ecell 5 star or motor goat v3. i mostly cruise but do a little off road but I need that speed and torque because im 260 pounds, we have alot of steep hills mostly paved. what do you prefer of the two ? thx
@@davewarren9029 That can be a hard decision, you will have to weigh the pros and cons, I like them both, one guy on the goat said his butt hurt after 30 minutes riding the goat needs a better padding. To me I think the options on The E Cells is better and a bit more comfortable ride, adjustable seat and the ride comfort may be a bit better. Also, it looks like the e cells has much better speeds going up hill and I believe the service is much faster and better if something goes wrong. And e Cells looking like a bike and not a motorcycle with new Ebike laws I feel better riding the e cells. I think my favorites and a toss up for power would be E Cells or the Molo5 72V 15000w built in Bluetooth speaker behind the headlight is cool and will ride two or the Mosphera 72 volt which is a powerful off road on road stand or sit down scooter and it can pull a trailer, military use them as well. I like it because you can add a seat and very portable powerful fast and great in the woods incredible suspension. I don't know but for value and service I would go with E cells. Not sure yet which one I will end up with as it's a hard decision.
@quantumfx2677 biggest turn off for e cells and wired was the 26 inch wheels ..their just to big of a bike for me and others..they need a 24 inch verson..that's one of the reasons I went with the billy goat..and I wanted more top speed than both I mentioned..
@@evewilliams5017Ecells Five Star bike does offer 24" wheels. My concern is by lowering the ground clearance 1" the chance of pedal strikes might increase.
Too bad the actual production models are only getting 37mph top speed and the frame is faulty with the shock hitting the battery. Matt must have gotten a special treatment sample from the honest folks at e cells. New Wired Freedom and Cruiser also look like bikes, but have 1000 more watts and destroy e cells on every performance metric and are less expensive even without breaking the law by not paying sales tax.
FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.
Now that you have ridden both the E-Cell Five Star and the Wired Freedom, which would you go back to ride as your daily ride? Thank you for the positive energy reviews!! Good vibes only. 😎🤙🏽
Great review. I like that you didn't hide anything. you mention what was upgraded on your bike and even showed the price for the upgrades. You even showed the chain coming off multiple times while explaining that the bikes that ship to customers will have dual chain guards. Great job as always.
Awesome video as always, everyone has been waiting for you to review this one. Apparently, it's the season for e-bike durability testing. It's insane that this bike is so customizable. Build-a-bike!
Dude, you are working so hard for e cells I hope you are getting stock🤣🤣🤣. Not a good look if you want to be seen as an objective reviewer. Beware of people with low ethics, not to mention felons and ex cons, your reputation is your best asset. E cells is simply not competitive vs new Wired bikes, you bet on the wrong horse.
FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.
Yay!!! I asked and you delivered us the E-Cells 5-star review! I've been wanting to see this against the wired freedom and I think I've been sold on this one for a while now👍
The New King indeed. Seems to be all pluses for this bike. I ordered one already with a torque sensor and a few other options. This video made me realize the torque sensor adds some safety since the accident in the video would not happen with one installed. Not a lot of reviewers would have left that part in the video. Great honest review.
Glad I read the comments. Yours will help the industry go with torque sensors instead of cadence to avoid lawsuits due to negligence in not mentioning the chain/pedal assist danger.
The new Tiger King maybe😂😂😂. Just watch what happens to e cells😮 If they are so big, why don’t they collect tax in any state? Because they haven’t sold many bikes. They are about to literally implode. I wouldn’t trust the Tiger King with $5.
I bought this bike solely based on your reviews. I also emailed them and let them know that very thing. Keep up the great work and all of the entertainment.
I got mine in June 2024. I love it after 1000 miles, in January 2025. It will do 40, I have had it up to 44. I weigh 230lbs. It gets to 35 quickly, and has enough power to ride around on 25mph roads in the DC suburbs without getting run over by traffic. Worth every penny.
Thanks for the great review! Very thorough and even included your mishap, which I appreciate. I've been on the fence about getting this ebike, but your video was the push I needed. I dropped the dime on one today! Thanks again!
@@RonWrightwrites Yeah I finally received it. It took 90 days, and no $200 refund. It's a great bike, just too bad you have to wait so long. I ordered a Buchda U8 for my wife and received it in 7 days. Ecells needs to start stocking more bikes so the customer doesn't have to wait.
Already ordered mine in the blue with gold rims! Can't wait! And when I called ECells to ask a question on a Friday at closing time I spoke to the owner who talked to me for 30 minutes AFTER closing time. I ordered my bike that night.
Torque sensor senses how much power you're putting into the pedaling and adjusting power to match. Since he was barely moving the pedal, the torque sensor probably wouldn't have even started up.
I'M 55 and happy to see really good suspension! Comfort is very much missing in many of these Ebikes! They nailed it. Also added your own comfort seat is a bonus! Get a second battery because when a bike is comfortable you always want to ride!
Their options list you showed, is superb. I like the choice of tyres, especially the road tyre. Offering Tannus Armour, either separate or fitted is a highlight and definitely yes for me. Overall ability to up-spec is great.
Knobby tires on the road can be a good thing. When I'm approaching pedestrians from behind I don't have to use the bell anymore. The unique noise of Nobby tires on the road draws the attention of pedestrians from quite a distance.
Thank you for the code and excellent reviews for this and the Wired Freedom. Free shipping sealed the deal and enabled me to upgrade to a torque sensor andsuspension.
They answered my call when I had a question just over a week ago. Super easy to get in touch with no wait time for me. Edit: I went with a Ride1Up 700 series though since all of E-Cells bikes are too big to bring on the bus bike racks where I live.
They only answer if you hit 1 for new order. Then they will say rachel is busy and cannot give you a refund right now. Scam scam scam. Very elaborate and well thought out scam
Always love your reviews! Almost pulled the trigger on a wired freedom 4 weeks ago and held off and discovered Ecells. Def glad that I waited and ordered last week. Thank you for confirming my thoughts on my purchase and can’t wait to be riding! I am an avid mountain biker and motorcycle rider and I truly believe this “sleeper” is the perfect bridge between the two! Keep up your amazing and honest reviews! You help so many people who are entering the e-bike world become educated and help decide which style of bike fits their needs. Thank you! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
What made you choose this over the Wired Freedom? I am thinking about getting either one in the next few months if nothing better comes out, but torn between the two.
@@MrBalas3 Went with the V2 Freedom. I have heard there may be some problems with the version 2 Freedom (some wobbling) and that the customer service over there may not be as good, but a lot of it seems to be stirred up by drama queens in the e-bike world; there is one channel in particular where it almost seems targeted. Newer companies are likely to have more issues, but I can be DIY if needed. I know Ecells has been in business a bit longer and more trusted, but I don't like the designs nor name as much. Also V2 Freedom has the extra battery, which prompted me to go with the Freedom. It apparently just shipped so I am hoping to get it within the next week. Edit: Ecells does have free shipping and a double sided chain protector apparently, and other upgrades that are worth a consideration! Overall Ecells might be the right way to go, but for my first Ebike, I am okay with going with the Freedom (plan to upgrade it to 72V/100amp at some point too)
@@kl3664Solid answer. All the added options from ECells may make for a better bike, but keeps bringing the price up too. Agree that don’t really like the name either. Hope you enjoy the bike.
@@kl3664I’m too am another torn and undecided hopeful trying to decide which bike to buy…it’s unfortunate to see so many different comments and reviews. It seems like two brands of bikes are very similar in many respects the Wired Freedom and the E-Cells 5 Star BOTH appear to be fantastic bikes. I’m still learning and closely reviewing both bikes, to be honest they sure make it tough to decide b/c both bikes seem to keep improving and or come with upgraded equipment. I’m certainly not complaining…that competitive spirit is good for the consumer. I’m a first time (soon to be) buyer of an e-bike, sure there are several factors that are important to me in deciding which bike to buy, but I think it’s subjective…everybody’s wants and needs will be different. I suppose it comes down to what you need in your bike and how you intend to use it. I will only add that I wish these bikes both had a better designed foot pedal. Have you seen the quick connect and prong design on the LECTRIC bikes? I wish both bikes had a functional integrated brake light in the rear rack much like the one on the Ride1Up e-bike. I wish both bikes came with a chain guard/guide on both sides both inside and outside. But you can’t have it all…they both seem like a great buy compared to some of these high end e-bike manufacturers…for example I test rode 2 different e-bikes today, the Specialized was one brand and the other was Riese & Múller oh and something called a Gazelle…OMG these bikes were selling for several thousand dollars over the price of the WIRED FREEDOM and the E-Cells 5 Star. Sure they had some high end components BOSCH Mid-Drive brushless motors and both a cadence and torque sensors…but I couldn’t rationalize paying out that much money because it was a popular name brand or well known brand components. Anyway…it’s late and I got carried away…lol 😅happy riding…whatever you decide just remember it’s money well spent after all it’s for your own fitness and good health!
For a 2k usd bike this one actually seems wortg it compared to some of the more recent bikes we have seen, a really cool bike for the price and the modularity is so cool to see
Wow, also the Gates belt option: pros and cons between chains and Gates belt would be very interesting to know. E.g. belt maintenance-free vs. chain and how the gears work with the belt+can you drive "39mph" anymore? THE MANUFACTURER'S ONLINE STORE DOES NOT EXPLAIN TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHAIN AND BELT MODELS. SO IT IS THE CONSUMER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY WHAT WAS ORDERED?
I've Been waiting for this video. Just as I suspected. I have a whole new level of excitement. I ordered mine back in early February and should be getting it by the end of this month. 🙂
I ordered mine in February also and the bike I ordered has only gotten better at no extra cost. Yes, the excitement is building, I'm looking forward to tracking the cargo ship on it's way here. I ordered a blue one with panniers.
I got a blue one as well. So cool being able to track the ship. It shouldn't take to long to ship to me once ecells gets a hold of them. I only live about 5 hours away in california. Ecells is right by the state line.👍
@@krazykrissince1986 so it looks like you haven't received yours yet, either. This is disappointing, watching a video review about a bike that checks all the boxes, but the comments here show lots of people ordering it but nobody reporting that they have yet received it😮
Larry did you get your new E-cells bike. How do you like it? Is it everything you expected, do you have any complaints? I’m trying to decide which bike to buy, your response or any additional input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all of you for sharing your thoughts and experiences as owners of e-bikes regardless of brand (Wired vs E-Cells or otherwise) it’s all helpful information. 👍🏻
I received the 1500 Monarch I ordered and absolutely love it! I believe my dual star is due in next week. My bother bought a Freedom and quality is junk he said
@@LarrysViews So..... did you receive the E-Cell bike yet?? I'd like to order one, but people are reporting not getting theirs. A hesitate spending so much money on a bike, only to have that money disappear.
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Wired freedom but changed my mind when I saw this. Upgraded all the suspension and added a torque sensor for nearly the same money as the wired. Thank you Tail Happy for the code. 😊
A couple brands (Juiced, Euphree) have displays that let them interpret output from a torque sensor as if it were a cadence sensor. They let you switch mode depending on which you prefer to use at the time. I normally prefer the control of a torque sensor, but would use cadence sensor mode when hauling or towing a heavy trailer, tweak a knee or am simply exhausted.
Great channel. I have two LPQVIATAS 52 volt, 2200 watts e bicycles. If you review it, you’ll see it beats every bike you tested and only $1158. Thanks for a great channel. I bought these e-bicycles from the knowledge your channel thought me. It does 39mph always and hit 42mph twice throttle only. It will climb any hill you can find. I would love to see it on your channel and get your thoughts.
I was looking at comments in the Wired Freedom group on Facebook and they were complaining about the plastic cover on the controller, I made the comment that E-Cells solved this a long time ago. They removed my comment and threatened to ban me from the group. I am an E-Cells fan but I like hearing about all ebikes. What are they afraid of?
This is what i been waiting for, currently i have the Ariel kepler. It has power and range but this just took that to the next level, i am loving this new 60v trend, it is going to take the capabilitys of the ebike to the next level of range anf power. Its the bridge between the 72v ebike (basicly motorbikes) and the standard 48V ebike, and this i think is what will truly replace cars.
My buddy bought a cheap mail order ebike with a similar front axle. Front wheel came loose and he wrecked in the first week he rode it. He sold it for $600 loss after a sprained knee. I paid $2500 for a good Gazelle NL with a thru axle and Bosch mid-drive. In 1300 miles I've had one flat. Torque is much more important than wattage if you ride where there are hills. Gazelle has been around just a bit longer, since 1892.
Okay, ordered my Ecell e-bike this evening. Thanks for the code. Upgraded to the big off-road tires, gold rims, and torque sensor; blue paint on a 17" frame. However, unlike you, I will NOT be dropping my bicycle. Thanks for the video.
@@MrBalas3 Hello. Yes, I have ridden with both; I prefer a torque sensor. Bear with me; I'll do my best to explain. A cadence sensor only detects if the cranks are turning or not turning. If they are not, no power is delivered. A torque sensor does the same; no cranking - no power. However, there is a distinct difference on how the power is delivered. On my first recumbent tricycle I installed a 750-watt Bafang e-assist mid-drive motor, with nine PAS levels of assist. This particular unit is very powerful. On level one you get say 10% of available power. The motor is tame, turning at a particular speed. On level nine I got 100% of the power. The motor was a beast. This was a real problem, because on a mid-drive system the motor is not at the back wheel, it's connected directly to the crank. I had to make sure I was in the correct gear or the pedals would run away from me, leave my foot, circle around and hit me in the Achilles tendon. In other words the system did not care what gear I was in. It simply delivered 100% of what ever PAS level I had dialed up. My second trike has a torque sensor. It also has a mid-drive system, but the ride is much more manageable. I have 3 levels of PAS. Level one gives me 33% of available power, level 3 gives me 100%. However, no matter what PAS level I am on, unless I apply enough pressure onto the pedals I do not get 100% of available power. So, going up a 2% grade on level one, I get most if not all of available power on that level. If I switch to PAS level 3, my highest setting, my speed increases, pedaling becomes easier, but I do not get 100% of power available on that level. So what does that mean for you? Well, say you have a 5-level PAS system. If you are on PAS level 5 where 100% of the motor's power is available, but are going down a steep grade, you will get little or even no assist from the motor. Why? Because the torque sensor "knows" you are applying little or no pressure on the pedals. Gravity is pulling you down. You would have to switch to a much higher gear in order to get assist from the motor while going down hill. On the other hand, a cadence sensor set to its highest PAS level, will slam you down the hill at 100% of available power. It doesn't care what the grade is or what gear you are in. You want full power - you got it. Good luck! Conversely, on level ground, cruising in gear three out of ten, even with your PAS level set to its highest level, you will get little power from the motor using a torque sensor. The net result is that you can greatly increase the milage range from your battery, while keeping your energy output at a comfortable level. As always, it comes down to a matter of personal preference. Some like cadence sensors because it takes the pressure off your legs when set high enough. You just slowly turn the cranks and away you go. It's like having two throttles - one at your feet, the other on the handle bars. Some like a torque sensor because it delivers a better sense of you "riding" your bike instead of just being a passenger. No matter what, I guess the point is to enjoy the ride. Take care.
@@daveyJ213Wow. What a detailed response. Thank you for that. From what I understand of the ECell bike though the torque sensor is still in the rear hub and not a mid-drive. Would it hat not make a difference in the torque sensor not being right at the pedals?
@@MrBalas3 Unless they have made changes I am not aware of the torque sensor is in the bottom bracket. For instance, Nick, an E-cells employee, just made a video riding the exact bike which I ordered. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/KcTUrsHxEOg/w-d-xo.html. With a torque sensor enabled bike he was able to achieve well over 100 miles on a single charge. Also, "Gator" made a video showing how to swap out the torque sensor on an E-cells bike; th-cam.com/video/noXLfCijKEw/w-d-xo.html. Again, the torque sensor is in the bottom bracket, not in the hub at the back wheel. However, that's a good catch on your part, because on my 2nd tricycle I mentioned earlier, the motor and torque sensor are both located on the bottom bracket.
Nice high quality, funny video, thanks for sharing. FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1. I bet you're easily exceeding 230.
They probably should not even have the option for torque sensor on this bike as most will only think they want it. Or at least make it very clear how torque sensors don't make sense for most ebikers. On Emtb it's great but on a regular ebike, for most it defeats the purpose. I've ridden some pretty technical hiking trails with cadence, throttle and a 350w hub. Many hear torque sensors are better only to find it doesn't necessarily fit fat ebike rider who doesn't want to pedal hard.
@TheFreshPeddler I totally get that for the average fat tire rider that a cadence sensor is sufficient. But for me, I've biked a lot with both cadence and torque sensor bikes, and I personally prefer the torque sensor over the cadence sensor for the riding I like to do. Therefore I wondered how a high powered bike like this would perform with a cadence sensor. I totally agree that the cadence sensor is sufficient for most people that don't really bike a lot.
@@TheFreshPeddlerI have a cadence sensor on my Biktrix Kutty bike. I experience what I guess people call Ghost Pedaling” which I find extremely annoying. Does a torque sensor not help negate that?
Don't be afraid to place a truthful comment under her newest Wired Freedom vid! I probably wouldn't have felt that way but she new about the UL certified fraud and went with it! David at E Cells deserve to grow and more people go E cell the better Dave can get offering all kinds of good products and Those like Wired need to loose business as they can't be trusted! When u sell out the people like she is and not even bothering to research Dave's company telling people to go wired because she is making a buck is pure wrong! She even left the deceitful video up! $$$
😂😂😂 she was bashing the company and never rode the bike. And she lied and said they copied when they have been using the same frame before wired existing
i would like to see head to head comparison with Freedom and Five Star. That would answer the elephant in the room for me. The one video with the self described all knowing metal engineer seemed a bit rehearsed. I threw that out. Moreover, the Facebook posts in the Ecell groups seemed unrealistically skewed. Wired Freedom appears to display a lot of reports of loose frames, failing components, and a barrage of damaged shipments among A LOT of happy customers. Meanwhile, Ecells FB groups display much less negative experiences and not one damaged shipment. This begs the question: are Ecell FB group members fearing retaliation from the moderators of being blackballed when a return or warranty claim arises and it's aired online? I've heard much talk of intimidation. Please clarify and I truly hope my hunch is wrong. And post links to honest comparisons here not influenced by intimidation or retribution. Honesty should always prevail.
Watch my extreme durability test with the five star, wired does not recommend off-road abuse with their bikes So it might not see too many super durability test with them
@@Tom-ol5zz Exactly. The specs are the same, many upgrades available, no shipping/insurance cost (!), no sales tax. I don't know how they can beat that.
@@Tom-ol5zzIf I was dishonest like wired is I would buy this bike and set up a fake battery fire and do a video just to sway people because of being angry! Hopefully they won't stupe that low but I don't trust them! Not after lying about their UL CERTIFIED BS!
Thanks! Yesterday I cancelled my Wired Freedom order ($2,249 shipped, delivery a month or more away) and ordered a e-cells ($1,795, they have a 4th of July sale [$200 off]. Expected to arrive late this week or early next week, they ship FedEx.
@@ZulkSOD Yup. I hit 500 miles today. The rear suspension is key. Most of the time I leave it on level 3 assist (750 watts), it's always nice to hit the throttle to get up a hill fast.
Did you confirm settings were at full power ? The c5 was at 2 when you went into settings. Is c5 the max power setting like it is on the wired ? I have mine at 10 for full power
I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't look like he ever got full wattage out of the bike. Should have peaked around 2600 at full 67.2 voltage, but I only saw low 2000's. Also didn't see an honest 40 mph top speed. He had a slight tailwind and only got 37-38 without peddaling. Should hit 40 with 2600 watts and no tail wind.
@@randallhack4477 controller only lets 60v go through with 40amps of current realistically, we are looking at 2400 watts of absolute peak power, but if this is anything like the wired, 2200 to 2300 is what you'll peak at with 1800 to 1900 on continuous load.
Thanks for the "sonic" review. . Looks like you are in Santa Barbara, CA. have the E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown. TWO wheel drive, TWO batteries, DUAL suspension, 400 pound load rating (including rider weight). It is a CARGO MOUNTAIN BIKE made for hunting and off road camping. $5,100. So yeah, not a cheap bike butcwhen compared to other AWD mountain e-bikes a very reasonable price. With that price you get good quality components like Shimano DeOre 10 speed derailler and 9 torque sensing pedal assist levels and SAMSUNG Li-ion batteries. I WANT SOLID STATE BIKE BATTERIES!
Objectively why spend $600 more for a Wired Freedom, there has to be a reason? It seems this has a better frame, controller, rims, fender, warranty more stable company and brakes?
It could simply come down to demand and labor. A lot of the direct from China companies don’t have offices with sales/customer service employees. Also Wired has significant name recognition now so I imagine they sell more far than most of the mail-only e-bikes. Until their sales slip no reason for them to drop prices.
@@BumpyRide621 Maybe they have a staff in the states… I have only seen the name of their CEO. But there’s no question Wired has the recognition advantage over most of the ebike-only brands. You can also pick them up in Chicago, which has a huge e-bike user population. It’s no surprise at all why they’d cost more now. If a bunch more competitors drive down demand then of course they’ll come out with sales.
Hey Mat, great channel, and personality. Can you, in one of your next episodes, focus on lightweight ebikes, specifically for bikers who like to peddle with some additional power for speed and long distance? Thanks, and keep the episodes coming.
@mr.monitor. Damn that sucks...not to minimize what your bro went through but I knew a guy who's brother fell from a ladder only ten or twelve feet. Doing something trivial on his house. Ladder fell he fell broke his back. Wheelchair for life.
Thanks for this excellent review. After watching this and your other Five Star content I decided to order one for myself. Thanks Matt! Oh, and thanks for the discount code. ❤🙏
I've owned electric stand-up scooters and only dual motor. I want a more enjoyable experience and am interested in purchasing my first ebike. I'd like an ebike that's comfortable, easy to work on, find parts for, and has a long range. I'm not so sure about a single motor ebike, however. I was looking at the Ariel X52 step through or their Grizzly. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
1500W non-folding 38mph bike. Not bad. I still recommend folding bikes for storage and portability in cars. However its a bit of a unicorn when comparing top speed to weight. 92.6lbs. Very good for that topnspeed and range.
Wondering if I upgrade to torque sensor then do I have both since both are paid for? And if bike is equipped with both can it be programmed for use of whichever one you want to use at the time with that display?
The new Wired Freedom now comes standard with dual batteries and their new Cruiser now has dual suspension. Can't wait for you to get your hands on that one. The King of the Hill titles seem to be changing frequently.
Hey friend AT 20:09 it looks like the rear shock adjuster is hitting the battery case when flexing. You can rotate the shock in order to fix this issue
The the front fender on this bike is inadequate for preventing water from spraying up on to the bike and the rider. The front fender needs to extend much longer down behind the front wheel.
Great review! I'm mainly torn between choosing the cadence sensor or torque sensor. I figure a review with the torque sensor will pop up at some point.
@@robertstewart3086 thanks, but is it a good torque sensor. It seems different ones can have a different feel, some require more leg effort, some less effort for the same power output depending on the maker, how it's programmed ect... Wish I could test ride one but that will never happen haha.
@@tomasblackandwhite No! I requested a refund. They are all out of this particular bike. Tried to make me send them $500 more for a different bike. That was over a week ago and I still haven't heard anything from them. No response to emails.
I was about to add belt drive, and then I thought - without an internal hub gear, that must mean you only have one gear. Wish they would have been more clear about that. In the end, I stuck with chain. If I ever get rich, I'll buy a Riese Muller mid drive, with belt and internal gears 😁
@@Quidisi as usual the sellers and reviewers never go full in depth. Always something missing or unclear lol. I'm thinking about starting my own TH-cam channel so I can give people 100% info on everything.
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ecell 5 star or motor goat v3. i mostly cruise but do a little off road but I need that speed and torque because im 260 pounds, we have alot of steep hills mostly paved. what do you prefer of the two ? thx
what happens to the bikes after you review them?
@@davewarren9029 That can be a hard decision, you will have to weigh the pros and cons, I like them both, one guy on the goat said his butt hurt after 30 minutes riding the goat needs a better padding. To me I think the options on The E Cells is better and a bit more comfortable ride, adjustable seat and the ride comfort may be a bit better. Also, it looks like the e cells has much better speeds going up hill and I believe the service is much faster and better if something goes wrong. And e Cells looking like a bike and not a motorcycle with new Ebike laws I feel better riding the e cells. I think my favorites and a toss up for power would be E Cells or the Molo5 72V 15000w built in Bluetooth speaker behind the headlight is cool and will ride two or the Mosphera 72 volt which is a powerful off road on road stand or sit down scooter and it can pull a trailer, military use them as well. I like it because you can add a seat and very portable powerful fast and great in the woods incredible suspension. I don't know but for value and service I would go with E cells. Not sure yet which one I will end up with as it's a hard decision.
@quantumfx2677 biggest turn off for e cells and wired was the 26 inch wheels ..their just to big of a bike for me and others..they need a 24 inch verson..that's one of the reasons I went with the billy goat..and I wanted more top speed than both I mentioned..
@@evewilliams5017Ecells Five Star bike does offer 24" wheels. My concern is by lowering the ground clearance 1" the chance of pedal strikes might increase.
Nice to see more powerful ebikes that still look like bicycles
#wheelie #wheeliefast #wheeliefun #wheeliebareassnaked
Too bad the actual production models are only getting 37mph top speed and the frame is faulty with the shock hitting the battery. Matt must have gotten a special treatment sample from the honest folks at e cells. New Wired Freedom and Cruiser also look like bikes, but have 1000 more watts and destroy e cells on every performance metric and are less expensive even without breaking the law by not paying sales tax.
@@jfly2249 anything over 28mph is illegal so ....
I thought they where both
FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.
Now that you have ridden both the
E-Cell Five Star and the Wired Freedom, which would you go back to ride as your daily ride? Thank you for the positive energy reviews!! Good vibes only. 😎🤙🏽
If you go to his YT homepage it has his listings of top bikes, the five star is number one:)
Look again trail failure😂😂😂
Great review. I like that you didn't hide anything. you mention what was upgraded on your bike and even showed the price for the upgrades. You even showed the chain coming off multiple times while explaining that the bikes that ship to customers will have dual chain guards. Great job as always.
Love your reviews sir! That metallic blue looks amazing! Saving up for one now. Thank you for your thoroughness.
Awesome video as always, everyone has been waiting for you to review this one. Apparently, it's the season for e-bike durability testing. It's insane that this bike is so customizable. Build-a-bike!
That how ebikes should be, pay for upgrades, like on a new car, motorcycle. SMART!
@@Wize817or get them for free with the upgraded Wired Freedom and Cruiser.
Dude, you are working so hard for e cells I hope you are getting stock🤣🤣🤣. Not a good look if you want to be seen as an objective reviewer. Beware of people with low ethics, not to mention felons and ex cons, your reputation is your best asset. E cells is simply not competitive vs new Wired bikes, you bet on the wrong horse.
@@jfly2249 ive seen multiple reviews saying the E cells is slightly better in everyway. just not as popular
FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1.
Yay!!! I asked and you delivered us the E-Cells 5-star review! I've been wanting to see this against the wired freedom and I think I've been sold on this one for a while now👍
I have the freedom.... almost the same bike. Freedom was 2300 after the shipping
@@joeschmuckatelli3198How has it held up? Thanks
The New King indeed. Seems to be all pluses for this bike. I ordered one already with a torque sensor and a few other options. This video made me realize the torque sensor adds some safety since the accident in the video would not happen with one installed. Not a lot of reviewers would have left that part in the video. Great honest review.
Glad I read the comments. Yours will help the industry go with torque sensors instead of cadence to avoid lawsuits due to negligence in not mentioning the chain/pedal assist danger.
The new Tiger King maybe😂😂😂. Just watch what happens to e cells😮 If they are so big, why don’t they collect tax in any state? Because they haven’t sold many bikes. They are about to literally implode. I wouldn’t trust the Tiger King with $5.
how long did it take for your bike to arrive?
How do you like the torque sensor? I have a cadence sensor on a Biktrix bike and some serious ghost riding which is very annoying.
does there state charge state taxes?@@jfly2249
I bought this bike solely based on your reviews. I also emailed them and let them know that very thing. Keep up the great work and all of the entertainment.
Man, you’ve been burning the candle from both ends lately for as many reviews as you’ve been pushing out. Thanks for sharing and for your content!
I got mine in June 2024. I love it after 1000 miles, in January 2025.
It will do 40, I have had it up to 44. I weigh 230lbs. It gets to 35 quickly, and has enough power to ride around on 25mph roads in the DC suburbs without getting run over by traffic. Worth every penny.
Thanks for the great review! Very thorough and even included your mishap, which I appreciate. I've been on the fence about getting this ebike, but your video was the push I needed. I dropped the dime on one today! Thanks again!
@snowking55 have you received your bike?
I'm thinking about ordering, but some people are still waiting for their shipment. Not sure why.
@@RonWrightwrites Yeah I finally received it. It took 90 days, and no $200 refund. It's a great bike, just too bad you have to wait so long. I ordered a Buchda U8 for my wife and received it in 7 days. Ecells needs to start stocking more bikes so the customer doesn't have to wait.
way to go TailHappy the most outstanding review. I bought one super value top-notch review.
Reaaallly need you to unlock the full power and do another top speed test.
Awesome Job Matt! Fantastic bike and great company! You cracked me up good fixing that chain lol!
Was waiting for this review. Might buy this tbh looks fire
Already ordered mine in the blue with gold rims! Can't wait! And when I called ECells to ask a question on a Friday at closing time I spoke to the owner who talked to me for 30 minutes AFTER closing time. I ordered my bike that night.
What would the addition of the torque sensor do? Great review as always. I love the energy you put into your reviews.
Torque sensor senses how much power you're putting into the pedaling and adjusting power to match. Since he was barely moving the pedal, the torque sensor probably wouldn't have even started up.
They have issues on the 5 stars save your money
@@joshread3740 depends on the sensor. But idk which this bike uses.
What issues do they have on it?@gabrielcortez3053
I love the dual crown forks. Makes it look so much more sportier & awesome looking. I’m getting one. I’m 54 & exited as heck.
I'M 55 and happy to see really good suspension! Comfort is very much missing in many of these Ebikes! They nailed it. Also added your own comfort seat is a bonus! Get a second battery because when a bike is comfortable you always want to ride!
Their options list you showed, is superb. I like the choice of tyres, especially the road tyre. Offering Tannus Armour, either separate or fitted is a highlight and definitely yes for me. Overall ability to up-spec is great.
Knobby tires on the road can be a good thing. When I'm approaching pedestrians from behind I don't have to use the bell anymore. The unique noise of Nobby tires on the road draws the attention of pedestrians from quite a distance.
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Thank you for the code and excellent reviews for this and the Wired Freedom. Free shipping sealed the deal and enabled me to upgrade to a torque sensor andsuspension.
Props on taking into the sand - im sold !!
My question would be, what would the bike you have cost? Please answer 😢
4 months and still waiting on my bike!!! Answer your phone ECELLS!!
Does any one have up date on when there gonna ship out?
They answered my call when I had a question just over a week ago. Super easy to get in touch with no wait time for me.
Edit: I went with a Ride1Up 700 series though since all of E-Cells bikes are too big to bring on the bus bike racks where I live.
I didn’t get my bike either. They will not answer or return calls. It’s a scam
They only answer if you hit 1 for new order. Then they will say rachel is busy and cannot give you a refund right now. Scam scam scam. Very elaborate and well thought out scam
Company is in Vegas. Nobody rides fucking bikes in Vegas
Ecells raising the price a few hundred while wired freedom is throwing in an extra battery for free. It's no longer a difficult decision.
Perfect timing with that coupon bro! I'm buying one friday!
How are you liking it?
Please review the new 2024 Wired Freedom with Dual batteries and other improvements.
Always love your reviews! Almost pulled the trigger on a wired freedom 4 weeks ago and held off and discovered Ecells. Def glad that I waited and ordered last week. Thank you for confirming my thoughts on my purchase and can’t wait to be riding! I am an avid mountain biker and motorcycle rider and I truly believe this “sleeper” is the perfect bridge between the two!
Keep up your amazing and honest reviews! You help so many people who are entering the e-bike world become educated and help decide which style of bike fits their needs. Thank you! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
What made you choose this over the Wired Freedom? I am thinking about getting either one in the next few months if nothing better comes out, but torn between the two.
@@kl3664Did you decide?
@@MrBalas3 Went with the V2 Freedom. I have heard there may be some problems with the version 2 Freedom (some wobbling) and that the customer service over there may not be as good, but a lot of it seems to be stirred up by drama queens in the e-bike world; there is one channel in particular where it almost seems targeted. Newer companies are likely to have more issues, but I can be DIY if needed. I know Ecells has been in business a bit longer and more trusted, but I don't like the designs nor name as much. Also V2 Freedom has the extra battery, which prompted me to go with the Freedom. It apparently just shipped so I am hoping to get it within the next week.
Edit: Ecells does have free shipping and a double sided chain protector apparently, and other upgrades that are worth a consideration! Overall Ecells might be the right way to go, but for my first Ebike, I am okay with going with the Freedom (plan to upgrade it to 72V/100amp at some point too)
@@kl3664Solid answer. All the added options from ECells may make for a better bike, but keeps bringing the price up too. Agree that don’t really like the name either. Hope you enjoy the bike.
@@kl3664I’m too am another torn and undecided hopeful trying to decide which bike to buy…it’s unfortunate to see so many different comments and reviews.
It seems like two brands of bikes are very similar in many respects the Wired Freedom and the E-Cells 5 Star BOTH appear to be fantastic bikes.
I’m still learning and closely reviewing both bikes, to be honest they sure make it tough to decide b/c both bikes seem to keep improving and or come with upgraded equipment.
I’m certainly not complaining…that competitive spirit is good for the consumer.
I’m a first time (soon to be) buyer of an e-bike, sure there are several factors that are important to me in deciding which bike to buy, but I think it’s subjective…everybody’s wants and needs will be different.
I suppose it comes down to what you need in your bike and how you intend to use it.
I will only add that I wish these bikes both had a better designed foot pedal.
Have you seen the quick connect and prong design on the LECTRIC bikes?
I wish both bikes had a functional integrated brake light in the rear rack much like the one on the Ride1Up e-bike.
I wish both bikes came with a chain guard/guide on both sides both inside and outside.
But you can’t have it all…they both seem like a great buy compared to some of these high end e-bike manufacturers…for example I test rode 2 different e-bikes today, the Specialized was one brand and the other was Riese & Múller oh and something called a Gazelle…OMG these bikes were selling for several thousand dollars over the price of the WIRED FREEDOM and the E-Cells 5 Star.
Sure they had some high end components BOSCH Mid-Drive brushless motors and both a cadence and torque sensors…but I couldn’t rationalize paying out that much money because it was a popular name brand or well known brand components.
Anyway…it’s late and I got carried away…lol 😅happy riding…whatever you decide just remember it’s money well spent after all it’s for your own fitness and good health!
Maybe you can review another E-Cells that has the torque sensor and so compare the two.
For a 2k usd bike this one actually seems wortg it compared to some of the more recent bikes we have seen, a really cool bike for the price and the modularity is so cool to see
But the bike he is testing is MUCH more than $2k because it has so many upgrades. Would love to see a review of the base $2k bike, but this isn't it.
@@kevinbreese5739100% agreed. He references the Wired bike in the video, but the Ecell bike is much more with the options.
The review I've been waiting for! Thank you!
Wow, also the Gates belt option: pros and cons between chains and Gates belt would be very interesting to know. E.g. belt maintenance-free vs. chain and how the gears work with the belt+can you drive "39mph" anymore? THE MANUFACTURER'S ONLINE STORE DOES NOT EXPLAIN TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHAIN AND BELT MODELS. SO IT IS THE CONSUMER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY WHAT WAS ORDERED?
I bought Mine 5 days ago, cant wait to get mine. Great bike and review . So excited!!
Did you get it yet?
Better than wired freedom? Can the ugly branding on the frame be removed? Thanks 😊
Ugly for sure. No taste.
I've Been waiting for this video. Just as I suspected. I have a whole new level of excitement. I ordered mine back in early February and should be getting it by the end of this month. 🙂
I ordered mine in February also and the bike I ordered has only gotten better at no extra cost. Yes, the excitement is building, I'm looking forward to tracking the cargo ship on it's way here. I ordered a blue one with panniers.
I got a blue one as well. So cool being able to track the ship. It shouldn't take to long to ship to me once ecells gets a hold of them. I only live about 5 hours away in california. Ecells is right by the state line.👍
@@krazykrissince1986 so it looks like you haven't received yours yet, either.
This is disappointing, watching a video review about a bike that checks all the boxes, but the comments here show lots of people ordering it but nobody reporting that they have yet received it😮
Awesome review Matt! I ordered mine a couple weeks ago and can't wait to get it. Keep up with all the great reviews!
Larry did you get your new E-cells bike. How do you like it?
Is it everything you expected, do you have any complaints?
I’m trying to decide which bike to buy, your response or any additional input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all of you for sharing your thoughts and experiences as owners of e-bikes regardless of brand (Wired vs E-Cells or otherwise) it’s all helpful information. 👍🏻
I received the 1500 Monarch I ordered and absolutely love it! I believe my dual star is due in next week. My bother bought a Freedom and quality is junk he said
@@LarrysViews So..... did you receive the E-Cell bike yet??
I'd like to order one, but people are reporting not getting theirs.
A hesitate spending so much money on a bike, only to have that money disappear.
You said you would address the torque sensor more in the video. Would you recommend it or not? Great video Crash!
Seems like torque sensor almost a requirement with all that power.
75 days later still no bike it’s a shame how long it takes for these bikes to come
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Wired freedom but changed my mind when I saw this. Upgraded all the suspension and added a torque sensor for nearly the same money as the wired. Thank you Tail Happy for the code. 😊
Question.. when you add the torque sensor ,do you keep your cadence sensor as well and choose which one you want to set it to use at that time?
@@stevenwilliams4343no, it's cadence or torque sensor, not both
A couple brands (Juiced, Euphree) have displays that let them interpret output from a torque sensor as if it were a cadence sensor. They let you switch mode depending on which you prefer to use at the time. I normally prefer the control of a torque sensor, but would use cadence sensor mode when hauling or towing a heavy trailer, tweak a knee or am simply exhausted.
@@chow-chihuang4903 true, it is one thing I like about the Discover 2 bike
That's why reach is a good thing before buying anything!
Great channel. I have two LPQVIATAS 52 volt, 2200 watts e bicycles. If you review it, you’ll see it beats every bike you tested and only $1158. Thanks for a great channel. I bought these e-bicycles from the knowledge your channel thought me. It does 39mph always and hit 42mph twice throttle only. It will climb any hill you can find. I would love to see it on your channel and get your thoughts.
Great review ! ... Do ECELLS ship to the UK ?
We ship FOB all over the world
Hey Matt I got my bike yesterday! and I want to thank you for the Code you provided ! So Thanks again.
Thanks for using my link, happy riding and be safe out there, this machine is not a child’s toy
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I was looking at comments in the Wired Freedom group on Facebook and they were complaining about the plastic cover on the controller, I made the comment that E-Cells solved this a long time ago. They removed my comment and threatened to ban me from the group.
I am an E-Cells fan but I like hearing about all ebikes. What are they afraid of?
This is what i been waiting for, currently i have the Ariel kepler. It has power and range but this just took that to the next level, i
am loving this new 60v trend, it is going to take the capabilitys of the ebike to the next level of range anf power. Its the bridge between the 72v ebike (basicly motorbikes) and the standard 48V ebike, and this i think is what will truly replace cars.
Have you seen the newly added options? Talking about belt drive and 24 inch wheels
Does belt drive make it a single speed?
My buddy bought a cheap mail order ebike with a similar front axle. Front wheel came loose and he wrecked in the first week he rode it. He sold it for $600 loss after a sprained knee. I paid $2500 for a good Gazelle NL with a thru axle and Bosch mid-drive. In 1300 miles I've had one flat. Torque is much more important than wattage if you ride where there are hills. Gazelle has been around just a bit longer, since 1892.
Cool story bro
Geared hub motor 141Nm of torque. More than many mid drives.
getting close to motorcycle torque, unsafe without thru axle
@@scottrichards3587 Excellent point. Yah EVERY class 3 ebike should have a thru axle, esp. with speeds over 28mph! Its cheap fix.
1892 wow they must know their stuff.
The Wired Freedom bike has left the building!
Wired Freedom suck if you have a warranty claim. You will be ignored.
@@willybrown55what did you try to warranty?
Yea, I was thinking the same thing 😂 only thing is, after you upgrade this bike, it's 3k + 🤣
@@shanew7361, I was wondering what all those upgrades would run.
Wrong. Bare bones nothing bike... for 2k, not the best way to spend one's money.
After much research and watching this video a couple dozen times, I decided this is the ebike I'm going to get
Yo Matt ! how about a little change of scenery fom Skid row and go south down into Huntington- Newport area !
Great review as always. I did the same thing on one of my ebikes, only with my hand. Sprained my wrist...I learned PAS 0 was important that day.
Hold your brake in, it kills the motor
Okay, ordered my Ecell e-bike this evening. Thanks for the code. Upgraded to the big off-road tires, gold rims, and torque sensor; blue paint on a 17" frame. However, unlike you, I will NOT be dropping my bicycle. Thanks for the video.
@DASO_MILITIA After watching again, I think you may be right.
Curious about the torque sensor. Ride much different than a cadence sensor if you happen to have ridden one with a cadence sensor?
@@MrBalas3 Hello. Yes, I have ridden with both; I prefer a torque sensor. Bear with me; I'll do my best to explain. A cadence sensor only detects if the cranks are turning or not turning. If they are not, no power is delivered. A torque sensor does the same; no cranking - no power. However, there is a distinct difference on how the power is delivered. On my first recumbent tricycle I installed a 750-watt Bafang e-assist mid-drive motor, with nine PAS levels of assist. This particular unit is very powerful. On level one you get say 10% of available power. The motor is tame, turning at a particular speed. On level nine I got 100% of the power. The motor was a beast. This was a real problem, because on a mid-drive system the motor is not at the back wheel, it's connected directly to the crank. I had to make sure I was in the correct gear or the pedals would run away from me, leave my foot, circle around and hit me in the Achilles tendon. In other words the system did not care what gear I was in. It simply delivered 100% of what ever PAS level I had dialed up.
My second trike has a torque sensor. It also has a mid-drive system, but the ride is much more manageable. I have 3 levels of PAS. Level one gives me 33% of available power, level 3 gives me 100%. However, no matter what PAS level I am on, unless I apply enough pressure onto the pedals I do not get 100% of available power. So, going up a 2% grade on level one, I get most if not all of available power on that level. If I switch to PAS level 3, my highest setting, my speed increases, pedaling becomes easier, but I do not get 100% of power available on that level.
So what does that mean for you? Well, say you have a 5-level PAS system. If you are on PAS level 5 where 100% of the motor's power is available, but are going down a steep grade, you will get little or even no assist from the motor. Why? Because the torque sensor "knows" you are applying little or no pressure on the pedals. Gravity is pulling you down. You would have to switch to a much higher gear in order to get assist from the motor while going down hill. On the other hand, a cadence sensor set to its highest PAS level, will slam you down the hill at 100% of available power. It doesn't care what the grade is or what gear you are in. You want full power - you got it. Good luck!
Conversely, on level ground, cruising in gear three out of ten, even with your PAS level set to its highest level, you will get little power from the motor using a torque sensor. The net result is that you can greatly increase the milage range from your battery, while keeping your energy output at a comfortable level.
As always, it comes down to a matter of personal preference. Some like cadence sensors because it takes the pressure off your legs when set high enough. You just slowly turn the cranks and away you go. It's like having two throttles - one at your feet, the other on the handle bars. Some like a torque sensor because it delivers a better sense of you "riding" your bike instead of just being a passenger. No matter what, I guess the point is to enjoy the ride. Take care.
@@daveyJ213Wow. What a detailed response. Thank you for that. From what I understand of the ECell bike though the torque sensor is still in the rear hub and not a mid-drive. Would it hat not make a difference in the torque sensor not being right at the pedals?
@@MrBalas3 Unless they have made changes I am not aware of the torque sensor is in the bottom bracket. For instance, Nick, an E-cells employee, just made a video riding the exact bike which I ordered. Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/KcTUrsHxEOg/w-d-xo.html. With a torque sensor enabled bike he was able to achieve well over 100 miles on a single charge. Also, "Gator" made a video showing how to swap out the torque sensor on an E-cells bike; th-cam.com/video/noXLfCijKEw/w-d-xo.html. Again, the torque sensor is in the bottom bracket, not in the hub at the back wheel. However, that's a good catch on your part, because on my 2nd tricycle I mentioned earlier, the motor and torque sensor are both located on the bottom bracket.
I see on the ecells website they list 24" tires and wheels as an upgrade at no cost. Anybody have pics of the smaller wheels on this bike?
Now thats AWESOME! The size option, of course they shouldnt charge more for it. But love the customizations of the this bike!
I'm betting if you go to a smaller tire. You'll get "peddle strike" going around corners.
@@stevegriffith7236 Doubt it. Peddle strike is only issue with extra long cranks. Standard cranks fit 26 as 20 in ebikes.
Nice high quality, funny video, thanks for sharing. FYI, I found out from David Cleavland himself Hentach recommends not exceeding 230 degrees Fahrenheit motor temperature. To turn on motor temp, on the display set C8 to 1. I bet you're easily exceeding 230.
I would like to see you review this same bike with a Torque Sensor
What do you thinks better this one or the wired bike my first electric bike thanks
This looks like an awesome bike, it would be interesting to see how the torque sensor did on this powerful of bike
They probably should not even have the option for torque sensor on this bike as most will only think they want it. Or at least make it very clear how torque sensors don't make sense for most ebikers.
On Emtb it's great but on a regular ebike, for most it defeats the purpose.
I've ridden some pretty technical hiking trails with cadence, throttle and a 350w hub.
Many hear torque sensors are better only to find it doesn't necessarily fit fat ebike rider who doesn't want to pedal hard.
@TheFreshPeddler I totally get that for the average fat tire rider that a cadence sensor is sufficient. But for me, I've biked a lot with both cadence and torque sensor bikes, and I personally prefer the torque sensor over the cadence sensor for the riding I like to do. Therefore I wondered how a high powered bike like this would perform with a cadence sensor.
I totally agree that the cadence sensor is sufficient for most people that don't really bike a lot.
@@TheFreshPeddlerI have a cadence sensor on my Biktrix Kutty bike. I experience what I guess people call Ghost Pedaling” which I find extremely annoying. Does a torque sensor not help negate that?
I see no customizing on their website..Backorder only No options available.
Electrified Latina is probably eating crow right now😂
Losing her mind
Don't be afraid to place a truthful comment under her newest Wired Freedom vid! I probably wouldn't have felt that way but she new about the UL certified fraud and went with it! David at E Cells deserve to grow and more people go E cell the better Dave can get offering all kinds of good products and Those like Wired need to loose business as they can't be trusted! When u sell out the people like she is and not even bothering to research Dave's company telling people to go wired because she is making a buck is pure wrong! She even left the deceitful video up! $$$
Excuse me!?!?
Please be more polite
LOL
😂😂😂 she was bashing the company and never rode the bike. And she lied and said they copied when they have been using the same frame before wired existing
Potted controller is nice. This ebike looks high quality
what is a potted controller? Is that just a cover for the controller?
@@paulh6517it's inside a big glob of hardened resin, so it's waterproofed, and can't vibrate and crack connections easily.
How does this modern, powerful, amazing e-bike compare to Wired Freedom? I request opinion from experts.
This bike is $2195 now so apparently they're just baking the shipping cost into the MSRP now.
i would like to see head to head comparison with Freedom and Five Star. That would answer the elephant in the room for me. The one video with the self described all knowing metal engineer seemed a bit rehearsed. I threw that out. Moreover, the Facebook posts in the Ecell groups seemed unrealistically skewed. Wired Freedom appears to display a lot of reports of loose frames, failing components, and a barrage of damaged shipments among A LOT of happy customers. Meanwhile, Ecells FB groups display much less negative experiences and not one damaged shipment. This begs the question: are Ecell FB group members fearing retaliation from the moderators of being blackballed when a return or warranty claim arises and it's aired online? I've heard much talk of intimidation. Please clarify and I truly hope my hunch is wrong. And post links to honest comparisons here not influenced by intimidation or retribution. Honesty should always prevail.
Watch my extreme durability test with the five star, wired does not recommend off-road abuse with their bikes So it might not see too many super durability test with them
I think they will be "CHAMPION"!
It never gets old I laugh everytime I hear it.
Excellent review. Matt always gives quality reviews. Very cool that this bike is made in Nevada and the town that I live in.
ECells is Made In China.
Got my five-star king bike this month! Yeah boy!😎
Hey duuuude! Go into settings and change C5 from 2 to 10. It controls the amps. C14 on 3 for max take off power
I noticed that as well...
Do you know if the settings are explained in the manual that comes with the bike?
Do you know of a site that explains the settings?
Just ordered one using your promo code! So excited!
I have a 2024 Wired Freedom, which I love. I'm afraid Wired is in trouble now. The Five Star will be my next one.
Yup, it looks exactly like a Wired freedom, but customizable with many more options. Very interesting
@@Tom-ol5zz Exactly. The specs are the same, many upgrades available, no shipping/insurance cost (!), no sales tax. I don't know how they can beat that.
@@ishgumi44 They cant unless this bike suddenly burst into flame lmao
@@Tom-ol5zzIf I was dishonest like wired is I would buy this bike and set up a fake battery fire and do a video just to sway people because of being angry! Hopefully they won't stupe that low but I don't trust them! Not after lying about their UL CERTIFIED BS!
Thanks! Yesterday I cancelled my Wired Freedom order ($2,249 shipped, delivery a month or more away) and ordered a e-cells ($1,795, they have a 4th of July sale [$200 off]. Expected to arrive late this week or early next week, they ship FedEx.
Did you get it?
@@ZulkSOD Yes. Shipped on July 5th, arrived on July 11th.
@@Hubjeep are you super satisified
@@ZulkSOD Yup. I hit 500 miles today. The rear suspension is key. Most of the time I leave it on level 3 assist (750 watts), it's always nice to hit the throttle to get up a hill fast.
Did you confirm settings were at full power ? The c5 was at 2 when you went into settings. Is c5 the max power setting like it is on the wired ? I have mine at 10 for full power
It would still be full power on that case, but just slower ramp up is all
I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't look like he ever got full wattage out of the bike. Should have peaked around 2600 at full 67.2 voltage, but I only saw low 2000's. Also didn't see an honest 40 mph top speed. He had a slight tailwind and only got 37-38 without peddaling. Should hit 40 with 2600 watts and no tail wind.
@@randallhack4477 controller only lets 60v go through with 40amps of current realistically, we are looking at 2400 watts of absolute peak power, but if this is anything like the wired, 2200 to 2300 is what you'll peak at with 1800 to 1900 on continuous load.
Thanks for the "sonic" review. . Looks like you are in Santa Barbara, CA. have the E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown. TWO wheel drive, TWO batteries, DUAL suspension, 400 pound load rating (including rider weight). It is a CARGO MOUNTAIN BIKE made for hunting and off road camping. $5,100. So yeah, not a cheap bike butcwhen compared to other AWD mountain e-bikes a very reasonable price. With that price you get good quality components like Shimano DeOre 10 speed derailler and 9 torque sensing pedal assist levels and SAMSUNG Li-ion batteries.
I WANT SOLID STATE BIKE BATTERIES!
Awesome review of this power house bike 🚴 everyone that buys this bike is going to get their money’s worth 😊
Dude you are a stuntman! LOL! 😄 Fun video and thanks for this review. This bike is a speed machine. I need to watch your video on the Nomad 1.
Anyone know when they are shipping bikes out? Been waiting 4 months no update and they took the payment already
Objectively why spend $600 more for a Wired Freedom, there has to be a reason? It seems this has a better frame, controller, rims, fender, warranty more stable company and brakes?
It could simply come down to demand and labor. A lot of the direct from China companies don’t have offices with sales/customer service employees. Also Wired has significant name recognition now so I imagine they sell more far than most of the mail-only e-bikes. Until their sales slip no reason for them to drop prices.
@@HawkAlumnThis company is US veteran owned and located in Nevada, been around 3 years longer than wired and had 5 different models
@@BumpyRide621 Maybe they have a staff in the states… I have only seen the name of their CEO. But there’s no question Wired has the recognition advantage over most of the ebike-only brands. You can also pick them up in Chicago, which has a huge e-bike user population. It’s no surprise at all why they’d cost more now. If a bunch more competitors drive down demand then of course they’ll come out with sales.
The 100 amp controller on the Wired Freedom is a pretty significant upgrade in my opinion, but I haven't ridden either of these bikes.
@@amosbatto3051100a controller?
Hey Mat, great channel, and personality. Can you, in one of your next episodes, focus on lightweight ebikes, specifically for bikers who like to peddle with some additional power for speed and long distance? Thanks, and keep the episodes coming.
Sometime this summer perhaps, checkout my Velotric T1ST review - it’s like the best lightweight pedal focused fitness ebike I’ve tried
19:02 , thank you ass always. Ur a real 1
Was there a bike after this, I must have missed it.
Seems like every New Bike is the New King ! 😮😊
Lesson learned. Power off when working on chain or crank... that could have ended real bad if you would have hit someone.
My brother lost his index finger on a motorcycle chain.
@mr.monitor. Damn that sucks...not to minimize what your bro went through but I knew a guy who's brother fell from a ladder only ten or twelve feet. Doing something trivial on his house. Ladder fell he fell broke his back. Wheelchair for life.
Thanks for this excellent review. After watching this and your other Five Star content I decided to order one for myself. Thanks Matt! Oh, and thanks for the discount code. ❤🙏
I still want a motor goat!! I’m a 20” fan! 😅
Better bike but it’s gonna attract cops
I've owned electric stand-up scooters and only dual motor. I want a more enjoyable experience and am interested in purchasing my first ebike. I'd like an ebike that's comfortable, easy to work on, find parts for, and has a long range. I'm not so sure about a single motor ebike, however. I was looking at the Ariel X52 step through or their Grizzly. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
24:00 Rule number 1, always cut off power if your bike has a cadence sensor.
Or hold your brake lever
0:55 what a beautiful beach!
My wired freedom will be my street bike. This will be my off-road bike.
Make sure you get the off toad tires
Yes, the suspension is that good!
1500W non-folding 38mph bike. Not bad. I still recommend folding bikes for storage and portability in cars. However its a bit of a unicorn when comparing top speed to weight. 92.6lbs. Very good for that topnspeed and range.
22:40 Thanks for keeping in some of the local flavor in the video.
19:01 I would get distracted and crash.
GTAV NPC
That guy is NOT a Champion.
What did he say before, "I'll kill you on-sight"? It was "I'll ... I'll say!"
@@pablownc2744thought I was the only one.
Wondering if I upgrade to torque sensor then do I have both since both are paid for?
And if bike is equipped with both can it be programmed for use of whichever one you want to use at the time with that display?
The new Wired Freedom now comes standard with dual batteries and their new Cruiser now has dual suspension. Can't wait for you to get your hands on that one. The King of the Hill titles seem to be changing frequently.
Waiting for THAT video is hard to do.
You forgot to mention potted controller you can Floor it all day long and not have to worry about overheating
@@povertybay3260 He doesn't have to. Because we want the crazy guy to do the california incline and test them brakes.
You need to call Wired and verify delivery date.
Also ask them about their UL Rating.
Hey friend
AT 20:09 it looks like the rear shock adjuster is hitting the battery case when flexing. You can rotate the shock in order to fix this issue
😂 this bike is going to get us all in trouble,!
I am 5'7. Which would fit me better the Ecells 6 or the Wired Freedom?
The the front fender on this bike is inadequate for preventing water from spraying up on to the bike and the rider. The front fender needs to extend much longer down behind the front wheel.
Once I get the chance to be able to buy one of your high scored bikes, I’d be thrilled. This bike seems great, like most the bikes you review
Great review! I'm mainly torn between choosing the cadence sensor or torque sensor. I figure a review with the torque sensor will pop up at some point.
Torque sensor is worth every penny. Trust me you WILL enjoy your bike more!
@@robertstewart3086 thanks, but is it a good torque sensor. It seems different ones can have a different feel, some require more leg effort, some less effort for the same power output depending on the maker, how it's programmed ect... Wish I could test ride one but that will never happen haha.
Yes...3 close calls...sounded like he lost a ⚙️ gear.
Great video.
Placed an order 4 months ago. Still no bike!!! No one answers the phone or responds to emails. BUYER BEWARE!!
Did you receive your bike yet and how was the customer service?
@@tomasblackandwhite No! I requested a refund. They are all out of this particular bike. Tried to make me send them $500 more for a different bike. That was over a week ago and I still haven't heard anything from them. No response to emails.
@@Wts105Wow what BS.
If you order the better shock and forks, do they come installed on the bike?
If you add Gates belt drive does it mean it becomes a single speed bike?
Yes
I was about to add belt drive, and then I thought - without an internal hub gear, that must mean you only have one gear.
Wish they would have been more clear about that.
In the end, I stuck with chain.
If I ever get rich, I'll buy a Riese Muller mid drive, with belt and internal gears 😁
@@Quidisi as usual the sellers and reviewers never go full in depth. Always something missing or unclear lol. I'm thinking about starting my own TH-cam channel so I can give people 100% info on everything.