It's the whole point of motorcycles tho, isn't it? It doesn't have to be the quickest, loudest or slickest, it strikes something in your heart and soul and that's it, you're done for
Most definitely. Plus, the amount of people who fail to read the "To me" part at the beginning of the title is quite astonishing. (added this second bit of info with the edit)
As some of you already know this here is how I usually get my test rides: th-cam.com/video/A_lVU5NGIUY/w-d-xo.html Which means that almost all bikes that appear on my channel are owned by the manufacturers, they're completely new, and usually in perfect condition. This RAW is different because you're watching a used bike which is owned by a big German dealership. I was on the job for my employer 1000PS.at and together with a colleague I was filming and reviewing used motorcycles in Germany. I was under severe time pressure to make those Onboard sound recordings which meant I didn't have any time to get used to the motorcycle before filming the RAW. Please keep that in mind when judging my riding style. More important though is the fact that to my liking the twisty stretch of road I filmed was too short. That's why I had to improvise a bit and include those boring straight bits to give you a better impression of what the bike sounds like. I prefer to do all my filming on twisty road sections but it was almost impossible to find stretches long enough to do so. Especially since the best roads were closed due to severe floodings in the area. I hope you're still able to enjoy this RAW. I certainly do since it is such a nice change for once to ride bikes that are a bit older and therefore have quite a lot more character attached to them!!
That description is spot on. Its why i somehow love my CBF600 more than my tracer 900. Sure tracer is an amazing bike but... almost anyone can buy it and almost everyone would have it above the CBF but it lacks the soul of that old bike. A bike that will never ever be made because of eu emissions, thats why older bikes are so special. Also that speedometer is amazing, never seen something that unique, new bikes can have their TFTs and shit, i'd always take analog over an iphone.
I agree with gujo. Even bikes that were considered boring back in the day become exciting to me nowadays. The smell, the rich mixture, everythings great
@@Schaaf Exactly that today we would only have the cbf500 that 2 cylinder one since its not worth making a 4 cylinder cbf600 cuz of emissions. Thats what makes it so special and also like you said the vibe of the bike is different than the new ones that cant be replaced.
There is something visceral about an old school bike. Watching you work the clutch and throttle on downshift is something that is lost on modern bikes and riders.
Another great video, your creations always put a smile on my face. My hemisphere of the world must be a lower rpm environment. Here in the land of V8s and V Twins the sweetest sound to my ears is a big air cooled V twin. A good rumbling exhaust makes a good thing even better. But, straight pipes ruin everything for me. My ears protest when subjected to the supersonic crack when an exhaust valves opens opens without attenuation between it and me. Internal combustion has provided many enjoyable sounds, the HD Big Twin is my favorite.
As an OG 2002 (2001 purchase) v rod owner I can tell you that in the US it was the first it’s kind! A liquid cooled, overhead cam engine was unheard of in the born in America Harley. It was not received well and was not marketed well. With that said, it’s a great bike that can be purchased cheap for what you get. 8:28
I thought it sounded a little more focused on volumetric efficiency than I was expecting. Although that's not entirely Porsche's doing, being based on the VR1000. The very deep, hard edged induction note implies some aggressive valve timing and large valve area. Also it revs so cleanly! Absolutely no comparison to a pushrod engine. When I first read about it, I wanted one for my dream garage. Having now heard it, I think it might even become reality. Shame about the Nova engines too, but Harley chose well for their own survival.
@@identiticrisis The VRod was very interesting when it came out, then I saw one in a dealership. The long low drag bike frame and huge rear tire didn’t appeal to me. I don’t know for sure, but I would bet my Dyna Wide Glide handles better.
Well, Porsche actually designed the whole thing in Germany and made it the first water cooled "Harley" engine ever. Harley later on tried to market it the other way around and claimed the engine was developed with the help of Porsche engineers, when Porsche actually was the company who did the heavy lifting. Rumor says that they ended their partnership over that dispute.
You always provide us with beautiful scenery for these rides…and my Porsche luv actually brought me to Harley V-rod when I lived in Las Vegas…their 1st Water Cooled engine…and that Naked Body…and F1’s Ayrton Senna brought me to Ducati…Awesome Bike…and it’s always interesting hopping on and the forward controls… 😊
Can't beat the sound of a good V-twin in my opinion! That's why I got myself an SV650 with a MIVV slipon exhaust as my first bike, it sounds awesome and also has a nice deep burble in the low RPMs that makes a lot of people turn their heads lol. Sound isn't the only important thing for me when buying a bike, but when there are two bikes that both ride equally well and one sounds better, that's the one I'll buy.
It really is a personal thing. I can think of many V2 engines with a better sound: a 916, a TL1000, a RSV... maintaining the HD style, the MT-01 sounds (much) better to my ears. Even the recent guzzi V100 V2 has a better soundtrack.
I was intent to buy a vrsc street rod but the one I went to look at was a mechanical mess, very bad owner. I've owned a lot of bikes and my sportster 1200 with the right set of mufflers was just so great sonically it still makes me happy remembering what it used to be like. It was the ww2 engine noise like you mentioned, I was in full attack mode every time I let it rip through the gears and then the sound of the engine braking from high rpm was just pure awesome.
Sounds awesome! Great video and awesome to see a V-Rod getting some attention. But may I recommend trying the Yamaha MT-01.... I wish I had bought it when I had the chance,,, that kind of a bike will maybe come back in the form of the BMW R20... but until then, MT-01 for the win IMO
Schaaf, you inspired me to get a GoPro, a Zoom mic and to start experimenting with video production. I recently uploaded a quick video of my 20-year-old bike whose sound makes me happy! You can find in on my channel, it’s called: “Pure Engine Sound - Honda Valkyrie Straight Pipes”. I’d be honored to hear your opinion of the exhaust sound. It would be cool to see you ride a Valkyrie in a future video, as I know you'd love it. If I lived in Europe, I’d bring it to you. Keep up the awesome work!!
Thanks for this vid, sure it sounds GREAT. But do you remember the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 sound with ZARD exhaust you did 4 years ago ? This one has truly nailed it for me. Amazing sound, and the gearbox ratio between shift is flawless, where this one has a huge gap at some point (the 2-3 i think). Still a killer bike but i'd go for the royal ;) Cheers lml
These things got down to like 3 grand in the states for a while before creeping up a bit over time. If I could get comfortable on one I’d have gotten one a long time ago.
If you had to pick between this bike and a 2020 Triumph Street Triple R for a commuter? Which would it be? I know most would probably say the Street as it’s lighter, nimbler, agile, and technically faster but man does the Street Rod tug at my heart strings.
Personally I don't find cruisers any attractive at all, maybe you'll like the cruiser JUST for the looks or sound. But everything not necessarily how it feels to turn, accelerate, bop around town with. There's nothing wrong with that, but to me, it's crazy to want a harley instead of an mt09 or street triple, in this case if you're gonna get the R version, I think it's better you spend your money on an mt09, the streety is good for the RS.
@@rns6889 Appreciate the thoughtful response brother, yeah I know on a completely objective front the MT and Streets are the more sound option for my commute. It’s just this specific cruiser, not a single other one. “My body is telling me yes, but my mind is telling me no!” Kindaaah response, I know. 🤣😭💀
@@musicspider911 Sounds rough buddy I know that kind of mind game 😂😂, I really don't know what to say for you because my priorities are different than yours haha. You test ridden all your possible candidates?
Buddy last time you said that Truxton was the best sounding bike including the aesthetics. Soooo... 😁😁 Comparing both of them which would you pick to be the best " Just by their Sound and Feel "😏😏 BTW love your videos Love from India.
Habe die Ehre Schaaf,wieder ein schönes Video,dennoch möchte ich anmerken,das meine SV 650 mit *SHARK* Tröte auch nicht schlecht klingt. WEITER SO 😎🍾 (Die Harley IS aber auch nicht schlecht)
Now I'm wondering what bike is your second favorite in terms of sound! That V rod does sound great, but it looks horrible! Truly a time capsule of the 00's chopper craze.
Lovely vid. These have a really interesting history, the general belief they are an outright Porsche designed lump isn't *strictly* true. Porsche had a big hand in the engine and Harley Davidson wanted everyone to know that Porsche had a big hand in the engine, so the actual history of the engine has been pretty much buried. Essentially, the engine started out as the lump from the VR1000 race bike that was developed in the 90's for Harley Davidson's AMA superbike aspirations. Liquid cooled, 4v per cylinder etc. it was very far removed from anything Harley had built before so they did it hand in hand with Roush Motorsport. The result was a rather cool engine but unfortunately vs. the Ducati's etc. of the time it wasn't good enough. Determined not to throw all the money away they's spent developing the engine they took it and threw it at Porsche who pretty much 'cruiserfied' it. Rumours abound about what Porsche actually did with it, but they pretty much added longevity to it, via material changes, detuning and also altered the shape of the motor to better fit a cruiser style frame. The result was the motor for the V-rod. This also means it became a Porsche engine in the public mind and not a failed AMA race engine. Incidentally this means the motor in the V-rod is an extremely strong lump. It's possible to bolt a supercharger on and make 160rwhp safely, and over 180rwhp with mods to the fuel system. Detuned race motor that it is, it does provide a very sporty ride for a Harley!
tis different for me, i love how the merlins and their german counterparts sound but i only like that sound on planes. Put it in a car it fails to impress me, more so for bikes, but this is just a matter of preference. I think the intakes are universally agreed upon as good sounding. And it smells, couldnt ask for more.
I had a Street Rod back when they first came out. I don't know whatever possessed me to buy such a heavy expensive bike. Plus, I never really liked the sound of it. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone point to the V-Rod as a great sounding motor.
How about Ducati 916 sound with termignoni full exhaust? I have and rsv mille v60 full akrapovic that sounds really good but the old Ducati bikes sound is quite unbeatable.
I have a small complaint schaff. hear me out.. I know that your put your mic in foam inside a bag,but the volume of your videos is kinda low when the audio is from the bag mic. Your videos are generally watched at full volume of headset and the experience of watching them is like this: the ad is deafeningly loud so we gotta lower the volume. then the ad ends and the video plays and volume is cranked up to full again, but it never feels loud enough and I just keep on checking again and again if the volume is indeed maxxed out. listen how loud the harley is in the last few clips and then on your onboard. feels somewhat of an injustice to the bike that the audio isnt loud enough, and to the other bikes in general as well. I absolutely love your videos but they just arent loud enough😝😝
thanks for the feedback although my Onboard recording is properly leveled in post production. It's compressed and its top peaks are at the absolute limit. The ads simply overdo compressing which I don't want to do with my sound files.
there's plenty of great twisties in Germany but there's way too many villages in between them. The population density is the actual issue. Some of your roads are absolutely magnificent!!! But it's rare to find long stretches of twisties where you can ride hard without annoying anyone.
@@Schaaf very true. I remember when I drove to other countries, how relaxing it felt to just drive 15+km of twisty country road without interruption. Can't have that here.
still prefer moto guzzi. In the end, they are better Harley when riding, in my humble opinion, reliable, quick enough, with a more sweet set of sound even also the clunk gearbox it's lovely...
🤔🤔🤔 es gibt so viele geile Sounds, der V4 Sound von Aprilia, BMW's Holy grail of farts, schreiende reihen Vierer, voluminöse ami V2, Einzylinder braaaap,.... ich kann mich nicht entscheiden was der beste Sound ist.
The rarest V-Rod variant, basically a naked bike built around the V-Rod motor, these are also the most expensive V-Rod variants on the used market save for the handful of Destroyers that were sold. These sound even better with a good aftermarket exhaust on them.
![I got to ride the BIGGEST V4 ever made. It was weird. [RAW Onboard]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rdqibHcQPhc/mqdefault.jpg)
![I got to ride the BIGGEST V4 ever made. It was weird. [RAW Onboard]](/img/tr.png)
It's the whole point of motorcycles tho, isn't it? It doesn't have to be the quickest, loudest or slickest, it strikes something in your heart and soul and that's it, you're done for
Most definitely. Plus, the amount of people who fail to read the "To me" part at the beginning of the title is quite astonishing. (added this second bit of info with the edit)
Wouldnt day thatd the whole point, but enjoying it is second :b
@@jensenthegreen6780 Elaborate
After riding inline fours all my life I can't believe how good I feel riding my Vrod. Sounds amazing plus that lovely pulsing sensation 🖤🖤🤘🤘
After you mentioned it, I could tell how it sounds like a WWII plane in those ending shots.
THANK YOU!!! Someone who gets it :D
Letssss gooo I've requested this video back in 2019 to 2020!!!!! Its worth the wait as this is one of my dream bikes
hahaha what a wait! ;)
As some of you already know this here is how I usually get my test rides:
th-cam.com/video/A_lVU5NGIUY/w-d-xo.html
Which means that almost all bikes that appear on my channel are owned by the manufacturers, they're completely new, and usually in perfect condition.
This RAW is different because you're watching a used bike which is owned by a big German dealership. I was on the job for my employer 1000PS.at and together with a colleague I was filming and reviewing used motorcycles in Germany. I was under severe time pressure to make those Onboard sound recordings which meant I didn't have any time to get used to the motorcycle before filming the RAW. Please keep that in mind when judging my riding style.
More important though is the fact that to my liking the twisty stretch of road I filmed was too short. That's why I had to improvise a bit and include those boring straight bits to give you a better impression of what the bike sounds like. I prefer to do all my filming on twisty road sections but it was almost impossible to find stretches long enough to do so. Especially since the best roads were closed due to severe floodings in the area. I hope you're still able to enjoy this RAW. I certainly do since it is such a nice change for once to ride bikes that are a bit older and therefore have quite a lot more character attached to them!!
Tuono v4 can't believe what you said
Tuono V2
Tuono V4 all the way. But it doesn't remind me of warbirds ;)
I heard a tuono v4 today for the first time in person and it blew my mind.
Any other opinion is invalid
Vfr750 rc36-2 sounds great too with the carbed v4 with gear driven camshafts but the Aprilia v4s are insane too
It didn’t sell well because for Harley riders it rides too well and is too quiet 😂😂😂
Chefs-kiss to that assessment!
Thanks ;)
Lol :)
I knew I should have bought one of these 20 years ago. As usual killer video thank you.
Thank YOU
That description is spot on. Its why i somehow love my CBF600 more than my tracer 900. Sure tracer is an amazing bike but... almost anyone can buy it and almost everyone would have it above the CBF but it lacks the soul of that old bike. A bike that will never ever be made because of eu emissions, thats why older bikes are so special.
Also that speedometer is amazing, never seen something that unique, new bikes can have their TFTs and shit, i'd always take analog over an iphone.
bruh, a cbf600 has got to be among the most soulless, gutless plain-jane motorcycles there are... a tracer 900 has loads more character than that.
@@J0J0McM0M0 did u ride it and did u ride it to the max?
@@gujo4351 i would not have commented otherwise - a 2004 naked cbf600. horribly boring, but beginner-friendly and quite docile bike.
I agree with gujo. Even bikes that were considered boring back in the day become exciting to me nowadays. The smell, the rich mixture, everythings great
@@Schaaf Exactly that today we would only have the cbf500 that 2 cylinder one since its not worth making a 4 cylinder cbf600 cuz of emissions. Thats what makes it so special and also like you said the vibe of the bike is different than the new ones that cant be replaced.
There is something visceral about an old school bike. Watching you work the clutch and throttle on downshift is something that is lost on modern bikes and riders.
True that
Another great video, your creations always put a smile on my face.
My hemisphere of the world must be a lower rpm environment. Here in the land of V8s and V Twins the sweetest sound to my ears is a big air cooled V twin. A good rumbling exhaust makes a good thing even better. But, straight pipes ruin everything for me. My ears protest when subjected to the supersonic crack when an exhaust valves opens opens without attenuation between it and me.
Internal combustion has provided many enjoyable sounds, the HD Big Twin is my favorite.
well said!
As an OG 2002 (2001 purchase) v rod owner I can tell you that in the US it was the first it’s kind! A liquid cooled, overhead cam engine was unheard of in the born in America Harley. It was not received well and was not marketed well. With that said, it’s a great bike that can be purchased cheap for what you get. 8:28
Thanks for sharing!!
That Porsche designed V Twin sounds pretty great
thanks!
Had many bikes since passing my test 1995 and only just got a VRod. Best bike ever for me. The looks, comfort and that sound🖤🤘🖤🤘
Awesome!!
Beauty, be it sight or sound is in the eye of the beholder....
Thank Porsche for that, they helped designing the engine
I thought it sounded a little more focused on volumetric efficiency than I was expecting. Although that's not entirely Porsche's doing, being based on the VR1000.
The very deep, hard edged induction note implies some aggressive valve timing and large valve area.
Also it revs so cleanly! Absolutely no comparison to a pushrod engine.
When I first read about it, I wanted one for my dream garage. Having now heard it, I think it might even become reality.
Shame about the Nova engines too, but Harley chose well for their own survival.
thanks for the added explanation!
@@identiticrisis The VRod was very interesting when it came out, then I saw one in a dealership. The long low drag bike frame and huge rear tire didn’t appeal to me. I don’t know for sure, but I would bet my Dyna Wide Glide handles better.
V Rod Harley too, with Porsche engine design sound great with aftermarket pipes
Well, Porsche actually designed the whole thing in Germany and made it the first water cooled "Harley" engine ever. Harley later on tried to market it the other way around and claimed the engine was developed with the help of Porsche engineers, when Porsche actually was the company who did the heavy lifting. Rumor says that they ended their partnership over that dispute.
You always provide us with beautiful scenery for these rides…and my Porsche luv actually brought me to Harley V-rod when I lived in Las Vegas…their 1st Water Cooled engine…and that Naked Body…and F1’s Ayrton Senna brought me to Ducati…Awesome Bike…and it’s always interesting hopping on and the forward controls… 😊
Awesome! Thanks, Dracati!
When it comes to sound, I’d like you to do the RAW of 1997-2003 Honda Valkyire F6C with 6-in-6 Cobra Exhaust.
Unfortunately not accesible
@@Schaaf 🙁🙁
Aside from ergos, those were great bikes. I like the brakes on that one too. My ankle resting on the exhaust pipe was not so great though.
Is the bike comfortable for someone who's 6,1? I ride a street 750 and Kawasaki versys 650 btw
hahaha they even put a small piece of hard rubber on the exhaust pipe because of that :D
I get the title, that idle sound is probably the best i've heard
Awesome, thanks Gokul
I had a Vrod about 15 years ago, enjoyed it while I had it. It went surprisingly well tbh.
Der erste HD-Motor, bei dessen Entwicklung Porsche mit seine Finger im Spiel hatte. Gefällt mir auch immer noch sehr gut das Bike
hat sich ausgezahlt!!
Yes, phenomenal sound! Great video!
Thanks Pete!
Love my vrod. As you point out a unique lovely smell too.
So good!!
Can't beat the sound of a good V-twin in my opinion! That's why I got myself an SV650 with a MIVV slipon exhaust as my first bike, it sounds awesome and also has a nice deep burble in the low RPMs that makes a lot of people turn their heads lol. Sound isn't the only important thing for me when buying a bike, but when there are two bikes that both ride equally well and one sounds better, that's the one I'll buy.
Nice!
The best sounding bike you put out there was a RnineT with some slipons you made about 3-4 years ago. That was the bomb!
True that, that one was one of my favourites too
I know a guy who has one in silver, and with KessTech Exhaust. It sounds absolutely insane!
2:53, making her screech...nice one! :D
Let's pretend I did that on purpose :D
What a machine!!! Sounds like a freakin Desmosedici RR 💥
Thanks
Not your typical slow reving Harley. Very nice.
Glad you liked it!
personally I love the garish orange. And what a nice sound.
It really is a personal thing. I can think of many V2 engines with a better sound: a 916, a TL1000, a RSV... maintaining the HD style, the MT-01 sounds (much) better to my ears.
Even the recent guzzi V100 V2 has a better soundtrack.
Thanks!!
Wunderschönhesslich unmodern oldtimer imitation. Brrrr! 😊
danke!
Schaaf needs to get a hand on a 6cyl CB1000X. My god, that is the final boss of motorcycle exhaust notes.
That would be insane
I've owned one and they are fun.
My country is full of em.
Thank Porsche for that bike harley could never make an engine that good.
I was intent to buy a vrsc street rod but the one I went to look at was a mechanical mess, very bad owner. I've owned a lot of bikes and my sportster 1200 with the right set of mufflers was just so great sonically it still makes me happy remembering what it used to be like. It was the ww2 engine noise like you mentioned, I was in full attack mode every time I let it rip through the gears and then the sound of the engine braking from high rpm was just pure awesome.
Thanks for sharing!! :)
To me, the best motorcycle doesn't need fastest lap time or top speed but are fun to ride . That's why I love Hypermotard
Awesome!
Sounds awesome! Great video and awesome to see a V-Rod getting some attention. But may I recommend trying the Yamaha MT-01.... I wish I had bought it when I had the chance,,, that kind of a bike will maybe come back in the form of the BMW R20... but until then, MT-01 for the win IMO
Second that, Mt -01 sounds like a Messerschmitt during flybys. Nothing came close to that.
I'd absolutely love to but there are none around unfortunately
@@Schaaf ya unfortunately they don’t come up for sale that often and not many were sold as well...
Very good condition unit and a TOP video for us.
Cheers.
Obrigado!
Africa twin 1100 with remus exhaust is the best sounding bike
Sounds really good. I am not really a HD bike lover, but this one I like. :)
awesome!! Thanks!
That’s glorious.
thank you!!
Schaaf, you inspired me to get a GoPro, a Zoom mic and to start experimenting with video production. I recently uploaded a quick video of my 20-year-old bike whose sound makes me happy! You can find in on my channel, it’s called: “Pure Engine Sound - Honda Valkyrie Straight Pipes”. I’d be honored to hear your opinion of the exhaust sound. It would be cool to see you ride a Valkyrie in a future video, as I know you'd love it. If I lived in Europe, I’d bring it to you. Keep up the awesome work!!
Have fun on your onboard video journey!!
i saw ur comment under a video from 18 years ago about battlefield 1942 LOL
Thanks for this vid, sure it sounds GREAT. But do you remember the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 sound with ZARD exhaust you did 4 years ago ? This one has truly nailed it for me. Amazing sound, and the gearbox ratio between shift is flawless, where this one has a huge gap at some point (the 2-3 i think). Still a killer bike but i'd go for the royal ;) Cheers lml
of course! And I agree, that one sounded amazing too. But I prefer the Harley. Sounds more like a warbird :D
You should ride the new BSA Goldstar
These things got down to like 3 grand in the states for a while before creeping up a bit over time. If I could get comfortable on one I’d have gotten one a long time ago.
A stock exhaust is the best sounding bike youve tested?
Yes
For me the Roysl Enfield Interceptor was great.
Hey mate, do you think you could do a video for a raw sound of the Royal Enfield super meteor 650?
It sounds like you can fit a whole another gearbox between those gears ahah
Also Schaaf, mal ehrlich.
Du hast schon nen besonderen Geschmack 😁
stimmt wohl ;)
You absolutly have to try a Buell XB9 or XB12.
Give me one and I'll gladly do :)
Ever tried an Indian FTR?
Yes
would like to see you on a Arch motocyle
That'd be insane indeed
Indeed very nice soundig bike!
thanks mate!
It reminds me of the 20+ year old AMG 5.5 V8.
If you had to pick between this bike and a 2020 Triumph Street Triple R for a commuter? Which would it be?
I know most would probably say the Street as it’s lighter, nimbler, agile, and technically faster but man does the Street Rod tug at my heart strings.
Personally I don't find cruisers any attractive at all, maybe you'll like the cruiser JUST for the looks or sound. But everything not necessarily how it feels to turn, accelerate, bop around town with. There's nothing wrong with that, but to me, it's crazy to want a harley instead of an mt09 or street triple, in this case if you're gonna get the R version, I think it's better you spend your money on an mt09, the streety is good for the RS.
@@rns6889 Appreciate the thoughtful response brother, yeah I know on a completely objective front the MT and Streets are the more sound option for my commute.
It’s just this specific cruiser, not a single other one.
“My body is telling me yes, but my mind is telling me no!” Kindaaah response, I know. 🤣😭💀
@@musicspider911 Sounds rough buddy I know that kind of mind game 😂😂, I really don't know what to say for you because my priorities are different than yours haha. You test ridden all your possible candidates?
It is the ugliest thing i've ever seen in my life. But it sounds awesome
I've heard that before lol
@@Schaaf 🤣✌️
VROD Street-Rod :)
yeehaaw
@@Schaaf I’ve wanted one of those for a while now a 2006-2007 in the Blue or HD Orange like you sampled in the video looks like fun!!
Have you tried any Guzzis? I think you'd like the sound as well.
Yes
The value of these old bikes in the US is certainly in a dip!
Interesting!
Buddy last time you said that Truxton was the best sounding bike including the aesthetics.
Soooo... 😁😁
Comparing both of them which would you pick to be the best
" Just by their Sound and Feel "😏😏
BTW love your videos
Love from India.
Habe die Ehre Schaaf,wieder ein schönes Video,dennoch möchte ich anmerken,das meine SV 650 mit *SHARK* Tröte auch nicht schlecht klingt. WEITER SO 😎🍾 (Die Harley IS aber auch nicht schlecht)
mir fallen eh auch viele Bikes ein, die mich soundtechnisch begeistern ;)
Big like!
Big thanks!
I haven’t seen these in the U.S. Old bikes are the best.
They sure are! Thanks
what do you think of the XR1200? not only about the sound, but the bike as a whole.
You should try out a buell sport bike.
Not available
@@Schaaf I had a feeling
Now I'm wondering what bike is your second favorite in terms of sound! That V rod does sound great, but it looks horrible! Truly a time capsule of the 00's chopper craze.
I wouldn't be able to rank them. Speed Triple, MT10, Aprilia RSV/Tuono are my other and non-surprising favorites ;)
Try my 96 Honda Magna. V4 power ❤
Lovely vid.
These have a really interesting history, the general belief they are an outright Porsche designed lump isn't *strictly* true. Porsche had a big hand in the engine and Harley Davidson wanted everyone to know that Porsche had a big hand in the engine, so the actual history of the engine has been pretty much buried.
Essentially, the engine started out as the lump from the VR1000 race bike that was developed in the 90's for Harley Davidson's AMA superbike aspirations. Liquid cooled, 4v per cylinder etc. it was very far removed from anything Harley had built before so they did it hand in hand with Roush Motorsport.
The result was a rather cool engine but unfortunately vs. the Ducati's etc. of the time it wasn't good enough. Determined not to throw all the money away they's spent developing the engine they took it and threw it at Porsche who pretty much 'cruiserfied' it. Rumours abound about what Porsche actually did with it, but they pretty much added longevity to it, via material changes, detuning and also altered the shape of the motor to better fit a cruiser style frame. The result was the motor for the V-rod. This also means it became a Porsche engine in the public mind and not a failed AMA race engine.
Incidentally this means the motor in the V-rod is an extremely strong lump. It's possible to bolt a supercharger on and make 160rwhp safely, and over 180rwhp with mods to the fuel system. Detuned race motor that it is, it does provide a very sporty ride for a Harley!
Thanks for sharing!
disliked for clickbait till I saw it was a harley. you win this time lol
lol
My 5th gen VFR with gear driven cams wants to have a friendly chat with you.
tis different for me, i love how the merlins and their german counterparts sound but i only like that sound on planes. Put it in a car it fails to impress me, more so for bikes, but this is just a matter of preference. I think the intakes are universally agreed upon as good sounding. And it smells, couldnt ask for more.
Thanks for sharing!
Was ist denn vom frühen Wintereinbruch dieses Jahr zu halten? Meinst du, ich kann noch Ende Oktober / Anfang November in die italienischen Alpen?
Warum stellst du mir diese Frage?
@@Schaaf Weil du in den Alpen lebst und da täglich herum fährst.
I’m no Harley fan but I’ve ridden the V Rod. It’s a good bike with good power. Weird ergos tho.
Thanks mate!
I had a Street Rod back when they first came out. I don't know whatever possessed me to buy such a heavy expensive bike. Plus, I never really liked the sound of it. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone point to the V-Rod as a great sounding motor.
tastes differ :)
How about Ducati 916 sound with termignoni full exhaust? I have and rsv mille v60 full akrapovic that sounds really good but the old Ducati bikes sound is quite unbeatable.
tastes differ. I could hear a distant variation of a warbird engine when the Harley flew by for the first time. That's why I love it so much.
"20-year-old bikes can move my soul much better..."
So, return of Little Honda when?
Doesn't matter
As long as they realiable, they good
It does matter to my ears
Also vom Klang her hatte ich noch keine, die nur annähernd an eine FZ1 mit BOS Anlage rankommt.
Nice!
This is inexplicable 😅
Cool
Does anybody know if it's just the 2005 that has this exact egine? I see lots of 2002 and 2006s for sale, but don't know if they have this ones magic
Headphones for this one. I think I prefer a V4, but this is still 🥰
V4 forever!
❤❤❤
thanks!
An Austrian in love with WWII fighter planes… well well well
What a gorgeous video
thanks!!
So far..... until you try a Horex VR6 or Benelli 900 😊
Probably
Moto Guzzi Audace 1400 is outraged with Your statement 😂
hehehe
Yamaha xsr900 GP plssss
I have a small complaint schaff. hear me out.. I know that your put your mic in foam inside a bag,but the volume of your videos is kinda low when the audio is from the bag mic. Your videos are generally watched at full volume of headset and the experience of watching them is like this: the ad is deafeningly loud so we gotta lower the volume. then the ad ends and the video plays and volume is cranked up to full again, but it never feels loud enough and I just keep on checking again and again if the volume is indeed maxxed out. listen how loud the harley is in the last few clips and then on your onboard. feels somewhat of an injustice to the bike that the audio isnt loud enough, and to the other bikes in general as well. I absolutely love your videos but they just arent loud enough😝😝
thanks for the feedback although my Onboard recording is properly leveled in post production. It's compressed and its top peaks are at the absolute limit. The ads simply overdo compressing which I don't want to do with my sound files.
I prefer the sound you record on 719 RNineT
That one was great too!
meter looks good
thanks!
60 Grad V2 wassergekühlt - hört sich an wie meine Aprilia RSV Mille ´01.
Sehr schön!
CB 500 jealous now
the CB500's sound never was beautiful to my ears. Enjoyable, yes, but not beautiful :D
Schaaf in Germany, complaining about a lack of twisties 😅 Yeah, we're not as lucky as you guys.
there's plenty of great twisties in Germany but there's way too many villages in between them. The population density is the actual issue. Some of your roads are absolutely magnificent!!! But it's rare to find long stretches of twisties where you can ride hard without annoying anyone.
@@Schaaf very true. I remember when I drove to other countries, how relaxing it felt to just drive 15+km of twisty country road without interruption. Can't have that here.
still prefer moto guzzi. In the end, they are better Harley when riding, in my humble opinion, reliable, quick enough, with a more sweet set of sound even also the clunk gearbox it's lovely...
🙂 V2s are always nice, but this one would become annoyingly loud to me quickly while riding it, and its not excatly engaging anyway
It's not loud at all
Als V 2 ganz gut. Ich empfehle die MV Agusta 750 F 4. Schenial
🤔🤔🤔 es gibt so viele geile Sounds, der V4 Sound von Aprilia, BMW's Holy grail of farts, schreiende reihen Vierer, voluminöse ami V2, Einzylinder braaaap,.... ich kann mich nicht entscheiden was der beste Sound ist.
Ich in Wahrheit auch nicht ;)
The rarest V-Rod variant, basically a naked bike built around the V-Rod motor, these are also the most expensive V-Rod variants on the used market save for the handful of Destroyers that were sold. These sound even better with a good aftermarket exhaust on them.
that's true, I once heard one with a screaming eagle I think. That was insane. Way too loud for my taste though