^ especially considering trying long distance is realistic!? Sadly so is forgiving someone that cheated, but the choice Disney made is so damaging 😞 setting such a horrible example for people (usually impressionable people!?) watching
For me, cheating is the ultimate deal breaker. No amount of development would be able to repair that relationship. You can change and develop for the next girl.
I've never even watched this show but based on all the things I've found out about them, I completely agree. Can't stand or fathom how there are some people who defend this Spencer guy just because he ''changed'' lmao yes, everyone makes mistakes and you can learn and become a better person from them but there are some things you can not come back from and cheating is one of them idc what anyone else says - disney is trash for making these two endgame!
Seriously, I honestly wish there would be a show or movie that would just have a couple when they realize that they can’t be together because they fallen in love for someone else, if the other one feels too delusional, with the whole belief of, “I will always love you.”, the latter tells them, “Love someone else.”, just as a way to tell them that it’s over. There would be more dignity in that.
even as a TEN YEAR OLD i was disgusted with how Spencer was trying to pressure Teddy into choosing him, meanwhile Beau was so understanding and just wanted Teddy to be happy
@@baileyostrom2972 , sucks that the creators did Beau dirty by having him move away and he doesn't return after. Especially when you realize that Luke Benward was really giving it his all in playing the character, FOR ONLY SIX EPISODES, but I thought his character was in more than that.
@@osmanyousif7849I know, I wish that Beau and Teddy would’ve ended up together, and it was VERY disappointing that they wrote him out. But I heard the biggest reason why they made her take Spencer back was because Shane Harper and Bridget Mendler were actually dating in real life.
@@baileyostrom2972 , it also makes Teddy a bit of a hypocrite as she claims she couldn’t make a relationship between her and Spencer work due to him being far away, but then does the same exact thing to Beau. And yet the creators still decided to make her and Spencer be together instead of her and Beau. Seriously, I would’ve preferred if she stuck with Beau to the end even when he did moved away, maybe get a glimpse of what his home life is like and they can compare each other on how well either of them have it.
Geez, why is it that the best characters who the Duncan siblings start to date have the shortest time on the show, but the ones with the longest are THE WORST? PJ+Skyler and Teddy+Beau really were the best relationships.
That might just be because neither of them are viewpoint characters so if they made up separately from the core family it wouldn't be depicted on the show.
I'll always maintain that Beau was the better choice for Teddy, and I'm still salty that they made her choose Spencer, who literally cheated on her, over him.
Hey Trina! I've just seen the show in it's entirety this year and from the moment Beau showed up he seemed like a better choice for Teddy than Spencer was. I don't like how he manipulated that first date but he's the better of the two choices. I kinda liked Victor but think he and Teddy are best as friends
@@rahbeeuh Great to see you again, Rabia! Yes, Beau was the better choice, and he deserved better than to be unceremoniously dumped in favour of Spencer, who broke Teddy's heart.
@@trinaqlikewise! I completely agree. However, I did enjoy Bob's reaction to Beau leaving lol. Beau definitely deserved better than to be written off so quickly as if he didn't matter. If he didn't why introduce him in the first place?
Spencer always went for the kiss every chance he got, which kind of rubbed me the wrong way because it has been referenced as a way to get her to “shut up” and it just felt like kissing was a replacement for emotional intimacy. Beau kisses Teddy on the cheek first. And he told the truth about his lie about having made up his excuse to ask her out. Spencer always had to be forced to tell the truth (because he was caught lying).
Especially since their first kiss was "shut up/calm down." I have nothing against this type of kiss, but as first kiss? Big red flag. He didn't even give Teddy a chance to react, to push him away. She was talking and suddenly she was kissed. As if it wasn't their kiss number 1000, that you can accept consent to such a situation. He literally gave her no chance to react...
@@aleksandrakeska2290 also, like the original comment stated, a majority of tjeir kisses were initiated by spencer as a way to get her to shut up. bc i totally think this type of kiss could be cute, like they're already in a relationship and one partner is embarrassed rambling like the "that's hot. oh i didn't mean you're hot i mean it's hot outside. not that you're not hot but-" (im not great at writing but this is basically how ive seen it done lolol). Or if they're not dating, it could be a cute first kiss when consensual, like saying "shut up and kiss me" bc it interrupts the person and let's them go in for the kiss. but yeah, when a majority of the kisses are meant to shut someone up to avoid conversation it's a big red flag
Beau was an honest man in every sense of the word. He worked hard for what he had and cared very deeply about everyone in his life. He was a GOOD PERSON.
Don't you just love it when Disney gives the girl a healthy love interest after a bad relationship only to send them right back to their red flag? 😆 Yeah, me neither 😗
I never liked Disney ships because they were just backdrops for me or they just felt flat. Now as an adult, I never understood how the executives approved Mason and Alex, Maddie and Diggie, and Teddy and Spencer. Thank goodness those who grew up with these series just hate them now.
@@lindymoyo9118that was literally the worst decision she could’ve made I mean she didn’t even have to choose (although she should’ve chosen josh) she could’ve just stayed single!! And liv+Holden was my favorite ship 😢
The saddest part is that this could’ve been a great lesson for teens who’s partner cheated on them. As this is the only example of this I can think of in Disney Channel. But Spencer did nothing to prove himself as trustworthy to Teddy. The main reason he got her back is because he wouldn’t leave her alone. What’s the lesson there? If you cheat on your partner… stalk them??? Yikes big yikes…
Hannah Montana actually did the lesson right 'cause Miley broke up with Jake after he cheated on her, girl flat out beat him up, bro was never seen again, and she got with Jesse instead-
Disney Channel did a much better job with the cheating thing in Hannah Montana. Once Jake cheated on Miley/Hannah she dumped him and the show ended with her being with Jesse instead.
not to mention teaching the ones who got cheated on that even tho they were hurt and even if they move on afterwards you should give the cheater another chance like ugh
i HATED that spencer would just conveniently be EVERYWHERE. the skii trip, battle of the bands, super adventure land, the "abercrombie" store, etc etc. just shoving him in our faces (and Teddy's). i remember being so pissed off all throughout season 2 😭
Same! And he was always so passive-aggressive with her!! His character was so awful. I swear whenever teddy was happy he would always something like “okay let’s not do that” and then he would give her a fake smile, like GIRL your man is literally bullying you and acting like he’s better. Idk why Disney kept shoving this man onto Teddy not only because he was a manipulative cheater; he was just genuinely a terrible boyfriend. I really don’t know what Teddy saw in him😂 I wish the writers didn’t salvage his character. Teddy deserved a better man.
Also it’s sad that I know ppl IRL just like Teddy. Those girls/boys always feel like they did something wrong and try to give their all to save the relationship but it usually doesn’t change. Their partner remains cheating on them and they feel like a fool. And on Teddy’s case, Spencer did “change”(sorta, he was still terrible) he didn’t cheat on her again after they got back together. But there is still that fleeting thought when ppl get back with cheaters “will they cheat on me again?” Or “did I make the wrong choice?” The relationship is already broken. It’s just really sad that the victims of a cheating relationship have to deal with the constant dread. I know how it feels to be cheated on, not a pleasant feeling😂. All right I’m done with my crazy rant about about a tv show but srsly, Disney. Why do you glorify cheaters???😒🫠🫠
@@oliviachicken9775 this is so true!!! rewatching this show as an adult whose now been through many toxic relationships, i can really see through spencer now 😭😭 i have no idea why they made teddy get back with him all those times, like girl he DEFINITELY gonna cheat on you again 💀
I know 😂 They were really trying to force this relationship in every possible way. Spencer going to the ski resort is really creepy to me looking at it
@@seukos_k We can't say "definitely". People can change. Spencer is a fictional character and the implication his creators seem to imply is that he had changed from that.
One thing I am glad about though is that Disney didn’t use the trope of “girls that were dating a cheater hate each other instead of hating the cheater” bc that’s fairly common and doesn’t make any sense to me. I’m glad they made Teddy and Skyler friends and had them take out their anger on the person who deserves it.
Disney LA kinda use that trope in Soy Luna. Matteo cheated on Ambar with Luna (nothing serious ever happened just because Luna always rejected him and reminded him that he had a girlfriend). It was Luna who was blamed by Ambar for the growing romance. A guy who was literally constantly flirting with another girl, asking her out, chasing after her was never held accountable. It was always and only Luna who had problems because Matteo falling in love with her and being with Ambar at the same time...
It's wild to me also how Teddy ignores how completely disrespectful to Skylar it is for Spencer to keep calling his relationship to her a huge mistake. I feel like I wouldn't be able to get past the fact that we're now in a position where we have to completely trash and disregard the other girl's very real feelings in order to make it work for us.
Especially when Teddy and Skylar ended up becoming friends or atleast friends-ajcent. To the point Skylar becoming a part of her and Ivys friend group and then later starts dating Teddy's brother PJ. Like, the fact that Teddy got to know Skylar as a person and as a friend, then got back together with the guy that cheated on them both it feels wrong. Then said guys spends his time trying to get back together with you by bad mouthing and saying his rrlation with Skylar was nothing, when he started dating Skylar first before he started dating Teddy as well. It just make the situation so much worse. I always thought, wait Skylar is here at Teddy's house (at the time when he goes to her house to try and get back together with her), its it possible that he first went to Skylar house to try and get back together with her first them but, because she didn't answer he went to Teddy house. Or what is when Teddy turned him down, would he then go and try going to Skylar house to do the same thing. Like would have been on my mind that whole time.
YEAH I thought the same thing when Caitlin showed the clip of Spencer's apology scene. Like the episode makes it very clear that Skylar is 1) not a bad person and 2) just as much of a victim in this situation as Teddy. If Skylar had seduced Spencer knowing he was taken that would've been one thing, but she had a genuine relationship with him and was completely in the dark about Teddy. Spencer shading her after all he put her through is so goddamn douchey of him, and it sucks that they didn't even acknowledge it when the episode WAS about Skylar and Teddy forming a friendship and relating to each other after the cheating.
100%, just like how Dove Cameron and Ryan McCartan were also dating in real life, resulting in Maddie taking Diggie back, even though Josh was so much better.
That's what frustrates me. Work and personal lives can and often should be separate. Disney didn't even want them kissing which has nothing to do with anything in particular but I thought I'd mention that. Hugging is fine but after a certain point it just seems odd in relationships.
@@rahbeeuh I completely agree! I remember back in the day some of producers of Austin & Ally wouldn't let Ross as Austin and Laura as Ally kiss for some reason.
If this was a more adult show, things would've been a lot worse, I can only imagine what ways he would've gone about taking advantage of her if this Had been on another network, maybe even going so far as to get her pregnant in order to trap her, he did a lot of questionable things but luckily he wasn't that bad.
I think my favorite episodes are the ones where she and Skyler are united in what a douchenozzle Spencer is. Also ironic that even for how dumb Skyler is, she ended up handling things a lot better by moving on and being totally over Spencer once she started dating PJ (for some reason I also liked them as a couple)
@@bigbearkat2010 Oh I thought Skyler and PJ were perfect for each other! I was devastated when Skyler and PJ broke up in late season two because they were so cute together. Thankfully, they got back together in season four.
36:46 why did Spencer remembering the exact time they spent broken up give me the ick. like he clearly didn’t keep track of them being back together ‘cause he didn’t know what Teddy meant by 10 months, and he seems so blasé now that he “has” Teddy. It’s giving “obsessive until he gets what he wants and then low effort once he does”💀
Agreed! Also I think Teddy had every right to be upset about Spencer not remembering how they first met. Me and my SO remember after 4 years, my parents remember after 30+ years, it's a big thing! Idk it's weird to me how many shitty things Spencer did that were framed as "not that bad"
I remember when I met my boyfriend, his exact first words said specifically to me, the reason I started hating him, when I stopped hating him and we became friends, the moment I confronted him about rumours of a crush (and he evaded the question), and later when he properly confessed. I remember our first kiss, my first Valentine's gift to him, and the first time we tried making out. I guess I hadn't really thought about how much you can remember when you're really in love
I find it *super* ironic that Spencer demands to know if they're friends or not after their first break up, when after their second one, he admits that it would just be _too hurtful_ to stay friends. Like, seriously?! Double standards...
old Disney Channel had a really shitty history of breaking up amazing couples because the other unhealthier couple's actors are dating irl and it was so stupid, *cough* Mosh
@@emilysullivan3875 truuuu but honestly for Hannah Montana i don't think Miley was dating the actor who played Jake irl, but i Disney still had that stupid "bUt wE hAvE hiSToRy tOgeTheR" thing and so having the characters choose their shitty ex-boyfriend over the new guy that is so much better for them than their ex
@@emilysullivan3875 mhm mhm it's like, the relationship is in the past for a reason??? do you not remember???? really, give yourself like 5 seconds to think about how the relationship transpired and whether or not the things that caused the break up are still applicable after time has passed. yes? then *why do you want to get back together with them* ?!?!
Interestingly enough, Mosh is actually a real life couple too (sort of). The actor who played Josh ended up with the Maddie body double in real life, and they got married recently
What bothers me the most is that Teddy and Spencer never had a conversation where he actually explained why he cheated on her. Like, it was so out the blue
Spencer is a horrible person and Teddy was dumb for giving him a second chance. If someone cheats on you, break up imediately! Don't even try to be friends with someone like that because they'll just manipulate you which is what Spencer did.
@@worm1533that's not really victim blaming, that's calling someone out on making a terrible decision that was OBVIOUSLY a terrible decision before they made it💀
Beau was so good, he was exactly what Teddy needed, not a two timing pig. Really, what kind of message is Disney sending by having their leading ladies be with dudes who are not worth it?
Also, Teddie had been doing a video diary for Charlie everytime right?? So I could imagine what would be Teddie's video diary advice she would give to Charlie after she got back with Spencer... Also, Future Charlie would have been confuse as hell when she watch all the video diaries her older sister made about dating guys
nah I feel like spencer taking the job of the frog, KNOWING it involves kissing teddy, KNOWING teddy is uncomfortable. Is so selfish and crosses so many boundries?? like BRO
Also, that episode also has a TRASH ending because of Spencer... The premise of that episode is about Teddie having unrecognize feelings for Emmett as she dreams of him doing the kiss scene and actually enjoying it... And then when she tried to reconfirm her feelings for Emmett by trying to practice kissing, Emmett CHICKENED OUT which is quite OOC for him since he definitely dreams about being with her as he has a crush on her since childhood. And then he quits his job as the Frog and SPENCER gets the job instead like what kind of ending of an episode was that
I mean, what happened on that dream?? Did the author of Good Luck Charlie just threw that plot in the trash afterwards?? Why did they even made that scene about Teddie dreaming about Emmett then if they just gonna forget about it the next episode and never bringing that up ever again like it didn't happen?? Also, the part where Emmett CHICKENED OUT when Teddie is about to kiss him and quit the job afterwards, that is so OOC of him doing that as well...
@@alexiscando2068 No. Teddy was trying to use Emmett for her own personal gain. She made it clear that she was hoping that the kiss wouldn't mean anything and she can go back to living her life after they kissed. I'm happy she ends up being the one rejected.
Even as a kid, I never understood why they got back together. Spencer was a lousy boyfriend, even before she caught him cheating, only doing like, the bare minimum. I was Team Beau from Day 1
Heck, Emmett could have been better than Spencer as well... I mean, they knew each other since childhood and he had a crush on Teddie since they were a child... There was also an episode where Emmett and Teddie worked together in the Amusement Park and Emmett was the one who helped Teddie get that job... There was also play that their characters was suppose to kiss so Teddie dreamed about Emmett and her kissing and she actually loves it in her dream... Then, she tried to reconfirmed it when she tried practice kissing on him but Emmett chickened out(Out of character for him because he always dreamed off that scenario to happen) and then quit the job afterwards... And guess what, SPENCER took the job instead like COMMON NOW... They set that whole episode of Teddie might have feelings for Emmett to just throwing that away for SPENCER at the end of that episode like what the hell
Yeah! Honestly it annoys me when that trope of “you are the person my partner cheated on me with, and even though you didn’t know and also got cheated on, I’m gonna not like you” is used
It would be so nice if Disney did a spinoff of Good Luck, Charlie, with the original actress all grown up and using the advice Teddy gave her - the video she watches would always be strangely relevant to what's happening to her. Maybe she could be in college, away from her family, and that's why she brought the videos with her. Or even boarding school.
I was thinking that too while watching They teased how Charlie would be grown up more than once so I'm surprised they never went for it. Especially considering how much Disney likes to capitalize on media that's already an established success these days
Thank you. when Spencer cheats on Teddy and then Teddy finds the girl he was cheating on her with, and then they connect, and they make a whole song together about how he sucks that is one of my favorite things in good luck Charlie, like they literally made a song calling him a pig. it was so direct. That was amazing to me. She should’ve stayed with beu and continue to have a happy, healthy relationship instead of going back to the pig.
I know, whenever I hear anything to do with that song or even just think back to watching it it comes straight back into my head. I know she decided not to post the video in the end, but looking back I think she actually should've. It would've been a nice thing for her to look back on in the future as a good reminder of why she shouldn't get back together with him. Then again this is a Disney Channel show so who knows. It would just be nice to see a better Depiction of relationships in my opinion, since we don't get a lot of those, which is a real problem and a real shame for young children and teenagers watching.
And that battle of the bands episode too. They get one over on him by not only beating him but Skyler moves on to PJ and because she's so much happier with him, she just seemed kind of over the Spencer drama in general.
@@bigbearkat2010 also, one that really made me hate Teddie getting back at Spencer is that even CHARLIE her younger sister who isn't even in elementary school by the time Spencer cheated on Teddie KNEW BETTER than her older sister was... Like common, her younger sister already saw the red flag and she wasn't even in elementary school... It would have been a better reminder for Teddie to not get back at him... I wish there are more episodes of that when Spencer is trying to get back at Teddie but Charlie visibly getting upset at him everytime he comes to their house
Beau was such a sweetheart, and the fact that Teddy gets with SPENCER of all people in the end is just the twist of the knife. He really is the one that got away.
I think the reason why Teddy always takes Spencer back is because she always hears how her parents are high school sweethearts, which comes off as the perfect love story that she wants. One thing I noticed about Spencer is how emotionally dependent he is on Teddy. Spencer constantly emotionally manipulates her as he tells her what to feel and is always expecting an answer on whether they can date again, which is disgusting, in my opinion. Also, I'm not too fond of Spencer's speech in the episode after he cheated on Teddy because we don't know if Spencer said the same thing to Skylar or any other girl Spencer might have seen while dating Teddy. If I were in this situation, I would've never talked to him again and told him to leave me alone because he was disrespectful. My parents taught me to have value in myself, and if someone broke my heart the way Spencer did, then they were not worth my time; something similar happened to my mother with her first boyfriend, which ended up with the other girl getting pregnant and tried to get her back but was firm and told him to back off. Especially with everyone in Teddy's life, don't make it a secret their dislike of him; while I understand it is Teddy's life, and she can make a choice, it would've been nice for Teddy to consider their advice before getting back together. I am still hoping one day, Disney will give us a healthy relationship; I mean, we can still have some drama for entertainment, but it would be nice to see a couple in a healthy relationship for the younger audience to see and understand what an excellent relationship looks like, but who knows in the end.
That seemed to be the whole appeal to their relationship actually. Like watching this video and looking back on how their relationship was handled, before the cheating...it was all based around the fact that they just liked each other. That's it. Their history isn't really delved into, they don't either have a lot in common or balance each other in personalities. They're put together just 'cause. It's wild how the show pushes so much for a ship that even without the cheating would've just been mid.
Also can we also just talk about the constant kissing? Like he does it to shut her up or to manipulate her into doing something. I especially hated that ski lift scene. Like they’re isolated together, she’s trapped in place and unable to leave if needed, and he kisses her. Idk man rubbed me the wrong way.
Spencer was legit toxic cuz he first cheats on teddy, then lies about it and then comes crawling back the next season. I also didn’t like how they handled Skylar. They start her off as teddy’s friend but they abandon that completely and make her PJ’s girlfriend like what?
I mean it is kind of hard to keep any friendship going the same way once they start dating a sibling plus Teddy doesn't really help that situation either by taking Spencer back.
@@Missmagazinebura Chuck and Trish are actually a problematic ship for a variety of reasons. Chuck literally sexually harassed Trish and treats her like a piece of property. I absolutely adore Austin and Ally, but Chuck and Trish are so uncomfortable for me to watch because of Chuck. He is way too aggressive and creepy with her. If Austin and Ally weren’t a Disney Channel sitcom, Chuck would have more than likely drugged her/gotten her drunk, waited until she was passed out, and then he would have straight up *RAPED* her. He’s disgusting.
Beau was a husband material for sure, and him with Teddy could be a real cute mirror to Teddy's parents, because their marriage is actually pretty good and is working long distance
pls do a ranking of disney parents as couples, it would be so funny!! (also like jerry giving up magic for theresa in wizards beats like 90% of the things main couples ever did)
And that time (Jake and miley) was a random one time thing while he was lonely without her. If they were going to make one of them be forgiven pick that one not the one where he was regularly cheating even though his girlfriend was right there. To be clear I'm not saying what jake did was right but that if I had to pick one that would end in hating the guys guts the way miley and he friends and family do and one that ended with her forgiving him and taking him back I wouldn't have picked the one where his two steady girlfriends at the same time became friends by bonding over how badly he hurt them.
why is no one talking about how Spencer cheated WITH THE SAME ACTRESS he cheats on Teddy with, but IRL, cause Bridget and Shane were dating IRL! For me, that makes it all 10x worse, if this wasn't all bad enough ..
Beau was such a green flag like- it's a good thing that your boyfriend gets along with your parents!! I dont get why that freaked her out and she went for the guy who BOTH her parents hate
I never watched Good Luck Charlie, but the audacity of Disney to have Spencer cheat on Teddy in the very first season and then have them be endgame... almost as bad as all the heinous wigs in the show, based on the clips you showed. 😅
Yeah, this ship was pretty much garbage but this whole video just reminded me how good the show actually was overall - I want to rewatch it now, honestly. The acting is there, and there are some pretty great emotional moments, as well as some downright hilarious moments. I remember being so sad every time I watched PJ and Skylar's breakup episode, like those two had so little screentime but their relationship was written so well that I cared about it to a great extent, and I was so happy about them getting back together later on. Also, PJ is the best boyfriend in the show, I said it - they really gave him a love so much more worth caring about (on his end) than Spencer was worth Teddy's care, and all his moments where he shows his love for Skylar are just so sweet. One thing I am actually upset about, and probably the only one lol, is Ivy and Raymond having their breakup offscreen, cause I honestly find them so cute, too. Oh, well.
41:53 This scene is my absolute favorite in the whole series. With as much fighting as the siblings do in the series (not knocking it, it’s realistic) it’s great when they show how much they care about one another. PJ is such a good big brother, and honestly, I can’t think of anyone else that could have had an impact on Teddy in that moment like he could.
I hate this storyline because they could've sent out such a good message to kids about learning to move on after someone hurts you and comforting your feeling on how that made you feel but instead they it feels like she forgets she got cheated on so quickly. They could've done so much to show what it was like for someone to heal after getting cheated on but it seems like Teddy didn't even really care. Like you don't have to forgive someone, you don't owe it to them, especially when they something like that to you!
I’m going to be honest. I’ve been hard pressed to believe that Disney cares to give us many healthy depictions of relationships at least the long term ones. The only one I can remember that made me think they were trying for healthy was Austin and Ally
While I do think they had a lot of chemistry, they had so much unnecessary conflict. They go on ONE date and decide that it’s too awkward and it’s better if they are just friends. But they’re both constantly being pretty toxic when it comes to the other being in a relationship. They should have tried a bit longer, or just talked about how being a couple doesn’t mean they have to suddenly change how they interact with each other. And, honestly, the last episode was also so bad. They just broke up because of conflicting schedules and proceeded to ghost each other for like two years because they couldn’t even talk about it properly. Yeah, not the healthiest relationship
@@michellecrocker2485 u mentioned Austin and Ally. I know that they’re probably one of the most popular ships but they do some flaws. First they realize their feelings at the wrong time and they constantly break up and get back together
Disney really needs to not put this kind of relationship drama in their shows because it’s really unhealthy for the kids watching. You shouldn’t be teaching them to take back a guy who cheats and lies.
The fact that the actors had a similar story irl to Teddy, Spencer and Skylar is WILD. Bridget and Samantha were best friends and I think Shane cheated on Bridget with Samantha and I think they might still be together. I went down a hole rabbit hole on Tik Tok about it!
Sorry to hear u are going through a crappy time 💕, parents separating is always hard no matter what age it’s the worst glad u have the support u need through this x
As a kid I never understood what was so special about Spencer. I didn't really get their relationship. Now that I have the whole picture, I see why it confused me so much 😂
The best thing about shows that end when they go to College, is that you can make your own head cannon that after that and conclude that after or during College they had a fallout, and then she went to Texas and it all ends there.
I was 11 years old when I first watched Good Luck Charlie. I remember being *_FURIOUS_* when he cheated on her and *_EVEN MORE_* angry when they got back together in the end. Also, the fact that Spencer expected Teddy to want to be his friend after their breakup, and was surprised and HURT that she implied to Ivy that she didn't...just ugh. Teddy was toxic too, though she wasn't as horrible. They weren't right for each other from the start.
When I saw the short part with Teddy and PJ, I thought it would be nice to see some ranking of the best siblings relationships/siblings moments from Disney Channel series. In general some movies on siblings would be nice 😊
What bothers me the most is that the actress that played Skylar got together with Shane Harper after he and Bridgit Mendler broke up… or maybe Shane cheated on Bridgit I don’t really know… the timeline is suspicious
@@justjoannaksomeone in the comments said that Shane cheated on Bridget with the actress that he cheated on her with in the show and they were bestfriends in real life
When teddy had to pick between boys Beau: I’ll be okay with whoever you pick Spencer: you must pick…what you didn’t pick me *throws tantrum* we’re not friends
Maybe in strange, but Ivy’s outfit in the ski resort episode ate down. She did not play w the animal print on animal print Actually even Teddy’s outfits are so cute
I never watched the Beau arc guess i was too grown up by that time but GOD he won me over with just a couple scenes. That kiss on the cheek after their first date?? Soooo sweet and dreamy
Last one: i am glad they made skylar and teddy friends. I respected the hell out of skylar when she poured the smoothie on him because this showed she did not know and she was not malicious. There are some mistresses who do know someone is in a relationship and will still date the person in hopes they will leave their partner. But she did not do this and i like how supportive they are with each other which subverts the trope of the two girls being mean and competitive towards each other. It is women supporting women.
Well in a case of art imitating life, Spencer and teddy were dating back then, and teddy and Skylar were close friends to the extent that the 3 of them went on trips together. And now after breaking up with Teddy IRL, Spencer is dating Skylar 💀
If someone cheated on me and showed up at my house a few days later I'm not going to hear them out I'll close the door in there face 🤷♀️ Edit: Spencer kinda seems like a stalker
I love the "Love Stories" series, so much! I would also love to see you expand on the couples. Like a video about the love triangle in iCarly. I know it would be a long and tough one, but I think that this case is similiar to the love triangle from "Girl Meets World", where many people fail to understand that both sides are bad. Would love to see that or any other interesting couples from Nick and/or Netflix
I’m sorry that all this is happening to you, Cait. Thank you for another great video! Your channel is definitely a comfort channel for me, and it has helped me through a lot of hard times. Praying for you and your family navigating this time!
I’m sorry to hear about your parents divorce, but am happy for you and Josh. And as a die hard Mevie shipper and fan, I love the Mal and Evie poster on the wall
I forgot how genuinely hilarious Bridget Mendler was on this show. She's giving Alex Russo vibes and I LOVE it. Her and Selena played such amazing comedic characters with perfect timing and I always wanted to be that funny. lol
The thing that upsets me the most is that they ended Teddy and Beau's storyline by making him act completely out of character. The whole thing about him being too much into bug stuff and too much like her dad is so forced especially because during their date he had said to her that he likes her dad but he really tells too much bug story. Also, when Beau was first introduced it was said that the reason he took the job was so that he could pay for his education, hinting at bigger goals he had, him going back home to work as an exterminator as if this was what he had always wanted is just completely out of the blue because it goes against everything that was established when we were first introduced to the character. They ruined Beau's character in order to give the idea that he "clearly" wasn't right for Teddy and that is - from a technical perspective - poor storytelling and bad writing
maybe it’s the fact that I work with infants and small children in my profession or honestly maybe it’s the wine talking right now, but at 9:10 about the whole charlie biting Spencer’s finger part, I don’t think it’s too much of an exaggeration on Spencer’s part. this is not me defending him, but the bite from a small child can definitely be a cause for concern. With all the germs and unknowing (strong) force the child may use when biting down on any surface, it’s best to get it looked at to ensure there’s no infection coming or anything of the sort to maintain one’s health. Babies and small children at my job are not to bite other people, child or adult, for that reason and if a bite occurs, an incident report is to be filled out & further caution is to be taken. but like I said, it’s most likely my profession wanting to state this, but it’s the wine making me type this out. Great video so far though! I love watching stuff like this at night in my suggested. and ofc it’s right after I finished rewatching good luck charlie all the way through since it aired on tv when i was younger 😭
alright after watching your analyzation of this, i NEED YOU to analyze my ex relationship😭😭😭😭😭LMAOOO i have subscribed and turned on all notifications from you 🤝
I remember being so confused when she took him back as a kid because seeing Teddy's heartbreak was the first time I ever cried for a live action show and he did NOTHING to deserve it. I was so confused that for years I contributed it to me being ace and not understanding how attraction works for other people but then I talked with my friends and they said "Yeah no that was stupid" I'm not even exaggerating with the Ace thing because I genuinely couldn't wrap my head around it. I still can't. Edit: I know the actors were dating irl but still, no. Just no. Real life shouldn't have to give context to a narrative like this.
Oh our sweet girl, I am so sorry that you are going through a hard time. I'm glad you have your boyfriend to help and support you. I went through a similar period not to long ago where my life was falling apart and my then boyfriend, now husband was so important in my recovery. Take as much personal time as you need, we will be here when you want to come back! ❤
Disney has a bad habit of throwing in a better love interest for the lead only to say "haha sike! you thought we had healthy relationships here?" They did the same thing in Liv and Maddie with Diggy and Liv
it bothers me so much when Disney will introduce a better option over a provenly toxic one and they still choose the toxic one because that’s who they put more setup into (teddy ending up with spencer over beau, maddie choosing diggy over josh, and miley initially choosing jake over jesse). why even show me what could’ve been if you won’t let me have it.
Teddy & Beau were perfect and it's a travesty that they weren't endgame. I have a feeling that she only ended up with Spencer because the actors were dating in real life. I always felt that that kind of thing was an excuse for trash writing, and more often than not, leads to poor performances; real life couples rarely have any chemistry when they're playing characters.
I honestly don't know which ship I hate more, Spendy or Miggy. I love these long form videos though. I normally watch them while working, so it's almost like a podcast. So sorry about your parents. I know it's hard, but I'm glad you have someone to support you through it. Also, please cover Ben and Devi!
when spencer legit said the words "i saw you first" i sat up and looked at my screen like "🤨" like he CANNOT be serious. what is she, a piece of property???
Making teddy accept spencer back was one of the worst things disney ever did.
She should’ve stayed with Beau and try long-distance.
^ especially considering trying long distance is realistic!? Sadly so is forgiving someone that cheated, but the choice Disney made is so damaging 😞 setting such a horrible example for people (usually impressionable people!?) watching
@@sakunarufulexactly, but kids shows can’t have too much healthy relationships. We wouldn’t them to have a healthy relationship or anything
@@bunnyfrosting1744yeah, like kids. They really shit the bed on this one
@@Narra0002 Bluey is a kid’s show/ family show and that portrays healthy relationships.
For me, cheating is the ultimate deal breaker. No amount of development would be able to repair that relationship. You can change and develop for the next girl.
said it perfectly
I've never even watched this show but based on all the things I've found out about them, I completely agree. Can't stand or fathom how there are some people who defend this Spencer guy just because he ''changed'' lmao yes, everyone makes mistakes and you can learn and become a better person from them but there are some things you can not come back from and cheating is one of them idc what anyone else says - disney is trash for making these two endgame!
yes queen :D
Seriously, I honestly wish there would be a show or movie that would just have a couple when they realize that they can’t be together because they fallen in love for someone else, if the other one feels too delusional, with the whole belief of, “I will always love you.”, the latter tells them, “Love someone else.”, just as a way to tell them that it’s over. There would be more dignity in that.
Pretty much. If you cheat on your boyfriend/girlfriend, you don't deserve their forgiveness. You broke their trust.
even as a TEN YEAR OLD i was disgusted with how Spencer was trying to pressure Teddy into choosing him, meanwhile Beau was so understanding and just wanted Teddy to be happy
I agree, I DID NOT think it was right for Spencer to force her to choose. That’s why I’m glad she chose Beau over him.
@@baileyostrom2972 , sucks that the creators did Beau dirty by having him move away and he doesn't return after. Especially when you realize that Luke Benward was really giving it his all in playing the character, FOR ONLY SIX EPISODES, but I thought his character was in more than that.
@@osmanyousif7849I know, I wish that Beau and Teddy would’ve ended up together, and it was VERY disappointing that they wrote him out. But I heard the biggest reason why they made her take Spencer back was because Shane Harper and Bridget Mendler were actually dating in real life.
@@baileyostrom2972 , it also makes Teddy a bit of a hypocrite as she claims she couldn’t make a relationship between her and Spencer work due to him being far away, but then does the same exact thing to Beau. And yet the creators still decided to make her and Spencer be together instead of her and Beau. Seriously, I would’ve preferred if she stuck with Beau to the end even when he did moved away, maybe get a glimpse of what his home life is like and they can compare each other on how well either of them have it.
Same
We also don't see Spencer apologize to Skyler, nor get any confirmation that he ever apologized to her. Spencer really was a prick.
Geez, why is it that the best characters who the Duncan siblings start to date have the shortest time on the show, but the ones with the longest are THE WORST?
PJ+Skyler and Teddy+Beau really were the best relationships.
@@osmanyousif7849yo PJ+Skyler was awesome
😊
That might just be because neither of them are viewpoint characters so if they made up separately from the core family it wouldn't be depicted on the show.
I love Skyler but I wish they didn't make her the "dumb" trope. I feel like her and Teddy could have been legit powerful women friends.
So what I’m taking from this is Ivy is far and away the best character.
100% best friend goals
always has been
What's fun is that she meets Ivy at the place the psychic told her she'd meet her true love so...
It's just the truth.
if she had her own show i would watch it religiously
I'll always maintain that Beau was the better choice for Teddy, and I'm still salty that they made her choose Spencer, who literally cheated on her, over him.
Hey Trina! I've just seen the show in it's entirety this year and from the moment Beau showed up he seemed like a better choice for Teddy than Spencer was. I don't like how he manipulated that first date but he's the better of the two choices. I kinda liked Victor but think he and Teddy are best as friends
@@rahbeeuh Great to see you again, Rabia! Yes, Beau was the better choice, and he deserved better than to be unceremoniously dumped in favour of Spencer, who broke Teddy's heart.
See me problem with a character like beau, is that he’s too perfect, I just didn’t completely buy the chemistry between teddy and him
@@trinaqlikewise! I completely agree. However, I did enjoy Bob's reaction to Beau leaving lol. Beau definitely deserved better than to be written off so quickly as if he didn't matter. If he didn't why introduce him in the first place?
@@awsomedude23456I thought that at first but he grew on me only for me to be crushed by how his story ends
Ivy and Amy’s reactions to the fake breakup are everything lmaoo
Yeah, Teddy should've started dating Ivy because they had chemistry and Ivy would never hurt Teddy.
@@Hauntaku Nope, they are basically sisters. Would be really weird.
@@GabyZillachildhood friends date all the time lmao
@@AleksandarBell I said that would be weird because they are basically sisters, not because they are childhood friends.
@@Hauntakusome people are ✨straight✨ my dude
Spencer always went for the kiss every chance he got, which kind of rubbed me the wrong way because it has been referenced as a way to get her to “shut up” and it just felt like kissing was a replacement for emotional intimacy. Beau kisses Teddy on the cheek first. And he told the truth about his lie about having made up his excuse to ask her out. Spencer always had to be forced to tell the truth (because he was caught lying).
Especially since their first kiss was "shut up/calm down." I have nothing against this type of kiss, but as first kiss? Big red flag. He didn't even give Teddy a chance to react, to push him away. She was talking and suddenly she was kissed. As if it wasn't their kiss number 1000, that you can accept consent to such a situation. He literally gave her no chance to react...
@@aleksandrakeska2290 also, like the original comment stated, a majority of tjeir kisses were initiated by spencer as a way to get her to shut up. bc i totally think this type of kiss could be cute, like they're already in a relationship and one partner is embarrassed rambling like the "that's hot. oh i didn't mean you're hot i mean it's hot outside. not that you're not hot but-" (im not great at writing but this is basically how ive seen it done lolol). Or if they're not dating, it could be a cute first kiss when consensual, like saying "shut up and kiss me" bc it interrupts the person and let's them go in for the kiss.
but yeah, when a majority of the kisses are meant to shut someone up to avoid conversation it's a big red flag
o.o
Beau was an honest man in every sense of the word. He worked hard for what he had and cared very deeply about everyone in his life. He was a GOOD PERSON.
Don't you just love it when Disney gives the girl a healthy love interest after a bad relationship only to send them right back to their red flag? 😆 Yeah, me neither 😗
que Miley choosing jake over Jesse 😔😂😂😂😂😂
@@lovablestyles4794 Maddie choosing Diggie over Josh (and Liv and Holden's relationship as collateral damage) 😭
IKR
I never liked Disney ships because they were just backdrops for me or they just felt flat. Now as an adult, I never understood how the executives approved Mason and Alex, Maddie and Diggie, and Teddy and Spencer. Thank goodness those who grew up with these series just hate them now.
@@lindymoyo9118that was literally the worst decision she could’ve made
I mean she didn’t even have to choose (although she should’ve chosen josh) she could’ve just stayed single!!
And liv+Holden was my favorite ship 😢
The saddest part is that this could’ve been a great lesson for teens who’s partner cheated on them. As this is the only example of this I can think of in Disney Channel. But Spencer did nothing to prove himself as trustworthy to Teddy. The main reason he got her back is because he wouldn’t leave her alone. What’s the lesson there? If you cheat on your partner… stalk them??? Yikes big yikes…
Hannah Montana actually did the lesson right 'cause Miley broke up with Jake after he cheated on her, girl flat out beat him up, bro was never seen again, and she got with Jesse instead-
Disney Channel did a much better job with the cheating thing in Hannah Montana.
Once Jake cheated on Miley/Hannah she dumped him and the show ended with her being with Jesse instead.
not to mention teaching the ones who got cheated on that even tho they were hurt and even if they move on afterwards you should give the cheater another chance like ugh
As a boy who grew up watching this, I didn't even remember Spencer cheated on her at the beginning of the series until now
Could’ve just had him cheat again and reinforce the lesson and have her shit on him and never see or get back together with him again
i HATED that spencer would just conveniently be EVERYWHERE. the skii trip, battle of the bands, super adventure land, the "abercrombie" store, etc etc. just shoving him in our faces (and Teddy's). i remember being so pissed off all throughout season 2 😭
Same! And he was always so passive-aggressive with her!! His character was so awful. I swear whenever teddy was happy he would always something like “okay let’s not do that” and then he would give her a fake smile, like GIRL your man is literally bullying you and acting like he’s better. Idk why Disney kept shoving this man onto Teddy not only because he was a manipulative cheater; he was just genuinely a terrible boyfriend. I really don’t know what Teddy saw in him😂 I wish the writers didn’t salvage his character. Teddy deserved a better man.
Also it’s sad that I know ppl IRL just like Teddy. Those girls/boys always feel like they did something wrong and try to give their all to save the relationship but it usually doesn’t change. Their partner remains cheating on them and they feel like a fool. And on Teddy’s case, Spencer did “change”(sorta, he was still terrible) he didn’t cheat on her again after they got back together. But there is still that fleeting thought when ppl get back with cheaters “will they cheat on me again?” Or “did I make the wrong choice?” The relationship is already broken. It’s just really sad that the victims of a cheating relationship have to deal with the constant dread. I know how it feels to be cheated on, not a pleasant feeling😂. All right I’m done with my crazy rant about about a tv show but srsly, Disney. Why do you glorify cheaters???😒🫠🫠
@@oliviachicken9775 this is so true!!! rewatching this show as an adult whose now been through many toxic relationships, i can really see through spencer now 😭😭 i have no idea why they made teddy get back with him all those times, like girl he DEFINITELY gonna cheat on you again 💀
I know 😂 They were really trying to force this relationship in every possible way. Spencer going to the ski resort is really creepy to me looking at it
@@seukos_k We can't say "definitely". People can change. Spencer is a fictional character and the implication his creators seem to imply is that he had changed from that.
One thing I am glad about though is that Disney didn’t use the trope of “girls that were dating a cheater hate each other instead of hating the cheater” bc that’s fairly common and doesn’t make any sense to me. I’m glad they made Teddy and Skyler friends and had them take out their anger on the person who deserves it.
Disney LA kinda use that trope in Soy Luna. Matteo cheated on Ambar with Luna (nothing serious ever happened just because Luna always rejected him and reminded him that he had a girlfriend). It was Luna who was blamed by Ambar for the growing romance. A guy who was literally constantly flirting with another girl, asking her out, chasing after her was never held accountable. It was always and only Luna who had problems because Matteo falling in love with her and being with Ambar at the same time...
It's wild to me also how Teddy ignores how completely disrespectful to Skylar it is for Spencer to keep calling his relationship to her a huge mistake. I feel like I wouldn't be able to get past the fact that we're now in a position where we have to completely trash and disregard the other girl's very real feelings in order to make it work for us.
Especially when Teddy and Skylar ended up becoming friends or atleast friends-ajcent. To the point Skylar becoming a part of her and Ivys friend group and then later starts dating Teddy's brother PJ. Like, the fact that Teddy got to know Skylar as a person and as a friend, then got back together with the guy that cheated on them both it feels wrong. Then said guys spends his time trying to get back together with you by bad mouthing and saying his rrlation with Skylar was nothing, when he started dating Skylar first before he started dating Teddy as well. It just make the situation so much worse.
I always thought, wait Skylar is here at Teddy's house (at the time when he goes to her house to try and get back together with her), its it possible that he first went to Skylar house to try and get back together with her first them but, because she didn't answer he went to Teddy house. Or what is when Teddy turned him down, would he then go and try going to Skylar house to do the same thing. Like would have been on my mind that whole time.
YEAH I thought the same thing when Caitlin showed the clip of Spencer's apology scene. Like the episode makes it very clear that Skylar is 1) not a bad person and 2) just as much of a victim in this situation as Teddy. If Skylar had seduced Spencer knowing he was taken that would've been one thing, but she had a genuine relationship with him and was completely in the dark about Teddy. Spencer shading her after all he put her through is so goddamn douchey of him, and it sucks that they didn't even acknowledge it when the episode WAS about Skylar and Teddy forming a friendship and relating to each other after the cheating.
I think you guys are nitpicking there. I think he meant his decision to see Skylar was a mistake not that Skylar was a bad person or anything.
I thought I was the only one bothered by that
@@henrypeters5291I almost agreed with them,but what you said is more true
The fact that Brigid and Shane dated in real life might have something to do with Teddy taking Spencer back.
100%, just like how Dove Cameron and Ryan McCartan were also dating in real life, resulting in Maddie taking Diggie back, even though Josh was so much better.
That's what frustrates me. Work and personal lives can and often should be separate. Disney didn't even want them kissing which has nothing to do with anything in particular but I thought I'd mention that. Hugging is fine but after a certain point it just seems odd in relationships.
@@rahbeeuh I completely agree! I remember back in the day some of producers of Austin & Ally wouldn't let Ross as Austin and Laura as Ally kiss for some reason.
That makes the most sense to me
@@emilysullivan3875yeah it just seemed odd.
Spencer was the guy who couldn't take no for an answer and was visibly upset when things didn't go his way! He basically took advantage of Teddy.
If this was a more adult show, things would've been a lot worse, I can only imagine what ways he would've gone about taking advantage of her if this Had been on another network, maybe even going so far as to get her pregnant in order to trap her, he did a lot of questionable things but luckily he wasn't that bad.
And he could never get over his ex then get mad when they move on.
I think my favorite episodes are the ones where she and Skyler are united in what a douchenozzle Spencer is. Also ironic that even for how dumb Skyler is, she ended up handling things a lot better by moving on and being totally over Spencer once she started dating PJ (for some reason I also liked them as a couple)
@@bigbearkat2010 Oh I thought Skyler and PJ were perfect for each other! I was devastated when Skyler and PJ broke up in late season two because they were so cute together. Thankfully, they got back together in season four.
@@lateramae I don't think they would've ever broken up if it wasn't for the actress getting a bigger part on a Nick show
36:46 why did Spencer remembering the exact time they spent broken up give me the ick. like he clearly didn’t keep track of them being back together ‘cause he didn’t know what Teddy meant by 10 months, and he seems so blasé now that he “has” Teddy. It’s giving “obsessive until he gets what he wants and then low effort once he does”💀
Agreed! Also I think Teddy had every right to be upset about Spencer not remembering how they first met. Me and my SO remember after 4 years, my parents remember after 30+ years, it's a big thing!
Idk it's weird to me how many shitty things Spencer did that were framed as "not that bad"
I remember when I met my boyfriend, his exact first words said specifically to me, the reason I started hating him, when I stopped hating him and we became friends, the moment I confronted him about rumours of a crush (and he evaded the question), and later when he properly confessed. I remember our first kiss, my first Valentine's gift to him, and the first time we tried making out. I guess I hadn't really thought about how much you can remember when you're really in love
I totally agree. I also don’t see how it’s romantic that he knew exactly how long it’s been, at least compared to how long they were together.
Was JUST thinking this
I find it *super* ironic that Spencer demands to know if they're friends or not after their first break up, when after their second one, he admits that it would just be _too hurtful_ to stay friends. Like, seriously?! Double standards...
He's a controlling sociopath.
it’s just because he wanted her back and then he didn’t want her back :/ awful
When I was rewatching it my jaw was on the floor when he did that. I will forever hate this ship
i mean to be fair its a while apart and it shows growth
@@serenitymar4850Should've shown more growth.
old Disney Channel had a really shitty history of breaking up amazing couples because the other unhealthier couple's actors are dating irl and it was so stupid, *cough* Mosh
At least on Hannah Montana, Miley and Jesse were endgame.
@@emilysullivan3875 truuuu but honestly for Hannah Montana i don't think Miley was dating the actor who played Jake irl, but i Disney still had that stupid "bUt wE hAvE hiSToRy tOgeTheR" thing and so having the characters choose their shitty ex-boyfriend over the new guy that is so much better for them than their ex
@@MiniKitty27 You're right. I also hated the "having history" thing too.
@@emilysullivan3875 mhm mhm it's like, the relationship is in the past for a reason??? do you not remember???? really, give yourself like 5 seconds to think about how the relationship transpired and whether or not the things that caused the break up are still applicable after time has passed. yes? then *why do you want to get back together with them* ?!?!
Interestingly enough, Mosh is actually a real life couple too (sort of). The actor who played Josh ended up with the Maddie body double in real life, and they got married recently
What bothers me the most is that Teddy and Spencer never had a conversation where he actually explained why he cheated on her. Like, it was so out the blue
Spencer is a horrible person and Teddy was dumb for giving him a second chance. If someone cheats on you, break up imediately! Don't even try to be friends with someone like that because they'll just manipulate you which is what Spencer did.
@@Hauntaku Can we not victim blame please?
@@worm1533nah imma blame someone that takes a cheater back. That’s your own decision
@@ryanweeks6118Wow you are suuuch a forgiving person
@@worm1533that's not really victim blaming, that's calling someone out on making a terrible decision that was OBVIOUSLY a terrible decision before they made it💀
Beau was so good, he was exactly what Teddy needed, not a two timing pig.
Really, what kind of message is Disney sending by having their leading ladies be with dudes who are not worth it?
Also, Teddie had been doing a video diary for Charlie everytime right?? So I could imagine what would be Teddie's video diary advice she would give to Charlie after she got back with Spencer... Also, Future Charlie would have been confuse as hell when she watch all the video diaries her older sister made about dating guys
nah I feel like spencer taking the job of the frog, KNOWING it involves kissing teddy, KNOWING teddy is uncomfortable. Is so selfish and crosses so many boundries?? like BRO
Also, that episode also has a TRASH ending because of Spencer... The premise of that episode is about Teddie having unrecognize feelings for Emmett as she dreams of him doing the kiss scene and actually enjoying it... And then when she tried to reconfirm her feelings for Emmett by trying to practice kissing, Emmett CHICKENED OUT which is quite OOC for him since he definitely dreams about being with her as he has a crush on her since childhood. And then he quits his job as the Frog and SPENCER gets the job instead like what kind of ending of an episode was that
I mean, what happened on that dream?? Did the author of Good Luck Charlie just threw that plot in the trash afterwards?? Why did they even made that scene about Teddie dreaming about Emmett then if they just gonna forget about it the next episode and never bringing that up ever again like it didn't happen?? Also, the part where Emmett CHICKENED OUT when Teddie is about to kiss him and quit the job afterwards, that is so OOC of him doing that as well...
@@alexiscando2068 No. Teddy was trying to use Emmett for her own personal gain. She made it clear that she was hoping that the kiss wouldn't mean anything and she can go back to living her life after they kissed. I'm happy she ends up being the one rejected.
Even as a kid, I never understood why they got back together. Spencer was a lousy boyfriend, even before she caught him cheating, only doing like, the bare minimum. I was Team Beau from Day 1
Heck, Emmett could have been better than Spencer as well... I mean, they knew each other since childhood and he had a crush on Teddie since they were a child... There was also an episode where Emmett and Teddie worked together in the Amusement Park and Emmett was the one who helped Teddie get that job... There was also play that their characters was suppose to kiss so Teddie dreamed about Emmett and her kissing and she actually loves it in her dream... Then, she tried to reconfirmed it when she tried practice kissing on him but Emmett chickened out(Out of character for him because he always dreamed off that scenario to happen) and then quit the job afterwards... And guess what, SPENCER took the job instead like COMMON NOW... They set that whole episode of Teddie might have feelings for Emmett to just throwing that away for SPENCER at the end of that episode like what the hell
I liked that Teddy and Skyler never blamed or hated each other over what Spencer did.
Yeah! Honestly it annoys me when that trope of “you are the person my partner cheated on me with, and even though you didn’t know and also got cheated on, I’m gonna not like you” is used
Ivy shaking Spencer down for Skylar’s contact information is iconic.
It would be so nice if Disney did a spinoff of Good Luck, Charlie, with the original actress all grown up and using the advice Teddy gave her - the video she watches would always be strangely relevant to what's happening to her. Maybe she could be in college, away from her family, and that's why she brought the videos with her. Or even boarding school.
Well now I need this to happen😭
That would be awesome!
The actor is like 14 years old
@@elizabethwarner2934 they could wait until she's older, too
I was thinking that too while watching They teased how Charlie would be grown up more than once so I'm surprised they never went for it. Especially considering how much Disney likes to capitalize on media that's already an established success these days
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At least Skylar ended up with a good guy. She and Pj are so wholesome
They are so cute together
I never realised how great of an actress Bridget is until seeing the clips you included in this video, like she is truly impressive
Yeah she's really good, especially for Disney channel standards
I think that's why I was so hooked onto this show!!
Thank you. when Spencer cheats on Teddy and then Teddy finds the girl he was cheating on her with, and then they connect, and they make a whole song together about how he sucks that is one of my favorite things in good luck Charlie, like they literally made a song calling him a pig. it was so direct. That was amazing to me. She should’ve stayed with beu and continue to have a happy, healthy relationship instead of going back to the pig.
I know, whenever I hear anything to do with that song or even just think back to watching it it comes straight back into my head. I know she decided not to post the video in the end, but looking back I think she actually should've. It would've been a nice thing for her to look back on in the future as a good reminder of why she shouldn't get back together with him.
Then again this is a Disney Channel show so who knows. It would just be nice to see a better Depiction of relationships in my opinion, since we don't get a lot of those, which is a real problem and a real shame for young children and teenagers watching.
And that battle of the bands episode too. They get one over on him by not only beating him but Skyler moves on to PJ and because she's so much happier with him, she just seemed kind of over the Spencer drama in general.
@@bigbearkat2010 also, one that really made me hate Teddie getting back at Spencer is that even CHARLIE her younger sister who isn't even in elementary school by the time Spencer cheated on Teddie KNEW BETTER than her older sister was... Like common, her younger sister already saw the red flag and she wasn't even in elementary school... It would have been a better reminder for Teddie to not get back at him... I wish there are more episodes of that when Spencer is trying to get back at Teddie but Charlie visibly getting upset at him everytime he comes to their house
Beau was better for Teddy is every single way. Girl, why would you get back with someone who cheated on you?! Make it make sense!
Beau was such a sweetheart, and the fact that Teddy gets with SPENCER of all people in the end is just the twist of the knife. He really is the one that got away.
I think the reason why Teddy always takes Spencer back is because she always hears how her parents are high school sweethearts, which comes off as the perfect love story that she wants. One thing I noticed about Spencer is how emotionally dependent he is on Teddy. Spencer constantly emotionally manipulates her as he tells her what to feel and is always expecting an answer on whether they can date again, which is disgusting, in my opinion. Also, I'm not too fond of Spencer's speech in the episode after he cheated on Teddy because we don't know if Spencer said the same thing to Skylar or any other girl Spencer might have seen while dating Teddy. If I were in this situation, I would've never talked to him again and told him to leave me alone because he was disrespectful. My parents taught me to have value in myself, and if someone broke my heart the way Spencer did, then they were not worth my time; something similar happened to my mother with her first boyfriend, which ended up with the other girl getting pregnant and tried to get her back but was firm and told him to back off. Especially with everyone in Teddy's life, don't make it a secret their dislike of him; while I understand it is Teddy's life, and she can make a choice, it would've been nice for Teddy to consider their advice before getting back together. I am still hoping one day, Disney will give us a healthy relationship; I mean, we can still have some drama for entertainment, but it would be nice to see a couple in a healthy relationship for the younger audience to see and understand what an excellent relationship looks like, but who knows in the end.
That seemed to be the whole appeal to their relationship actually. Like watching this video and looking back on how their relationship was handled, before the cheating...it was all based around the fact that they just liked each other. That's it. Their history isn't really delved into, they don't either have a lot in common or balance each other in personalities. They're put together just 'cause. It's wild how the show pushes so much for a ship that even without the cheating would've just been mid.
@@8nicopink868 yeah I agree with you thats all their relationship is
Also can we also just talk about the constant kissing? Like he does it to shut her up or to manipulate her into doing something.
I especially hated that ski lift scene. Like they’re isolated together, she’s trapped in place and unable to leave if needed, and he kisses her. Idk man rubbed me the wrong way.
I think it really just boils down to behind the scenes stuff, mostly that they were dating irl.
Spencer was legit toxic cuz he first cheats on teddy, then lies about it and then comes crawling back the next season. I also didn’t like how they handled Skylar. They start her off as teddy’s friend but they abandon that completely and make her PJ’s girlfriend like what?
Well PJ and Skylar were still friends that’s how she started dating PJ, when Skylar went over to practice for the battle of the bands with Teddy
I mean it is kind of hard to keep any friendship going the same way once they start dating a sibling plus Teddy doesn't really help that situation either by taking Spencer back.
Teddy and Spencer are an awful couple, but Chuck and Trish will always be my worst Disney Channel ship.
Yes so how did they even end up together ?
@@Missmagazinebura He probably wore her down.
@@Missmagazinebura Chuck and Trish are actually a problematic ship for a variety of reasons. Chuck literally sexually harassed Trish and treats her like a piece of property. I absolutely adore Austin and Ally, but Chuck and Trish are so uncomfortable for me to watch because of Chuck. He is way too aggressive and creepy with her.
If Austin and Ally weren’t a Disney Channel sitcom, Chuck would have more than likely drugged her/gotten her drunk, waited until she was passed out, and then he would have straight up *RAPED* her. He’s disgusting.
I'd still say Diggie and Maddie were the worst
@@audreytheausllyologist502that’s a little extreme of a conclusion
Beau was a husband material for sure, and him with Teddy could be a real cute mirror to Teddy's parents, because their marriage is actually pretty good and is working long distance
pls do a ranking of disney parents as couples, it would be so funny!! (also like jerry giving up magic for theresa in wizards beats like 90% of the things main couples ever did)
So Disney has Miley break up with Jake for cheating and not take him back, yet the same doesnt apply for Teddy and Spencer?
I was thinking the same thing
Honestly it probably had to do with them dating irl at the time and everyone involved really not thinking the implications through
And that time (Jake and miley) was a random one time thing while he was lonely without her. If they were going to make one of them be forgiven pick that one not the one where he was regularly cheating even though his girlfriend was right there.
To be clear I'm not saying what jake did was right but that if I had to pick one that would end in hating the guys guts the way miley and he friends and family do and one that ended with her forgiving him and taking him back I wouldn't have picked the one where his two steady girlfriends at the same time became friends by bonding over how badly he hurt them.
@@mellyq92Or neither good forgive the cheater? 🤷
Oh yeah definitely the one I hated the most. I can't still get over the fact that she chose him... Like, Beau was so nice and he really liked her...
and wasn't selfish at all like Spencer was. I never heard Spencer say once that he just wanted Teddy to be happy.
I liked seeing Teddy with Ivy
@@Hauntakuromantically?
why is no one talking about how Spencer cheated WITH THE SAME ACTRESS he cheats on Teddy with, but IRL, cause Bridget and Shane were dating IRL! For me, that makes it all 10x worse, if this wasn't all bad enough ..
And they're still TOGETHER, he cheated and he's with her he's his character
AND Bridget and her were best friends, it just gets worse
Beau was such a green flag like- it's a good thing that your boyfriend gets along with your parents!! I dont get why that freaked her out and she went for the guy who BOTH her parents hate
I never watched Good Luck Charlie, but the audacity of Disney to have Spencer cheat on Teddy in the very first season and then have them be endgame... almost as bad as all the heinous wigs in the show, based on the clips you showed. 😅
Yeah, this ship was pretty much garbage but this whole video just reminded me how good the show actually was overall - I want to rewatch it now, honestly. The acting is there, and there are some pretty great emotional moments, as well as some downright hilarious moments.
I remember being so sad every time I watched PJ and Skylar's breakup episode, like those two had so little screentime but their relationship was written so well that I cared about it to a great extent, and I was so happy about them getting back together later on. Also, PJ is the best boyfriend in the show, I said it - they really gave him a love so much more worth caring about (on his end) than Spencer was worth Teddy's care, and all his moments where he shows his love for Skylar are just so sweet.
One thing I am actually upset about, and probably the only one lol, is Ivy and Raymond having their breakup offscreen, cause I honestly find them so cute, too. Oh, well.
41:53 This scene is my absolute favorite in the whole series. With as much fighting as the siblings do in the series (not knocking it, it’s realistic) it’s great when they show how much they care about one another. PJ is such a good big brother, and honestly, I can’t think of anyone else that could have had an impact on Teddy in that moment like he could.
I hate this storyline because they could've sent out such a good message to kids about learning to move on after someone hurts you and comforting your feeling on how that made you feel but instead they it feels like she forgets she got cheated on so quickly. They could've done so much to show what it was like for someone to heal after getting cheated on but it seems like Teddy didn't even really care. Like you don't have to forgive someone, you don't owe it to them, especially when they something like that to you!
I’m going to be honest. I’ve been hard pressed to believe that Disney cares to give us many healthy depictions of relationships at least the long term ones. The only one I can remember that made me think they were trying for healthy was Austin and Ally
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I think you should rewatch that show because your opinion may change
While I do think they had a lot of chemistry, they had so much unnecessary conflict. They go on ONE date and decide that it’s too awkward and it’s better if they are just friends. But they’re both constantly being pretty toxic when it comes to the other being in a relationship. They should have tried a bit longer, or just talked about how being a couple doesn’t mean they have to suddenly change how they interact with each other. And, honestly, the last episode was also so bad. They just broke up because of conflicting schedules and proceeded to ghost each other for like two years because they couldn’t even talk about it properly. Yeah, not the healthiest relationship
@@incrediblekeenan1751 which one and why?
@@michellecrocker2485 u mentioned Austin and Ally. I know that they’re probably one of the most popular ships but they do some flaws. First they realize their feelings at the wrong time and they constantly break up and get back together
I would 100% watch you ramble about devi and ben for like an hour straight.
yess for sure
I was always team Beau. I was so confused when she chose Spencer over him. WHAT 👏 WAS 👏 THE 👏 REASON?! 👏
I love this and ironically, PJ and Skylar are hands down one of the BEST Disney Channel relationships they might deserve a video too
as someone who never truly watched the show, yes please! i wanna know more about them
power to you for continuing to create even though it isn't easy for you right now x hope you are ok :)
Disney really needs to not put this kind of relationship drama in their shows because it’s really unhealthy for the kids watching. You shouldn’t be teaching them to take back a guy who cheats and lies.
The fact that the actors had a similar story irl to Teddy, Spencer and Skylar is WILD. Bridget and Samantha were best friends and I think Shane cheated on Bridget with Samantha and I think they might still be together. I went down a hole rabbit hole on Tik Tok about it!
I can’t get over how cute Bridget’s dimples are and how much I wanted Beau with Teddy 😭💓
I know. I wanted them to be endgame instead of Spencer
Her and beau is so cute together
Sorry to hear u are going through a crappy time 💕, parents separating is always hard no matter what age it’s the worst glad u have the support u need through this x
I thought she said her parents split up when she was really young?
IK this is old but at the very end she said it was her dad and her step mom getting separated this time
As a kid I never understood what was so special about Spencer. I didn't really get their relationship. Now that I have the whole picture, I see why it confused me so much 😂
The best thing about shows that end when they go to College, is that you can make your own head cannon that after that and conclude that after or during College they had a fallout, and then she went to Texas and it all ends there.
Beau was right there, yet she went back to Spencer, who cheated on her~ Thanks Disney~ 😓
I just found out my parents are getting divorced too. It really sucks. I wish you the absolute best
thank you, you as well ❤️
I was 11 years old when I first watched Good Luck Charlie. I remember being *_FURIOUS_* when he cheated on her and *_EVEN MORE_* angry when they got back together in the end. Also, the fact that Spencer expected Teddy to want to be his friend after their breakup, and was surprised and HURT that she implied to Ivy that she didn't...just ugh. Teddy was toxic too, though she wasn't as horrible. They weren't right for each other from the start.
When I saw the short part with Teddy and PJ, I thought it would be nice to see some ranking of the best siblings relationships/siblings moments from Disney Channel series. In general some movies on siblings would be nice 😊
yess
Teddy and Spencer walked so Maddie and Diggie could run, unfortunately....
What bothers me the most is that the actress that played Skylar got together with Shane Harper after he and Bridgit Mendler broke up… or maybe Shane cheated on Bridgit I don’t really know… the timeline is suspicious
She did?! I never knew this
@@justjoannaksomeone in the comments said that Shane cheated on Bridget with the actress that he cheated on her with in the show and they were bestfriends in real life
I’m sorry to hear about your parents. Sending you love and strength during this difficult and strange time ❤
When teddy had to pick between boys
Beau: I’ll be okay with whoever you pick
Spencer: you must pick…what you didn’t pick me *throws tantrum* we’re not friends
I know. That really shows how much more mature Beau is
I haven't watched good luck charlie in years, but damn, Bridget is actually a really good actress. Her emotions feel so genuine.
beau was such a sweet guy i loved him
Maybe in strange, but Ivy’s outfit in the ski resort episode ate down. She did not play w the animal print on animal print
Actually even Teddy’s outfits are so cute
I never watched the Beau arc guess i was too grown up by that time but GOD he won me over with just a couple scenes. That kiss on the cheek after their first date?? Soooo sweet and dreamy
Last one: i am glad they made skylar and teddy friends. I respected the hell out of skylar when she poured the smoothie on him because this showed she did not know and she was not malicious. There are some mistresses who do know someone is in a relationship and will still date the person in hopes they will leave their partner.
But she did not do this and i like how supportive they are with each other which subverts the trope of the two girls being mean and competitive towards each other. It is women supporting women.
Well in a case of art imitating life, Spencer and teddy were dating back then, and teddy and Skylar were close friends to the extent that the 3 of them went on trips together. And now after breaking up with Teddy IRL, Spencer is dating Skylar 💀
If someone cheated on me and showed up at my house a few days later I'm not going to hear them out I'll close the door in there face 🤷♀️
Edit: Spencer kinda seems like a stalker
the edit made me laugh for some reason lol
Making Teddy pick Spencer over Beau genuinely had me so shook like ? WHY?
Yeah beau is way better then Spencer
pls talk about beck and jade and how toxic they were bc so many people love them and im like why😭
*100% agree!* Or even the Beck, Jade & Tori love triangle would be an interesting topic covered
ok but the CHEMISTRY
Please! Remember that eps Beck got back together with Jade because he claimed it was just “too easy” with other girls and he didn’t want easy 😂😭
@@Emma-tf9jg You mean the abuse?
I love the "Love Stories" series, so much! I would also love to see you expand on the couples. Like a video about the love triangle in iCarly. I know it would be a long and tough one, but I think that this case is similiar to the love triangle from "Girl Meets World", where many people fail to understand that both sides are bad. Would love to see that or any other interesting couples from Nick and/or Netflix
I think Victorious would be better since it was a proper triangle compared to iCarly's setup
@justjoannak Oh, right, I forgot about that one! That's a good one, too!
I’m sorry that all this is happening to you, Cait. Thank you for another great video! Your channel is definitely a comfort channel for me, and it has helped me through a lot of hard times. Praying for you and your family navigating this time!
Its always heartbreaking when parents divorce, even when we’re adults. Sending you lots of love Cait
Hope you the best of wishes, Caitlin. We can be here for you!
I’m sorry to hear about your parents divorce, but am happy for you and Josh. And as a die hard Mevie shipper and fan, I love the Mal and Evie poster on the wall
I just finished watching Never Have I Ever, and I def want a video on it. Especially Devi and Ben’s relationship. Would be great
I forgot how genuinely hilarious Bridget Mendler was on this show. She's giving Alex Russo vibes and I LOVE it. Her and Selena played such amazing comedic characters with perfect timing and I always wanted to be that funny. lol
The conversation Teddy has with her mother was SO good. It made such an impact on me. That wasn't an actress, that was a mom.
The thing that upsets me the most is that they ended Teddy and Beau's storyline by making him act completely out of character. The whole thing about him being too much into bug stuff and too much like her dad is so forced especially because during their date he had said to her that he likes her dad but he really tells too much bug story. Also, when Beau was first introduced it was said that the reason he took the job was so that he could pay for his education, hinting at bigger goals he had, him going back home to work as an exterminator as if this was what he had always wanted is just completely out of the blue because it goes against everything that was established when we were first introduced to the character. They ruined Beau's character in order to give the idea that he "clearly" wasn't right for Teddy and that is - from a technical perspective - poor storytelling and bad writing
i never realized how good of an actress bridget mendler is
She is
God the basketball scene wouldve been so cute. If it just didnt have Spencer in it.
My personal headcanon is that Spencer later cheated on Teddy again and she found her way back to Beau because I refuse to accept Spendy as endgame.
that's so tough! my parents also separated when I was young, sending you lots of love and good vibes 💓
#JusticeforBeauandJosh. (Seriously, the parallels between this ship and Maddie and Diggie are insane.)
i do remember loving teddy and beau
maybe it’s the fact that I work with infants and small children in my profession or honestly maybe it’s the wine talking right now, but at 9:10 about the whole charlie biting Spencer’s finger part, I don’t think it’s too much of an exaggeration on Spencer’s part. this is not me defending him, but the bite from a small child can definitely be a cause for concern. With all the germs and unknowing (strong) force the child may use when biting down on any surface, it’s best to get it looked at to ensure there’s no infection coming or anything of the sort to maintain one’s health. Babies and small children at my job are not to bite other people, child or adult, for that reason and if a bite occurs, an incident report is to be filled out & further caution is to be taken. but like I said, it’s most likely my profession wanting to state this, but it’s the wine making me type this out. Great video so far though! I love watching stuff like this at night in my suggested. and ofc it’s right after I finished rewatching good luck charlie all the way through since it aired on tv when i was younger 😭
alright after watching your analyzation of this, i NEED YOU to analyze my ex relationship😭😭😭😭😭LMAOOO i have subscribed and turned on all notifications from you 🤝
do not worry about not posting, we’re all glad you’re back but if you need to take more time for yourself please do!
I remember being so confused when she took him back as a kid because seeing Teddy's heartbreak was the first time I ever cried for a live action show and he did NOTHING to deserve it. I was so confused that for years I contributed it to me being ace and not understanding how attraction works for other people but then I talked with my friends and they said "Yeah no that was stupid"
I'm not even exaggerating with the Ace thing because I genuinely couldn't wrap my head around it. I still can't.
Edit: I know the actors were dating irl but still, no. Just no. Real life shouldn't have to give context to a narrative like this.
I'm 9 months late to this, put I hope you're doing better now, and I'm glad you're boyfriends helping you through it all
0:04 yes. Yes you can
Oh our sweet girl, I am so sorry that you are going through a hard time. I'm glad you have your boyfriend to help and support you. I went through a similar period not to long ago where my life was falling apart and my then boyfriend, now husband was so important in my recovery. Take as much personal time as you need, we will be here when you want to come back! ❤
i never watched this show but wtf... perfect southern gentleman character and she chooses a cheater over that??? bruh
Disney has a bad habit of throwing in a better love interest for the lead only to say "haha sike! you thought we had healthy relationships here?" They did the same thing in Liv and Maddie with Diggy and Liv
it bothers me so much when Disney will introduce a better option over a provenly toxic one and they still choose the toxic one because that’s who they put more setup into (teddy ending up with spencer over beau, maddie choosing diggy over josh, and miley initially choosing jake over jesse). why even show me what could’ve been if you won’t let me have it.
Teddy & Beau were perfect and it's a travesty that they weren't endgame. I have a feeling that she only ended up with Spencer because the actors were dating in real life. I always felt that that kind of thing was an excuse for trash writing, and more often than not, leads to poor performances; real life couples rarely have any chemistry when they're playing characters.
I honestly don't know which ship I hate more, Spendy or Miggy. I love these long form videos though. I normally watch them while working, so it's almost like a podcast. So sorry about your parents. I know it's hard, but I'm glad you have someone to support you through it. Also, please cover Ben and Devi!
I'm so sorry about your parents and we're really happy you made it to another video!
when spencer legit said the words "i saw you first" i sat up and looked at my screen like "🤨" like he CANNOT be serious. what is she, a piece of property???
Sorry to hear that Caitlin, divorce is never easy :/ Take things one day at a time, God bless you and comfort you during this time ❤️