The Psychology of a Chess Cheater
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One of the cheaters games had an opponent who was also banned. 2 engines playing each other
That's incredibly sad lol
But there’s no cheating on Chesscom
I mean... If they both have engines is it really cheating one each other? Lol
It's incredible that people in 2023 still attempt to cheat.
And they both know the other one is also cheating during the match, lol.
Guys we all know Aman lost because after d3 his chessable course said to go d5 but he went Bc5 instead. You have to follow the courses man
fundamentals
I appreciate the irony of therapy advertised on this video.
Cheaters are cheaters. They don't respect other people or their time. They don't respect themselves. They think they win, but they're cheating themselves. They have no skill and know it. No one is fooled. No moral fibre. They should just go play with other cheaters. They can all play make belief together
Honestly, I'm surprised chess sites don't do a shadow ban type thing where they only pair cheaters together
@@SoDamnMetalthey do once their system detects that they are likely cheating
if you paired with +-1000 rated people you are shadow banned
easy to know
also, they ban public ips like there is no tomorrow
You can actually pinpoint when Aman's spidey-senses kick in.
Of course aman plays the psychological game against the engine
When will old man stockfish finally learn??
But what was the psychology??
Imo, some ppl just like the mere fact of knowing someone is suffering. Exactly, that's some level of psycho right there... People don't realize that this kind psychos always start with something "meaningless". They always justified by saying, "it is nothing", "it was joking", "I apologize blah blah blah..." But later becomes something really serious. And a problem for others.
In my experience, I've seen this behavior on any ages. Kids, adults, old and very old.
So, be aware of this kind of ppl in your surroundings.
I assumed he didn’t address the psychology. Literally 1% of videos on TH-cam actually discuss what’s in the title.
They feel like they are winning
It takes an extra kind of loser to cheat at chess. For what? Faux respect? Against strangers? 🤡
So lame🤣
People who never experience the positive emotions associated with achievement/success/winning in everyday life sometimes resort to other methods to feel those feelings they crave but aren't able to attain on their own.
If you could follow this person around for a day, you'd probably feel bad for them. In all likelihood their life objectively sucks.
It's a really strange phenomenon, for sure.
I think it’s bit similiar phenomena where people are so upset about losing that they accuse the enemy of cheating without any evidence.
@@aleksihiltunen7063 I'm only a 1200 and I still have the eye for a cheater. Most times I submit a claim I get an email back saying I got my rating points back. Out of 17,930 games 19 were banned for cheating. I'm assuming 200 or so didn't get caught
when he played bishop a7 he had already calculated queen f4 and bishop takes c6 in less than 1 second. obvious stuff
Yeah. And that is just the main line. There were other things to calculate. Very obvious and stupid cheater.
11:04 I'm used to hearing this
What series is this? Is it getting uploaded?
What is the music in the background?
7:29 The reason it works for white here is because there isn't a Bishop on c4 like there usually is. If the Bishop was on c4, then after Nxe5 d4, black takes on c4. So, that's why it's good for white here, since the Bishop isn't out yet.
Bxa7 was a beautiful combination though
for real, the only way to validate Bxa7 was to bring the knight towards black's king and not to recapture with the queen but to centralize your queen and threaten a royal fork. Absolutely gorgeous game, nobody would be able to play like this versus Aman
What's the name of this opening? Beautiful game by Stockfish
Props to Aman for not calling out the player right away. Of course he was suspicious but he didn't go witch hunt right away like other would have.
Fuck cheaters though.
Bc5 is inaccurate in that position apparently, it gives an advantage of +0,6 to white according to prayingforangels 16 NNUE
Tbh that was a sick game
I didn't think cheaters had brains
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why are people accepting sponsors from betterhelp?
Poojas cousin
You’ll need better help after that game…
the opening is like 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Bc5 4.Nxe5 Nxe5 5.d4 Bd6 6.dxe5 Bxe5 and f4. i play this line my self, my score is very high
Cheaters content always works 😂❤
Why is bishop a7 such an engine move or such a strange move?
Traps the bishop
i still don't get why bf2+ is bad. You regain the lost pawn and they lose castling rights, in exchange for loss of bishop pair and a weaker center
Its well known that Bxf7 in the usual version and likewise Bxf2 in this case isnt as good as keeping the bishop. in both cases you get the pawn back. the only possible advantage of Bxf2+ is the loss of castling rights but the bishop pair and centre is worth more. the king just manually castles usually
If you find yourself with some time I would suggest going through the variations where Bxf2/Bxf7 happens. I believe it's worth learning because you're right, it's actually not straightforward how to play on from those positions with your king on the F file.
Essentially taking the f pawn generally results in getting absolutely steamrolled in the centre and it's worth knowing how to handle your king's position if you find yourself with this tactic on the board.
Another big point is that you're leaving your opponent with two center pawns and removing their f pawn instead of the d pawn. Losing castling rights is never a problem in these lines, and you'll often find it's your opponent making use of the semi-open f file, not you, while enjoying their rock solid center. On top of losing the bishop pair, not a good path to go down.
white gets a big center and the bishop pair, engine says +1
I've gotten this line more commonly through 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+, there white has even a larger center but the same logic applies, my results are very good resulting from that position.
Name of the song?
The irony of the cheater “winning” is that Aman actually analyzes the game and learns from the experience
wins the chess game, but doesn't Win. He either played the game of his life versus Aman or he was simply following engine moves. Turns out he was following engine guidance.. Lame.
why is aman's account name written in Albanian?? is there a specific reason to it?
Haha for real bro, edhe un e vura re
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Those cheaters are ruining chess...
good
Where’s NKVB?
He was playing with an authorised speedrun account.
Qf4 was a bad move long castle and black is better
Cheating just ruined online chess for the players who play for the genuine love of chess. They either lose against cheaters or get falsely accused for cheating . I'm not saying this always happens
Stop taking it out on the keyboard, what’s it done to you, that beautiful keyboard 😢?
Why not just play Bb4+ after the pawn fork?
cuz c3 .. then you'd still have 2 pieces hanging and if you go bd6 after, you've only helped white develop
White plays c3 and they have a bigger advantage.
@@bartholomewtheiiijr.386makes sense, thanks. I'm a chess newbie
I like Centaur play
How the fuck can a cheater play so fast ? Doesn't to have to run his move into an engine ?
Not a cheater...they are just 'bogger-brained' than any GM out there 😆
I have 6 brilliancies in 611 games and I'm still 1322 but happy unlike these trash cheaters😊
Not the better help sponsorship :(((
Aged like milk 😳
@@Tocinos LOL
refunds lmao
Betterhelp doesnt help
bro its a sponsor. It's just so aman can go out to eat and buy a nice house. It really ain't that deep
What is that username?? In Albanian it is roughly translated as "greetings".
Bf3 for the boys!
lol @ 11:02
cheater vs cheater
Must be a lot less frustrating being a chess cheater no blunders or misses, you know that you played "the best possible game you could've played"
Good luck with the rating boost man lol
Turn 3 GM, black. Go... oh, ok, a time sink I see, ready for not playing this line, ok, 1 tempo down still good for white, IDK, gimmi 45 sec I'll get back to you.
Move down, scales, please, don't say that, omg, scales, come on. Hicki.
Excuse my male emotional behind, ... because, here, I had to take 1:15 to come up with the psychological permission to say: Annoying. I didn't wanna!!!!! oooffff, life. Game, come on!
On something like 1:15 seconds up, and 40 to spare, just time dude, something you need to "get well soon" warrior, get Russianed, pff.
@@BumWatcher he was following engine moves not playing chess. time didn't matter
@@snared_ But.. were they f engine tho? Cause GOD forbid some pre engine type went through the line and made it play "legal"... vs human mind's acceptance rate and rating.
Wow, I didn't even think it was possible to cheat and blitz out moves that fast, don't you have to manually plug the moves into an engine?
Can be automated probably
You don't
It has been easy to cheat in bullet for years and years
no I've told people about this for years. There are yt vids where people beat stockfish 8 in 1/4+0 on lichess. It moves the mouse for you.
I've also personally gotten rating refunds in 1/4+0 a day after a game where I got brutally brutally mated and taken out to lunch in 7 seconds.
7:56 Bxf2 was the best move. A fish confirmed it for me but it was kind of obvious ngl.
Hi Aman ,whats up with that username "Tungjatjeta "? That means Hi in my language . Do you guys hang out with Albanians
Bishop takes A7 is pretty logical honestly. He had a battery set up with his queen supporting the bishop. It's basically trading a bishop for 3 pawns. You make it seem illogical for a human to see that.
yes its logical, BUT its finding the idea of trying to get that setup of the rook and queen barelling down the d6 pawn is what makes it suspicious, especially with limited time. That position at 4:08 is so obscure from the position at 3:48 and white played it so fast and cold blooded that its either the worlds godliest chess player playing or its a supercomputer
@@winterbreed7001 I thought the computer takes at least 4-10 seconds per move. But I see your point. I always assume people stew cheating against me and I'm only a lowly 1700 player.
400 elo comment, the 3 pawns wasn't the reason it was good, especially not in the middle game, no the reason it was bad, was because of some dank tactic where the lightsquare bishop pins the queen, and unpinning runs into a fork, otherwise trading your bishop for 3 pawns is just plain losing.
Why play Bc5? Walks straight into the trap
I enjoy cheating in chess (online only)
lmao Bishop check is the first move I saw, and its the top engine move. Seems like a silly opening trick you got caught up in lol.
What's the use in seeing the top engine move when you can't see the ideas behind it? For a human, Bxf2 leads to a worst position
Help me understand how you know he was cheating? the engine says he was around 86% accurate, and had a few misses. I'm starting to see a lot of these 'cheater' videos and starting to call BS.
What's your rating?
If it isn't obvious to you from the video, no amount of explaining will help you understand 🤡
Hmm.. interesting take @@sam2725 - thanks for the insight. I'll give you a pass if you're 12 or younger but unfortunately juvenile ad hominem responses don't quite cut it when trying to point out the 'obvious'. Maybe next time try to point it out instead of ironically responding like a clown.
@@sam2725 did you not see how white played the literal only extreme fringe combination to validate Bxa7, a move which rarely if ever works, played instantly? It's obvious in hindsight that the opponent isn't playing chess rather just following engine lines with their d*ck in the other hand.
accuracy is not everything. Sometimes weak chess engines cannot find the full picture at just 1 second per move. You need to look at the insanely deep ideas (Bxa7, f5, Bb5, Qf4, Nd5, all just for the Bxc6 fork idea is near impossible to see; playing it in a pace of 2 seconds/move pretty much seals the deal). Furthermore there's risks that no human would ever take (e.g. Kd2 on move 29 would never be played by a human, as well as Bf3 in the endgame).
If that isn't enough, you can look at their account and see they've lost several games against a 500, playing horribly. Then suddenly they become the strength of a 2800+, always playing at 2 seconds/move.
remember that normal therapy is oriented towards women. try to find a dude if you're a dude.
Mr. Hillcrest just told me the same thing
@@Darlene312 I found that just reading about emotional intelligence and watching the school of life on YT worked for me. also putting all what I learned into practice everyday. took awhile but I can have a normal relationship now.
bro its a sponsor. It's just so aman can go out to eat and buy a nice house. It really ain't that deep
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