OU is getting caught up in their own hype. Reality is coming for them when they realize you have to have a strong in state recruiting base to win in the SEC.
@Chandler Russell meanwhile in reality, Oklahoma is Texas North nothing more than another D1 Texas college based upon their roster composition. So no kid, Texas owns Texas. Tulsa is thr true University of Oklahoma.
@@lukespringer4135 LMAO You make no since or are loving outside of reality. Dallas is in the state of Texas. I get it that PU delusional arrogance has a tough time accepting that PU's entire identity is tied to the state of Texas.
@@cameronmiller1153 He clearly has a Texas shirt in his profile pic, dummy. Seemingly that was the last time Texas was relevant. Zero draft picks this past draft. Didn't Texas hire USC's leftovers though? I'm right too aren't I?
Let’s do recent history since 2010 y’all went 5-7 4X and 1 ten win seasons since 2010 usc won the pac 12 title have 4X ten win season won the rose bowl and that’s with sanctions what y’all excuse NONE y’all just garbage have fun with 7win sark
USC is way better than recruiting than OU? Didn’t Oklahoma just win multiple commits over USC in July? And don’t know what Oklahoma is without Lincoln Riley is hilarious 🤣
i know, lincoln has only got like 5 commits since he left oklahoma and 3 of them are 3 stars. USC is not in the running for a top 50 offensive tackle right now, thats a huge problem. if lincoln doesnt start recruiting more then just QBs and WRs then they arent gonna win a pac 12 title
@@Rob_uno Jaquaize Pettaway, Cayden Green, Adepoju Adebawore, Lewis Carter, USC didn’t even make it in any of their top 5 but every single one had an offer
Texas And Oklahoma shared conferences and geography with several SEC schools. The Big12 itself isn't very old. The SEC footprint is a huge part of their recruiting territory. So them moving to the SEC, while big, wasn't unexpected. But USC and UCLA bailing on a conference they've been members of for almost a century, for a conference where, as of now, the closest school is Nebraska, was stunning. That was a truly left-field move, and will have more collateral damage by far.
@@tracejones5952 Not saying one couldn't have happened without the other. Just saying the second move was more shocking and will trigger more collateral damage than the other. Pretty sure a lot of people saw the Texas/Oklahoma move coming, and were prepping for it. But I don't think anybody saw the LA/Big10 power move coming. I would've placed money on the ACC being picked apart before the Pac12 getting poached. And now that both the Pac10 and Big12 are without there most powerful members, it's only a question of time before they fold/meld/whatever..
The real winners are Miss St, Missouri, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, and Iowa. Schools with either small markets or zero fan base bringing in tens of millions each year just from their conference affiliation alone. I dont see these conferences expanding much more because the existing members don't want to split the revenue with more teams.
Yeah, I caught that too, like Oklahoma has never been any good until Riley got there.. Even though I’m an Alabama fan sometimes I feel the same way with Nick Saban. Yes Bama was in a down cycle when he got there but people sometimes act like they had never won 7 national titles before Saban ever got there. Heck they went 10-2 and finished No.8 in 2005 under Mike Shula even though the stupid NCAA made them vacate all of the victories
@@youngmurk100 that doesn’t fix it. Oklahoma was setting records on offense long before Riley. Keep in mind Oklahoma was the first team in history to score 60 or more points in 5 consecutive games. Plus under Stoops our first OC was Mike Leach.
I'm not a Texas fan, but what is Finebaum saying "Texas hasn't had anything since Vince Young"? Has he forgotten about the years with Colt McCoy when they were in the BCS championship game conversation? If he said since Colt McCoy, I'd wholeheartedly agree, but let's at least be factual in our assessments.
@@Jon.A.Scholt My mistake. Hearing a broken record enough times makes all the scratched songs sound alike. I didn't mean to insult you by lumping you in with Longwhorns.
I like Orshloskavinski, but UCLA and USC to B10 doesn’t happen without OU and that other school moving. Also what is OU without Lincoln Riley? Idk, just one of the top 3 most successful and consistent programs ever. And good luck with that “fertile ground”. The top interior Dlineman recruit in California right now is in the 400s ranking wise. Recruiting is fully National now, heck even defending champs, Georgia, can’t hardly get top Georgia guys to stay in-state and source top talent from elsewhere.
USC and UCLA move was happening even without OU moving. The move was only ever about money, not what some other unrelated team did. The pac12 never could have generated enough and was offering a fraction of what B1G and SEC teams make. USC was by far the biggest commercial brand in the conference and the tv contact was up so they moved to triple their money in a conference with equal and bigger commercial draws than them. They were moving regardless of whether OU and Texas stayed.
Look, I know ESPN personalities base their opinions on what will stir up the most controversy and in some cases are just told what "their" opinion will be, but c'mon. This is just pathetic. They act like if you don't live in California, Florida, or Texas you'll never be able to get another recruit again. They also have a incredibly short outlook on how all this plays out. OU and Texas are bigger brands than UCLA and USC. There's no arguing that. Also, we don't know what LR is going to do at USC. How can you even say that? Plus, if we do assume that, then that means USC will put up about a 100 points a game, be the lesser physical team, and not be able to stop anybody on defense. This is all just so stupid and childish
@@jtyea705 Just not true, especially with USC fading into obscurity ever since the NFL came back to LA. It has really hurt USC and UCLA and I don't think people have been factoring that in yet.
@@Mcyoloswaggy69 plus have you forgotten there were more fans from the opposite fan base at the rams stadium during the playoffs than rams fans? USC is LA and some say they are Hollywood aswell
The SEC got the biggest brands in OU and Texas but the BIG10 expanded their footprint to LA and Southern California. So it’s basically which one do you see as more valuable brands or footprint.
@@dontehouston33 well just ask any analysts or in fact anyone that’s just not a fan and they will tell you USC is the most valuable…Finebaum is literally telling you USC is the best brand and you sitting here tryna argue lol
This is a complete cluster of a conversation. From the start when Paul demonstrates his inability to listen and doesn't know it's not his turn, up until the very end. 🙄
USC will continue to get humiliated and I can’t wait to see it. Lincoln Riley taking Alex Grinch with him was the best thing that could’ve happened to program at OU. If Ohio State didn’t want Alex Grinch that should tell you something
In Football, brand rankings would be USC, Oklahoma, Texas and UCLA. College sports overall, UCLA, USC, Oklahoma, Texas. When you talk brands, you talk legacy, known through out the CFB and sports world.
Seriously? Texas and OU to the Sec is wayyyyyyyyyyy bigger. People hate Texas so much that they stop thinking logically. Texas will be back sooner rather then later with this move to the SEC. Oklahoma has always been relevant in college football.
Hilarious that Dan thinks we just have no idea how OU will be under Venables. He hasn't been a head coach before, that's true. But, he's experienced, coached with 3 legend HCs, won championships, beat Saban and Bama, and developed incredible talent. OU is a step up for him....but let's not make it sounds like this is something he might fail at. Venny's got this.
SEC is a brand that get kids to the NFL so the move will benefit OU and Texas. Those large markets don’t matter. NFL run those markets in those big cities. I think what makes the SEC successful is they go to markets that does not have NFL teams dominating them and rich historic fan bases. USC have been good but in a lot of those kids that they want to recruit they haven’t been relevant. So it’s more of an unknown with the move to the Big 10. And UCLA is irrelevant.
@@bharp375 - It does matter in terms of $$$. Now big ten games will be on in LA. The new Fox deals the Big Ten will get coming up here will be massive. They also have the DC market as well. USC was the biggest brand available and Big Ten landed them. Notre Dame is the next big one that will eventually fall.
@@leakedclipsdaily I'm able to watch almost any college football game I want down here in the south no matter what conference it is so I'm not sure if it's the same up north or out west but if it is then I don't understand how it makes much of a difference if Big 10 games were already playing in LA to begin with. Plus people up north and out west tend to care about the NFL more than College football anyways so idk why they'd all of a sudden start watching college football more just because USC is in the big 10. College Football is just bigger in the south and will still have the bigger draw towards viewership.
@@AK-sq1jl because of the B1G network. The conference receives a payout from cable companies for every household that their network is on in. Now because the LA schools are B1G, the B1G network will be available in the regional cable package.
@@LuckyLefty92 I get the Big10 network here in the south too so I'm betting they already get it out there in LA too. USC and UCLA fans will probably be more interested in watching the network now though. Still I think those 3 major markets combined will probably at best only equal the amount of interest there is in college football in the south as a whole.
I don't think it's a fair comparison, the NIL decision was made in 2021. Nobody understood the impact NIL would have on revenue sports. That drove USC and UCLA away from the PAC-12.
Riley was handed a team that was stacked... muuuuch easier to get good fast at Ou than USC based off how Stoops left the program vs previous coaches at USC lmao thats the big difference!
Wrong Dan! Oklahoma made Lincoln Riley. uSC beast? They have been irrelevant for years. Your talking California, not Florida or Louisiana or Georgia recruiting.
Do you know why ALABAMA and OKLAHOMA are the greatest teams year in and year out cause the eat sleep learn football they are not going to the most pampered state in our beautiful country witch is California here in Oklahoma we wake up at 4am and start working out same as Alabama and when we have free time we are not going and getting pedicures we are studying the playbook or working out so I don't know how you all think coach Riley is going to make USC that much better in his first season give him a few seasons but every USC fan is going to want him fired if he don't win the big one in his first 2 seasons and he is a soft coach he is a great offensive mind but the defensive strategy he runs gets exposed and burnt his defense is his offense and you all just say what you think people want to hear grow a pair and tell it like it is talk about all the players who thought he was some one else and found out he has no loyalty that is the hard truth and I guarantee CW throws the most ints in the pac12 he is a great player and a hard worker but now he is being pampered is he still going to give it his all only time will tell
Oklahoma would go 7-5 or 8-4 in the SEC almost every year. They have benefited from playing all 3-star teams in the Big12. Texas will go 5-7 again in the SEC.
People seem to forgot UCLA was at one point ranked in the top 10 in the nation last year, beat USC by 30 on the road and was a few plays away from beating Oregon after having College Gameday at UCLA. Obviously USC is the bigger program historically but let's not act like UCLA is irrelevant. They've been better than USC recently.
All four of these teams won. Huge. The SEC media market is incredibly powerful with ESPN powering them. Big Ten is right there as well but they have the wider reach from coast to coast. UCLA and USC made the biggest jump in improvement because the Pac 12 network is absolutely garbage and their social media team is led by a blind person. I'm just excited for the changes. I love it when tables are flipped.
ESPN better worry about the financial health of their parent company - Disney - which isn't doing so well these days. If ESPN is the shiny skyscraper, Disney is the infrastructure. If the infrastructure goes, it takes the shiny new skyscraper down along with it.
It's gotta be USC/UCLA. You have to take this from a NIL standpoint. To have the LA market is huge, not to mention all the talent that is in California. The reason why USC in particular hasn't been as good is because they aren't able to recruit their in town athletes. They have been going to the SEC/BIG 10. With NIL now, the opportunity to make millions as a student athlete and what LA has to offer, they should be able to attract talent from other states + plus keep more of their in state recruits. LA is great once you have money and the NIL provides that.
@Robert Acosta NIL is definitely game changing or else you wouldn't have a player like Travis Hunter going to Jackson St. The option to make money early and not having to worry about what gives me the greatest shot at the NFL and clearly "money". Alabama recruiting is definitely down and Texas A&M with all that oil money is up heavily. In the case of USC, the pac-12 in general has gone downhill. California talent were choosing the Big 10/SEC because that would give them the greatest shot at the NFL and ultimately "money". With USC now joining the BIG 10 and with NIL available, they are now in a top 2 conference for competitive play and also NIL will entice players to stay or come to California. California is a great place if you have the money and NIL provides that.
@Robert Acosta USC is down because of incompetent hires at the AD and HC level. First Lane Kiffin, then Sarkisian, and most recently Clay Helton. I'm not sure how Lincoln Riley will fare, but he's already generated enough buzz to get more talent into the program, that's already a good sign. Chip Kelley on the other hand, has his days numbered at UCLA.
Hysterical Oklahoma is completely out recruiting USC so your hypothesis is wrong... Riley went to USC because it would have been an easy conference for him to dominate he is not happy about having to play Ohio Wisconsin Penn state Michigan state Michigan....
Crazy Texas is less than UCLA because they were 5-7 last year, but USC suddenly world beaters after going 4-8, where'd they find this guy? USC 6-6 max this year, Texas 10-2 minimum.
@@sandragreen642 SC doesn’t play Oregon or Washington. UCLA, Utah, and Oregon st are possible losses. You forgot ND to but 🤷🏾♂️. SC will be favored in the OSU and UCLA game. Bama, Oklahoma, Oklahoma st, Baylor, and Iowa st are all possible losses for TX. Throw in a team that has no business competing as well since TX is good for losing one of those to.
@@therightopinion4619 6-6 I'll stick with it. Big 12 is possibly weaker than Pac 12 this year Okla St will be our toughest game in conf & don't be surprised if we beat bama in 120 degree heat at high noon in Austin. In Aug we practice in worse than that.Bama big boys may drop like flies by fourth quarter
Lincoln Riley is an awful coach. He took over when Stoops gave him a powerhouse team and cost them the title in 2018 with his horrible 2nd half play calling against Georgia. He has no clue about defense, plus those soft west coast players won't be able to go to the Midwest in the winter and win games.
Venables is on pace to have a better class at OU than Riley ever had. I get ESPN has to pump USC up desperately. They are so in need of any team in the California market to matter again. It’s not even a debate though Texas/OU are by far the bigger additions. I mean I don’t even know how this is a debate lol. Oklahoma dominates in just about every sport, and Texas does in everything but football lately. The SEC isn’t losing its crown as top dog anytime soon.
Definitly USC-UCLA….. west coast schools now playing in the Midwest? OU and Texas actually will get to rekindle some rivalry games with Missouri, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and fit more into the SEC….. usc and ucla just don’t belong in the pac 12
The Sooners have been a great program for a long time. The Longhorns haven't done much in a long time. UCLA has been an irrelevant football program for ages. USC was a storied football program. I would choose the UT and Sooners over the two California schools.
Actually both Cali schools made a lot of noise when they moved to big and they were irrelevant on the field but it was seismic. Texas and OU was a big splash but not like the media noise both USC and UCLA made.
USC won a Rose Bowl a few years ago despite incompetent leadership. UCLA finally has competent leadership and should capitalize on their potential with the money coming in (and probably a new head coach)
Also, in 5 years, OU got worse every year. i think Lincoln will be massively successful because of NIL and recruiting, not because he is an actual great coach.
The bigger move money wise is obviously OU and UT to the SEC. The bigger move in terms of changing the world of college football is the USC UCLA move setting the stage for the first national super conference and ultimately ruining college football.
Let me ask, would usc fans sell out a stadium if they lose 2 games in the first 8 games? I could see both ou and Texas doing that but usc fans are a little more fair weathered so just depends if usc can even win and ucla is just there lets be honest
Being a USC fan since a little kid because my brother is an alumn and took me to all the games back in 1990/2000s I think this is awesome 😎 👏🏽. Sucks that USC hasn’t been relevant in over 10 years but this is nuts 🥜
Lmao. Wut? Their own state of texas doesn’t even like Texas University. Everyone mocks them as a bunch of entitled, self-important obnoxious wokesters. Lol 😂
from the dinosaur age. You've been gettinng wrecked by real competition after that 01 championship. OU will forever be everyone's tune up for the natty whenever OU makes the playoffs. You're always little brothered in the big games by the true elite programs of that year.
230 (UCLA/ USC National Championships VS 106 (texas/oklahoma ) not even close now add the TV market and academics…. C’Mon!!! even a hillbilly can figure it out.
Yes Jesse, I couldn’t agree more. But all the OU naysayers are in for a surprise. A friend in Alabama told me there’s mumbling talk in Tuscaloosa about OU’s recruits and the radical change in culture. And Brents defense at Clemson manhandled the SEC teams very well didn’t they?
NEW! UPDATED! CONCISE! THE NEW FULL MEMO ON COLLEGE FOOTBALL REALIGNMENT... Please remember, as Commissioner Warren said, these things are planned well in advance... To the B1G: Pitt, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Utah, Oregon, Kansas and Colorado for 24 (all here mentioned are AAU schools). To the SEC: NC(aau), Duke(aau), UVA(aau), Clemson, Florida St., West Virginia, Georgia Tech(aau), and Virginia Tech for 24. As the SEC still refuses to take Miami, the Hurricanes may end up a third top tier independent. ND and BYU (and Miami) will stay independent with playoff access. B1G24 Pacific division Washington Oregon Stanford Cal USC UCLA B1G24 Mountain Plains division Utah Colorado Nebraska Kansas Minnesota Iowa B1G24 Midwest division Illinois Northwestern Indiana Purdue Wisconsin Ohio State B1G24 Union division Rutgers Maryland Penn State Pitt Michigan Michigan State Meet the SEC24: On the bubble (2 of 3 will join SEC24) Miami (increasingly looking to be the third major independent, joining ND and BYU), West Virginia, and Virginia Tech. Knowing that Pitt is going B1G, that means 7 more ACC schools are needed to break their contract, which may assure the Hokies are in. No chance the other 6 ACC properties get left behind, each are way too valuable. Texas Oklahoma Texas A&M Arkansas Kentucky Missouri LSU Miss State Ole Miss Tennessee Vanderbilt Alabama Auburn Florida Florida St. Georgia Georgia Tech South Carolina Clemson North Carolina Duke UVA Virginia Tech West Virginia The rest to comprise TheThird24 conference with access relegation to playoff eligible divisions (similar to Euro soccer leagues) with guaranteed football playoff slots for their top teams every year. (Realignment for non football sports in this third conference, as membership could include 40 or so schools, with likely only 24 members of which will start the football season with access to the national playoff, more permanent regional sub conferences will be needed, and allowing these regional divisions to develop organically is expected to be one of the final components, and possibly most time consuming, such that the networks/B1G/SEC intend to allow the third conference a couple years of organization before defining a final playoff structure). This third conference is going to be full of baddass non AAU schools from coast to coast, will have playoff access, and likely compete well for national titles moving forward. And now be introduced to TheThird24 Conference: TheThird24 (Assuming Miami goes independent) 1) Oklahoma St. 2) Washington St. 3) TCU 4) Arizona St. 5) Kansas St. 6) Baylor 7) Boise St. 8) Arizona (AAU school) 9) San Diego St. 10) Tulane (AAU school) 11) Rice (AAU school) 12) UCF(disney/espn) 13) Louisville 14) Cincinnati 15) Houston 16) Boston College If the 3rd conference goes to 24: Utah State Syracuse NC State Hawaii Oregon State Fresno State Iowa State Texas Tech and/or SMU or Memphis or Southern Miss or Wake Forrest or Colorado State or Tulsa or Wyoming or New Mexico or UConn or Wichita State or Nevada or Army or Navy or Air Force... etc. Relegation clearly required. So that makes 75 teams with playoff access each year: B1G24, SEC24, TheThird24 (with relegation beyond 24), and independents Notre Dame, Miami, and BYU. How can this happen? Quite simply, really, and in the end likely a value booster for all schools through the 3 mega conferences... Except for the 32 currrent legacy members of the B1G/SEC, revenue sharing as we've known it is finished. The rest will be taken on and paid in accord with their relative fanbase/marketshare and other values brought to the table. And they're selling this beautifully.... This has to be the single best dudes' soap opera to run the sportswire in some time. This is intentional. It's a done deal, but milking the interest is just the first part of this brilliant college football marketing campaign. Also, look for the Rose Bowl to be the B1G championship game each New Year's day, the Sugar for the SEC24, and the Cotton for the Third24. Other bowls will play out during the holidays and could have playoff implications depending on the year. PLAYOFF FLEXIBILITY: The concept of yearly playoff flexibility should be incorporated. Every year is different; setting an arbitray number of playoff slots before the season plays out inevitably rubs against fairness for the next team left out. After the 3 Conference championships on New Year's Day, a commission should call no less than 4 teams, but up to 16, or any (even odd) number in between, such that no eligible undefeated team is left out, and playing such games as necessary to answer but one question: Who is number 1?
The coach don't make the team the player's who are student athletes it takes more than a coach to win games the student athletes put in the work to become a great team OU already has there team that wants to play the best game in the world and get a degree all in the same 4 years and wants to play for OU and not go get soft in SO CAL
Ppl have to realize that SEC expansion is for football & money, while B1G expansion is for tv markets, academics, money, recruiting areas then football. SEC playing checkers while B1G playing chess because they know most of the top talent is already in SEC country so for their football it’s about alumni, tv markets & brands not winning Nat’l Chips.
The PAC12 and BiG12 gotta merge together. Too bad they'll be without USC and UCLA if they do make that conference merger move. The BiG10 actually should have went after Clemson UNC NC Stata and Duke. That way the SEC could pick up FSU and Miami
That will never happen and the Big 12 would be insane to do that, when instead they can just poach the teams the B1G doesn't take. This whole thing is about eliminating teams like Oregon State, not elevating them further.
I agree Oklahoma and Texas is no USC and we don’t know what Oklahoma will be with a new head coach but we know what Lincoln Riley can do and USC is a better destination than Oklahoma big power move by the big ten
SEC by far with Texas and Ok. Big 10 Overrated. With Texas Money not counting new NIL $, Finebaum will quickly discover that they can make A&M chump change if they wish to get into a bidding war with Jimbo. The historic Texas vs A&M rivalry was for Texas like Auburn and Ala in SEC. That will be great Media Push for SEC. I can see a few years down the road an SEC game day in Austin.. with 111000 expected for a Texas vs A&M game.
Lol Wow these are some idiotic takes right here. Texas is the most profitable brand in cfb and OU has been the more successful team out of the bunch for a while now. To act like USC and especially UCLA has been so much more productive than UT is a stretch. Quit acting like LA is some football crazed city. Both of the LA schools attendance average was like 1000 people per game. Also, we’re projecting the impact of the moves in the future And it will not benefit anyone more than Texas.
UCLA football use to be very big deal and has the potential to be a big deal lol I mean in the 80s and 90s they had 5 top 10 appearances combined and had another one 8 years ago just saying they have potential under Chip Kelly 💯
Not under Chip Kelly they're not. The guy can't recruit, can't keep a disciplined team. Once that Big10 cash starts rolling in, UCLA will likely be looking for a new coach.
Dan O. Come on man. Coach Venables and staff will recruit and win better & more than the usc Skittle shitters. You can already see it this year in recruiting. Venables first year and already out doing tbow. smh 🔥BOOMER💥
Texas and OU much bigger. USC and… yeah, is only big due to the footprint being expanded. Everything is about money these days, clearly, so all you have to do is look at revenue of the 2 vs the other 2 and the question is answered. Garbage takes
Lincoln Riley coached at OU for a few years and you don't know what OU is without him? Talk about getting caught up in hype lol.
OU is getting caught up in their own hype. Reality is coming for them when they realize you have to have a strong in state recruiting base to win in the SEC.
@Chandler Russell meanwhile in reality, Oklahoma is Texas North nothing more than another D1 Texas college based upon their roster composition. So no kid, Texas owns Texas. Tulsa is thr true University of Oklahoma.
@@TheElmatador32 you make no sense lol. Dallas is an OU city, thats why they have a 5 star QB from there committed
@@lukespringer4135 LMAO You make no since or are loving outside of reality. Dallas is in the state of Texas. I get it that PU delusional arrogance has a tough time accepting that PU's entire identity is tied to the state of Texas.
I mean, you can’t really get any decent football coverage from the Lebron James network. Everybody knows that
USC hasn’t been relevant since UT beat Em in 2005
You hired our leftovers as coach kid. Pipe down and speak when you’re asked to speak.
@@MOizSUAVE14 Look at this guy he's so upset lmao. Statement came from an SEC fan not a Texas fan. And he's right too LOL
@@cameronmiller1153 He clearly has a Texas shirt in his profile pic, dummy. Seemingly that was the last time Texas was relevant. Zero draft picks this past draft. Didn't Texas hire USC's leftovers though? I'm right too aren't I?
USC has had some good seasons this last decade. Texas has not. Texas is a dumpster fire.
Let’s do recent history since 2010 y’all went 5-7 4X and 1 ten win seasons since 2010 usc won the pac 12 title have 4X ten win season won the rose bowl and that’s with sanctions what y’all excuse NONE y’all just garbage have fun with 7win sark
USC is way better than recruiting than OU? Didn’t Oklahoma just win multiple commits over USC in July? And don’t know what Oklahoma is without Lincoln Riley is hilarious 🤣
Usc always waits until signing day to make news they love that signing day spotlight
i know, lincoln has only got like 5 commits since he left oklahoma and 3 of them are 3 stars. USC is not in the running for a top 50 offensive tackle right now, thats a huge problem. if lincoln doesnt start recruiting more then just QBs and WRs then they arent gonna win a pac 12 title
What commits did they win over USC?
@@Rob_uno Jaquaize Pettaway, Cayden Green, Adepoju Adebawore, Lewis Carter, USC didn’t even make it in any of their top 5 but every single one had an offer
@@392Joel USC did not heavily recruit them at all
Texas And Oklahoma shared conferences and geography with several SEC schools. The Big12 itself isn't very old. The SEC footprint is a huge part of their recruiting territory. So them moving to the SEC, while big, wasn't unexpected. But USC and UCLA bailing on a conference they've been members of for almost a century, for a conference where, as of now, the closest school is Nebraska, was stunning. That was a truly left-field move, and will have more collateral damage by far.
True but it's hard to say Texas OU didn't open the flood gates and almost force Big10's hand.
@@tracejones5952 Not saying one couldn't have happened without the other. Just saying the second move was more shocking and will trigger more collateral damage than the other. Pretty sure a lot of people saw the Texas/Oklahoma move coming, and were prepping for it. But I don't think anybody saw the LA/Big10 power move coming. I would've placed money on the ACC being picked apart before the Pac12 getting poached. And now that both the Pac10 and Big12 are without there most powerful members, it's only a question of time before they fold/meld/whatever..
The real winners are Miss St, Missouri, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, and Iowa. Schools with either small markets or zero fan base bringing in tens of millions each year just from their conference affiliation alone.
I dont see these conferences expanding much more because the existing members don't want to split the revenue with more teams.
Is Orlovsky seriously saying no one knows what OU is like without Riley? Not like there was 14 15 years of OU success with Bob Stoops
Yeah, I caught that too, like Oklahoma has never been any good until Riley got there.. Even though I’m an Alabama fan sometimes I feel the same way with Nick Saban. Yes Bama was in a down cycle when he got there but people sometimes act like they had never won 7 national titles before Saban ever got there. Heck they went 10-2 and finished No.8 in 2005 under Mike Shula even though the stupid NCAA made them vacate all of the victories
He speaking offensively
@@youngmurk100 that doesn’t fix it. Oklahoma was setting records on offense long before Riley. Keep in mind Oklahoma was the first team in history to score 60 or more points in 5 consecutive games. Plus under Stoops our first OC was Mike Leach.
@@NeoAguni the fact of the matter Lincoln learned from stoops all of the offense, tenure is gone, new oc new offense that isn't proven
@@youngmurk100 Jeff Lebby was just OC at Ole Miss and his offense was ranked 5th in the nation.
I'm not a Texas fan, but what is Finebaum saying "Texas hasn't had anything since Vince Young"? Has he forgotten about the years with Colt McCoy when they were in the BCS championship game conversation? If he said since Colt McCoy, I'd wholeheartedly agree, but let's at least be factual in our assessments.
Texas was overrated that year too. They are lucky they got to play against all 3-star teams. Texas is a clown show of a program.
Texas has gone 5-7 in like 4 of the last 8 years. Lol
@@Tijuanabill I'm not a Texas fan, I'm a Michigan fan. I'm just calling it as an outside observer, no skin in the game.
@@Jon.A.Scholt My mistake. Hearing a broken record enough times makes all the scratched songs sound alike. I didn't mean to insult you by lumping you in with Longwhorns.
@@blackout07blue u sound like an aggy. You're the joke. 1939.
I like Orshloskavinski, but UCLA and USC to B10 doesn’t happen without OU and that other school moving. Also what is OU without Lincoln Riley? Idk, just one of the top 3 most successful and consistent programs ever.
And good luck with that “fertile ground”. The top interior Dlineman recruit in California right now is in the 400s ranking wise. Recruiting is fully National now, heck even defending champs, Georgia, can’t hardly get top Georgia guys to stay in-state and source top talent from elsewhere.
“That other school” LMAOOO
USC and UCLA move was happening even without OU moving. The move was only ever about money, not what some other unrelated team did. The pac12 never could have generated enough and was offering a fraction of what B1G and SEC teams make. USC was by far the biggest commercial brand in the conference and the tv contact was up so they moved to triple their money in a conference with equal and bigger commercial draws than them. They were moving regardless of whether OU and Texas stayed.
And OU and Texas to SEC isnt happening without Penn State moving to B1G in the early 90s... 🤷♂️
You’re clueless this was about money it was not about OU and Texas moving
Are you really trying to say that California isn’t elite recruiting ground?
SC is in a much better spot to win big that Oklahoma
Look, I know ESPN personalities base their opinions on what will stir up the most controversy and in some cases are just told what "their" opinion will be, but c'mon. This is just pathetic. They act like if you don't live in California, Florida, or Texas you'll never be able to get another recruit again. They also have a incredibly short outlook on how all this plays out. OU and Texas are bigger brands than UCLA and USC. There's no arguing that. Also, we don't know what LR is going to do at USC. How can you even say that? Plus, if we do assume that, then that means USC will put up about a 100 points a game, be the lesser physical team, and not be able to stop anybody on defense. This is all just so stupid and childish
OU has never been or will ever be a bigger brand than USC. UCLA, yes but notUSC
@@jtyea705 Just not true, especially with USC fading into obscurity ever since the NFL came back to LA. It has really hurt USC and UCLA and I don't think people have been factoring that in yet.
@@jtyea705 dude OU is a more valuable program look it up. ITS A FACT
Uh expect USC is a bigger brand than those two USC is known globally than Oklahoma and Texas
@@Mcyoloswaggy69 plus have you forgotten there were more fans from the opposite fan base at the rams stadium during the playoffs than rams fans? USC is LA and some say they are Hollywood aswell
The SEC got the biggest brands in OU and Texas but the BIG10 expanded their footprint to LA and Southern California. So it’s basically which one do you see as more valuable brands or footprint.
None of those brands are bigger than USC good try tho
@@Rob_uno you're high
@@dontehouston33 well just ask any analysts or in fact anyone that’s just not a fan and they will tell you USC is the most valuable…Finebaum is literally telling you USC is the best brand and you sitting here tryna argue lol
@@Rob_uno OU has a better football program than SC, and Texas has a bigger brand than SC. USC can’t even sell football tickets.
@@dontehouston33 how do we know oU has a better program? Last time we played well you know what happened 55-19 on top of that we are 6-2 against oU…🥱
This is a complete cluster of a conversation. From the start when Paul demonstrates his inability to listen and doesn't know it's not his turn, up until the very end. 🙄
Even as a big ten fan the Texas and Oklahoma move is a bigger deal
The absolute disregard for Oklahoma is hilarious. They've outperformed all three teams for decades and are pushed aside.
USC will continue to get humiliated and I can’t wait to see it. Lincoln Riley taking Alex Grinch with him was the best thing that could’ve happened to program at OU. If Ohio State didn’t want Alex Grinch that should tell you something
Lol USC will be fine.
God ur so salty
USC owns the speed D baby!
Alex Grinch…lol
55-19, lol!
In Football, brand rankings would be USC, Oklahoma, Texas and UCLA. College sports overall, UCLA, USC, Oklahoma, Texas. When you talk brands, you talk legacy, known through out the CFB and sports world.
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Texas/Oklahoma > USC/UCLA
Texas is a dumpster fire of a program who everyone makes fun of 24/7 for being garbage. Lol
Player's want to play in the sec.OU and Texas made the biggest move by a large margin.Look what its done for A&M
What about A&M? A&M averaged a #15 class under Sumlin. Jimbo Fisher is who spiked their recruiting into the Top 7 every year.
And A&M was Irrelevant in the Big 12, and Jimbo is still a 8 Win Coach
2005 Rose bowl Vince Young
2009 Rose Bowl Colt McCoy
Seriously? Texas and OU to the Sec is wayyyyyyyyyyy bigger. People hate Texas so much that they stop thinking logically. Texas will be back sooner rather then later with this move to the SEC. Oklahoma has always been relevant in college football.
Mad dog be looking at the camera funny when he not talking
Ou and tex are way bigger brands then usc and ucla no one cares about ucla or usc lol
This ain't even the question we need answers to right now... What is happening with the pac 12
Hilarious that Dan thinks we just have no idea how OU will be under Venables. He hasn't been a head coach before, that's true. But, he's experienced, coached with 3 legend HCs, won championships, beat Saban and Bama, and developed incredible talent. OU is a step up for him....but let's not make it sounds like this is something he might fail at. Venny's got this.
Well said and on topic
Lincoln came to OU as an offensive coordinator. BOOMER!!!!!
NIL favors schools in large markets, and the Big 10 now have Chicago, New York, and LA.
SEC is a brand that get kids to the NFL so the move will benefit OU and Texas. Those large markets don’t matter. NFL run those markets in those big cities. I think what makes the SEC successful is they go to markets that does not have NFL teams dominating them and rich historic fan bases. USC have been good but in a lot of those kids that they want to recruit they haven’t been relevant. So it’s more of an unknown with the move to the Big 10. And UCLA is irrelevant.
@@bharp375 - It does matter in terms of $$$. Now big ten games will be on in LA. The new Fox deals the Big Ten will get coming up here will be massive. They also have the DC market as well. USC was the biggest brand available and Big Ten landed them. Notre Dame is the next big one that will eventually fall.
@@leakedclipsdaily I'm able to watch almost any college football game I want down here in the south no matter what conference it is so I'm not sure if it's the same up north or out west but if it is then I don't understand how it makes much of a difference if Big 10 games were already playing in LA to begin with. Plus people up north and out west tend to care about the NFL more than College football anyways so idk why they'd all of a sudden start watching college football more just because USC is in the big 10. College Football is just bigger in the south and will still have the bigger draw towards viewership.
@@AK-sq1jl because of the B1G network. The conference receives a payout from cable companies for every household that their network is on in. Now because the LA schools are B1G, the B1G network will be available in the regional cable package.
@@LuckyLefty92 I get the Big10 network here in the south too so I'm betting they already get it out there in LA too. USC and UCLA fans will probably be more interested in watching the network now though. Still I think those 3 major markets combined will probably at best only equal the amount of interest there is in college football in the south as a whole.
I don't think it's a fair comparison, the NIL decision was made in 2021. Nobody understood the impact NIL would have on revenue sports. That drove USC and UCLA away from the PAC-12.
Riley was handed a team that was stacked... muuuuch easier to get good fast at Ou than USC based off how Stoops left the program vs previous coaches at USC lmao thats the big difference!
Wrong Dan! Oklahoma made Lincoln Riley. uSC beast? They have been irrelevant for years. Your talking California, not Florida or Louisiana or Georgia recruiting.
Please, how people always forget that usc was 4-8 last yr and getting Riley was a huge loss
Do you know why ALABAMA and OKLAHOMA are the greatest teams year in and year out cause the eat sleep learn football they are not going to the most pampered state in our beautiful country witch is California here in Oklahoma we wake up at 4am and start working out same as Alabama and when we have free time we are not going and getting pedicures we are studying the playbook or working out so I don't know how you all think coach Riley is going to make USC that much better in his first season give him a few seasons but every USC fan is going to want him fired if he don't win the big one in his first 2 seasons and he is a soft coach he is a great offensive mind but the defensive strategy he runs gets exposed and burnt his defense is his offense and you all just say what you think people want to hear grow a pair and tell it like it is talk about all the players who thought he was some one else and found out he has no loyalty that is the hard truth and I guarantee CW throws the most ints in the pac12 he is a great player and a hard worker but now he is being pampered is he still going to give it his all only time will tell
Stop bunching Alabama with Oklahoma they are nothing alike. Oklahoma will never be at that level
That 4 o’clock wake up didn’t help much the last time SC and OU played. 😂😂😂
What a weird take, grouping the all-timer dynasty with a program that's never won a playoff game.
Oklahoma would go 7-5 or 8-4 in the SEC almost every year. They have benefited from playing all 3-star teams in the Big12. Texas will go 5-7 again in the SEC.
Alabama has won like 6 championships in the last 14 years. Oklahoma has won ZERO championships in the last 20+ years. Lol
Arch Manning is a 3-star.
We'll probably see if Arch is for real on Oct. 8th.
i was a fan of Dan until this very moment.. to act like Riley was the savior of the program is pure insanity!
People seem to forgot UCLA was at one point ranked in the top 10 in the nation last year, beat USC by 30 on the road and was a few plays away from beating Oregon after having College Gameday at UCLA. Obviously USC is the bigger program historically but let's not act like UCLA is irrelevant. They've been better than USC recently.
Clay Helton is no longer coaching at USC.
All four of these teams won. Huge. The SEC media market is incredibly powerful with ESPN powering them. Big Ten is right there as well but they have the wider reach from coast to coast. UCLA and USC made the biggest jump in improvement because the Pac 12 network is absolutely garbage and their social media team is led by a blind person. I'm just excited for the changes. I love it when tables are flipped.
ESPN better worry about the financial health of their parent company - Disney - which isn't doing so well these days. If ESPN is the shiny skyscraper, Disney is the infrastructure. If the infrastructure goes, it takes the shiny new skyscraper down along with it.
SEC can’t compete with the big ten now
@Chandler Russell oh and I’ll take what you’re smoking
Lol. Texas is about to go 5-7 every year in the SEC.
Big 10 had the 3 biggest media markets in LA, NY, and Chicago
It's gotta be USC/UCLA. You have to take this from a NIL standpoint. To have the LA market is huge, not to mention all the talent that is in California. The reason why USC in particular hasn't been as good is because they aren't able to recruit their in town athletes. They have been going to the SEC/BIG 10. With NIL now, the opportunity to make millions as a student athlete and what LA has to offer, they should be able to attract talent from other states + plus keep more of their in state recruits. LA is great once you have money and the NIL provides that.
@Robert Acosta NIL is definitely game changing or else you wouldn't have a player like Travis Hunter going to Jackson St. The option to make money early and not having to worry about what gives me the greatest shot at the NFL and clearly "money". Alabama recruiting is definitely down and Texas A&M with all that oil money is up heavily. In the case of USC, the pac-12 in general has gone downhill. California talent were choosing the Big 10/SEC because that would give them the greatest shot at the NFL and ultimately "money". With USC now joining the BIG 10 and with NIL available, they are now in a top 2 conference for competitive play and also NIL will entice players to stay or come to California. California is a great place if you have the money and NIL provides that.
@Robert Acosta USC is down because of incompetent hires at the AD and HC level. First Lane Kiffin, then Sarkisian, and most recently Clay Helton. I'm not sure how Lincoln Riley will fare, but he's already generated enough buzz to get more talent into the program, that's already a good sign. Chip Kelley on the other hand, has his days numbered at UCLA.
Hysterical Oklahoma is completely out recruiting USC so your hypothesis is wrong... Riley went to USC because it would have been an easy conference for him to dominate he is not happy about having to play Ohio Wisconsin Penn state Michigan state Michigan....
Crazy Texas is less than UCLA because they were 5-7 last year, but USC suddenly world beaters after going 4-8, where'd they find this guy? USC 6-6 max this year, Texas 10-2 minimum.
USC wins 9 games at least stop hating lol what makes you think TX will win 10 games but SC won’t?
@@therightopinion4619 UCLA Utah Oregon Stanford Oregon State Washington Arizona all possible losses. No defense
@@sandragreen642 SC doesn’t play Oregon or Washington. UCLA, Utah, and Oregon st are possible losses. You forgot ND to but 🤷🏾♂️. SC will be favored in the OSU and UCLA game.
Bama, Oklahoma, Oklahoma st, Baylor, and Iowa st are all possible losses for TX. Throw in a team that has no business competing as well since TX is good for losing one of those to.
@@therightopinion4619 6-6 I'll stick with it. Big 12 is possibly weaker than Pac 12 this year Okla St will be our toughest game in conf & don't be surprised if we beat bama in 120 degree heat at high noon in Austin. In Aug we practice in worse than that.Bama big boys may drop like flies by fourth quarter
Texas has a better chance of going 5-7 again. They are truly a garbage program.
Coach Deion Primetime Sanders is about to be legendary the Coach of JACKSON STATE TIGERS 🐅
About to be? Prime time BEEN a legend
Why?
@@tjlift22 All the best to Dion! Amazing athlete, great personality and he’s gonna do great things.
Y’all really think kids are going to go to USC knowing they have to go play in the freezing cold for like 4-6 games.
Lol Florida recruits go to Ohio st. USC will be fine SoCal kids have always wanted to be at SC.
Yeah, going 5-7 in the burning heat is better. Lmao
UCLA is going to the Big 10 for basketball and USC for football
Does Dan know any OU football history? 😂
Lincoln Riley is an awful coach. He took over when Stoops gave him a powerhouse team and cost them the title in 2018 with his horrible 2nd half play calling against Georgia. He has no clue about defense, plus those soft west coast players won't be able to go to the Midwest in the winter and win games.
Venables is on pace to have a better class at OU than Riley ever had. I get ESPN has to pump USC up desperately. They are so in need of any team in the California market to matter again. It’s not even a debate though Texas/OU are by far the bigger additions. I mean I don’t even know how this is a debate lol. Oklahoma dominates in just about every sport, and Texas does in everything but football lately. The SEC isn’t losing its crown as top dog anytime soon.
Definitly USC-UCLA….. west coast schools now playing in the Midwest? OU and Texas actually will get to rekindle some rivalry games with Missouri, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and fit more into the SEC….. usc and ucla just don’t belong in the pac 12
And another consideration. USC and UCLA will be spending much more time traveling than being in mostly on the West Coast. And that is a big change.
The Sooners have been a great program for a long time. The Longhorns haven't done much in a long time. UCLA has been an irrelevant football program for ages. USC was a storied football program. I would choose the UT and Sooners over the two California schools.
Actually both Cali schools made a lot of noise when they moved to big and they were irrelevant on the field but it was seismic. Texas and OU was a big splash but not like the media noise both USC and UCLA made.
@@robertmartinjr.6292 because the media is full of liberals and California is the biggest liberal state.
@@heydude2121 I think it's more of the brand than than political ideology.
@@robertmartinjr.6292 politics play a big part in it to dude.
USC won a Rose Bowl a few years ago despite incompetent leadership. UCLA finally has competent leadership and should capitalize on their potential with the money coming in (and probably a new head coach)
Also, in 5 years, OU got worse every year. i think Lincoln will be massively successful because of NIL and recruiting, not because he is an actual great coach.
We don't know how Riley coaches....lol....he was handed a Ferrari at Oklahoma....and only got worse.....
He won the Big12 like 6 of 7 years. And was finally recruiting super-elite before he left.
@@blackout07blue Yeah so elite he is known as o-fer in the CFP!
The bigger move money wise is obviously OU and UT to the SEC. The bigger move in terms of changing the world of college football is the USC UCLA move setting the stage for the first national super conference and ultimately ruining college football.
B10 both LA schools stop playing
FAS kind of dazzled look in the middle and a drunk New Yorker on the right. That's ESPN talent
This lone college student in grey behind Paul is getting his 15 seconds of fame
Oklahoma and Texas is a bigger move USC and UCLA to the big 10 doesn't happen without that move.
When did Mad Dog came on ESPN lol?
OU is fixin to educate the world on who we are!
ucla in the 90s and late 80s was wayyyy better than SC
Let me ask, would usc fans sell out a stadium if they lose 2 games in the first 8 games? I could see both ou and Texas doing that but usc fans are a little more fair weathered so just depends if usc can even win and ucla is just there lets be honest
Uhh yeah. All the away fans will be happy to pick up the tickets
@@josephpotter7776 depends how many they lose. Novelty only last so long. But big ten fans much more passionate than pac 12 fans thats for sure.
Being a USC fan since a little kid because my brother is an alumn and took me to all the games back in 1990/2000s I think this is awesome 😎 👏🏽. Sucks that USC hasn’t been relevant in over 10 years but this is nuts 🥜
Texas is the biggest brand out there!!!
Lmao. Wut? Their own state of texas doesn’t even like Texas University. Everyone mocks them as a bunch of entitled, self-important obnoxious wokesters. Lol 😂
Texas is a literal dumpster fire. Even their Longhorn Network is going bankrupt.
Yes, but everyone wants to ignore this fact. Lol
What is OU without Lincoln Riley oh idk maybe 7 time National Champions
from the dinosaur age. You've been gettinng wrecked by real competition after that 01 championship. OU will forever be everyone's tune up for the natty whenever OU makes the playoffs. You're always little brothered in the big games by the true elite programs of that year.
Not even close lol OU and Texas
230 (UCLA/ USC National Championships VS 106 (texas/oklahoma ) not even close now add the TV market and academics…. C’Mon!!! even a hillbilly can figure it out.
The Pac-12 didn't win a bowl game last year. History won't get you a natty.
Yes Jesse, I couldn’t agree more. But all the OU naysayers are in for a surprise. A friend in Alabama told me there’s mumbling talk in Tuscaloosa about OU’s recruits and the radical change in culture. And Brents defense at Clemson manhandled the SEC teams very well didn’t they?
Arch Manning has yet to prove himself. Only by name.
Why must they insist on playing the canned music in the background every time someone starts talking…
NEW! UPDATED! CONCISE!
THE NEW FULL MEMO ON COLLEGE FOOTBALL REALIGNMENT...
Please remember, as Commissioner Warren said, these things are planned well in advance...
To the B1G: Pitt, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Utah, Oregon, Kansas and Colorado for 24 (all here mentioned are AAU schools).
To the SEC: NC(aau), Duke(aau), UVA(aau), Clemson, Florida St., West Virginia, Georgia Tech(aau), and Virginia Tech for 24.
As the SEC still refuses to take Miami, the Hurricanes may end up a third top tier independent.
ND and BYU (and Miami) will stay independent with playoff access.
B1G24 Pacific division
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
Cal
USC
UCLA
B1G24 Mountain Plains division
Utah
Colorado
Nebraska
Kansas
Minnesota
Iowa
B1G24 Midwest division
Illinois
Northwestern
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Ohio State
B1G24 Union division
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
Pitt
Michigan
Michigan State
Meet the SEC24:
On the bubble (2 of 3 will join SEC24) Miami (increasingly looking to be the third major independent, joining ND and BYU), West Virginia, and Virginia Tech.
Knowing that Pitt is going B1G, that means 7 more ACC schools are needed to break their contract, which may assure the Hokies are in. No chance the other 6 ACC properties get left behind, each are way too valuable.
Texas
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Kentucky
Missouri
LSU
Miss State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida St.
Georgia
Georgia Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
North Carolina
Duke
UVA
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
The rest to comprise TheThird24 conference with access relegation to playoff eligible divisions (similar to Euro soccer leagues) with guaranteed football playoff slots for their top teams every year. (Realignment for non football sports in this third conference, as membership could include 40 or so schools, with likely only 24 members of which will start the football season with access to the national playoff, more permanent regional sub conferences will be needed, and allowing these regional divisions to develop organically is expected to be one of the final components, and possibly most time consuming, such that the networks/B1G/SEC intend to allow the third conference a couple years of organization before defining a final playoff structure).
This third conference is going to be full of baddass non AAU schools from coast to coast, will have playoff access, and likely compete well for national titles moving forward.
And now be introduced to TheThird24 Conference:
TheThird24
(Assuming Miami goes independent)
1) Oklahoma St.
2) Washington St.
3) TCU
4) Arizona St.
5) Kansas St.
6) Baylor
7) Boise St.
8) Arizona (AAU school)
9) San Diego St.
10) Tulane (AAU school)
11) Rice (AAU school)
12) UCF(disney/espn)
13) Louisville
14) Cincinnati
15) Houston
16) Boston College
If the 3rd conference goes to 24:
Utah State
Syracuse
NC State
Hawaii
Oregon State
Fresno State
Iowa State
Texas Tech and/or SMU or Memphis or Southern Miss or Wake Forrest or Colorado State or Tulsa or Wyoming or New Mexico or UConn or Wichita State or Nevada or Army or Navy or Air Force... etc. Relegation clearly required.
So that makes 75 teams with playoff access each year: B1G24, SEC24, TheThird24 (with relegation beyond 24), and independents Notre Dame, Miami, and BYU.
How can this happen?
Quite simply, really, and in the end likely a value booster for all schools through the 3 mega conferences...
Except for the 32 currrent legacy members of the B1G/SEC, revenue sharing as we've known it is finished. The rest will be taken on and paid in accord with their relative fanbase/marketshare and other values brought to the table.
And they're selling this beautifully.... This has to be the single best dudes' soap opera to run the sportswire in some time. This is intentional.
It's a done deal, but milking the interest is just the first part of this brilliant college football marketing campaign.
Also, look for the Rose Bowl to be the B1G championship game each New Year's day, the Sugar for the SEC24, and the Cotton for the Third24.
Other bowls will play out during the holidays and could have playoff implications depending on the year.
PLAYOFF FLEXIBILITY:
The concept of yearly playoff flexibility should be incorporated. Every year is different; setting an arbitray number of playoff slots before the season plays out inevitably rubs against fairness for the next team left out.
After the 3 Conference championships on New Year's Day, a commission should call no less than 4 teams, but up to 16, or any (even odd) number in between, such that no eligible undefeated team is left out, and playing such games as necessary to answer but one question:
Who is number 1?
The coach don't make the team the player's who are student athletes it takes more than a coach to win games the student athletes put in the work to become a great team OU already has there team that wants to play the best game in the world and get a degree all in the same 4 years and wants to play for OU and not go get soft in SO CAL
That's false USC was relevant every year Pete Carroll was there. Period!
Lincoln is not as good as venables . OU will be a national championship team soon
Don't know whose worse, Paul F or Mad Dog...it's pretty close.
Dan is right ✌🏼✌🏼💯💯
Ppl have to realize that SEC expansion is for football & money, while B1G expansion is for tv markets, academics, money, recruiting areas then football. SEC playing checkers while B1G playing chess because they know most of the top talent is already in SEC country so for their football it’s about alumni, tv markets & brands not winning Nat’l Chips.
The BIG definitely won this considering UCLA and USC is ranked and OU and Texas not ranked talk about what have you done for me lately…
University of South Alabama needs to jump to the ACC or BiG12
The PAC12 and BiG12 gotta merge together. Too bad they'll be without USC and UCLA if they do make that conference merger move. The BiG10 actually should have went after Clemson UNC NC Stata and Duke. That way the SEC could pick up FSU and Miami
That will never happen and the Big 12 would be insane to do that, when instead they can just poach the teams the B1G doesn't take. This whole thing is about eliminating teams like Oregon State, not elevating them further.
Not sure 🤷♂️
Was this a comedy skit?
USC and its all jerry McGuire "Show me the money".
Mad Dog and Acho have the hottest and most annoying takes at ESPN 🤦🏾♂️
Best more texas and Oklahoma. Bigger move usc UCLA's. Literally they going to have some long distance away games.
Wow these people are detached from reality lol
FUCLA is just riding along for the joy ride. They're good in Football twice every 8 years. 🤣
Oklahoma and UT's 7-Win Steve will be SEC's whipping boy....While USC actually had a winning record vs the BIG-10....
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So you’re gonna ignore Oklahoma having a winning record against the SEC?
I agree Oklahoma and Texas is no USC and we don’t know what Oklahoma will be with a new head coach but we know what Lincoln Riley can do and USC is a better destination than Oklahoma big power move by the big ten
Well we know Texas is an absolute dumpster fire.
Lol
USC n ucla just because that’s about woman’s n mens basketball n football
I agree with mad dog
SEC by far with Texas and Ok. Big 10 Overrated. With Texas Money not counting new NIL $, Finebaum will quickly discover that they can make A&M chump change if they wish to get into a bidding war with Jimbo. The historic Texas vs A&M rivalry was for Texas like Auburn and Ala in SEC. That will be great Media Push for SEC. I can see a few years down the road an SEC game day in Austin.. with 111000 expected for a Texas vs A&M game.
This segment was terrible.
And it was particularly because of the topic.
Since when was UCLA relevant
do they answer?
Lincoln Riley won 85% of his games but who did he play?
USC and UCLA are trash😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️.
They’re not trash compared to the dumpster fire that is the Texas Jayhawks.
@@blackout07blue Jayhawks?
The only good thing about the Big Ten expansion is now they have a decent chance of getting a baseball team to Omaha.
Lol Wow these are some idiotic takes right here. Texas is the most profitable brand in cfb and OU has been the more successful team out of the bunch for a while now. To act like USC and especially UCLA has been so much more productive than UT is a stretch. Quit acting like LA is some football crazed city. Both of the LA schools attendance average was like 1000 people per game. Also, we’re projecting the impact of the moves in the future And it will not benefit anyone more than Texas.
UCLA football use to be very big deal and has the potential to be a big deal lol I mean in the 80s and 90s they had 5 top 10 appearances combined and had another one 8 years ago just saying they have potential under Chip Kelly 💯
Eh, they're lightweights in football.
Not under Chip Kelly they're not. The guy can't recruit, can't keep a disciplined team. Once that Big10 cash starts rolling in, UCLA will likely be looking for a new coach.
Dan O. Come on man. Coach Venables and staff will recruit and win better & more than the usc Skittle shitters. You can already see it this year in recruiting. Venables first year and already out doing tbow. smh
🔥BOOMER💥
Seriously?
Riley won with stoops players lol ..smh
Texas and OU much bigger. USC and… yeah, is only big due to the footprint being expanded. Everything is about money these days, clearly, so all you have to do is look at revenue of the 2 vs the other 2 and the question is answered. Garbage takes
Dan Finebaum 😂
Mad dog is super annoying.
Usc
All them teams is trash 🗑 but ou so called blue bloods please