I'm gonna be honest- reading her kit for the first time, I expected to have to manual her for her kit to work from the way it was worded. It seems intended to me and I kinda like how it is.
I think this is kinda intended. It makes sense. She is in the reload animation, she bursts which gives her unlimited ammo, which kinda counts as a reload so she loses the overheat. I do wish she doesn't lose the overheat. I just want units to work to their fullest with auto. The only ones I'm fine with manual are snipers and RLs to give a high skill ceiling for people who want to do that
Tldr is when autoing Grave (letting AI do her), you will lose 1.25 seconds of 20% atk and 30% attack damage uptime every full burst rotation (12-13 seconds) on her which means a slight DPS loss on her personal damage. You want to be on her right before you burst with her and be in shooting position so this doesn't happen
Can you do a video on who to skill reset now? I hear people say Grave powercreeps Mari and S. Rosanna and if that's true then their skill materials would be nice to have while we are in the period for skill reset. Thanks for analysis.
@@yknowhazyBasically, starting from level 201, you get an extra bump in stat increase more than usual every 20 levels, like instead of getting 1% every level, you get 2% at 201, 221, 241,... (I don't remember the specific numbers)
@@yknowhazy past level 200 every 20 levels there's a bump in the next level and how much stats it gives you then it goes back to each level being whatever they were before it's like every 20 pulls you suddenly get an extra 10 pulls to put it in another way.
So one copy or worth to mlb? My pulls this anni have been on rate sadly. 65 multis with 6 copies. No pulls left so got to dip into the tickets. 2k golden mileages left and I really just want to save them tbh.
That's not a bug, that's intended. Overheat 1 has infinite duration and only dispels when you reload to max ammo. The reload ratio helps by reloading less ammo, so you're not reloading to max ammo, so you can keep the buff if you play it right. Overheat 1 also rolls over when you burst, it doesn't dispel, so if you play it right, you can actually max out skill 2 in burst every rotation. Thanks to the burst gen in Skill 1, you don't need to reload much, just reload 15/30 ammo and start shooting, you will eventually burst and keep going, rinse repeat. I also rather you give her hit rates than crit damage. as AR unit, her accuracy is moderate but if your want her to DPS and targets are mid to long range, hit rate is the better stats to hit core.
Crit damage is more consistent, you have to keep in mind not every enemy will have a core, in which case hit rate becomes a dead stat. 4x crit damage OLs is approximately 50% crit damage, which is half of the core hit multiplier. 4x hit rate multiplier will also give you approximately 50% hit rate. Basically, half or more of your shots have to be core hits to overtake crit damage, and that is dependent on how close or far the boss is. If the boss is far, even 50% hit rate wont get you 50% core shots, and hit rate doesnt help at all against coreless ones. Overall, crit damage is just more consistent and isnt much worse in terms of damage ceiling.
What you say makes sense but it requires so much manual play it's detrimental. Most players play on auto. And if playing manual is usually with snipers like Alice. Having to babysit grave like this is so annoying.
@@KeijiMaeda86I'm saying manual Grave for SR/UR. I don't manual Snipers/RL, I prefer manual others. And if I really do auto in other game modes, I would rather have Crown in B2 pos than Grave. Either way, I'm guessing auto AI for Grave, it waits for Grave to reload to full to shoot. At this point, just wait for adjustments.
performancewise, she's not worth the 1% pull rate. should have been 2% imo (not game changer like Cindy, has no gacha skin and she's far from replacing Crown). She works with certain teams alright but compared to other burst 2 the competition is hard for her and she might quickly be put aside if another OP burst 2 gets released.
Bruh anything that has a strong niche in teams for solo raid like grave here for instance is "worth it" mainly to anyone in top 3% and top 100. Like any other banner there's no real reason to pull any Nikke unless competing for top in scores in SR or just want BOOBA. Both fair reasons dependent on player
Definitely unintended bug. There's probably a check that goes on where "if reloading" AND "if current ammo goes above Max Ammo" lose overheat. Technically she swaps weapons and ammo is unlimited, but based on Snow White Innocent Days, her main magazine actually gets refilled completely. It's just that after Grave bursts, she loses all magazine so it's hard to tell why. I remember earlier when Modernia released, there were times when I would exit burst and her magazine wasn't full or she had to reload. That's been fixed so there's definitely a full reload that occurs, but if you do it during a shooting animation it fails the "if reloading" check. idk.
It’s more likely a few factors colliding. Don’t attribute malice to what is more likely human stupidity. -Quality assurance in games is notoriously difficult, -They’re pumping out characters every other week, -These pilgrims are uniquely complicated and powerful. -Cinderella’s bugginess gave shift up tunnel vision
as always, will keep on testing tomorrow: www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
Shift up please hire this guy or something for tester position please
hey but then we wouldnt get free gems 🤣🤣
@@abominablesnowman64yeah he is right
why? as long it's not game crashing, let it come out bugged. then let SU fix or adjust it after it's found out. Also more apologems.. lmao
@@Kaimax61 what if they fix it and then it not what you want like summer neon for example xdding
@@kittiponaongtoon9375There was no saving summer neon let's be honest😂
ah great my opinion has arrived
More gems pls Shift Up. And Red Hood rerun as penance.
YES give us redhood reun EDIT: got redhood from the free standard pulls they gave out!!!
Skip the rerun, just give us a few copies of redhood 🎉
I already have Red Hood.... just give us pilgrim selector
"It just works "
-Shift Up, probably
Grave likes Cinderella so much she corrupted herself just to be more like her smh
Like creator like creation
I'm gonna be honest- reading her kit for the first time, I expected to have to manual her for her kit to work from the way it was worded. It seems intended to me and I kinda like how it is.
same, it is intended. don't expect AI to take over a human player
I think this is kinda intended. It makes sense. She is in the reload animation, she bursts which gives her unlimited ammo, which kinda counts as a reload so she loses the overheat.
I do wish she doesn't lose the overheat. I just want units to work to their fullest with auto. The only ones I'm fine with manual are snipers and RLs to give a high skill ceiling for people who want to do that
I dont know what the Nikke community would do without your effort, Sky! amazing work as usual
This is not a Bug, is a Feature.
Should've waited for the SR so we get free resources again LOL.
3rd day of sr then posted it then boom double the reward 😂😂
Raid was closed due to lags and freezes in the fight. Not Cinderella bug.
You born to search bugs In NIkke! Your mom is proud of you!
Could someone explain why this is a bad thing. I stupid, so I'm confused.
Tldr is when autoing Grave (letting AI do her), you will lose 1.25 seconds of 20% atk and 30% attack damage uptime every full burst rotation (12-13 seconds) on her which means a slight DPS loss on her personal damage. You want to be on her right before you burst with her and be in shooting position so this doesn't happen
@@skyjlv Thank you
We are here from stream
Yes sirr
Good job sky!
Beautiful
Grave > Crown for pierce is pretty nice, as suddenly you can move Crown to a different team! Very nice!
(E.g. Grave + Red Hood, Crown + Cinderella)
Can you do a video on who to skill reset now? I hear people say Grave powercreeps Mari and S. Rosanna and if that's true then their skill materials would be nice to have while we are in the period for skill reset. Thanks for analysis.
0 hour gang let's go!
Off topic will you make a new video who is safe to skill reset now that we have a 30day window for it? thanks!
It isn’t a bug, it considers unlimited ammo as max ammo. So you started reloading and then burst in the middle
thanks bro
Lets go
do you plan on making another who to spend your skill resets on for this anniversary?
professional bugtester.
Does anyone know what the level increases are worth past 200? I heard that every some amount of levels theres a 10 level bump?
@@Jose_Doe every 20 lvls the break point goes like this 201 221 241 261 281 301 and keeps going
I just hit lvl 200 last night and i dont understand what you all saying
@tadoti6936 thank you also was I right in the amount of the break levels too (as in every 20 levels the bump is 10 levels or 20 levels worth)
@@yknowhazyBasically, starting from level 201, you get an extra bump in stat increase more than usual every 20 levels, like instead of getting 1% every level, you get 2% at 201, 221, 241,... (I don't remember the specific numbers)
@@yknowhazy past level 200 every 20 levels there's a bump in the next level and how much stats it gives you then it goes back to each level being whatever they were before
it's like every 20 pulls you suddenly get an extra 10 pulls to put it in another way.
Looks unintended, will probably get fixed.
why don't shiftup have someone like you
So one copy or worth to mlb? My pulls this anni have been on rate sadly. 65 multis with 6 copies. No pulls left so got to dip into the tickets. 2k golden mileages left and I really just want to save them tbh.
Don't MLB non-dps characters. Grave is a support
And her kit doesn't have caster atk buff like s.anks, base copy is more than enough. Unless u want min max for SR ranking
She has potential to be DPS. Base copy is enough if you want to keep her support, but if you want to let her do some damage, MLB is good.
2K mileage? You saving for Nikke 2?
@@Unknown-ri5sx yes.
May I ask your thoughts on this setup?
Liter
Grave
Alice
Asuka
Noir
Replace liter with killer wife and noir with modernia
1k of tickets as compensation please
I also felt the weird bug, I felt so unease using her. Got her skills all 7 and fully overload already
So…reset Mari or nah?
no
Yes definitely
I’d say no for now. Wait till after solo raid to decide
I wouldn't reset mari yet, she still has very good usage for solo raid teams
Not yet. She is electric, you'll use her for Behemoth's raid
EH?
🤔
That's not a bug, that's intended. Overheat 1 has infinite duration and only dispels when you reload to max ammo. The reload ratio helps by reloading less ammo, so you're not reloading to max ammo, so you can keep the buff if you play it right. Overheat 1 also rolls over when you burst, it doesn't dispel, so if you play it right, you can actually max out skill 2 in burst every rotation. Thanks to the burst gen in Skill 1, you don't need to reload much, just reload 15/30 ammo and start shooting, you will eventually burst and keep going, rinse repeat.
I also rather you give her hit rates than crit damage. as AR unit, her accuracy is moderate but if your want her to DPS and targets are mid to long range, hit rate is the better stats to hit core.
Doubt they intended for you to aim at nothing like an idiot every time you burst to keep her buff lol
Crit damage is more consistent, you have to keep in mind not every enemy will have a core, in which case hit rate becomes a dead stat. 4x crit damage OLs is approximately 50% crit damage, which is half of the core hit multiplier. 4x hit rate multiplier will also give you approximately 50% hit rate. Basically, half or more of your shots have to be core hits to overtake crit damage, and that is dependent on how close or far the boss is. If the boss is far, even 50% hit rate wont get you 50% core shots, and hit rate doesnt help at all against coreless ones. Overall, crit damage is just more consistent and isnt much worse in terms of damage ceiling.
What you say makes sense but it requires so much manual play it's detrimental. Most players play on auto. And if playing manual is usually with snipers like Alice. Having to babysit grave like this is so annoying.
@@johnnydiep2122good point on the core part. I'll KIV this
@@KeijiMaeda86I'm saying manual Grave for SR/UR. I don't manual Snipers/RL, I prefer manual others. And if I really do auto in other game modes, I would rather have Crown in B2 pos than Grave.
Either way, I'm guessing auto AI for Grave, it waits for Grave to reload to full to shoot. At this point, just wait for adjustments.
performancewise, she's not worth the 1% pull rate. should have been 2% imo (not game changer like Cindy, has no gacha skin and she's far from replacing Crown). She works with certain teams alright but compared to other burst 2 the competition is hard for her and she might quickly be put aside if another OP burst 2 gets released.
Bruh anything that has a strong niche in teams for solo raid like grave here for instance is "worth it" mainly to anyone in top 3% and top 100.
Like any other banner there's no real reason to pull any Nikke unless competing for top in scores in SR or just want BOOBA. Both fair reasons dependent on player
16th!!!
Definitely unintended bug. There's probably a check that goes on where "if reloading" AND "if current ammo goes above Max Ammo" lose overheat. Technically she swaps weapons and ammo is unlimited, but based on Snow White Innocent Days, her main magazine actually gets refilled completely. It's just that after Grave bursts, she loses all magazine so it's hard to tell why. I remember earlier when Modernia released, there were times when I would exit burst and her magazine wasn't full or she had to reload. That's been fixed so there's definitely a full reload that occurs, but if you do it during a shooting animation it fails the "if reloading" check. idk.
not a bug, it's intended
Breh literally read the skills. Ammo going to empty at burst is stated
need crown rerun 🤭
IMO they rushed to fix Cinderella’s bugs and the result was they broke other mechanics (DKW, Grave).
It's cause many paid for her
D has a bug?
@@haiskateboarding6202yea it was mentioned in the livestream… can’t recall exactly what it was bc watching Sky’s marathons are info overload 😅
they're too busy counting too much money coming from the players that makes them forgot to test their game before releasing to public, very classic.
It’s more likely a few factors colliding. Don’t attribute malice to what is more likely human stupidity.
-Quality assurance in games is notoriously difficult,
-They’re pumping out characters every other week,
-These pilgrims are uniquely complicated and powerful.
-Cinderella’s bugginess gave shift up tunnel vision
MidRave 😂
mlb?
first?
Please buff Grave 🙏🏽