How To Make A Psytrance Bassline: "Full Processing"
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E-Clip is a psy progressive oriented project created by Marko Radovanovic aka Radule from Belgrade. Marko has been producing psytrance music since 2002 when he was working on his full-on project called beyondecliptica. In 2009 he started to work on his psy - progressive trance project and E-Clip was born. He released with labels such as Blue Tunes, Spin Twist, Yellow Sunshine Explosion, Iono music & TesseracT Studio, and played at countless events and festivals such as Boom Festival, Ozora Festival, Hadra, Universo Paralello etc.
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NO ONE SO EVER made this kind of video, and we burn our brains for years to find a way to make this kind of bassline, 2 years ago after testing so many plugins and combinations between them, we find perfect rack and of course we learn the best synthesis and for our surprise on see this video is pretty much this also 2 years ago was when we find a way to use the quadrafuzz 01 on ableton so thats was the point! thanks for sharing this HUGE knowledge! you are the best! Lots of people gonna finally have a good bassline
Incredible tutorial, thanks so much for doing these! I've never heard anyone else mention this technique of using multiband plugins just for shaping/phase...but I started doing it after watching this and it really makes a huge difference!
E-clip is amazing. I had the immense honor of seeing it boom. an incredible moment that inspired me to create my music. Here I am to follow all these tutorials with attention.
Next Tutorial: Mixing Tips (Drums, Leads, Pads etc.) 😁 Thank You for all Tutorials they ar very useful!!
This tutorial was more helpful than the previous one hundred I watched in the last two years. It’s sure I’ll buy your tutorial bundle in a few days.
Meanwhile, it would be amazing to have a tutorial for a decent KbBB kick + bassline from scratch (no samples) in F# minor 138 BPM. Many of my favorite tracks have it, probably because a lot of psytrance tracks are in F# minor. For example, Divination - Shot in the Dark, Lyktum - Symmetry, E-Clip - Radio Entelechy, Ilai and Vandeta - Alien Disinformation, Side Effects - Shape Shifter, etc.
Another amazing topic would be vocals, such as E-Clip - Indian Spirit, Sonic Entity & Ilai - DMT Perception, Rinkadink - Ultima (Protoculture Remix). This topic would be also great without using samples. Zebra2/ZebraHZ and Omnisphere have a few female vocals that might work if one knows the secrets of processing.
If any of these are covered in your tutorial bundle, it’s great. I just found your channel two days ago.
Edit: I with the generation of the original wave was included.
Also , please tell in more details your approach for track processing , THE MUST TO KNOW issues, typical mistakes, the main principles and step by steps for preparing samples, clips, multitracks for mixing and mastering. With some details on where can we leave midi or audio files, where it could be applicable, and so on. Many chhers !
Making a kick from scratch would be nice. With Kick 2 and all the post processing you do.
th-cam.com/video/vfVlS92rD4E/w-d-xo.html
Love it thx a lot!
Could you do a tutorial where you explain your way to handle basslines which vary in notes?
For sure!
yea, this would be great.!!! double it!
Legend E-Clip Psytrance
Thanks again for your amazing tutorials. Maybe next tutorial for those crazy psy leads in the style of electric universe and outsiders. They Sound amazing and i have absolutly no clue, how they make them.
But everything from you is always good. Keep the good workl up
As always - killah tutorial.
thanks for the tutorial... always good to see different approaches on doing the same thing, especially if it's something so fundamental as processing kick and bass... the rest is a bit more flexible and you can be more forgiving with different techniques, but the kick and bass should be perfect, or the whole track will not sound good.
Whole drums are really difficult, hihats are also really hard. Snare is difficult as well. When you go deeper, it is really problematic
@@EClipChannel hi hat tutorial please mate:P
Hajd' Marko - Spremni smo!
Magic Data as usually! Thank u soo much Marko!! Much love!
Yeah I was looking for a tutorial like that! Thank you very much! And, because I still have the old Cubase 5.1 here, I'll get Jbridge and get Quadrafuzz 1 into my Cubase 11
Thanks man, you are a awesome person 🙏🏻
awesome thank you
Please, tell more bout kick and base phase alignment along with anoverview of popular features like neutral phase, zero latency and so on in famous Eqs like FABQx. Great lesson !
I’m currentlly recordning a full course, EVERYTHING INCLUDED, started with empty project, and each of sounds that have ended in the track has been recorded on video. Cpurse will come with a template, pressets & all the files that were inside this track.
@@EClipChannel anxious to get that !
Another epic tutorial!! Thank you for the knowledge sire⚡✌️you're amazing 🙏😉
Bravo buraz!...Mnogi tranceri nemaju pojma ko I'm objasnjava...Pravis odlicnu muziku!Ppzdrav
Your tutorials are changing the game for me my man! Thanks for putting the work in. I just wanted to ask if you have used EQuilibrium, and if so what are the benefits of Pro Q-3 over EQuilibrium as your main workhorse EQ besides the obvious stuff like CPU usage?
I prefere ProQ3 as i’m used on it, and it haves linear phase, whoch is really important if you lowcut something and you don’t want to change phase (Ussually for Bassline and Kick) while Equilibrium change a phase a lot, and i use it when i search for phase change and that way to design a bassline. Also i use Equilibrium as it have those two faders Mid and Side, and i use it mosttly when i want to have same level on mid and on side.
I appreciate this tutorial... does anyone know any tutorials to make a groovy glide rolling bassline in Cubase that is easy to understand? Thanks!
Quality content, thanks! Really creative technique of using multiband plugins to shape the phase of the bassline and make it sound huge!
Thank you very much for those useful tutorials, they help a lot :) ! the only thing still bothering me is processing basslines on different notes. Its difficult to get the different notes sounding fat on there own but still sounding coherent in context. Any tips?
Its always fun and motivating to watch your tutorials. Thank you! 🙂
It was a really great video , I personally would like to see some grid work, how to start from when the kick and bass is done along with the hi hats and snare. So if you could create a video with some grid tips and tricks it would be awesome, I often find it hard to create elements which are coherent. Best regards
Do you mean who to start a track after building the drum stems?
@@EClipChannel This is what I understood too. He has trouble fitting samples & sounds on the drum path.
Awswom, i could just continue with this project and fill in some atmospheres and bulid the sequence
@@EClipChannel I acutally meant that some small synths stabs, fm, atmo comes together fro ex in your track at the beggining : th-cam.com/video/Z6CBE3Ua70U/w-d-xo.html from the first drop after kick and bass the elements are coming in one by one, that is what I meant. But actually I am so glad for any video you create, so thank you for the efforts, a for the good vibes.
Amazing, thank you so much
Thank you very much E-Clip I was waiting a long time.. you are the best
Ah eclip eclip eclip. I hear your accent in my head when i am producing now its hilarious. My new mentor! I was meant to support you when you played in Melbourne but i had another gig in the bush. Damn!!!
I would love to see some sound design advice on pads and big wide spacey synths!
More importantly I would love some more tutorials on the mixdown. The levels theories etc and i would love to learn the mistakes that you can make when mixing that are going to make the master less fat. Keep up the great work ! watching all of your videos Thankyou !
After playing the video always more motivated to make music. Thanks you !
DO psytrance Delays... that would be a cool video :D
thank you I'm using this knowledge for my darkpsy tracks
I can make some tutors in that topic as well :)
E-Clip will be awesome!
Perfect man ! thanks a lot for your help and work !
Awesome!!! Thank you for those huge Tips of processing!!!
im fucking knew that today is the day that you publish this nice video , finnaly got it thanks a lot brother
thanks a lot for the great tutorials!
thank you E-Clip good luck
I didn't know the Vitamine one ;) nice :D :p
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Great stuff see you on the dance floor
thank you so much! your tutorials are very helpfull.! thanks marko
Legend. Thank you bro!
awesome work bro
Thx for this new amazing tutorial !
hello mate!!!! awesome tutorial as usual =D!!! thx a lot !!! one question, do you are using the lfotool at pre fader?
Thnkx Marko ! Great Video
Finally secret of my daily medicine is out :D Big thanks from Slovakia
Big thanks from
Czech as well
You r good teacher thx you love you
Learn from you a lot. Now you have new friend in Israel
I have a lot of friends from Israel, but always a pleasure to have one more ❤️
Super :) always sharing the good stuffs . Thank you very much .
My pleasure!
Amazing tips , thanks a lot !
thanks man!
Thanks to this luxury, could you make a video on how to create kick and layered bass and the processing?
I already did the video for the kick, chek my pervious video, and you will find the topic about the kick
Where do I get the quadrafuzz?
Amazing explanation thank you ❤🔥❤🔥💯
Very good tutorial my friend...
master master
Amazing!!!
hey mister..could you please make a video or just advise here how can you have an old quadrafuzz in 64 bit cubase? what bridging tool are you using please?
thanks!
Baita conteúdo, obrigado!
Excelent Video. Thanks.
Thank you, this was great and I learned a lot. Would it be possible to do a tutorial on kick drum transient? I find kick 2 has super harsh transient and when comparing to pro tracks they have a nice transient which doesnt sound painful to the ears.
Kick2 is harsh as all other plugins, post processing is the key, how you shape it after the synthesys!
Great stuff as always! cheers
Great videos! can you show more about structure an arrangement and maybe some techniques for fx synthesis in serum. Thanks for the useful knowledge!
Many thanks for this!!
Brate
E - Clip
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Great stuff Eclip .. thanks for your time and help.. I always find my self creating a decent bassline, lead and add synths but always find my self with something missing, fx, atmosphere or those extra sounds that fill and spice up the tracks any tips on that ? Thanks
Thanks you once again !!!
Hey mate great toutorial as always. Just wondering if quadrafuzz 1.7 is still good for use in this application. I heard they changed quadrafuzz and wondering if 1.07 is still any good
Quadrafuzz v.1 is out of use for a very long time. I did a “walk-around” to make it work. Not sure if is it even legal to suggest it since the plugin is completely out of use for a long time.
killa!
Much gratitude for sharing your years of knowledge. Really appreciate it. I just wanted to ask, I went ahead and bought the PHA 979 plugin and im using it in ableton, but its introducing so much latency in the chain 46.9ms, its making it hard to work with the plugin to use it. Ableton isn't delay compensating it properly for some reason, even though delay compensation is turned on in ableton live 10. I tried contacting voxengo about it, but they don't seem to care and told me its not the plugins fault, but its only happening within ableton, not Logic. Anyone else experiencing this?
Yes, this is the main problem of Ableton, and the reason why I don't use it, as its delay compensation is really bad. I advise you to use the latency knob on the left side of Pha 979 and reduce the latency. You will need some kind of Oscilocope plugin so that you can check how much of latency you should correct. Also, it's really clever after you finish with the processing and all plugins, it's really good to bounce in audio and use audio instead of the Instrument track, while you can keep the instrument track there just in case you need to change some settings later on. That is a really good idea as after some time you can have plenty of different Basses in audio and you can just tweak them and reuse in further tracks
@@EClipChannel , makes sense. Thank you!
@@fl33k59 Hi Fl33k, i have the same problem :(
It is super annoying that the delay compensation in ableton works so badly... Have you managed to "fix" it somehow?
thanks!
Thanks @E-clip!!! Don't you Low-cut the bassline btw ? or do you do that in later stages with a linear EQ ? or is that what you're doing with the bx_digitalV3 for ? you never explained those :)
Second Fab-Q3 have the lowcut on 40hz 18db per octave.
@@EClipChannel oh didnt see 🙈
Batica kida mjuzu
Boaaa
I want this all plugin
Can you try to make kick bass and percussion just like in astrix sahara ?
Yes, I can. Let me write to Avi and ask is he ok with it.
@@EClipChannel nice , hope he will ok , if not it would be nice if you teach this one :
open.spotify.com/track/4Z8RdgwOc920FW0Zxka5YC?si=KkoyWVV7TZCRwqXPgnFBRg
Middle Mode Rising shaman , they are Pro too
Dont people get sick or bored copying kicks and what-not ? No. I guess that is what makes this genre sound so dull and boring
@@AudioPervert1 It's all about what you like,maybe we will find boring your taste,but we respect it anyway.
I think the Vitamin plugin isn't doing anything since all the faders are off
My advice is to listen, not watch! If you don't hear the difference before and after Vitamin then I cannot help you much.
heey bro nice video as always! i have a question.. you use the multibands in the beginning to adjust the phase to your taste , right? if I use just the Voxengo PHA 979 to adjust the phase of the bass will it be the same thing as you did with all that multiband plugins or there's something else to it? (color of each plugin, etc)
With multibands it doesnt work the same, it is not just the phase position, it is a different kind of phase manipulation as it change the waveform differentlly, while PHA979 you only change the phase position!
@@EClipChannel ok, thank you! gonna test on the next tracks
Woooooow 😍
Quadrafuzz is the only (distortion) Plugin in the World, where can enhance your Bassline without touching a knob^^ or just by tweaking the crossover of the bands^^
Have you take the way of replacing the vst manager files from Cubase ...9,10.5 with them of Cubase 8 to make working the Jbridged version? Or is there a better working solution?
Greats tutorials:) hope some day you show how to make a good old groovy Fullon bassline:)
I found a version od dll that worked just with jBridge, i downloaded several dlls and one of the worked. I tryed with replacing the VST manager but CB crashed so i broth back the original
E-Clip Super thank you, I will also look for this👍
Had afraid of becoming a unstable cubase when replacing these files, so i don‘t have try
@@shroomadelics did you found any stable .dll for that if so, can you share that please?
George Sánchez Hey, As soon as I have some free time this weekend, I will search and try a few. Sure, I will report it as soon as I know more.
George Sánchez After a few Hours of try, i have found a working Version. But i had to set „seperated GUI mood“ Option in Jbridge for displaying correctly the „edit“ section.
Please at all: I want to avoid spaming E-Clip‘s comment area, so I won't anymore reply here in future. I have already done the most difficult preliminary work with my search and testing, you should already know the rest yourself or be able to learn it via google.
Over google you will find the working Quadrafuzz in
„Steinberg Cubase SX VST Plugins Pack 1 & 2 Unlocked“
how I substitue the multiband envelope shaper? The transX doesn't work the same way
you should watch all the videos. Replacement for Quadrafuzz is MSaturator MB fromMelda Production and replacement for Envelope SHaper Multiband is MTransientMB from Melda Production
@@EClipChannel Thank you so much!
I tried but the bass lost the most low information. Any suggestions??
Thanks in avance
I’m learning a lot with you ☯️
How did it lose the low information? Low can be reduced only if you do so, if you didn't do any lowcut or if you didn't reduce low information they couldn't be lost.
You might feel that way as there is a lot of mid and high information, but low information is still there.
@@EClipChannel thanks man 🙏🏼
Ill review the process to find where it happened 🤦🏼♂️
can you please explain how you made Quadrafuzz 1 working with jbridge without getting the annoying error message ??
Was searching on the web for "quadrafuz.dll" and I found several versions from different sites, one of those worked.
@@EClipChannel thanks ! so lets go on the hunt for it hehe
Marco , excuse my english , i have a problem of tune between bass ( coming from audio sample or vsti ) and sample , and vst ( playing arrangement ) . can you tell me how i can change this or verify the bass tune and the other tune sound to be sure they are in same tune perfectly ?
i hope the best for you and your family , booooom
I do that by ears, but there are many tuner plugins, but i cannot tell you are they precious.
how do you deal with different notes on the bassline? different than the route note.
Great tuts really! thank you!
Mostlly with dynamic eq, you should see on analyzer when nnotnis changed, it ussualy peak on the note frequency. When you see on what frequency it peaks, you put narrow Q on that frequency and you compress only that freq. if it peaks on second harmonic, than you repeat the proces on that one as well. Fab-Q have dynanic option, but i recommend Melda DynamicEq or some other that you like.
@@EClipChannel thank you very much :)
How did you get quadrafuzz to run in Ableton? I got the VST but an error appears saying it’s an Cubase plugin
i think its not possible to make it work in Ableton, I use CuBase
E-Clip that’s not good to hear :( Do you know any other way to get similar “plasticness” for the bass? Thank you for the response btw🙌🏼
@@mrboberg41 Melda Saturator MB
Hi! One question please.is it possible to fix the Phase problem with the wave plugin called in Phase. ? Regards Axel
InPhase is working on a time correction , it moves the notes left or right to match with desired channel, if you do it on kick and bass you will get kinda swing effect, and coz of that it didnt sound good when i tryed it. Maybe i did something wrong but that my expirience with InPhase. Pha979 is only plugin that works with moving the phase in taht way. There is 1 more plugin in UAD pack that works the same, but i don’t have UAD
@@EClipChannel thx
@@EClipChannel Hi! I found a very good advice for rooting the kick&bass track into the psyscope.
By this way you can see both tracks in different colours. Is easier to see what happens whith the Phase. th-cam.com/video/4Wg99W7bxhY/w-d-xo.html
Regards
curious about the quadrafuzz 1 version you are using and is it running in cubase 10.5 ?
I have 10.5 but i don’t use it, as when i installed it , CB10.5 pukled a lot of plugins in Blacklist, so i wait until some nice update shows up.
But on CB10 it works as you can see
@@EClipChannel interesting , but have to admit that i didn't had exactly that quadra dll (got only the version from cubase 5 ) and yes plug in blacklist can be a pain the ass
hi everyone, I would like to have the name of the software used please;)
Thank you wishing you a 2021 year of festivals !!!!
He uses Cubase ;)
@@Ineffable_Experience thanks bro 👌
que programa es?
🙏❤
can someone send me please quadrafuzz 1
As i said, visit www.google.com and type quadrafuzz.dll , you will find plenty of different version, its a bit struggle to find one working, but this is how i did it!
How many EQ you used to reduce the frequency ? 😨😨😨😨😨
A LOT!
@@EClipChannel of course your train ear can pick up the frequency you don't want, but I never used or take that amount of frequency in one sound,
I've been always told if you need that many Eq to tweak the sound, stop tweaking, go back to your Synth and fix the sound from there.
But your results was good eventhough you used lot's plugin special eqs
@@PrinceOfPersiamusic Then do it!
@@PrinceOfPersiamusic One thing is the Synthesis in the VSTi , and another thing is how you process that Synthesis. You cannot make everything in the VSTi, as the true magic happens in the processing. When you design your bassline, you will make it sound good when you listen to kick and bass only, but when you start dropping other elements inside the project, you will need to make some corrections in order to blend it and to mix it properly with other elements. All this you saw in the video is not necessary, but I'm am obsessed with making kick and bass to sound perfect, and I promise you that without EQ is not possible to do so.
What do you mean by plasticness?
From ussualy synthesys saw it just make it to sound “kinda” plastic. It is my expression as this is how i feel explaining what quadrafuzz do with the sound. Maybe wrong , but it is how i try to explain it.
Couldn’t fab filter Saturn be a replacement for quadrafuzz?
It is good, but not close to quadrafuzz. Quadrafuzz is really unique, it is emulation of LED distorsion, and i didnt find any plugin that gives that kind of “plastickness” as quadrafuzz. Melda MSaturatirMB is the best replacment for me
E-Clip oh, I like melda
I’ll check that out
@@EClipChannel
is there any way to use quadrafuzz on ableton?
I dont think so, bit i also wounder how nobody is trying to bring it back or somehow bridge it to work on other daws
But you can use Vitamin from Waves, it actually give similar resoult as quadrafuz, try to put 2x Vitamin
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quadrafuzz 64bits?
32 + jBridge!
but Melda MSatruartorMB works almost the same as Quadrafuzz 1
my jbridge error asks for cubase sx, if you could make quadrafuzz google drive available
@@dznkrl i'm not sure would that be a legal thing to do.
uowwwwww
thanks a lot for the video, now I have to reinstall waves and their waveshells bs. the worst software to install.
Amazing wow!!!!! Ukraine 🇺🇦
superstar lololol
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Daj nesto i na srpskom! Bio bi red.
Uaaauu
reply samo na eng komene hah
I’m a bit sad that in a scene that professes to be creative and different we are now making basslines like this. It feels like painting by numbers.
This is not about the creative process, this is the Sound Design process. When you separate those 2 processes, you can be more creative.
First, you design your stems, and after that, you go to the creative process. The next video is about that! This video doesn't have anything with creativity.
E-Clip I understand what you’re saying but pretty much everyone is using the same or similar patterns these days and my argument is that is lacking in creativity. It’s the reason Simon Posford says he doesn’t produce trance anymore. Because he hates the basslines....and I am just agreeing with him.
E-Clip Didn’t mean to put your tutorial down man. You clearly know what you’re doing.
Why do you think that it the true what Simon Posford says? If he dont like it, that is hes choice or taste. I do love those bass lines, and it is insane to argue about the taste. You can not pull down my tutorials even if you want, and there is a lot of people who appriciate what i do, and i do it it because i remmeber how frustrated i was and how much time of my life i lost learning all of this that i offer for FREE! Your comment didnt insult me even 1% , and i appriciate your point of view. But all of this is to help youn producers to save their time, and learn fastest as pissible to make nice sound design, and save more time to be creative.
P.S. Simon is producing psytrance again.