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- Rosie Ruiz was the first woman to cross the finish line at the 1980 Boston Marathon. She celebrated with her gold medal, television cameras capturing her every move. It soon became clear that something was not quite right...
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The fact that the CHAMPION runner met her years later, and just simply shook her head and left, is exactly how you want to deal with these sort of people.
Grey rock method
@@kidrobot. ???
Kudos to her! She wasn't listening to that BS, and luckily few others did.
Are you referring to when Jacqueline Gareau asked her why she did what she did in Boston? If so, she shouldn't have said one word to her.
@@VioletJoy Hey Ruiz approached her first. Either way, Gareau didn't put up with it.
Imagine winning a marathon but being robbed of the glory because someone cheated. How infuriating must that have been.
She got her medal
@@everythingpony
She didn't. She merely got the title, because Rosie refused to give up the medal that she didn't earn.
@@everythingponyRegardless, that moment of pride and all of the international love and recognition that the real winner would have experienced crossing the finish line was stolen. Getting an award in the mail doesn't mean much.
@@midnalazuli793 Surely they just gave her another winning medal? Like there can't be only one gold medal in existence?
@@ipperz12
I mean, there was only one 1980 Boston Marathon.
Huge respect to the race director who was hesitant because he wanted to be SURE he had enough concrete evidence, public opinion aside, guilty or not. That sort of shit isn't even practiced in court a lot of the time these days, let alone in public scandals.
Agreed. I want guilty people to get caught, but only after due process. I don't want anyone to be labelled guilty without enough evidence, no matter how guilty they are. And considering how much the justice system makes a mockery of "presumption of innocence", and outright encourages the general public to take that same attitude, I have deep respect for anyone who bucks that trend and tries to do these things properly. Even if he was motivated more by face-saving than justice, the diligence is commendable.
@@NoriMori1992, agreed wholeheartedly!
He just did that because he was worried about the reputation of the marathon
Wow talk about projection. Trump lost to Biden, get over it
Exactly. He needs all that evidence because society automatically believes crying women unless there's overwhelming evidence saying otherwise. And even then, there will still be simps who disregard the facts either way.
How is no one mentioning the fact that she only got a week of jail time for embezzling thousands of dollars and then only 3 years probation for running a drug ring? This women got off light for all her wrong doing that’s probably why she is the way she is, she’s never faced any sort of consequences which is even more disgusting.
They go into that around 16 minutes in.
Sounds about white.
"'Running' a drug ring" I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!
@@jenniferdaniels2413 I know I meant no one in comments mentioning it.
Then died peacefully though 66 is still young 🤷🏾♀️
Imagine being a fully grown adult and doing this. It's like a 7 year old child cheating at monopoly.
Really not comparable at all to a seven year (a small child) cheating at a board game played at home with family / friends. This is FAR more serious. There are far many more implications. It pushed one woman who actually ran the NYC race out of running for the Boston marathon. It was extremely immoral behavior. Seven year old’s, however, indeed lie & get frustrated with games. It may be annoying but natural & a lesson to teach not to lie.
Bruh I'm 24 & when my siblings and i all play monopoly. I'm still cheating 🤣
Marathon was a big deal back then.
If you dont cheat, you are not trying hard enoughI...lol ( Joe Montana)
Yeah so bizarre!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Her running form alone is proof she didn’t finish in first
Plus her yellow t-shirt had little to no sweat marks on it.
thought the same
@Have A Fresca I don’t think the cellulite comment is fair, even people who are toned and muscular can still have visible cellulite. That’s a genetic thing.
@@gabriellegay4097 I know what you're saying, but the point is that she doesn't pass the eyeball test. Looking at her form, clothing and body, none of it says "top tier athlete". I understand the issues of commenting on women's bodies, but that caliber of athlete simply will not maintain cellulite the way you're describing. The training for endurance events is just too rigorous. There simply aren't oversized people competing at the highest levels of running for this reason.
Absolutely. Especially when you see it next to actual runners.
9:12 “She must have very good training”. I can only imagine what was going through her head when she said that. The level of self control is honestly incredible
She must have had a really sad life to need validation like that
That's a bit too conclusitory to blame this all on her upbringing. She had head injuries a factor that could not only cause overall physical problems but also mental and emotional health issues. A brain injury may even cause personality changes and negative traits. It's no excuse for her behavior but her doctors should have caught this knowing she had probable brain injury.
I mean did you watch the video?
@@blackdog1153 brain problems is no excuse? For cheating. Oh brother give me a break. She didn't murder a thousand people. Brain problems most definitely can be an excuse for something like this.
Nah… just saw the opportunity to cheat the dumb ass people around her. So easy
@@blackdog1153'conclusitory', eh?
Homegirl should have went for 6th place instead of winning the whole damn thing. No one would have given her cheating a second thought.
That’s the funny thing, had she not been on the first 4 places she would have gone unnoticed for quite a while
Nah she should have committed and beat the men as well
That was the beauty of this lie. She had no intention of being 1st place and her lack of preparation completely blew up in her face. 😂
You don’t get medals for 6th place. If she’s gonna cheat go all out.
6th is still world class though 6th place when there's over 400 contestants would still get noticed. 1st place just turned into a huge story that even non runners knew about vs just being a cheat in the runners community.
I've read that some pathological liars would rather die/kill than admit they're lying. It's unreal how much value they place on something that doesn't exist.
Shades of George Santos …..
Sounds like politicians
Can confirm I’m one.
I swear, you talking about my ex!!
@@helixator3975 Or a certain former president.
It's not just that she cheated, it's how *_belligerent_* she was about it. Angrily insisting she didn't cheat, insulting others who reported her, etc.
Are we just glossing over the fact that this absolute sociopath and a criminal spent only a week in prison for fraud and drug dealing? WTF?! People are serving life sentences for a fraction of her crimes...
people serve way more than that for using drugs...
@@sankara5everthey're serving more than life sentences? 😅
I think you misread his comment. I agree tho especially California with that three strikes law.
She is a white woman fyi
Women and men get same sentences for the same crimes.... right?
That's because she's white and privileged
What sucks the most is that 2nd place lost all her shine at the finish line. Yes she ended up getting the win eventually, but it was after Ruiz got all the initial cheers and fanfare
Ikr, the girl was cheated from her victory cheer.
Edit: Personally I wouldn't even want the medal after something like that. I would just write that race off completely. But maybe that's just me.
yah nobody can take that minutes of fame back from the cheater.If only she could enjoy it,I would not,I would feel like everyone knows it.
The only good thing about it, is people are still talking about this. The rightful winner’s name will live on in history and on TH-cam-type documentaries, as the story is retold.
But yes, she was absolutely robbed. Just incredible gall.
Now you I understand the issue with newly transitioned women in women’s sports
Real winners do not care if they win or loose. They work very hard for themselves and not for fame, glory or publicity. Real winners enjoy carrying the experience of winning for the rest of their lives. Glory and fame is meaningless. The opposite apply to losers.
Ppl are crazy. I once had a co-worker that cheated during a friendly inner office Fitbit challenge. No prize for winning, no money, just friendly bragging rights. Despite this coworker being overweight and walking with a cane, she somehow was able to record running 35 miles a day. It became a huge office scandal that I found hilarious 😂 like why cheat?
Bahahahaha this is hilarious!
@@samalyy hahaha True f’n story lol I wish I was kidding. What made it even more ridiculous was to see all the super fit, super athletic 20 somethings in the company stroll in every morning to check the leaderboard only to see that this 50 year old obese lady with a cane was lapping them 😂
@@franknacc1718 how does cheating make anything more fun? When there's always and only that same person winning over and over and over
@@franknacc1718 you lack confidence that’s why u cheat
Maybe she.put it in her car tire!! 😅
In a strange way, Rosie cheating ended up doing something good. While i despise giving cheats credit, her cheating ended up making things stricter much earlier on. The methods would update over time, thus making it harder for anyone to even try to pull a fast one
Even with that said, I still refuse to give her any credit beyond helping the Marathon in the long run, even if she made a mockery of it at the time
Heh. "Helping the Marathon" "In the LONG run" *no pun intended*
Absolutely untrue. All of these things took years and were mainly due to tech advances. I was around when the first electronic chips were being implemented. There were some competing entrepreneurs trying to introduce the Tech.. It had nothing to do with this incident.
Just because a guy reads wiki and then makes a video does not mean you’re getting accurate or valid narratives.
Can you imagine training for an event like this for months or years and you get to the finish line and someone else cheated you out of your special moment?
Happens to legitimate women all the time now that men have been allowed to dress up as them and compete in their exclusive competitions.
that would be funny as f 😂😂😂
I feel, for the actual winner, Jacqueline Gareau of the Boston Marathon. Her glory and praise were stolen by that subway riding cheater. That can never be replaced, and it actually makes me really pissed. Ruiz should have been stripped of that gold medal. The lack of integrity is just disgusting. Shame on her through the grave. Pathetic!
They didn’t prove it
She was stripped of the medal. She just refused to return it.
@@paleo704 are you related to the cheater? Or did you comment without watching the video?
My wife asks me why I am so obsessed with this story. That is why. The real winner only won the Boston Marathon once, and she was denied the experience of the winning feeling. I've never won a race bigger than 200 runners, and I would've felt weird not having everyone clap for me at the end.
@@small_joys2022 LOL!! He and that Rodriguez guy are doubling down on their defense of this bint.
*The fact she had a friend who also cheated in a marathon to defend her is exactly why she would lie to save her own a$$, instead of being truthful.*
Victimizing others then trying to shame people for victim shaming her. She was truly ahead of her time
ikr🤣
What I don't get about Ruiz is how could she not know about intervals and splits if she even did a modest amount of personal preparation for both the New York and Boston marathons.
If indeed she was a runner in high school and had done running as an adult then she wasn't completely ignorant of running in general .
Yet when she got interviewed by Kathryn Switzer after the race, she came off as if she knew nothing of running races.
Something was deeply wrong with this woman.
This is the part I don’t get. I JUST started 5k training and you can’t avoid terms like interval training or splits if you are taking it semi serious.
She wasn't that committed clearly, if she started feeling gassed at eight miles then what was she doing in training? Obviously not running long distances, you can't mess up that early on in a marathon and say you've taken it seriously. Anyone can call themselves a runner.
@@misspapo3444 I never knew what splits were for a while but I also didn't try to cheat Mo Farah haha
She was always a cheater. She just got comfortable getting away with it and got lazy.
Not sure is it because of the lack of internet at that time, I am surprised she does not even know what timing is considered good and what is average.
Shoutout to Will Cloney, the Boston Marathon Director, for his professionalism and ethics. He did not jump to conclusions, and made sure that all of the evidence was clear before taking away Rosie's "win".
That's not true at all ... Rosie was right about one thing, the media attention this was getting would undoubtedly bring more people to the sport. Will Cloney knew that too, so he let it drag on a bit to build the suspense.
And to be fair, he's the director, so that's probably the smart thing to do. Make no mistake though, every dinner runner in that race knew she was lying.
how much dumber can he be...
No one should be lauded here ... everyone had ulterior motives. And don't call her Rosie, call her THE CHEATING SCUM
@@topspot4834 hey man, just arrived from Stupid Town?
No! Cloney was a woke rat ahead of his time! Despite all the evidence he refused to admit this biatch had cheated, he should be eternally ashamed of himself!
I’m only 2 minutes in but I wonder if she was like this before all of her brain trauma or afterwards? I’m stating the obvious but brain trauma can cause a person’s personality to completely change. So it would be interesting to see how it impacted her behavior going forward.
It would be, but most of the responses are just "this woman is inherently evil" even after all of that setup. I feel a little bad for her, since if she had a better upbringing or different health, she might not have done this.
@@melasnexperience she's not a bad person she just fucked the system she's a genius
I was wondering the same thing. People that have experienced traumatic brain injury have killed people when before they were nice regular people. It would be interesting to hear from people that knew her before. Not an excuse but an explanation. Maybe she was a little like this before but the injury exasperated it.
@@virus3run20I’m so tired of this culture of calling cheating clever or genius. Stfu.
@@SuperYtc1 Buddy its not that deep. We can confirm you're not a genius
This is the most complete coverage of this story I've ever come across! Many thanks
"We missed her at all the checkpoints"
She was so lame, just a dishonest person in all she did.
It always blows my mind when someone thinks that they deserve something, that they didn't earn or didn't work for, more than the people who did. I can't wrap my head around that level of entitlement.
Influencers
Congrats! You're not a useless, pos shlub of a narcissistic parasitic pos. Feel proud.
Influencers.
I mean, she worked for the New York marathon. It just wasn’t enough. It’s sad she didn’t understand is okay that it wasn’t enough, and there’s always next time. But no, not for this chick. Jeez.
Indeed. I may be able to walk/jog/run between 3-4 miles in a day, but I very much doubt I could finish a marathon, let alone win it. Moreover, I volunteer at a weeklong summer camp for pediatric cancer patients/survivors and their siblings, and the camp offers Polar Bear patches to those who participate in the morning Polar Bear swim for four days. One of my co-counselors this year offered to give me his patch from last year (I'd missed camp due to undergoing chemo), and I told him that it wouldn't mean anything to me as I hadn't earned it.
She is a classic example of people who are narcissistic. For them attention, accolade and validation fuel them in everything they do.
When I followed this story as a junior high student I had heard Rosie Ruiz's name mentioned over and over. Yet, I heard NO mention of the name of the REAL women's division winner of the 1980 Boston Marathon in the news reports I had watched. All they showed was Mlle. Gareau being crowned with the winner's laurels at a press conference WITHOUT stating her name. It would be a very long while before I knew the identity of Jacqueline Gareau as the women's champion of the 1980 Boston Marathon. Weird, isn't that?
Well i mean its a marathon from 40- 50yrs ago. W/o the controversy no one would remember results AT ALL. Thats just humans and passage of time
The fact that she didnt run again after that scandal proved that she somehow admited that she cheats she knew that the security will be a lot strict and more people will be watching her every move making it impossible for her to ride a subway again
Lololololololololololololololol....that's how she won?! Lololololol
It is not a crime to ride the subway if you pay your fare!
@@justanotherguy469 Actually yes it is a crime to ride the subway unless you are pre-approved by city council and have a special permit to ride. You can only acquire one of these permits to ride the subway if you are rich and make a very generous "donation" to the city, you yourself are a city council member or a member of that state or city's government, you save the life of a council member, you own your own successful business and thats pretty much it. I know there are a couple other ways but those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. If you are just a random, nobody, citizen working a 9-5 and you sneak onto the subway you WILL be arrested and face up to 34 years in prison for this felony.
@@mikeawesome9212 Yeah, but she paid her fare.
@@justanotherguy469 no one said it was, and who asked?
A narcissist will never believe they are wrong. They actually believe their own lies.
Narcissist never believe their own lies. But they will never admit to them even if you show them proof they will double down because they think if they do people will believe them.
She definitely fits that description. She reminds me of those mothers who fake illnesses in their children just so they can get attention and free stuff. Absolutely no shame.
FERDINAND MARCOS SR. AND HIS SPOILED BRAT SON AND DAUGHTER AND GRANDCHILDREN ALL FITS THAT DESCRIPTION.
How it works with narcs, is the more they tell their version, then it becomes truth. Initially and always they do know they are lying, they are just narcissistic enough to believe they have fooled others.
@@beatnikmary She reminds me of every Millennial and Zoomer on earth. The most narcissistic, lazy and dishonest generations in entire history of the human race. Obsessed with fame but don't want to work for it.
This is a great channel and you have a wonderful narrating voice. Your pieces are short, 16, yet full of interesting facts rarely included in much longer videos about the same subjects.
Jeez, she cheated the Boston marathon, embezzled $60 grand, and started a coke ring in Miami, got caught each time, and just got a week in jail? If she murdered someone, she'd probably get 12 hours community service.
Who knows, maybe she did murder someone, but got away with it.
Sooo cheating in sport is bigger crime than murder???
WTF are you talking about.
Yeah she cheat...so what.
There are people cheating in games every single minute....so they are worst that killers huh?
@@giannisksanthopoulos4300He never said that.
He said that she kept getting away with light punishments and sentences for her crimes.
The sentences for her later crimes being so light for the charges, it would make people think she could commit a much, much more serious crimes and still get a minor sentence. It has nothing to do with the earlier cheating scandal or others, it's about a person that commited crimes years later and got little to no punishment for said crimes.
I read a success story, up to the part when she gets caught.
@@giannisksanthopoulos4300you don't seem to understand, a shame you seemed an honest man.
how does one "jump off the race route" with so many people watching and they have cars and cameras watching the leading folks, its insane she was able to pull this off twice
I imagine hundreds of people quit mid race so it would look normal.
We also need to remember, because it's easily forgotten: In 1980.. practically speaking... we didn't have cameras the way we use them today. Yes, obviously, cameras existed. But today, with digital, we use cameras to document everything and ANYTHING, without giving it a second thought. At this time, very, very few people had home video camcorders, or they may have had a Super 8 film camera. Either way, it was cumbersome, expensive, and actual time you had to film was very limited. We can assume a lot of people had film cameras for stills, but, same thing: people were choosy about what they took a picture of, because processing film was expensive. (Also, unlike today, most people DIDN'T have a camera on them) Nobody was wasting film on some rando giving up on the race part-way through. And, she probably jumped back in far too quickly for anyone to react with a camera. (And far back enough from the finish line that the news cameras didn't capture her) Obviously, today its completely different and trying to cheat this brazenly would be impossible, even without trackers. Hell, now we would expect surveillance cameras on the Metro. 🤳
it’s also quite common to have sections of a marathon/race that are pretty sparse on spectators due to the topography/lack of space for spectators
Lots of runners bail at random times, so it's fairly normal to see people in gear who have tapped out.
Different times
Many thanks for putting this together, was news to me 👍🍻
What an annoying woman. She could’ve admitted she cheated but that would take accountability, something most criminals never consider.
The fact that she went on that show the following day and did an interview as a champion is insane. She actually went on air to defend the absurdity that she shaved TWENTY SIX minutes off her run time between the NYC and Boston marathons. 🤦🏼♂️
women
@@m.a.4949you forgot the ☕
She had no idea how hard it was to gain an extra minute or 10.
She had brain damage.
"uhhh what's an interval?"
Why would she EVER confront the woman she actually cheated?!? What did she think she was going to say to her?!!! 😳🤯😳🤯
a subconscious need for forgiveness maybe?
@@evansusmc I think you misread the comment friend
@@evansusmc he said "I think you misread the comment friend"
@@mikeespinoza5733 nope, narcissism
@@evansusmc haha yeah what he said^ :)
Kudos to the boston marathon organiser for being so thorough with his investigation.
If it wasn't for literally everyone else he wouldn't have done anything, dragged his feet
“We missed her at all our checkpoints.” How was that not the realization?
The taxi cab drivers don't go past the checkpoints probably
What?
@@NoriMori1992 I quoted the reporter. “We missed her at all our checkpoints.” How was that not the realization that she cheated?
Exactly. Surely that’s the point of checkpoints
Yea, but it wasn’t as sophisticated as it is today, with technology, etc.
I’m glad the director took his time and due diligence to disqualify her.
More like he was reluctant to accept that a cheater succeeded. It would damage the race's legitimacy and reputation
@similingun7985 no, finding it out and saying something is respectable. Saying nothing and others finding out would be the worse situation
If she was a white male she would have been DQ’ed on the spot.
An immigrant,lesbian,cancer survivor,Hispanic woman will get the benefit of the doubt . Wouldn’t want to offend anyone you know.🤷♂
@@Shalyn-ln9tu Yeah but there’s a difference between everyone finding out that cheating took place (smearing the name of the marathon) or not acknowledging it and a few people muttering “cheater” under their breath. Especially back then. While the director absolutely did the right thing, it was definitely a risk admitting they had crowned a cheater and openly puts it out there that people can cheat in this thing and win.
@@TitaniumTurbine I don't think you understood my comment. It's way more of a risk to keep quite and finding out later that they cheated and did nothing about it. A person's win will be under review, which is why they, mentioned in the video, didn't give an immediate metal.
Not knowing what intervals are I think its safe to say she lied about running in school amongst are her other lies. Seems her whole life she's been a criminal
Agreed, A delusional one at that
This video was gas bro thank you frfr
That female reporter knew right away
Damn, she got off basically free from every crime she committed.
She should have been deported.
@@Ricobaca she shouldn't have been allowed to come here, in the first place.
Female privilege
She's a woman, little to no repucussions most of the time.
Well is it a crime if it was never stipulated in the rules of running that you can't take a train to the finish line?
As a marathoner I've always known about Rosie but you do a great job of telling this story in a concise even handed way. I didn't know about her background including the cheating on the NYC marathon. The follow you do after her infamy was interesting as well. You did such a good job with this video that I ended up binging on all your others. Great job and congratulations on this channel.
Wow! Talk about breaking bad! Start out cheating in a marathon... end up starting your very own cocaine ring down in south beach! Entrepreneurial spirit!! Lol
Does the narrators voice change. Cause I really wanted to listen to this story as a marathoner, but dear buddha my ears couldn’t take the monotony. If someone else talks or the inflection moves I’ll give it another go. 🤮
This is the first time that I’ve heard about this story and I laughed with disgust when I heard that she got on a Subway. 😮
@@pleasedroses3811 dang it I didn’t make it that far. Maybe I’ll try it with just subtitles and no sound.
@@EdgarAllanGothe voice is just fine. You’re weird.
I had never heard of this story before, Its just so bizarre. Thanks for covering it.
This was very well done, nice work!
She was treated with such privileged sentences for being a cheater, a thief & a drug dealer!!
That's what I was thinking! I kept hearing "probation" over and over again like WHAT??
That female privalge is something ain't it
women regularly get lighter or no sentences. welcome to the modern world.
She was a loser all around.
The answer is right at the first word, "She"
A really slap in the face when most of the pro marathoners running for top 10 or something and you saw the interview and only heard "idk what intervals is, well what is intervals?"
A huge insult to every marathoners out there.
And the fact she's a repeat offender on many things such as embezzlement, fraud and even drug deals is really absurdly impressive how the fact that she keeps a straight face telling us she won.
skinny pro's what a joke
she has just outsmarted all of you.
Great respect to her
@@juri2001 she outsmarted nobody.
I'm not even too sure why there was a need for a back story concerning the fact that she hit her head. Once you can think precisely and repeat specific choice behaviors, there's really no excuse for ones behavior. Being able to plot, plan and execute means that you're well aware of what you're doing.
This was long before the internet and information wasn’t widely available, unless you read athletic literature or were in clubs you wouldn’t know jargon like this
Love your videos so different than other videos I have seen!
Damn man... really interesting story, and really well told. Good video
I THINK IF SHE HAD COME SECOND THERE WOULD BE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Yeah, because unless you're number one, nobody cares who comes second, and so on. Right?
Second don’t come with nothing. Unfortunately she’s a US immigrant and she saw the gold and attempted to grab it by any means necessary when she knew she didn’t deserve it but she went ahead knowing that she could not do the 26 miles
@@omathitis8498 well the world has become like this ,moreover in this case that renowned runner was such a favourite that people were really shocked that someone beat her , the suspicion grew because of this
I doubt it because of the talented underdogs
Yueahb more believable
I ran my first 5k last month and what astonished me the most was the informal group of about a dozen persons whom I was within close range for almost the entire duration of the course. We became familiar faces and bodies pacing forward even crossing the finish line one after the other. It felt familiar and comfortable and really put into perspective teamwork (by existence) even though we functioned solely. I can't begin to imagine the cognitive dissonance felt by the runners who actually performed. For my next race I look forward exactly to that wholesome experience.
I did my first 10k pacing a guy towards the end, we chatted away until the last 200 yards when he put a sprint on and left me 😂 I’m not mad at him I just though we’ll played sir!
And if you had run any less you would be very close indeed too close for comfort for some folks
Hey, congrats on your first 5k!
@@birch5757 what is a 5K? And I'm not looking for the answer 5 less than a 10K, Which is 6K less than a 16k. Which is not even half of a marathon. So what are we talkin about walking out to the garbage cans. Or walking to the kitchen.
@@eugenediaz4386 what's your point? I was just telling someone great job on completion of their first 5k. Everyone has to start somewhere
And it's roughly 3.1 miles.
Loved the vid, great job
Excellent video. Thanks.
The thing that gets me the most is that she could have just dropped out of Boston early and said something like "just a bad race" or "ankle pain" or literally anything else, and it would have been relatively believable. Even pros drop out of marathons early if they don't meet their expected splits, or an old injury is bugging them, etc. But she doubled down for absolutely no reason in the most ridiculous way lol.
Then you don't get it at all. This video makes it sound like she was pressured into this and just couldn't compete. There was no pressure, she wanted to scam. She didn't want to try, she wanted to be a winner.
@@promontorium ...huh? no it doesn't make it sound like she was pressured at all LOL, she was for sure a scammer.
The video is making that up they have no idea what she was thinking or anything like that.
If she had gone for 7th or 8th place instead of 1st she might have been able to get away with it.
@@thealiceuh No, the video did mention how people around her celebrated her NY marathon performance and how her boss even helped fund her trip to Boston. So there was an aspect in this video talking about the pressures for her. I think what promontorium is saying is that your comment makes it clear that she had an easy way out of social pressure was the only thing she was worried about, meaning that she cheated to steal glory and positive attention, not just to cover her own ass
This is particularly disheartening because of how hard it was for women to be taken seriously as long distance runners, or to even be allowed compete in marathons at all. Way to drag us all down, Ruiz. 😤
Oh please don't make it a feminist thing.🙄
Liars always stain those who are doing something for real ☹️
I mean, the people who didn't want them in seem to have been justified. Maybe they had the right idea.
@@murrayshekelberg9754lol pathetic troll dude, only got two likes and no attention
Get over it women are slow
Imagine living a life of lies and not making amends when given the chance.
"Both good and bad liars are never champions. the difference is, the other is because of choice and strategy and the other is because of justice and stupidity"
-my grandma
I was like how do you cheat at this? Steroids? No. She dipped off the running path and took a train to the end. WOW lol
If she used steroids, I would still respect her, at least she would actually make the effort to do the run, instead of using the train lol
@@nodinitiative yeah like I was expecting this super complex plan, she beat a steroid test doin this, and she did this. No, she just jumped into the bushes and out onto the street and took the train lmfao.
I feel for the person that came second no one will ever remember who actually won only the person that cheated
I want to know how much planning went into it? Where exactly did she hop out of the race and why did she choose to hop out there? How did she navigate/travel so efficiently from where she hopped out/back in to the race? Did she carry money on her for rail/T fare? I’d love to hear theories on the finer details!
Really like your channel! Thanks!
Even though the tale is filled with twists and turns, I keep coming back to the fact that if she'd actually waited and joined the course a little later she would have completely gotten away with it. Think about all the things that would have cascaded from that- her boss would have been thrilled, she would have touted it for the rest of her life, and her obituary would make note of it. I realize (or hope) that people like her aren't very common, but I have to wonder....how many OTHER people do I meet in an average year, who carefully took note of the other runners before sneaking (metaphorically) onto the course for various achievements or windfalls in their life?
No because she would never be able to prove it again
Maybe smaller races but definitely not modern major races like Boston. Technology has come a long way and tracks every runners performance.
@@vzone1377 What?
I think you’re right, there are definitely other cheaters out there. I have a friend who’s a cheater in life. Or at least he attempts to. He failed at reaching his life goals so he lies through his teeth any chance he gets to make himself look good.
Cheating in a footrace. What a strange decision to make.
I've ran over 13 marathons and 6 Boston's with my best time being 2:21:45 and it was hell to get my time this low. But when you run a marathon, you make friends and really get to know the runners in your pack through out the race as they pull you along. Runner's would constantly call out times and what time goals they are looking for to be in that pack. It was classic that she knew nothing about anyone she ran with or about running, clothing, shoes or training workouts.
Wait how do you get to know people? You guys can talk and run and that pace
They are very short winded conversations, it’s not like you’re sitting down and having coffee.
@@ProfessorDisaray no coffee? How rude.
I once ran the Bath Half marathon and was near the guy running in a full bikers leather outfit. It was a hot day so he was squeaking with every step. Very disheartening to see him kick in the last quarter and leave me behind. You are right, even when runners are just in normal kit, you get to know your surrounding runners, you know who is in front, and who is behind
Did she even run in school? Is there evidence attesting to that? If you do not know what intervals are, you have never left your sofa.
The woman was a pathological liar.
The positive part of this is the precautions put in place for this to not happen again. She has improved the system with her cheating
The crying was her attempting to manipulate people through feeling sorry for her. Evil psychopath that she was. And narcissistic.
I ran half marathon in 2018 and it gave me such a sense of accomplishment on crossing the finish line. Faking it would feel to empty! Can’t understand narcissists.
if lying is all u know then it seems just logical
Congrats on the accomplishment. Marathons (full or half) require a lot of dedication.
I can't believe someone still employed her post scandal. Then she ended up stealing from them.
I can’t believe she got her estate agent license after being convicted of stealing money from her employer
Wow no shocker there
a scammer through and through
This is why education on narcissism is of utmost importance.
She was a liar and a cheater, but far from delusional. She knew what she was doing and she understood the consequences... she just didn't care.
Knowingly cheating because you think you’re too good for the rules is pretty delusional.
@@erinbeaud4556 She was not delusional. She understood what she was doing, she just did not care. Delusional is when you don't understand, but she did.
You don't know that. I don't think you're a psychologist, and even if you were you can hardly presume to diagnose whether someone's delusional without even meeting them.
I have to think some of this was caused by her skull trauma. Imagine make such an utter fool of yourself and cheating a fellow woman out of her well-earned victory. Then when she's caught, she doubles down, and goes right back to her old ways of skimming money. A complete and utter embarrassment of a human being.
There are millions of other people who’ve gone through brain cancer that don’t go on to lie about winning a marathon lol
The lack of accountability is over the moon from this woman
Simps are responsible in one way or another
I like your picture.
She's literally nuts 😂😂😂
Thank you, I laughed so hard watching this story 😂😂 Can Hollywood make a movie out of her life story, but make it a comedy? Or dark comedy. The material is there! 🤣
Ikr!😂
Bad idea. Hollywood surely will push a color, non binary, empowered female protagonist and then it will be way wrong if you laugh at her. And the comedy suddenly will turns into a drama about personal growing and overcoming difficulties and Rosie will end being revindicated. So, no thanks. 😂
It feels a lot like "Can you ever forgive me" which was actually a fantastic film. A dark comedy/drama about a real conwoman.
That said, while it was excellent, it didn't make a lot of money.
@@asadabdulqaabir4006 Wtf are you talking about.
really good video!
What a piece of work she was! Amazing video as well.
Didn't know the part about the car accident and tumor. Adds more depth to the story than I knew. Also didn't know about her high school running history-- by far the most detailed (and at least somewhat sympathetic) account. Well done presentation.
Seems like those brain surgeries F'ked up her head..cocaine dealing? Jesus christ
No excuse
She lied about EVERYTHING in her life. She made up the car accident and tumor.
He said "Chuma" 🤣
Phineas Gage
She probably had 0 validation growing up and needed this to give her a reason. Pretty sad.
I love how she was frantically wiping her invisible tears 😂
Great video found it on Reddit. Great breakdown too. I’ve seen other videos about her but not one so in depth with her past and life after the races. Great job!
Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Agreed, well done.
Needs the Netflix treatment for real...that b was gangster
What a fascinating story! You did an awesome job presenting this story. I never heard of this lady so I was glued to my phone. Keep up the good work!👏🏿👏🏿
Same here.
And he presented it beautifully.
I remember seeing an interview with Rodgers (20th anniversary I think) and they showed him sitting at the banquet table after he won, and the look of surprise on his face when Ruiz showed up was incredible. She cheated too well.
My mom's neighbor was a spectator at this Boston Marathon & in 2013. My mom often said that she was a harbinger of crazy events at the marathon.
9:35 - I had to stop and look into that photo. She was being attacked for running a race that even medical practitioners felt couldn't be completed by a woman. The men behind the attacker was her bf and her coach. The bf decked him (good for him), and she vowed she was crossing that line even if she had to CRAWL.
TLDR: Katherine Switzer is awesome. That is all...
Wow, that's crazy
I thought that image looked familiar! One absolutely iconic woman. And then there’s this cheating weirdo 😒
Okay but an “eyewitness” who saw her over a year prior for five minutes on a subway is not the most credible witness, in my opinion. Other than that, this was a very interesting story
Do you even pay attention? They also walked together towards the finish area.
I don't get how she got off so lightly from all those crimes.
Put out for the judge or prosecution.
I always found this story ridiculously funny! This stuff is all we had before world's dumbest criminals 😂
I couldn't stop laughing at some points of this video 😂 people are nuts
as a runner what is the actual point in cheating? your only cheating yourself. # onlyrunnersknow
Yeah, there's absolutely no sense of achievement from doing that, which is what it's about
Prestige and money (sponsorships).
nope. All athletes know. Not only runners.
Was there a cash prize? Thats the only thing I can think of......
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Ahh, if only this man had a podcast. I'd kill to listen to these at work.
Problem with small lies is they become big lies. No matter how deep you are in a lie, it's always better for you long-term to come clean instead of digging deeper.
You're a great story teller, very easy to listen to with good information. Thanks for showing a lot of old footage as well!
Of all the videos on Rosie Ruiz on you tube Ive seen, this one strikes me as the most detailed and packed with information on Ruiz and the race. Quite good.
Thanks for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed
Great video
Once a liar and a cheater, always a liar and a cheater.
The marathon is not based on an ancient Greek myth, it is based on the battle of Marathon and a runner who ran from Marathon to Athens to announce the victory
Yanks man. I lol’d when he said the Boston marathon is the most famous marathon in the world. 🤣 Americans think the world ends at their border.
Wasn't a victory it was to announce important information of an incoming army
@@ayajade6683 godamn everybody wrong
which was believed to be an exaggeration
Nike!
I gotta admit. This lady has lived an adventurous life.
Admit nothing! Her only accomplishment was living a liars life!
She was just a liar and scammer lol
@@olderthanyoucali8512 Why you yelling? Did she pass you in a race somewhere? Lol
She seems like a funny person frankly
@@HOULWOODyou spelled "evil" in a strange way.
Why does this sound like it was written by chatgpt
Once she was committed to deceive there was no going back, no confessions, no admission of guilt. She took it to her grave.
wtf she boarded the train? hahaha 😂😂😂😂
I was expecting steroids or some kind of shit not fricking train 😅
@@Manfrommars808 hahahahhahahaa
@@ellietv2958I mean. It’s hilarious 😂 that someone can cheat like this 😂
What struck me at the beginning is how she was affording to be a single woman living in Downtown Manhattan on an administrative assistant salary. “She stole $1500 from her aunt…” Oh. 😅
🤣🤣
Imagine all the shit she did and didn’t get caught as well.
Back in them days downtown Manhattan was a crap hole and the money had way more worth. You could live well on $400 a week.
Rent in NYC during the 60’s and 70’s were dirt cheap. Most of the middle class moved to the suburbs.
Manhattan used to be a lot cheaper to live in. My mom was a single working mother, we lived poor, but ok. I didn't know how poor we really were. Lol