Heroes 3 Tutorial 1: Hero Chaining
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2018
- A fairly detailed explanation of hero chaining in Heroes of Might and Magic 3 ( also applies to 1, 2 and 5 ).
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I've played Heroes 3 since it came out in 1999. Here Iam 20 years later, learning new ways to play the game. Awesome.
you got me beat by a couple years do you know what settings he is using cause it looks so fast when he trades troops and everything
@@benhambley7820 he is using a mod that's how he does it. Try searching Heroes III HD mod and you might get what you want they added cool shortcuts in there
Okay, This clip told me that this old game are so much deeper and sophisticated than I could ever imagen!
Repaterion most games are like that.
So THAT is why peoples turns in multiplayer take ages.
Please do more. I love advanced knowledge like this
This game just never gets old... I started to play this game when I was 9 and still pretty interested to play it over and over again. Thanks for your video!
6 heroes can Explorer 3 times as fast as 2... Who would have thought.
Great video :)
hey chris i think this tutorial thing is awesome since most of this games difficulty for me comes from knowing where to send my heroes and how to distribute my troops in between my heroes
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Man, thanks!
I've played heroes many times before, but never can understood how to play nice. Your videos helped me understand that simple things i never can see. Thanks
I remember when I first started playing when I was about 9 or 10. I would always just have one guy because I thought "why would I want to split my troops up? If I get attacked I'll lose". It never occurred to me that I could get resources faster, probably win with half my troops, scout the map etc.
The idea with hero chaining is that you don't split your troops. You move the same army around and have multiple heroes win battles with it on the same turn.
Hello there handsome.
@@TheCrimsonAtom Is this "The Rise of Necromancer" over the TH-cam? I must call Crag Hack to prepare for the skeleton evasion!!!!
But on larger maps as you go deeper into other territory and your troops start to dwindle you either need to learn town portal to replenish your army or you need to have a hero chain to continue to supply your hero with fresh troops
This game is legend. Even though not a lot of people know this game, what you are showing is very helpful to make my childhood more excited. Not sure if you make this into series or anything but would love to follow up.
Hero chaining is useful beyond even transporting troops. If you constantly have heroes at the ready, in positions on a map that are all within reach of each other, that gives you the ability to essentially do anything with your main without fear of losing tempo. This is because since you know that if ur main starts to dwindle on troops from casualties, you will always have heroes at the ready to feed ur hero whatever they need.
The chain becomes even more powerful if the chaining heroes have estates, +350 gold, +1 resource/day, scouting, scholar, or resource generating artifacts. At that point you really get to dominate the map.
I usually try to level all my side heroes with learning stones or mercenary camps, if available. So in case I need to defend they are at the ready. Having a strong hero presence also deters opponents from easily coming into ur territory.
A guy that goes by the name... Frank..🤣
i was also expecting something else
Really enjoy watching your videos. I've started playing this game again and don't know how I was so good when I was a kid : p
YES ! Finally i'll be able to play this game properly xD
Thank you very very very much chris
I think it's all depends on the map.. if you start from town that is in the middle of big area and alot of resources to take in immediate area, than hero chaining is almost a must, you can hire 8 heroes in day 1 if possible. But if there's not alot of resources in immediate area or the road is one directional, than hero chaining is pointless.
It's nice to have a demonstration. The word "chaining" to me seemed more linear. As in having a hero that's 1 day out, another that is 2, etc. Having a demonstration helped to correct that misgiving in my head. Getting back into the game after many years away.
I see you also play Civ 5 and lift weights. I think we'd get along splendidly in real life!
Here's a hint - leave your dwarfs, since the speed of your slowest unit affects the total movement of your hero per day.
This is a video on hero chaining. Not on hero movement. For the sake of the leason he`s playing on noob difficulty.
And you don`t leave anything behind. You leave them on the mules so that other heroes have maximum movement range.
Wonderful advice thank you!
Thank you for making videos like this, i've recently been getting back into homm and i've actually been struggling real hard. i was good as a kid but i guess i've lost all my knowledge and tactics along the way :D
Plz do more I always lose from a a friend of mine who is more experienced in this game. I hope I have more chances now :D keep up the good work
What difficulty settings you played?
In HD mod, you can enable a grid for the adventure map. This is helpful in planning moves when enemies are in the way.
Just learnt about heroes. I've put in 10 hours already. Great game!
Great video. One problem I have is accurately determining monster stack strengths on the map, compared to my Hero army stacks. I tend to have way too much army power when I decide to clear a monster stack (which takes more time to build up than something more reasonable).
Just takes experience, you'll get better at it.
As you get better with the game you will be able to spot easy targets and also enemies that can significantly impact you and take half your army, as a beginner you should know which tier each creature is on, giving you an idea of their strength, as you get better knowing their speed is also a really big factor as it determines how far they move and where their turn is in comparison to your troops during battle
Few 1-4
Several 5-9
Pack 10-19
Lots 20-49
Horde 50-99
Throng 100-249
Swarm 250-499
Zounds 500-999
Legion 1000+
The more you play, the better you`ll estimate the stack strength compared to what you have, and to what you`ll have if you wait one more turn.
I do agree with Op, experience teaches us well. For beginners, pls refer to SUN tzu arts of war - "know yourself and your enemy, in a hundred battles youll never be defeated". Often times, in 1st week. Your initial hero and race determines factor how u progress in the game
Of course the creator of The Cones of Dunshire plays Heroes III, great video Ben!
and the good efficient 1 stacks to block paths retaliation and use speed 1 stascks on a scout hero to get max movement speed
Nice video btw ^^
Awesome video, just curious with all your talk about multiplayer, have you considered playing online again at some point? (and show on youtube) or is that not feasible?
It's feasible yes. Not sure when.
This is basic. How is this special? In impossible and hard creature difficulty when against AI, 1st step is scout. If area has a lot of gold for pickup, always hire early new heroes which has army. If bad scout and no resource, upgrade town hall. It is situational guys, the most effecient is always scouting. If you got gold, hire 1 Hero for primary/main, 1 for scouting, 1 for resource gathering. +350 gold heroes should be hire early if unavailable hire +1 resource hero like Sepiroth. Best early heroes is either +350 gold OR spell caster like solmyr (tower) or ciele (conflux) or firewall hero conflux.
I like your channel!🔥
Thanks 🔥
Why doesn’t my new version of homm3 have that area that auto transfers troops from hero to hero?
Although I can acknowledge that this is the most effective way to play, I have to say it seems like a much more stressful and un-fun way to do it...
I'd say it's more boring than stressful. Yeah, it's just not fun at all (not to mention extremely time consuming)
Oh hey, makes me feel good that, as a complete noob at this game, I still had the intuition to do a sort of beta version of hero chaining. Never understood why buying a hero wouldn't be worth it given that they only need to grab a couple chests to completely pay themselves off. Not to mention the extra scouting, troop transport, and resource collection they can do.
I actually learned to hero chain by playing through the campaigns on impossible. Cause it`s just too frustrating to have one hero go back and forth between two-three poorly defended castles. :) At first I tried it mid campaigns but I slowly started to incorporate the tactic at the start of a map. It makes all the difference.
Try impossible and hard creature difficulty and youll be surprised for yourself
lol.. well hero chaning is pretty common i'd say the more you play the mmore oyu realise how important this is nice explanation ^^
Unlikely, i dont recommend this tactic nor for effeciency. This is for Queen and below difficulty. Try 200% or impossible and hard creature settings. Youll be surprise can learn a lot from yourself discovering
This is usually good in mps and in short term games, otherwise idk what to say
I'm watching this before our next revenge game, I actually want to try a better tactic than the one I usually employ (since I usually go for the first one you mentioned :) )
Oleg Lunin what’s the tactic you usually employ?? Cheating by stream watching? Fucking cheater.
@Dragon Doppler I dont take it easy on cheaters.
Which version are you using? because I just bought the HD version and I don't have that "all army switch heroes" option
Ah, I am using the HD mod that you can download, it's not the HD version. The HD mod is installed over the original game.
Hi there, I've seen multiple video's where people are able to reject quick combat results and fight the battle anyway. When I turn on quick combat I don't have that option and I can't figure out why. Does it have to do withme playing the HD edition instead of the original game with HD mod? It would really speed up my games allowing me to get more practice in :)
Yes that is an HD mod feature.
Wasnt this option appear when u have overwhelming forces against creature? Most creature who defend artifacts often comes out a battle.
what mod is that? saves up a lot of time by pressing a button to transfer troops rather than moving the cursor over and choosing which slot to add it to on the other hero!
HOTA mod.
Hey Guys, where can i find a fairly modded couple of new stuff heroes 3, to play with my friends?
I can respect the fact you uncovered more but you just spent 16k on heroes so now you won't be able to get your unicorn glade on week 1 without completely destroying the rest of your cash, making it so you wouldn't be able to afford capital for a long time (unless you get lots of chests). You're essentially slowing down your progress on weeks 2 and 3, especially if the map has harder units. Hero chain but do it sensibly. I crush people who hero chain like this on a small map. Follow the advice but make sure you do it efficiently too. Knowledge is power but so is gold early on
I agree with you mate. Maybe he just want to show what hero chaining is. I for one dont recommend this. Depending on difficulty, it is either dwelling or town hall upgrade and my surrounding area. Rush town or creature building. Depends on race though
24 years later I finally learn some tactics. Thanks man!
nice!
I'm here because I like this game and it's been referenced by Helltaker
is the "transfer army" thing a mod? where did you get it? i neeeeeed ittt
HD mod
@@Chris67132 okay tnx
What setting do you have on to skip all the "you got 3 mercury or a new spell"
Oh it's just the HD mod, thats all.
Or maybe it's the HOTA mod, one of those.
Lol! You has Tazar in the tavern. He is the strongest might specialization hero (armourer is a solid might specialisation).
I played since 2000 and the best strategy is start with 2 heroes and strengthened them almost equally then enlist a third hero and fourth and use them as replenishing
22 years exp and still play wrong strategy:D
You should do a video where you play on very high difficulty. It's easy to hire that many heroes when you start with a truck load full of gold. Good video though!
I do that in all my regular videos, either pvp or single player.
Nice, but what about money... Show us hero chaining on impossible level...
I think it would have taken considerably longer. And as in any leason, you want to educate the trainee as fast as possible. Of course....kind of side tracked there a little. :)
2min in and after seeing him turn down diplomacy I already and questioning the whole video haha
You should see him play
Zero i will give you a tip as a viewer its going to be repetive, but every video you should tell us what mod and extras you use in the beginning it would be so informative. Sure i know but others dont, and give a link in discription how to get it or atleast were ;D
Is this some kind of a modded version? There's so many buttons in hero exchange screen.
Yes, HD Mod.
How do you get such good graphics?
I've got the HOTA mod installed.
Please make the same chaining tutorial at 200%
explore faster but have no money for troops when opponent comes with his fupp capitol build and black dragons ? while u got gnolls, centaurs and 3 archers
Omg I was watching thing video last night and had a dream about it that this “frank”-guy was Pewdiepie in disguise 😂😭😂
How do you skip the battles!!! I know the ones that flee skip, but you’ve got some victories without going into battle.
Probably auto battle.
Quick combat at settings. The computer icon in gameplay settings
So that's why in Heroes 4, every separate unit has a limited number of movement points. I always found that annoying, because when one hero gave his troops to another hero, this another hero couldn't go go very far this turn. Looks like without this limit, it can be abused in such a way that a single army travels every turn so many movement points you would normally cross in a week. It's like using a cheat.
Well, in heroes 4 you can do it the other way around: it's usually your heroes that matter in the big fights. So you can chain small stacks of quick units (such as sprite) to speed them up, or to transport them (you suicide your hero and carry his tombstone).
i feel that you got sidetracked several times and the information could have been more condensed
Sekiro in Strategy game :P
Hey! Got 30 days for a hotseat game?
No, you want to play multiplayer show up on a sunday, that's when I have time.
Idk why i am even here i know a lot about the game
Great tutorial but why do you sound just like ben wyatt from parks and rec?
Dunno, ask him why he sounds like me.
Has tazard... "Ivor, he's my main hero" (facepalm moment for anyone who understands)
heroes 3 tutorial 1, heroes 3 tutorial 2....
ah.
Drinking game, every time he says probably xD
Why doesn’t this apply to HOMM 4 and 6 onward?
In HOMM 4 each troop also has a movement value which is depleted, so giving them to another hero does not let them move any more per turn. In 6 onward I don't know since I never played past 5 ( it probably does apply though ).
@@Chris67132 Heroes 6 you can have heroes without units. Heroes 7 i think have same rules as H1-H3 and H5.
Lol is this even a thing? I thought most people would hire few more heroes cos obviously you can cover more ground quicker.
Yes what I'm showing here is pretty standard.
@@Chris67132 Well im playing on Exper / Impossible and barely ever use more than 3... most of the time 2 ;DD no diplom nor Dimentiondoors so this would increase my army faster = i learned to fight with small army and manipulate AI on the battlefield ;D
@@MikeAndersson You mean save-load a heck-lot of times?
@@mihaimeluca3 nope doing it live
Takes all of the fun out of the game
Trying to find a free download but it seems everywhere on the net is full of fake shit.
Too verbose. Wth is chaining??
So many noob players in the comment section.
Lets face it
You come here because of helltaker
Him: Didnt pick diplomacy
Me: instantly stops watching the tutorial.
they nerfed diplo in hota, now its the worst skill
Nice tutorial but that's long, I stopped at 10:00.
you'll need more patience if you want to play this game tho
2min in and after seeing him turn down diplomacy I already and questioning the whole video haha
diplomacy with HotA is not useful