When I was in the market for a new bike last year, I also kept running into the 40 percent more than sticker by the time you get it set up they way you want. A lot of manufacturers do this. Then the Norden 901 Expedition came out. The Expedition was $1,200 (US) more than the standard Norden 901, but it comes with everything., and I mean everything a rider typically adds on afterwards or upgrades at purchase. It comes with electronic cruise control, speed shifter, Norden's best suspension package, WP Explor and heated seats and grips, center and side stand, one of the best standard skid plates out there, rear rack, side bags, ungraded windshield and fairing (and paint scheme), full electronics ride package with all options unlocked, Bluetooth connectivity with turn-by-turn directions. I'm told that all of this would cost upwards of $4,000 (US), and I'd be swinging the wrench and wire strippers on a lot of it. I now have 1,200 miles on my 901 Expedition and pinch myself after every ride.
Driving all over the world for three on my Yamaha XT 600 I met a lot of bmw drivers but sadly all of them had problems from broken frames, gearbox ( a part of the frame) broke from the framework, leaking seals inside the shaft drive and they were all complaining about this problems should not happen to an expensive bike like this. We called them BM trouble yous at that time.
Shockingly I have a few mates that have said they wouldn’t buy another BMW because of the issues they had. But for every bad experience I’m sure there are many more good experiences
264'000 km on a LC. No serious problems that I coldn’t solve myself. Off course, if you throw the bike down from the second floor, you probably end up with a broken frame 😜.
Great video. You should get lower crash bars with enduro pack and a bash plate. Love the Triple black and the blue and white. I think spoke wheels for me.
Went for the Tramuntana edition and ticked every single option with the exception of the sports suspension...........cost a kings ransom but an absolutely brilliant bike.
The Niken is a great bike. I love mine, but I do tend to change bikes every year or so and the Niken did 6000 miles last year. So it might be time for a change.
@@GillyBikes ahh t v m for the info , I was the same Change every 6 months sometimes ,. Just for interest . Used to be zx 10”s Gsxr”s etc , now Aprilia v4 tuono factory, 1290 ktm etc ,. Niken , what are they like in traffic ?,. & do they grip at front end , like the 44 teeth etc say ?.
Yes the front end sticks to the floor. So much confidence on the bends because of that. Makes it loads of fun. It’s a little bit wider than most but I have no problem filtering with it.
This is a jack of all trades bike and a premium one. If you go for it, you’re up for a very good choice. It’s not cheap but you’re getting a lot of bike for your money. I know that, and you know that. Make it happen. It will bring you a lot of joy!
I tried the tiger 1200 when it first arrived and I was really impressed with it. I thought it was better than the 1250 GS. It was more fun. But the R1300 is better. So I would say it sits nicely in the middle of both bikes. At this very high standard of bike though you would be happy with any of them 😎
I may have induced you in error. The BMW GS 1300 is an overall, every use bike and I decided to trade my GSA for it, considering the development of the new bike and because I concluded that the 30 L gas tank wasn’t really needed as I even on longer rides, I enjoy to stop between every 200/ 250 kms of riding. The 19 L gas tank of the GS 1300 is more than enough. I have another BMW. A R nine T Scrambler (2022 model and still is a new bike with 7000 kms on the odometer) but besides the roadster retro modern style of it, which I like , torquy and powerful enough, I feel a little cramped as it is a short structure of a bike as a whole it’s Beefy, nice massive, weights more or less 230 kgs, but is not big in length and the height from the seat to the ground it’s 820 mm, I flat foot it perfectly. So, I thought it could be an idea to trade it for a new Triumph Bonneville Scrambler 1200 XE and not for a Tiger. My question was concerning this Bonneville. If you have experience and personal knowledge about it. That’s what I was seeking in terms of opinion. Thanks man and sorry for misguiding in my prior comment 👍🏻
Thank you. Yes I’ve tried the Ducati. Thats like a sports bike / adventure bike. A great bike. I will hopefully get down to Ducati soon to see what else they have.
Good advertisement "annoyed, frusturated..." you managed to attract GS haters 😅 Mostly I agree with you. I have been riding my 3rd GS (1250 adv). I know by heart the gs experience. But i have not tested the 1300 yet. Will see how it feels. Cheers and ride safe.
Saw a lad today commuting home on a black one in Manchester. Bike was dirty. Looked like a knacker. Wouldn't have looked at it twice if I didn't already know he was riding the new GS.
Hi nice bike but if you go off road it joins the list off large adventure bikes that are great touring motorcycles but too heavey for real off road unless you are very good which you may be most are not so there. Are some very good sport touring that do just as good job Road touring but cost way less
That’s my exact dilemma. So many other bikes out there that are much cheaper. I already have my Voge rally so that’s what I use for my off road rides. It would be purely for touring.
@GillyBikes hi yep hard decision sports tourer or GS many tour on both so its down to how they make you feel that is of cause if 20k is the ball park financially your in choice is large good hunting. Ride safe
Go try a V4 Rally...might need the low seat though....the GS1300 does have the self lowering chassis though 🤔.. and the dangerous rear lights set up...and all the faults that are surfacing..
Yes, I’ve seen a few mention the faults that are popping up. I’ve decided not to get one yet. It’s far too much money and a risk. I like to tour and use my bikes a lot. With it being a brand new model and having faults pop up puts me off. I will let other people test them for a year or so and see what happens.
BMW does not charges extra for better brakes. Some have BMW and some others have Brembo branded depending on the model and year. GS costs a lot of money, but it has a very high resale value. Congrats.
In my opinion, there is no way that the 1300 looks better than my R1250GS Triple Black. I just doesn't have the same presence. Also I don't like that the blinkers are in the hand guards - exactly where they would be broken when you drop it. The Akrapovic pipe on mine is a single piece which I much prefer. I also prefer my wired wheels against the version you demonstrated. Sorry, not feeling it with this bike. So funny that it's a divorce present! Same here LOL
You always have to buy yourself a divorce present 😂. The blinkers can be moved from the hand guards as part of the enduro pack. You pay more for bigger hand guards and they move the blinkers to the normal position. (Another extra) 😳
Greatings from Austria (the KTM country). Great vid man. Liked and subscribed... I absolutely understand what you mean. I hate this bike as f.... for exactly the same reason! Have ordered mine (full blown Trophy), have to wait until june.... And I always have been a Honda, Yam, and KTM Guy! I do not have a BMW car. (Everybody knows the M2 is the best car ;-() What a shame..... I hate BMW for this bike already, because it wil reside on every parking space all over the planet... Damn BMW Damn!!!!!!!!!!
Brilliant. Thanks for the Sub. You feel my pain. I’m still fighting the urge to order one. But I would go for the trophy I really like the blue and white.
What I laugh at is BMW offer this extra and that extra and then charge you on top of those extras for fitting, doesnt seem to matter how much you spend with them, enough is never enough
I've never ridden a bmw. I feel diminished as a human because of it. 😄 I'd have an rt or rs if I could afford one. The gs doesn't appeal to me at all... but as I said, I haven't ridden one, so...
I’ve always found the GS to be a bit dull and not very engaging but this bike is just like riding an enduro bike. Loads of fun and completely unexpected
Perhaps your video demonstrates the power of BMWs marketing strategy.....? By the end you are prepared to let your guard down and spend the extra Dosh. Perhaps you should reverse the strategy. Start by saying Yes I will spend £20,000. What can I buy for that .... MV Augusta, Aprilia, Ducati, HD, etc etc 😂
Better off getting a second hand Tracer , or ktm Adventure, triumph tupey or whatever : Jesus Christ , if you didn’t have any of the Extras , you’d have a 250 super dream 😴 🙄
It's completely and utterly ridiculous. A total liability when out of warranty, the cost of fixing anything on that will make it worth very little in year four, and beyond: by year eight it will be scrap because of the tech going wrong. If you purchase on finance and change before the warranty runs out, it may work --- but will cost you an absolute fortune. No wonder Royal Enfield with their back to basics ethos are doing so well.
@@GillyBikes I may offer you £5000 for your 1300 GS in three years time. It's one hell of a risk for me though to potentially be lumbered with thousands in dealer costs at £150/hour 🤔 (On second thoughts; £3500 is nearer the mark 👍)
I agree with you on the ridiculous amount of tech that will cause issues down the line. Unfortunately, it's not just BMW. KTM, Ducati are all doing it. I'll keep my so far completely reliable Yam even though its 8 years old.
This is the best bike ever driven. You talk bull man, just for attention, and you know that, sick of this scrap! Enjoy the beemer, the Balance, POWER, drivability, its just fantastisk:-)
Adventure style bikes like Jeeps or Landrovers utilitarian & not meant to be pretty . These modern BMW G S ‘s are the product of the BMW factory loosing the plot ,over the last 40 years ,& allowing computer gamer nerds ,run amok in their design departments . Any bike costing more than about 8 grand is over priced , the price the likes of BMW are charging for these is taking the pi55. They should produce models with just standard instruments & controls ,minus all that tech tat ,that owners can get their spanner’s into , like the proper old school GS ‘s . I reckon a lot of those TH-camrs ride BMWs because they are influenced by image & don’t want to be left out of the clique. From time to time they will revue budget Chinese bikes ,but it’s very rare one of them will actually buy or own one ,even then it’s only for a partner while on L plates . The conversation soon moves on to BMW ,Triumph ,Ducati or Harley all about image to enter the TH-cam ruling clique . What ever divorce present you choose , my advice is to stay grounded & keep on doing your own thing . 👍
Thank you. I’m revisiting the Benelli TRK 702 this week so hopefully that will help get this bike out of my system. But to be honest this BMW is amazing. Just a very big decision to spend such a large amount of money. Especially when I could buy two TRK 702’s and a royal Enfield Hunter and it still be cheaper than the GS. 😳
@@GillyBikes If you must own a GS I would leave it a couple of years ,& let the mugs with more money than sense cop for any teething issues & finish the factory’s job of longer term test riding to iron out any issues . Then buy a new one or better still a used model that’s in good nick that’s full of extras you would fit yourself ,that’s had any issues well sorted & save some bunce .
If the world had followed these views, or rather your advice, we might still be hanging from trees and using flintlocks today. You wouldn't be sitting in an internet discussion :-). For example, the view that anything over 8K is overpriced and that motorcycles should only be made with something basic (I'd like to know your definition of what "basic equipment" is in today's context of travel, traffic and road transport). Motorcycles are about emotion, fun, determination. Should sales be governed by your rigid ideas of "just the basics"? You may have a reasonable basis of reasoning, but the way you wrote it makes it look silly. I can almost feel the envy in this post. Presumably you don't even buy anything in a shop with regard to how it's packaged, equipped, recommended? My fifty cents only. Good luck and have many pleasant days.
@@hewlett62 You’re making ridiculous assumptions ,I am not saying everything that’s new ,is bad ,nor is it always for the good ,nor is anyone obliged to take any advise I might offer . To even suggest I may be envious ,is ludicrous , especially when I am in a position to walk into any high end motorcycle dealer ,& order their top of the range models with extras ,& pay cash. When I say basic ,I mean good quality serviceable standard motorcycle controls ,not a load of idiot tech to make up for poor motorcycling & navigation skills . Or the over use of unnecessary tech for the sake of pandering to nerds ,who consider motorcycles to be toys ,rather than what they really are ,which is two wheeled transport. If you might want & need all this tech & be happy to pay extortionate bunce in order to control your bikes & also navigate where your going ,that’s up to you . Some of use don’t require it or need it as we ,learnt to ride ,control & find our way around without it . All I am saying ,is all motorcycle companies ,should produce standard versions in their range ,with out all that slipper ,blipper quick shifter ,ride modes ,blue tooth ,shizzle or any other gubbins I don’t require . Just because I have a few bob to spend ,doesn’t mean I want to waste it on tat I don’t require . A fool & his money is soon parted .
Never liked the 1300 looks, reminds me too much of the Honda 750 NCX. Preferred the 1250GS. I don't like the integrated light system (brakes/indicator) and no backlit switchgear. Cheaper to buy a used fully specked 1250 and save around 5k. I had my 1250 for three years and loved it for touring. I've now got the RS1250.
It might be a Great upgrade from the previous model, but its so, So, S-O UGLY. Let's be honest guys more than the half of a motorbike buying choice is the looks ❤
I love the looks, of the 1300. I purchased this bike and it's my first BMW. I finally found a Motorrad bike I really love, both looks and the performance.
When I was in the market for a new bike last year, I also kept running into the 40 percent more than sticker by the time you get it set up they way you want. A lot of manufacturers do this. Then the Norden 901 Expedition came out. The Expedition was $1,200 (US) more than the standard Norden 901, but it comes with everything., and I mean everything a rider typically adds on afterwards or upgrades at purchase. It comes with electronic cruise control, speed shifter, Norden's best suspension package, WP Explor and heated seats and grips, center and side stand, one of the best standard skid plates out there, rear rack, side bags, ungraded windshield and fairing (and paint scheme), full electronics ride package with all options unlocked, Bluetooth connectivity with turn-by-turn directions. I'm told that all of this would cost upwards of $4,000 (US), and I'd be swinging the wrench and wire strippers on a lot of it. I now have 1,200 miles on my 901 Expedition and pinch myself after every ride.
Those are the cast base wheels, no extra for them. You are confusing them with the forged wheel option which is extra.
Thanks for the correction. 👍
I have the forged wheels, they are gorgeous!
They do look nice to be fair.
Driving all over the world for three on my Yamaha XT 600 I met a lot of bmw drivers but sadly all of them had problems from broken frames, gearbox ( a part of the frame) broke from the framework, leaking seals inside the shaft drive and they were all complaining about this problems should not happen to an expensive bike like this. We called them BM trouble yous at that time.
Oh wow that’s not good. Very good when they are working though 😂
A "lot" having problems? Doubt that based on my many years of riding BMW's...
Shockingly I have a few mates that have said they wouldn’t buy another BMW because of the issues they had. But for every bad experience I’m sure there are many more good experiences
264'000 km on a LC. No serious problems that I coldn’t solve myself. Off course, if you throw the bike down from the second floor, you probably end up with a broken frame 😜.
Great video. You should get lower crash bars with enduro pack and a bash plate. Love the Triple black and the blue and white. I think spoke wheels for me.
It’s far too easy to get carried away with the extras. So much on offer. Can you lend me £21000 that I will never pay back?
Went for the Tramuntana edition and ticked every single option with the exception of the sports suspension...........cost a kings ransom but an absolutely brilliant bike.
A seriously good bike. Congrats. 🥂
Nice review..M planning my first gs and ur review cleared all those other videos out there..thanks🙏
Your very welcome 👍
Jeeze , I’m thinking of. Niken ? I lost a leg , in a bike crash, and looking for something , different , & handles well: ?
The Niken is a great bike. I love mine, but I do tend to change bikes every year or so and the Niken did 6000 miles last year. So it might be time for a change.
@@GillyBikes ahh t v m for the info , I was the same Change every 6 months sometimes ,. Just for interest . Used to be zx 10”s Gsxr”s etc , now Aprilia v4 tuono factory, 1290 ktm etc ,. Niken , what are they like in traffic ?,. & do they grip at front end , like the 44 teeth etc say ?.
Yes the front end sticks to the floor. So much confidence on the bends because of that. Makes it loads of fun. It’s a little bit wider than most but I have no problem filtering with it.
This is a jack of all trades bike and a premium one. If you go for it, you’re up for a very good choice. It’s not cheap but you’re getting a lot of bike for your money. I know that, and you know that. Make it happen. It will bring you a lot of joy!
I need some joy in my life so I may well treat myself.
@@GillyBikesexactly !👌🏻
Have you ever had or have you ridden the Triumph 1200 XE?
I’m getting interested in that bike. Do you have an opinion about it? Thanks👍🏻
I tried the tiger 1200 when it first arrived and I was really impressed with it. I thought it was better than the 1250 GS. It was more fun. But the R1300 is better. So I would say it sits nicely in the middle of both bikes. At this very high standard of bike though you would be happy with any of them 😎
I may have induced you in error. The BMW GS 1300 is an overall, every use bike and I decided to trade my GSA for it, considering the development of the new bike and because I concluded that the 30 L gas tank wasn’t really needed as I even on longer rides, I enjoy to stop between every 200/ 250 kms of riding. The 19 L gas tank of the GS 1300 is more than enough.
I have another BMW. A R nine T Scrambler (2022 model and still is a new bike with 7000 kms on the odometer) but besides the roadster retro modern style of it, which I like , torquy and powerful enough, I feel a little cramped as it is a short structure of a bike as a whole it’s Beefy, nice massive, weights more or less 230 kgs, but is not big in length and the height from the seat to the ground it’s 820 mm, I flat foot it perfectly. So, I thought it could be an idea to trade it for a new Triumph Bonneville Scrambler 1200 XE and not for a Tiger. My question was concerning this Bonneville. If you have experience and personal knowledge about it. That’s what I was seeking in terms of opinion. Thanks man and sorry for misguiding in my prior comment 👍🏻
Thanks for the video - new sub.
Have you tried the Ducati Multistrada V4S?
Cheers
Thank you. Yes I’ve tried the Ducati. Thats like a sports bike / adventure bike. A great bike. I will hopefully get down to Ducati soon to see what else they have.
choose the high comfort seat.
28K For my Trophy version! Worth every penny I paid! Unbelievable bike. 👍
Wow you must have gone for every single extra. I do agree though. Amazing bikes.
@@GillyBikes yep I got every option except the off-road suspension as I got the adaptive ride height instead!
@LifeOnTheSkids nicely done 😍
Good advertisement "annoyed, frusturated..." you managed to attract GS haters 😅
Mostly I agree with you. I have been riding my 3rd GS (1250 adv). I know by heart the gs experience. But i have not tested the 1300 yet. Will see how it feels. Cheers and ride safe.
It’s a competitive market this TH-cam business. I had to reel them in some how 😂
Saw a lad today commuting home on a black one in Manchester. Bike was dirty. Looked like a knacker. Wouldn't have looked at it twice if I didn't already know he was riding the new GS.
If it’s dirty at least it’s being used as intended. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a dirty one 😂
@@GillyBikes I can't argue with you there
Now we’re talking. Thats a proper bike. 2 up touring at its best. I want a blue and white one. The rally 1250 was my dream bike 😍
These are loads better.
Hi nice bike but if you go off road it joins the list off large adventure bikes that are great touring motorcycles but too heavey for real off road unless you are very good which you may be most are not so there. Are some very good sport touring that do just as good job
Road touring but cost way less
That’s my exact dilemma. So many other bikes out there that are much cheaper. I already have my Voge rally so that’s what I use for my off road rides. It would be purely for touring.
@GillyBikes hi yep hard decision sports tourer or GS many tour on both so its down to how they make you feel that is of cause if 20k is the ball park financially your in choice is large good hunting. Ride safe
👍
Go try a V4 Rally...might need the low seat though....the GS1300 does have the self lowering chassis though 🤔.. and the dangerous rear lights set up...and all the faults that are surfacing..
Yes, I’ve seen a few mention the faults that are popping up. I’ve decided not to get one yet. It’s far too much money and a risk. I like to tour and use my bikes a lot. With it being a brand new model and having faults pop up puts me off. I will let other people test them for a year or so and see what happens.
BMW does not charges extra for better brakes. Some have BMW and some others have Brembo branded depending on the model and year. GS costs a lot of money, but it has a very high resale value. Congrats.
The 1300 has two brake options. The upgraded breaks (easily noticable by the silver calipers) are extra.
@@mossy-tube that must be for the European models.
When I went through the options there was a “better breaks” option on there. I can’t remember which pack they came with but it was at an extra cost.
Those BMW brakes are manufactured by Brembo , if you look on the back of the callipers ,they will probably have a Brembo logo stamped on them .
I lost count of the number of times "extra cost" was mentioned.
That was my point. So manny extra things to pay for 👍
70 MPH “, & there’s a lot of wind noise ? Err , . Hello .
@markshirley7639 😂. And again. Not subscribing then 😂
It’s time to treat yourself 😁
In my opinion, there is no way that the 1300 looks better than my R1250GS Triple Black. I just doesn't have the same presence. Also I don't like that the blinkers are in the hand guards - exactly where they would be broken when you drop it. The Akrapovic pipe on mine is a single piece which I much prefer. I also prefer my wired wheels against the version you demonstrated. Sorry, not feeling it with this bike.
So funny that it's a divorce present! Same here LOL
You always have to buy yourself a divorce present 😂. The blinkers can be moved from the hand guards as part of the enduro pack. You pay more for bigger hand guards and they move the blinkers to the normal position. (Another extra) 😳
Greatings from Austria (the KTM country).
Great vid man. Liked and subscribed...
I absolutely understand what you mean. I hate this bike as f.... for exactly the same reason!
Have ordered mine (full blown Trophy), have to wait until june....
And I always have been a Honda, Yam, and KTM Guy!
I do not have a BMW car. (Everybody knows the M2 is the best car ;-()
What a shame.....
I hate BMW for this bike already, because it wil reside on every parking space all over the planet...
Damn BMW Damn!!!!!!!!!!
Brilliant. Thanks for the Sub. You feel my pain. I’m still fighting the urge to order one. But I would go for the trophy I really like the blue and white.
Oh dear.... But if you like it thats all that matters 😉
That’s true. ☺️
Nice bike
What I laugh at is BMW offer this extra and that extra and then charge you on top of those extras for fitting, doesnt seem to matter how much you spend with them, enough is never enough
You got ripped if you paid for the forged wheels, because those are not the forged wheels. Check with your dealer. Congrats regardless.
Yes I believe they are the standard wheels. My mistake ☺️
I have zero interest in those things, could get 3 Voge 525 for that money and something cheap to run around on lol
Actually with all the extras you could get 4 Voge DS525’s 😳. And you would have just as much fun 😎
@@GillyBikes an even better deal, and then you could always do 2-3 TRK 702 and a Benelli 500 lol
Yes. When you work it out like that it’s shocking.
Or even better the Voge 900 dsx or a CFmoto 800 mt
I’m looking forward to trying both of those
wait for 1400adv not the gs. and need to wait for the long term quality testing by real customer.
Yes I agree. I’ve decided not to rush into one. I’m going to wait and see what happens after people have owned them for a year or so.
@@GillyBikesno problem. enjoy when you get it .🎉
I've never ridden a bmw. I feel diminished as a human because of it. 😄 I'd have an rt or rs if I could afford one. The gs doesn't appeal to me at all... but as I said, I haven't ridden one, so...
I’ve always found the GS to be a bit dull and not very engaging but this bike is just like riding an enduro bike. Loads of fun and completely unexpected
@GillyBikes I'm sure I'll have a go on one eventually, but i might not even have considered it before you did this review (& used the word enduro). 🙂
Go and play on one. Thank me later 😉😎
How can they justify £1000 for rear luggage carrier that is obscene
It was something like £250 if you got it on the new build but £1000 if you have one now and want it fitted. So it makes sense to add it on the build.
Perhaps your video demonstrates the power of BMWs marketing strategy.....? By the end you are prepared to let your guard down and spend the extra Dosh. Perhaps you should reverse the strategy. Start by saying Yes I will spend £20,000. What can I buy for that .... MV Augusta, Aprilia, Ducati, HD, etc etc 😂
You actually nailed the pronunciation of Akrapovic.
I’ve pronounced it so many different ways I can’t keep up. I might have to watch this back to confirm.
Better off getting a second hand Tracer , or ktm Adventure, triumph tupey or whatever :
Jesus Christ , if you didn’t have any of the Extras , you’d have a 250 super dream 😴 🙄
It's completely and utterly ridiculous. A total liability when out of warranty, the cost of fixing anything on that will make it worth very little in year four, and beyond: by year eight it will be scrap because of the tech going wrong.
If you purchase on finance and change before the warranty runs out, it may work --- but will cost you an absolute fortune.
No wonder Royal Enfield with their back to basics ethos are doing so well.
It’s a very big financial decision to spend such an amount on a bike especially if it all goes wrong and you get nothing in return.
@@GillyBikes I may offer you £5000 for your 1300 GS in three years time.
It's one hell of a risk for me though to potentially be lumbered with thousands in dealer costs at £150/hour 🤔 (On second thoughts; £3500 is nearer the mark 👍)
😂. Thats a big loss.
I agree with you on the ridiculous amount of tech that will cause issues down the line. Unfortunately, it's not just BMW. KTM, Ducati are all doing it.
I'll keep my so far completely reliable Yam even though its 8 years old.
:)
This is the best bike ever driven. You talk bull man, just for attention, and you know that, sick of this scrap! Enjoy the beemer, the Balance, POWER, drivability, its just fantastisk:-)
🐂 , attention? Thanks for watching. 😂
Adventure style bikes like Jeeps or Landrovers utilitarian & not meant to be pretty . These modern BMW G S ‘s are the product of the BMW factory loosing the plot ,over the last 40 years ,& allowing computer gamer nerds ,run amok in their design departments . Any bike costing more than about 8 grand is over priced , the price the likes of BMW are charging for these is taking the pi55. They should produce models with just standard instruments & controls ,minus all that tech tat ,that owners can get their spanner’s into , like the proper old school GS ‘s . I reckon a lot of those TH-camrs ride BMWs because they are influenced by image & don’t want to be left out of the clique. From time to time they will revue budget Chinese bikes ,but it’s very rare one of them will actually buy or own one ,even then it’s only for a partner while on L plates . The conversation soon moves on to BMW ,Triumph ,Ducati or Harley all about image to enter the TH-cam ruling clique . What ever divorce present you choose , my advice is to stay grounded & keep on doing your own thing . 👍
Thank you. I’m revisiting the Benelli TRK 702 this week so hopefully that will help get this bike out of my system. But to be honest this BMW is amazing. Just a very big decision to spend such a large amount of money. Especially when I could buy two TRK 702’s and a royal Enfield Hunter and it still be cheaper than the GS. 😳
@@GillyBikes If you must own a GS I would leave it a couple of years ,& let the mugs with more money than sense cop for any teething issues & finish the factory’s job of longer term test riding to iron out any issues . Then buy a new one or better still a used model that’s in good nick that’s full of extras you would fit yourself ,that’s had any issues well sorted & save some bunce .
@maskedavenger2578 that’s not a bad idea. 👍
If the world had followed these views, or rather your advice, we might still be hanging from trees and using flintlocks today. You wouldn't be sitting in an internet discussion :-). For example, the view that anything over 8K is overpriced and that motorcycles should only be made with something basic (I'd like to know your definition of what "basic equipment" is in today's context of travel, traffic and road transport). Motorcycles are about emotion, fun, determination. Should sales be governed by your rigid ideas of "just the basics"? You may have a reasonable basis of reasoning, but the way you wrote it makes it look silly. I can almost feel the envy in this post. Presumably you don't even buy anything in a shop with regard to how it's packaged, equipped, recommended? My fifty cents only. Good luck and have many pleasant days.
@@hewlett62 You’re making ridiculous assumptions ,I am not saying everything that’s new ,is bad ,nor is it always for the good ,nor is anyone obliged to take any advise I might offer . To even suggest I may be envious ,is ludicrous , especially when I am in a position to walk into any high end motorcycle dealer ,& order their top of the range models with extras ,& pay cash. When I say basic ,I mean good quality serviceable standard motorcycle controls ,not a load of idiot tech to make up for poor motorcycling & navigation skills . Or the over use of unnecessary tech for the sake of pandering to nerds ,who consider motorcycles to be toys ,rather than what they really are ,which is two wheeled transport. If you might want & need all this tech & be happy to pay extortionate bunce in order to control your bikes & also navigate where your going ,that’s up to you . Some of use don’t require it or need it as we ,learnt to ride ,control & find our way around without it . All I am saying ,is all motorcycle companies ,should produce standard versions in their range ,with out all that slipper ,blipper quick shifter ,ride modes ,blue tooth ,shizzle or any other gubbins I don’t require . Just because I have a few bob to spend ,doesn’t mean I want to waste it on tat I don’t require . A fool & his money is soon parted .
Bit of a shame they still sound like a cememt mill
I think that’s down to my camera mic. In real life with the exhaust upgrade they sound pretty good. 👍
I wil buy a new r1250 gs adventure
Don’t blame you. Great bikes and the introduction of the r1300 should bring the price of the 1250 down. 👍
Get a ducati v4s
Now that’s very tempting. I might take a ride over to Ducati and see what they have. 👍
Never liked the 1300 looks, reminds me too much of the Honda 750 NCX. Preferred the 1250GS. I don't like the integrated light system (brakes/indicator) and no backlit switchgear. Cheaper to buy a used fully specked 1250 and save around 5k. I had my 1250 for three years and loved it for touring. I've now got the RS1250.
I would probably do the same. There are some good deals to be had on the 1250’s.
It might be a Great upgrade from the previous model, but its so, So, S-O UGLY. Let's be honest guys more than the half of a motorbike buying choice is the looks ❤
That’s very true. Most buy on looks and the looks on this are definitely dividing opinions.
I love the looks, of the 1300. I purchased this bike and it's my first BMW. I finally found a Motorrad bike I really love, both looks and the performance.
@josephSF I agree. The GS fans are calling its looks. But I think it’s their best looking GS.
Not the best build quality, this bike has had numerous issues. BMW
Buy More Worry. And why does that phone storage area have water in it ?
Well spotted. I only noticed it when I was editing. It’s a bit of a worry. Water getting into the usb port. 😳
£16K bargain !
Then sell it.
I would have to buy it first 😂
Expensive awfulness
They are not for everyone. I thought the same about the previous 1250 and 1200. 👍
Toooo many things are extras ! And not cheap typical bmw 😵💫