Sharpening small diameter button bits

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  • When drilling blast holes in rock, drill wear is a considerable part of the cost and always having sharp drills assures good progress and minimises wear on other parts of the system. Don't throw out your worn drill heads, re grind them.
    Edit - I take back any bad things said or implied about the grinder, it speed decrease was all cause by a hidden speed control and no English instructions.
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  • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
    @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I take back any bad things said or implied about the grinder, it speed decrease was all cause by a hidden speed control and no English instructions.

    • @Dan_Hall
      @Dan_Hall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did you get the grinder ? Purchase source?

    • @garywhite2050
      @garywhite2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for adding this! Great videos 👍

    • @venkatrao2348
      @venkatrao2348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have

    • @Damian.wagner
      @Damian.wagner ปีที่แล้ว

      I have found those button bits. before that they are threaded they don't have the taper.. the only issue I found was you can't just order like a dozen of them.. I want your order like thousand or more at a time.. and the company I found them through they sell a tool for removing the buttons so that you can pound new buttons back in the bits.. some us companies sell it by the pound and some other countries sell it by The kg.. but they're more set up to do business with like huge mining companies that can buy you know 500kg of buttons at a time I will price tag right around like $35,000.. I know this information probably doesn't help you.. because you typically use different lengths of drill bits.. and drill most of your holes with a handheld drill.. that's air powered... I prefer a different set up.. it attaches to an excavator the drilling rod is 30 ft long and uses hydraulic power and high-pressure water to cool the bed and push out the Rock pieces.. what is the fan option that I can use air to blow out the hole.. after I found the bottom.. there's a gauge inside the cab that tells me exactly how deep the hole is and what angle is being drilled at.. but props to you dealing with the dust wind and heat of Australia.. I like my air conditioning.. I also like the aspect that I can drill any direction. I can drill holes underneath me above me straight into a wall or completely sideways.. if I need to go deeper then well the drill set up a 30ft the rods are 25ft long I can add a another section 25 foot of rod if need be. .. and a excavator attachment is Way cheeper then say like a joy jumbo.. but your way of drilling holes not saying it's a bad thing I just think that if you have to drill like a dozen holes and you do it like once or twice a year that makes sense but.. the only way you should be carrying a drill around as if you're dropping high-rise buildings or you going to pack a drill over your shoulder and go up 50 storeys and drill into all the supporting concrete columns.. that's a fun job.. not really.. imagine being in a building that's been half demolished and gutted so no windows no walls except for some of your exterior walls that are concrete in part of the structure.. and you have to drill holes into the column why are wearing a safety harness and there's 20 mile-an-hour gusts of winds blowing through the building trying to blow you out of the window that's been removed and it's a 60-story drop and the only thing you have to hold onto is a little rope attached to your harness.. of course if you fall there's about 20 other people drilling holes so it doesn't matter how much you scream nobody's going to hear you..

    • @Damian.wagner
      @Damian.wagner ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as your drill is concerned I would say way too much oil.. air tools are great butt oil is good to add maybe a couple of drops into the tool directly when you first start.. but too much oil can kill the air tool. So you're in line oiler.. I would remove that one running that tool.. nowadays I mainly work metal and we do use drills and grinders and when I work with my dad I use nail guns.. two or three drops is all you need for a whole day use.. not a half a quart per hour..

  • @richdillon2157
    @richdillon2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always wondered how you Sharped your bits, And now I know. Thanks Dave.

  • @bobm5500
    @bobm5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good one . Surprising how well they clean up .

  • @munromark1400
    @munromark1400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the safety gear. Dave you are a very smart and carefull . I worked in a tannery and handled every poison on the WHIMIS list. 64 years young and still in perfect health. Safety gear is wonderful.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mark, knowing about what you are working with and having the right gear is everything. I got a bit messed up by the chemicals that I used on my first job as a teenager, makes you more careful.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought it was possible to change just the little "bits" on the head, but i didn't thought i was possible to sharp them.
    I learned something new again today.
    Thank you for the vidéo.

  • @russwideman9623
    @russwideman9623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks Dave... I am forever going to be seeing that sharpening contraption coming at me when I go to the Dentist!!

  • @Dan_Hall
    @Dan_Hall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really love the "how-to" videos. More Please!!!

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea, might t do one on how to replace pawles, springs and plungers in a rock drill soon, got 2 that need doing.

  • @yt650
    @yt650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The home office and research center for Kennametal is 2 miles from where I live and friends of mine own carbide grinding businesses. Many times the carbide is silver brazed into the base metal. They also do diamond dust adhering to cutting surfaces. Carbide material was invented by vanadium alloy steel company. The people that worked for vanadium back into day were the McKenna brothers. They work in research for vanadium and left the company before carbide was patented. The rest you can figure out.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that YT.

    • @russellsmith3825
      @russellsmith3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to mention that he might be able to braze in new buttons, however the real question is would it be cost effective with time and materials.

  • @Murphyslawfarm
    @Murphyslawfarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    G'day Dave very interesting video never seen video on sharpening the small dill heads. Great job mate

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer7848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    228👍's up demolition Dave thanks a lot for taking us all up with you on a work day

  • @scottliska3088
    @scottliska3088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dave for the excellent how to video and its great to see safety is a priority would never have thought there would be cobalt in that drill head hope you can either fix your sharpener or get a suitable replacement resharpening instead of throwing away has to be more cost effective in the long run

  • @poopsniffer100
    @poopsniffer100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave, I've had the opportunity to work with Hastaloy 238, an austentistic stainless steel alloy. This material is, as is every alloy produced by Hanes International, proprietary. Welding all Hastaloy variants is a breeze, flows like honey, banks nicely and makes a welder appear much more skilled than we are. Unfortunately grinding and buffing made me sick and formed a nasty rash. It took some time, given the proprietary nature of the metal, but eventually doc' determined I had a severe reaction to Boron, an element used in the alloy prosses. Knowing what your working with is paramount to being safe. So, good lesson Dave and another great video.

  • @frozenjoe6313
    @frozenjoe6313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great Thanks for the brief

  • @amandagardner565
    @amandagardner565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the mid 1980's i was trained as an electronics service tech for high end electronic test equipment, on of the boss's told me about Beryllium, which was used with copper for connectors and terminals as it prevented sparks when connections were made or broken, and didn't corrode.
    .
    he also explained how toxic berylium dust is and NEVER EVER file, sand or grind the stuff.
    .
    safety first ALWAYS.
    great video Dave, i never knew you could resharpen the little drills.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well... how about that, I was an electronics service tech also, and was also aware that Beryllium Oxide was mixed with the ceramic part of high power stud mount RF transistors - added for it's heat transfer ability - these were easily broken during removal by untrained persons... nobody accept me seemed to care too much!

    • @stuartlockwood9645
      @stuartlockwood9645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast Hi Dave, interesting video, regrind worked great until ying yang went south, sounds like it's the vanes that's sticking, or some kind of blockage, hope Warrenty works out for ya, it's dissapointing mate, is there any way you can adapt the grinding bit onto an ordinary air tool? And supply a separate water lube, that way you'd only have to buy cutters!, cheers mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

  • @theshaddowaust
    @theshaddowaust 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The slow dawn can be many things but first try the spin (by hand) the sharpening side to see if a bearing is going it should turn so easy (unless it's a gear box one), there is then two other parts to check, the water side as it's seal can cause problems but the area to really check is the input side, some of the Chinese made air tools had a air diverter in the handle to allow the speed, if the handle is not set in the right then the air will not push the blades the right way, it happens on some die grinders I have used till we locktighted them in the right spot.
    But anyway it's great to see a video of the small drills being sharpened, I have seen in person the well drill rock heads sharpened.

  • @ralphdeemie4916
    @ralphdeemie4916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is cool happy to see you!!!

  • @timothypirnat3754
    @timothypirnat3754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope you're safe from the floods Dave.

    • @mrcamelpmw
      @mrcamelpmw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      from Dave's Victorian location the floods are about 1000km (600+) miles north in New South Wales, Dave only has to worry about Spade Tailed Wombats and the occasional Drop Bear.

  • @rockman531
    @rockman531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Dave, Very interesting! What's doing the grinding in the cone - diamond or tungsten carbide or ? I'll call my drill steel supplier next week to see if he has new tools or suggestions. Something NOT made in China. Stay well! Happy drilling! Jim ( I did see the compressor go boom! Awesome! )

  • @brucet8551
    @brucet8551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the informative video dave.i would be looking at adapting a battery powered die grinder to do it .

    • @AnanusBananus
      @AnanusBananus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It requires some pressure so get one with all the torques on it

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is strangely addictive........i think its Daves charisma! I like thrifty money saving measures. My ancestors are mostly Scottish............joke "How was copper wire invented? Answer : Two Scotsmen fighting over a penny"

  • @mikewasowski1411
    @mikewasowski1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome 👏

  • @bobjoncas2814
    @bobjoncas2814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ...great info. nice work ,keep safe....

  • @jamesgingin590
    @jamesgingin590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's probably freezing up. You need a moisture separator

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Interesting thought James, it did not seem to be cold though, I have a separator, I'll give that a try.

    • @johnscott2849
      @johnscott2849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have noticed he gets a lot of moisture out of his air line when he blows dirt away. Those gas powered air compressors always seem to blow a lot of moisture.

    • @johnscott2849
      @johnscott2849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast separators don't really work. You need a filter that removes water.. one that uses the stuff they put in those little packets can't spell it or say it right .hah hah

    • @MGSsancho
      @MGSsancho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnscott2849 silica gel?

    • @johnscott2849
      @johnscott2849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MGSsancho yeah but was thinking of desiccant Made one from a water filter. Glued a capped tube in it. Drilled a bunch of small holes in the bottom 1/4 and ran the air into the outlet so it would blow into the desiccant. Works great. One big enough for my compressor was 300$. Less the 50 in this. Supposed to be able to dry it on low heat in the oven up to 30 times. Changes color when it needs changed or dried.

  • @Hutch400
    @Hutch400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to know what they say. You certainly tested it well. 👍

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Often wondered about this Dave - very interesting to see your approach. If that saves you about $35 each time it's got to be good! Pretty handy grinding tool and results look great. .. but, not so good regarding the RPM's dropping. Had wondered too how much life the actual grinding head might last.

  • @ke6gwf
    @ke6gwf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It may have worn or sticking seals.
    First thing I would try is rinsing the old oil out, cleaning it up, and putting some lighter oil in, maybe proper air tool oil, and see if it runs the same speed.
    If it sounds the same, take it apart and check the seals.. It's likely a vane motor, with plastic spring loaded vane seals, and they may have worn down fast, or be sticking and not putting pressure on the walls.
    If they are worn out, you may be able to upgrade the seals.
    It sounds like the air may just be bypassing the motor.
    Could also have a shaft seal or valve issue..
    So my guess is either worn seals or gummed up oil.
    And you may need to run it off a regular small compressor with a tank, because they don't dump as much moisture.
    Or put a nice filter dryer lubricator in front of it.
    It may be an air tool like your drills, but it is a more delicate device and needs better conditions, and probably different oil lol

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure I have got to the bottom of the issue now but have not tried it out again yet.

  • @rickseifert5139
    @rickseifert5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you do the resharps properly with the diamond burrs and with water for lubrication and dust suppression. The buttons being made from tungsten carbide composition last for a while . I've done bit sharpening heaps . Best to cut back around the buttons with grinder just enough to get full depth for the burrs . Bear in mind some burrs are for taper / ballistic button and others are for round dome buttons. Most bits I've used on the rock drills have been R 32 thread for the steel coming out of the drifter / hammer drill . Using knockon bits is cheaper depending on the use ,amount required etc . I've worked for mobs such as Boart Longyear, Sandvik etc. Used and trialed many bits from manufacturers .
    Looks like your standard 45mm bit your using there . Great video mate , hope you continue to get a good life span out of you bits both new and resharps.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for commenting Rick, you should post some video. Most of my drill heads are H22 Knock on's and some R32's for the AirTrack rig.

    • @rickseifert5139
      @rickseifert5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As much as k would like mate , I don't have the camera equipment to make anything like videos . Only have my experience from sharpening bits for the Cost per meter / Price per meter contracts that the company I worked for years prior . Your equipment is beauty to those of us who have working in the mining sector . It's a pleasure to see rock drills working giving the desired result prior to charging and firing. I remember being charge up crew years back when at end of shift having for fire all the headings that we charged and the occasional stope. Everything we fired was using a "stinger " on the firing lines , once the heading had fired , turn the vent fans back on and move onto the next firing point so on until all done . It gave a feeling of accomplishment when hearing all the holes go off before the fans get turned on again. Love your videos mate , excellent camera footage on all of them . Best continued success .

  • @carlmitchell4297
    @carlmitchell4297 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Dave, good to see you doing a little work for a change :), give me a call if you are looking for grinding cups, we generally stock most sizes. All the best mate. Carl Mitchell

  • @jerrystott7780
    @jerrystott7780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a poor experience with Chinese generators about 12 years ago, I avoid machinery built there after going through that. Good luck with the grinder. Might check the intake on the air side, some older tools had a odd filter there that could clog.

  • @ytdf1972
    @ytdf1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds like a dentists drill, but more awesome. I know it varies depending on the rock but how much hole do you average out of one of these bits?

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depends a lot on the rock, for Basalt, Hundreds of meters Granite about 60m, Rhyodacite ~ 30m

  • @scruffy6151
    @scruffy6151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The oil you are using might not work with a high speed drill it might be gaming up. If you can flush it out with brake clean and try using atf oil instead. Atf works good on air tools as it clean and lubes at the same time. It's worth a try.
    The tool does a good job at sharpening the points.
    Ps that is what we use in drilling shot hole in underground tunnels with all the sand well had to deal with in the drill.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your on the money 61, I always use ATF. I'll clean it out with alcohol and see what gives.

    • @Ryanwinegardner
      @Ryanwinegardner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can ATF damage plastics and seals? It seems I read something about that.

  • @jasethesmiff5683
    @jasethesmiff5683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ....vs high explosives. U are the coolest dad, next to me.

  • @timothypirnat3754
    @timothypirnat3754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave, good video. Why are there holes in the bottom and side of the heads? For air or water drills?

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are for the flushing air or water that gets all of the stone chips out of the hole fast so you don't waist energy crushing them all to dust.

  • @user-rr3wk1ip5j
    @user-rr3wk1ip5j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Очень интересный канал! Крутая работа! 👍👍👍👍

  • @odc43054
    @odc43054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw you had ear plugs in as well. That thing was loud!

  • @brennanlukas5467
    @brennanlukas5467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check the inlet side for a sintered brass filter. You may actually have too much oil that is restricting the air flow into the tool motor

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That did cross my mind Brennan, but there is no such filter. Pretty sure I have got to the bottom of the issue now but have not tried it out again yet.

  • @pihop
    @pihop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in Sweden the most economical diameter is 45mm. We usually sharpen the buttons until we are down to almost 32mm hole diameter. They last for ages.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! that is getting your monies worth out of them!

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Post some video of your work Pihop.

    • @pihop
      @pihop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @blasterwayne6
    @blasterwayne6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've grinded probably tens of thousands of buttons, I've seen those handheld units... you are correct Dave, something has to be wrong with the unit if it has lost that kind of speed after only a handful of uses... would be understandable if you've sharpened 100-150 bits and then lost some speed, but not that soon

  • @kevinauld4367
    @kevinauld4367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to know ! I hate tool's that let me down and busting concrete or rock is no fun with a dall bit

  • @sighpocket5
    @sighpocket5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!!!! ( lube oil may not compatible with seals in tool.....!)

  • @Wolfhound.
    @Wolfhound. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just an idea but how much air was meant to be fed to that thing ? maybe it was to much or something ? or maybe it bogged with oil maybe try cutting the oil supply and see if it clears up

  • @tinashepikira
    @tinashepikira ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dave, This is great work kindly share the name of the grinder that i may order one also

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It came from Pro Drill in China - www.rock-drill-bits.com/hand-held-button-bit-grinder/hand-held-button-bit-grinder-for-sharpening-bit-carbide.html They are easy to deal with and quite helpful.

  • @sharkeyist
    @sharkeyist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good insight👍, Your tool is waaay over oiled! That’s where your speeds gone, I used to use a high speed air grinder building alloy yachts, too much oil was worse than none. Your big drills/hammers are a very different animal to that prob vane motor, strip it, clean it, few drops too a light smear n she’ll go. 👍🇬🇧👍

  • @Murphyslawfarm
    @Murphyslawfarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave have you be getting much rain down there we have had 161mm in six days so we are happy

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your ducks would be happy, not much here yet but wet week coming.

    • @Murphyslawfarm
      @Murphyslawfarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast Yes the ducks are very happy but the goats not so much lol.

  • @robgriffin4716
    @robgriffin4716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make sure the exhaust screen isn't clogged? Great video.

  • @komitadjie
    @komitadjie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sure takes a while, but looks like it works pretty darn well (Until it didn't, anyway)! Will be really interesting to see how these compare in use to a new head, and if you can tell any difference in real world cutting ability.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They work great Dan.

    • @komitadjie
      @komitadjie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Even if you can only get one more use out of 'em (that sure looks like it's worn down quite a bit!) fifty bucks is still a darn good return on your time to sharpen those up, I'd think!

  • @kevdimo6459
    @kevdimo6459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perhaps you could try putting a magnet in the exhaust to see if there’s any metal floating about.

  • @davegeorge7094
    @davegeorge7094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the air motor is for low speed and air pressure. Does is have plastic like vanes?

  • @chrispy104k
    @chrispy104k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like you will end up with a slight reduction in the diameter of the hole drilled but I guess the reusability outweighs that impact.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct, when selecting a series of drill steels to drill a deep hole you must take care that none of the longer drill steels are larger diameter that the short ones, this would normally done with just a quick glance at the gauge wear, can't do that anymore.

  • @gl309495
    @gl309495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how long the sharpening bit lasts and thus the cost per bit to re sharpen.

  • @andrewclarkehomeimprovement
    @andrewclarkehomeimprovement 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, thanks Dave. The grinder head is that diamond or ???

  • @MrLargePig
    @MrLargePig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've sharpened quite a bit of carbide, and I expect you've got a diamond cone, on that rig. Actually, most of the cost is probably the diamond! If the air drill gives up the ghost, which is dead common for that kind of stuff, you may be able to remove the sharpening cone and chuck it in a drill. Add water, and you're good to go. As for the pneumatic drill, 90% of the problems I've seen with air tools is either too much, or not enough, oil. I do suspect something else, though, because of your familiarity with air tools.

  • @robertforrest7956
    @robertforrest7956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take care of your Tools, and they'll take care of you when you need them. Very interesting vid. In many ways, you're a hard rock miner. Just wish there was more Gold in it. 👍😅 But the BOOMS make up for it. 😉🥳

  • @frankpristov9745
    @frankpristov9745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like a reverse countersink bit

  • @vaughanellis7866
    @vaughanellis7866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds as though the vanes on the motor are about nacked, should not give out after two uses, will the grind head fit any other rotary tools, what rpm's does it need to be efficient?

  • @jacobrawles8687
    @jacobrawles8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would they drill for the fethers and wedges before power drills?

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah... you would have used a tool called a star chisel made by your local blacksmith and you had to belt it with a hammer while rotating it a little after each hit.

    • @jacobrawles8687
      @jacobrawles8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast wonderful! Thankyou for your response. Im a hobby blacksmith, so maby i will try to make one some time.

    • @jacobrawles8687
      @jacobrawles8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that why some lump hammers you buy at the hardware store called drilling hammers?

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be Jacob.

  • @pihop
    @pihop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you buy this grinder? I'm looking for a cheap one myself.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xiamen Prodrill - China www.rock-drill-bits.com/hand-held-button-bit-grinder/hand-held-button-bit-grinder-for-sharpening-bit-carbide.html While checking their recently updated add for this product I noticed that they have taken a frame grab from on of my videos for the add.

  • @user-wj4cd7xi1q
    @user-wj4cd7xi1q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, great job. Is it possible to provide us with the website link selling this machine?

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.prodrill.com.cn/single.asp?bigclassid=10&sedclassid=143&thdclassid=149&classid=143&infoid=242

    • @user-wj4cd7xi1q
      @user-wj4cd7xi1q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast
      Thank you,,
      dear, and I have the honor to follow the distinguished channel
      I wish you a happy day..👍🏻

  • @natemcnutt2047
    @natemcnutt2047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, Where did you get the air grinder? whats the deepest hole you Drilled with a plugger drill and what max diameter.
    Any thoughts on hydraulic plugger drills? I'm thinking about buying one , it produces it's own air and hooks up to a hydraulic pack. I need to be able to drill at least 5 'though and am uncertain if that will cut it.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Nate, I got the grinder from Prodrill in China - www.prodrillrocktools.com/g200-hand-held-button-bit-grinder-sharpening-bit-carbide. The longest drill steels that I have for the hand drill is 4.5m... but it is always a challenge when going that deep, 5' is a breeze with an air drill even for a beginner it is not too difficult. What make of drill is it? one of those Orange Stanley drills?? I'm thinking that if it makes its own air it may not be very much air and that is a recipe for problems. The drill rods are known as H22 rods - 22mm across the hexagonal flats or 7/8'' hole sizes available from 27 - 50mm.

    • @natemcnutt2047
      @natemcnutt2047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Demolition Dave Drilling and Blasting I Like your blasting videos very nicely done . You bust it up good with good control. Nicely done.
      The drill I'm getting is a Maruzen dh205 And a maruzen hydraulic pack. It does have an air port to connect an air line as well if needed so that's a good thing. I also just bought a pneumatic sinker 260b plugger which I'm sure she should go over 10' I'm sure. I'm used to drilling on actually old tracks and the new modern style drills like the b.v gardener denvers and atlas copcos rigs and some hoe drills lol. I'm wanting to work for myself so I bought a couple rigs to get me started.Little more labour intensive but a little hard work will never kill ya!!. I like your kobelco drill attachment ! What brand is that?

    • @natemcnutt2047
      @natemcnutt2047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Demolition Dave Drilling and Blasting How many feet do you usually get out of a bit? I'm in hard granite country and just curious how bits I will need , I have 94 holes and there 5' , 38mm diameter

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds good Nate, the drill mast on the Kobelco is home built by my good friend Mike.

    • @thangaperumal2642
      @thangaperumal2642 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@demolitiondavedrillandblastthank you very much Mr.

  • @haganquillen8852
    @haganquillen8852 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ck.exhaust probably plugged

  • @FishFind3000
    @FishFind3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:50 did you oil the machine before each use? It’s probably worn the plastic fins down and possible gouged the bore of the motor. If you oil it and the rpm/power comes back that might be the ticket to know if it’s worn.

    • @retrofitter
      @retrofitter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The oiler is in view at 9.45

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I made sure that It was served up plenty of oil, ma be I gave it too much.

  • @d2sfavs
    @d2sfavs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you tell what they mean by Chuck Size: 7/8" x 3-1/4" im only familiar with the 1 inch x 4 1/2 inch drill steels.thanks

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All of the rods that I use are 7/8 x 4 1/2, this by far the most common in Australia, also known as H22 x 104 (mm).

    • @d2sfavs
      @d2sfavs ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you

  • @tousifpatted7690
    @tousifpatted7690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which bits are Best for Rock drilling Sir.
    1.integral or 2. small diameter button Bit
    .Which bite Hole fast in rock

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Button bits with ballistic shape buttons drill granite ~30% faster than Integral chisel bits.

  • @swishswish386
    @swishswish386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍

  • @andrewclarkehomeimprovement
    @andrewclarkehomeimprovement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope you're not affected by the terrible floods Sydney is having.

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "pretty keen on safety"
    says guy that uses explosives every day

    • @jackprice6599
      @jackprice6599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hasn't blown himself (or anyone else) up so it must be an accurate statement.

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Won't sharpening the buttons make the hole drilled slightly smaller, due to the reground point of the outer buttons being lower & further in?

  • @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
    @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long does it take to resharpen? Is it worth the bother?

  • @user-pl5cm1rm3c
    @user-pl5cm1rm3c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    어디서 구할수있나요?

  • @munromark1400
    @munromark1400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tungsten cutter?

  • @jacklegminercanada3866
    @jacklegminercanada3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Copco and Sandvik used a slightly different taper, idk if it was a fuck up or what but it used to drive me nuts, the buttons get pounded in and when the taper finally locks they bind hard. Haha

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah, what a nightmare, all of mine a 6 degree taper off the center line or 12 degree included angle.. but there are also 7 and 11 that I'm aware of Jack. I shim them with aluminum foil and this helps a lot.

    • @jacklegminercanada3866
      @jacklegminercanada3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast I heard of copper sleeves for that purpose, come to think about it. Before my time though.

    • @jacklegminercanada3866
      @jacklegminercanada3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, maybe you can explain what the coating is on the inside of a brand new bit, is that aluminum. Looks like it.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have also heard of copper shims, but never able to find any, I did obtain some .002 brass shim stock and cut some... they were OK but the material was a bit thick .001 would have been better. I have found that regular Al foil is very good and I heat shrink the the bit on. Maybe I should do a video on this as I'm sure a lot of people have cursed when they fall off and stopped using them when a few simple tricks can overcome most issues.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is a Zinc coating.

  • @RolandElliottFirstG
    @RolandElliottFirstG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Single use disposable Chinesium as per normal, it was probably full of metal fileings before you started (from manufacture) Half speed seems to indicate very very worn out, send it back for another one.

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is the exhaust blocked?

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tried that Bruce, unfortunately no.

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast
      Bugger.
      Plenty of oil so it shouldn’t be vanes.
      Last place I would look before throwing it is the front bearing getting full of a water grease mix due to leaking seal.

  • @markfoster6110
    @markfoster6110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It might need lighter oil . F it's a vane style air motor it needs light oil . Hope this helps

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using Dextron ATF (my standard drill oil), I believe it is a vane motor, thanks for your input Mark.

    • @markfoster6110
      @markfoster6110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demolitiondavedrillandblast might need. Something as light as Diesel . I have a hispeed grinder that uses 2 weight oil .. like water . It does about 50000 rpm .

  • @seymourpro6097
    @seymourpro6097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks as if one of the better made air drivers would suit the grinding head. Maybe the water feed would then need attention.

  • @dogwedl1167
    @dogwedl1167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @kat2641
    @kat2641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A penny saved is a penny made for the pocketbook 👍 Well can not say for sure on your tool; but I am not sure how dry your incoming air is .. In my air tools even though I have oil injection, moisture will slow mine down after a day use.. I flush them out with alcohol an then oil them ( a little excessive ) an then put them up an next day? They seam to be back running at 100% ... I am not sure if it is the heated dirty oil or the moisture..But I do know from past experience, water will slow the air vanes movement Under centrifugal force from fully seating on the outer cylinder interior wall... I would go ahead an ask the manufacturer but I'm betting my last dollar the air vanes are restricted in movement. I have a couple times had to disassemble an clean a vanes an the of the vane holder... Just my 2 cents worth ;-)
    An to others reading this ? Yea I tend to butcher proper terminology of wordings for parts... What can I say ? I'm a very old goat an set in my ways 🤣
    Edit ... Also I just remembered something I ran into a few times on some higher End air tools. Check the incoming airport for a fine mesh screen on the unit. You'll have to remove the air hose from the unit take a flashlight and see if there isn't a fine mesh safety screen in there and if it might be partially plugged with something to come out of the airline...🙃

  • @ookalleoo
    @ookalleoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👌

  • @williambryant5946
    @williambryant5946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely think if it lets you down you should put a magic toilet roll inside of it!💥👍

  • @BrittWayneSmith
    @BrittWayneSmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    seals may be bypassing

  • @bsimpson6204
    @bsimpson6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like you can only sharpen them once, then you run out of 'tooth', still better than throwing them away

    • @deconteesawyer5758
      @deconteesawyer5758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on how you sharpen them. Additionally, the wear on the carbide is proportional to the distance drilled, so you can spend a lot of time and sweat pounding the stone to dust progressively getting less and less return wearing a giant flat spot on the drill bit, or you can sharpen more often and make bigger chips quicker with less effort.

  • @haydenverstin7326
    @haydenverstin7326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey there, I keep asking around about tungsten carbide because I use to make tooling from it and everywhere i ask even health and safety basically say you have to physically consume about 1 table spoon of the stuff before something happens even with the cobalt as all of our grades had it.... pretty much they said lead is worse and more cancerous unless your working with it non stop then no problem... anyone one else ever asked? I'd like to hear what other places say

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank Hayden, having been injured by a chemical exposure as a teenager (and still suffering to some extent) I'm a lot more careful these days. The manufactures do have a warning about grinding these buttons so I take heed and do the best I can.

  • @user-wp1jg5eo2f
    @user-wp1jg5eo2f ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it 46 mm?

  • @jasethesmiff5683
    @jasethesmiff5683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I look at the gravel, nodded to myself and u def need conc.

  • @selvam7216
    @selvam7216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Antha machine rate yavalla sir

  • @w34356
    @w34356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    air handel also air exhaust must keep you cool... Sad it did not last long... maybe you can just find the sharpening tool end and put it on a normal Drill or low speed right angle grinder. I bet its a common thread.

  • @djeity
    @djeity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I assume you'll need to downsize your nominal hole diameter for each drill? 38->35, etc... Still smaller if now a more useful shape.

  • @johannviljoen64
    @johannviljoen64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    09:48, Probably don't have "thrust bearings" in there, and applying sideways pressure on the shaft bearings will wear out a small bearing in no time. So long as it cost less than the replacement of all the heads you sharpened!

  • @TurinTuramber
    @TurinTuramber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the grinder made of? Wood pecker lips?

  • @Katzenkratscher
    @Katzenkratscher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a video of a sharpening gadget orbiting the Moon.

  • @TrevorDennis100
    @TrevorDennis100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK, so I did not know about the nasty effects of heavy metals in cutting bits. Most of the carbide inserts I use just get thrown away when dull, but I do grind some tools like boring bars that have braised carbide tips, using either a white grinding wheel, or more often, a CBN wheel. I have no idea if those tips have cobalt in them, but I will be trying to find out. Interesting what you said about cheap Chinese tools. Earlier today I watched a JPayDirt video where Jeff Anderson is working on a Peterbuilt truck and trying to track down a decent oil pump for its Cummings engine. Everything seems to come from China, and is well out of spec. th-cam.com/video/o50-2jnVO7M/w-d-xo.html
    I have a LOT of Chinese tools, some of which are OK, and some not so great, but by heck they are cheap. I'm at least as well equipped now in my retirement that when I worked at Ford Product Development (UK), and the bottom line is that I simply wouldn't have all those tools if I had to pay the price of Starrett or More & Wright, or Mitutoyo or Brown & Sharp etc.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear you Trevor, some are so cheap that they could even be single use and that's viable (but obscene).

  • @robbridges7810
    @robbridges7810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just hope they don’t start getting stuck in the hole on you! After sharpening it looks like the diameter of the hole will be a little bit smaller.
    If you had a 3 foot diameter dead tree that you wanted to blow up using black powder how much would you guess it would take? I have several acres of property and several dead trees. To dangerous to cut! I thought maybe I could drill a hole in them and blast them. I wish I could barrow you for a bit. Lol

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Rob, black powder will do the job, provided that it is tightly confined, the secret is getting the load down under the middle of the stump, you would need a few Kilograms.
      Beware that despite the common opinion that black powder is safe to work with, nothing is further from the truth. Black powder is very spark sensitive and the tiniest static electricity spark could really spoil you day.

  • @goodiezgrigis
    @goodiezgrigis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evrey cent counts nowdays, too bad that some/ most Chinese tools need service in few hours of use.
    I use diamond wheel for sharpening the SDS widia drills and get a ton more life and speed out of them, specially in rebar reinforced concrete.

  • @AA-69
    @AA-69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    IT CHINESE, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @sonicbluecoupe
    @sonicbluecoupe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of the dentist

  • @brucelonsdale8422
    @brucelonsdale8422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she's cactus!

  • @Graveltrucking
    @Graveltrucking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LOL cheap Chinesium, it did a good job, you got some sharpening done before it crapped the bed.

  • @benjaminshropshire2900
    @benjaminshropshire2900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How people think about risk and danger is a funny thing. I'm guessing that a fair number of the things you use PPE for are harmless to someone just walking past as you work, but standing next to it for years on end can make even relatively innocuous stuff into a real problem. And yet if anything the natural inclination is reversed: people will leave the neighborhood to avoid a one time exposure and others will work in that field for years without any PPE. The less common a risk is, the easier it is for people to stay worried about it.

    • @demolitiondavedrillandblast
      @demolitiondavedrillandblast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear you Benjamin, I think many people are scared about new potential hazards while missing the boat on very real every day risks. I have spent too much time discussing the supposed hazards of 5G mobile networks with many concerned folk. I have a background in radio comms and a lot of experience working in high level non ionizing radiation fields, and related training for radiation safety for such. I reason this way, many folk agitate about the possible exposure hazard of 5G and cancer while at the same time happily exposing them selves to an extremely high level broad band radiation source that causes problems that kill millions every year. That radiation source is the Sun.

  • @shrimishratechnology8255
    @shrimishratechnology8255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please

  • @orange42
    @orange42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds a bit stuffed :(