Rakata: We killed them... We killed them all... They're all dead. Every single one of them... And not just the Kwa... but the Gree and the Killiks, too...
The Rakatans are a bit of an interesting aspect of lore for SW. The idea of an all conquering empire isn't new in SW or RL but the idea of such an overwhelming empire so powerful and undefeatable just suddenly retracting into nothingness is nutty.
Well, they used the force exclusively to power their technology and for that and perhaps other reasons their empire was scattered all over the galaxy but on relatively few worlds, with vast gaps among them. Nowhere near as large or encompassing as the republic or galactic empire later were. But in their time, and due to the force, a monumental terror. Making them so force-dependent and having it be a 'force-plague' that kills them off, or reduces them to helpless and eventually devolved remnants is reasonably consistent with later lore, and with the idea that the force can sometimes act "on its own" in some way, not necessarily consciously. Plus it fits with the occasional historical example of civilizations brought low by medical or environmental factors.
My theory is that the force cut them off from itself because they're destructive nature was creating an cosmic imbalance in the force, by doing that Doomed their empire and restored a semblance of balance to the force. They were basically the Assyrians of the Star Wars universe, they make the sith look reasonable in comparison.
You know the well researched interesting videos aside I cannot stress how much I love the deadpan humor injected into them. Seriously gets me to smile everytime
The Rakatan Infinite Empire is a example of how the Dark Side always leads to ruin for any great empire. The abuse, destruction, and enslavement of the Galaxy caused ripples to spread in the force, and the Force responded by unleashing the force cutting plague onto the Rakatans thus destroying their foul empire in a span of a single generation.
The dark side is effective as a tool to channel the force but untempered from its excess by reason or common sense it will backfire on the one that indulges in it.
I am fascinated by the tale of a slave revolt on a beautiful tropical world in the Outer Rim. The Rakata blasted the planet from orbit, creating a desert. And the human natives that survived evolved into two disparate species. Both shrouded themselves in heavy cloth to prevent any exposure. But one grew small, with glowing eyes. Tatooine.
The Rakata were not having it with them niggas bruh. I'm very surprised the Sith species didn't get exterminated from the difficulties and strife they brought upon the Infinite Empire.
Tatooine had 4 sentient species living in harmony before Rakatans blasted the planet. Only two survived the desert. I do not know where you are getting that Jawas and Sand People had same ancestry, that is a bit of lore I have never encountered.
@@Matej_Sojka Not sure where "4 Sentient Species on Tatooine" comes from, but there is some lore that explains (In an in-universe theory, anyway) that they do have a shared ancestry. • According to "Jawas" from The New Essential Guide to Alien Species: "Some theories contend that both Jawas, and their neighbors, The Tusken Raiders, descended from an ancient species known as The Kumumgah (Weird name, I know), while others insist that Jawas evolved from rodents." • As for "Tusken Raiders" from the same book: "This nomadic people was the dominant sentient species on Tatooine before settlers began to colonize the world during the days of The Old Republic. The Jawas, the only other sentients on this planet, while more intelligent, were not as large, or fierce as their brutal neighbors, although there is some scientific evidence that suggests the two groups may both be from the same species, an ancient race known as The Kumumgah. (Try to resist saying that 5 times fast, in a very silly voice. Good Luck!)" So, if that's not proof (Even in an unsure/theoretical sense) from the lore of their shared ancestry, I don't know what to tell you. Check up Wookieepedia, or somehow contact Ann Margaret Lewis, and Helen Keier (The Authors of this book) for more info. That's all I can say.
@@gehrigstory6674 The Old Republic MMO has a mission on Tatooine where as Jedi Consular you track down crazed rogue Jedi Master on Tatooine. He researched survival techniques in harsh environments and studied Tatooine history to figure out which strategy was more successful, Jawas and their scavenging without understanding of personal ownership or Tuskens with their violent xenofobia and close knitted clan culture. When he explains all this he talks about how two other native species of Tatooine did not survive the desertification, which a lot of Tatooine lore talks about. After enslaved locals they had uprising against Rakata and they retaliated by chugging something into the planet that causes the local metals to be worthless for any serious use and the impact changed the climate, turning once verdant a lush world into desert. And because same particle field that they deployed to alter metals negatively affect technology over time using traditional terraforming is not an option. That is why you have moisture farming as primary source of income for locals, the vaporators are apparently low tech enough to be profitable in long term, why Jawas always have customers for their refurbished droids and tech and why there are so many junkyards on the planet despite not being repair or manufacturing center and being a visiting spot only for the desperate. It is also the reason why Tuskens hate offworlders, their spoken history is all bout how their world was destroyed by them.
@@Matej_Sojka So, there's a lore inconsistency, here? Or, maybe a retcon? My quote on The Tusken Raiders from The New Essential Guide to Alien Species clearly stated that they, and Jawas were the only sentient species on Tatooine before off-worlders got involved. Maybe SWTOR changed that lore, later on, I don't know. I've never played that game before to ever find out. Edit: Plus, that doesn't explain the whole "Shared Ancestry" thing. If Tatooine is cursed to be low-tech forever (Doubtful, with Jawa Sandcrawlers, repulsorlift craft, and other high-tech things operating well on this world quite fine), how does that explain Jawas, and Tusken Raiders not being related? Just a curious question.
I'm getting a lot of storybeats from these guys and Mass Effect's Protheans. It's interesting how similar they are from their obsession with Galactic enslavement, to their affinity for using the force (with literal Dark Energy), to even having remarkably similar appearances. I guess it makes sense due to Bioware creating both species, but it's still kind of cool how one idea can be applied in wildly different universes.
Not to mention that their role in early galactic history is very similar to that of The Forerunners in Halo. An (More or less) evil species that overthrew the ruling empire of another great alien power before them (Precursors/Celestials, or at least Kwa), ruled the galaxy in their stead for a long time, then their empire falls apart due to a dangerous plague (Rakatan Plague/The Flood), they're rendered into a mostly obsolete shell of their former selves, and Humanity from then on takes their place as the most dominant species in the galaxy in the future (Under The Galactic Republic, and future governments; or Humanity in The UNSC, Post-Covenant War). Any more proof that The Rakata rip-off other Sci-Fi universes?
My point was that the Protheans were possibly an expansion on the Rakata which Bioware also created back in Kotor. The premise of a long lost society creating the galaxy as we know it and influencing our way of life is as old as the film 2001 A Space Odyssey and possibly further. From Stargate to Halo to Star Trek, Scifi ran with this concept in their own way and it has been a popular story idea for quite some time. In fact, prior to Halo 4, the Forerunners weren't as fleshed out or the reasons for their disappearance explained, so you could say Halo borrowed some concepts from Kotor, but really they were more inspiration for eachother instead of plagiarism.
Back then, I was awed by them and maybe even feared them. Nowadays, I think of them as eyeroll-worthy butt-monkeys, especially since recent Legends material actually showed that they didn't even rule millions of planets... they only ruled just a thousand, or so I've heard. Think of that what you will. And then there's their actual origins from *Gungan* gene enhancements from the Old Ones.
Was there supposed to be such a long black screen starting from 0:14 - 0:31? Great vid btw! Idk why but when they popped up in KOTOR, their language freaked me out... 🤣 Rakatan's are a cool species.
I think the "plague" that took out majority of Rakata numbers before they lost their connection to the Force might have been Esh-ka. SWTOR suggest as much, the Esh-ka lore says Rakatans used "plague" as the term to refer to them because of their numbers, the solid, nearly incorruptible social structure and combat prowess. Also, during SWTOR game play, especially on Belsavis there are still technologically advanced Rakatans in the galaxy, still seeking ways to reconnect to the force(Sith Inquisitor story line) or keep the horrors of Belsavis locked up (Jedi Consular story line) and they are aware of galactic community, but their own issues and small numbers lead them to operate without attracting undue attention. So when Lehon sun went nova after Star Forge was destroyed the species did not go extinct as Republic assumed.
I wonder could light side force energy be used to power Rakatan technology? Also could the virus be used to separate any sentient from the force? If so it’s a dangerous weapon.
I find it funny as everyone always jumps to Stargate despite the concept's usage back to like 40/50's (let alone it's fantasy magic equivalents). I get it is probably the most popular setting with it but you people are giving Roland Emmerich too much credit if you think he could come up with the concept.
BBY is such an odd in-universe reference for a galactic calendar. It's not the beginning or fall of the Republic or Empire, it's just one particularly impressive rebel victory along the way. And don't tell me they don't actually use it in-universe when they've got a whole abbreviation for it. They might as well call it BFM -- Before First Movie Or BMCAD -- Before Most Convenient Audience Date XD But I guess it doesn't really matter for 'cause this Galaxy is so far, far away from Earth, there's no way those actual standard "years" they're measuring on that system are 365 days long any more than those days are 24 hours long :) If you think about it, we might not know what any of this time actually means -- their "year" could be the length of our "week"! :o
Now that Andor has straight up referenced the Rakata, I have a theory: what if the Rakata are the Yuuzhan Vong of the Filoniverse. For those unfamiliar with this rumor/theory is that all the projects post ROTJ but before TFA is building up to a massive crossover event to handle an all-powerful threat in the unknown regions. So characters like Din Djarin, Grogu, Ahsoka, Ezra, Sabine, and Boba Fett will be forced to join forces with Grand Admiral Thrawn to beat this enemy, thus explaining their collective absence in the sequels. With that explained let me elaborate why I think the Rakata are the big bads of the coming conflict: 1. Logically it doesn't make sense for the big bads to be either the Yuuzhan Vong or if you have read the new Thrawn books, the Grysk. A lot of people were less than thrilled with the idea of the Vong in the NJO books, as well as their strange relationship with the Force, so on top of feeling too Marvel I think the Vong are out. As for the Grysk, they haven't been mentioned outside of the Thrawn books and as villains they don't pose much of a threat to our team. But a group of dark siders more ancient than the sith with a Star Forge able to pump endless ships certainly is. 2. The Rakata and Rakata Prime have been mentioned several times in source books even before Andor. They have been secretly Canon for awhile. 3. Palpatine was sensing something calling him into the Unknown regions in the Aftermath books, which he assumed was the source of the dark side. With the sequels out we all assumed that it was Exegol, but with the new Darth Vader comics retconning that Palpatine had in fact been to Exegol before ROTJ it now doesn't make sense. UNLESS... he was sensing the return of the first dark siders on their homeworld of Rakata Prime. 4. Right after the ending of Rebels there was a lot of talk about a sequel. In one of these rumors was the idea that Ezra was training with an old Rakatan master while working with Thrawn to fight the Grysk. After the long years this rumor disappeared but now I'm wondering if this was a genuine leak.
I think a big problem is just how much baggage the Rakata come with. The 'Filoniverse' has been pretty simple so far, which is partly why it's such a success, and having the Rakata be a prime part of the story means they're forced to explain (or retcon) much of their past. If they ignore it, their status as the big villain has no weight, and if they explain it, it would likely just ruin accessibility for casual viewers. I doubt a crossover event would have the time necessary to really dig into it as much as would be required.
@@malachiphoniex8501 would this show take place after all these character focused series like Mando and the upcoming Ahsoka? Oh yeah, I didn't bring this up in my last comment I sent to you in another vid. How do you think they'll explain how the First Order didn't detect and destroy the New Infinite Empire for decades? I can't see someone as paranoid as Palpatine overlooking something like that. Either they created some tech to mask the Force on an interplanetary scale or were so (seemingly) insignificant and far away in the "trenches" of the Unknown Regions that Palps and the First Order leadership to give a damn about em. But hey, that's just a theory :D
@@blackshogun272 So, yeah the new series would be after the other Mandoverse stuff is done. As for why the First Order didn't destroy the Rakata, maybe it was because they themselves were too weak. We know that before Snoke the First Order was struggling. We also don't know how complete the conquest of the Unknown Regions was by the time of the Force Awakens or even when Palpatine was resurrected. What would be interesting is if the First Order was a tiny faction during this Rakata-Thrawn War but after the carnage they swooped in to claim the scraps, such as Thrawn's Cloning program, allowing for the return of Palpatine.
I have to disagree with this, partially. The Rakata are most likely not coming back in modern Star Wars. The Grysk are going to be the big threat that the Galaxy faces, by the end of the Thrawn books he even mentions how, with the Rebellion beginning to take off, the Grysk have begun encroaching on imperial space in the Unknown Regions. In the Mandalorian, when Cara is talking to that Republic pilot in season two he mentions to her that the Republic needs soldiers because there is "something brewing" at the edges of Republic space. Of course this could refer to either Thrawn, the First Order (ew), or the Grysk. My money is on the Grysk because Thrawn is already set to be the villain for the Ahsoka show and the First Order is still in its infancy by the time of the Mandalorian. My theory is that the Ahsoka show will show us that Thrawn and Ezra (though enemies) are still coming to terms with the Grysk threat and are working to fight it. Then the now-cancelled Rangers of the New Republic show would have shown how the Republic begins to learn of the Grysk threat. This would ultimately tie in to a crossover event depicting the war between the Grysk and the Galaxy. This war would be brutal, on a scale much like the Vong (though Disney-fied). Imo this war will be the reason why the capital of the New Republic gets moved to Hosnian Prime (which is blown up in TFA). According to canon, by the time of the sequels Coruscant is said to have been a relic of what it once was (meaning it probably suffered catastrophic damage in the Grysk War). Going back to the Rakata, I think they were reintroduced in Andor to set up for an eventual Old Republic cinematic universe (but that may not be for years to come).
Yeah, you can actually open it in KotOR I if you want and dare. It has some Rakatan criminal, with offscreen non-Rakatan unfortunates who opened the box, got trapped, and went insane and lost.
@@michaelandreipalon359 yeah but who is it? It's got to be someone who was important. Not just some rakatan random. Like a leader....who is being punished for Millennia... And no you don't get stuck inside and go insane really you would switch if you lost to the riddle contest and be trapped in his place
@@Kolonol1 Good point. That's what happened to the others before your player character, as the aforementioned Rakata prisoner would mention while chatting with him.
Someday when Disney buys Stargate if they haven't already, they can tie star wars into each of the other sci-fi stories and create one interwoven ridiculous web of continuities XD
*smugly drinks unfermented Boiling Isles apple blood* What makes you think Stargates work Multiversally? Also, what also made you think Stargates are the *only* way to access other universes? (In case you might be offended, take notes that I'm just being on character, and thus bring you no offense.)
Rakata: We killed them... We killed them all... They're all dead. Every single one of them... And not just the Kwa... but the Gree and the Killiks, too...
Valkorion: Hilarious, ima go eat a planet now.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Darth Nihilus: Hilarious, ima go eat a planet now
The Rakatans are a bit of an interesting aspect of lore for SW. The idea of an all conquering empire isn't new in SW or RL but the idea of such an overwhelming empire so powerful and undefeatable just suddenly retracting into nothingness is nutty.
Yup. They're like the Mayan civilization, and it truthfully makes them more interesting
Well, they used the force exclusively to power their technology and for that and perhaps other reasons their empire was scattered all over the galaxy but on relatively few worlds, with vast gaps among them. Nowhere near as large or encompassing as the republic or galactic empire later were. But in their time, and due to the force, a monumental terror. Making them so force-dependent and having it be a 'force-plague' that kills them off, or reduces them to helpless and eventually devolved remnants is reasonably consistent with later lore, and with the idea that the force can sometimes act "on its own" in some way, not necessarily consciously. Plus it fits with the occasional historical example of civilizations brought low by medical or environmental factors.
My theory is that the force cut them off from itself because they're destructive nature was creating an cosmic imbalance in the force, by doing that Doomed their empire and restored a semblance of balance to the force. They were basically the Assyrians of the Star Wars universe, they make the sith look reasonable in comparison.
Be nice if made movies of the first Jedi council
@@cane6074Kinda like how the Vong were cut off from the force as well.
You know the well researched interesting videos aside I cannot stress how much I love the deadpan humor injected into them. Seriously gets me to smile everytime
The Rakatan Infinite Empire is a example of how the Dark Side always leads to ruin for any great empire. The abuse, destruction, and enslavement of the Galaxy caused ripples to spread in the force, and the Force responded by unleashing the force cutting plague onto the Rakatans thus destroying their foul empire in a span of a single generation.
The dark side is effective as a tool to channel the force but untempered from its excess by reason or common sense it will backfire on the one that indulges in it.
You mean to say the Dark side makes you so OP that The galaxy itself will have to nerf you.
@@Tate_THGmore so with the universe not liking one side of the force being so unbalanced if forces change, after all balance is needed
Fantastic dude. I remeber the Rakatans from the tales of the Jedi comics back in my youth. It didn’t realize they got so fleshed out.
Awesome!
I am fascinated by the tale of a slave revolt on a beautiful tropical world in the Outer Rim. The Rakata blasted the planet from orbit, creating a desert. And the human natives that survived evolved into two disparate species. Both shrouded themselves in heavy cloth to prevent any exposure. But one grew small, with glowing eyes.
Tatooine.
The Rakata were not having it with them niggas bruh. I'm very surprised the Sith species didn't get exterminated from the difficulties and strife they brought upon the Infinite Empire.
Tatooine had 4 sentient species living in harmony before Rakatans blasted the planet. Only two survived the desert. I do not know where you are getting that Jawas and Sand People had same ancestry, that is a bit of lore I have never encountered.
@@Matej_Sojka Not sure where "4 Sentient Species on Tatooine" comes from, but there is some lore that explains (In an in-universe theory, anyway) that they do have a shared ancestry.
• According to "Jawas" from The New Essential Guide to Alien Species: "Some theories contend that both Jawas, and their neighbors, The Tusken Raiders, descended from an ancient species known as The Kumumgah (Weird name, I know), while others insist that Jawas evolved from rodents."
• As for "Tusken Raiders" from the same book: "This nomadic people was the dominant sentient species on Tatooine before settlers began to colonize the world during the days of The Old Republic. The Jawas, the only other sentients on this planet, while more intelligent, were not as large, or fierce as their brutal neighbors, although there is some scientific evidence that suggests the two groups may both be from the same species, an ancient race known as The Kumumgah. (Try to resist saying that 5 times fast, in a very silly voice. Good Luck!)"
So, if that's not proof (Even in an unsure/theoretical sense) from the lore of their shared ancestry, I don't know what to tell you. Check up Wookieepedia, or somehow contact Ann Margaret Lewis, and Helen Keier (The Authors of this book) for more info. That's all I can say.
@@gehrigstory6674 The Old Republic MMO has a mission on Tatooine where as Jedi Consular you track down crazed rogue Jedi Master on Tatooine. He researched survival techniques in harsh environments and studied Tatooine history to figure out which strategy was more successful, Jawas and their scavenging without understanding of personal ownership or Tuskens with their violent xenofobia and close knitted clan culture. When he explains all this he talks about how two other native species of Tatooine did not survive the desertification, which a lot of Tatooine lore talks about. After enslaved locals they had uprising against Rakata and they retaliated by chugging something into the planet that causes the local metals to be worthless for any serious use and the impact changed the climate, turning once verdant a lush world into desert. And because same particle field that they deployed to alter metals negatively affect technology over time using traditional terraforming is not an option. That is why you have moisture farming as primary source of income for locals, the vaporators are apparently low tech enough to be profitable in long term, why Jawas always have customers for their refurbished droids and tech and why there are so many junkyards on the planet despite not being repair or manufacturing center and being a visiting spot only for the desperate. It is also the reason why Tuskens hate offworlders, their spoken history is all bout how their world was destroyed by them.
@@Matej_Sojka So, there's a lore inconsistency, here? Or, maybe a retcon? My quote on The Tusken Raiders from The New Essential Guide to Alien Species clearly stated that they, and Jawas were the only sentient species on Tatooine before off-worlders got involved. Maybe SWTOR changed that lore, later on, I don't know. I've never played that game before to ever find out.
Edit: Plus, that doesn't explain the whole "Shared Ancestry" thing. If Tatooine is cursed to be low-tech forever (Doubtful, with Jawa Sandcrawlers, repulsorlift craft, and other high-tech things operating well on this world quite fine), how does that explain Jawas, and Tusken Raiders not being related? Just a curious question.
I'm getting a lot of storybeats from these guys and Mass Effect's Protheans.
It's interesting how similar they are from their obsession with Galactic enslavement, to their affinity for using the force (with literal Dark Energy), to even having remarkably similar appearances.
I guess it makes sense due to Bioware creating both species, but it's still kind of cool how one idea can be applied in wildly different universes.
Not to mention that their role in early galactic history is very similar to that of The Forerunners in Halo. An (More or less) evil species that overthrew the ruling empire of another great alien power before them (Precursors/Celestials, or at least Kwa), ruled the galaxy in their stead for a long time, then their empire falls apart due to a dangerous plague (Rakatan Plague/The Flood), they're rendered into a mostly obsolete shell of their former selves, and Humanity from then on takes their place as the most dominant species in the galaxy in the future (Under The Galactic Republic, and future governments; or Humanity in The UNSC, Post-Covenant War).
Any more proof that The Rakata rip-off other Sci-Fi universes?
My point was that the Protheans were possibly an expansion on the Rakata which Bioware also created back in Kotor.
The premise of a long lost society creating the galaxy as we know it and influencing our way of life is as old as the film 2001 A Space Odyssey and possibly further.
From Stargate to Halo to Star Trek, Scifi ran with this concept in their own way and it has been a popular story idea for quite some time.
In fact, prior to Halo 4, the Forerunners weren't as fleshed out or the reasons for their disappearance explained, so you could say Halo borrowed some concepts from Kotor, but really they were more inspiration for eachother instead of plagiarism.
9:06 Ra, Ra, Raspir! Korriban's greatest dark machine! There was a Sith that really was gooooone! 🎵🇷🇺
Quite good as always!
Didnt the Rakatans also glass Tatooine and the Kumumgah there then became the Tusken raiders and jawas?
I think you forgot the Flesh Raiders, unless I missed it.
Love the disclaimer for Stargate lol
Awesome video!
Back then, I was awed by them and maybe even feared them.
Nowadays, I think of them as eyeroll-worthy butt-monkeys, especially since recent Legends material actually showed that they didn't even rule millions of planets... they only ruled just a thousand, or so I've heard. Think of that what you will.
And then there's their actual origins from *Gungan* gene enhancements from the Old Ones.
do my eyes deceive me, or have I found a fellow reader of Supernatural Encounters?
Why, no, they haven't deceived you.
Was there supposed to be such a long black screen starting from 0:14 - 0:31?
Great vid btw! Idk why but when they popped up in KOTOR, their language freaked me out... 🤣 Rakatan's are a cool species.
I think the "plague" that took out majority of Rakata numbers before they lost their connection to the Force might have been Esh-ka. SWTOR suggest as much, the Esh-ka lore says Rakatans used "plague" as the term to refer to them because of their numbers, the solid, nearly incorruptible social structure and combat prowess. Also, during SWTOR game play, especially on Belsavis there are still technologically advanced Rakatans in the galaxy, still seeking ways to reconnect to the force(Sith Inquisitor story line) or keep the horrors of Belsavis locked up (Jedi Consular story line) and they are aware of galactic community, but their own issues and small numbers lead them to operate without attracting undue attention. So when Lehon sun went nova after Star Forge was destroyed the species did not go extinct as Republic assumed.
I wonder could light side force energy be used to power Rakatan technology? Also could the virus be used to separate any sentient from the force? If so it’s a dangerous weapon.
I find it funny as everyone always jumps to Stargate despite the concept's usage back to like 40/50's (let alone it's fantasy magic equivalents). I get it is probably the most popular setting with it but you people are giving Roland Emmerich too much credit if you think he could come up with the concept.
Space Mayans
I always thought the Rakatans were extinct by the events of the movies
BBY is such an odd in-universe reference for a galactic calendar. It's not the beginning or fall of the Republic or Empire, it's just one particularly impressive rebel victory along the way.
And don't tell me they don't actually use it in-universe when they've got a whole abbreviation for it.
They might as well call it BFM -- Before First Movie
Or BMCAD -- Before Most Convenient Audience Date XD
But I guess it doesn't really matter for 'cause this Galaxy is so far, far away from Earth, there's no way those actual standard "years" they're measuring on that system are 365 days long any more than those days are 24 hours long :) If you think about it, we might not know what any of this time actually means -- their "year" could be the length of our "week"! :o
AFAIK BBY and ABY are purely used IRL. It's not an in-universe designation.
If we ever meat Aliens we must not be the Rakata
Star Wars was like the Galactic Empire❓
Yeah, it was once . . .
So basically went from primitive - highly advanced - back to primitive - borderline completely extinct.
The Rakatan Empire would smash the Yuuzhan Vong.
Definitely
Remember the Racatans.
Now that Andor has straight up referenced the Rakata, I have a theory: what if the Rakata are the Yuuzhan Vong of the Filoniverse. For those unfamiliar with this rumor/theory is that all the projects post ROTJ but before TFA is building up to a massive crossover event to handle an all-powerful threat in the unknown regions. So characters like Din Djarin, Grogu, Ahsoka, Ezra, Sabine, and Boba Fett will be forced to join forces with Grand Admiral Thrawn to beat this enemy, thus explaining their collective absence in the sequels. With that explained let me elaborate why I think the Rakata are the big bads of the coming conflict:
1. Logically it doesn't make sense for the big bads to be either the Yuuzhan Vong or if you have read the new Thrawn books, the Grysk. A lot of people were less than thrilled with the idea of the Vong in the NJO books, as well as their strange relationship with the Force, so on top of feeling too Marvel I think the Vong are out. As for the Grysk, they haven't been mentioned outside of the Thrawn books and as villains they don't pose much of a threat to our team. But a group of dark siders more ancient than the sith with a Star Forge able to pump endless ships certainly is.
2. The Rakata and Rakata Prime have been mentioned several times in source books even before Andor. They have been secretly Canon for awhile.
3. Palpatine was sensing something calling him into the Unknown regions in the Aftermath books, which he assumed was the source of the dark side. With the sequels out we all assumed that it was Exegol, but with the new Darth Vader comics retconning that Palpatine had in fact been to Exegol before ROTJ it now doesn't make sense. UNLESS... he was sensing the return of the first dark siders on their homeworld of Rakata Prime.
4. Right after the ending of Rebels there was a lot of talk about a sequel. In one of these rumors was the idea that Ezra was training with an old Rakatan master while working with Thrawn to fight the Grysk. After the long years this rumor disappeared but now I'm wondering if this was a genuine leak.
I think a big problem is just how much baggage the Rakata come with. The 'Filoniverse' has been pretty simple so far, which is partly why it's such a success, and having the Rakata be a prime part of the story means they're forced to explain (or retcon) much of their past.
If they ignore it, their status as the big villain has no weight, and if they explain it, it would likely just ruin accessibility for casual viewers. I doubt a crossover event would have the time necessary to really dig into it as much as would be required.
@@tTaseric When I say crossover event I'm talking an entirely new show. That eliminates time constraints.
@@malachiphoniex8501 would this show take place after all these character focused series like Mando and the upcoming Ahsoka? Oh yeah, I didn't bring this up in my last comment I sent to you in another vid. How do you think they'll explain how the First Order didn't detect and destroy the New Infinite Empire for decades? I can't see someone as paranoid as Palpatine overlooking something like that. Either they created some tech to mask the Force on an interplanetary scale or were so (seemingly) insignificant and far away in the "trenches" of the Unknown Regions that Palps and the First Order leadership to give a damn about em. But hey, that's just a theory :D
@@blackshogun272 So, yeah the new series would be after the other Mandoverse stuff is done. As for why the First Order didn't destroy the Rakata, maybe it was because they themselves were too weak. We know that before Snoke the First Order was struggling. We also don't know how complete the conquest of the Unknown Regions was by the time of the Force Awakens or even when Palpatine was resurrected. What would be interesting is if the First Order was a tiny faction during this Rakata-Thrawn War but after the carnage they swooped in to claim the scraps, such as Thrawn's Cloning program, allowing for the return of Palpatine.
I have to disagree with this, partially. The Rakata are most likely not coming back in modern Star Wars. The Grysk are going to be the big threat that the Galaxy faces, by the end of the Thrawn books he even mentions how, with the Rebellion beginning to take off, the Grysk have begun encroaching on imperial space in the Unknown Regions. In the Mandalorian, when Cara is talking to that Republic pilot in season two he mentions to her that the Republic needs soldiers because there is "something brewing" at the edges of Republic space. Of course this could refer to either Thrawn, the First Order (ew), or the Grysk. My money is on the Grysk because Thrawn is already set to be the villain for the Ahsoka show and the First Order is still in its infancy by the time of the Mandalorian.
My theory is that the Ahsoka show will show us that Thrawn and Ezra (though enemies) are still coming to terms with the Grysk threat and are working to fight it. Then the now-cancelled Rangers of the New Republic show would have shown how the Republic begins to learn of the Grysk threat. This would ultimately tie in to a crossover event depicting the war between the Grysk and the Galaxy.
This war would be brutal, on a scale much like the Vong (though Disney-fied). Imo this war will be the reason why the capital of the New Republic gets moved to Hosnian Prime (which is blown up in TFA). According to canon, by the time of the sequels Coruscant is said to have been a relic of what it once was (meaning it probably suffered catastrophic damage in the Grysk War).
Going back to the Rakata, I think they were reintroduced in Andor to set up for an eventual Old Republic cinematic universe (but that may not be for years to come).
And then there's the Riddler in that one mind trap in KOTOR
Did we EVER find out who was in the box in Kotor?
Yeah, you can actually open it in KotOR I if you want and dare. It has some Rakatan criminal, with offscreen non-Rakatan unfortunates who opened the box, got trapped, and went insane and lost.
@@michaelandreipalon359 yeah but who is it? It's got to be someone who was important. Not just some rakatan random. Like a leader....who is being punished for Millennia...
And no you don't get stuck inside and go insane really you would switch if you lost to the riddle contest and be trapped in his place
@@Kolonol1 Good point.
That's what happened to the others before your player character, as the aforementioned Rakata prisoner would mention while chatting with him.
@@michaelandreipalon359 oh really? I didn't remember that part of him saying that. I just remember the only way out was to win the riddle competition
Pays to be really chatty in RPGs. You never know when you get rewards and foresight for chugging up on lore and crud.
Someday when Disney buys Stargate if they haven't already, they can tie star wars into each of the other sci-fi stories and create one interwoven ridiculous web of continuities XD
*smugly drinks unfermented Boiling Isles apple blood* What makes you think Stargates work Multiversally? Also, what also made you think Stargates are the *only* way to access other universes?
(In case you might be offended, take notes that I'm just being on character, and thus bring you no offense.)
@@sheevpalpatine2128 you think the Disney won't try to buy Amazon prime?
For sure not my favorite part of SW