Treasure planet could work perfect as a hub world for the "looking for sora" part. A world where Kairi, riku, Donald and goofy are guided as a way to Open Gates to different worlds
@@ignacioperez5479...I think Unreality is a bit harder to reach. After all, in the trailer, their side goes to Hades. Maybe they need "Sinbad", or something. Oh ! And Riku already crossed over in "Melody of Memory". It's only Kairi who's missing in taking the leap (I wished Riku had been chosen to be her field master, SO MUCH).
Every time someone brings up Sora getting a Keyblade glider they always try forcing him into using a hoverboard like Ventus or Roxas would have, but I genuinely think he would have something more like a HoverCycle or a jet ski to help differentiate him from the two of them. For example, while Terra had a more Chopper like design to his keyblade glider Sora could go or something more like a jet ski instead.
@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon see, someone actually gets it. I prefer it when Sora isn't a carbon copy of Ventus when it comes to mini of his abilities as I prefer Sora as a well-rounded Ace keyblade wielder.
@@zachbahamutson5477 that is the whole point of his arc after all. Perhaps his initial power may have come from him. But as the adventure went on, his strength and habilities became his own, independent of the habilities of Xion, Roxas and Ventus, until he's become himself. He wants to be worthy of the trust he received from the Keyblade and everyone else he knows. After all, the series made a point of showing he is a mere islander. He lacks whatever sixth sense the other Wielders possess. That doesn't mean he's worthless, though.
Perhaps, it is time for Kingdom Hearts IV to allow a world (a realm) of Treasure Planet to make an appearance in its map of locations and I would love to have the cameo appearances of The cast of Final Fantasy XII and the original trilogy of Star Wars to make an appearance.
Missed the emotional part too that align Sora with "Greed" linking in with the 7 sins he's about to go against. The map can be a portal that gets him home, and he resists it to help the other characters get back safe. Showing why we love Sora and give Sora a "Resist temptation" development at this point. The reflection of Riku's jealously and power greed/greed for escape from the islands can link into your "how did Sora think about that moment."
After the recent Treasure Planet exposure coming from Lorcana (new cards have come out) and for years I've always pictured Jim and Sora actually becoming friends given to Jim's story. Lately there's been some new Treasure planet merchandise like a Morph pin in a blind box so is it keeping my hopes going for a Treasure planet world in KH4 after the exposure of the movie lately? Yes. Yes it is. Treasure Planet is my favorite movie of all time, next to Tarzan I'm sorry I'm just rambling- but thinking during the gameplay Jim helps out with you in combat or Captain amelia helps out OR maybe both? Also with the keyblade glider, maybe as a minigame we collect things or run through rings/obstacles in homage of Jim going through his solar surfer? It could be a good idea and be fun to play with!
Actually Martin short voices Ben in the film! However the late great Robin Williams voiced Fender in the Blue Sky movie 'Robots' which I highly recommed! @@ZX-Gear
@@invadertorithmva9358you know a storyline I wished was adapted into "KH 4" ? "Knights of the Old Republic 2". "Legends Star Wars" has much more material fitting Sora's story than fake "Canon". Now, with the vent out of the way, what if to access "Star Wars", Sora first needs to access "Planet Treasure" ? Maybe the "Galaxy far far away" refers to an area of Unreality that doesn't properly reflect Quadratum as an alternative, so it could need special requirements to be accessed.
Treasure planet would be sick! A real keyblade glider would fit the aesthetic for sure! I’m still hoping for an incredibles world personally, I would go crazy for that 🙏🏾
I’m pretty sure we’ll get a Moana world. Since we’re out of *good* PotC movies, it fills our Ocean World Criteria. Also the plot of Moana and Te Kā as a boss fight just… feel very Kingdom Hearts. Edit: If I have to pick between Moana and Treasure Planet… Treasure Planet.
@@Star-eg3qtmy personal take, is that "Planet Treasure" will be a Sora world, while "Moana" will be a Kairi world meant to prepare her to cross over to Unreality.
@@williamherron5382my personal take, is that "Planet Treasure" will be a Sora world, while "Moana" will be a Kairi world meant to prepare her to cross over to Unreality.
I love treasure planet! Extremely underrated movie I think. It’s amazing how the main villain of the movie, John Silver, redeemed himself at the end but still died at the end of the movie regardless. It’s a very interesting parallel overall.
As do I. With Sora growing up, they should start adapting the more mature movies, WITHOUT cutting the heavy parts, like they did with "POTC". I would also love Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio to be included somehow.
As much as I am hoping Treasure Planet gets reworked into a future installment, I still think the best place for it would have been in BBS, which I hear it was cut from. Here's how I think it could have gone: Ventus would stop by first, while Jim is still at the diner from the beginning of the movie. Jim would see the way he rides his keyblade and compare it to solar surfers. They could bond over watching other people get to go travel about while they feel left behind, with Jim's dad having left him as a child and seeing all the people who pass through the inn. Next would be Aqua while Jim is on the ship. She'd be around for the storm when Mr Arrow's rope was cut, and Jim dealing with feeling responsible for someone having been lost. This would foreshadow the way Aqua will feel regarding Terra's and Ventus' fates, but also herself being lost to the realm of darkness like Mr Arrow being lost to space. Finally Terra would arrive when the ship made it to the Treasure Planet. He would probably get roped into helping the crew find the map or something. This part might touch on how Jim trusted Silver and ended up feeling betrayed, mirroring Terra and Xehanort.
@@jacobholly2096 I hope they can make it to "Shreck". Show some curses are blessings might be the first step in reminding Sora (since apparently Roxas and Naminé being born from Darkness wasn't enough) that Darkness can be good.
@@jacobholly2096 btw, there's a fic called "Sea-Change of Fate" that took the "Shreck" route with Beast's curse. He, Belle and 4 more of the Princesses of Heart share it now. Be sure to read it. It's one of the best fic series I've red thus far. The branch starts when Kairi decides she'll be by the side of Sora and Riku in their adventures.
Treasure Planet would be an excellent world! Just the aesthetics alone already match the somewhat modern futuristic vibe of Quadratum. I do wish we could see world that delve into Strelitzia's psyche, something that challenges her morality or perhaps an experience that helps her grow as a character and a friend to Sora. Quadratum would kinda be that, but if there is a world that could work with her and Sora as a duo, I would love it!
The characters from the movies sadly only get those in fanfics, such as "Sea-Change of Fate", in which Kairi accompanying Sora results in all Princesses getting access to Keyblades of their own, based after the Keyblade of Hearts.
I think the reason that our characters go to this world is the codex to get to Sora or for Sora to get back to his friends since it is said the portal can go anywhere. This could make it a trend where the disney worlds have a more clear cut reason for being there other than character development. I think Sora could learn from Jims journey if we think he is going there. I can see a version of kh4 where sora learns from the Master of Masters in this new world and get blindsided by MoM until the seed of doubt is planted from watching Jim and Silver. Also integrating darkness and heartless seem efforlessly, the heartless could have an unique spawning animation where they show from portals and that is the reason why the Warriors of Light ummm I mean the Guardians of Light need to deal with it. I think TP could serve as a wonderful mid point, turning point or end game depending on how you want to use it and what story lines you want to focus on, think of it like KH4s version of Hollow Bastion from KH1. The more I think about it the less I think it will be a hub world since that has pretty much always either not existed or been an original world.
1:56 I doubt the Master has any real hability for genuine affection at this point. Besides, I want Sora to find his way. Not jump from a bunch of self-absorbed puppeteers to a narcisistic one.
Since we already have Star Wars as a world (Not confirmed but very likely) I don't see them doing a second Space like world...that being said, Treasure Planet is a SOOOOOO much better pick for a world than Star Wars. The fact that they were gonna do a TP world and couldn't continue it makes me feel like that would definitely want to give it another shot.
@@RedFlashdrive "Star Wars" makes a point of saying it's set in a galaxy far far away, perhaps even in the distant past. What if to reach it, Sora needs to first access "Planet Treasure", as it is more likely Quadratum's counterpart in Unreality ? That's how the worlds usually work in "KH". They're pocket dimensions reflecting each other to an extent.
One more thing, Sora needs a new book to get himself immersed in after outgrowing "Winnie the Pooh". Since "Star Wars" is told as a past story, do you think that could be it ?
There are a lot of great worlds that would fit right in, Atlantis, CoCo, Black Cauldron, Encanto, the worlds you covered, and so many more But the one world I want to see more than goddamn any of them Is Ferngully _I KNOW what_ you’re thinking, “Orion, that’s a _Fox_ property, not a _Disney_ property!” and yeah, that’s true But guess who _owns_ that property? That’s right it’s _Disney_ baby, yeeAAAHH! Think about it, Ferngully is Legacy content, it’s ripe for integration into the KH lore, and the whole world just perfectly fits the KH theme as is We’re gonna need new VA’s for multiple characters, but damnit it would work *_SOOO WELL_* /Rant over
Quick question. "Winnie the Pooh" was a literal book Sora immersed himself in the literal sense. So, what other story could work as a more mature book for him to get immersed in ? "Star Wars" is told almost like a tale.
i'm sure it is probably an issue discussed, but Treasure Planet has the same problem as a "world" like DEATH STAR or STARKILLER BASE would have where... it is not a location that lasts long. Not very helpful for backtracking or post-game exploration, unless a whole new game flow structure occurs in the series. (or some Quadratum-based time displacement) an obvious solution is to have the party adventure around before the 3rd act end of the film and the credits show the big earth-shattering kaboom!! i could imagine the space port Crescentia having much more fleshed levels, letting Sora fetch different parts for the RLS Legacy like a puzzle for Artificial Gravity or racing to earn Solar Sails.
One HYPER FANFIC idea i've cooked up for KH4 (and beyond) would be having the different Worlds we usually see orbiting eachother... be the same Connected Systems. Star Wars can have GALAXY'S EDGE as an obvious nod. Outer Rim, Core Worlds and UNKNOWN REGION. Marvel could start off with KNOWHERE for the Guardians, and then lead into AVENGERS TOWER. Treasure Planet could pull the same voyage, with the same Legacy questline continuing DURING TRAVEL BETWEEN WORLDS. Not only would this upscale be thematically synchronistic with the stakes being raised, but a late-game victory lap could have Sora FINALLY fly between Twilight Town, Traverse Town AND Destiny Islands!! (if only, it's a dream my heart makes...)
If they didn't do it in KH3, I don't think they'll do it KH4. KH3 was a lot more homogeneous in the style of Disney worlds they explored. Nearly all Pixar and Disney 3D worlds. Don't get me wrong, we finally got Toy Story... but at what cost?
@@KRJayster did you ever read the fic "Sea-Change of Fate" ? Among the major changes that come from the Princesses of Heart getting Keyblades thanks to Kairi, there's the fact Belle and Kairi expand the curse. Now, 5 of the 7 Princesses share it. Belle is one of those 5, her features meant to reflect her beloved's.
Treasure planet could work perfect as a hub world for the "looking for sora" part. A world where Kairi, riku, Donald and goofy are guided as a way to Open Gates to different worlds
@@ignacioperez5479...I think Unreality is a bit harder to reach. After all, in the trailer, their side goes to Hades. Maybe they need "Sinbad", or something.
Oh ! And Riku already crossed over in "Melody of Memory". It's only Kairi who's missing in taking the leap (I wished Riku had been chosen to be her field master, SO MUCH).
Every time someone brings up Sora getting a Keyblade glider they always try forcing him into using a hoverboard like Ventus or Roxas would have, but I genuinely think he would have something more like a HoverCycle or a jet ski to help differentiate him from the two of them. For example, while Terra had a more Chopper like design to his keyblade glider Sora could go or something more like a jet ski instead.
And it would be a nice homage to his home, Destiny Islands.
@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon see, someone actually gets it. I prefer it when Sora isn't a carbon copy of Ventus when it comes to mini of his abilities as I prefer Sora as a well-rounded Ace keyblade wielder.
@@zachbahamutson5477 that is the whole point of his arc after all. Perhaps his initial power may have come from him. But as the adventure went on, his strength and habilities became his own, independent of the habilities of Xion, Roxas and Ventus, until he's become himself.
He wants to be worthy of the trust he received from the Keyblade and everyone else he knows. After all, the series made a point of showing he is a mere islander. He lacks whatever sixth sense the other Wielders possess. That doesn't mean he's worthless, though.
Yes. Atlantis as an extended Gummi Ship level and Black Cauldron to redeem that film.
I would LOVE to see some Atlantis in KH. It's one of my fave Disney post-Lion King films.
@kukochan Tell me about it. I want some underrated Disney Films to make the cut
@@ZX-Gearsame here, it would be so awesome to see happen and I hope it does
One of the top most deserving worlds for Kingdom Hearts
Perhaps, it is time for Kingdom Hearts IV to allow a world (a realm) of Treasure Planet to make an appearance in its map of locations and I would love to have the cameo appearances of The cast of Final Fantasy XII and the original trilogy of Star Wars to make an appearance.
Missed the emotional part too that align Sora with "Greed" linking in with the 7 sins he's about to go against. The map can be a portal that gets him home, and he resists it to help the other characters get back safe. Showing why we love Sora and give Sora a "Resist temptation" development at this point. The reflection of Riku's jealously and power greed/greed for escape from the islands can link into your "how did Sora think about that moment."
Treasure planet is perfect for kh4
After the recent Treasure Planet exposure coming from Lorcana (new cards have come out) and for years I've always pictured Jim and Sora actually becoming friends given to Jim's story. Lately there's been some new Treasure planet merchandise like a Morph pin in a blind box so is it keeping my hopes going for a Treasure planet world in KH4 after the exposure of the movie lately? Yes. Yes it is. Treasure Planet is my favorite movie of all time, next to Tarzan I'm sorry I'm just rambling- but thinking during the gameplay Jim helps out with you in combat or Captain amelia helps out OR maybe both?
Also with the keyblade glider, maybe as a minigame we collect things or run through rings/obstacles in homage of Jim going through his solar surfer? It could be a good idea and be fun to play with!
I think the robot in that film was also voiced by the Late Robin Williams. So Dan Castenella it is.
Actually Martin short voices Ben in the film! However the late great Robin Williams voiced Fender in the Blue Sky movie 'Robots' which I highly recommed! @@ZX-Gear
@@invadertorithmva9358you know a storyline I wished was adapted into "KH 4" ? "Knights of the Old Republic 2". "Legends Star Wars" has much more material fitting Sora's story than fake "Canon".
Now, with the vent out of the way, what if to access "Star Wars", Sora first needs to access "Planet Treasure" ? Maybe the "Galaxy far far away" refers to an area of Unreality that doesn't properly reflect Quadratum as an alternative, so it could need special requirements to be accessed.
Oh I love that idea! He could use access from the hyperdrive to get to that era/universe!@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon
Treasure Planet is my favorite animated movie of all time. It's the only new KH world I want, and it has been since I first played KH1.
I still have no idea how this movie is underrated. I must have watched it a million times when I was a kid !
I want treasure planet because it's my childhood movie and two like you said I want the keyblade glider as well.
Treasure planet would be sick! A real keyblade glider would fit the aesthetic for sure!
I’m still hoping for an incredibles world personally, I would go crazy for that 🙏🏾
Me and my brother love that to be in kingdom hearts 4 too🎉❤
I’m pretty sure we’ll get a Moana world. Since we’re out of *good* PotC movies, it fills our Ocean World Criteria. Also the plot of Moana and Te Kā as a boss fight just… feel very Kingdom Hearts.
Edit: If I have to pick between Moana and Treasure Planet… Treasure Planet.
I’d pick treasure planet it’s awesome
Treasure planet's my no. 1 pick.
Wanted it in kh3 and now I want it in kh4
I think "Moana" would be more of a Kairi world, in order to prepare her to cross over to Quadratum.
@@Star-eg3qtmy personal take, is that "Planet Treasure" will be a Sora world, while "Moana" will be a Kairi world meant to prepare her to cross over to Unreality.
@@williamherron5382my personal take, is that "Planet Treasure" will be a Sora world, while "Moana" will be a Kairi world meant to prepare her to cross over to Unreality.
That's one of my favorite Disney movies. I wish it would be a KH4 world.
Not the best at vehicular minigames, but seeing this world would be sweet.
I love treasure planet! Extremely underrated movie I think. It’s amazing how the main villain of the movie, John Silver, redeemed himself at the end but still died at the end of the movie regardless. It’s a very interesting parallel overall.
As do I. With Sora growing up, they should start adapting the more mature movies, WITHOUT cutting the heavy parts, like they did with "POTC".
I would also love Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio to be included somehow.
As much as I am hoping Treasure Planet gets reworked into a future installment, I still think the best place for it would have been in BBS, which I hear it was cut from. Here's how I think it could have gone:
Ventus would stop by first, while Jim is still at the diner from the beginning of the movie. Jim would see the way he rides his keyblade and compare it to solar surfers. They could bond over watching other people get to go travel about while they feel left behind, with Jim's dad having left him as a child and seeing all the people who pass through the inn.
Next would be Aqua while Jim is on the ship. She'd be around for the storm when Mr Arrow's rope was cut, and Jim dealing with feeling responsible for someone having been lost. This would foreshadow the way Aqua will feel regarding Terra's and Ventus' fates, but also herself being lost to the realm of darkness like Mr Arrow being lost to space.
Finally Terra would arrive when the ship made it to the Treasure Planet. He would probably get roped into helping the crew find the map or something. This part might touch on how Jim trusted Silver and ended up feeling betrayed, mirroring Terra and Xehanort.
God, KH4 Sora looks so weirdly not cartoony.
Thats just the aesthetic of verum rex, nomura confirmed it, he'll look different in other worlds.
@@dattos140 OK, cool.
That's a good idea using the treasure orb portal to travel to other Disney world ,Pixar ,and maybe DreamWorks worlds.
@@jacobholly2096 I hope they can make it to "Shreck".
Show some curses are blessings might be the first step in reminding Sora (since apparently Roxas and Naminé being born from Darkness wasn't enough) that Darkness can be good.
@@jacobholly2096 btw, there's a fic called "Sea-Change of Fate" that took the "Shreck" route with Beast's curse. He, Belle and 4 more of the Princesses of Heart share it now. Be sure to read it. It's one of the best fic series I've red thus far. The branch starts when Kairi decides she'll be by the side of Sora and Riku in their adventures.
Treasure Planet would be an excellent world! Just the aesthetics alone already match the somewhat modern futuristic vibe of Quadratum. I do wish we could see world that delve into Strelitzia's psyche, something that challenges her morality or perhaps an experience that helps her grow as a character and a friend to Sora. Quadratum would kinda be that, but if there is a world that could work with her and Sora as a duo, I would love it!
Yes I'm glad to see I'm not the only one wanting a treasure planet.
It would be so cool if Jim gets a keyblade too.
The characters from the movies sadly only get those in fanfics, such as "Sea-Change of Fate", in which Kairi accompanying Sora results in all Princesses getting access to Keyblades of their own, based after the Keyblade of Hearts.
Other than a Marvel or Star Wars world, Treasure Planet is my # 1 most wanted world for KH4 or a future title
i want Treasure Planet Moana ice Age Rio etc to be worlds in Kh4
I think the reason that our characters go to this world is the codex to get to Sora or for Sora to get back to his friends since it is said the portal can go anywhere.
This could make it a trend where the disney worlds have a more clear cut reason for being there other than character development. I think Sora could learn from Jims journey if we think he is going there. I can see a version of kh4 where sora learns from the Master of Masters in this new world and get blindsided by MoM until the seed of doubt is planted from watching Jim and Silver.
Also integrating darkness and heartless seem efforlessly, the heartless could have an unique spawning animation where they show from portals and that is the reason why the Warriors of Light ummm I mean the Guardians of Light need to deal with it. I think TP could serve as a wonderful mid point, turning point or end game depending on how you want to use it and what story lines you want to focus on, think of it like KH4s version of Hollow Bastion from KH1.
The more I think about it the less I think it will be a hub world since that has pretty much always either not existed or been an original world.
Treasure Planet was meant to be a World for Dream Drop Distance but was scrapped for unknown Reasons.... I hope it'll come into a Series someday...
Great video! Hope they do add it to KH4!
And thanks for the shout!
1:56 I doubt the Master has any real hability for genuine affection at this point. Besides, I want Sora to find his way. Not jump from a bunch of self-absorbed puppeteers to a narcisistic one.
i also think it would be cool to collect the lilo and stitch experiments as collectables
To be honest I never watch the treasure planet movie but I might watch it some day
Since we already have Star Wars as a world (Not confirmed but very likely) I don't see them doing a second Space like world...that being said, Treasure Planet is a SOOOOOO much better pick for a world than Star Wars. The fact that they were gonna do a TP world and couldn't continue it makes me feel like that would definitely want to give it another shot.
@@RedFlashdrive "Star Wars" makes a point of saying it's set in a galaxy far far away, perhaps even in the distant past.
What if to reach it, Sora needs to first access "Planet Treasure", as it is more likely Quadratum's counterpart in Unreality ? That's how the worlds usually work in "KH". They're pocket dimensions reflecting each other to an extent.
One more thing, Sora needs a new book to get himself immersed in after outgrowing "Winnie the Pooh". Since "Star Wars" is told as a past story, do you think that could be it ?
There are a lot of great worlds that would fit right in, Atlantis, CoCo, Black Cauldron, Encanto, the worlds you covered, and so many more
But the one world I want to see more than goddamn any of them
Is Ferngully
_I KNOW what_ you’re thinking, “Orion, that’s a _Fox_ property, not a _Disney_ property!” and yeah, that’s true
But guess who _owns_ that property? That’s right it’s _Disney_ baby, yeeAAAHH!
Think about it, Ferngully is Legacy content, it’s ripe for integration into the KH lore, and the whole world just perfectly fits the KH theme as is
We’re gonna need new VA’s for multiple characters, but damnit it would work *_SOOO WELL_*
/Rant over
When I pull up to the function with 🔥🔥🔥
I mean there's a lot they can KH bend to fit the needs. Treasure of 1000 worlds is actually access to kingdom hearts / the hearts of 1000 worlds
Morph as a summon would be pretty unique
Quick question. "Winnie the Pooh" was a literal book Sora immersed himself in the literal sense. So, what other story could work as a more mature book for him to get immersed in ?
"Star Wars" is told almost like a tale.
i'm sure it is probably an issue discussed, but Treasure Planet has the same problem as a "world" like DEATH STAR or STARKILLER BASE would have where... it is not a location that lasts long.
Not very helpful for backtracking or post-game exploration, unless a whole new game flow structure occurs in the series. (or some Quadratum-based time displacement)
an obvious solution is to have the party adventure around before the 3rd act end of the film and the credits show the big earth-shattering kaboom!!
i could imagine the space port Crescentia having much more fleshed levels, letting Sora fetch different parts for the RLS Legacy like a puzzle for Artificial Gravity or racing to earn Solar Sails.
One HYPER FANFIC idea i've cooked up for KH4 (and beyond) would be having the different Worlds we usually see orbiting eachother... be the same Connected Systems.
Star Wars can have GALAXY'S EDGE as an obvious nod. Outer Rim, Core Worlds and UNKNOWN REGION.
Marvel could start off with KNOWHERE for the Guardians, and then lead into AVENGERS TOWER.
Treasure Planet could pull the same voyage, with the same Legacy questline continuing DURING TRAVEL BETWEEN WORLDS.
Not only would this upscale be thematically synchronistic with the stakes being raised, but a late-game victory lap could have Sora FINALLY fly between Twilight Town, Traverse Town AND Destiny Islands!! (if only, it's a dream my heart makes...)
If they didn't do it in KH3, I don't think they'll do it KH4. KH3 was a lot more homogeneous in the style of Disney worlds they explored. Nearly all Pixar and Disney 3D worlds. Don't get me wrong, we finally got Toy Story... but at what cost?
Yeah
treasure planet, gargoyles, darkwing duck, atlantis (not atlantica).
Also my brother and I wanna see the dinosaur world in kingdom hearts 4 not the good dinosaur movie the one with aladar ❤❤❤
Don’t give me hope…
Treasure planet is probably my second favorite Disney movie. >.>
@@KRJayster what's the first favorite ?
@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon Why, a tale as old as time, true as it can be…
@@KRJayster did you ever read the fic "Sea-Change of Fate" ? Among the major changes that come from the Princesses of Heart getting Keyblades thanks to Kairi, there's the fact Belle and Kairi expand the curse. Now, 5 of the 7 Princesses share it. Belle is one of those 5, her features meant to reflect her beloved's.
No arguments here lol