Keyshawn's question regarding USC/UCLA playing in the cold weather in October and November, is no different from AFC west teams, LA Chargers and Vegas Raiders playing in Kansas City and Denver during those months. It is good exposure for those kids when they transition to the NFL. The professionalization of College Football is well underway. Long may it continue. My only gripe is the delight to which Paul Finebaum dismisses schools that will not be part of this new sporting era. What is the point of looking forward to change, yet ruthlessly castigate (insult) excluded lesser programs? His arrogant tone (southern hubris, imo) is grating.
you're uneducated it's actually embarrassing, AFC West teams are comprised of players from many different colleges/regions USC and UCLA are compromise 95% or more from California/SoCal high school student athletes, them playing in the cold definitely is a factor. do your research bro it's free
If UCLA figures out how to operate its football program, it should become a consistent and very solid B/B+ program that spends most of its time in the top 20-25. Soon, USC should be back as a consistent top 15 team, that frequently is in the top 10. Look for USC to be a legitimate national championship contender about once every three years. But both schools need to take action to improve themselves. They can't just sit around and wait for lightening to strike. Lots of potential at SC and UCLA.
@@marcusjones5287 They sell basketball tickets just fine. Championships? Ucla alone joining the Big10 DOUBLES the championship total for men's basketball.
In other news, USC has announced it is moving its campus from Downtown Los Angeles to El Paso Texas to take advantage of State Incentives and lower housing costs for its staff and students.
More than a little. They’ve been second best team behind only OSU in B1G since 2015! Regardless of division! If there were no divisions for all those crying in eastern division wisc still would have played osu every year but one. 😆🤣
Living here in Wisconsin agree with you. But I’m not so excited about this season or next unless we get a better quarterback. Mertz is not gonna cut it.
Key about to find out. 6 of the top 20 defenses every year are in the big 10. Looking forward to a USC night game at Camp Randall in late October. Excited.
The NCAA made the Pac 10/Pac 12 irrelevant by first destroying Washington's football program, and then destroying USC's. In fact, Oregon's program got wrecked as well. It seems like whenever a west coast team does well, the NCAA swoops in and lays waste to the program. I have a hard time believing that west coast teams are the only ones who ever break the rules.
very true thye all brak them its big money alwys calling the shots. its not college for education or pride. its all about greed and fixed sports gambling and the tv corporations. sports is a joke
It's about media markets and money more than winning. I think the SEC will still dominate in football, but that's not what the BIG TEN seems to care about as much.
Half the teams in the B1G are far from powerhouses in football. IL, IA, Iowa State, Rutgers, Maryland, IU, MN and Northwestern don’t cause sleepless. If BTS for any opposing team.
As a Michigan fan I'm really happy for this. I really like USC and UCLA. These changes will be neat and exciting for college sports. Excited to see Texas and Oklahoma in the sec too. I live in Austin. Not a longhorns fan but it would be epic to see Texas versus bama in Austin 😃
Lol, yeah- Paul is entertaining but I never take anything he says seriously…I mean, the guy literally wrote a book about the SEC saying “my conference is better than your conference”. He is the epitome of a “homer”.
I mean they have pretty much dominated college football since 2005. Clemson, Florida state, and Ohio State are the only non SEC teams to win the championship since then. Are they obnoxious? Yep. Is it earned? Absolutely!
@@littlerockdoc3183 What does Alabama have to do with the transfer of USC/UCLA to the big 10? This dickhead w/ glasses is not about college football as a whole. Duh!
Anyone who takes Paul Finebaum seriously should have their he'd examined. Finebaum is never wrong....because he changes his opinion weekly, and sometimes daily.
"No one else matters" Thanks Paul. What made College Football so popular? Fans and alum of ALL the schools enjoying the sport and hoping for a title at some point. Now..."No one else matters"
When the Los Angeles schools leave that is not only the end of the PAC-12, but it is the end of college athletics, with the subsidy model for Olympic sports and the student athlete concept in general. This is all about money, and green talks loud. The players are going to say, "we have full-time jobs while administrators have $ million dollar salaries. We have NIL, now we want more." So at the very least these football players will become semi-professionals, distinctly different than the rest of the student body. Good Bye to College Athletics.
You do realize this is great for the Olympic sports & other sports at USC/UCLA besides just football haha. UCLA & USC's Olympic sports are some of the best in the nation & they were in debt & this new deal with the BIG 10 is amazing for them and the athletes that aren't in major sports like football 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Since the NCAA is pretty much being scrapped at this rate, I would love to see a European relegation system take its place. Like take one elite conference and attach a few of the others as secondary and tertiary leagues. Repeat that 2-3 times. Then you can take the top 2-3 teams from each of the top conferences and make up the CFB Playoffs.
using euro football as a lens, I can see a Champions League and Europa League type of system, not a reg and promo system. Still, maybe the 2 super conferences (SEC big 10)have a champ and everyone else has one and perhaps they play a super cup championship?
Relegation will/can NOT happen. And frankly it is even stupid to bring it up. A) how do you recruit? Players are there 2-5 years, not long term professional contracts. B) how do you sell season tickets? At what prices? What donations?
The NFL will set up a minor league system where they draft and develop players from 18-24. NCAA football will be dead in 5 years. Football players don’t care about “eDucAtiOn”, they want money and an NFL career.
I am stlll shocked and excited about this move. The Pac12 was run very poorly. I still think the SEC gets a little bit too much respect and BigTen gets an "atah boy" from the country. BigTen has superior universities academically to the SEC; adding UCLA and USC has put the 2 of the Top 3 All Time National title winners in The Big Ten. UCLA = Massive Basketball power in best hoops conference. USC has been solid last few years, hoops wise. My USC should be interesting competitors with Coach Riley. (U of Minnesota Dad and USC Alum here).
lol what are you talking about neither of these teams made it past sweet sixteen. They all suck in football cause your going watch michigan and its one hit wonder season take a nose dive
I feel like the main reason USC made this move is because their football team in particular hasn't been that good after the early 2000s run with Pete Carroll so they need the Big 10 affiliation for relevancy and profit...But when they were winning they were one of the most popular teams not just in college but in all of American sports and Reggie Bush was one of the most popular athletes in America...they didn't need an affiliation with anybody and I know there revenue was through the roof...this is along with being in the 2nd largest media market in the country...being a good player on those early USC teams was literally celebrity status and they had Snoop Dogg, one of the biggest celebrities in the world, as one of their biggest fans and promoters of the brand
ya dude I had just started following college 🏈 & got the Athlon magazine with Reggie Bush featured. Him & Leinart had to literally have bodyguards following em around campus!
The time difference will hurt the two west coast teams as far as game preparation and being at full strength ready to go. The ncaa should’ve made 4 power conferences with the Pac12 and MWC for the west, Big10 for the North, SEC for the south and the ACC for the east. Of course it would be too much to add a whole conference to another like Pac12 and MWC or even the Big12 to the sec but they’d be able to figure out that split on who goes where and how the NCAA bracket would look come seasons end heading into a newly structured playoff system. But of course bowl games regardless of how insignificant they are amount to $$$
The destruction of college sports - fans/students aren’t able to travel to away games. Sports that play multiple times in the week are going to have a logistical nightmare.
I agree there’s no chance FSU & Miami get left behind (there’s also no world we ever have or ever will live in whereby UNC is “a better pick” than the previously mentioned)…but I think the ACC is already dead, it just hasn’t become fully evident yet. There is ZERO chance however that the BIG or SEC looks around and says “you know what, let’s take this UNC team that’s been decent 3 times in its entire history instead of 2 of the most electric & dominant programs in CFB history…we don’t want to bother with the enormous, national, global fan base those 2 teams have…we’ll just take N. Carolina & make money off of its 26 fans”. Paul has always had a VERY OPEN bIas & distain for UM/FSU, and he’s a windup artist…so I tend to take anything he says with an enormous heap of salt. Even as an fsu fan who haaaaates Miami I have no problem whatsoever saying that they’re one of the most historically exciting programs in all of CFB…and what they’ve accomplished (and what they most definitely will accomplish in the future) is undeniable.
@@seminoldschool7032 They are talking about markets. The Charlotte/Raleigh market is 2.5 million viewers and in college football it dominated by UNC. The Miami/Fort Lauderdale market is 1.6 million and in college football it is shared by Miami Hurricanes, Florida Gators and FSU. Plus all the teams that the northern retirees follow. The Charlotte/Raleigh market is much more valuable to a football Confrence than Miami is.
@@marcus813 It’s about SEC CFB viewership with tv deals. UNC Football owns the Charlotte and Raleigh markets so you combine them. The Entire Florida markets already has an SEC team (UF) in that market. The UNC market is more valuable to the SEC than what little pull Miami football would have. You have to look at it as an SEC executive would.
@@joseamaya4445 USC and PSU will also be there eventually. The Big Ten is about to become the highest revenue conference on top of already being one of the most profitable. That money will translate to titles eventually, along with the fact that all their schools have rich alumni networks to pay players.
@@scratchpenny UT and USC have very deep pockets, haven’t done much, but you are right, it should eventually translate but I am tired of hearing Texas is back for more than years to watch them go 5-7 with top 3 recruiting class along with USC 5-7 record with a top 10 recruiting class. I can see Penn State coming up eventually, but Michigan State and Wisconsin will probably just be consistent 9-3 win schools
@@joseamaya4445 Probably, right. Although, what's going to happen in the future, is that no team not in the premier conferences will be able to compete due to the nature of NIL deals. So even a lesser school in the Big Ten or SEC will still be a relatively top-tier talented team with a slight chance. But everyone else won't have any shot. That's somewhat true today but will be even more true in the future with the drastic difference in revenue for the top conferences. For example, USC and UCLA just doubled their yearly TV revenue by joining the Big Ten. On another note, I don't think the Big Ten cares about winning as much as the SEC. They are operating with different strategies, IMO. The Big Ten seems to care more about revenue, prestige, media markets, and even academics than about winning. And this is paying off in a weird way, where they consistently earn more than almost every other conference.
@@ke-wayLA6060 Only in the YT comments section does $100M mean nothing. SMDH. I bet if that money was going to your bank account, it would mean something then.
Finebaum makes a very important point "As long as Nick Saban is at Alabama". But guess what? Saban is getting older. Once he leaves Alabama the SEC will come back down to Earth. Saban and Bama's success is THE reason the SEC is where it is. If you don't have Alabama winning titles every two or three years it opens things up greatly. And Saban forced teams to get better. Georgia is where Georgia is because Saban raised the standards. A&M, LSU, Auburn; all these teams were forced to get much much better. Without that incentive I think there is room for things to slip. Of course we'll only know what happens when Saban retires. But one thing that is for sure is that it'll be very interesting.
@@Jon.A.Scholt Your talking about Bama carrying the SEC which it is not. When Saban steps down Kirby will take his place. The dominance of the SEC will continue with the other programs popping up to win titles like they’ve been doing. Last 3 years 3 different SEC teams have won titles, I agree with everything that else stated about Saban upping the competitive level in the league. But that has been established and won’t unravel when he leaves.
@@williamwhitfield6225 To say Kirby will take his place is also saying that he will equal the achievements of Saban which are unprecedented. You're comfortable with saying Kirby Smart will win 5 more titles? Or 6 if you count his at LSU? And also be runner up 3 other times? And all in the next 13 years? I admire your confidence but I think most would say that's not happening. But what you are I think doesn't matter much but it'll be fun to see what happens. College football is like the wild west now!
As an Arizona state fan, I’ve always hated usc but just when I thought I couldn’t hate them more they completely fucked the pac 12. I find it ironic they move right after a very disappointing season. I hope the program declines because of this move.
You should have respected what they have traditionally brought to the table. Though they've been down they were still the Pac12 flagship football program. Instead, petty thinking like yours compelled the Pac12 to choose conference parity rather than national relevance. Well , now you don't have worry about it.Have all the mediocre parity you want.
@@scottrichardson3800 well, the hiring of Lincoln Riley who's a proven winner will remedy the inconsistency. His recruiting is going very well. USC is aware of what they're getting into in the Big 10. Plus, they've got two years to replenish their talent level. They'll be fine
I'm a USC fan but I do hope to see UCLA improve and become a top team... 2nd to USC of course. Also hoping to get some of them cornfed boys on our line. Come on down to Sunny Southern California and still get to play your childhood team.
As a UCLA fan I hope USC becomes a top team in basketball too. But gonna be honest. Thinking Im not gonna hate sc as much anymore. Kind of look at it as USC /UCLA vs the big 10. I can't root for an Indiana or Wisconsin team over an LA team. Only LA team I would never root for are the clippers
All the advantages they have had and now you inject that kind of money? I can easily see UCLA being a consistent 8/9 win team at the very least similar to Wisconsin. That is if they get rid of Chip Kelly.
This was a business decision, not a decision that had anything to do with the best interest of the students' academic achievement. Glad to see the facade of collegiate athletes not being real employees is fading away. It was never true, but now they're not trying to hide it.
@@cartersports1 I don't think ND was ever denied admission to the B1G. Some years back, ND was lukewarm about joining the B1G, and it did not come in. A lot has happened since then. ND, in my opinion, needs to now join a powerhouse conference, or end up playing Tulsa every week.
I still don't understand why the big guys keep Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Wake Forest, etc around. That's the next big change, pushing out all the academic schools that don't generate a lot of football and basketball revenue for the factories.
I imagine the B1G ends up taking all the AAU Pac10 schools and the SEC will poach the best of the ACC. I see both conferences ending up in the neighbohood of 24 teams.
Sick of Iowa getting disrespected by getting left out of all these comments (only mentioning Mich ,OSU, Wisc, Penn and MSU). Iowa is one of the top ten winningest programs in the last 7 years and easily top 25 in the history of college football. They absolutely took USC to the woodshed last time they played too
Yeah I'm interested to see how they try and set up divisions or what they do. I'm honestly losing a bit of passion for it overall. Paying students for the name and image is one thing. Giving a dude over 3 million to leave Pitt to join USC stuff like that. We will see where this is all at in a year or two but the trajectory it's on has a reckoning coming at some point
@Who Dat OSU has some of the best O-line and D-line players in the country bro, only bad game they had was against Hutchinson. Also Minnesota had a bigger line last season than the Vikings, if USC thinks they can last an entire season against lines like that they’re smoking crack.
@@49ersrocketsrider2 yeah you right Maryland and Rutger are definitely equal to USC and UCLA in every way they both perform the same every year and suck
Oh, UCLA will be JUST fine. I’m not a fan, not even a follower…but I’ve been a CFB fan my entire life (plus I’m old now sooo I’ve seen a lot lol) & I know that UCLA is perpetually ONE good move away from returning to elite status (just like Miami or FSU or UF or any blue blood program located in prime recruiting country)
NIL money is going to get insane in the Big Ten. The biggest TV markets from coast to coast the best HS players are going to follow those huge endorsement deals into the Big Ten because an endorsement deal is now going to be a nationwide deal. A USC commit is now going to have his NIL in the New York TV market, the OSU commit now will be able to get an endorsement that will be now in the huge LA TV market. Even the SEC cannot offer any commit that opportunity to build a national brand even before they go to the NFL. Show me the Money!!
And all that will amount to nothing as the SEC will continue to win the national championship every year lol your so delusional both USC and UCLA won’t win anything
The B1G have the 4 biggest media markets in America ( NY, LA, Chicago, Philly) The SEC should be talking with UNC, Duke, Virginia, VT like right now. If the B1G decides to get those 4 programs and Georgia Tech, they have initially locked up the southern markets, midwest markets and the Big 4 which the SEC will never surpass financially.
SEC & BIG10 will both be just fine…I only hope that within the next 5-10 years my Seminoles are playing in one of these conferences…at which time i will change my statement to explain how the other one is complete garbage lol
@@dreeco1762 The Metroplex is the No. 5 DMA/TV market (NYC/Newark, LA/Long Beach/Anaheim, Chicagoland and Philly are the top 4 TV markets in that order).
This all started over 10 years ago when the big 12 school was about to leave and go to the pac 12. But when Oklahoma and Texas coming to the SEC. The war has begun for power of conference. Now they have to go to a 12 or 16 team playoffs.
How is this gonna work? 2 super conferences? I’m a big 10 and SEC divided supporter already, but now i don’t see this a good move for college ball overall. It takes away from the power 5 war that happens every year. It wasn’t a guarantee Ohio state or Alabama would take it all! ACC has Clemson, FSU and Miami. Big12 had Texas and OK, pac12 had their teams. I liked the bragging rights with equal division of super schools and now that’s ruined.
The problem with the ACC is that, on average, each program makes roughly $50-$80M less EVERY YEAR than every school in the SEC (yes, Vanderbilt makes ~$80M MORE a year in FOOTBALL than Clemson)…and the BIG isn’t far behind the SEC (they get enough money to stay competitive)…so the ACC literally cannot afford to compete at the highest level anymore, certainly not now that we’re officially in the NIL era
B12 only had OU and UT was irrelevant since 2004 and has made 2 NY6 runs since 2004 and it’s only because OU has been in the playoffs. ACC only has Clemson making noise, if Clemson doesn’t perform the whole conference sucks that year.
@@seminoldschool7032 Yep. I actually think the Big Ten will have the highest average total earnings now with their new media deal. And if I'm not mistaken, they already were the most profitable conference. They are playing a different strategy by expanding into large media markets, despite not winning championships as much.
Cold weather? Have these guys not watched BIg Ten Games? The season ends in late November, it's perfect football weather. Sometimes, it's still too hot. You're lucky to get snow in January these days. The midwest is not Northern NY/Canada...
@@jakeMontejo3272Here in Philadelphia, I've seen temperatures hover near 90° in September and even mid 80's in October, but it's not the norm and I would never compare the overall climate (weather-wise) here, to where most of these guys are from. They may play a evening game in State College, Pa (in October) where the ambient air temperature is 65°, but a small wind makes it feel like lower 50's...how often does it reach 50-55° in Los Angeles? *Plus Happy Valley is surrounded by mountains and the wind is very body "unfriendly". The weather will make a difference.
@@derrick4544 valid. But. When you choose to be a pro, and you realize- you don’t choose where you want to work - should you get used to working in Green Bay, Chicago, Buffalo, Philly, (all the other Northern states) that are not apart of the SEC and never will be…choosing a college based on climate is not advantageous
@@jakeMontejo3272 Agreed, but if the schools recruit regionally then your scenario becomes reality by default. Does USC really come North to recruit...not really. If there is a player with national hype, then they, like every other P5 will throw their hat into the ring to try to land the prospect - the vast majority of their recruits are the best-of the-best regionally. They know that they can compete (athletically) because all of these kids attend national camps...where they compete against kids just like them. These camps however, don't operate in October, November, December, etc in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic States - but they do in the Southwest, Southeast and of course Western Pacific...where it is what: WARM.
Trojan fan, really like the move! Sexy matchups, like New Year's Day every weekend, and the atmospheres...oh yeah! I just love USC going all in like they should
That takes money. If they are out being out spent $125.00 (SEC BIG) to $40.00 (ACC) ; they are doomed. Superior head coaches and assistants will bolt for the money.
@@jobe8764 I'm an NC State and ACC fan. With that said I'm not confident about the future of the ACC. I've watched ACC games for over 50 years and the ACC was a master of TV all the way back to the early 1960's. With those midweek games in hoops and the doubleheaders on Saturdays. You're right , the world has changed I'm just hoping the ACC hangs on and it would be nice to see ESPN step in a pay the ACC a fair market rate. I live in the real world, ESPN is quietly sitting back and watching, most likely hoping the the ACC implodes and their plan unfolds to prefection. If the ACC breaks up. I'll sure miss it and like millions of other fans that will be watching a lot less college sports.
Coach Riley didn't go to LA to play in a tough conference, he could have stayed at UOK and gone to the SEC! Riley didn't want that, but it followed him anyway!
Here's my Crazy Talk Moment: Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame, & Navy to the ACC, Oregon & Washington to the B1G, FSU & V-Tech to SEC, and Arizona, Arizona St., Utah, & Colorado to the Big 12.
Clemson going to the B1G is a non-starter with the conference's presidents due to not being an AAU member. Clemson would be far more likely to land in the SEC once the ACC's grant of rights runs its course.
Why would the BIG want Clemson,...because they've had a half dozen good years in football? NC, Virginia or FSU & Miami would be better gets than the upstart football program, of Clemson.
There is no question that PAC 12 just took a major hit. They are basically at the same level as the Big 12 Now. Not Sure who the PAC 12 Blueblood now.. Oregon or Washington?
Sorry old man, USC was held back by themselves. Oregon has kept the conference alive the past few years. Hopefully Notre Dame joins the Big 10, with Oregon to follow.
Keyshawn knew it when he said it. He's just trolling. Wisconsin has more ten win seasons than USC in the past 10 years and more in the past 20 (which includes the Pete Carroll era).
I live in the Deep South and I really think the southern teams need to go up north and play, if you want to be the best you need to take on anyone anywhere. If Boise St wants you then to play them, if Michigan wants you then go play them.
i would think florida state and north carolina are more important acc programs than clemson. just because of markets. clemson is clearly the best football program, but these moves aren't made for the here and now; they're made with longer-range plans in mind
With how Arizona fans would treat the Los Angles teams, I'm glad for the LA schools. Money 'might' be a part of it but I choose to believe it's about the respect. And there's a BIG plus for the Big 10 teams . . . regularly visiting the West Coast. It's a very diverse continent we live on . . . deserts, mountains, plains, coastlines, tundra, forests. The Los Angeles area is moving well into cosmopolitan lifestyles that many youngsters can begin to assimilate into their thinking. I "choose" to believe that it's about wrapping this nation into a fine, fine quilt. That competitiveness is only a song and we can ALL look forward to going home after the game to domestic tranquility.
A Don James 8-3 UW Husky team can beat an undefeated Alabama in the Rose Bowl for the National Championship. I am a Don James student of Husky football. I will have all players from the state of Washington, I will have the best kicking game in all weather conditions in the nation. I saw that miracle kick against Cal. It is the highest mark of team play I have ever seen. My dad said, "You can beat that?" Dad, that was the best team play I have ever seen. Players carring injuried players off the field. The center directing traffic. The holder relaxed, with one second left, ball snapped perfectly, a quick spot, a good square kick, down the middle, 43 yards, UW went to the Rose Bowl. I am crafty and fun. Boise State v Oklahoma is the best college football game ever. Name a better entertaining game with both sides playing with their hearts. Oklahoma played with a lot of determination and heart.
Iowa playing at the Rose Bowl against UCLA in October or November could be 75% Hawkeyes fans. Few travel as well as Iowa fans. UCLA better get good fast
This is all the people who favor the SEC fault. Those rematch NC games and putting two teams in playoffs may have ruined college football. should have just expanded to were each power 5 conference champ got in plus 3
Playing in the cold weather argument is somewhat of a joke. The NCAA is not the NFL, most games are played in the fall when it's still warm - speaking as a lifelong Michigan resident.
@@PoshWalrus Ok, but even so, Clemson is in a conference with Miami, Florida State and Virginia Tech, all of which have either won or played in national championships. I live in ACC country so a comparison of Clemson to Gonzaga or the ACC to whatever conference Gonzaga is in doesn't fly. Ohio State and Alabama dominate their conferences also.
@@PoshWalrus It's a professional team. They all have access to draft and develop talent. Not the Patriot's fault that they are one of the better run organizations.
Finebaum proves once again that he knows nothing about any school outside of the SEC. Why in the world anyone wants to hear his opinion is beyond me. What a waste of 7:14.
I get it USC is the big name but how is the Pac 12 holding them back USC hadn't won the conference since 2017 & UCLA c'mon 1998 last I remember Utah & Oregon was smashing the conference
if we end up with 20+ teams in each conference then what they need to do is have no divisions and have a 4 team SEC/BIG10 playoff where the 4 best teams in big 10 play each other, and 4 best teams in SEC play each other, then once thats over with they have the national title game with the best team in the big 10 and best team in the SEC. so thats 3 rounds in total
And this is why the all the players should be classified as employees of the schools, just like a professor with benefits and everything that goes along with the job.
Paul finburn is such a joke. He was literally complaining about LA students having to travel across the country and how it would effect students. But never and I mean never once complain about bamas football team graduation rate. Which is terrible, like how much of a hypocrite can you be.?
Keyshawn's question regarding USC/UCLA playing in the cold weather in October and November, is no different from AFC west teams, LA Chargers and Vegas Raiders playing in Kansas City and Denver during those months. It is good exposure for those kids when they transition to the NFL. The professionalization of College Football is well underway. Long may it continue. My only gripe is the delight to which Paul Finebaum dismisses schools that will not be part of this new sporting era. What is the point of looking forward to change, yet ruthlessly castigate (insult) excluded lesser programs? His arrogant tone (southern hubris, imo) is grating.
Sub-zero wind chills will toughen their resolve...!
A yankee speaking about southern hubris is rich
you're uneducated it's actually embarrassing, AFC West teams are comprised of players from many different colleges/regions USC and UCLA are compromise 95% or more from California/SoCal high school student athletes, them playing in the cold definitely is a factor. do your research bro it's free
People act like it doesn’t snow in Utah, Colorado and Washington State
West coast kids are not used to playing 9am pacific time games. On Saturday morning.
Ucla does have one of the greatest basketball traditions in history so the Big 10 gets that too.
If UCLA figures out how to operate its football program, it should become a consistent and very solid B/B+ program that spends most of its time in the top 20-25. Soon, USC should be back as a consistent top 15 team, that frequently is in the top 10. Look for USC to be a legitimate national championship contender about once every three years. But both schools need to take action to improve themselves. They can't just sit around and wait for lightening to strike. Lots of potential at SC and UCLA.
Tradition doesn't win games or championships and it doesn't sell tickets.
@@marcusjones5287 They sell basketball tickets just fine. Championships? Ucla alone joining the Big10 DOUBLES the championship total for men's basketball.
Who in the Big Ten Comes Remotely Close To UCLA; Answer NO ONE
and the girls softball program at ucla is the number 1 juggernaut in the nation .
In other news, USC has announced it is moving its campus from Downtown Los Angeles to El Paso Texas to take advantage of State Incentives and lower housing costs for its staff and students.
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El Paso is a nice city. Would not be surprised if they used it as a stop to get the players ready for the time change
Stop. People in Texas think its so great. Sc not gonna trade sunshine and palm trees for. El paso
No thanks - I’ll take the palm trees and close vicinity to the beach in So Cal over anything in TX.
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Imagine if a half dozen years ago or so the PAC-12 DID get Texas & Oklahoma to join that conference. An opportunity lost… big time!
crazy what the CFB world would look like now had he Pac-12 been able to poach the Big XII before the SEC.
It didn't have the NIL deal back then. Half a dozen years ago, the SEC was going to be King of the Big Boys.
or got Nebraska too
Wisconsin last 10 seasons not counting weird 2020 season: 9, 10, 8, 13, 11, 10, 11 and 7-1 in bowl games. Put a little respect on our name!
More than a little. They’ve been second best team behind only OSU in B1G since 2015! Regardless of division! If there were no divisions for all those crying in eastern division wisc still would have played osu every year but one. 😆🤣
Living here in Wisconsin agree with you. But I’m not so excited about this season or next unless we get a better quarterback. Mertz is not gonna cut it.
You are 100% correct; Badgers are UNDERRATED! (Gophers Dad here + USC Alum)
@@billdoty6438 mertz is trash
Key about to find out. 6 of the top 20 defenses every year are in the big 10. Looking forward to a USC night game at Camp Randall in late October. Excited.
you’re about to find out about lincoln riley
1000% FACTS
@@shutup5407 come on up, I'll buy you a beer
Waiting for the big conference matchup - UCLA at Rutgers in the 9 a.m. time slot.
@@orangehoof 🤣 Good basketball games though
As a midwesterner, its weird seeing these 2 teams in the Big 10.
The NCAA made the Pac 10/Pac 12 irrelevant by first destroying Washington's football program, and then destroying USC's. In fact, Oregon's program got wrecked as well. It seems like whenever a west coast team does well, the NCAA swoops in and lays waste to the program. I have a hard time believing that west coast teams are the only ones who ever break the rules.
very true thye all brak them its big money alwys calling the shots. its not college for education or pride. its all about greed and fixed sports gambling and the tv corporations. sports is a joke
Punish USC, and the PAC-12 but turn a blind eye to eastern teams. Thanks, NCAA, you suck. IMO.
USC and UCLA TV market is all you need to know
It changes UCLA in no way…. They will still be 6-5….7-6
It's about media markets and money more than winning. I think the SEC will still dominate in football, but that's not what the BIG TEN seems to care about as much.
Half the teams in the B1G are far from powerhouses in football. IL, IA, Iowa State, Rutgers, Maryland, IU, MN and Northwestern don’t cause sleepless. If BTS for any opposing team.
@@theogeo14 Iowa st in Big 12
So nobody is bringing up the time zone differences. Also it’s not just about Clemson, what about Miami and Florida St?
As a Michigan fan I'm really happy for this. I really like USC and UCLA. These changes will be neat and exciting for college sports. Excited to see Texas and Oklahoma in the sec too. I live in Austin. Not a longhorns fan but it would be epic to see Texas versus bama in Austin 😃
If you say so.... but I think you've lost me..
What the point of calling them student athletes anymore if they are gonna miss 70% of classes with their travel schedule?
UCLA and USC are joining the Big 10. Paul Finebaum, what do you think?
Finebaum: Well, the SEC will still be the best...
Lol, yeah- Paul is entertaining but I never take anything he says seriously…I mean, the guy literally wrote a book about the SEC saying “my conference is better than your conference”. He is the epitome of a “homer”.
As long as Nick Sabin blah blah blah blah😂
I mean they have pretty much dominated college football since 2005. Clemson, Florida state, and Ohio State are the only non SEC teams to win the championship since then. Are they obnoxious? Yep. Is it earned? Absolutely!
@@littlerockdoc3183 What does Alabama have to do with the transfer of USC/UCLA to the big 10? This dickhead w/ glasses is not about college football as a whole. Duh!
Anyone who takes Paul Finebaum seriously should have their he'd examined. Finebaum is never wrong....because he changes his opinion weekly, and sometimes daily.
"No one else matters" Thanks Paul. What made College Football so popular? Fans and alum of ALL the schools enjoying the sport and hoping for a title at some point. Now..."No one else matters"
When the Los Angeles schools leave that is not only the end of the PAC-12, but it is the end of college athletics, with the subsidy model for Olympic sports and the student athlete concept in general. This is all about money, and green talks loud. The players are going to say, "we have full-time jobs while administrators have $ million dollar salaries. We have NIL, now we want more." So at the very least these football players will become semi-professionals, distinctly different than the rest of the student body. Good Bye to College Athletics.
Bye Bye cry baby 😭
Calm down bro.
100 spot on. I personally hope Colorado and Utah leave, and it;s back to the real old PAC 8! Just play football.
It’s not the end of the world bro get a grip 😂
You do realize this is great for the Olympic sports & other sports at USC/UCLA besides just football haha. UCLA & USC's Olympic sports are some of the best in the nation & they were in debt & this new deal with the BIG 10 is amazing for them and the athletes that aren't in major sports like football 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Can't wait to see usc/ucla in Columbus late November. Worth every penny.
Since the NCAA is pretty much being scrapped at this rate, I would love to see a European relegation system take its place. Like take one elite conference and attach a few of the others as secondary and tertiary leagues. Repeat that 2-3 times. Then you can take the top 2-3 teams from each of the top conferences and make up the CFB Playoffs.
Will probably never happen but would be AWESOME if it did
using euro football as a lens, I can see a Champions League and Europa League type of system, not a reg and promo system. Still, maybe the 2 super conferences (SEC big 10)have a champ and everyone else has one and perhaps they play a super cup championship?
Relegation will/can NOT happen. And frankly it is even stupid to bring it up.
A) how do you recruit? Players are there 2-5 years, not long term professional contracts.
B) how do you sell season tickets? At what prices? What donations?
Lol no, thats fine for soccer but not for college football.
The NFL will set up a minor league system where they draft and develop players from 18-24. NCAA football will be dead in 5 years. Football players don’t care about “eDucAtiOn”, they want money and an NFL career.
I am stlll shocked and excited about this move. The Pac12 was run very poorly. I still think the SEC gets a little bit too much respect and BigTen gets an "atah boy" from the country. BigTen has superior universities academically to the SEC; adding UCLA and USC has put the 2 of the Top 3 All Time National title winners in The Big Ten. UCLA = Massive Basketball power in best hoops conference. USC has been solid last few years, hoops wise. My USC should be interesting competitors with Coach Riley.
(U of Minnesota Dad and USC Alum here).
Assignment of rights keeps Clemson and Florida State from bolting currently.
Big 10 getting a huge football and basketball tradition with SC and UCLA.
lol what are you talking about neither of these teams made it past sweet sixteen. They all suck in football cause your going watch michigan and its one hit wonder season take a nose dive
Keyshawn was clueless mentioning Michigan State & Wisconsin. Its about brand value which are Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, & Nebraska.
What happen to Stanford, Oregon and Washington?
FSU Clemson and Miami need to go now
Big Ten has always been in the game Paul but of course he thinks the SEC is the only conference that exists
I feel like the main reason USC made this move is because their football team in particular hasn't been that good after the early 2000s run with Pete Carroll so they need the Big 10 affiliation for relevancy and profit...But when they were winning they were one of the most popular teams not just in college but in all of American sports and Reggie Bush was one of the most popular athletes in America...they didn't need an affiliation with anybody and I know there revenue was through the roof...this is along with being in the 2nd largest media market in the country...being a good player on those early USC teams was literally celebrity status and they had Snoop Dogg, one of the biggest celebrities in the world, as one of their biggest fans and promoters of the brand
I'm surprised usc wanted out. I didn't think the pac 12 was a bad conference. This came out of left field
ya dude I had just started following college 🏈 & got the Athlon magazine with Reggie Bush featured. Him & Leinart had to literally have bodyguards following em around campus!
theyre a los angeles failire
The time difference will hurt the two west coast teams as far as game preparation and being at full strength ready to go. The ncaa should’ve made 4 power conferences with the Pac12 and MWC for the west, Big10 for the North, SEC for the south and the ACC for the east. Of course it would be too much to add a whole conference to another like Pac12 and MWC or even the Big12 to the sec but they’d be able to figure out that split on who goes where and how the NCAA bracket would look come seasons end heading into a newly structured playoff system. But of course bowl games regardless of how insignificant they are amount to $$$
Pretty sure UCLA/USC won't be playing any noon game times unless they're home games and against the likes of NE, IA orMinnesota.
Also forget about student athletes, they’ll be missing all their classes with this travel schedule
The destruction of college sports - fans/students aren’t able to travel to away games. Sports that play multiple times in the week are going to have a logistical nightmare.
yep sports is becoming not appealing anymore to lot of people
This is a great chance for Wyoming, San Diego St., Boise State and even Utah State to apply for membership into the PAC 12.
No! No! No and No!
I think Colorado State would be a better fit. Boise State would only be accepted if the PAC lowers their academic standards.
oof. Wyoming? Utah State? Boy...that Pac-12 money is dwindling.
There's no chance Miami and FSU get left behind so I'd say ACC is safe
I agree there’s no chance FSU & Miami get left behind (there’s also no world we ever have or ever will live in whereby UNC is “a better pick” than the previously mentioned)…but I think the ACC is already dead, it just hasn’t become fully evident yet. There is ZERO chance however that the BIG or SEC looks around and says “you know what, let’s take this UNC team that’s been decent 3 times in its entire history instead of 2 of the most electric & dominant programs in CFB history…we don’t want to bother with the enormous, national, global fan base those 2 teams have…we’ll just take N. Carolina & make money off of its 26 fans”.
Paul has always had a VERY OPEN bIas & distain for UM/FSU, and he’s a windup artist…so I tend to take anything he says with an enormous heap of salt.
Even as an fsu fan who haaaaates Miami I have no problem whatsoever saying that they’re one of the most historically exciting programs in all of CFB…and what they’ve accomplished (and what they most definitely will accomplish in the future) is undeniable.
@@seminoldschool7032 They are talking about markets. The Charlotte/Raleigh market is 2.5 million viewers and in college football it dominated by UNC. The Miami/Fort Lauderdale market is 1.6 million and in college football it is shared by Miami Hurricanes, Florida Gators and FSU. Plus all the teams that the northern retirees follow. The Charlotte/Raleigh market is much more valuable to a football Confrence than Miami is.
@@3plecrown Charlotte and Raleigh are entirely different markets and the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area is bigger than each one of them.
@@marcus813 It’s about SEC CFB viewership with tv deals. UNC Football owns the Charlotte and Raleigh markets so you combine them. The Entire Florida markets already has an SEC team (UF) in that market. The UNC market is more valuable to the SEC than what little pull Miami football would have. You have to look at it as an SEC executive would.
This may help the push for an expanded cfp if you have nothing but big 10 and sec teams in it the next few years.
Big ten only has Ohio Stats and maybe Michigan running for a shot at cfp.
@@joseamaya4445 USC and PSU will also be there eventually. The Big Ten is about to become the highest revenue conference on top of already being one of the most profitable. That money will translate to titles eventually, along with the fact that all their schools have rich alumni networks to pay players.
@@scratchpenny UT and USC have very deep pockets, haven’t done much, but you are right, it should eventually translate but I am tired of hearing Texas is back for more than years to watch them go 5-7 with top 3 recruiting class along with USC 5-7 record with a top 10 recruiting class. I can see Penn State coming up eventually, but Michigan State and Wisconsin will probably just be consistent 9-3 win schools
@@joseamaya4445 Probably, right. Although, what's going to happen in the future, is that no team not in the premier conferences will be able to compete due to the nature of NIL deals. So even a lesser school in the Big Ten or SEC will still be a relatively top-tier talented team with a slight chance. But everyone else won't have any shot. That's somewhat true today but will be even more true in the future with the drastic difference in revenue for the top conferences. For example, USC and UCLA just doubled their yearly TV revenue by joining the Big Ten.
On another note, I don't think the Big Ten cares about winning as much as the SEC. They are operating with different strategies, IMO. The Big Ten seems to care more about revenue, prestige, media markets, and even academics than about winning. And this is paying off in a weird way, where they consistently earn more than almost every other conference.
@@joseamaya4445 Michigan State and Penn State also
The big ten was projected to get a billion a year before usc ucla which was on par with the sec
Means nothing with Texas in the SEC. Gotta win ona field. Nit get your azz kicked LIKE OSU AND MICHIGAN DID WHEN THEY PLAY THE SEC CHAMP
@@ke-wayLA6060 Lol, they're still going to get over a billion dollars for their tv deal so...
@@ke-wayLA6060 big ten just got better than SEC
@@alexnowicki286 no lmao look at the last 20 championships and tell me how many are sec winners
@@ke-wayLA6060 Only in the YT comments section does $100M mean nothing. SMDH.
I bet if that money was going to your bank account, it would mean something then.
As a Illinois fan that lives in LA I say thank you Santa!!! 🎅🏻🧑🏻🎄
Greed will destroy college football and sports.
Finebaum makes a very important point "As long as Nick Saban is at Alabama". But guess what? Saban is getting older. Once he leaves Alabama the SEC will come back down to Earth. Saban and Bama's success is THE reason the SEC is where it is. If you don't have Alabama winning titles every two or three years it opens things up greatly. And Saban forced teams to get better. Georgia is where Georgia is because Saban raised the standards. A&M, LSU, Auburn; all these teams were forced to get much much better. Without that incentive I think there is room for things to slip. Of course we'll only know what happens when Saban retires. But one thing that is for sure is that it'll be very interesting.
Guess you’ve just forgotten all about Kirby Smart at Georgia, the only thing that’s stopped him from winning multiple titles already is Saban at Bama.
@@williamwhitfield6225 Did you not read my whole comment? Literally nothing I said contradicts what you're saying.
@@Jon.A.Scholt Your talking about Bama carrying the SEC which it is not. When Saban steps down Kirby will take his place. The dominance of the SEC will continue with the other programs popping up to win titles like they’ve been doing. Last 3 years 3 different SEC teams have won titles, I agree with everything that else stated about Saban upping the competitive level in the league. But that has been established and won’t unravel when he leaves.
@@williamwhitfield6225 To say Kirby will take his place is also saying that he will equal the achievements of Saban which are unprecedented. You're comfortable with saying Kirby Smart will win 5 more titles? Or 6 if you count his at LSU? And also be runner up 3 other times? And all in the next 13 years? I admire your confidence but I think most would say that's not happening. But what you are I think doesn't matter much but it'll be fun to see what happens. College football is like the wild west now!
That's true, once Saban is retired the SEC will come down to earth. Look at what happened in the SEC when Bear Bryant retired from coaching Alabama.
As an Arizona state fan, I’ve always hated usc but just when I thought I couldn’t hate them more they completely fucked the pac 12. I find it ironic they move right after a very disappointing season. I hope the program declines because of this move.
You should have respected what they have traditionally brought to the table. Though they've been down they were still the Pac12 flagship football program. Instead, petty thinking like yours compelled the Pac12 to choose conference parity rather than national relevance. Well , now you don't have worry about it.Have all the mediocre parity you want.
@@remc11rm what? The conference will dissolve soon. I won’t have to worry about parity
@@scottrichardson3800 well, the haters can form their own conference.
@@remc11rm your argument is irrelevant. Usc has been inconsistent for years. This will set them back.
@@scottrichardson3800 well, the hiring of Lincoln Riley who's a proven winner will remedy the inconsistency. His recruiting is going very well. USC is aware of what they're getting into in the Big 10. Plus, they've got two years to replenish their talent level. They'll be fine
I'm a USC fan but I do hope to see UCLA improve and become a top team... 2nd to USC of course. Also hoping to get some of them cornfed boys on our line. Come on down to Sunny Southern California and still get to play your childhood team.
As a UCLA fan I hope USC becomes a top team in basketball too. But gonna be honest. Thinking Im not gonna hate sc as much anymore. Kind of look at it as USC /UCLA vs the big 10. I can't root for an Indiana or Wisconsin team over an LA team. Only LA team I would never root for are the clippers
All the advantages they have had and now you inject that kind of money? I can easily see UCLA being a consistent 8/9 win team at the very least similar to Wisconsin. That is if they get rid of Chip Kelly.
@@biozio186 travel will be a b for those California schools
@@gregpettis1113 same for the other teams as well.
lol big mistake
Not impressed with Finebaum and his immature bias
ESPN have been smoking crack again.
I’m from SoCal and it’s sad to see the Pac-10/Pac-12 conference end.
It's sad for me too.
This was a business decision, not a decision that had anything to do with the best interest of the students' academic achievement. Glad to see the facade of collegiate athletes not being real employees is fading away. It was never true, but now they're not trying to hide it.
College football as we know it is being destroyed by greed and hubris.
yep and this day was coming
I agree except for the hubris part.
No Paul, ND is already in the B1G. Its called hockey. Be better at your job.
There was some reporting from this morning that Oregon and Washington also applied to join the BIG10
ND was denied lol
@@cartersports1 I don't think ND was ever denied admission to the B1G. Some years back, ND was lukewarm about joining the B1G, and it did not come in. A lot has happened since then. ND, in my opinion, needs to now join a powerhouse conference, or end up playing Tulsa every week.
@@williammann2088 no...I meant and...when I put ND..Oregon n Washington was told 2 sit pat until notre dame made a decision 🤣🤣🤣
Big 10 needs to add Notre Dame and Washington then they will have the only truly national conference
If the B1G adds Notre Dame, I think the league would pick Stanford over Washington to keep the Stanford/Notre Dame football rivalry intact.
I still don't understand why the big guys keep Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Wake Forest, etc around. That's the next big change, pushing out all the academic schools that don't generate a lot of football and basketball revenue for the factories.
You need to do some research, Northwestern is one of the richest schools in the country.
That’s what i was thinking. Why not push out the smaller football programs and replace them with clemson, fsu, notre dame, etc.
Your logic is silly...what constitutes an "academic school" when talking about schools like Penn State, Purdue, Michigan?
I imagine the B1G ends up taking all the AAU Pac10 schools and the SEC will poach the best of the ACC. I see both conferences ending up in the neighbohood of 24 teams.
As a B1G fan. I really want to get UNC in.
I think that it's possible UNC and Duke join the big ten, maybe even Virginia and Virginia Tech, but the rest of the ACC would definitely join the SEC
@@kidcuidi1
UNC and Virginia are the targets in the ACC
@@penguinplayz3582 nah not happening North Carolina is in SEC territory plus the SEC already has South Carolina
@@kidcuidi1 not happening Virginia and Virginia Tech is what is most likely possible
What is he talking about before all of this. the talk was for 1.1 billion a year for the big 10 tv deal. Plus Ohio state is always 1# in tv viewship
Sick of Iowa getting disrespected by getting left out of all these comments (only mentioning Mich ,OSU, Wisc, Penn and MSU). Iowa is one of the top ten winningest programs in the last 7 years and easily top 25 in the history of college football. They absolutely took USC to the woodshed last time they played too
Yeah I'm interested to see how they try and set up divisions or what they do. I'm honestly losing a bit of passion for it overall. Paying students for the name and image is one thing. Giving a dude over 3 million to leave Pitt to join USC stuff like that. We will see where this is all at in a year or two but the trajectory it's on has a reckoning coming at some point
Iowa just dosent have that star name power, but whatever college football sucks now
That’s right Iowa clobbered SC in the holiday bowl a few years ago
Iowa is one of the worst academic schools in the B1G. Depending upon how everything comes down, Iowa could be left on the outside looking in.
Maybe Iowa goes to the Mountain West
Just a bunch of elitist jerks not caring for anyone who makes less money than them. And I'm mainly talking about Finebaum!
USC does not fill the stands either, does not compare to Michigan , Ohio St., Penn St., etc
Riley and Kelly better start getting bigger o-line and d-line players cuz 9 conference games against the b10 ain’t gonna go well with them right now
Especially in October / November mid western weather
@Who Dat OSU has some of the best O-line and D-line players in the country bro, only bad game they had was against Hutchinson. Also Minnesota had a bigger line last season than the Vikings, if USC thinks they can last an entire season against lines like that they’re smoking crack.
This is great for TV better game times
Clemson should have joined the SEC a long time ago.
Their speed always screamed SEC football
Cali teams goin to the midwest 😭😭😭😭 funny
SEC putting that pressure on us
they finna ger this work for many years 😈
Well yeah that's true, but also they got east coast teams in the Midwest too
Pennsylvania(Penn State),
Maryland(Un.Maryland),
& New Jersey(Rutgers)..
@@49ersrocketsrider2 yeah you right Maryland and Rutger are definitely equal to USC and UCLA in every way they both perform the same every year and suck
Don't sleep on UCLA, they'll now be able to retain SoCal recruits with all the prime time games. Go Bruins!!
Oh, UCLA will be JUST fine. I’m not a fan, not even a follower…but I’ve been a CFB fan my entire life (plus I’m old now sooo I’ve seen a lot lol) & I know that UCLA is perpetually ONE good move away from returning to elite status (just like Miami or FSU or UF or any blue blood program located in prime recruiting country)
Lol yeah Right!
…nice take
UCLA has always been able to recruit the problem is chip Kelly doesn’t want to.
NIL money is going to get insane in the Big Ten. The biggest TV markets from coast to coast the best HS players are going to follow those huge endorsement deals into the Big Ten because an endorsement deal is now going to be a nationwide deal. A USC commit is now going to have his NIL in the New York TV market, the OSU commit now will be able to get an endorsement that will be now in the huge LA TV market. Even the SEC cannot offer any commit that opportunity to build a national brand even before they go to the NFL. Show me the Money!!
I love how you just mention Ohio State when Michigan has the most NIL money in the B1G 🤣👍🏻
And all that will amount to nothing as the SEC will continue to win the national championship every year lol your so delusional both USC and UCLA won’t win anything
The B1G have the 4 biggest media markets in America ( NY, LA, Chicago, Philly) The SEC should be talking with UNC, Duke, Virginia, VT like right now. If the B1G decides to get those 4 programs and Georgia Tech, they have initially locked up the southern markets, midwest markets and the Big 4 which the SEC will never surpass financially.
@@AaronCaldwell. He never said anything about winning?
The disrespect my Bruins are getting 😤
Stay in your pac 12!!!
If you think Lincoln isn’t looking for a way out you are sorely mistaken
Let’s see how these Cali boys can handle some snow and a night game in Oct/November !!!! Can’t wait to see USC at the big house with 115,000.00!!!!
That’ll happen twice every 30 years with the size of the new conference lol
no different from AFC west teams
@@jeffreylboardsr2577 Stop equating professional players with 19-20 year olds who probably haven't been in many different weather situations...
Big Ten too OP owning the top 3 media locations of LA,Chicago,NYC big ten is playing the long game
SEC has Dallas they number 3 in media
Those are professional markets. Not CFB markets
Sec will be fine. Winning championships keeps the money down south
SEC & BIG10 will both be just fine…I only hope that within the next 5-10 years my Seminoles are playing in one of these conferences…at which time i will change my statement to explain how the other one is complete garbage lol
@@dreeco1762 The Metroplex is the No. 5 DMA/TV market (NYC/Newark, LA/Long Beach/Anaheim, Chicagoland and Philly are the top 4 TV markets in that order).
Football is a cold weather sport where I'm from.
This all started over 10 years ago when the big 12 school was about to leave and go to the pac 12. But when Oklahoma and Texas coming to the SEC. The war has begun for power of conference. Now they have to go to a 12 or 16 team playoffs.
16 team playoff would be great. It's way past due.
@@Buckeye_4_Life_ facts
How is this gonna work? 2 super conferences? I’m a big 10 and SEC divided supporter already, but now i don’t see this a good move for college ball overall. It takes away from the power 5 war that happens every year. It wasn’t a guarantee Ohio state or Alabama would take it all! ACC has Clemson, FSU and Miami. Big12 had Texas and OK, pac12 had their teams. I liked the bragging rights with equal division of super schools and now that’s ruined.
The problem with the ACC is that, on average, each program makes roughly $50-$80M less EVERY YEAR than every school in the SEC (yes, Vanderbilt makes ~$80M MORE a year in FOOTBALL than Clemson)…and the BIG isn’t far behind the SEC (they get enough money to stay competitive)…so the ACC literally cannot afford to compete at the highest level anymore, certainly not now that we’re officially in the NIL era
B12 only had OU and UT was irrelevant since 2004 and has made 2 NY6 runs since 2004 and it’s only because OU has been in the playoffs. ACC only has Clemson making noise, if Clemson doesn’t perform the whole conference sucks that year.
@@seminoldschool7032 Yep. I actually think the Big Ten will have the highest average total earnings now with their new media deal. And if I'm not mistaken, they already were the most profitable conference. They are playing a different strategy by expanding into large media markets, despite not winning championships as much.
@@seminoldschool7032 the big ten schools actually make more money than the SEC right now
@@sum1udontnoe149 - is that true? Huh, I had no idea…but that’s because my school’s in the ACC & we’re super poor lol
It would be Miami and Florida state. Clemson is building but they don’t have the prestige
Cold weather? Have these guys not watched BIg Ten Games? The season ends in late November, it's perfect football weather. Sometimes, it's still too hot. You're lucky to get snow in January these days. The midwest is not Northern NY/Canada...
Where do you live in the B1G territories?
@@derrick4544 NJ/NY. I’ve also lived in Chicago and Detroit.
@@jakeMontejo3272Here in Philadelphia, I've seen temperatures hover near 90° in September and even mid 80's in October, but it's not the norm and I would never compare the overall climate (weather-wise) here, to where most of these guys are from. They may play a evening game in State College, Pa (in October) where the ambient air temperature is 65°, but a small wind makes it feel like lower 50's...how often does it reach 50-55° in Los Angeles? *Plus Happy Valley is surrounded by mountains and the wind is very body "unfriendly". The weather will make a difference.
@@derrick4544 valid. But. When you choose to be a pro, and you realize- you don’t choose where you want to work - should you get used to working in Green Bay, Chicago, Buffalo, Philly, (all the other Northern states) that are not apart of the SEC and never will be…choosing a college based on climate is not advantageous
@@jakeMontejo3272 Agreed, but if the schools recruit regionally then your scenario becomes reality by default. Does USC really come North to recruit...not really. If there is a player with national hype, then they, like every other P5 will throw their hat into the ring to try to land the prospect - the vast majority of their recruits are the best-of the-best regionally. They know that they can compete (athletically) because all of these kids attend national camps...where they compete against kids just like them. These camps however, don't operate in October, November, December, etc in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic States - but they do in the Southwest, Southeast and of course Western Pacific...where it is what: WARM.
Trojan fan, really like the move! Sexy matchups, like New Year's Day every weekend, and the atmospheres...oh yeah! I just love USC going all in like they should
As a Michigan State fan, let’s create a rivalry - MSU vs USC: Battle of the Spartans and Trojans⚔️
Blah. It'll be exciting for a couple of seasons. But when it just becomes normal it will then become annoying.
The best way for the ACC to respond to conference expansion is to win!!!
That takes money. If they are out being out spent $125.00 (SEC BIG) to $40.00 (ACC) ; they are doomed. Superior head coaches and assistants will bolt for the money.
@@jobe8764 I'm an NC State and ACC fan. With that said I'm not confident about the future of the ACC. I've watched ACC games for over 50 years and the ACC was a master of TV all the way back to the early 1960's. With those midweek games in hoops and the doubleheaders on Saturdays. You're right , the world has changed I'm just hoping the ACC hangs on and it would be nice to see ESPN step in a pay the ACC a fair market rate.
I live in the real world, ESPN is quietly sitting back and watching, most likely hoping the the ACC implodes and their plan unfolds to prefection.
If the ACC breaks up. I'll sure miss it and like millions of other fans that will be watching a lot less college sports.
Coach Riley didn't go to LA to play in a tough conference, he could have stayed at UOK and gone to the SEC! Riley didn't want that, but it followed him anyway!
Lmao.....on my I can't wait.
@@jeffreylboardsr2577 Can you ask your son to explain what you mean in your post? Thanks.
He hasn't won at SC and everyone is putting him next to Pete Carroll. He better win or Riley, AD and Chancellor will be looking for a new job!
@@byronhector1339 Just stop dude. Your jealousy is showing. SC is simply a bigger blueblood. That is all.
Here's my Crazy Talk Moment: Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame, & Navy to the ACC, Oregon & Washington to the B1G, FSU & V-Tech to SEC, and Arizona, Arizona St., Utah, & Colorado to the Big 12.
You had me at FSU to SEC
Clemson would go to the SEC too, no way they’re staying
Did I miss something, when did the SEC teams generate more revenue than the B10?
Once UT and OU join they will
I’m hoping B10 can get ND, Oregon and Clemson even though Everyone is saying Clemson will go to SEC.
@AIPDogg we’ll see; I think ACC is done. There is gotta be a way out of this grant of rights contract until 2036.
Clemson going to the B1G is a non-starter with the conference's presidents due to not being an AAU member. Clemson would be far more likely to land in the SEC once the ACC's grant of rights runs its course.
Why would the BIG want Clemson,...because they've had a half dozen good years in football?
NC, Virginia or FSU & Miami would be better gets than the upstart football program, of Clemson.
Is Paul Finebaum related to Spock from star trek by any chance? The resemblance is just remarkable
There is no question that PAC 12 just took a major hit. They are basically at the same level as the Big 12 Now. Not Sure who the PAC 12 Blueblood now.. Oregon or Washington?
Actually Pac 10 will be better as you watch those idiot schools get their barndoor burnt
Sorry old man, USC was held back by themselves. Oregon has kept the conference alive the past few years. Hopefully Notre Dame joins the Big 10, with Oregon to follow.
B12 and Pac12 should merge the conferences at this point
Wisconsin's record is just as good if not better over the last two decades in a tougher conference
Keyshawn knew it when he said it. He's just trolling. Wisconsin has more ten win seasons than USC in the past 10 years and more in the past 20 (which includes the Pete Carroll era).
The Big-10??Texas/Oklahoma joined a REAL football conference.We all saw what the Big-10’s best(Michigan)Did last year against Georgia.
Come on up to the Big House, Shoe, Camp Randell or Happy Valley in January and we'll see how that shakes out.
I live in the Deep South and I really think the southern teams need to go up north and play, if you want to be the best you need to take on anyone anywhere. If Boise St wants you then to play them, if Michigan wants you then go play them.
i would think florida state and north carolina are more important acc programs than clemson. just because of markets. clemson is clearly the best football program, but these moves aren't made for the here and now; they're made with longer-range plans in mind
With how Arizona fans would treat the Los Angles teams, I'm glad for the LA schools. Money 'might' be a part of it but I choose to believe it's about the respect. And there's a BIG plus for the Big 10 teams . . . regularly visiting the West Coast. It's a very diverse continent we live on . . . deserts, mountains, plains, coastlines, tundra, forests. The Los Angeles area is moving well into cosmopolitan lifestyles that many youngsters can begin to assimilate into their thinking. I "choose" to believe that it's about wrapping this nation into a fine, fine quilt. That competitiveness is only a song and we can ALL look forward to going home after the game to domestic tranquility.
A Don James 8-3 UW Husky team can beat an undefeated Alabama in the Rose Bowl for the National Championship. I am a Don James student of Husky football. I will have all players from the state of Washington, I will have the best kicking game in all weather conditions in the nation. I saw that miracle kick against Cal. It is the highest mark of team play I have ever seen. My dad said, "You can beat that?" Dad, that was the best team play I have ever seen. Players carring injuried players off the field. The center directing traffic. The holder relaxed, with one second left, ball snapped perfectly, a quick spot, a good square kick, down the middle, 43 yards, UW went to the Rose Bowl. I am crafty and fun. Boise State v Oklahoma is the best college football game ever. Name a better entertaining game with both sides playing with their hearts. Oklahoma played with a lot of determination and heart.
Worst conference commissioner has to go to Kevin Warren
paul doesnt realize that ucla has a winning record vs the SEC in football
more ncaa national championships than any other school
I'm a Pac-12 guy but you can't claw back to fkn short shorts basketball 70 years ago on this thread bro . .
Now many football championships do UCLA have?
@@harrysurtees8710 there are zero ncaa FBS football championships, you casual
Iowa playing at the Rose Bowl against UCLA in October or November could be 75% Hawkeyes fans. Few travel as well as Iowa fans. UCLA better get good fast
The ACC has some basketball bluebloods!
This is all the people who favor the SEC fault. Those rematch NC games and putting two teams in playoffs may have ruined college football. should have just expanded to were each power 5 conference champ got in plus 3
It would be real nice if Fishhead moved to a 1bedroom in Florence,Co.
Playing in the cold weather argument is somewhat of a joke. The NCAA is not the NFL, most games are played in the fall when it's still warm - speaking as a lifelong Michigan resident.
Stop it...*Michigan" warm is not the same as "Southern California " warm.
Clemson is a little like Gonzaga basketball. Much better schools around them but in a conference they can dominate and prop themselves up.
Gonzaga doesn't have any national championships. Clemson has 3. Big difference.
@@ld4974 you missed my point completely. I was comparing the relationship with the conference not the actual schools themselves
@@PoshWalrus Ok, but even so, Clemson is in a conference with Miami, Florida State and Virginia Tech, all of which have either won or played in national championships. I live in ACC country so a comparison of Clemson to Gonzaga or the ACC to whatever conference Gonzaga is in doesn't fly. Ohio State and Alabama dominate their conferences also.
@@ld4974 how about the Patriots in the AFC East for years
@@PoshWalrus It's a professional team. They all have access to draft and develop talent. Not the Patriot's fault that they are one of the better run organizations.
Finebaum proves once again that he knows nothing about any school outside of the SEC. Why in the world anyone wants to hear his opinion is beyond me. What a waste of 7:14.
This is so great
Moving their academic standards up would be even more significant.
I get it USC is the big name but how is the Pac 12 holding them back USC hadn't won the conference since 2017 & UCLA c'mon 1998 last I remember Utah & Oregon was smashing the conference
Lincoln Riley had no idea that he'd be coaching in the Big10, sources say he's pissed,...let's see how long he stays at USC.
It’s killing me this destroys pac 12
USC in the horse shoe.. 730 night game… wow
if we end up with 20+ teams in each conference then what they need to do is have no divisions and have a 4 team SEC/BIG10 playoff where the 4 best teams in big 10 play each other, and 4 best teams in SEC play each other, then once thats over with they have the national title game with the best team in the big 10 and best team in the SEC. so thats 3 rounds in total
And this is why the all the players should be classified as employees of the schools, just like a professor with benefits and everything that goes along with the job.
Hopefully the SEC will add Oklahoma st, Texas Tech & Kansas.
Not happening.
I just can't see USC or UCLA playing, say Oregon or Washington State, e.g., in the Rose Bowl Game on New Year's Day. Just dosen't make sense.
Paul finburn is such a joke. He was literally complaining about LA students having to travel across the country and how it would effect students. But never and I mean never once complain about bamas football team graduation rate. Which is terrible, like how much of a hypocrite can you be.?
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