔥😭😭😭

  • @jojoalexander6978
    @jojoalexander6978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the 14 inch hats, they have a very crisp chick and sound great in a jazz context aswell as in rock, funk, Latin etc. Great pair of hats.

  • @SXI96
    @SXI96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave Abbruzzese got me into Sabian cymbals with Pearl Jam, they sounded fantasti, I'm absolutely loving the sound of these!

  • @silasollegario
    @silasollegario ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best comparison I've seen so far. Great job, dude. You're really awesome. Thanks for the content!

  • @RigSMP100
    @RigSMP100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is one of the best demonstration comparison Cymbal videos I have seen congratulations, can you do one on bright and glassy Cymbals as well everybody knows what dry means but the opposite of dry is much less clearer so I would suggest that you do a focus comparison of crashes and rides which are not dry
    In fact it’s often confused with not dark!!!

  • @tonyvalenti6614
    @tonyvalenti6614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I just bought these HHX Complex cymbals. I got the 15” Big Cup Hats, the 17” & 19” Thin Crashes, a 22” Thin Ride, and a 10” Aero Splash. I love them all. My future short list includes an O-Zone Crash, O-Zone China, Aero Crash, and a 7” Splash. Would be great if you updated you review to include the new cymbals! I would like to see them add a 12” Splash or Aero Splash. Maybe a small Holy China. Thanks! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @ScottDincorn
    @ScottDincorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great review. All's it was missing for me was really laying into the crashes and rides instead of just accenting them. I have one of the 22" thin rides and it's amazing. They unfortunately seem so far to have a very wide weight range, (2100 to 2500 grams) and mine is right in the middle around 2300 g. As a main ride for louder volumes, you'd probably want the definition of the medium ride (or take your chances with getting a 2500+ g thin ride), but this cymbal is so nice.

  • @stevetingley2508
    @stevetingley2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow all those symbols sound so nice I'm just starting out again after 20 years not not playing I'm not very good but I would tend to go towards those HHX complex series They are beautiful

  • @MrItanaa
    @MrItanaa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i'd play every single one on all kinds of genres.. these are incredible versatile cymbals

  • @joaodepaula
    @joaodepaula 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time i watch this cymbals i think, how this could be só perfect!

  • @braepil
    @braepil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the 21" Thin Ride and the somewhat unspoken about 19" Ozone China. Fantastic cymbals. I'm kicking myself for not getting the 15" Medium Hats when I had the chance.

  • @thumperpaul
    @thumperpaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That 22” medium ride is killer!

  • @SKBAB97
    @SKBAB97 ปีที่แล้ว

    These cymbals all sound like butter! Awesome stuff

  • @pataudi8025
    @pataudi8025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just yesterday ordered a 17 inch complex crash (thin) thanks for this video! I'm happy with my choice haha

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have fun with it! Definitely a great cymbal 👍

    • @pataudi8025
      @pataudi8025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtOfDrumming looking forward to it!

  • @borispopovic2570
    @borispopovic2570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Series, especially the hihats!

  • @WillBloodfarm
    @WillBloodfarm ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. One small request if you wouldn't mind taking one onboard...in the future when you demo hi-hats, please play them fully open as an extra dimension. I usually play them about a centimeter or more when I play, and it would be good to hear them in that context. Thank you. EDIT You did play them open a little near the end I noticed, which was great.

  • @eliasarroyo4929
    @eliasarroyo4929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a K Sweet guy but this sabian series sounds amazing 🔥😎💪

  • @andrewgides4508
    @andrewgides4508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so very much for the awesome demo. You did such a great job, super helpful. I love these cymbals and you helped me to understand the voices of each.

  • @Salantsoundstudios
    @Salantsoundstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that snare sound is rockin too!!!

  • @DerTeufelImDetail
    @DerTeufelImDetail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fuuuck ! So brilliant sounding cymbals ... And beautys too ...

  • @JSB1729
    @JSB1729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this great video. All of these sound and look beautiful.

  • @havespacesuitwilltravel9607
    @havespacesuitwilltravel9607 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked all of them! Lately I have been enjoying the sound of bigger crashes and rides so, if anything, I would like to see them get bigger. Give me a 30" thin ride!

  • @cooperrobinson2975
    @cooperrobinson2975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    overall, a wonderful line!! i think it would be fun to use them in an indie rock setting, where they’ll all get use, but it’s soft enough for them to be heard

  • @thomasnappo6309
    @thomasnappo6309 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful everything...Well Done😊

  • @damarilawrence9330
    @damarilawrence9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing b-roll & excellent narration voice!

  • @TimDaleDrums
    @TimDaleDrums ปีที่แล้ว

    I made the mistake of buying a used 18" HHX complex thin crash just because it popped up on a sale page. Since then I've bought a 19" and 20" crash, a 10" splash, and now looking at the rides.. Even potentially moving from my Zildjian K Custom dark hats. Expensive cymbals but I've honestly never heard cymbals quite like these and as a result, my whole kit sound has completely stepped up a notch

  • @willrockdesigns
    @willrockdesigns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous looks and sounds. I would love a set. Go ahead and send for testing!

  • @jakegravity3642
    @jakegravity3642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 16 and 17 inch complex thin crashs are my favorite. Best crashes for the sound i want! But i favor the 17 more lol

  • @521photography
    @521photography 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While a fan of 24” rides - that 21” is kind of amazing! Overall, a great series. I wish Sabian would do a 24” ride. I know about the Bash ride - I mean a medium 24” all rounder….

  • @LuisJReyes-rx4uh
    @LuisJReyes-rx4uh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    those look & sound like the "Bliss" series from Dream Cymbals.

  • @joshuawilson7201
    @joshuawilson7201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video! Great audio capture!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These sound great across the board - excellent line.

  • @brianbeattie4358
    @brianbeattie4358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey this was a supremely well done demonstration!

  • @catfromcaracas80
    @catfromcaracas80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maaaan, they knocked it out of the park with this line! I've been a die-hard Zildjian guy for years but I recently got the 22 HHX Medium Ride and let me tell you...my Constantinople has been benched! Now I'm looking to see what 20 or 21 would compliment it well. I'd like to be able to use it as a ride for hotel/cocktail hour gigs but also as a crash when the 22 is the main ride.

    • @SteveHubbardGuitar
      @SteveHubbardGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same ride... Still my favourite after 2 years!

  • @rl95719
    @rl95719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That snare though!

  • @beket__
    @beket__ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    personally I've been trying to get my hands on a set of HHX complexes with a 21" thin ride, 19" and 17" crash, and 15" hats, I mainly play jazz but I also just really like darker cymbals

  • @jarretttaylor6745
    @jarretttaylor6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very surprised by this since most of the videos I’ve seen from y’all are using Zildjian. Great video as always.

  • @EliPoli64
    @EliPoli64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that sound. Keep it up guys!

  • @juanemmanuelsalinas2001
    @juanemmanuelsalinas2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me it would be. 15 hhx complex Hi hat and 20 hhx complex crash & 24 hhx complex medium Ride & 22 hhx complex crash & 17 hhx complex ozone crash on top of a 19 hhx complex ozone crash as my stack & hhx complex 10 splash.
    I would use in a context of Christian Gospel Music and contemporary Christian Music.

  • @LNZROCKS
    @LNZROCKS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great demo!!! Loved it!!!

  • @theotheodorou1374
    @theotheodorou1374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dream set up 14/16/18/20 combo , with a splash & ozone 17s crash and china maybe the 22 later as well who knows

  • @Romans219
    @Romans219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love everything Sabian makes in B20 alloy

  • @thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396
    @thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goddamn that 22" crash makes me tingle every time I hear it.

  • @rickarmstrong3247
    @rickarmstrong3247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT mix!

  • @swamygee
    @swamygee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you EQ or do any post processing? Looks like the high end has been boosted.

  • @hiptoalieu
    @hiptoalieu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That 20" MAN that sounds good!!!!

  • @brhelvojta
    @brhelvojta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Helped me a lot. Thanks!

  • @Sasquatch27
    @Sasquatch27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic demo! 🤘

  • @lopakadiego6358
    @lopakadiego6358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these sound so good

  • @redonred0924
    @redonred0924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found these after being SEVERELY let down by the Zildjian K Sweet line. I wanted to love those, but the crashes just had no balls to them. Don't go off of any recordings you hear of those, they're horribly misleading. And, just to save you bros the time, I know there's "A lOt Of EdItInG dOnE iN tHoSe ViDeOs". Yes, I'm aware of that. But that doesn't change the fact that they sounded nothing remotely close to what I thought I was getting.
    Anyway, that disappointment led me back to SABIAN, and to the HHX Complex line. I found a 22" Thin Crash at a local drum shop, so I figured I'd give it a try, and bought it. I ended up loving it so much, I later got the 15" Medium Hats, 22" Thin Ride, and the 23" Medium Ride. All are amazing, but that 22" Thin Ride is easily my favorite. I play in a classic rock cover band, and I like to keep my setup as minimalistic as possible, so the 22" Thin Ride doubles as my ride, and my right crash. Love it, easily my favorite cymbal that I own. Would really love if they made it in 24".

    • @franciscohernandez899
      @franciscohernandez899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m currently on the hunt for a new set and had my eye on the k sweets but I wasn’t convinced at all! I noticed that most artists don’t even use that line of cymbals as much but these just sound amazing!

    • @ScottDincorn
      @ScottDincorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 22" thin ride as well and am in love with it. Do you know what weight yours is? They seem to have a large range (2100-2500 grams) and mine is right in the middle at 2300. A 24" version would be incredible, something to rival Zildjian's 24" K Light.

    • @redonred0924
      @redonred0924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@franciscohernandez899 I've heard artists are leaving Zildjian left, and right, and going to SABIAN because they don't get treated well.

    • @redonred0924
      @redonred0924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScottDincorn No idea on the weight. But I love it so much if had to lose all my gear, and start over, but got to keep one thing, that would be it. Mostly because of its versatility, and range of uses.

  • @alabama9551
    @alabama9551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds amazing!

  • @kidgloves2
    @kidgloves2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I with there were more choices for 12 inch hi hats. Maybe they could add that to this line.

  • @gamadrummer
    @gamadrummer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you guys, great and useful work!!!!!

  • @michaelbrown3128
    @michaelbrown3128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a Paiste guy, but I love these, and the sound of your snare!

  • @nickLBA
    @nickLBA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most amazing review on TH-cam!! Thx a lot! Do more Sabian reviews 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @nehemiahhoward3251
    @nehemiahhoward3251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one who thinks that floor tom sounds extravagant

  • @chris_d_r_u_m_s
    @chris_d_r_u_m_s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah!!! These are extraordinary!

  • @laimansamarels6395
    @laimansamarels6395 ปีที่แล้ว

    They sound so good here, but I've tried them several times because and hated the sound in person. So if you are thinking of buying them maybe try them first

  • @amirulyusop8520
    @amirulyusop8520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous sounds 😍

  • @michaeldavis5106
    @michaeldavis5106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my HHX complex setup would look like this. a set of 15 inch medium hi hats, a 23 medium ride, a 19 inch O zone crash, and 16, 18, and 20 crashes.
    cymbals that I would add are, 14, 15, and 16 complex thin hi hats, 24 complex thin ride, 16, 18, and 20 complex regular china's (I Know that they already have the O zone china's.) complex medium crashes, (same sises as the thin crashes but only go up to 20 inches for the medium crashes.) add a 14 inch thin crash, 10 and 12 inch O zone splashes, and 8, 10, 12, and 14 inch complex mini china's.

  • @lamarjohnson1981
    @lamarjohnson1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cymbals are awesome but that snare is on time.

  • @CrappyProducts
    @CrappyProducts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a Zildjian guy but these sound great

  • @raizedbynerdz8718
    @raizedbynerdz8718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These sound like Paiste Signature line and Zildjian K got married and had a baby...love it

  • @marcelonevesdefaria8886
    @marcelonevesdefaria8886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic......
    Beautiful sinballs...

  • @garyjohnson4988
    @garyjohnson4988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These sound amazing! And I’m a Paiste guy!

  • @dejuanmills77
    @dejuanmills77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet Mother of God, Sabian is the way

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dark and "Complex" is certainly right on target with these cymbals. No false advertising here, and are really musical sounding cymbals. A little bit on the "upper" end of the price range. But you get what you pay for I think. The cymbals should outlast you, and you could leave them to your kids in your will if you wanted to. So from that standpoint, are they really "expensive". I don't think so.

  • @36Dorothea
    @36Dorothea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I was tryna buy these I would by everything

  • @ADDG880
    @ADDG880 ปีที่แล้ว

    any thoughts on pairing some complex thin crashes with hex evolution?

  • @tommcquiston8
    @tommcquiston8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @meshuggah434
    @meshuggah434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful

  • @alidisco
    @alidisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god that snare drum sound!!!!!!!

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might enjoy the review we did about this exact snare drum: th-cam.com/video/Hb6xcpY3P0A/w-d-xo.html

    • @alidisco
      @alidisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtOfDrumming Thank you! 👍🏻

  • @shanehaney2121
    @shanehaney2121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sabian and Meinl for me!

  • @ralphbenites1819
    @ralphbenites1819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do thay do with the o-zone cymbals left over round disks. I was thinking of ear rings or necklaces to make small cymbals.

  • @camerondean6804
    @camerondean6804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone speak to the durability of this HHX Complex Chinas (the ones with holes)?
    Thank you in advance for any feedback.

  • @wesstaff2493
    @wesstaff2493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What heads do you use on the foor tom? Sounds killer!

  • @stevewade2535
    @stevewade2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What cymbals did I like the most?? All of them!!! #eargasm.

  • @ramsdrum5344
    @ramsdrum5344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man it's beautiful. plz tell me what size that you play in intro

  • @chrissmith3668
    @chrissmith3668 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d love to have some of these beautiful cymbals but I’d break them in a week unfortunately

  • @YewrinePish
    @YewrinePish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love mine.

  • @JK-zo4px
    @JK-zo4px ปีที่แล้ว

    I play Prog Rock Music. I am searching for cymbals with an explosive attitude. Are the capeable of facing Rock Music?

  • @janivelic2316
    @janivelic2316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should add splashes and chinas.❤️

  • @paulosilva2489
    @paulosilva2489 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the best for heavy metal?

  • @soulmalia
    @soulmalia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video didn't help me at all, now I want to buy all 😩

  • @mjm5081
    @mjm5081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @cDisturbed.
    @cDisturbed. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this similar to the k series

  • @bryandrums32
    @bryandrums32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you give me that 20” crash!!!!

  • @carle3985
    @carle3985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sound great, but how long before they crack?

    • @ohrid59mk76
      @ohrid59mk76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      in the hands of real drummers they wil never crack !

    • @isaiahwilliams7729
      @isaiahwilliams7729 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heavy hitters will crack them im sticking with the evolution HHX 18 inch and 18 inch evolution ozone