Everybody on that plan was dead by 10:00am except for Andreas. Why did he not enter the cockpit til impact. I assume flight attendants have a way to enter the cockpit ?
@@daafukulookinat4965 No one was aware that the cabin was depressurized until people started loosing consciousness, and acute hypoxia affects people differently. Andreas could have been close to one of the portable masks at the time and barely managed to get it on. The honest truth is that we will never know how he got to a mask or why it took so long for him to get to the cockpit. What we do know for certain is that he entered the security code for the cockpit door, sent 6 MAYDAY calls (but on the wrong frequency, he didn't know), and attempted as best he could with the pilot training he had to save the flight.
I read in another version of this that he was a scuba diver and perhaps was very aware of hypoxia symptoms which would explain why he was the only one who was able to figure out to get a better oxygen supply in time.
@TheWatanna Why wasn't that switch red tagged when the maintenance crew worked on the plane. This way if they would have forgotten to return the switch to auto the pilots would have immediately noticed this issue.
no it is because of catastrophically dumb designers who failed to have a warning with the spoken words of what the problem is or a alarm light with the problem WRITTEN on it. unbelievable how idiots get to design big aircraft
Just imagine that you're the only one alive on board the plane and seeing the corpses of the other 120 people while not being able to stop the plane from crashing, truly horrific. Thank you for making this, X-Pilot. :)
Those people on board werent dead, just unconscious. Their cause of death was the impact of the plane hitting ground. In the offical report from the AAIASB it is stated that every person on board had heart function till the point of impact. I quote : "All passenger and cabin crew samples tested negative for carbon monoxide and volatile poisons. The forensic report concluded that the aircraft occupants had heart function during the impact. The report noted that this did not necessarily imply that they were alert."
@@tranceyy generally yes, but you have to remember that brain damage only occurs when your brain is almost completely stripped of oxygen. At 8,800m the air still contains about 1/3 the amount of oxygen one would have at a normal altitude. While this is certainly enough to lose consciousness for untrained people, it is not enough to cause permanent brain damage in that period of time. For example there are people who attempt to climb Mount Everest without oxygen, and those people don't suffer permanent damage.
Apparently Andreas knew enough to turn the plane with the engines flamed out away from Athens. He was able to point it away so as not to crash into the City and kill more people. He truly is a hero.
The pilot didn't do his preflight checklist correctly. That would have solved everything. It is soley his fault for not doing that specifically. I was in the military for years, and a 18 year old just out of boot camp can complete any checklist you give him/her as long as they know what each item on the checklist is.
There is a very good episode of Air Crash Investigation about this disaster. In that episode it reveals that the only reason Andreas took this flight (which he was not scheduled to be on) was because his girlfriend was also on the flight. His father was also in the Greek military (or him I can't remember) and they both enjoyed activities such as diving and mountain climbing which may have explained how he was able to survive on low altitude. It took him a long time to gain acsess to the cockpit because the door was locked. It will not be known if he randomly guessed the code or more likely accessed the code from the senior flight attendant. Sadly however even if he had brought the plane down successfully almost all would have suffered critical brain damage due to the length of time at high altitude with little oxygen.
@@micheypatsa What exactly did the flight attendant do that made him a hero? He did what anyone of us would've done had we regained ourselves. His actions of attempting to save the plane were heroic but unfortunately unsuccessful.
@@TheSecondVersion By the time they dropped everyone probably had the mental state of a drunk 5 year old. Plane was decompressed from the moment it took off.
The final upload before the chanel was declared deceased... rest in peace x pilot. Gone but not forgotten. I hope your doing well and enjoying whatever life journey you are on now man.
With today's technology, it seems to me that ALL critical warnings should be spoken. Like "Sink rate! Sink rate! Pull up!" There should be one that says "Pressure! Pressure! Descend now! Descend now!"
I did a lot of research on this once as the whole thing was very troubling and interesting. The saddest part for me is that if Andreas would have landed the plane he would saved all those lives. However the effects of hypoxia means everyone would have suffered irreparable brain damage. For me that's just such a stranger fate than death, all those families getting a live corpse instead of a dead one. I think that would have made the grievance process far worse and prolonged than it had it be. Very very sad story this one.
Oh yeah. In law school we covered one case of a woman who underwent a routine gall bladder surgery, but her surgeons incorrectly intubated her airway, so her brain was oxygen depleted for several minutes. The doctors didn't even realize anything was wrong until someone noticed her fingernails were turning blue. She was left in a vegetative state. What was extra haunting was that the litigation took *20 years* before it was finally settled by the Supreme Court. So that entire time, her grieving family incurred expenses to keep her brain-dead body alive.
It’s really a interesting story on what happened to Helios airways that day, and btw x pilot I love ur videos man I must say they make me feel deep into what the situation is. Keep up the good work (Edit) Woah! Thank u guys for so many likes, Ik it’s not much but it’s the most I’ve ever received on a comment, thank u guys soo much
Seems like so many mkstakes piled up from the engineers, pilots and the aircraft manafacturers. Why there wouldnt be an auto drop for the pilot masks, or a special warning light for cabin depressurization is crazy. Very sad story
X Pilot also did a video on a similar incident, the 1999 South Dakota Learjet Crash. The pilots passed out in the middle of running through a troubleshooting checklist. A list that, oddly enough, did NOT instruct the pilots to put on their oxygen masks as Step 1.
@@DominikoPL But why do they even need to rely on a warning light and then a crew response? If the sensors have detected that the cabin isn't pressurised at a dangerous altitude, then surely, surely it should be the case that cabin pressurisation is automatically activated? And why don't worded warnings show up on a digital screen indicating exactly what the warning is, like "low cabin pressure", etc.
@@DominikoPL Thank you for your time in responding. Well, I sure hope that modern aircrafts make it much easier to identify faults or improper settings, because this is the only one of these air emergency recreation videos I've seen so far that truly had me concerned about flying. It seemed like it should have been such an obvious thing for the crew to identify.
Their masks did drop, they just didn't understand why so didn't put them on. They missed the pressurization switch being set to manual, 3 times during their checklists. So they must not have ran through their checklists or missed the difference between manual and auto.
I love these, its always intriguing to me to watch these and know the technicalities in every flight and what happened and how it has affected flight today. I really love your stuff and you should keep doing what you are doing. :)
When working, details are very important, no matter how small or unimportant it may seem. I will remember this while working. RIP😥. Thank you for sharing.
I was 15 years old back then and was visiting my aunt from Cyprus for the summer with my grandmother and cousin ... and we actyally had ticketns on this plane but my aunt decided that we have to stay for longer till the september so she changed the tickets in the last moment. Me and my grandmother could be on the board of that plane. I remember when we saw the news in the morhing ... the emontions ... we all where crying.
These videos are absolutely riveting. It didnt hit me that this was Payne Stewart’s flight until about half way in. Im not a huge golfer, but always liked the guy. May God bless the 121 souls who perished on that day.
I can't imagine being the engineer who left that switch on manual! That being said, there must be hundreds of switches in the cockpit, and having worked in a plant production environment things get confusing real fast, and that's without the hypoxia making it impossible to think clearly.
Cameron Sours Wouldn’t that be the first thing to check out if the cabin pressure is normal once the aircraft reaches a certain altitude? I can’t believe two pilots did not once bother to ensure this.
@Cameron Sours There should be a red tag placed on that control when the maintenance crew changed the setting from normal/auto. That way if they forgot the pilots would have known immediately that something wasn't right with the tag staring your right in the face. Much like lockout tags are used in manufacturing plants.
very excellent video. im also really happy you brought back the whole real-time flying part of the video. you're an excellent person doing an excellent job
This is what I'm always saying. There is no such thing as perfection in aviation. Plane crashes will continue to happen. Human error will always be a problem. They get tired, mad, hurried, forgetful, lazy, neglectful ... it will never end. Whenever humans are involved, failure is just around the corner.
I commented here over a year ago wondering of your whereabouts, I have watched every one of your videos and re watching them. I hope you come back eventually I miss you so much xpilot :(
It doesn't take long for hypoxia to take effect. I recommend watching a few videos that show this condition in action to give yourself better perspective. Don't worry, they're in controlled environments.
@Johnny M Indeed, as soon as I saw those masks deploy I would had had it on! Then I would have probably used masks up the aisle to reach the cockpit and see if I could get to the pilots..This is one of those times when you need to use your best judgement and take action to survive.
It was not part of their training. Probably their training states, first dawn your masks, then help the rest and wait for pilot information. They just sat there, as they run out of oxigen and passed out. Maybe one eventually try to call them to inform, but it was too late. Your reaction under life or dead stress is not always logical, it's driven mostly by training.
@@XPilotYT Hope it's busy in a good way, it's been a bit of a year hasn't it? Love your videos and looking forward to your next upload. Thanks for the content!
@@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet he said that he doing well. Have a lot to care for, but he's doing well. No worries. When he's ready, we'll be here. You all are in my thoughts for peace and better days to come. Please be safe.
I have to confess, I was cracking up at the moving planes in this video. It reminded me of the dangling planes in an SNL skit. Great job as always x Pilot! Missed you! This story was heartbreaking.
*FYI FOR PASSENGERS! THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SUPPLEMENTAL OXYGEN BOTTLES AROUND THE CABIN USUALLY THEY ARE IN THE GALLEY AREAS AND ALSO SOMETIMES IN OVERHEAD BINS AND THE COVER OF THE BIN SHOULD BE LABELED AS HAVING O2.*
This one is particularly sad. Only one conscious person aboard the plane, who took the controls to try and save everyone on board but he couldn't because it ran out of fuel. The amount of grief and guilt that probably caused, on top of the fear of his own impending death, is just unimaginable how tough it had to be to deal with all of that. Andreas Prodromou is still a hero in my book.
It was the engineer who checked the plane before. When he checked cabin pressure with the engines off. The switch changed to “manual” and the flight crew did not know that. As the flight crew was responsible for changing air pressure during flight.
Hey X Pilot! I’m probably the only one who’s maybe noticed or asking this but what happened to your 9/11 videos? I found out about this fantastic channel because of your 9/11 videos and they were most popular on your channel! Just curious as to what happened to them because I really really enjoyed watching them and it taught me soo much information that the internet wouldn’t tell me.
@@ryanschacht_ nah it’s because some people lost family members or friends on 9/11 and making a video reenacting a crash would make the uploaded forget all about the deaths and missing people so that’s why it’s gone
@@jamesmonroe1441 that is a true point mate thanks for giving me an answer been longing why he got rid of them but I mean at the end of the day, yes it’s extremely sad but… if you don’t want to see it then don’t watch it. Simple
I like how calling the operation center for when my plane isnt working is pretty much the same procedure as when I need to call my internet company as to why my internet isnt working.
But why did the guy wait for more than 2 hours before calling for assistance? He might have been totally horrified and scared. If there was another attendant with the portable oxygen, maybe at least they two would make it out alive... teamwork was horrible anyway (oxygen masks deploy, and staff don't ask the captains what's up?) This might be the saddest disaster of all.
He did try to make a mayday call, but the aircraft was in a frequency that was out of range (Larnaca Air space if I’m not mistaken), so the flight attendant was actually recorded on the black boxes making 3-4 mayday calls but no one heard him because he didn’t realize the aircraft was on the wrong frequency. It’s also sad because the operations manager nearly prevented the accident but the captain decided to ignore him. Just thought I’d clear things up🤗
I think as well at that altitude with no oxygen its the same height as everest. Although it takes maybe one minute to walk down an aircraft normally imagine walking it like Everest. Your muscles are tired and aching, your head is pounding, your confused and dazed you can't breathe... It would take a long time.
@@dennyhuang240 I recommend watching a few videos on hypoxia effects. It kicks in QUICK and basically turns you into a barely functioning 5 year old before you pass out.
He had to bust the cockpit door open. It's really interesting there seemed to be a lot of controversy mentioning that at the time because apparently after 9/11 it became mandatory but a lot of airline employees were displeased with it and a man mentioned this exact situation in a stance against it. He literally had to force his way in with limited oxygen.
Very good video. Hit me right in the feels... such a tragic and avoidable situation. The only thing you should try to fix is some of the "rubber banding" that the planes displayed a few times. Otherwise these videos are REALLY good.
Why did it run out of fuel so quickly ? Also, every child that is brought up well knows to put his toys back in the box. Same with a machine, you fiddle it with you reverse all your steps at the end. Cascade of errors: Engineers don't reset switch. Pre-flight checks were sloppy. Then misreading of alarm.
I've seen loads of these air accident recreations and none of them have made me worried about flying... until this one. So much about this incident is baffling and scary. Are planes really this poorly designed? The plane's sensors have clearly detected that there's low air pressure inside the cabin (which will incapacitate/kill all on board), so why is it left to warnings/crew response to turn cabin pressurisation on? Surely it should automatically turn on if low air pressure is detected at a dangerous altitude?! And why isn't there a digital screen giving a clear worded notification of what the warning is, such as "low air pressure". Honestly, which idiots designed these planes?
The newer 737-800s have a "CABIN ALTITUDE" light along with the warning horn. But since the accident aircraft was a 737-300, it didn't have that feature. Manual operation of the cabin pressurization system has to exist in case of a rapid/explosive decompression or when an engineer needs to test the pressurization on the ground using the APU. Of course it's a very bad idea to use the same warning sound as the take-off config warning, but those pilots were supposed to check the pressurization system before take-off and after take-off.
The saddest part of all this to me is the Helios Engineer specifically asking about the pressurization switch. I know hindsight is 20/20 and all, but it really makes you wish he would have pressed them to answer his question instead of answering the Captain's question in response. He probably knew that the Takeoff Config Alarm and the Depressurization Alarm sounded alike and knew that was most likely the problem right away.
Great animations. As usual, it takes multiple failures for a modern commercial plane to crash. I don't understand the behavior of the FA, who had a commercial pilot's license. It looks like everyone on the plane would have become unconscious by about 0935 at the latest as the supplemental O2 ran out. It was from that point until 1149 that the F-16 pilot reported seeing someone moving around the flight deck. I believe the emergency O2 tank on a 737 is a D cylinder, and it should last about 3 hours with a rebreather mask. If the FA was following procedure, he should have gone on the emergency tank ASAP after the masks dropped. My question is what was the FA doing during that approx two hour period? He wasn't just an FA, he was a qualified commercial pilot. He hadn't qqualified on a 737 at that point, but he should have known the masks dropping indicated big trouble. If he would have gotten to the cockpit by, say, even 1000, he would have had about 45 minutes of fuel left and could have started a descent to FL 120 so he no longer required the oxygen. I'm pretty certain that everyone on the plane but him was dead so I can't see him trying to revive passengers for almost two hours without once checking the cockpit. He was heard calling "Mayday" five times on the CVR but the radio was still set to Larnia ATC, so the aircraft was too far away to be heard by them. It appears from the CVR that he didn't get in the captain's seat until shortly before the #1 engine shut down, presumably from fuel starvation. If he wasn't on O2 for the entire period, he also would have been dead for acute hypoxia. It only takes a fit person about 30 seconds to go unconscious at 34,000 feet, so he must have been on the emergency tank right off the bat. I'm just baffled about this, but maybe someone knows more details. I haven't yet read through the whole investigation report, so maybe the answers are in there.
What happened to this channel? Come back, dude.
Yeh man, weird he's just disappeared. I miss these vids.
I just found this channel today and I’m kind of sad that he hasn’t uploaded within a year
4 months ago in a (now deleted) comment he said that he's doing well, but he's busy and he'll upload again eventually.
Imagine having 123 000 subscribers and you just drop the ball.
He needs to come back
Andreas Prodromou's family should definitely be honored for his efforts.
Everybody on that plan was dead by 10:00am except for Andreas. Why did he not enter the cockpit til impact. I assume flight attendants have a way to enter the cockpit ?
@@daafukulookinat4965 No one was aware that the cabin was depressurized until people started loosing consciousness, and acute hypoxia affects people differently. Andreas could have been close to one of the portable masks at the time and barely managed to get it on.
The honest truth is that we will never know how he got to a mask or why it took so long for him to get to the cockpit. What we do know for certain is that he entered the security code for the cockpit door, sent 6 MAYDAY calls (but on the wrong frequency, he didn't know), and attempted as best he could with the pilot training he had to save the flight.
@@MarkiusFox Mark, you just regurgitated what I said
I read in another version of this that he was a scuba diver and perhaps was very aware of hypoxia symptoms which would explain why he was the only one who was able to figure out to get a better oxygen supply in time.
@@daafukulookinat4965 You worded it as a question. If you do not want a question answered, then you should be mindful of your punctuation.
All of those people died because of a switch that no one noticed, such a shame. RIP. Thank you for posting.
imagine being the one dude who had enough sense to use a portable oxygen tank, and seeing everyone dead around you including the pilots.
@TheWatanna
Why wasn't that switch red tagged when the maintenance crew worked on the plane. This way if they would have forgotten to return the switch to auto the pilots would have immediately noticed this issue.
no it is because of catastrophically dumb designers who failed to have a warning with the spoken words of what the problem is or a alarm light with the problem WRITTEN on it. unbelievable how idiots get to design big aircraft
i dont udnerstand how something like this is even possible. why is there no system for these things???
@@nw6070 you can’t do it on every single switch
Just imagine that you're the only one alive on board the plane and seeing the corpses of the other 120 people while not being able to stop the plane from crashing, truly horrific.
Thank you for making this, X-Pilot. :)
What do you mean by corpses?
Corpses as in the unconscious husk of the once passenger
Those people on board werent dead, just unconscious. Their cause of death was the impact of the plane hitting ground. In the offical report from the AAIASB it is stated that every person on board had heart function till the point of impact.
I quote :
"All passenger and cabin crew samples tested negative for carbon monoxide and volatile poisons. The forensic report concluded that the aircraft occupants had heart function during the impact. The report noted that this did not necessarily imply that they were alert."
@@Soulise1o1 but lack of oxygen badly damaged their brain, isn't it?
@@tranceyy generally yes, but you have to remember that brain damage only occurs when your brain is almost completely stripped of oxygen. At 8,800m the air still contains about 1/3 the amount of oxygen one would have at a normal altitude.
While this is certainly enough to lose consciousness for untrained people, it is not enough to cause permanent brain damage in that period of time.
For example there are people who attempt to climb Mount Everest without oxygen, and those people don't suffer permanent damage.
Apparently Andreas knew enough to turn the plane with the engines flamed out away from Athens. He was able to point it away so as not to crash into the City and kill more people. He truly is a hero.
Do you have a source for this?
@@Overhemd wikipedia lol
We still miss you, hope you come back one day!!
Jeeeez, a lot of things went wrong on this one.
Really glad to see you uploading again , Xpilot!
The pilot didn't do his preflight checklist correctly. That would have solved everything. It is soley his fault for not doing that specifically. I was in the military for years, and a 18 year old just out of boot camp can complete any checklist you give him/her as long as they know what each item on the checklist is.
There is a very good episode of Air Crash Investigation about this disaster. In that episode it reveals that the only reason Andreas took this flight (which he was not scheduled to be on) was because his girlfriend was also on the flight.
His father was also in the Greek military (or him I can't remember) and they both enjoyed activities such as diving and mountain climbing which may have explained how he was able to survive on low altitude.
It took him a long time to gain acsess to the cockpit because the door was locked. It will not be known if he randomly guessed the code or more likely accessed the code from the senior flight attendant.
Sadly however even if he had brought the plane down successfully almost all would have suffered critical brain damage due to the length of time at high altitude with little oxygen.
Dude was a real life, Die Hard action movie protagonist who didn't have enough luck
God, the fear that flight attendant must have experienced. Great video!
He was in the military, he had it covered and was a hero.
@@micheypatsa What exactly did the flight attendant do that made him a hero? He did what anyone of us would've done had we regained ourselves. His actions of attempting to save the plane were heroic but unfortunately unsuccessful.
@@thomasdaniels6824 Oh fuck off, youd have pussied out and screamed for mommy like most of us.
@@thomasdaniels6824 "what anyone of us would've done" you don't know many humans do you lol
The oxygen masks dropped, meaning some sensor knew that there was low O2. This crash was preventable on so many levels
Attendant: "Excuse me captain, but the passenger oxygen masks have dropped"
Pilot: "Huh, ain't that the weirdest thing..."
@@TheSecondVersion By the time they dropped everyone probably had the mental state of a drunk 5 year old. Plane was decompressed from the moment it took off.
At that altitude, it takes literal seconds to lose consciousness.
This comment section really proves how ignorant you guys are about airplanes and how aviation works
The final upload before the chanel was declared deceased... rest in peace x pilot. Gone but not forgotten. I hope your doing well and enjoying whatever life journey you are on now man.
yeah
When he went to all caps I knew it was doomed
Does anyone know what happened to him
@@agalvao14 He said in a comment that he's busy but he'll return to TH-cam eventually
He back
Before Allec Joshua Ibay and The Flight Channel, you were my entrance to aviation knowledge. Hope you are great, new videos are very much missed.
With today's technology, it seems to me that ALL critical warnings should be spoken.
Like "Sink rate! Sink rate! Pull up!" There should be one that says "Pressure! Pressure! Descend now! Descend now!"
Good idea
Andreas, you are a smart, brave hero.
Great job, XPilot. Thanks for sharing.
I did a lot of research on this once as the whole thing was very troubling and interesting. The saddest part for me is that if Andreas would have landed the plane he would saved all those lives. However the effects of hypoxia means everyone would have suffered irreparable brain damage. For me that's just such a stranger fate than death, all those families getting a live corpse instead of a dead one. I think that would have made the grievance process far worse and prolonged than it had it be. Very very sad story this one.
Oh yeah. In law school we covered one case of a woman who underwent a routine gall bladder surgery, but her surgeons incorrectly intubated her airway, so her brain was oxygen depleted for several minutes. The doctors didn't even realize anything was wrong until someone noticed her fingernails were turning blue. She was left in a vegetative state.
What was extra haunting was that the litigation took *20 years* before it was finally settled by the Supreme Court. So that entire time, her grieving family incurred expenses to keep her brain-dead body alive.
We miss you X Pilot! These videos are the best of their kind on youtube.
I love your videos, I hope all is well & you upload in future. If not, thank you for the work you put into the channel.
It’s really a interesting story on what happened to Helios airways that day, and btw x pilot I love ur videos man I must say they make me feel deep into what the situation is. Keep up the good work
(Edit) Woah! Thank u guys for so many likes, Ik it’s not much but it’s the most I’ve ever received on a comment, thank u guys soo much
I've watched every single video on this channel... I understand the need for XPilot to move on but man I loved these vids.
Seems like so many mkstakes piled up from the engineers, pilots and the aircraft manafacturers. Why there wouldnt be an auto drop for the pilot masks, or a special warning light for cabin depressurization is crazy. Very sad story
Yeah how could one switch be able to kill the entire crew and passengers without anyone being able to figure it out. Some bad design
X Pilot also did a video on a similar incident, the 1999 South Dakota Learjet Crash. The pilots passed out in the middle of running through a troubleshooting checklist. A list that, oddly enough, did NOT instruct the pilots to put on their oxygen masks as Step 1.
@@DominikoPL But why do they even need to rely on a warning light and then a crew response? If the sensors have detected that the cabin isn't pressurised at a dangerous altitude, then surely, surely it should be the case that cabin pressurisation is automatically activated? And why don't worded warnings show up on a digital screen indicating exactly what the warning is, like "low cabin pressure", etc.
@@DominikoPL Thank you for your time in responding. Well, I sure hope that modern aircrafts make it much easier to identify faults or improper settings, because this is the only one of these air emergency recreation videos I've seen so far that truly had me concerned about flying. It seemed like it should have been such an obvious thing for the crew to identify.
Their masks did drop, they just didn't understand why so didn't put them on. They missed the pressurization switch being set to manual, 3 times during their checklists. So they must not have ran through their checklists or missed the difference between manual and auto.
OMG X PILOT UPLOADED?!
lol hi yt
@@Aviatial heyyyyy
I love these, its always intriguing to me to watch these and know the technicalities in every flight and what happened and how it has affected flight today. I really love your stuff and you should keep doing what you are doing. :)
haunting accident. so many lives lost due to one small switch.
When working, details are very important, no matter how small or unimportant it may seem. I will remember this while working. RIP😥. Thank you for sharing.
This is one of the best ones I’ve seen. So tragic.
I was 15 years old back then and was visiting my aunt from Cyprus for the summer with my grandmother and cousin ... and we actyally had ticketns on this plane but my aunt decided that we have to stay for longer till the september so she changed the tickets in the last moment. Me and my grandmother could be on the board of that plane. I remember when we saw the news in the morhing ... the emontions ... we all where crying.
the terrible grammar ruins this comment
@@veilside0nine He might have been a Cypriot, or a Greek. Both speak the same language, and that language is not english.
@@PAVLOS2000 yeah i know but it kinda ruins the story hes telling
The delicate balance between safety and getting as many flights in the air as possible. Amazing story.
i’m so happy you uploaded! i feel like i’ve watched every video since i’ve discovered this channel & always waiting for more!
These videos are absolutely riveting. It didnt hit me that this was Payne Stewart’s flight until about half way in. Im not a huge golfer, but always liked the guy. May God bless the 121 souls who perished on that day.
I dont think it was, this was in 2005
Hey hope you are in good health and spirits given everything going on in the world.
Really miss your videos, hope to see a new one some day
4 months ago in a (now deleted) comment he said that he's doing well, but he's busy and he'll upload again eventually
Just one switch. Damn it's scary how fragile these things are
I can't imagine being the engineer who left that switch on manual! That being said, there must be hundreds of switches in the cockpit, and having worked in a plant production environment things get confusing real fast, and that's without the hypoxia making it impossible to think clearly.
Cameron Sours Wouldn’t that be the first thing to check out if the cabin pressure is normal once the aircraft reaches a certain altitude? I can’t believe two pilots did not once bother to ensure this.
@Cameron Sours
There should be a red tag placed on that control when the maintenance crew changed the setting from normal/auto. That way if they forgot the pilots would have known immediately that something wasn't right with the tag staring your right in the face. Much like lockout tags are used in manufacturing plants.
very excellent video. im also really happy you brought back the whole real-time flying part of the video. you're an excellent person doing an excellent job
Wow xpilot is still alive!
so happy to see you back!!!
This is what I'm always saying. There is no such thing as perfection in aviation. Plane crashes will continue to happen. Human error will always be a problem. They get tired, mad, hurried, forgetful, lazy, neglectful ... it will never end. Whenever humans are involved, failure is just around the corner.
Hopefully he posts again
Finally a new video - thank you :)
Damn all that because of one switch being turned wrong
I’ve watched every video already man I misss you my favourite TH-cam channel
I commented here over a year ago wondering of your whereabouts, I have watched every one of your videos and re watching them. I hope you come back eventually I miss you so much xpilot :(
Why in hell wouldn't the flight crew ask the captain, hey, why did the masks deploy? Makes zero sense
Probably everyone on board was already more or mess affected by hypoxia, impairing their thought processes.
It doesn't take long for hypoxia to take effect. I recommend watching a few videos that show this condition in action to give yourself better perspective. Don't worry, they're in controlled environments.
@@AS-er4ud yeah, this video for instance: th-cam.com/video/kUfF2MTnqAw/w-d-xo.html
@Johnny M
Indeed, as soon as I saw those masks deploy I would had had it on!
Then I would have probably used masks up the aisle to reach the cockpit and see if I could get to the pilots..This is one of those times when you need to use your best judgement and take action to survive.
It was not part of their training. Probably their training states, first dawn your masks, then help the rest and wait for pilot information.
They just sat there, as they run out of oxigen and passed out.
Maybe one eventually try to call them to inform, but it was too late.
Your reaction under life or dead stress is not always logical, it's driven mostly by training.
What a tragedy. Feel so bad for the passengers and crew. Thank you for sharing!
man, this channel used to get me thinking about flying everyday, now I've completely forgotten. Where you at?
Nice video I always wanted to see Helios 522 in xplane
the lone survivors descent must've been so terrifying, RIP :(
Another GREAT video, X Pilot.. We love them.. please keep them coming... 👍
New X-Pilot!! Great job bro ;) Your quality is superb.
I hope you upload again. You're my favourite channel
Unreal...scary stuff...you make.awesome vids keep.up.the great work
Haven't heard from you in a while, fella. Hope you're well.
Yea in know
Thank you for your uploads. Well done!
Great vid X Pilot!
god its been so long, i remember this channel still, we need him back.
This Channel is awesome! How do you not have millions of subscribers :D I just subscribed anyways and am on a binge of your videos haha, keep it up!
This story always gets to me. Great video 👍🏼
yo make these kinda videos every weekend or everyday. it is very entertaining also very informative dude
Love your videos.
Thanks a lot man.
Miss you X. I hope you and your family are well. Can't wait to see more of your work.
@@XPilotYT wonderful to hear. Take your time, you have many dedicated fans supporting you. Thanks for all you do. Stay safe and Best wishes.
@@XPilotYT
Hope it's busy in a good way, it's been a bit of a year hasn't it? Love your videos and looking forward to your next upload. Thanks for the content!
@@XPilotYT hi X Pilot you ok???
@@tristenalexander814 what did he say??
@@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet he said that he doing well. Have a lot to care for, but he's doing well. No worries. When he's ready, we'll be here.
You all are in my thoughts for peace and better days to come. Please be safe.
I have to confess, I was cracking up at the moving planes in this video. It reminded me of the dangling planes in an SNL skit. Great job as always x Pilot! Missed you! This story was heartbreaking.
Love your videos. Keep up the great work!
He's baaaaaaaaacccckkk
Not sure if you’ll ever see this, but I’ve been missing your content. Hopefully you return soon!
thought this was a reupload for a minute til I realized The Flight Channel did this a year ago LOL
Love your videos, full of info, more reliable than Wikipedia (lol)
aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20000212-
Im thinking he should do Aeroflot 521 next. 😄
*FYI FOR PASSENGERS! THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SUPPLEMENTAL OXYGEN BOTTLES AROUND THE CABIN USUALLY THEY ARE IN THE GALLEY AREAS AND ALSO SOMETIMES IN OVERHEAD BINS AND THE COVER OF THE BIN SHOULD BE LABELED AS HAVING O2.*
Its been 9 months, where are you man?!
he died from covid-19 his name was Jahmed Alshaar
@@backupaccount5279 Wait what?! How did you know?
@@Interdictiondeltawing i don't. i'm just trying to get him upload :D
@@backupaccount5279 oh lol
@@backupaccount5279 Was his name seriously Jahmed Alshaar?
Welcome back
Bro forgot the password
Hey! We miss you. Hope you’re doing fine
RIP to all those that died.Good explanation by you Xpilot!
It’s wild how truly easy it is for a plane to go down. One flip of a switch and 120+ folks gone. Crazy man.
Hi X-Pilot, I still miss your channel. I was subbed since 90K subs and I really miss the vids. Please come back!
I'm so happy to see your video in my subs! Am I crazy or is the description at 10:07 the same as the frame right after?
This one is particularly sad. Only one conscious person aboard the plane, who took the controls to try and save everyone on board but he couldn't because it ran out of fuel. The amount of grief and guilt that probably caused, on top of the fear of his own impending death, is just unimaginable how tough it had to be to deal with all of that. Andreas Prodromou is still a hero in my book.
Great video. But I liked it without music better. Like how you did it previously
It was the engineer who checked the plane before. When he checked cabin pressure with the engines off. The switch changed to “manual” and the flight crew did not know that. As the flight crew was responsible for changing air pressure during flight.
Hey X Pilot! I’m probably the only one who’s maybe noticed or asking this but what happened to your 9/11 videos? I found out about this fantastic channel because of your 9/11 videos and they were most popular on your channel! Just curious as to what happened to them because I really really enjoyed watching them and it taught me soo much information that the internet wouldn’t tell me.
That's true, his 9/11 videos, along with a couple of others, seem to be gone from the channel. I really wonder what happened.
@@sanstheskeleton2561 maybe he got hate on them by idiots who don’t understand the matter
@@ryanschacht_ nah it’s because some people lost family members or friends on 9/11 and making a video reenacting a crash would make the uploaded forget all about the deaths and missing people so that’s why it’s gone
@@jamesmonroe1441 that is a true point mate thanks for giving me an answer been longing why he got rid of them but I mean at the end of the day, yes it’s extremely sad but… if you don’t want to see it then don’t watch it. Simple
@@ryanschacht_ maybe TH-cam also took it down for violating tos since it was a terrorist event
I like how calling the operation center for when my plane isnt working is pretty much the same procedure as when I need to call my internet company as to why my internet isnt working.
But why did the guy wait for more than 2 hours before calling for assistance? He might have been totally horrified and scared. If there was another attendant with the portable oxygen, maybe at least they two would make it out alive... teamwork was horrible anyway (oxygen masks deploy, and staff don't ask the captains what's up?) This might be the saddest disaster of all.
He did try to make a mayday call, but the aircraft was in a frequency that was out of range (Larnaca Air space if I’m not mistaken), so the flight attendant was actually recorded on the black boxes making 3-4 mayday calls but no one heard him because he didn’t realize the aircraft was on the wrong frequency. It’s also sad because the operations manager nearly prevented the accident but the captain decided to ignore him. Just thought I’d clear things up🤗
I think as well at that altitude with no oxygen its the same height as everest. Although it takes maybe one minute to walk down an aircraft normally imagine walking it like Everest. Your muscles are tired and aching, your head is pounding, your confused and dazed you can't breathe... It would take a long time.
Zły Wilk I knew that aha
@@dennyhuang240 I recommend watching a few videos on hypoxia effects. It kicks in QUICK and basically turns you into a barely functioning 5 year old before you pass out.
He had to bust the cockpit door open. It's really interesting there seemed to be a lot of controversy mentioning that at the time because apparently after 9/11 it became mandatory but a lot of airline employees were displeased with it and a man mentioned this exact situation in a stance against it. He literally had to force his way in with limited oxygen.
Miss u xpilot
Nice job. I would like to see new videos.
Please come back 😢
Yay! New video
Very good video. Hit me right in the feels... such a tragic and avoidable situation.
The only thing you should try to fix is some of the "rubber banding" that the planes displayed a few times. Otherwise these videos are REALLY good.
Where is this man been for two years he was the best content Creator I know
Anyone still home at this channel?
Love this channel
Why did it run out of fuel so quickly ?
Also, every child that is brought up well knows to put his toys back in the box. Same with a machine, you fiddle it with you reverse all your steps at the end. Cascade of errors: Engineers don't reset switch. Pre-flight checks were sloppy. Then misreading of alarm.
Total noob here. I suppose it was filled just enough to reach Athens, maybe with some backup.
when will you start uploading vids again because it has been 10 months since this vid was uploaded
I've seen loads of these air accident recreations and none of them have made me worried about flying... until this one. So much about this incident is baffling and scary. Are planes really this poorly designed? The plane's sensors have clearly detected that there's low air pressure inside the cabin (which will incapacitate/kill all on board), so why is it left to warnings/crew response to turn cabin pressurisation on? Surely it should automatically turn on if low air pressure is detected at a dangerous altitude?! And why isn't there a digital screen giving a clear worded notification of what the warning is, such as "low air pressure". Honestly, which idiots designed these planes?
The newer 737-800s have a "CABIN ALTITUDE" light along with the warning horn. But since the accident aircraft was a 737-300, it didn't have that feature. Manual operation of the cabin pressurization system has to exist in case of a rapid/explosive decompression or when an engineer needs to test the pressurization on the ground using the APU. Of course it's a very bad idea to use the same warning sound as the take-off config warning, but those pilots were supposed to check the pressurization system before take-off and after take-off.
i hope you return soon. such quality videos.
The saddest part of all this to me is the Helios Engineer specifically asking about the pressurization switch. I know hindsight is 20/20 and all, but it really makes you wish he would have pressed them to answer his question instead of answering the Captain's question in response. He probably knew that the Takeoff Config Alarm and the Depressurization Alarm sounded alike and knew that was most likely the problem right away.
Everything is impossible until you do it.
Don’t know where I heard that from but it’s not my quote.
Great content 👍
This was just like that one flight you did with the famous golfer from orlando to Huston
RIP Payne Stewart
Hats off to the engineer that immediately knew the issue. It’s a shame they didn’t catch it prior to take off.
please come back!
Great animations. As usual, it takes multiple failures for a modern commercial plane to crash. I don't understand the behavior of the FA, who had a commercial pilot's license. It looks like everyone on the plane would have become unconscious by about 0935 at the latest as the supplemental O2 ran out. It was from that point until 1149 that the F-16 pilot reported seeing someone moving around the flight deck. I believe the emergency O2 tank on a 737 is a D cylinder, and it should last about 3 hours with a rebreather mask. If the FA was following procedure, he should have gone on the emergency tank ASAP after the masks dropped.
My question is what was the FA doing during that approx two hour period? He wasn't just an FA, he was a qualified commercial pilot. He hadn't qqualified on a 737 at that point, but he should have known the masks dropping indicated big trouble. If he would have gotten to the cockpit by, say, even 1000, he would have had about 45 minutes of fuel left and could have started a descent to FL 120 so he no longer required the oxygen. I'm pretty certain that everyone on the plane but him was dead so I can't see him trying to revive passengers for almost two hours without once checking the cockpit. He was heard calling "Mayday" five times on the CVR but the radio was still set to Larnia ATC, so the aircraft was too far away to be heard by them. It appears from the CVR that he didn't get in the captain's seat until shortly before the #1 engine shut down, presumably from fuel starvation. If he wasn't on O2 for the entire period, he also would have been dead for acute hypoxia. It only takes a fit person about 30 seconds to go unconscious at 34,000 feet, so he must have been on the emergency tank right off the bat. I'm just baffled about this, but maybe someone knows more details. I haven't yet read through the whole investigation report, so maybe the answers are in there.
Why was the alarm “expected”
I think it should read "unexpected"
@@Domhnall_A_Ghalltachd yes, I think it's just a clerical error.
We miss you X pilot. Please come back
I think he will return soon