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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2024
- Jams & friends summon a demon!
Intro Music: "Sneaky Snitch"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Jams's storytelling is my absolute fave. Her games always feel so friendly and fun and I love it. 💕
Came for the clocktower... saw the kittens? omg KITTENS!!!!
Loved watching the amne go to the evil team for help and the realization in their eyes as they then carefully steer her wrong lmao
Drunk Amnesiac learning what night it is would be hilarious, for about two nights...
Jams is such a good and funny storyteller. It's always fun to watch her play as a storyteller
She’s really great! I really enjoy hearing her talk through her storytelling choices
Seconding! As a viewer - love Jams games 🙂.
Spoiler
Not the first time JC makes it look like a zombuul even though he is not. I don't remember where it was but there is an amazing game with JC bluffing savant for 10 days.
Phew, a lot of good plays from everyone. I also do love the potential of Amnesiac but sometimes that "play storyteller telepath" can be so frustrating, despite such a well-written power-- the mind dominoes just didn't quite fall right.
Didn't see the Twitch-Chat, but here is my contribution: A HOUSE of Nobles, a BANNER of Knights, a SWEEP of Chambermaids, a FORESIGHT of Fortune Tellers, a SPADE of Undertakers, a BARREL of Innkeepers, a CHOIR of Gossips, a PONDERING of Philosophers, a PRETENTION of Artists, a CONFUSION of Amnesiacs, a FRATERNITY of Drunks, a SHOP of TINKERS, a REFUGE of Recluses, a BOX of Hatters, a TRILOGY of Godfathers, a VILE of Poisoners, a FLOCK of Harpys, a SUMMONING of Summoners, a BALL of Ojos, a PARTY of Pos.
I also like the idea of a Séance of Fortune Tellers.
The only change I would make is a CIRCLE of summoners. Other than that, love this list!
A group of knights is called an order.
23:57 if you're looking at comments before watching and going "wha?"
It seems like the Summoner ability needs clarifying text about good’s win condition on days 1-3. (Does good win immediately if the Summoner is executed? Does good win on night 4 when no demon is created?) Here’s a fun alternative: “Until a demon is created, you cannot die.” This way, if execution fails, you could have an outed evil Summoner, or (depending on the script) Lleech and Fool and Sailor worlds, etc.
Not everything pertaining to the Summoner is able to fit on the token itself (unfortunately), it has been clarified that good does not win as a result of there being no Demon until there is no way for the Summoner to make a Demon, whether that's due to being dead, drunk/poisoned, or simply past the Summoner's turn in the night order on n3.
The Blood on the Clocktower novels* should feature a chambermaid walking into a room, seeing a dead body, and wordlessly moving on to clean another room.
* I really want this to be a thing!
Overall, was a fun game! Summoner Po is a really brutal combination that may be too strong together. Time will tell.
I love Jams but that take on the temperature of chocolate is so bad!
warm, i.e. room temperature chocolate is by far the best. I absolutely detest refrigerated chocolate.
This isn't meant to be a dig on a player. This role is new, and it'll take people time to learn the best strategies around it. But am I crazy, or is "There is a summoner" the worst possible gossip? If there is a summoner, there will be 1 death controlled by the Storyteller. If there isn't a summoner, there will be 1 death controlled by the demon. It feels like gossiping that there is a demon or that there isn't a summoner would communicate more information.
It's not a high-information gossip, but there are certain mechanical benefits to making that gossip on certain scripts, if the Storyteller is willing to play along. For example, as we saw in this script, there could have been a Ravenkeeper proc. Alternatively, if the Storyteller correctly telegraphs that the N2 death was a gossip kill (and there is, in fact, a summoner in play), certain characters might be able to utilize that information to their advantage (such as an Artist asking "is there a Summoner between players X and Y clockwise inclusive" or a Philo going Juggler/FT/Knight to try and find the demon after n3, or an Alchemist-Assassin spending their ability on N3 to try and snipe the Summoner or the demon they just created).
Can someone help me find this script? I’ve looked EVERYWHERE :(
Regarding the final night... yeah, the game is over as soon as there's only two players remaining, so remaining characters wouldn't wake.
Technically, the Ravenkeeper *would* wake in between them dying and the final death, but as this has no impact on the game here, it's probably better to just skip it and go to a grim reveal.
Two major problems with the way Amne was run here:
- It makes it way too easy for the Amne to actually learn their ability, especially when you consider the fact (as I understand) that Jams would have kept answering questions even if the Amne died early.
- It makes the conversation between storyteller and Amne take significantly longer, to the point where players can easily meta that Amy is actually the Amne.
In short, it should be the job of the Amne, and the players, to figure out the Amne ability, not the storyteller.
To counter both of your points:
1. Amy didn't Bingo her ability, therefore we can't really say it was too easy. Jams' ST guidance was just the right amount of help where it wasn't giving Amy her ability, but it was pushing her in the right direction. Also the trade off in letting Amnesiacs guess their ability when dead is that yes they can still guess, however they are dead so their ability has no more effect on the game unless otherwise specified.
2. Jams could easily do that with someone bluffing Amnesiac too. Whether someone is actually that role or they are bluffing it being consistent with how you run it as an ST is important. I imagine being Jams it would have been consistent in treatment if Amnesiac was a bluff
Can we get a gaggle of subs?
Does Amy Rose foster kittens? She seems to have a limitless supply. 😊
I am sure I am the minority, but I really dislike the gossip character. It just seems to be a time waster. I would personally not use it.
As a watcher I don't like it and the Juggler much either. I'm sure they're more fun when you're in the game and I'm looking forward to try them irl but they make the nomination phase so long in these videos hahaha.
Gossip and Juggler can be really powerful. It just depends how they are used. I've seen a Gossip destroy an Evil team in 3 Gossips. There are a lot of roles where in the right situation can be more powerful than people first think
@@Crimson_Rogue97 I don't question that it is a powerful character. The problem is the character on its own adds 30 minutes to a game. I don't mind the juggler as it only happens once. Everyday before nominations, there is 5 minutes of "gossips", most of which are just jokes.
I am not against joking, but I don't want a game mechanic that encourages it.
@@xragg It depends on the players and how the ST runs the game. If you've got a decent set of players and a decent ST it's fine. Also, disguising powerful Gossips in what could be viewed as "joke" Gossips is quite fun and can disguise where the actual Gossip is. I don't think I've been in a game where Gossips and/or Juggles take that long to get through
@@Crimson_Rogue97 Obviously play it if you like and I would bet many situations it is perfectly fine. Just from my experience watching the games on utube, it just feels like a time waste. If anyone gossipssomething like "I gossip Evil Steve had pancakes for breakfast", there is no way that is covering for the real gossip. It's obvious they are just joking. Only about half at best of the gossips are legitimate. That is my point. To me, I would treat it like rules in D&D, pick and choose the ones you like. If it started to bog the game down timewise, i would stop using it or rework it to have maybe a clock of 1 min time period for any gossips each day.
I want to shake sts when they do amnes, Im starting the game now but I really dont think thats gonna be remotely useful, lets see
Ok wow, so u just tell amy whatever u want about her ability lol
I mean if Amy had Bingo-ed her ability it would have been super useful. And even not 100% getting it it helped her start work out the configuration of the Evil team so I would say it was a useful ability.
Also, the ST guiding players towards their Amnesiac abilities is absolutely fair and a nice touch from Jams. Whilst as an ST you don't want to make it too easy for the Amnesiac you also want to make it so that the Amnesiac can have a decent go at guessing their ability