PRO PSYTRANCE / EDM: KICK BASS and Phase Correction in 10 Minutes with XFER SERUM.
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This is a series about making big sounds the easy way. Friendly for begginners and useful for advanced producers.
Fix kick and bass issues in very simple steps. All with the same synthesizer.
Learn how to identify Phase issues and get ahead of your game.
(english version)
In this tutorial you will learn:
How to make a high-quality kick drum patch using only Serum.
How to make a psytrance bass patch using Serum.
How to sculpt the harmonics of your bassline using Serum’s wavetable editor instead of EQ for a more stable bassline.
How to phase align your kick and bass using Serum’s phase knob.
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It's funny cos I started out a month ago with psytrance with kind of a mix together, but now I'm just looking at kick tuts cos my kick was no where near, this is such a science to get right. Thanks a lot for this video.
Hey man thanks for your comment. Yeah it's one simple but very intricate job to knit the kick and bass together .
In my opinion serum still delivers some of the best tightness and control although the envelope(lfo ) is linear and not logarithmic. The grid lock also is very helpful to know ranges and have recallable points where it is good and not so good and get back into range.
I still use serum for all my kicks I might make an update tutorial on the more refined technique but this is the jist of it really.
The tick envelope ( or pitch envelope 2), try to make that one undet 1 or 2ms for a more natural sounding top end or attack of your kick.
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u should look at audija kickdrum plugin is very simple and has a cool phase align function that is missing on kik2 :) very nice plugin
@ 5:00 when you talk about the decay of the envelopes for the bass, you can double click the number and type 1/16. Nice tutorial dude
thanks a lot for the NEAT trick! its always good to learn new things!!! :D
@@HomegrownAudioChannel also if you click the lock icon in the envelope editing windows, it will scale the display so that it always shows the contour in full, for easier editing of each of the envelope stages' curvature.
Just need to enable double click for typeable values first
I didnt even think about a Kick in Serum now this is all I'm using
🙏 Me too! 🙋♂️
I don't get it.. what did you use before?
Really awesome Tutorial man! Its great that you adjust the phase of the kick so easily in serum. I might start making kicks in Serum rather than Kick 2 sometimes.
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Homegrown Audio Channel 🤟🌀❤️
I never saw anyone doing anything like that and I was very impressed, thank you very much!
Thank u very much ❤️
Very nice tutorial :-) Approved!
Wooooo ❤️!!!
accessible even to absolute beginners, thanks!
thaks for making this great tutorial... i like in particular the harmonic alignment which i had no clue of 😊
Really well done tutorial thanks
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This is what I call mastery ! Thank you for sharing !
Thank you for your kind words :)
Amazing! i got a very nice result! I produce about 10 years and never get a so high level bass so quickly like this one! Very good! Tnks! hugs from Brazil
Thank you for your amazing feedback!!! this is the result i wanted to see :D
Make more tutorials awesome and informative videos
Definitely will look into making kicks in serum as well now. Great to see phase alignment done so easy!
Thank you very much for your comments if u have any doubt let us know
Great video dude!! I produce Psytrance for nearly 5 years now and I never made my own kicks in serum but now I will haha I have to try and tweak a little because I prefer a more proggy style kick but your video changed my game of dealing with phase alignment. Keep it up man!
Thank you very much!!! :D Very happy to see the reactions. :)
seriously dude , you have the coolest voice and accent ;), great tut my friend
Thanks a lot for the support and awesome feedback 🙏😊
Amazingly well explained, thanks !!!
Thank you! I will keep them coming! :D
That's fascinating, it never occurred to me how quickly you can achieve results in Serum for a Kick, and the brickwall at 2:43 just comes so casually. And the idea about moving the phase of the sine wave is fucking genius! :"D
Thank you very much 🙏
Top my friend..........Thanks for the great tutorial
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Awesome! Been making psy for ages and this was a really fresh approach :) thanks!
It is great to know it is helping advanced producers as well ! Thank you for your comment.
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Super stuff!
that phase stuff is killer, thanks for this amigo!
Boom!! My pleasure brotha ❤️
Massive tutorial. Very well done. Thanks
Thank you for the feedback! 😊
Nice tutorial , thank you !!
I look forward to new tutorials from you !!
Great tutorial, excelent info, thanks! Specially the "EQing" of the bass with the level of the harmonics gives an amazing result and control
Thank you very very much
Very Nice tutorial!
Thank you very much 🙌
excellent ,thanks a lot ,
Great tutorial Thanks so much
Can't wait for another 🙂
Thank u!!
Great man ! awesome
Thank u
Killer tutorial Mr Tron. Interesting stuff. Hands up
BOOOOOM thanks a lot my brotha!! Show us your results when u had a chance to try!!
great tutorial, unique approach, but efficient. great job,thx!
Thank you for the comment! Will keep publishing tips and tricks weekly stay tuned 😊
Great one !
Boom!
Always struggled to manage correctly dynamic and frequency balances control in the bass signal, this harmonic trick within serum is Amazing !!!
Now we have full control without messing up with phase and overall dynamic ! thanks :D
It also confirms that serum is a fucking beast :D
Keep it up !!!!!
Thanks a lot!! :D
mega tutorial brother, muchas gracias por la info!
Checa el de kick con vital esta buenazo ese sinte
Thanks for the tutorial!! Very helpful!!!
Thank you for the feedback 😊❤️
Thanks bro, great tutorial ! Learned alot for using serum , especially making kicks there ! thx baba
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Awesome tutorial dude, serum never ceases to amaze.
Thanks a lot!! And yeah i also keep finding new things on this synth. Its genius.
Excellent tutorial! Thank you
Thanks to you for the feedback :)
Nice tutorial patricio! \m/
Thank you very much amigo!
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eso carnaaaal esta super video yeahhh!!
Gracias!!!! Rifadizimo!!!
Very well explained!! Best teacher everrrrr with nice voice hehe :P
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Very very nice bro
Thank you 🙏
very good explanation!! help me!!! in creating the bass in the serum, when you put the Env2 in the filter cutoff how do you increase the cuttof so that it gets all the high frequencies??
Very very nice Tron! Just one little recommendation to make it even better, if I may, because I can see how starters could have questions about a few things you did... I think going a slight bit more in depth with a very short explanation on why you do something that's "out of the ordinary" for many people who are in their first years of production, like exoscope 6:05 for example. I don't know if everybody understood what to watch you for in the scope.
I could be wrong and I know you have a 10min format, but maybe a short explanation here and there could add even more educational value :) ...and otherwise great video. Keep that up.
Definitely and thanks a lot for the feedback! I wanted to pack it all in a bitesize tutorial and skipped a bit thru explanation. Also first ever tutorial hehe but really thanks for your comment. It is great observation I will Def try to get more detailed info.
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Killa bro! top quality knowledge :D
Thanks dude!! 😊😊
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This was really helpfull, thank you for sharing
thank you for your time! ill keep them coming :D
Brilliant!
Thank you!! ❤️
Nice one mate ! :)
U seen it first hand but is always good to have a reference here 😊
Thats awesome Man, best video about kick and bass phase ever. Just a question, dont use any more processing plugin on basslinee? Like Saturn or transx (what always change the phase)
I definitely do and I will cover that side of things in the next couple of weeks!
@@HomegrownAudioChannel looking forward!
You can always check your phase on LFO tool as well by putting your kick and bass in a mix bus and putting LFO tool on your mix bus for a phase reference.
Totally yes. But it's not quite as clear and phase is upside down! 😅🤪
Occularscope from www.bomshankamachin.es is what I use now and it's free 😊 with cool feature for ableton bad delay compensation on lookahead plugins
Thanks, top-notch explanation. Quick question, what´s your suggestions to glue Kick + Bass Channel? In my opinion its very useful to insert a glue compressor or some kind or saturation, even sometimes not as an insert but as a separeted multiband parallel process.... thanks again !
Totally!! Parallel is killer I do a bit of that in a later video!
For kick I generally use multiband distortion or saturation on channel. Compression on the group helps a lot with the undesired thumps.
Parallel compression is super good to get it all sounding punchy 🥁.
I would just do 1 or 2db compression on each stage (except parallel) where I go to town
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@@HomegrownAudioChannel Thanks 4 your answer dude, and yea both techniques are very useful and with different goals, but from my pov they contribute to each other. on more thing, whats your opinion bout low level white noise to glue harmonic sounds such bass? I´ve been doing some tech research and maybe a layered white or brown noise could be helpful also at the sound design stage very use it (if so) at mastering....good vibez !
Continue com os videoes, é muito dificil encontrar isso aqui no brasil. muito bom parabens
thanks man, really pro stuff
Thank you 🙏
OccularScope by Bom Shanka Machines is another good free scope which has tempo built in, so the waveform doesn't drift. Highly recommended
My favorite. Best most easy to use scope
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This is great! Quick question, Is it a good idea to have very short kick drums, basically 1/16th length so the kick and bass do not overlap and then you wont have any phase issues? Maybe it is too short? Thanks!
I find a 16th is too short In most cases for my personal taste, but yes definitely can be done in a nice way. Pitch envelope would have to be quicker and probably the real thump of the kick be not so prominent
@@HomegrownAudioChannel Awesome, will try the best option! Thanks master!
I make my kicks about 3/32 or 1/16 dotted... Gives enough time for it and bass to gel.
@@HomegrownAudioChannel Oh cool! I will try to get those time for my kick drums. I was trying with 1/16 and I think it was working but then switched to 1/8 and I felt the song sounds bigger. Would you say it also depends on the type of bassline?? Like I wonder how would it work with other genres, specially the ones that layer bass and kick drum. Thanks like always!!
Muchas gracias!
A ti por tu comment! Vienen más tutoriales cada semana 😊
super master
Could you please explain this further?
-Are you inserting mexoscope on the master channel, right? You wanna see what, exactly? A nice sinewave? I noticed you adjusted the phase til the waveform started to look senoidal.
-Do you ever used bazzism for the kicks? Don´t you prefer it?
Thanks buddy
I used bazzism for many years. It is beautiful plugin very simple and u can get a very good kick.
Problem is no phase correction from oscillator so if u wanna phase the kick with bass on the kick side u have to change pitch curve which is going to change the sound a lot... Is why I prefer serum
And yes s(m)exoscope I put on stereo out to check mix on end of kick and beggining of bass. (also end of bass and beggining of kick is important to separate).
I aim for a sine looking kick end but also I look for the kick not changing shape with or without the bass playing.
@@HomegrownAudioChannel thx a lot for the reply mate! Got it.
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No Sausager Fattener?! 2/10 xD. Great video man, especially how you make kicks in Serum, this a real winner for anyone who already bought Serum (and probably should if they don't own it) and can't afford Bazzism or Kick 2 or simply don't want to learn yet another plugin!
Thanks a lot !!! :D haha No sausage here is also vegan friendly. :D
Hello Sir , really dig your tutorials ! i have a question for you , if you dont mind answering it or i would love to see a tutorial on it if possible . how do you deal with bassline note changes , i mean retaining the punchiness yet have those harmonics of the note changes and sounds cohesive with kick even as the phase of the bassline changes with the note change . Thanks in advance sir :)
Hello! Great question.
In terms of phasing there is gonna be a problem when changing the first b of the kbbb cos will mix on the kick differently.
Some notes will be fine with certainkick phase positions some won't. First is to get the best kick phase position.
Second is eq on different notes. U can adapt an eq like equilibrium to follow midi so the bands follow the harmonics.
I generally use a different synth for hi notes and other for low notes too
@@HomegrownAudioChannel oww is it ?! I didn't know equilibrium could do that . was using surfer eq but slopes are not that steep and very less eq points can be setup . as you said I was trying out equilibrium but wasn't able to figure out how to setup it up to follow the harmonics . could you please shed some light on that ?
@@akraghav92 easy.. if you wanna set it up you need to open menu and select GUI midi input ON.
Then just open a new midi track and assign its output into equilibrium, and copy the midi pattern from your bassline.
Great video! Could you suggest me how to apply the phase alignment on recorded audio. E.g. a kick from Tanzbar2 drummachine and the bassline from Minitaur. Thank you! :)
I would try if its a small discrepancy pitching down the kick to get them sync. Pha 797 from voxengo is a good tool to align the bass from that side
I prefer to make the kick tho and change it over the tune it gives you the absolute best result
+1 for PHA-979 by Voxengo. It's on sale at Plugin Boutique right now for £40. Very useful plugin if you use a mixture of home made and sampled kick and bass. You can use it for other sounds too, for example layered drums, to ensure you get a nice transient without big spikes or dips.
great stuff man! I ve got a question though, how would you solve phasing issues when working with a plug such as kick 2 or bazzism which do not have the phase knob as serum does. What plug in would you recommend using?
I'd mess in case of kik2 maybe start with the leftmost point on pitch envelope. Will be a bit of a compromise but u can find a good phasing point like this (if you are happy with the rest of the pitch curve, that is..) if not, right most point or curve I would adjust untill it sync.
With bazzism either move a bit the end frequency or slightly the curve on the left
If what u want is a plugin for correction would be on the bass.. Voxengo pha 979
@@HomegrownAudioChannel Thank you brother! Much love! Keep up the great work!
Is there any way to remove the click on the bass with the serum wavetable editor?
The click is the fast attack on envelope 1 if u want less click you can turn the attack up less than 1ms u will take a bit of it off. It will be a bit weird for trance u kinda need that clicky bass transient.
Also you can check envelope 2 shape and/or turn a bit down the env2 - > cutoff ammount
How con I get Ableton Live to accept changes in velocity for Serum? The velocity doesn´t seem to affect the bass at all. Cheers
you have to assign velocity to modulate the osc or global volume in Serum first
Yes I didn't assign velocity but u just have to drag and drop to the parameter u wanna mod. (eg osc level or filter cutoff)
Cool aasigned in Matrix Vel --> Amp and turn right. It worked. Cheerios!!!
@@brightschool4413 You can also adjust the velocity curve in the velocity section bottom right :)
Buenissimo!!!
muchas gracias!! ya esta el video en español subiendo ahora!
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how to configure equilibrium? Stereo Min/side?
bands in equilibrium are all stereo bands there. it is setup as lin phase but each band u can select if you want to use it as mid, side or as stereo band.
Configuration on settings goes quite deep though!
Is the time parameter on the mexoscope depends on the bpm? is there a way of calculating this with different tempos? ¡Gracias!
Really not sure in real life terms how to calculate since it is measured in pixels vs samples. Its beyond me at this point !!!
This is the Smartelectronix explanation.
Time controls the number of pixels per sample. The lower the number, the finer the resolution of the waveform. The lowest value is 31.62 pixels to draw every sample, and the highest setting is 0.001... meaning that every pixel of length represents 1000 samples.
The waveform itself will change colours to indicate if it is above or below 1 sample per pixel. At a Time of 1 or lower, a grey waveform display shows that more than one sample is compressed into each pixel. When Time is set higher than 1, a blue waveform indicates that the resolution uses more pixels to draw each sample. The figure below demonstrates the differences between extreme time settings.
bram.smartelectronix.com/scope_docs/
You should buy the latest Computer Music magazine, download the plugin vault and use VPS Scope instead. You can sync it to bpm, much easier than smex.
There is a nice trick in this vid th-cam.com/video/FSzP2_AO0DQ/w-d-xo.html
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To make triplets first you have to jack some serious fertility drugs.
We can do balagan triplet style for sure XD
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@@HomegrownAudioChannel triple tap, boom, boom, boom, bolenat.
I analyze it with fabfilter pro-Q, and it barely goes over 2khz, why's that?! I have nothing EQed at all, nothing on master or whatsoever, everything similar to your example.
The top part of kick is going only to 2 kHz? Where did u paint the midi notes? Very important is between c3 and c4 which is the middle part of keyboard
I can't find your other comment but I will reply here. The env2 modulation is going into coarse pitch as well... The edit on the video ended up a bit too long and the drag up doesn't seem to show.. In the zoom in part on matrix tab u can see when I say unipolar that mod is on crs pitch - >
@@HomegrownAudioChannel Guess it was an readout error or something. It sounds good, and when having a 4 Kick Pattern it reaches >9k well :)
@@HomegrownAudioChannel yes, I was blind or dumb :D found it .. thx mate, great job!
Ah no man not at all I did the video edit wrong and I really appreciate the comment and the feedback I will be more careful with edit in future vids !!! ❤️
Can I edit the phase of base line, not kick?
You can but it mess the transient and the harmonics. Generally is best to leave bass phase in the start of the waveform.
@@HomegrownAudioChannel Thank a lot!
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thaks for making this great tutorial... i like in particular the harmonic alignment which i had no clue of 😊