Are Islam and Evolution Compatible?
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- iera.org/islam-evolution-comp... - Biological evolution is a topic that is always on the table when it comes to any reasoned discussion about Islam at a university level. With that in mind, the Islamic Society (ISOC) at the London School of Economics (LSE) invited iERA to deliver a lecture about the compatibility of Islam and evolution. This was part of the LSE Discover Islam Week 2018.
iERA Outreach Specialist Subboor Ahmad spoke to a 50+ audience of mainly Muslim ISOC members from various disciplines across the university. His aim was to set the correct scene for them so that they will be prepared to answer questions from other students or answer the questions they themselves are asking on this important topic.
Subboor spoke at length about the misrepresentation of evolutionary biology by popular Atheist figures. He also spoke about the philosophy of science and biology. His engaging lecture also discussed epistemology, the theory of knowledge as well as important scientific issues that evolutionary biology is based upon.
The ‘aha’ moment came when the ISOC members understood that the science is not absolute and therefore not a problem for the Islamic discourse. They also walked away understanding that nothing in evolutionary biology disproves God.
Overall there was lots of positive engagement and lots of questions to clarify the concepts covered in the talk, with future engagements planned with the LSE ISOC.
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0:18 Julian Huxley and Religion without revelation
2:39 two types of Darwinian evolution
3:25 scientific theory
4:23 evolutionary humanism
5:18 dawinism as religion
5:54 un-scientific statements in popular books
9:00 neo-darwinism is an anglo-saxon religion
11:46 (natural) science is root of all knowlegde (counter examples)
16:16 (natural) science leads to absolute truth (counter examples)
19:09 observations != scientific theories
20:18 working theories aren't systematicly true
24:31 methodological naturalism
27:35 philosophical naturalism
29:03 assupmtions of methodological naturalism
34:14 summary
Thank you very much 👍🏼
This is what happens when u attend a madrasa instead of attending a regular school
@@user-nb5et2fr1n You really had to comment man?? If you must, then stop spitting out gibberish pls and stop embarassing yourself.
@@user-nb5et2fr1n madarasa is literally school in Arabic, and do you really think EVERY Muslim is a arab --__--
would be great. if we could see the slides as well
An amazing video, Mr. Suboor Ahmed!! May Allah (SWT) bless you with happiness, health and longevity. Ameen!
What a treat!!! Will watch this tonight!!!
Dawah Digital great work as usual by our brother although I must say I do find it frustrating that he and our Muslim brothers and sisters in general are not well aquatinted with the theory of intelligent design and I get the impression that they have fallen into the trap of being misled by Darwinist and atheist detractors who continue to DELIBERATELY misrepresent is as creationism which it is NOT rather than the strongly evidential based scientific theory that it is !
If I can recommend the following books which can prove immensely helpful in realising and learning that Blind and unguided neo DARWINIAN evolution is a secular institutionalised myth kept alive to prop up methodological and philosophical naturalism to avoid the obvious theistic implications and ‘ not allow
Divine foot in the door’ as Darwinian evolutionist Richard Lewontin has admitted ....
Signature in the cell
Darwins doubt
Icons of evolution
Zombie science
Discovering intelligent design
Undeniable - Douglas Axe
Heretic , one scientists journey from Darwin to Design
Darwins house of cards
Websites -
Evolution news
Discovery institute
Uncommon Descent
JoeMorreale1187 I’ll check those books out when I update my reading list. I’ve got a lot of books I need to make a start on lol
Dawah Digital 👍👌😊
JoeMorreale1187 Anything which points to a creator in science/scientific theory is rejected because of the assumption of naturalism in science. Anything which try’s to relate God to science is rejected as God is unobservable and science only deals with observations.
Shahsawar Mumtaz your not listening . Intelligent design deals with the observable evidence eg DIGITAL CODE SOFTWARE LIKE INFORMATION in cellular organisms and we know that code like information always come from intelligence .Who or what that Designer is ( natural or supernatural ) is not a scientific question and intelligent t design theory does not answer this question because it is rightfully left to the realm of other subjects .
But it is precisely bcse of it’s obvious theistic implications that Darwinist and atheist opponents vehemently reject it and don’t even give it a fair hearing and continue to misrepresent it as creationism instead of a valid scientific theory which it is .
Thank you guys so much!!! May Allah The Almighty bless you and reward you for your efforts!
love you in Allah akhi subboor. Alhamdullah for the blessing of islam
thank you so much for this video. i had questioned "isn't it possible for evolution to happen with Allah's permission?" for ages! and "isn't it possible that Allah made some things to evolve and made some other things at it is?"
Evolution is a demonstrable fact regardless of whether God exists or not. New species have evolved in your own lifetime.
@@JEA- You can make an exeption for humans if you want, but the scientific world of biology will not agree. Sorry, but we humans are not that special. We evolved just like the other animals. That is the view of science.
@@JEA- I agree off course that we are a lot more intelligent than other animals. But we are still subject to the laws of evolution. Animals living in groups usually are more smart, because there are many complex social aspects that can benefit you if you are smart. Buy the way, animals do communicate through sounds. And the can also help other animals, even from other species. Dolphins are known to protect whales who are attacked by sharks for example. And about incest, most animals tend not to engage in inbreeding. And animals do have social rules. I will send you a very funny video illustrating it.
@@JEA- ☝️ great points 😁
@@JEA- How can you make an exception for humans?We are also part of the chain. We evolved from ancient human like creatures like homo habilis and homo erectus. They were smart and able to make tools and when time passed they evolved, their brains got larger and we are the product of that chain.
Great Lecture
Where is the Q&A ?
*The Theory of "Intelligent Creative Re-evolution"*
Through the process : *_Requires TIME_** (Evolution)*
- Animals & Humans were created from water (QS 24:45, 25:54)
- Adam was created from clay (QS 15:26-28, 38:71)
- Humans were started to be created & grown from clay (QS 71:17, 55:14, 53:32, 40:67, 37:11, 35:22, 32:7, 30:20, 23:12, 22:5, 6:2)
- There is a process of beautifying (perfecting) creation (QS 32:7)
*Revolutions :*
- Humans were created from semen (QS 22:5, 32:8,28, 35:11, 40:67, 77:20)
- There is a process of refinement in the creation:
> After the creation is perfect, then the spirit (ruh) is breathed into *Adam* (QS 38:72, 15:29)
> After the creation is perfect, then the spirit (ruh is breathed into *humans* (QS 32:9)
- There is the creation of a new creature (QS 14:19, 35:16)
Jazak Allahu khayran 😍
Correction: Yuval Noah Harari is not an evolutionary biologist. He is a historian and philosopher so his statement is well within his discipline.
Hey bro. As a muslim,My mind is so confused about evolution. I was about to buy harari's book. But all main islamic scholars says evolution is Kufr. Can you help me about that? My english is not good enough to understand saboor brother. Harari's book is just a myth or truth?
@@emrerdem915 Search and see Hamza Andreas Tzortiz video in TH-cam about evolution or another science theory and its relation to Islam, brother. Science theory is based on evidence but maybe in some way the evidence is insufficient so it cannot be interpreted as simple as a "fact" or truth for us, that's the idea i got after i saw his video. So, if you wanna read a book, just read it. But the fact of the book is still have to be contemplated as well. Assalamualaikum.
@@alifmuhammad8350 aleykumselam brother. Okay i will check it out. I just finished Hamza's book named The Divine Reality. He mentioned about evolution in couple pages and make sense to me. Thanks
@@emrerdem915 As someone who's studying to become a scientist myself and as someone who comes from a Muslim background, I advise you to read on evolution for people who work on evolution - biologists, paleontologists, botanists, geneticists...etc. Ofc Muslim scholars will have opinions on it but it's important to also read for people who know what they're talking about. Cheers and Ramadan Kareem!
@@ayya514 so you mean there is no contradiction between evolution and islam? Just wondering
Correction: Theoretically you can test whether "your mom loves you" exactly doing what you said: by probing her brain. Now whether modern neuroscience at this point in time has the ample understanding of the connections between specific brain signals and emotional feelings is yet to be seen.
Maybe, but you will have to believe the doctors or scientist are telling the truth.
@@HasanKhan-iu7ge That is true. But it is easier to believe doctors and scientists because we can see that medicine and science work. If we didn't believe in the framework of medicine and/or science, we wouldn't be using all of their products (drugs, vaccines, flights, cars, telecommunication, the internet...etc)
Science can never show if a person loves you or not. That has to do with consciousness and experience which science can't seem to understand till this day.
search the word "affective neuroscience"
That was not the argument. The point was that you still believe that your mom loves you without actually testing it. i.e. Science is not the only source of truth.
Can you please translate in Urdu
Q&A PART PLEASE
this is where they really get exposed
@@Faiz9163 Dr Zakir Naik has till now exposed you so trying to avoid in commenting on his channel🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is there definite proof of organic evolution?
Professor H.H. Newman of Chicago university answers this question.
" Reluctant as he may be to admit it, honesty compels the
evolutionist to admit that there is no absolute proof of organic evoolution."
He writes :
The nature of the proof of organic evolution, then, is this: that using the concept of organic evolution , as a " working hypothesis, it has been possible to rationalize and render intellgible a vast array of observed phenomena, the real fact upon which evolution rests.
In other words, the working hypothesis works and is therefore acceptable as truth untill overthrown by a more workable hypothesis.
' Evolution, Genetics & Eugenetics ' p.8, 57
What do you think organic evolution is and how is it any different from what scientists would refer to as biological evolution?
Useless comment!?
Very careful misinterpretation of quotes, what science is, and is for, and where the boundaries between science, philosophy and theology lie.
No scientist would avoid any testable hypothesis about evolution, including creation. A (one of many) problem with creation is, how do you test for the supernatural? By definition it is outside of nature. There is a Nobel prize waiting for the person who comes up with the solution.
Brother Subhoor is a gem.
Dear iERA team members applauds for your hard work in propagation of islam...may Allah reward you all... With all due respect please clarify me on this, I heard that the majority’s opinion regarding Isbaal (wearing one’s clothes below the ankle) is forbidden..i have gone through most of the videos in this channel and almost all the iERA members in those videos wearing their clothes below the ankle including brother abdu raheem green, hamza tzortiz and subboor ahamed.... I have even watched a other video of abduraheem green in which he says the men should not lower their garments below the ankle....as a follower of islam and a follower of well known scholars like abdu raheem green, hamza tzortiz it confuses me....Please correct me if i am wrong....thank you
No you are absolutely right it is a sunnah (ordered by Prophet) and actually it is a symbol of pride as earlier kings wore long robes as a symbol of pride so islam forbade and you should follow it I do it myself but being a sunnah people take this issue lightly although Prophet was very strict regarding this issue
Sorry for my English it's not my mother tongue
The Newtonian model didn't work really well. It was/is apretty good good approximation, but led to issues with Mercury's orbit, which were known.
May ALLAH reward you for your amazing work!!!
This gets right into the reality of the situation
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Can you do a video about how Muslims should view the descent of adam to earth? If our souls are brought to the womb after 110 days like the hadith says “Each one of you is constituted in the womb of the mother for forty days, and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period, and then a piece of flesh for a similar period. Then God sends an angel who is ordered to write four things. He is ordered to write down his deeds, his livelihood, the date of his death, and whether he will be blessed or wretched. Then the soul is breathed into him…” (Sahih al-Bukhari: 3036
Then wouldn't that make our origin heavenly and we are partly are process from the earth partly a process directly from the divine realm?
Adam sent from heaven is a metaphor and he was the first prophet among us and not the first human. Cuz prophets come to guide existing people who had mostly turned away from God's way
@@fbh25. what?he was a prophet to his family and he was the first human
Very good, so far very well explained
Please change the video title to is Darwinian evolution compatible with Islam
Why
Asalamualikum... Can anyone tell me name of speaker?
Subhoor Ahmad
There's no contradiction in Islam if Adam is not the first man on earth, this contradiction only affect Christianity. Because they thought if Adam were not the First Man on earth there will be no Original Sin, and sacrifice of Jesus has no meaning at all, and therefore Jesus is not their savior, Jesus is no longer God who sacrifice his life for human's sin, and The fundamental belief in Christianity will collapse.
In Qur'an 2:30 it is clearly state that God only choose Adam as the First Khalifah (Successive Authority) on Earth, and it doesn't mean Adam is the first man on earth. It is also clearly state that the angels doubt about this creature to be the Khalifah on earth by saying "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood?". It is clearly said that the angels know this kind of creature's bad behavior. So the question is, how do they know? Did they argue with God only by giving their prediction that this kind of creature will doing bad things? of course not, they (the angels) must ever seen human before Adam doing the corruption and sheds blood!
And it is said (Bible and Qur'an) that the sons of Adam are the Farmer (Cain) and the Shepherd (Abel), therefore the Family of Adam must be no longer than Domestication Era (between 13,000 and 5,000 years ago). Then this would be contrary to the history if Adam is the first man on earth where humans had made paintings long before the era of domestication such as people who live in Chauvet cave, French 25,000 to 27,000 years ago.
You should learn your own religion 😂
What date ,approximately , did Gid make humans out of clay ?
Was it around 10,000 years ago or30,000 years ago or 100,000 years ?
If you do not know, then that's ok.
@Walter De wit where it's mentioned Eve is created from the rib of Adam?
Because before him were jinn on earth and they caused mischief and ruined a lot of things. So the angels after seeing that asked will God make something to ruin the earth etc. But this is because angels were made only to obey God and are not all knowing. If you look for videos on the creation of Adam or the creation of the earth and life of Adam then it should give u more info :) x
@Walter De wit we don't claim quran is stealing and copying. Basically the Israelites kept changing gods word and disobeying God, so he sent down jesus with the Bible, then the same happened so he sent down mohammed with the quran which is the true word never changed. If the Israelites didn't change the Bible then we would all be following jesus as our final prophet :). And because we all worship 1 God (Jews, Muslims, Christians) of course there are many similarities because it was all 1 book but those before the quran changed it around.
So I guess the usual basic question is. Does Theory of evolution compatible with the story of Prophet Adam A.S?
Yes. All deal with interpretation. In Qur'un a lot of aphorisms wich one is compatible with reality, do not explains accurately, but do not contradicts with reality. Like:
But no, by the place of the (departed) stars. Verily, this is a great oath, if you would only understand. (Surah "The Inevitable Event", 56:75-76)
When the stars disappear in the cover (fading). (Surah "The Sent Ones", 77: 8)
I swear by the sky and the star that walks in the night. How can I explain to you what a star walking in the night means? It is a star that pierces (darkness). (Surah "Taryk", 86:1-3)
The word "piercing" in the Arabic text of the ayat is described by the expression "essakibu", which comes from the Arabic root "saqb", meaning "creating a hole, piercing, passing through, piercing". It is noteworthy that in modern scientific sources, the English word "puncture" is used to refer to black holes, meaning "to form a hole, to pierce". Used to describe a black hole 14 centuries ago, it strikingly accurately describes the essence of the cosmic phenomenon, the existence of which became known to scientists only at the end of the 20th century.
@@mc2rub Thank you for your answer my brother. But what does this have to do with the compatibility between the theory of evolution and the story of prophet Adam A.S?
@@fathurrochman2469 we don't know when prophet Adam were lived, and moreover how did he look like. We only know that he was tought, high and strong.
Who supposed to be win"theory or facts of science that reveals evidence?"
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Newtonian models arent 'wrong', you can think of it like they are in a different language than einstein's model... while it is correct and is a law on its own, it cannot describe the whole picture because of the limitations of the language it speaks, einstein's theory didnt cause newton's model to be incorrect, just limited in its context and capability.
@Taimoor Abdullah
I think you omitted "didn't" as in "didn't cause"... "just limited in its"...
@@paulthomas281 thanks for the correction
Correct. Einstein never said that the Laws of motion formulated by Newton were wrong and Emmy Noether proved that conservation laws were products of the properties of the vacuum . AND NASA never used General relativity in the moon landings . We only need them for GPS satellites
If they are not compatible, whom would you chose?
Quran exactly and clearly states that the first human was created in the Heaven, not on Earth. Isn't this enough to answer this question?
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قُلْ سِيرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ فَانْظُرُوا كَيْفَ بَدَأَ الْخَلْقَ ۚ ثُمَّ اللَّهُ يُنْشِئُ النَّشْأَةَ الْآخِرَةَ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ .. Say: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation: for Allah has power over all things... The Holy Quran ..
I only see Muslims nodding to this video....... No offence🙏
Is it now possible to believe in islam and Evolution (we Share the same ancestors with apes)?
loved it
only reason i subscribed is brother subboor
Tell me how an entity could exist and have a consciousness when it has no mass, no energy and is outside of space and time.
simple take a nap and anything you experience is outside of the ether. im not trolling either, the human psyche experiences dreams differently while not interacting with anything like *consciousness(meaning your not conscious while you sleep), mass, energy, space and time.*
and to add more to it there is been many stories where people interact with the dead (in their dreams) and have revelations that end up happening later on, and scientifically there is no way you can prove that your dead loved one somehow showed you something that relates to reality... bc no one wants to believe that.
*HIGHER DIMENSIONS DO EXIST* but our inability to prove their existence turned into a denial
and to answer your question! if higher dimensions exist then it would be TOO clear that a creator is behind it thus turning ones faith into mere belief.
@@sarcasticidealist1309 Do you mean that God is a dream, a product of our brain cells, a product of our imagination ? It is exactly what modern science think it is: imaginary !
@@sarcasticidealist1309 Inability to prove existence is not denial. Our imagination has no limits. We need a METHOD to separate dreams from reality.
@@philipcoriolis6614 first our imagination *does* have a limit (try imagining a tesseract). second dreams have nothing to do with imagination but rather extradimensional entanglement as has been proven by the great arabic scholar Ibn Sireen in his book the interpretation of dreams(used it myself and it's damn trippy how he was able to relate almost any dream to reality). third it starts with faith then becomes belief there is no shortcut... in other words if you dont want to have faith in god you wont belief in him.
good day.
@@sarcasticidealist1309 I am actually imagining a tesseract right now...
Firstly I apologise to everyone who has listened to this utter claptrap.
I am a muslim and a scientist.
Sheikh Muhammad Metwali Al-Sha’raawi has stated, “I search the Quran only for my Islamic duties, not scientific facts.”
The holy Quran asks followers to “travel through the land and observe how he began creation” (Chapter 29 Sūrat l-ʿankabūt verse 20-29). So, Muslims are required to pursue a journey of understanding, a journey that cannot be begun by ignoring scientific evidence.
@The Moon Well you couldn't disprove The Theory of Evolution.
@The Moon Then... do it.
@The Moon Was the Moon split in two ?
@The Moon acquired ?
@The Moon Dividing the Moon would Have created havoc in the whole solar system and catastrophes on Earth with high mortality for humans and animals. Worse than the CHICSULUB event.
What's wrong with the evolution of physical changes from Darwin's theory if the Qur'an also very emphatically states that nature was created in 6 ages? (QS 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, 25:59, 32:4, 50:48, 57:4)
It is also firmly stated that there is a moment when the sky was in the form of "smoke" (QS 41:11), whereas there were no living creature.
Based on these arguments, it is very clear that there is an evolution of physical changes and the creation of various kinds of creatures along the processes.
If there is a revolution as physical changes of the cemen to human, then how difficult is it for Allah to make the creature changes that are even slower like evolution, including changes to humans?
In fact, it is explicitly stated in the Qur'an that the process of creating the universe is much greater than the creation of man (Qur'an 40:57).
This statement indicates that the process of human creation is not so special.
The problem with Darwin's Theory of Evolution was when he summed up the term "natural selection". Then it is concluded that "natural selection" is the result of:
- "Competition where the strong destroy/kill the weak"
- Lack of resistance capability of creatures to climate change & other environmental or natural changes.
In fact, the Darwin's book also mentions the existence of "cooperation" or "mutual help." However, then the nature of this "cooperation" seems to be ignored in the book.
On the other hand, there are actually adaptations of creatures to nature. It is clear that adaptation to this natural environmental change is more "cooperation" than "competition" or "resistance". Even if there is resistance from the body's cells against nature, what can happen is to make it stronger.
If what generally happened was natural selection with deadly competition, surely there would be no more weak creatures on this earth.
From this it can be seen that, Darwin interpreted the nature of natural selection by being influenced by the harsh nature of his environment, 4 seasons.
But in evolution, when a creature needs something, its body slowly gets that, but how does the atoms know that is the way to solve the problem? We as humans obviously can think and communicate, but do atoms communicate with each other and were so intelligent that they found the solution for the problem and gave this information for generations and changed the whole body? Did an atom in stomach tissue know its job and changed according to the needs of the whole body which consists of octillions of atoms? Because someone actually giving them a direction sounds much more logical than them not having a guide and thinking and evolving into what creatures are today, and not finding any creatures that went to another path and failed in achieving the required body system.
Natural selection is the guide
I can't tale this man serious he basically just said a section of science is a religion when no worship is going
Not all religions have worships , but for every religion there is a beliefs and that’s what he basically means
@@Ti_moode the definition of relgion is the beilef in and warship of a supernatural power espsally a persanal god this is what Google says please tell me a reilgon without warship
@@sfkr8755 lol, Are you serious? There’s many religions other than this silly “theory” this is some religions “Buddhism” and “Hinduism“ , “Jainism” there’s a lot. My Dear, religion is a flexible word that you can use as if you believe in anything you have not seen with your eyes, as if you believe in ideas that don’t prove tangible evidence of their existence.
Or practices, couple of beliefs, or belief in anything that includes nature or the origin of life, creation, and the beginning of the universe , btw if you continued the definition on Google and didn’t stop at what Oxford said, you would find that it’s a flexible word, scholars failing to agree on any one definition.
@@Ti_moode of course it is a flexible word allmost all words are flexible also I didn't give me an example of relgion with out warship bit hopeful we agree that relgion has to do with the supernatural
@@sfkr8755 I give you the names of the religions sweetheart
- Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism and Dr. Michael Ruse, from the Department of Philosophy at the University of Guelph in Ontario, is a philosopher of science, particularly of the evolutionary sciences. He is the author of several books on Darwinism and evolutionary theory, and, in an article in the National Post, he wrote:
Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion , a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality, “Evolution is a religion”. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.
Thank you 🌺
The answer is yes. They are compatible. But when it comes Adam and Eve it’s a gray area.
@BHAGWAN atheist Evolution driven by Allah.
Salam Alaikom, hope someone can answer my question: As a muslim, we should use science to learn how Allah created the world and the mechanisms by which Allah Is running the world, this will bring us closer to him. However, an atheist my respond by saying that how come Allah is only using a natural laws to create and/or run the world? where or when is Allah going to show us that he runs the world by immaterial things that can't be studied or described by a scientist? Finding a law behind every phenomena around us may argue against the divine presence because everything has a physical explanation. Hope brother Subboor or other brothers/sisters address this question.
أرجوكم ترجمة المحاضرة إلى العربية والتركية
Correction: Lynn Margulis did not reject evolution, she proposed symbiosis as a driving force for evolution as opposed to natural selection. While some of her work was rejected by other more convincing evidence, which is common in science, her theory of endosymbiosis was successful in explaining some findings in the realm of evolutionary biology.
She reje ted the neo dawarnist ideology...she rejects what neodawarnism believe...yes she agree with symbiosis.. but not the change of one species to another when there is no proof
@@os75 yes I'm aware of that. And that's the part of her work that was rejected by the science community.
The change of one species to another has been directly observed. It's called anagenesis.
But it's also true that when a new species evolves it doesn't have to be one species turning into another. It can happen via cladogenesis, a process by which one species becomes two with the new species being slightly different from the other. When cladogenesis does occur the first species hasn't changed into the second species because the first species is still there afterwards.
Anagenetic and cladogenetic speciation are both directly observable facts of nature.
You can Not be a Muslim, if you Not believe in Jesus (Peace be upon him) as One of our Prophet in Islam.
Question, Answer
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: Is Jesus the son of Mary.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who created Mary?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: Jesus is the begotten son.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who is his father?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Jesus is a servant of God.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did God have a beginning?
Christian: No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Is Jesus God?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Where's God?
Christian: In heaven.
Muslim: How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian: Only One God.
Muslim: Where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Muslim: Than how many are they in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Then how many seats?
Christian: One
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim: How are they seated on One Chair?
Christian: It's only understood by those with the Ghost. You Need the Ghost my friend.
Bible says :-
"... God is Not the author of Confusion ..." (New King James Version (NKJV) Corinthians 14:33)?
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I'm a Christian and while there is confusion in some branches, the thing that's hard to comprehend is that Jesus is fully God but came clothed in humanity. Fully God yet fully man because, He's God nothing is impossible but some Christians can't explain it in a way that doesn't lead to confusion. So i'll use your format:
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus is God, just like the Father and Holy Spirit (John 1:1)
Q: Is Jesus the son of Mary?
A: Yes Jesus, clothed in humanity, came into Earth as the son of Mary through the Holy Spirit. Again, a virgin birth is nothing impossible for God.
Q: Who created Mary?
A: Man was first created by God and through the biological laws implemented at Creation, Mary was born like everyone else. God gave her the breath of life.
Q: Who is God?
A: Refer to Q#1
Q: Jesus is the begotten Son.
A: Yes.
Q: Who is his father?
A: The Godhead is like a family because that's how they relate to each other especially since God the Father was His support while on earth and Jesus is our example, so God the Father was referred by Him as such.
Q: Jesus is a servant of God.
A: Well, Jesus referred to himself as the door to God, not necessarily a servant like you and I are servants of God because a servant of God should never be worshiped and Jesus was worshiped as God. That's why the Jews killed him. He kept saying "I and the Father are One."
Q: Whom did he worship?
A: Jesus did pray to God the Father, and went to Church to worship God, but remember these things: 1. He came to be a living example for us which is why He did all these things, 2. He was also fully man and had to put away His divinity for certain situations (like the period of his crucifixion) as i mentioned before God the Father and the Holy Spirit were his support system as He carried out the plan of salvation.
Q: Did God have a beginning.
A: No. God the Son existed always with the Father.
Q: Who was born on 25/Dec?
A: Jesus didn't come to earth on Dec. 25. That is paganism mixed with Christianity, it isn't Biblical based on when it was custom to take population censuses (which is why Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem). Jesus came as a human at a certain time, but Jesus as God always existed.
Q: is Jesus God?
A: yes.
Q: Where is God?
A: Heaven.
Q: How many God's are there in heaven.
A: There is one God, and this One Godhead has three Persons. Confusing? A little i know, but think of it as the God family. Just as the family is seen as one unit, the Godhead is one unit. That's why in Genesis you don't read "Let ME make man in my own image". Instead we read "Let US make man in OUR image." God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is God. They are One.
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: Technically, Jesus is in heaven ministering as our High Priest in the heavenly sanctuary. This mirrors the whole system which began with Moses and the Children of Israel, and now that the ultimate sacrifice which all this pointed has been made already the process of Salvation is being finished and the forgiveness of sins is done through Jesus. That's why we don't have to offer animal sacrifices anymore.
Q: How many are they in heaven?
A: All three Persons are in heaven but God is Omnipresent which is why the Holy Spirit can be here too.
Q: How many seats?
A: There is one throne.
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: At times Jesus is said in the Bible to be seated on the right hand of God, but there are also times when He is said to be seated on the Throne. So either God the Son or God the Father can be seated on the throne.
Q: How are they seated on one Chair?
A: Both can sit in the throne, both are worthy of worship, and praise and honor. If you read the Book of Revelation, it's basically a prophecy of how everyone will be bowed in reverent worship to Jesus because He is God.
So yes, this can be a confusing topic but once you understand that God can refer to the Three Persons of the Trinity working as One like a family unit it becomes easier. Like the human body--it has many parts and organs but it makes up ONE PERSON.
@@greatminds1017 don't. Have. Common sense. There is. Only. Only. One god. And Jesus his messenger(prophet) he. Is simple. Man. Just. Like. Us but. Has. Status of prophet. Given. By god
I think. Don't. Be rude plzzz. In. Christian they. Have. Misunderstand. All things. Not by. Themselves. By the works. Of Satan. Plzzz. You. Think sometime. Plzzz. Search. About Islam your. Every. Confusion. Will be. Vanished. I swear. In the. Name of. Allah (swt)
@@Rubelahmed-uq9vo Jesus was the fulfillment of Prophecy. He wasn't just another prophet like Isaiah or John the Baptist. The Apostles worshiped Jesus because He is God veiled as a human. That's why He is called Emmanuel which translates as "God with us." The disciples baptized in the name of the Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit.
Subbhor is making a fool of himself as usual. So many misunderstandings...
Can you tell us few?
Alhamdulillah!!
This is amazing! More people need to see this
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Please Suboor Bhai
Should probably get a few things right about evolution before you answer this question
Yr. Mujy kuch smj nhi aa raha sb kuch ghom gya👀
Kia samjh nahi aya?
1:40 evolutionary humanism
27:00 naturalism is presupposed
Even in Newton's time he knew he couldn't predict the obit of mercury, he also didn't believe in the force between two large bodies was some kind of cosmic string, and he actually said there was no way he could discover this and would be for future generations to discover the reason for gravity.
I find this entire lecture mere sophistry, by trying to belittle an entire scientific book because the author gave an opinion about the existence of God, that's fatuous, is the science good are the conclusions falsifiable
Evolution is a 'theory', as yet half-cooked. Islam is our religion, our belief. Why do we have to weigh Islam on basis of something which is still work in progress ?
where is the proof that islam is the truth?
Islam dont give any proof at all, why should we belive that whats written in a book is the truth?
@@BeybabaEfendi have u read the book , i.e the Quran. Only then u will understand the truth.Pls Try 🙂
@@bilalmj1833 have u listen to science? Have you listen the proof? Iam only convicable by proofs and logical assumptions. Not because a book says something.
You should try to argue instead of saying something like: "read the quaran and see the thruth". Thats just a lazy way to understand our environment.
@Huthaifa B AlWattar (2024) "because that book not only tells the future" if a book says, someday the earth will be crushed, is that a mystical power behind that book? Or just a reasonable assumption?
People 1400 years ago had the quran and knew all about embryology because the quran tells us about it.
Thats just wrong. The part of embryology especially is wrong (i.e. muscles before bones) You can just make with huge interpretation such thing "mystical".
Why didnt the muslim ppl publish key biology books? If the quran did say something that is only newly discovered why werent there any scientific books by muslims before that?
It is and always be like this -> Science learn something new, some religious ppl interpret something old so in order to be able to keep up with science.
"there are so many miracles inside it if you would just take a look." Where exatcly is the a miracle? Or do u mean the miracles in the told stories, if so, you can read lord of the rings aswell, it has miracles too.
You should now realize that it order to be convincing you need to give proof.
Religion dont even answer the "why", just look at this simple question.
If god is almighty and all powerfull, why does he need to create humans in order to serve him? Thats just unlogical common sense.
Then it goes beyond that -> if he is all knowing why he need to test me in the life? He knows where i will land in the end (Hell/Paradise).
And it goes beyond -> If i can do only things with his permission then everything bad i did, was with his permission. And therefore i should be punished? Thats unlgical in many ways.
So Religion doesn't answer the "Whys".
"science cannot solve everything" It solved everything we can see so far. What did religion solve until now?
"Science is ever changing. religion stays the same." And thats the biggest point in knowing sciene.
Religions are outdated, they deliver no proof, no new knowledge at all.
its just a collection of their wisdom from the 900 century mixed in the arabic culture and believe. I.g. Djinns, Kaaba Stone and so on, most of these thing were before mohammed there.
@Huthaifa B AlWattar (2024) "iron is in the exact middle" you realize that the order, in which the sura`s are ordered in the Quran is different than how theses sura`s came to earth right? As i said, you can interpret what ever you want with the right intrepretation.
"the quran tells us what we need to know" No it doesn't, it says what u must think, not what u need to know.
We as humans need to know, how to solve climate change, how to make energy more efficient, how to make nuclear fusion and so on.
These are things, we need to know.
Not that some guy in the past could heal someone with unproven mystic powers, which randomly occured in a time, where no cams were invented.
If god wanted the people to know that he existed, he would shown us many detailed scientific proofs. In a observable way, independent from in what you Believe or where you are.
Like a formel for the creation of the universe itself or on how we could build spaceship, which can speed more then light speed. These would be "godly" fact. If a civilization could all predict these thing in the 900 century, that would be an inevitable proof for gods existence.
Its like a birdcage, you cant ask risk questions or you can get thrown away from islam. It doenst support the idea about searching in meanings for the nature itself.
WHY did god do all these things is the most fundamental question of all here. But Islam has no answer to that. It doesn't even think you like that.
I searched these "miracales" and it really isnt different from the bibles one or the torah or any other major religion.
Making mathematical peculiarities so that the book itself is "godly" isnt a new thing. Especially in the Arabian region, where they took the indian math systems and developed it further.
8:13 this was enough for me to close this video. People please read the books this guy has stated instead of simply listening to him quoting out of context. It is very hypocritical because when non Muslims do the same thing everyone gets butthurt that they are stating out of context. Hypocrisy ki bhee seema hoti hai.
Lorsque Dieu a informé ses Anges de la création d’Adam et de sa succession sur terre, ils ont dit : « Veux-Tu établir un être qui commette des désordres et répande le sang …? ».( ) (Là, je suppose que les Anges ont vu un Homme avant Adam qui a transgressé sur terre et qui a répandu du sang). D’après les versets coraniques, je croie qu’il existait un être avant Adam. Coran 2 vs 17 Dieu dit : « Ils ressemblent à celui qui a allumé du feu chaque fois qu’il illumine l’entourage, Dieu leur ôte leur lumière ». A mon avis, Dieu leur ôte le soleil et les laisses dans les ténèbres, ils ne sauraient voir. (Depuis la création d’Adam le soleil n’a jamais été ôté). Coran 2 vs 18 Dieu dit : « Sourds, muets et aveugles, ils ne peuvent plus revenir ». (Je suppose que Dieu parle de l’homme qui a précédé Adam et qu’il ne lui a pas enseigné comme Adam. Ils ne peuvent plus revenir le Jour Dernier (Dieu le sait). Pour tous les descendants d’Adam, Dieu dit : « Nous sommes à Dieu, et nous retournerons à Lui ». Dans un autre verset Dieu dit : « La foudre a failli les aveugler chaque fois qu’elle brille ils avancèrent et chaque fois elle verse l’obscurité sur eux, ils s’arrêtèrent. Si Dieu voulait, il leur ôterait la vue et l’ouie, car Il est tout-puissant ». ( ) Ce verset nous montre que la lumière, que Dieu a ôtée à ses êtres, est bien le soleil.
Voici quelques versets coraniques :
06. Dieu le Très Haut dit : « O Hommes ! Adorez votre Seigneur celui qui vous a créés vous et ceux qui vous ont précédés, Craignez-moi ». (Coran 2 vs 21) Dieu le Très Haut dit : « Ton Seigneur est riche, plein de pitié ; s’Il voulait, Il vous ferait disparaître et vous remplacerait par tels autres peuples qu’Il voudrait, de même qu’Il vous a fait sortir des générations passées ». (Coran 6 vs 133). Dieu le Très Haut dit : « Nous avons créé l’Homme dans les plus admirables proportions». (Coran 95 vs 4). (Par rapport à qui ?). Dieu dit : « Vous connaissez la première création, pourquoi ne réfléchissez-vous pas ?». (Coran 56 vs 62). Dieu le Très Haut dit : « Nous honorâmes les enfants d’Adam. Nous les portâmes sur la terre et les mers, Nous leur donnâmes pour nourriture des aliments délicieux et Nous leur accordâmes une grande supériorité sur un grand nombre d’êtres que Nous avons créés ». Coran 17 vs 70. Et pourquoi Dieu le Très Haut a dit : « Il vivifie la terre naguère morte ».
Julian and Aldous Huxley are brothers!
The theory is based on the harsh process of Survival for the fittest, random mutations, no guidance no intelligence, how can a theory like that be compatible with the Islamic teachings on creation and the true perspective on life? Wake up and be a true a Muslim and don’t make these theories affect your Iman.. Thank you.
Indeed. ISlam is obsolete
I believe he made it abundantly clear that any scientific theory must be based strictly on "pure naturalistic causes"..
By your logic if I say "thank God for giving me a child" and an Athiest replies "you did it yourself mate when you banged your wife"... then this child of mine was either magically created by God or it happened naturally... one and the other are in complete contradiction.
I wonder how islam got so popular when you have people like this representing it. Like I don't understand how anyone can make arguments as bad as these islamic youtube channels. Its especially bad seeing as they present themselves as these great intellectuals and scholars and yet their points are worse than a primary schooler's.
Thank u very much for exposing the logical fallacy of new Athiest around the world. May ALLAH give u more knowledge . InshAllah
Write In Sha Allah all three separately, instead of what you have written because according to some scholars if written together it could mean something which could be associated with shirk
@PinkGuy BlazeItOn420 It is associating partners with God. Only God has the right to be worshipped and he is the most unique.... Noone is like him...
@@asifzafar9175 Yes god is watching you closely through a microscope
Ugh , it's too cringey . Blech 🤮🤮
@@nabeelm358 Allah sees all. Do not force your subjective opinions on us.
@@Cartouchai Allah watches me is as much true as zeus or thor or the flying spaghetti monster is watching me. The belief in islam is subjective too , clearly. Stop shitting your subjective opinions on islam here too then .
Mashallah ❤️❤️❤️👍 may Allah bless you brother ❤️
MashaAllah TabarakAllah
The speaker is confusing experimental for scientific, experimental is one important approach of sceince but there are many other approches less defined and more probabilistic!
QS. Yasin [36] verse 82, Allah created everything by saying that events originate from events. QS An-Nur [24] Verse 45, Allah created animals from water and then they become creeps, walk on feet, and so on. QS. Ar Rahman[55] verse 14, human creation is like making pottery. The process of making pottery goes through changes in shape gradually over time.
Extremely hard to tell whether this is a joke or not.
This is just opinion. Nothing scientific to back up anything he's saying. He's obviously biased. Says alot about what others say but nothing of substance. Nothing logical just dribble. Confusing actually.
Better hope so for Islam's sake.
This is not the wei
It's not clear what his point is. Is he trying to pitch religion against science? Is he trying to suggest Darwinianism is being promoted as an alternative religion? What is promoting as an alternative? Islam? That god made man from clay?
No it is not clay allah swot says in Quran
That we made humans from clay from a modified black mud not a normal one
Stop promoting your ideology and western life
Yeah first prove to me that 0+0=1, and then atheists actually laugh at the majority of believers of the world.
@BHAGWAN atheist please learn how to spell
@BHAGWAN atheist no it’s never different for anything. You are deluded to think something can come from nothing.. even the atheists father Krauss refers to nothing as something, stop lying to yourself and trying to act like an intellectual, whereas the only people you are fooling is yourself.
@@mohammedrehman8103 you don't know what atheists belive in. You don't know if they belive there was something or nothing before the big bang. Atheist just means you don't belive in God. Also somehow you make fun of people that belive there was nothing before the big bang as something can't come from nothing you claim.. but somehow it is totally logical that God came from nothing.
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Masha Allah
There are a lot of similarities between different creatures on earth because we all had the same creator.
New species have evolved in your own lifetime. Did God create them too?
@@chimpanzeethat3802 you mean 'Genetic drift'? I mean i don't think a debatable concept of science existed at the time of dinosaurs and even now with enough knowledge of science I would still love to believe that this is all Gods Doing , humans are the most superior creations of God with intelligence which surely animals dont have hence they question Gods abilities or worse existence
No, not genetic drift, although that is an evolutionary mechanism along with gene flow, the different types of mutations, natural selection, and a change of allele frequency in populations over generations.
New species evolve via speciation events. We've seen new species of plants, bacteria, insects, birds, rodents and fish in our own lifetimes.
There's nothing stopping you from believing that God is what makes it all possible. That's your prerogative.
well we do believe in all of these theories as we believe in religion, there's no reason to contradict these back in the times evolution was solely based on fossils and morphological evidences but now we have come to better understanding via genetics that all species arise from a DNA sequence and i was reading a study which showed that cytochrome C in a human or a Primate or a bacteria etc is actually the same there are changes that arise for adaptability to the environment that the organism goes through which explains that we all are a part of this evolution , the Quran itself teaches us how human beings developed via various stages of embryonic development and all stages are different from eachother, two things we cant agree with is that one that these changes of evolution take place without the presence of a creator , these aren't purely natural processes secondly we believe in the orthodox principal that Adam and Jesus were created without fathers (miraculously) , then again science and religion (Islam) may at times contradict eachother which to us believers isnt so because we follow the word of God first, Science is only proving the word of God about the world of God . we believe that the Quran is based on absolute truth and that science changes overtime i.e the theories . I've had this conversation with my Agnostic friends as well so agree to disagree :)
Don't make the mistake of thinking that a scientific theory is the same as a theory in the colloquial sense of the word. They're two different things.
What you might call a theory in everyday language is closer to a hypothesis in scientific terms. A hypothesis is an educated guess, one that can be tested and potentially falsified. If something has been demonstrated to be factual then it stops being a hypothesis and is elevated to the level of a scientific theory.
A scientific theory is the explanation for a particular subject that has already been effectively proven logically and mathematically. Nothing gets elevated from a hypothesis to a theory unless it has already been confirmed to be accurate.
The subject matter of a scientific theory is fact, the scientific theory explains why. For example:
Gravity is a fact. There are four laws of gravity. The Theory of Gravity explains why gravity is a fact.
Germs are a fact. The Germ Theory of Disease explains why germs are a fact.
Oxygen is a fact. The Theory of Oxygen explains why oxygen is a fact.
Theory is the highest level that something can attain in science, even higher than law.
A scientific theory doesn't suddenly stop being a theory and become fact, because all scientific theories are already built on a body of facts. And a scientific theory doesn't suddenly stop being a theory and become a scientific law, because all scientific theories already include laws.
I can understand why someone would be hesitant to accept a hypothesis but to reject a scientific theory is completely nonsensical. It's like saying that you don't believe in light because the Theory of Light is "just a theory."
Evolution is actually mentioned in the Qur'an is some incredible details. God (Allah) says "Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were joined together and We clove them asunder? And We made everything alive from water". Except for Adam. He says "And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth)". (God is so powerful that when He talks He says "We"). He dignified us above animals and gave us intellect, emotions, ethics and morals. He made the earth habitable for us, and brought us forth just exactly when we had to, our only purpose in life is; -To worship Him alone with absolutely no partners.
So when was man first created ?
Some Christian creationists put it around 6000 years ago
What do you think.
Islam scholars seem shy to answer the question.
@@iainrae6159 What benifit will you or Muslims have from such an answer. Do you think that when scientists give a figure when earth was created or the universe was it is an exact figure. Of course not. It matters not for a Muslim when this happened but how or why it happened. Why do you cling on to trivialities and turn a blind eye and not reflect on questions that matter. What is your argument anyway?
@@rihabkamaldeen5958
The approximate age of the earth is around 5 billion years old which is interesting to know.
Surely someone can give an approximate time,within say 5,000 years of the first humans created by God. Surely this is an interesting question for us.
@@iainrae6159 I don't think we know exactly. We do know that humans were the last thing created on earth after the animals, plants, and space and all planets and all living things, angels, jin, devil's etc. Then the last thing was Adam and eve. But maybe a Google search will tell u exactly. I haven't googled when exactly but i know humans were gods final creation after everything else :)
@@iainrae6159 no islam dont answer that because it is irrelevant as Quran is not a book of science but a book of signs so there is no record about the exact time of creation of adam in Islamic history but science is the field to answer that you should do some google search
Evolution is a fact.
It's absolutely not a fact. Even Dawkins say that we haven't seen it happen and we only rely on evidence from the past. Which means it's not a fact.
@@grimreaper8834 it's a fact, there's no debate
@@grimreaper8834. Dawkins says it's a fact and that denying it is like denying the heliocentric model.
Evolution is no problem dear Muslims or non-Muslims, Do not waste your time and read this. Google it if you want. The Qur’an verses as follows 31:10, 36:36, 42:11, 43:12, 71:14, 71:17. That’s it.
lol evolution doesn't mean work with the belief of islam
Adam came down from heaven ...he was made of dirt amd his female was created from his rib
This fairy tale has nothing to do with evolution
@@DADA_._ 100% agreed. I almost absolutely said same thing. Evolution is no problem for Islam and you added some points which are valid.
As for Adam and His female, it should be included in Origin of The Species and again Islam stays still.
@@DADA_._ how are you can be so sure understand that a man was created from dirt literally. And heaven is not just a sky.
@@DADA_._ Show a cellphone to a person of 19th century and it will surely be a fairy tale come true. What...? Talk to person from the other side of the world face to face without actually going there? yeah right.
Science is humble about it’s limits, it does not arrogantly“believe”.
@Imbesat Muslims claim to be not limited in their knowledge but can't substantiate it. Claiming to know things that the rest of us don't doesn't make you better. You are just asserting. Scientific methodology gives us tools to be as certain about things as we possibly can. Claiming to be able to know things more than that is just that: merely claim, void of substance
@@jangohemmes352 well said
@@jangohemmes352 First Princeples say otherwise. Everything is about reasoning first. Science can't answer the "why" only the "how". So why do people use science as a tool to answer these "why" questions. That is being irrational and unreasonable. Philosophy > Science
@@1ce2berg I agree with you mostly. My point is that Muslims claiming to know the answer to 'Why' are merely asserting, without substantiation. Science can't answer 'Why', but Islam can't either
@@jangohemmes352 hang on..
So you literally said
Islam can't explain why either
Did you studies islam properly, objective, and detail as you as possibly can?
Evolution: The first humans represented mild mutations from their nonhuman parents
Islam: Allah created Adam using his two hands (Quran 38:75).
There is no reconciliation here. We have modern science clashing with backward religion.
There is nothing backward about the religion.
@@thewitcherking937 The prophet of this religion OWNED SLAVES. That is as "backward" as one can get.
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا ومولانا محمد عبدك ورسولك النبي الأمي وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم
I didn't know that Erwin was a muslim!
Good analytical study
i want to be a teacher and biology including evolution here in germany is going to be a subjecr of mine. can someone give me an advice how to make it halal?
so when i make clear to the students that all these theories could be proven wrong by tomorrow and are not irrevocable it would be halal?
@Azmain Nisak oh right i also do think so because we are born almost without many diseases (because of science and later because Allah wanted us so). Science is its own competition with its own rules that needs to be clear.
I would advice you not to become a biology teacher. Biology is not halal.
@@Robert-vm8vw tell me why
@@Fanboy1222 You cannot twist your teaching of biology so that it fits within your religious framework. You have to teach the scientific consensus and forget about your own opinions.
Evolution is real and proof is everywhere
he never said it's not true, if you watch full video, you will get the idea
yeah. According to your religion not by Science.
This comment section is pure gold. Never saw so many low IQ speaking to each other.
Can any Islamic scholar inform me the approx date Allah created Adam and eve, the first humans according to religious teaching, thankyou.
For example is it 6000 years ago, 30,000 years ago , 90, 000 years?
If unable to give an answer then thats fine.
By the way, not believing in a personal supernatural prayer answering diety, is Not a religion.
Quran doesn't specify the timeline about Adam's creation.
Quran being a book of guidance and not science is silent on this question there is no specific answer in either Quran /Hadith although after the prophet PBUH passed away some muslim scholars of old did try to infer from Christians and Jewish sources and come up with 6000 years but as their decision is not binding on Muslims in contrary to proven observations Muslims do not believe on a specific number today and we say we don't know. As to your second statement I cannot comment, the double negative has me confused and English is not my first language so I don't really understand your point , if you can elaborate please?
no one knows allah knows
Ali Munir Farooqui yeah true it is a book of guidance but there are scientific points in there. Also one of the things that made me convinced of islam is that how can an illiterate man( prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) make a book with the most perfect arabic in it.
Adam and Eve did not exist. They're just characters in a story. Two individuals don't possess enough genetic variety to be able to generate a population without incurring a genetic bottleneck. Each generation would be more unhealthy than the last, they would be doomed to extinction.
I would like to say that science without religion, still the world now stay the same and maybe better in certain aspects of humanity, but a world without science, only with a religion, is a complet different world, it means, a world where human live max 35-40 years, everyday is an absolute fight to survive for everyone, still there in the jungle predators can catch us and eat us and we don't have exept basic little weapons to defend ourslef , and praying dont gonna save you, if you break your legg in the middle of the jungle, if you got injured in the middle of the jungle, you're life is almost over , if you're wife get pregnant, without science, she has 50% chance to die, and such examples like that , there is a lot , so my own conclusion, is that the benefits of science are truly visible everyday for humanity, but religion have only a spiritual benefit for the brain of human's, but for me that is only the illusion of satisfaction, religion is for me an archaic protection mechanism our brain developped to fight our fears and anxiety, excessively high to human's, because of a high consciousness 😉
More compatible than Islam with UK
Adam Smythe ?
@S Uddin Go back to your dar al Islam you hate UK so much
@S Uddin like the Ottoman Empire I guess
@S Uddin anti working class stereotypes, nice. OK Lord snooty. Something wrong with brick laying?
I’ve never heard this many fallacies in 1 video
Haha... No. Not at all
You can't have the cake and eat it too
For real
Some great science being created at the moment in muslim countries. They are leading the world in sciences as you can see?
Acha ji, konsa maal fooktey ho?
No man aha Muslim countries are not the most scientificly countries aha
Muslims in there golden age there were the most scientific discovery
But unfortunately at this moment no
@@Hello-vz1md ancient greeks too and now its the poorest country in EU
@@pedrocastillo977 yes Everyone time come In one moment In the top civilization N then Corruption came n Go back to Nothing
Theist: How do you explain inanimate to animate, how do you explain consciousness???
Evolutionists: But, but, did you see these old bones bro....
Wow thats is so dumb
@PARTH Asha let me rephrase it for you... how can a bunch of atoms (not conscious) form you (conscious)?
...and please dont babble like you've been doing all over the comment section, go and do some research on that question and then answer it :)
And this is why the Islamic world is leading in the field of scientific contributions and inventions.... not
Science was the muslims' field while Europe was in the dark ages.
Kind of hard to 'lead in scientific contributions' while being bombed into oblivion by the West.
Yes its amazing, although Islamic scholars seem shy of estimating when God first made humans.
Some Christian creationists put it around 6000 years ago.
What do you think?
@@iainrae6159 do not be an idiot.. Universe is 13.4 billion years old... Solar system 4.5 billion... genetic Adam 200k years and genetic Eve 300k years..
@@muathjamal5143 yeah... blame the west... fact is muslims killed many more muslims than west have done.
It's no coincidence that the most developed and advanced countries in the world are also the least religious. Go figure.
@Lindu Huntermost scientists? Who? Newton may be religious but personal beliefs has nothing to do with whether something is true or not, ie Newton didn't provide us with any proofs like he did with his famous theories on gravity.But the most famous of them all ,Einstein ,definitely is not religious, this is what he said on the subject in the now famous letter which was auctioned off at Christie's in NY for $2.89m......
“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Thats not true.
This is a spray of nonsense and nonscience that is not worth the time it takes to listen to 😮
خدائی ارتقا کہنا جہالت کی بات ہے
قرآن نے تخلیق اور بدع کے الفاظ استعمال کیا ہے ۔
ارتقا ایک سائنسی اصطلاح ہے اور اس کا ایک مخصوص معنی و مفہوم ہے ۔ اسی کے مطابق گفتگو کرنی چاہیے ۔ ادھر ادھر کی غیر متعلق باتیں کرکے مسلم عوام کو کنفیوژ اور ان کا ایمان خراب نہیں کرنا چاہیے ۔
اصطلاحی اعتبار سے نظریہ ارتقا کا قران مین کوئی ذکر نہین ہے ۔ اللہ جل شانہ نے قران کریم مین ابداع اور خلق کا الفاظ استعمال کیا ہے ۔ اللہ نے خلق آدم کے بارے میں تفصیل سے ذکر کیا جس کا نظریہ ارتقا سے کوئی تعلق نہیں ہے ۔ انجنیئر صاحب کا بیان گمراہ کن ہے ۔ خدائی ارتقا لغو بات ہے
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد مرحوم آدم علیہ السلام کی پیدائش اصطلاحی مفہوم میں نظریہ ارتقا کے مطابق ہی مانتے ہیں جو بالکل غلط ہے ۔
نظریہ ارتقا کا اصطلاحی مفہوم یہ ہے کہ انسان طبعی اور قدرتی طور پر ایک بیکٹیریا سے سے ارتقا کرکے ایک خلیہ والے جانور Protozoa کی شکل اختیار کرلی ۔ ان ابتدائی بالکل سادہ قسموں سے دھیرے دھیرے زیادہ خلیوں والے اور پیچیدہ جانوروں میں عمل ارتقا کے ذریعہ مختلف شکلیں اختیار کرتا ہوا Ape کی شکل اختیار
کرلیا ۔ اس کے بعد انسانی شکل و صورت اور جسم کے مشابہ قد و قامت اختیار کرلیا جس کی مخلتف شکلوں مین انسان سے پہلے نینڈر تھل انسانی گروپ ہے جس کا زمانہ ساڑھے چار لاکھ سال پہلے کا ہے ۔
اس کے بعد سب سے ترقی یافتہ شکل جدید انسان(Homo Sapiens) کی شکل و صورت میں ڈیڑھ دو لاکھ سال پہلے ظاہر ہوا ۔ اس طویل ترین عمل ارتقا سے پیدا ہونے کا قران کریم میں کوئی ذکر نہیں ہے ۔
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد مرحوم کی تحریر سے معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ وہ آدم علیہ السلام کی پیدائش اسی اصطلاحی عمل ارتقا سے مانتے تھے ۔
ڈاکٹر صاحب لکھتے ہیں کہ : " سلسلہ تنزلات کا مرحلہ ثانی عالم امر سے عالم خلق کی جانب تنزل کی پہلی منزل ہے اور یہ وہ مرحلہ ہے جس تک ایک مبہم اور مجمل رسائی جدید علم طبیعات کو بھی حاصل ہوچکی ہے ۔
یعنی یہ کہ اس عالم مادی کا آغاز اب سے
لگ بھگ پندرہ سے بیس ارب سال قبل BIG BANG سے ہوا "۔
" بہر حال اس کے بعد سفر ارتقا کی دوسری منزل یعنی حیاتیاتی ارتقا کا طویل عمل شروع ہوا ، جس کے ضمن میں یہ امر تو اب پوری دنیا میں متفق علیہ ہے کہ اولاد حیات ارضی کی نہایت حقیر اور سادہ صورتیں ظہور میں آئیں ---- اور پھر وقتا فوقتا درجہ بدرجہ کمتر سے برتر ، اور کہ تر سے بہتر صورتیں وجود میں آتی چلی گئیں ۔
یہ نظریہ ابتک غير ثابت شده اور صرف ایک مفروضہ ہی کے ۔ ہے اور اسے ثابت بھی
نہیں کیا جاسکتا ہے کیونکہ اس کا تعلق انتہائی قدیم تاریخ تاریخ سے ہے ۔
اس کو ایک علمی حقیقت ثابت کرنے کی تمام کوششیں اب تک ناکام ہوچکی ہیں لیکن مال و زر ، میڈیا کی طاقت اور شیطانی پروپیگنڈہ کے ذریعہ عالم انسانیت کو گمراہ کرنے کا گندہ اور نجس عمل اٹھارویں صدی کے آغاز سے جاری ہے ۔
DR.MOHAMMAD LAEEQUE NADVI
Ph.D. (Arabic Lit.) M.A. Arabic Lit.+Islamic Studies)
Directorr
Amena Institute of Islamic Studies
& Analysis
A Global & Universal Institute,
1) If Allha is unlimited than how come
it is limited to heaven. Even a single atom out of god will limit the
god. Mind cannot understand infinity so it imagined a limited god in
heaven as object. And than mind gave all the mind attributes like allha
gets angry, allah gets happy, allha loves pedophiles, etc. 2) Where was the
word allah before the language was invented by humans 3) If a religious
muslim due to accident or disease, forgets everything, than he should
go to hell according to your islam as he is no more muslim
now. So your religion is memory based. Classroom type religion where you
are imagine of sin and sinner. 4) allah kills people but leaves satan so
that you simple minded fools can keep following stupid stories because
if imagined satan is killed by imagined god, than story ends. 5)
Imagined allah gave you free will but will punish you for using free will. Please do not remove my replies below. Just like you do not discuss bad part of hadees so you want to remove good part of my replies below.
1he is not limited to heaven, he's omnipresent
Allha isn't God
ALLAH doesn't love pedophiles.
2There was language before mankind
3 Allah understands the hardship, so he will most likely be forgiven unless he completely rejects Islam
4 Allah gave us and takse us, we're in debt, once we die that debt is over. Satan is there to test you, Satan is condemned to hell
5 So does America + he punishes you for not using that free will for the good
Allah is not in heaven. Allah is above heaven and all of his creations.
God is more than infinity you idiot
@@yeuedaka4754 hahah. He is limited and you need to know the meaning of infinite. Brainwashed slaves believes in old stories.