Also, when they asked how she got through that door. Meleys The Red Queen is the fastest and most agile of the Dragons of the time. She really was something.
To think kinslayer is worse than stomping, yeeting, stampeding, tail slapping on ten thousand civilians is wild. But i get it, different culture typeshit.
@@andromidiuslmao it is her damn war her grandkids are involved it was just stupid ass writing. The whole season suffered from it. Basically season 6 of game of thrones terrible plot with cool looking moments. Them completely changing alicent added nothing
I think this show just went from strength to strength. The casting directors deserve a massive round of applause especially for the four lead actors who play Rhaenyra and Alicent.
22:53 "King Viserys is dead, long live King Aegon." Hearing the cries, Munkun writes, some wept whilst others cheered, but most of the smallfolk stared in silence, confused and wary, and now and again a voice cried out, "Long live our Queen."
i just know the writers skipped fire&blood's page where it says “Hearing the cries, Munkun writes, some wept whilst others cheered, but most of the smallfolk stared in silence, confused and wary, and now and again a voice cried out, ‘Long live our queen.”, during Aegon's coronation
I really hope they explain why she had to go through the floor, I can guess because they had guards at the entrance/exit but I just want them to mention it so ppl won't be so hard on her in season 2 cause they explained her not wanting to be a kingslayer and start the war pretty well and is reasonable to an extent but there's the question of why go through the floor in the first place..
@@visupreme2757 the writers said that "iT wOuLd LoOk CoOl" but it makes sense that Rhaenys would do that, if not, her and her dragon would've been slaughtered
@@Nihilanth yeah I never listen to those mfs in the inside the episode cause shows like GOT and HOTD are media meant to be interpreted by the person watching especially hotd, but yeah I doubt they would leave the dragon pit unattended without guards so her going through the floor and then her explaining kingslaying the next episode all made sense to ME but average viewers might feel she killed innocents for absolutely no reason so hopefully they bring it up atleast once next season.
@@visupreme2757 Agreed. They figured out they could manipulate audiences in the final seasons of GoT with those inside the episodes and went with it. A lot of people take them as gospel which is a boring way to watch tv. I think my accepted version of why Rhaenys did that is that they fundamentally do not care about the smallfolk. This show has a chance to do what GoT was too afraid of and foment a genuine peasant uprising. This is a good inciting incident.
@@bloatus7611 yeah the season 6 finale is one of the better episode in the second half but is ruined by there being no consequences to Cersei blowing up part of kings landing with everyone just being ok with it???? But yeah the small folk is a huge part of hotd main story and white worm being in there and set photos show they aren’t gonna just “forget” about it like d&d
"You desire not to be free, but to make a window in the wall of your prison." "There is no power but what the people allow you to take." "Reluctance to murder is not a weakness." So many great lines in this episode.
Rhaenys is a hypocrite for saying it. She listens to Corlys all the time and she's a royal who has dragon. Alicent gets her power through her husband and kids. Having Aegon on the throne is the best scenario for her. Having Rhaenyra on the throne is dangerous for her kids.
"There is no power but what the people allow you to take." reminds me of "People should not fear their government, the government should fear its people."
@@yasmina3999 but Corlys doesn’t manipulate her in the game they are both aware of how the game is played but have big decisions to make in order for their house to continue. That’s why they proposed for their daughter to marry viserys so their house won’t die out which makes sense.
@@ACinemafanatichow is manipulation the main problem ? Rhaenys said that Alicent isn't free but how could she be "free"? Her husband is the king, she got her power only because of him. Her son is a prince with a dragon who has strong claim - his position is way more powerful than hers. As I said,Rhaenys has much more power but STIL listens to Corlys. 1) she didn't want Laena to be married to Viserys 2) she didn't think that marrying Laenor, an obvious gay, to the heir was an great idea because the issue of them not being able to produce heir would put the whole realm in unstable situation. 3) she wanted Baela to inherit the Driftmark She agreed to betroth the children only after Viserys walked into the room. Before that, she was happy to see Rhaenyra being put into a corner by the greens. But it's a different topic that has nothing to do with Rhaenys being hypocrite about Alicent's position in power
Just a side note The balls on the meeting table are to indicate on the record vs off the record talk They weren’t just there so that they could be available for squishing brains on 😂
Helaena’s omen isn’t just about the moment Rhaenys came out with Meleys; the beast is also her husband/brother who in the moment when he became a “king” his gonna became worst than he is… just wait
@@ShuffleUpandDeal32 that's why i say it is too basic because it lasted like one episode and the next we getting it where even in GOT it took them seasons to figure out who prince that was promised really was prophecy is never that simple and i wish this beast was person for example not literally dragon but we think this was suppose to be dragon but in reality this dragon is someone hidden beneath good face
Guys, I have to say Aegon's coronation was cool. The tolling of the bells that mark the King's passing and Aegon's accession, the announcing of Viserys'death and giving him the epiteth "the Peaceful", the fanfair, Aegon's walk under the sword passage, the anointing, the crowning, the proclamation of his titles, the rumbling cheers of the people and, finally, his waving of the Conqueror's sword. Very powerful, an event that remains in the history of Westeros. I'm only sorry about a few things: Viserys not being given a proper funeral, which is even in the books, but nonetheless distasteful; the absence of Queen Helaena's own crowning by Alicent and Aegon's three circles of the city on Sunfyre; and that Rhaenys' scene, which was liked by many, although in my opinion was senseless. Overall, epic scene.
It proves so much about this family and this society that Rhaenys didn't care about killing who knows how many smallfolk with her dragon stunt, but she couldn't bring herself to be a kinslayer and kill the people who were starting a war that will kill and displace thousands.
She didn't know what Rhaenyra's reaction to the greens would be so it would have been wrong for her to act independently, especially with such extreme violence and kinslaying.
Who the fuck cares what they support, they are random Starks? Only coz they are honorable with oaths mainly and at the end they fought for survival coz Aegon didnt want to forgive them for the dead of their family members and was hunting them down after killing Rhaenyra
Rhaenys was the beast beneath the boards. That entrance was written in the same cursive. that Daenerys with the dragon wings after conquering Kings Landing
Helaena says 'There is a Beast beneath the boards' and you would think, considering a dragon ran through the floor of the Dragonpit, but in fact, if you see that Aegon was hiding beneath the board too, and when Aegon is crowned Helaena deflects the look in fear
@@havok6280and in this case I think there are several! Helaena is such a neat character because everything she says is so important but everyone around her thinks she’s just crazy
I don’t feel like Viserys saying he wants them to be a family makes him any better as a father/grandfather. He is the one that has built this situation by being a terrible king and a terrible father to both Rhaenyra and his children with Alicent. It doesn’t really matter your intentions when your actions never followed suit. Had he been a good father to ALL his children, the war would’ve probably never happened.
It's easy to blame visarys but it's not just his fault it's Ottos fault for dividing the family by manipulating alicent, it's alicents fault for teaching her kids to hate the rheanyras ,it's rhenyreas fault for being reckless and irresponsible causing the divide between herself and alicent , it's daemons fault for being a asshole which forced visarys to disinherit him in the first place multiple pieces were put into place to make this situation the way it is .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 yes everyone fucked up, but the king had the power to change how all of this played out. He just didn't have the brains. He who has the power holds the responsibility. So Viserys is responsible for this. Simple as that.
Right decision? Alicent has always done what her father or the king has told her to do bc it was her duty now that she believes the kings dying wish was for her son to be king people expect her to stop doing whatever she was told to do? She’s done that for 40 yrs now when she does it there’s an issue with it. Realistically if you go and sit and talk with someone you wouldn’t expect them to just randomly continue a conversation they had 24 hrs ago that you were unaware took place with another human no matter how out of it they were especially when the names and details match up to where you can at least make a little sense out of what they’re saying. When you hear nonsense you try to decipher it and that’s what she did
Alicent went far beyond mere duty years ago when she allowed Larys to go unpunished for murdering his father and brother. Her duty was to report him and have him arrested. Attacking the princess with a knife isn't exactly dutiful either. Alicent's sense of duty only applies to actions that benefit her.
White Worm didn't kidnap Aegon. She told him his dad was dead and hid him at his request because he didn't want to be king. And then she gave his location up for political advantage.
I always took that to be an author's biased addition. Rhaenyra may have been called "The Realm's Delight" but in truth that was only among the lords and ladies. As Jorah Mormont explains to Dany, the smallfolk take no interest in the games the high lords play. For them to cry out for Rhaenyra, someone they don't know at all, when surrounded by green soldiers doesn't really make any sense.
10:16 “Every Time He Walks Down The Steps Like That, I Just Picture Lil Nicky” Finally Someone Said It, Him Sitting On The Throne And Doing That Sideways Walk Down Em’ That’s Lil Nicky All Day 😂
O que é uma grande mudança dos livros, já que nos livros ela é uma bruaca que tá realmente tentando usurpar o trono e tá consciente disso. Imagino que a mudança foi para fazer com que alguém possa torcer pelos verdes, tornar eles mais gostaveis.
poor helaena looks away as aegons being crowned, she doesn’t want it, she knows what’s happening is WRONG. also if you remember, daemon created the gold cloaks, otto was ordering them to open the doors but they were doing the opposite, this is shown because the gold cloaks favor daemon and want to see daemons ascent, so they were actually hoping that trapping melys in there would stress her out and would therefore burn everyone to a crisp and ending everything right then and there.
Being a people pleaser was one of Viserys' worst traits as king, as well as simply wanting to ignore every problem and hope for the best. We saw him do it with the Stepstones, a problem he ignored until Corlys and Daemon fixed it for him, and we see him let his family's dysfunction spiral out until war was inevitable. Like you said, he never should have brought Otto back in as Hand. He also probably should have forced the marriage between Jace and Helaena, even though it would have ruined his relationship with Alicent. Getting the kids away from Alicent might have also been a good decision because if he was paying attention he would know how toxic her influence was. He maybe even should have disinherited Rhaenyra when she started popping out the bastards. It's awful the way women have their sexuality controlled in this society, but is standing up to that sexism worth thousands (maybe millions) of people being killed, raped and displaced worth it? Sorry I wrote an essay here, just needed to get that off my chest! Thanks for the videos!
I'm def not team green, but I can't get on team black either. Have a hard time accepting that Rhaenyra's bastard kids will be heirs to the throne (the literal plot point of GoT seasons 1-3)
Even tho they are bastards they were raised as princes of the realm and behave as such. Much better princes that Alicents sons ever were. I would prefer jace being king than Aegon or Aemond a thousand times
So you agree with the system? A bastard son doesn't deserve anything in life because their father is not the son of someone's son of someone else's son? But apart from that, it's okay to not pick sides. As Shireen said in GoT: (about Aegon and Rhaenyra) "I wouldn't have chosen either. It's all the choosing sides that made everything so horrible"
@@andyfern8923 I think they are more princes and deseve more the throne and were better prepered then Alicents son. I belive jace would be a better king than them.
@bridgeco - did you know that Jerry Lee Lewis did the same thing? married his 13 year old cousin.. they got some woman to sign the marriage papers on her behalf because she was obviously too young.
@@psychedelicpegasus7587 Well, in the show he just wanted him to sit down and didn't mean to kill him so yeah it's an accident. But in the books... Go read the books and you will know who Rhaenyra is outside of this propaganda
A lot can be said about the horrible things Alicent does, but I do genuinely believe she does them out of love for her family. She stepped between her son and a full grown dragon with no hesitation, and I'll always respect that move
So this year marks the 10 year anniversary of the movie Ex Machina, and about a month ago i was thinking how of the 4 actors in that movie, there was 1 whose career I hadn't followed. So I looked her up on IMDB and was shocked to realize she was the White Worm. If you haven't seen Ex Machina before I highly recommend! Larys out here predating Quentin Tarantino! 😂 The next episode has one of the greatest shots of both Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon. I kept rewatching that scene before I even finished the episode. Can't wait to see your reaction to it!
I do think it's an interesting take that Viserys' neglect toward his other children made less of an impression on them than their mother's insistence that they be raised wary of dying. Viserys' inaction gets a pass from a lot of people because he starts to break down and everyone else is more ambitious. I think Bridget's anger in the first episode was righteous but it's a more stark example of his own follies ruining his family. After all those years, he's still in relatively good health enough to raise his sons. And yet, he lets them stew in the resentment of Alicent and Criston Cole. Something he plainly saw. Letting Rhaenyra get away with her doings. Time and time again letting Daemon back into the fold despite his undermining. This isn't you guys but Viserys getting smol beaned by the end of the series by some people has been stuck in my craw. The right response to not wanting something to happen is to be more proactive in preventing it. Especially if you have absolute power.
Rhaenys massacreing hundreds of commonfolk never sat right with me, especially considering how "nobles doing whatever they wanted at the cost of the common people" was one of the most important themes that the books had.
It's also illogical and dumb as fuck , the dragon pit has multiple exists and entrances she could have left completely undetected and wouldn't harm anyone, plus she's not wearing a helmet bursting from the floor is a good way to get a concussion, also the whole point of the dragon pit is that they can't just leave whenever they want once again the show runners choose spectical over logic for the sake of it without thinking it through.
It's amusing how much people hate the Greens for crowning Aegon over the named heir. Joffrey was Robert's named heir and Ned tried to deny him the throne because he was a bastard... just like Rhaenrya's sons. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. People just don't like the Greens.
The same people would hate the Green no matter what they do, even if it is good. The reason is, these people often have zero accountability for their actions. So they validate themselves with the Blacks, who largely aren’t punished for their bad behavior, and even if they were, they’d quickly jump on the blame game rather than some self-reflection. These people wanna do whatever they please without any repercussions.
Those are two very different situations... Ned did not try to deny the throne to Joffrey just so he could take it for himself (also, the Lannisters were vile) and Rhaenyra is not a bastard, so the fact that her sons are doesn't really matter here. People don't like the greens because of the way they've been acting since ep 1.
@@sundaylibre no they are not entirely different. Ned was going against Robert's dying wish. He could have told him the truth about Joffrey. He chose not to. He also entertained Renly and Littlefinger's schemes. Rhaenrya may not be a bastard but she is a woman. There has never been a ruling queen. As Rhaenrya admitted last episode, naming her divided the realm. More importantly she committed treason when she put bastards in the line of succession. Keep in mind Corlys said the fact that Rhaenys already had a male heir in Laenor was a reason to support her claim. As far as how the Greens have acted, name their crimes. Otto has consistently done what he thought was best for his house and the realm. He is the reason Viserys named Rhaenrya in the first place because he correctly recognized how dangerous Daemon is. And nearly ever Hand has tried to marry into the royal family. Tywin wanted to marry Cersei to Rhaegar. Ned was willing to let Sansa marry Joffrey. Otto is no different.
23:30 important moment Aegon stops for a moment and look between Otto and Alicent but he is below them but slowly he climb up the stairs and become their equal to finally become bigger then them kid they abused for so many years
I think Tyrion said something about "It's hard to put a leash back on a dog after you've put a crown on his head" when talking about Joffrey. I'm looking forward to a certain event next season where Otto finds out the truth of those words.
I think Rhaenys comment to Alicent about seeing herself on the Iron Throne was just to reinforce the other point about Alicent’s life being in service to the men in her life rather than having any true agency of her own. I don’t think she was actually insinuating that was a possibility for Alicent. That is a great scene between those two! And as far as the shocking “feet” scene, if you go back to the earlier episode when Larys and Alicent met in her quarters for a meal, Alicent took off her shoes before sitting at the table. At the time it just seemed like she was getting comfortable after a long and trying day. Now it feels like there might’ve been more going on there. But I honestly think that from Larys’ perspective this is more about the power he has over Alicent, that he can get her to debase herself like that. IMO, the humiliation of it feels like something that would give him more pleasure than anything else.
Everything would be so much easier to understand if ppl could comprehend that what the KING said is what the king said! Regardless how you feel about rhanerya, SHE was named heir and what the king says is LAW! Cry about it and move around… 🤷🏾♀️
But do you not understand that it was about oath and this oath was made 20 years ago and in this time lords that swore oaths to her died or got killed and got replaced by their sons or daughters and they do not swore to Rhaenyra or Viserys because Viserys did not think about remaking oaths to her so not all of them feel like they have to keep it or they do not want to keep it because Viserys breaks tradition by making Woman their Queen and common people also got used to males on iron throne it became trqdition jist like Daemon said in episode 4 common people think that because Aegon is males he should be heor qhile Ehaenyra says somethif like i do not care they will jave no choice but to accept me so not that they said common people that Viserys wanted this and that common people accepted it rhey saw Aegon gor coronared not Rhaenyra for them Aegon is the king because that is what they saw.
Still shocked by how many people are Team Black - to me Daemon is as evil as Larys or Cole (just ask his lady wife in the Vale). Otto is just deviant. But Alicent - I simply don't understand how people don't see her side. She was forced into this marriage, and was EXTREMELY loyal to Viserys and the Realm. She is a Loyalist and a Realist, all she ever did was protect the kids she was forced to have. Even when she did the worst thing she did (attack Rhaenyra), it (protecting her kid) was because one of her kids lost an eye and nothing was being done about it. She doesn't want her son to be King, but she knows the Realm will (I'm not saying the Realm should, saying the Realm does), which means one of Aegon or Rhaenyra has to die ("you are the threat simply by breathing") and as shown in this episode Alicent doesn't want either to die. It's actually kind of hard to watch Bridgeco because of the Black blinders they have on - neither side is good and both sides have good. To me HOTD is so brilliantly constructed to show how both sides are right and wrong, and it blows me away how many people side with the Blacks. Bridgeco isn't alone, I've watched a lot of reactors and most are Team Black - but Bridgeco are so vociferously Black that everything else is ignored. One last thing - blaming the parent for all of the child's indiscretions is completely unfair - in real life or the show. "With Targareyans, the gods flip a coin..."
This franchise is reminded me of AOT community. There are children yapping about different sides and there are mature people observing both side and realize how fucked up both sides are
@@sharonh9239 not at gunpoint no...but essentially yes. If that's what you take from my post then you're arguing a point that has no relevance to the subject matter -she did it out of loyalty for her father at least
Team Black! But always listen what Alicent's daughter Helaena say! She can predict things! Beast beneath the boards she said and then it happends in the end of an episode!
I think they changed alicent from straight up lying about Vecrerys in the books to. Her misunderstanding him on the show because people would really hate Alicent if the6nstuck to the book.
The balls are just a symbol of the role they play in the council I am pretty sure. Akin to the pin of the Hand of the monarch. It shows that the Master of Coin is at the meeting for example, council members change but the role does not. It is how ever just a display of symbolism given that with the roles and the hand/monarch there are only seven people who sit at that table, you can clearly see who is in attendance and who is not, but... gotta be fancy about it I guess. Speaking of symbolism, Lyman Beesbury who Ser Criston killed at the council meeting was killed by the representation of his position while he really died because of his position and role. He was in the council, only a king can authorise the changing of council members and there is now no king and the council must agree for stuff to move forward. His position on the heir made his position in the council untenable for the Greens and it was the representation of his power, that stupid little ball that ended him.
I'm not team green at all, Team Black all the way, but Alicent's aggression was planted in her by Otto. She is truly convinced that if Rhaenyra takes the throne, her children will be executed
You said the beast beneath the boards, you watched her go downstairs to the dragon pit, you watched the beast come from beneath the boards “That’s Daemon!!” What?!?!😂😂😂😂😂 Love the commitment. Also I have no idea how anyone is team green. I mean black are good either but the greens are treason and that side of the family is def not morally any better.
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Larry took out his whole family for feet pics
The burning house was Larys trying to take out the White Worm.
I always thought it was Otto
@@leticiaschmitt1266 Me too.
Rhaenys’ dragon Meleys is called THE RED QUEEN.
“There’s a Beast beneath the boards.” -HT
Also, when they asked how she got through that door. Meleys The Red Queen is the fastest and most agile of the Dragons of the time. She really was something.
@@jonathanwingate1901 Gods, she was strong then!
Your joke about "House Green, I see your side now." when it looked like Otto was rolling a joint was pure gold.
Yes, this is not the first time this season that we have seen him sealing a scroll and it looked suspiciously like something else.😂
@@blackeyedlily He's gotta do whatever it takes to take the edge off his conspiring.
@@ninjafohhiya Those scolls are so small! But I guess the concept is that they are supposed to go around a raven’s claw.
There is something called 'The Order of The Green Hand'. George knows what he is doing.
lol just caught myself singing along "Bridgettteeeee!" haha lol please tell me im not the only 1 🤣
Nope I definitely do it too
Yep!❤❤
Nope. I do it every friggin time. Haha. It’s cute. Although I can’t apply it to my life in any way. Hahaha
Gonna say it forever.
Don't we all?
In a game of thrones tune bridgetttteeee haaa
That was Mysaria's house on fire. I think Rhaenys didn't want to be a kinslayer, especially before the formal declaration of hostilities.
Wasn't her war to start either, and she knew it. She just wanted to be left alone.
To think kinslayer is worse than stomping, yeeting, stampeding, tail slapping on ten thousand civilians is wild. But i get it, different culture typeshit.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 not to even mention things that are yet to happen due to the war but sure, Rhaenys honor is more important by Sara Hess logic
@@andromidiuslmao it is her damn war her grandkids are involved it was just stupid ass writing. The whole season suffered from it. Basically season 6 of game of thrones terrible plot with cool looking moments. Them completely changing alicent added nothing
"Lite up Otto" "house green"😂😂
Otto does look like an older version of stoner pothead Shaggy from Scooby Doo.
getting high in the tower
I think this show just went from strength to strength. The casting directors deserve a massive round of applause especially for the four lead actors who play Rhaenyra and Alicent.
Alicent asked for Rhaenys answer and the Red Queen (Meleys) screech to them was her answer! 10/10 scene!! LOVED IT and your reactions just chills!!
22:53 "King Viserys is dead, long live King Aegon." Hearing the cries, Munkun writes, some wept whilst others cheered, but most of the smallfolk stared in silence, confused and wary, and now and again a voice cried out, "Long live our Queen."
i just know the writers skipped fire&blood's page where it says
“Hearing the cries, Munkun writes, some wept whilst others cheered, but most of the smallfolk stared in silence, confused and wary, and now and again a voice cried out, ‘Long live our queen.”, during Aegon's coronation
I really hope they explain why she had to go through the floor, I can guess because they had guards at the entrance/exit but I just want them to mention it so ppl won't be so hard on her in season 2 cause they explained her not wanting to be a kingslayer and start the war pretty well and is reasonable to an extent but there's the question of why go through the floor in the first place..
@@visupreme2757 the writers said that "iT wOuLd LoOk CoOl"
but it makes sense that Rhaenys would do that, if not, her and her dragon would've been slaughtered
@@Nihilanth yeah I never listen to those mfs in the inside the episode cause shows like GOT and HOTD are media meant to be interpreted by the person watching especially hotd, but yeah I doubt they would leave the dragon pit unattended without guards so her going through the floor and then her explaining kingslaying the next episode all made sense to ME but average viewers might feel she killed innocents for absolutely no reason so hopefully they bring it up atleast once next season.
@@visupreme2757 Agreed. They figured out they could manipulate audiences in the final seasons of GoT with those inside the episodes and went with it. A lot of people take them as gospel which is a boring way to watch tv. I think my accepted version of why Rhaenys did that is that they fundamentally do not care about the smallfolk. This show has a chance to do what GoT was too afraid of and foment a genuine peasant uprising. This is a good inciting incident.
@@bloatus7611 yeah the season 6 finale is one of the better episode in the second half but is ruined by there being no consequences to Cersei blowing up part of kings landing with everyone just being ok with it???? But yeah the small folk is a huge part of hotd main story and white worm being in there and set photos show they aren’t gonna just “forget” about it like d&d
"You desire not to be free, but to make a window in the wall of your prison."
"There is no power but what the people allow you to take."
"Reluctance to murder is not a weakness."
So many great lines in this episode.
I loved Rhaenys saying that to Alicent. She understands it because she has her own window in a patriarchal prison as the queen who never was.
Rhaenys is a hypocrite for saying it. She listens to Corlys all the time and she's a royal who has dragon. Alicent gets her power through her husband and kids. Having Aegon on the throne is the best scenario for her. Having Rhaenyra on the throne is dangerous for her kids.
"There is no power but what the people allow you to take."
reminds me of
"People should not fear their government, the government should fear its people."
@@yasmina3999 but Corlys doesn’t manipulate her in the game they are both aware of how the game is played but have big decisions to make in order for their house to continue. That’s why they proposed for their daughter to marry viserys so their house won’t die out which makes sense.
@@ACinemafanatichow is manipulation the main problem ? Rhaenys said that Alicent isn't free but how could she be "free"? Her husband is the king, she got her power only because of him. Her son is a prince with a dragon who has strong claim - his position is way more powerful than hers.
As I said,Rhaenys has much more power but STIL listens to Corlys.
1) she didn't want Laena to be married to Viserys
2) she didn't think that marrying Laenor, an obvious gay, to the heir was an great idea because the issue of them not being able to produce heir would put the whole realm in unstable situation.
3) she wanted Baela to inherit the Driftmark
She agreed to betroth the children only after Viserys walked into the room. Before that, she was happy to see Rhaenyra being put into a corner by the greens. But it's a different topic that has nothing to do with Rhaenys being hypocrite about Alicent's position in power
Just a side note
The balls on the meeting table are to indicate on the record vs off the record talk
They weren’t just there so that they could be available for squishing brains on 😂
Wait, but who is taking meeting minutes? 😂
Helaena’s omen isn’t just about the moment Rhaenys came out with Meleys; the beast is also her husband/brother who in the moment when he became a “king” his gonna became worst than he is… just wait
I love the “did you know?” stuff Bridgette has been doing recently!
dragon slaughters a captive audience of common folk.
bridgeco: "THAT WAS SO FUGGIN GOOD!!!"
The Queen who never was brings the heat with her dragon Meleys "The beast beneath the boards"
Too basic for my liking prophecies are more complicated than that
@@queenxx1690 W|hatever you say, it fits the prophecy, most people will have forgotten about the prophecy by the time the next season comes anyway
@@ShuffleUpandDeal32 that's why i say it is too basic because it lasted like one episode and the next we getting it where even in GOT it took them seasons to figure out who prince that was promised really was prophecy is never that simple and i wish this beast was person for example not literally dragon but we think this was suppose to be dragon but in reality this dragon is someone hidden beneath good face
@@queenxx1690 it's not a prophecy, just Helaena speaking her visions in the only way she knows how
@@Trosvvo it is prophecy something that will happen
that commander that ripped off his cape at the beggining and walked off has 10000% of my respect.
He walked so Barristan Selmy could run.
I love those random facts from Bridgette, hope it is a new thing now 😅
Guys, I have to say Aegon's coronation was cool. The tolling of the bells that mark the King's passing and Aegon's accession, the announcing of Viserys'death and giving him the epiteth "the Peaceful", the fanfair, Aegon's walk under the sword passage, the anointing, the crowning, the proclamation of his titles, the rumbling cheers of the people and, finally, his waving of the Conqueror's sword. Very powerful, an event that remains in the history of Westeros. I'm only sorry about a few things:
Viserys not being given a proper funeral, which is even in the books, but nonetheless distasteful; the absence of Queen Helaena's own crowning by Alicent and Aegon's three circles of the city on Sunfyre; and that Rhaenys' scene, which was liked by many, although in my opinion was senseless. Overall, epic scene.
Episode 9...a beast beneath the boards, imagine that! 😉 Episode 10 will NOT disappoint either...
Y'all have remarkable restraint because I would have went to episode 10 expeditiously😅😅
🎉 HAPPY BIRTHDAY CODY!!!🎉
Rhaenys could have prevented the war in that moment but she didn't because 'its not my fight' girl. It is EVERYONE's fight
It proves so much about this family and this society that Rhaenys didn't care about killing who knows how many smallfolk with her dragon stunt, but she couldn't bring herself to be a kinslayer and kill the people who were starting a war that will kill and displace thousands.
She didn't know what Rhaenyra's reaction to the greens would be so it would have been wrong for her to act independently, especially with such extreme violence and kinslaying.
“we’re on joint!?” i laughed abit too hard lmao
THIS IS WHERE THE LORE OF THIS KINDA STARTS OUT!!
House Stark HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED RHAENYRA'S CLAIM
Who the fuck cares what they support, they are random Starks? Only coz they are honorable with oaths mainly and at the end they fought for survival coz Aegon didnt want to forgive them for the dead of their family members and was hunting them down after killing Rhaenyra
She's a murderer
No wonder they were irrelevant in Westeroes for most time.
“Support” is definitely generous…
Rhaenys was the beast beneath the boards. That entrance was written in the same cursive. that Daenerys with the dragon wings after conquering Kings Landing
The cgi was no where as impressive as the CGI on Danearys cene.
Helaena says 'There is a Beast beneath the boards' and you would think, considering a dragon ran through the floor of the Dragonpit, but in fact, if you see that Aegon was hiding beneath the board too, and when Aegon is crowned Helaena deflects the look in fear
Great catch!
A prophesy can have more than one meaning.
@@havok6280and in this case I think there are several! Helaena is such a neat character because everything she says is so important but everyone around her thinks she’s just crazy
"Spark up Otto, House Green." 🤣🤣🤣
lol peepaw Otto getting high in the tower lol😅
I don’t feel like Viserys saying he wants them to be a family makes him any better as a father/grandfather. He is the one that has built this situation by being a terrible king and a terrible father to both Rhaenyra and his children with Alicent. It doesn’t really matter your intentions when your actions never followed suit. Had he been a good father to ALL his children, the war would’ve probably never happened.
It's easy to blame visarys but it's not just his fault it's Ottos fault for dividing the family by manipulating alicent, it's alicents fault for teaching her kids to hate the rheanyras ,it's rhenyreas fault for being reckless and irresponsible causing the divide between herself and alicent , it's daemons fault for being a asshole which forced visarys to disinherit him in the first place multiple pieces were put into place to make this situation the way it is .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 yes everyone fucked up, but the king had the power to change how all of this played out. He just didn't have the brains. He who has the power holds the responsibility. So Viserys is responsible for this. Simple as that.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 of course he's responsible I'm just saying he's not the only reason things happened or is the only one to blame.
the moment when Alicent stood herself between the dragon and her son because she's a mother who would die for her own children
Right decision? Alicent has always done what her father or the king has told her to do bc it was her duty now that she believes the kings dying wish was for her son to be king people expect her to stop doing whatever she was told to do? She’s done that for 40 yrs now when she does it there’s an issue with it. Realistically if you go and sit and talk with someone you wouldn’t expect them to just randomly continue a conversation they had 24 hrs ago that you were unaware took place with another human no matter how out of it they were especially when the names and details match up to where you can at least make a little sense out of what they’re saying. When you hear nonsense you try to decipher it and that’s what she did
Alicent went far beyond mere duty years ago when she allowed Larys to go unpunished for murdering his father and brother. Her duty was to report him and have him arrested. Attacking the princess with a knife isn't exactly dutiful either. Alicent's sense of duty only applies to actions that benefit her.
Rhaenys: "Don't be violent like all those evil men."
Also Rhaenys: *Kills hundreds of civilians for no reason then flies away.
What a boss entrance for Princess Rhaenys
Yes, killing innocent civilians is boss...
When Rhaenese finally got word to Rhaenyra........ LOOK AT DEMION'S FACE ...
Rhaenys
White Worm didn't kidnap Aegon. She told him his dad was dead and hid him at his request because he didn't want to be king. And then she gave his location up for political advantage.
Then Larys tried to burn her 🔥
You should watch "Dark" after finishing HOTD as the next big show. It is really good.
Rhaenys' moment was kind of cool, but I was so hoping they'd keep to the books in the coronation scene, with the crowd calling for Rhaenyra.
I always took that to be an author's biased addition. Rhaenyra may have been called "The Realm's Delight" but in truth that was only among the lords and ladies. As Jorah Mormont explains to Dany, the smallfolk take no interest in the games the high lords play. For them to cry out for Rhaenyra, someone they don't know at all, when surrounded by green soldiers doesn't really make any sense.
“i’m sorry???? we’ve got a foot dude” took me OUT 😂
At least he's not a pantie guy!!
10:16 “Every Time He Walks Down The Steps Like That, I Just Picture Lil Nicky”
Finally Someone Said It, Him Sitting On The Throne And Doing That Sideways Walk Down Em’
That’s Lil Nicky All Day 😂
5:14، Now you understand the use of that balls 😁
“There is a Beast beneath the boards “ ,, she wasn’t kidding,,,
I guess there was... a beast beneath the boards
Acho que a Alicent quer acreditar nas mentiras que melhor convém a ela, nem acho que foi um mal-entendido
O que é uma grande mudança dos livros, já que nos livros ela é uma bruaca que tá realmente tentando usurpar o trono e tá consciente disso.
Imagino que a mudança foi para fazer com que alguém possa torcer pelos verdes, tornar eles mais gostaveis.
@@AquileanWarlock o que faz sentido pra uma série, mas acho meio méh, mas tbm não queria que fosse igual aos livros
That joint joke made me laugh a lot.
Well played sir.
poor helaena looks away as aegons being crowned, she doesn’t want it, she knows what’s happening is WRONG.
also if you remember, daemon created the gold cloaks, otto was ordering them to open the doors but they were doing the opposite, this is shown because the gold cloaks favor daemon and want to see daemons ascent, so they were actually hoping that trapping melys in there would stress her out and would therefore burn everyone to a crisp and ending everything right then and there.
99.1k baby! Good on you both!
Being a people pleaser was one of Viserys' worst traits as king, as well as simply wanting to ignore every problem and hope for the best. We saw him do it with the Stepstones, a problem he ignored until Corlys and Daemon fixed it for him, and we see him let his family's dysfunction spiral out until war was inevitable.
Like you said, he never should have brought Otto back in as Hand. He also probably should have forced the marriage between Jace and Helaena, even though it would have ruined his relationship with Alicent. Getting the kids away from Alicent might have also been a good decision because if he was paying attention he would know how toxic her influence was.
He maybe even should have disinherited Rhaenyra when she started popping out the bastards. It's awful the way women have their sexuality controlled in this society, but is standing up to that sexism worth thousands (maybe millions) of people being killed, raped and displaced worth it? Sorry I wrote an essay here, just needed to get that off my chest! Thanks for the videos!
That rhaenys scene was a brainfart moment from everyone behind the scenes
This whole house green annoy the hell out of me...
I'm def not team green, but I can't get on team black either. Have a hard time accepting that Rhaenyra's bastard kids will be heirs to the throne (the literal plot point of GoT seasons 1-3)
Even tho they are bastards they were raised as princes of the realm and behave as such. Much better princes that Alicents sons ever were. I would prefer jace being king than Aegon or Aemond a thousand times
@@thaispereira7311 I def hate Alicents kids. I've always thought the throne should have just gone to Daemon. The whole ordeal is a mess lol
@@francescashanae5305 I think Daemon would be a terrible king. But i respect your opinion
So you agree with the system? A bastard son doesn't deserve anything in life because their father is not the son of someone's son of someone else's son?
But apart from that, it's okay to not pick sides. As Shireen said in GoT: (about Aegon and Rhaenyra) "I wouldn't have chosen either. It's all the choosing sides that made everything so horrible"
@@andyfern8923 I think they are more princes and deseve more the throne and were better prepered then Alicents son. I belive jace would be a better king than them.
Y’all are gonna love the next episode lol
Helaena crying and looking away during Aegon's coronation kills me
Fun fact, the actor who plays Otto also played Luna Lovegoods father in the Harry Potter movies.
Whaaat? Xenophilius LoveGood?
…and the Lizard in Spider-Man and Hugh Grant’s hilarious crazy party boy roommate in Notting Hill, the guy does comedy really well😂
@bridgeco - did you know that Jerry Lee Lewis did the same thing? married his 13 year old cousin.. they got some woman to sign the marriage papers on her behalf because she was obviously too young.
Great Balls of Fire was a great movie about Jerry.
-Kristen Cole kills a guy accidentally: 😡😡😡
-Rhaenys kills hundreds of innocents in an unnecessary move that was not even in the books: 😄😄😄
Exactly 🤣
"Accidentally" is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. 😅
@@psychedelicpegasus7587 Well, in the show he just wanted him to sit down and didn't mean to kill him so yeah it's an accident. But in the books... Go read the books and you will know who Rhaenyra is outside of this propaganda
@@psychedelicpegasus7587 I mean his words were "sit down" So It's not Cole's fault that beesbury wanted to do a headown🤣
@@Durran196well. No!
You found the new little finger. "Little piggies"
Rhaenys wanted wanted to stay neutral at that moment. She definitely didn't want to start a war or murder half her family.
A lot can be said about the horrible things Alicent does, but I do genuinely believe she does them out of love for her family. She stepped between her son and a full grown dragon with no hesitation, and I'll always respect that move
Yes, they each have their own apartments
These are the tough questions
@@superkoopatrooper4879 😆
Keep noticed of what QUEEN HELENA says
The beast beneath the boards
“Spark up Otto”🤣🤣🤣
So this year marks the 10 year anniversary of the movie Ex Machina, and about a month ago i was thinking how of the 4 actors in that movie, there was 1 whose career I hadn't followed. So I looked her up on IMDB and was shocked to realize she was the White Worm. If you haven't seen Ex Machina before I highly recommend!
Larys out here predating Quentin Tarantino! 😂
The next episode has one of the greatest shots of both Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon. I kept rewatching that scene before I even finished the episode. Can't wait to see your reaction to it!
If i remember correctly, Rhaenys' dragon Meleys is the most nimble dragon which is why it was able to squeeze through those doors so easily
That cough bit cracked me up.
The beast beneath the boards. Can't believe you missed whose house was on fire.
I do think it's an interesting take that Viserys' neglect toward his other children made less of an impression on them than their mother's insistence that they be raised wary of dying. Viserys' inaction gets a pass from a lot of people because he starts to break down and everyone else is more ambitious. I think Bridget's anger in the first episode was righteous but it's a more stark example of his own follies ruining his family.
After all those years, he's still in relatively good health enough to raise his sons. And yet, he lets them stew in the resentment of Alicent and Criston Cole. Something he plainly saw. Letting Rhaenyra get away with her doings. Time and time again letting Daemon back into the fold despite his undermining. This isn't you guys but Viserys getting smol beaned by the end of the series by some people has been stuck in my craw.
The right response to not wanting something to happen is to be more proactive in preventing it. Especially if you have absolute power.
Kings don't raise their children. They depend on others to do it.
2:35
Not me JUST finishing listening to "Who the Hell is Edgar" by Teya & Salena (2023 Eurovision) 😂😂😂😂
Rhaenys massacreing hundreds of commonfolk never sat right with me, especially considering how "nobles doing whatever they wanted at the cost of the common people" was one of the most important themes that the books had.
Personally i love seeing her girlboss
I wouldn't consider the slaughter of hundreds of innocents a girlboss moment, but maybe that's just me 🤷♀️@zoelagoblina3138
But doesn't that support exactly that statement?
It's also illogical and dumb as fuck , the dragon pit has multiple exists and entrances she could have left completely undetected and wouldn't harm anyone, plus she's not wearing a helmet bursting from the floor is a good way to get a concussion, also the whole point of the dragon pit is that they can't just leave whenever they want once again the show runners choose spectical over logic for the sake of it without thinking it through.
At least she didn't go mad queen that never was and burn down all of kings landing like Dany..
It's amusing how much people hate the Greens for crowning Aegon over the named heir.
Joffrey was Robert's named heir and Ned tried to deny him the throne because he was a bastard... just like Rhaenrya's sons.
It has nothing to do with right or wrong. People just don't like the Greens.
Exactly and they were cheering when Ned did it, lmao
The same people would hate the Green no matter what they do, even if it is good.
The reason is, these people often have zero accountability for their actions. So they validate themselves with the Blacks, who largely aren’t punished for their bad behavior, and even if they were, they’d quickly jump on the blame game rather than some self-reflection.
These people wanna do whatever they please without any repercussions.
Those are two very different situations... Ned did not try to deny the throne to Joffrey just so he could take it for himself (also, the Lannisters were vile) and Rhaenyra is not a bastard, so the fact that her sons are doesn't really matter here. People don't like the greens because of the way they've been acting since ep 1.
I think you might be forgetting that joffrey was a monster so for us viewers, there is litteraly no reason to want this psycho to be king
@@sundaylibre no they are not entirely different. Ned was going against Robert's dying wish. He could have told him the truth about Joffrey. He chose not to. He also entertained Renly and Littlefinger's schemes.
Rhaenrya may not be a bastard but she is a woman. There has never been a ruling queen. As Rhaenrya admitted last episode, naming her divided the realm.
More importantly she committed treason when she put bastards in the line of succession. Keep in mind Corlys said the fact that Rhaenys already had a male heir in Laenor was a reason to support her claim.
As far as how the Greens have acted, name their crimes. Otto has consistently done what he thought was best for his house and the realm. He is the reason Viserys named Rhaenrya in the first place because he correctly recognized how dangerous Daemon is. And nearly ever Hand has tried to marry into the royal family. Tywin wanted to marry Cersei to Rhaegar. Ned was willing to let Sansa marry Joffrey. Otto is no different.
Off topic but that kiss on the hand was so cute, aww ❤
“Source trust me bro” 😭😭😭😭😭
17:45: Aegon was offering to sail away himself and leave the crown to Aemond; Bridget seemed to understand this, but not the guy (Cody?).
23:30 important moment Aegon stops for a moment and look between Otto and Alicent but he is below them but slowly he climb up the stairs and become their equal to finally become bigger then them kid they abused for so many years
I think Tyrion said something about "It's hard to put a leash back on a dog after you've put a crown on his head" when talking about Joffrey. I'm looking forward to a certain event next season where Otto finds out the truth of those words.
@@pajamaparty01 yeah that's what Tom (actor who plays him) said about Aegon on one of meetings with fans
The twins are our new cleganebowl
I think Rhaenys comment to Alicent about seeing herself on the Iron Throne was just to reinforce the other point about Alicent’s life being in service to the men in her life rather than having any true agency of her own. I don’t think she was actually insinuating that was a possibility for Alicent. That is a great scene between those two! And as far as the shocking “feet” scene, if you go back to the earlier episode when Larys and Alicent met in her quarters for a meal, Alicent took off her shoes before sitting at the table. At the time it just seemed like she was getting comfortable after a long and trying day. Now it feels like there might’ve been more going on there. But I honestly think that from Larys’ perspective this is more about the power he has over Alicent, that he can get her to debase herself like that. IMO, the humiliation of it feels like something that would give him more pleasure than anything else.
Rhaenyra killed an innocent guard, Rhaenys killed hundreds in the pit, Daemon killed his first wife...If you cheer for this characters you need help 😂
Oh and what your cheering for the greens? I think ur the one that needs help buddy 💀
@@YounaPun Did I say I'm cheering for the Greens?
Exactly! Both sides are horrible. I don't get hwo people can pick sides and stand behind any of those characters.
Everything would be so much easier to understand if ppl could comprehend that what the KING said is what the king said! Regardless how you feel about rhanerya, SHE was named heir and what the king says is LAW! Cry about it and move around… 🤷🏾♀️
But do you not understand that it was about oath and this oath was made 20 years ago and in this time lords that swore oaths to her died or got killed and got replaced by their sons or daughters and they do not swore to Rhaenyra or Viserys because Viserys did not think about remaking oaths to her so not all of them feel like they have to keep it or they do not want to keep it because Viserys breaks tradition by making Woman their Queen and common people also got used to males on iron throne it became trqdition jist like Daemon said in episode 4 common people think that because Aegon is males he should be heor qhile Ehaenyra says somethif like i do not care they will jave no choice but to accept me so not that they said common people that Viserys wanted this and that common people accepted it rhey saw Aegon gor coronared not Rhaenyra for them Aegon is the king because that is what they saw.
Still shocked by how many people are Team Black - to me Daemon is as evil as Larys or Cole (just ask his lady wife in the Vale). Otto is just deviant.
But Alicent - I simply don't understand how people don't see her side. She was forced into this marriage, and was EXTREMELY loyal to Viserys and the Realm. She is a Loyalist and a Realist, all she ever did was protect the kids she was forced to have. Even when she did the worst thing she did (attack Rhaenyra), it (protecting her kid) was because one of her kids lost an eye and nothing was being done about it.
She doesn't want her son to be King, but she knows the Realm will (I'm not saying the Realm should, saying the Realm does), which means one of Aegon or Rhaenyra has to die ("you are the threat simply by breathing") and as shown in this episode Alicent doesn't want either to die.
It's actually kind of hard to watch Bridgeco because of the Black blinders they have on - neither side is good and both sides have good. To me HOTD is so brilliantly constructed to show how both sides are right and wrong, and it blows me away how many people side with the Blacks. Bridgeco isn't alone, I've watched a lot of reactors and most are Team Black - but Bridgeco are so vociferously Black that everything else is ignored.
One last thing - blaming the parent for all of the child's indiscretions is completely unfair - in real life or the show. "With Targareyans, the gods flip a coin..."
This franchise is reminded me of AOT community. There are children yapping about different sides and there are mature people observing both side and realize how fucked up both sides are
Very good points @Weinzierl1973
She wasn't forced.
@@sharonh9239 not at gunpoint no...but essentially yes. If that's what you take from my post then you're arguing a point that has no relevance to the subject matter -she did it out of loyalty for her father at least
The blunt joke was funny because my fiance said the same thing he said dam he rolling a fatty 😂
I didn’t notice before but look at Helena during the last few moments. Her head is turned and in another scene her eyes are closed.
“None of this is a great.”
“And yet you treat it as one.”
Cody: REALLY, BIT....oooooooh!
Hahahaha
Team Black! But always listen what Alicent's daughter Helaena say! She can predict things! Beast beneath the boards she said and then it happends in the end of an episode!
NOOO I'M TEAM BLACK 🖤 AND ♥️
17:55 House Green for ONLY that reason, lol.😂
Beast beneath the boards was Rhanys and her dragon
I think they changed alicent from straight up lying about Vecrerys in the books to. Her misunderstanding him on the show because people would really hate Alicent if the6nstuck to the book.
The balls are just a symbol of the role they play in the council I am pretty sure. Akin to the pin of the Hand of the monarch. It shows that the Master of Coin is at the meeting for example, council members change but the role does not. It is how ever just a display of symbolism given that with the roles and the hand/monarch there are only seven people who sit at that table, you can clearly see who is in attendance and who is not, but... gotta be fancy about it I guess.
Speaking of symbolism, Lyman Beesbury who Ser Criston killed at the council meeting was killed by the representation of his position while he really died because of his position and role. He was in the council, only a king can authorise the changing of council members and there is now no king and the council must agree for stuff to move forward. His position on the heir made his position in the council untenable for the Greens and it was the representation of his power, that stupid little ball that ended him.
Rhaneys’ dragon is called Meleys “the red queen” she’s the fastest Targaryen dragon
You always time it just in time for my lunch!:)
Beast beneath the boards was the dragon Meleys lol
King Viserys may have looked old due to his disease but recall he was only 52 at death which is I’d say an appropriate age to have a 19 year old son.
I'm not team green at all, Team Black all the way, but Alicent's aggression was planted in her by Otto. She is truly convinced that if Rhaenyra takes the throne, her children will be executed
YES!!!! EXACTLY! Her dad used her like a puppet
So instead, they killed Rhaenyra's kids? And even her?
This is how "The Little Birds" got started
Tbh, Raenys should've just toasted em all when the crashed Aegon's coronation lmao but then we wouldn't have a story 😂
You said the beast beneath the boards, you watched her go downstairs to the dragon pit, you watched the beast come from beneath the boards
“That’s Daemon!!” What?!?!😂😂😂😂😂
Love the commitment. Also I have no idea how anyone is team green. I mean black are good either but the greens are treason and that side of the family is def not morally any better.
When I see Otto all I think is Little Nicky and The Replacements.