I’ve met a lot of scary people! Most of them outta the woods! The scariest person I’ve ever met was myself back in the day! Drugs , bad decisions, and terrible relationships made me a scared unhinged a hole ! I look back now and what a waste of time and energy! My advice, find a good woman or friends you can trust and look at life as riding a bike , look forward and move ahead ! Aim for the sky don’t ever give up!
Life is lessons know doubt..And without those life lessons you do not know how to stop the self sabotage and the bad lifestyle choices..Strife brings Life for some.. The special kinda folks make it thru..
Really enjoyed this. I agree with you pretty much 100 percent. I trust no one off the bat. Men are very unpredictable and I believe most people have ulterior motives. If you are afraid of a strong competent woman you’re not a man. Treat people as you want to be treated is the moral of the story. Trust is earned not given.
I generally don't trust women, I personally know many good men who have had their lives ruined through divorce, however that hasn't stopped me from finding a good woman. Just like this bear vs. man thing shows women don't generally trust men, but it doesn't stop them from putting themselves in a vulnerable position with strange men, places like bars/nightclubs. Life is full of risk and learning risk assessment is an important skill. Finally, anyone who is offended by the answer to bear vs. man question is probably a city slicker. I live in the woods and spend most of my time in the woods outside of my private property. Whenever I come across another man in the woods my first thought is, "What are you doing out here?", and they likely think the same about me.
Logger PHILosophy!! Working man wisdom.. You need a whole talk show! In the truck on the way to work! I particularly enjoyed the passion with which you use the word "cull". Enjoyed this very much, thanks.
Good listen. If either of you are readers, I suggest the book called “The Gift of Fear”. It talks a lot about human behavior and to trust your intuition. Go with your first instinct and don’t let someone talk you out of it because as soon as you let your guard down, that’s when bad happens. As far as the original topic, I’ve never been in a situation where I’ve said “if that animal does this or that I’m pulling the trigger. But I have with a man. Luckily he went straight instead of turning toward me or the outcome would not have been good.
When the going gets tough the tough turn Pro..Had run ins with Many mountain lions..Grizzlies. Brown and black bears while doing my thing but when i gotta go 2 town to grab provisions my head is Always on a swivel..People have changed.I am still the same and will Never be a Victim..
That whole creepy stalker thing, must be generational thing. As gen x, we just didn't see that, or maybe they were to scared to get the shit kicked out of them. Too many creepers I think just haven't been punched in the face, and have false sense of security maybe?
It's sad that you have to defend your actions and beliefs, obviously your detractors have never been a victim of violence or robbery. If they want to be helpless, more power to them.
I think you are articulated quite well and I appreciate this I wish I had your insight when I was your age truly I say God bless you my best to you and yours God bless
Oh I definitely stand by my creed, and also address the deep cracks in society that I think are a problem. Maybe someone will listen in the right frame of mind and get to thinking about life in a different way
Everyone should be armed and ready 24/7 everyone should have minimal training. Mindset is everything when combined with your most basic level of training. I'll finish with "an armed society is a polite society" don't recall we who said that originally at the moment but it's 💯 true.
If you're scared of a woman, then you're not a man , if a woman or man can do the job then. You shouldn't look at that person any less . This is what is wrong with the world today .Other Pople allway what to control other people and will not listen or respect pople boundaries in the way they live there life.😊.worry about yourself unless you're are asked. It great to hear what you has to say .
Podcast could be cool. Maybe a call in for the audience once in awhile to expand the dialogue. Sidenote....that drive into town from the woods.....yeesh 😒 "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the expanding needs of the bureaucracy." Society pfft. This is a topic for call in. I don't like to give concessions anymore but, I will this time; there are a lot of really good people still in this world. With that being said, this society has been sick for awhile and is becoming more sick. We are seeing the fruits each generation more than the last. What were the milestones? We have yet to see what (though we see glimpses) the full ramifications of a generation raised on technology is....we have allowed ourselves to become lab rats. And worse, we consume our demise like junkies. Meanwhile behind the curtain........huge topic. As far as the wife goes...I don't have an opinion beyond 1) love that you both work together and 2) the women in my family are also armed soooo...pretty standard because, society pfft. Sorry, I'm a blabber mouth.
The part that struck me the most out of all of this conversation was the fact that you don't talk to your mom. Out of the 4 of us, my mom liked me the least, but I was the one who looked after her till she passed away . Good men love their mothers no matter what. I always tell my son and daughter to respect and love their mom no matter what happens .
With the whole you earn your pay, you helped me see what it can be like on the other end (overcompensidizers?) and I totally understand that, you reap what you sow. I just wish social rhetoric and rent would follow suit. THAT is where the true issue lies. Want equality? Respect, financially, socially, etc., should always unequivocally be expected to be earned. To do otherwise is just fleecing all that intial good intent right out of the window
And you have to admit when you have a crew of 10 guys working together there's a certain type of energy and camaraderie when you add one woman to that crew with nine men the dynamics changes entirely at least has been my experience typically. Especially if the one woman is in an intimate relationship with one of the guys and one of the other eight guys makes the woman cry watch the social dynamics implode
This is perhaps a timeless problem but I will speak on what I seen first hand. It started a hundred years ago and yes, at least from my perspective it was women at fault. Both of my grandmother's ran out on my grandfather's because they wanted the party life instead of raising their family. Much credit to both of those men for taking care of their children and foregoing their own personal life to raise their children. Unfortunately, when they both remarried what they got then wasn't catch of the day either. One sat on her butt and smoked and drank until she had a stroke, then my grandfather had to take care of her for twenty years. The other one was vial and kept my grandpa away from his children and grandchildren for thirty years. With all that said, you can guess what effects that had on my parents. It wasn't always smooth by no means but they made it work 63 years. Biggest thing I see is the entitlement mentality has to stop. Once a man and woman are together they must be selfless to one another. Society has been wrecked by design. It's not going to be an easy fix.
I'm going to let the two of you hash this out, because I think both are partly true. I think any woman has any right to go live whatever life she wants. But it is the legal system that favors the "bad" irresponsible or inept parent so that they can glean some money off the top when they force the more responsible parent to pay rent for his fatherhood. People should be free. Men should have a right to opt out of fatherhood if women don't want men to force them to carry babies to term etc.. Lots of things here. But it's not women's fault to me any more than it's the child's fault when his parents feed him free food and grow him to be obese and lazy.
So, I gotta say, man… This whole “bear or man” bullshit has gone too far. The point of the logical argument is that many “normal” women in society have shit twisted about the idea that the majority of men want to SA and murder women, but the majority don’t. You guys are used to the wilderness. It makes sense, because of your experience, bears aren’t as gnarly as most people think. I’ve chased one from rummaging through my trash without a firearm. But, this whole discussion is really an anti-feminist argument. I respect that you’re supporting your wife and are giving your perspective… But I have to ask. Are you looking at this through a feminist lens? Sorry, I didn’t listen to the whole thing, but I’d really like to engage with your perspective. Respectfully 🙏
I am a God fearing woman...And this world & the church is so fractured by the sick & physical hurting actions of men. And I worked construction, in food & beverage, office administrator, limo driver, raced motorcycles and even went to Bible School, became a minister and even was a prison chaplain. This world has changed. Both Men & Women have become more unethical & are without a sane moral compass.
@@PPMAK777 I will agree with your last sentence, 100%. In fact, I kinda wish you started your comment with that! It’s kind of my point, if I’m to offer any kind of opinion on the subject matter at hand. There is just way too much nuance and subjective outlook on how men and women interact, both with each other and separate amongst the same sex. Suffrage is universal, and anyone who claims otherwise and proclaims any type of biblical moral stance has to see eye to eye with what both sexes deal with together and amongst themselves. I totally agree, men err on the side of violence in ways women don’t. But the idea that we as men should be looked at as a constant or imminent threat seems counter intuitive to the provision and protection so may men offer to their families, let alone society. I think it is noble that the gentleman in the video (forgive me, I know not your name 🙏 if you’re reading this), but I have to play somewhat of a devil’s advocate that the right answer is that the bear in the woods is less dangerous than the man. I mean, on its face it’s an unfair metric given the stats of how many people are murdered by bears vs men in general 🤣 and by that logic we have to consider demographic, location, total population… It’s just a dumb argument in my opinion. But you are absolutely right, humanity itself has lost touch with the true moral virtue which is that that derives from the Gospel. I can appreciate your perspective 🙏
I grew up cruising and marking timber deep in the woods in southern Mississippi with my dad. We've come across a few scary dudes in the woods. I distinctly remember this one dude. My dad told him he was on private property and he needs to GTFO. He looked at us and said "As long as I have this rifle and this machete I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want". We knocked off early that day..
Why is girls night out always at the club where the men are and not in the woods with the Bears? You do make some good points in your video. Definitely enjoy watching y’all’s videos.
Most notably in the NE of WA. Grew up and have hunted there for 40yrs. Own land there. It’s changed dramatically in the last 20yrs. Convicts and transplants have taken over.
@@DUCKDONKEY: People have gotten allot dumber in the last 20 years, along with an arrogance, that's completely lacking self awareness, like they're NPC's or something. There's no convincing them that they're incorrect either, you can show them all the evidence in the world, but it's like talking to a brick wall, that's also retarded.
Dr. K on the HealthyGamerGG channel is pretty great if you wanna get into the weeds, thickets, and rabbitholes of what mental patterns go through "toxic" boys and men that have trouble loving & caring for themselves and force themselves on others. also.....SUBSCRIBED 👍
I agree with all of that. A man can very easily fit in amongst a group of women and women treat him decent and wisely use his strengths and work around his weaknesses. But a crew of men regularly does have a hard time making room for a woman. No idea why that is, but it sure is.
@@timberfallingcouple my guess it’s biology men get weird around women and women like being around strong men and they are natural instincts kick by both genders. I haven’t found a reasonable solution for this as of yet.
I like you guys, but it’s always very sad whenever I see healthy couples not having children. I apologize if she’s not able to. But if it’s by choice, I always see that as a great sadness in our society. But the again, maybe you just keep those things private.
Here in Arkansas, I stopped for some (automotive) broke down on the side of the road. After being there about 15min, one of them makes a call, and then the person on the other end of the phone adamantly tells me to leave them. It wasn’t in a good physical location at all (blind curve), but I left after my input and the person became irate because I tried to help. I thought that he was a…I’m not going to say it, because I can’t say it “nicely”. BUT, I left nonetheless. So uncle Phil (I’m 52BTW), I understand YOU!
I got one for you. In eastern Washington, my friend Joe stopped late at night on his way home for a stopped car on the roadside. Which if you knew Joe he's like Little John from Robin Hood. He gets up to the window to ask if they need pulled out of the ditch and the dude opens fire on Joe. Joe pulls iron and returns fire. The dude speeds away, Joe goes to the hospital with a few bullet holes, and the Sheriff says, "yeah this has been happening a lot. We think they're car thieves and we're trying to get your pickup to head back into Canada," or whatever their deal was Once again, two men.
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I’ve met a lot of scary people! Most of them outta the woods! The scariest person I’ve ever met was myself back in the day! Drugs , bad decisions, and terrible relationships made me a scared unhinged a hole ! I look back now and what a waste of time and energy! My advice, find a good woman or friends you can trust and look at life as riding a bike , look forward and move ahead ! Aim for the sky don’t ever give up!
Life is lessons know doubt..And without those life lessons you do not know how to stop the self sabotage and the bad lifestyle choices..Strife brings Life for some.. The special kinda folks make it thru..
Sounds like a path to an enlightened life!
Really enjoyed this. I agree with you pretty much 100 percent. I trust no one off the bat. Men are very unpredictable and I believe most people have ulterior motives. If you are afraid of a strong competent woman you’re not a man. Treat people as you want to be treated is the moral of the story. Trust is earned not given.
That's a really nice way to articulate some thoughts I've been trying to build into sentences. Thank you for speaking up
Good talk..thanks so much..agreed Phill
I generally don't trust women, I personally know many good men who have had their lives ruined through divorce, however that hasn't stopped me from finding a good woman. Just like this bear vs. man thing shows women don't generally trust men, but it doesn't stop them from putting themselves in a vulnerable position with strange men, places like bars/nightclubs. Life is full of risk and learning risk assessment is an important skill. Finally, anyone who is offended by the answer to bear vs. man question is probably a city slicker. I live in the woods and spend most of my time in the woods outside of my private property. Whenever I come across another man in the woods my first thought is, "What are you doing out here?", and they likely think the same about me.
Logger PHILosophy!! Working man wisdom..
You need a whole talk show! In the truck on the way to work!
I particularly enjoyed the passion with which you use the word "cull".
Enjoyed this very much, thanks.
Good listen. If either of you are readers, I suggest the book called “The Gift of Fear”. It talks a lot about human behavior and to trust your intuition. Go with your first instinct and don’t let someone talk you out of it because as soon as you let your guard down, that’s when bad happens. As far as the original topic, I’ve never been in a situation where I’ve said “if that animal does this or that I’m pulling the trigger. But I have with a man. Luckily he went straight instead of turning toward me or the outcome would not have been good.
When the going gets tough the tough turn Pro..Had run ins with Many mountain lions..Grizzlies. Brown and black bears while doing my thing but when i gotta go 2 town to grab provisions my head is Always on a swivel..People have changed.I am still the same and will Never be a Victim..
The best part about your conversation is the ones that get offended are the ones that should be true stuff bro
Agree, it's sad to hear but true.
That whole creepy stalker thing, must be generational thing. As gen x, we just didn't see that, or maybe they were to scared to get the shit kicked out of them. Too many creepers I think just haven't been punched in the face, and have false sense of security maybe?
Those that should hear this don't listen anyway.
It's sad that you have to defend your actions and beliefs, obviously your detractors have never been a victim of violence or robbery. If they want to be helpless, more power to them.
Keep your head on a swivel, it’s an evil world out there!
Spot on Phil
I think you are articulated quite well and I appreciate this I wish I had your insight when I was your age truly I say God bless you my best to you and yours God bless
As someone who watches lots of YT: Creators must ignore negative comments. It's healthy to stand by your creed. That's who you are.
Oh I definitely stand by my creed, and also address the deep cracks in society that I think are a problem. Maybe someone will listen in the right frame of mind and get to thinking about life in a different way
Everyone should be armed and ready 24/7 everyone should have minimal training. Mindset is everything when combined with your most basic level of training. I'll finish with "an armed society is a polite society" don't recall we who said that originally at the moment but it's 💯 true.
If you're scared of a woman, then you're not a man , if a woman or man can do the job then. You shouldn't look at that person any less . This is what is wrong with the world today .Other Pople allway what to control other people and will not listen or respect pople boundaries in the way they live there life.😊.worry about yourself unless you're are asked. It great to hear what you has to say .
Podcast could be cool. Maybe a call in for the audience once in awhile to expand the dialogue.
Sidenote....that drive into town from the woods.....yeesh 😒
"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the expanding needs of the bureaucracy."
Society pfft. This is a topic for call in. I don't like to give concessions anymore but, I will this time; there are a lot of really good people still in this world.
With that being said, this society has been sick for awhile and is becoming more sick. We are seeing the fruits each generation more than the last. What were the milestones? We have yet to see what (though we see glimpses) the full ramifications of a generation raised on technology is....we have allowed ourselves to become lab rats. And worse, we consume our demise like junkies. Meanwhile behind the curtain........huge topic.
As far as the wife goes...I don't have an opinion beyond 1) love that you both work together and 2) the women in my family are also armed soooo...pretty standard because, society pfft.
Sorry, I'm a blabber mouth.
You speak the Truth..Rare in these times we are in..Time to seek our tribe and let the rest keep playing the Game..
Man is the most dangerous animal of all.
Bears don't shoot back.
The part that struck me the most out of all of this conversation was the fact that you don't talk to your mom. Out of the 4 of us, my mom liked me the least, but I was the one who looked after her till she passed away . Good men love their mothers no matter what. I always tell my son and daughter to respect and love their mom no matter what happens .
Well put. Pretty balanced fellow.
I wish I could learn what you do, and work along side you.. ive never had a coworker with your mindset.
With the whole you earn your pay, you helped me see what it can be like on the other end (overcompensidizers?) and I totally understand that, you reap what you sow. I just wish social rhetoric and rent would follow suit. THAT is where the true issue lies. Want equality? Respect, financially, socially, etc., should always unequivocally be expected to be earned. To do otherwise is just fleecing all that intial good intent right out of the window
This is a really thoughtful statement. I really appreciate what you believe in. One person at a time we can make the world a better place.
I chase after bears
Life is simple... Trump or reality.
Pick 1
Backround check for 2nd amend = Shall Be Infringed.
And you have to admit when you have a crew of 10 guys working together there's a certain type of energy and camaraderie when you add one woman to that crew with nine men the dynamics changes entirely at least has been my experience typically. Especially if the one woman is in an intimate relationship with one of the guys and one of the other eight guys makes the woman cry watch the social dynamics implode
This is perhaps a timeless problem but I will speak on what I seen first hand. It started a hundred years ago and yes, at least from my perspective it was women at fault. Both of my grandmother's ran out on my grandfather's because they wanted the party life instead of raising their family. Much credit to both of those men for taking care of their children and foregoing their own personal life to raise their children. Unfortunately, when they both remarried what they got then wasn't catch of the day either. One sat on her butt and smoked and drank until she had a stroke, then my grandfather had to take care of her for twenty years. The other one was vial and kept my grandpa away from his children and grandchildren for thirty years. With all that said, you can guess what effects that had on my parents. It wasn't always smooth by no means but they made it work 63 years.
Biggest thing I see is the entitlement mentality has to stop. Once a man and woman are together they must be selfless to one another.
Society has been wrecked by design. It's not going to be an easy fix.
😅Women are not the reason for the falts of this world.
Last I checked, it was men that made every war imaginable on this earth.
I'm going to let the two of you hash this out, because I think both are partly true.
I think any woman has any right to go live whatever life she wants. But it is the legal system that favors the "bad" irresponsible or inept parent so that they can glean some money off the top when they force the more responsible parent to pay rent for his fatherhood.
People should be free. Men should have a right to opt out of fatherhood if women don't want men to force them to carry babies to term etc..
Lots of things here. But it's not women's fault to me any more than it's the child's fault when his parents feed him free food and grow him to be obese and lazy.
So, I gotta say, man… This whole “bear or man” bullshit has gone too far. The point of the logical argument is that many “normal” women in society have shit twisted about the idea that the majority of men want to SA and murder women, but the majority don’t. You guys are used to the wilderness. It makes sense, because of your experience, bears aren’t as gnarly as most people think. I’ve chased one from rummaging through my trash without a firearm. But, this whole discussion is really an anti-feminist argument. I respect that you’re supporting your wife and are giving your perspective… But I have to ask. Are you looking at this through a feminist lens? Sorry, I didn’t listen to the whole thing, but I’d really like to engage with your perspective. Respectfully 🙏
I am a God fearing woman...And this world & the church is so fractured by the sick & physical hurting actions of men. And I worked construction, in food & beverage, office administrator, limo driver, raced motorcycles and even went to Bible School, became a minister and even was a prison chaplain. This world has changed.
Both Men & Women have become more unethical & are without a sane moral compass.
@@PPMAK777 I will agree with your last sentence, 100%. In fact, I kinda wish you started your comment with that! It’s kind of my point, if I’m to offer any kind of opinion on the subject matter at hand. There is just way too much nuance and subjective outlook on how men and women interact, both with each other and separate amongst the same sex. Suffrage is universal, and anyone who claims otherwise and proclaims any type of biblical moral stance has to see eye to eye with what both sexes deal with together and amongst themselves. I totally agree, men err on the side of violence in ways women don’t. But the idea that we as men should be looked at as a constant or imminent threat seems counter intuitive to the provision and protection so may men offer to their families, let alone society. I think it is noble that the gentleman in the video (forgive me, I know not your name 🙏 if you’re reading this), but I have to play somewhat of a devil’s advocate that the right answer is that the bear in the woods is less dangerous than the man. I mean, on its face it’s an unfair metric given the stats of how many people are murdered by bears vs men in general 🤣 and by that logic we have to consider demographic, location, total population… It’s just a dumb argument in my opinion. But you are absolutely right, humanity itself has lost touch with the true moral virtue which is that that derives from the Gospel. I can appreciate your perspective 🙏
U guys in the PNW? Forrest’s look a bit like Forks area to me…
I grew up cruising and marking timber deep in the woods in southern Mississippi with my dad. We've come across a few scary dudes in the woods. I distinctly remember this one dude. My dad told him he was on private property and he needs to GTFO. He looked at us and said "As long as I have this rifle and this machete I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want". We knocked off early that day..
Why is girls night out always at the club where the men are and not in the woods with the Bears?
You do make some good points in your video. Definitely enjoy watching y’all’s videos.
Some women that are stay at home moms and wives are afraid of the woman in the field at the job taking their husband
I live in the PNW. Humans in the woods are the most uncomfortable situations I’ve ever had. That includes years of living in SoCal. Humans are sketchy
Most notably in the NE of WA. Grew up and have hunted there for 40yrs. Own land there. It’s changed dramatically in the last 20yrs. Convicts and transplants have taken over.
@@DUCKDONKEY: People have gotten allot dumber in the last 20 years, along with an arrogance, that's completely lacking self awareness, like they're NPC's or something. There's no convincing them that they're incorrect either, you can show them all the evidence in the world, but it's like talking to a brick wall, that's also retarded.
Dr. K on the HealthyGamerGG channel is pretty great if you wanna get into the weeds, thickets, and rabbitholes of what mental patterns go through "toxic" boys and men that have trouble loving & caring for themselves and force themselves on others.
also.....SUBSCRIBED 👍
Meritocracy the merocratic system is you get paid for what you do. I subscribe to that system
Similarly if you have 10 women working on a crew and you replace one woman with one guy a straight guy the dynamics can get interesting
I agree with all of that. A man can very easily fit in amongst a group of women and women treat him decent and wisely use his strengths and work around his weaknesses.
But a crew of men regularly does have a hard time making room for a woman. No idea why that is, but it sure is.
@@timberfallingcouple my guess it’s biology men get weird around women and women like being around strong men and they are natural instincts kick by both genders. I haven’t found a reasonable solution for this as of yet.
YOU CAN HAVE A GUN IN CANADIA?!?!
Okay, where is the talking about womanhood episode now
Hey good idea, I'll see what I can conjure up 👍🏼 -Sadie
I like you guys, but it’s always very sad whenever I see healthy couples not having children. I apologize if she’s not able to. But if it’s by choice, I always see that as a great sadness in our society. But the again, maybe you just keep those things private.
I'd rather have money to do what I want.
Here in Arkansas, I stopped for some (automotive) broke down on the side of the road. After being there about 15min, one of them makes a call, and then the person on the other end of the phone adamantly tells me to leave them. It wasn’t in a good physical location at all (blind curve), but I left after my input and the person became irate because I tried to help. I thought that he was a…I’m not going to say it, because I can’t say it “nicely”. BUT, I left nonetheless. So uncle Phil (I’m 52BTW), I understand YOU!
I got one for you.
In eastern Washington, my friend Joe stopped late at night on his way home for a stopped car on the roadside. Which if you knew Joe he's like Little John from Robin Hood.
He gets up to the window to ask if they need pulled out of the ditch and the dude opens fire on Joe. Joe pulls iron and returns fire. The dude speeds away, Joe goes to the hospital with a few bullet holes, and the Sheriff says, "yeah this has been happening a lot. We think they're car thieves and we're trying to get your pickup to head back into Canada,"
or whatever their deal was
Once again, two men.
@@timberfallingcouple Joe IS my kind of person! 😃