FINALLY. A straight forward, plain language & easy to understand explanation of "Water Resistance". It would be great if the watch industry could agree on a WR testing standard. Is there an ASTM? Seriously looking at the D4 Solar. Thanks for a great video.
This is why I got the Vaer C3 field watch to replace my dive watch. It will do EVERYTHING with me. River, Sea, Mountain, wood shop - Vaer is there. America in a watch. Reliable ingenuity, rugged individualsm, oozes class. Thanks gents.
Love the Vaer watch school videos :-) I'm going to use your video on American Assembly that you did recently in my high school Economics class that I teach.
Extraordinary explaination... Can't expect this level of genuine words from the founder of a watch company who is usually bound by so many legal restrictions and has to watch his each word... Thanks a lot, it helped me to take decision! Best part- 'Chinese manufacturer' 😆
I've been swimming in many watches with water resistance ratings from 30m to 300m, never had a failure in any of them. It's all marketing unless you are actually diving, in which case you'd have a dive computer and not a watch.
Great video, thanks for the explanation! Out of curiosity, what are the relevant manufacturing/component differences that move your watches from the 10ATM to the 20ATM rating?
Always rinse the watch (and the rest of your equipment) with fresh water asap. Salt water is one of the most destructive things to rubber. Always make sure your equipment is rated to at least twice the "working pressure" of your deepest dive. A factor of three is even "mo' better." As your equipment ages, water resistance diminishes. Sunlight disappears at around 100 feet or so. Nitrogen narcosis is a thing. Never dive alone. Follow your smallest bubble to the surface. If nitrogen narcosis kicks in, know that you are wrong and your bubble is right. Buy another watch to celebrate your survival.
3atm will easily withstand swimming, you can't create same water pressure as the static one at 30m depth. You can move your hand with watch underwater at 1m depth as fast as you can and you won't be able to create that pressure. People just don't know physics.
Water resistance is not always about water resistance. Sturdy watches that offer serious (30 ATM+) water resistance are excellent TOOL WATCHES. Fact is - nobody will make serious tool watch with mere 3 or 5ATM resistance; it's pointless. But the hardness and thickness of premium materials, corrosion resistance, pressure resistance, shock resistance, and overall rigidness used for the construction of 30ATM+ watches, allow them to endure serious beating and solid performance - regardless of situation and environment. They are all-environment, do-it-all watches.
2 years later I'm wondering the same. They say it passes a 10,000 stroke swim test, but also say don't swim with it. Personally, I have showered with it after the gym at least twice a week and it is fine. I might try swimming and just making sure to rinse it off after. And we won't get a Gen 7 sadly...
I am normal guy doing ordinary stuff not a diver,and i got casio 30 euros quartz it was rated 50 m never liked it i jumped in swim with it even did some breath diving up to 5m looking for shels stayed in water for 40min and it worked great.
I understand the need to be conservative, but in the past 30 years, I’ve swam, showered, hot tubbed, windsurfed with numerous 30 m watches, never a leak.
I only made it about 5 mins into the video but it seems like this is a really long way to say that watch ratings as a whole are basically untested lies that a marketer decided on after the watch was produced
Would you feel comfortable taking the new seiko gmt 5kx in the ocean for prolonged swims? Its 100atm no screw down crown but the case has a guard Is it safe to engage the crown underwater? Not having a screw down crown is the only thing stopping me from buying it and I wonder if its really necessary
Those seiko 5kx are fashion watches. Crown guards, but no screw down crown. For the ocean get a screw down crown watch. Vaer, Citizen, Orient, or a pricier Seiko that is 200m WR. Cirizen BN151, looks more like a tool watch, diver ISO rated. The VAER DS4 is a little dressier. The prices vary a lot depending on offers and sales.
"10 ATM - Covers swimming and submersion." MAYBE... I had a 100 meter watch for less than a year and went swimming with it. It leaked. Now I won't swim with less than a 200 meter watch.
Today a 30m water resist on a watch costing several thousands of dollars is just plain pretty lazy and cutting corners. Nice video btw.
You telling me this now?? Been using seiko snk805 with 3ATM for 6 years now. Ive been swimming with it everytime and had no issues 🤣
Very breif summary of what those ratings mean. Tested at static atmosphere. Very few videos go into depth on what those ratings mean.
@@jlwade87 so wth do i do
@someguy_ what do you mean?
FINALLY. A straight forward, plain language & easy to understand explanation of "Water Resistance". It would be great if the watch industry could agree on a WR testing standard. Is there an ASTM? Seriously looking at the D4 Solar. Thanks for a great video.
This is why I got the Vaer C3 field watch to replace my dive watch. It will do EVERYTHING with me. River, Sea, Mountain, wood shop - Vaer is there.
America in a watch. Reliable ingenuity, rugged individualsm, oozes class. Thanks gents.
Love the Vaer watch school videos :-) I'm going to use your video on American Assembly that you did recently in my high school Economics class that I teach.
Extraordinary explaination... Can't expect this level of genuine words from the founder of a watch company who is usually bound by so many legal restrictions and has to watch his each word... Thanks a lot, it helped me to take decision! Best part- 'Chinese manufacturer' 😆
Excellent explanation, I look forward to receiving my D4!
Great video. Thank you. Next watch will be a Vaer U.S made
I've been swimming in many watches with water resistance ratings from 30m to 300m, never had a failure in any of them. It's all marketing unless you are actually diving, in which case you'd have a dive computer and not a watch.
Great video, thanks for the explanation! Out of curiosity, what are the relevant manufacturing/component differences that move your watches from the 10ATM to the 20ATM rating?
Always rinse the watch (and the rest of your equipment) with fresh water asap. Salt water is one of the most destructive things to rubber.
Always make sure your equipment is rated to at least twice the "working pressure" of your deepest dive. A factor of three is even "mo' better." As your equipment ages, water resistance diminishes.
Sunlight disappears at around 100 feet or so.
Nitrogen narcosis is a thing.
Never dive alone.
Follow your smallest bubble to the surface.
If nitrogen narcosis kicks in, know that you are wrong and your bubble is right.
Buy another watch to celebrate your survival.
That damn salt on the roads in New York during winter caused my brake caliper to seize up and over $1,000 in labor
The way those divers snatched those sea urchins, savage lol
16:43 Which watch is that? It's beautiful! Are y'all planning on releasing dress watches?
so can you wash your hands safely with a 3atm watch?
really good video, thanks for the explanation
Hello brother, I will buy my first watch, but it has a 3 ATM water resistance. Can I take a bath with this watch? I will buy it accordingly.
i dont feel that my watch is safe from water if it doesnt at least have a 100 meter rating.
Same. Mostly because no company clearly clarify what it means. Specially for rainy and humid weather.
3atm will easily withstand swimming, you can't create same water pressure as the static one at 30m depth. You can move your hand with watch underwater at 1m depth as fast as you can and you won't be able to create that pressure. People just don't know physics.
Are there plans to get ISO 6425 certification for the Dive watches?
Thoughts on METAS 50 metre certification? For example the Speedmaster
Do you guys have resellers in South Africa? I would love to add one to my collection.
Would you swim in a pool with a 5atm watch?
I got a watch off of Amazon it says 3atm but it’s a $35 dress Watch says “ splash resistant “?
Why do you think they've started using this rating for smart watches, vs the IP ratings? Seems like IP is more practical not diving watches
Water resistance is not always about water resistance. Sturdy watches that offer serious (30 ATM+) water resistance are excellent TOOL WATCHES. Fact is - nobody will make serious tool watch with mere 3 or 5ATM resistance; it's pointless. But the hardness and thickness of premium materials, corrosion resistance, pressure resistance, shock resistance, and overall rigidness used for the construction of 30ATM+ watches, allow them to endure serious beating and solid performance - regardless of situation and environment. They are all-environment, do-it-all watches.
Thoughts on the Fossil Gen 6? Says 3 atm
2 years later I'm wondering the same. They say it passes a 10,000 stroke swim test, but also say don't swim with it.
Personally, I have showered with it after the gym at least twice a week and it is fine. I might try swimming and just making sure to rinse it off after.
And we won't get a Gen 7 sadly...
I am normal guy doing ordinary stuff not a diver,and i got casio 30 euros quartz it was rated 50 m never liked it i jumped in swim with it even did some breath diving up to 5m looking for shels stayed in water for 40min and it worked great.
Which is your Casio?
@@rocha9765 Casio MTP1370D
30atm don‘t need to be bulky and „special“. The Nomos Club Sport Neomatik 42 for example 10,2mm thick 30atm and a glass bottom 😄
I understand the need to be conservative, but in the past 30 years, I’ve swam, showered, hot tubbed, windsurfed with numerous 30 m watches, never a leak.
I only made it about 5 mins into the video but it seems like this is a really long way to say that watch ratings as a whole are basically untested lies that a marketer decided on after the watch was produced
so can I shower with my 3 atm watch? thanks
No.
Would you feel comfortable taking the new seiko gmt 5kx in the ocean for prolonged swims?
Its 100atm no screw down crown but the case has a guard
Is it safe to engage the crown underwater?
Not having a screw down crown is the only thing stopping me from buying it and I wonder if its really necessary
Those seiko 5kx are fashion watches. Crown guards, but no screw down crown. For the ocean get a screw down crown watch. Vaer, Citizen, Orient, or a pricier Seiko that is 200m WR. Cirizen BN151, looks more like a tool watch, diver ISO rated. The VAER DS4 is a little dressier. The prices vary a lot depending on offers and sales.
Thanks bruv
thanks
So my 5 bar should be fine in the rain then.
Your watch actually 10ATM??
Absolutely! All of our watches have a screw down crown with a minimum 10ATM rating
"10 ATM - Covers swimming and submersion." MAYBE... I had a 100 meter watch for less than a year and went swimming with it. It leaked. Now I won't swim with less than a 200 meter watch.
i'm getting a patek phellip
Very pitty that your stock is totally empty 😢
8:30
this guy don't know whats he's talking about I have a casio a168 and I've gone beyond 100 feet and it still works perfectly anyway great video
Hmm, made in China, but welcomely consumed by US customers. Who should be blamed for the poor quality? 👎
Too much talk
Chinese, Swiss, or German, etc etc etc... Just get that shit pressure tested, simple. Don't get too caught up with the "Made in ____" shit..
It will be better for your videos to go right away to the explanation you are talking too much some people are boring and not watching till the end