Abandoned Cincinnati Subway Documentary - Is There Hope For Resurrecting the Subway?

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  • An abandoned network of subway tunnels lay hidden underneath Cincinnati. Closed off and mostly hidden, many residents aren't aware that they even exist. But city engineers and planners say that there may still be hope to bring this 100-year-old project back to life.

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  • @kosmokritikos9299
    @kosmokritikos9299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe that the original intent was to take above ground commuter trains underground as they approached the downtown area to relieve congestion. Unless above ground commuter lines are also resurrected, reviving the subway would be no more than a novelty and very unlikely.

  • @RonMaxfield
    @RonMaxfield 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In the late 50's, I was about 5 years old. My family lived on Hopple st. And at the time they we're in the process of putting in I75 me and a boy named Tommy would cross over where I75 is now and go to the openings of the subway under the Central parkway. At that time the entrances to the subway was open. Not knowing what it was we called it the devils den and would dare each other to go in. My name is Ron I am 66 years old. This video brings back lots of memories. Just wonder if Tommy is still alive and if he ever thinks of those days? My Father use to work at a tannery on Hopple st called Haffner Brothers Tannery, that sat at the corner of Hopple and Central Parkway at the corner of Taft Field ball park which was removed to make way for the exit ramp from I 75 to Hopple Street. Wish I could find some pictures of the old tannery and Taft Field park.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks for the comment and the story, Ron. I hope that Tommy sees this and that you two are able to connect!

    • @kosmokritikos9299
      @kosmokritikos9299 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe that the subway runs under Central Parkway, unless there are two of them.

    • @RonMaxfield
      @RonMaxfield ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kosmokritikos9299 Yes your right, I get mixed up with the town where I live now. We have a Columbia Street. Thanks for the correction.

  • @bigpapaporsche1
    @bigpapaporsche1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    At the time the Subway was being thought about, and finally started, Cincinnati had a very bright future! In fact it was one of the leading cities in the Midwest, on Par with Chicago. I think New York City and maybe a one/two other cities had Subway Systems, so Cincinnati was in very good company.The Leaders of the City at that time, were thinking much differently than they are today.

    • @kosmokritikos9299
      @kosmokritikos9299 ปีที่แล้ว

      From the 1950s and into the 1970s, downtown Cincinnati was like a little slice of Manhatten, but without the subways.

  • @markrichards6863
    @markrichards6863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A light rail subway would be a great way to get people downtown. It's a shame to waste that infrastructure.

  • @kevinhoward9593
    @kevinhoward9593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    its kind of like the $50 million Transit Center that no one even knows is there most of the time.

  • @robertyoung9403
    @robertyoung9403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in the 1950's there was talk of "hope" that the subway could really be built.. I guess it will never happen

  • @brianmoore493
    @brianmoore493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I was down there the floor was considerably flooded but overall the pipes and everything still looked intact and the fiber optic lines okay. I thought the craziest part was the bomb shelter. They can make it an electric scooter race track. Rail was never laid so be sure to walk on the wood and avoid touching anything.

    • @stabbymcpokey5901
      @stabbymcpokey5901 ปีที่แล้ว

      I went in about 15 or more years ago. I walked the entire length. I went back recently to see if the entry was still open its locked tight.

  • @kathy2trips
    @kathy2trips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating video. Thank you for sharing this with us.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching. Appreciate the positive feedback!

  • @richspillman4191
    @richspillman4191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well done, useful information.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for taking the time to watch!

  • @Antoineforum
    @Antoineforum ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An Alstom "Citadis type" light rail system would be an adequate formula for a controlled budget.
    Many cities in Europe operate this type of small partially underground network in the center. I am thinking of Rouen, Normandie a city of 500,000 inhabitants, for example.
    In the construction of a rail network, the most expensive part is the infrastructure. In the case of Cincinnati, they already exist. Even if it is necessary to do a lot of upgrading, there is not the structural work inherent in burying the network.
    I don't understand why a metropolitan area like Cincinnati can't fund a network that many smaller French cities can easily fund. Cincinnati's density is perfect for a network of this type.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  ปีที่แล้ว

      I fully agree. I feel like light rail is something so many people of all kinds of backgrounds could get behind. But, since it is unlikely to provide a corporation with massive profits, it is unlikely to happen in this country.

  • @lazerpeabody8062
    @lazerpeabody8062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow wonderful documentary & I hope soon the 5 subways can reopen and be given new life ounce again after 104 years

  • @rootbrian4815
    @rootbrian4815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They could integrate this into a trail system (why not?) and have the entrances (stairways) converted into a long ramp (a steel one, which could be removed once realistic plans for rapid transit emerge), connecting the track beds with platforms and above. That's just one idea. LED lighting wouldn't be bad for the tunnels (you know, so trail users can see) and painting the tunnels (artists could be commissioned) would beautify it.
    While I don't live in cincinati (i'm in toronto canada), this would be a nice repurpose. Though, ventilation would definitely need to be considered (likely wouldn't cost too much) with simple duct work (fans on both ends, pushing air inwards). Toronto has it's own roughed-in queen street subway that was abandoned and never completed (originally the downtown relief line, planned around the same time).

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! That is such a cool idea! Love it!

  • @B-M.B
    @B-M.B 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it would have been really great, when you had increased the volume level quite a bit.

  • @mrmoomooface1662
    @mrmoomooface1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like how they showed footage of them going in just as the guy they were interviewing was complaining about people going in.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For the section where we walked in, we had permission from the city.

  • @Shelly-uj2zw
    @Shelly-uj2zw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do the police monitor the entrance I want to explore this with my friends??

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Shelly! I last entered the system in 2012, and had received prior permission to do so. I would imagine that they do monitor entry at some level, but I did not see anything indicating that they monitored the northmost entrance at the time I entered.

  • @melanibaker6033
    @melanibaker6033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was never opened because they ran out of money. Also took a long time cause they did not have special tools back then than now.

  • @Cody-Bear
    @Cody-Bear 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can barely hear any of the audio

  • @worldoneprofessorjamesperr2417
    @worldoneprofessorjamesperr2417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No hope. But thanks. Peace... 😎

  • @kirkocuz
    @kirkocuz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it’s not up to these guys to lock up the tunnel! it’s not there tunnel

  • @RyanisRude
    @RyanisRude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be cool if this could get converted for the boring tunnels that Elon has proposed. But that’s just wishful thinking.

  • @kyledavis8035
    @kyledavis8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where’d you enter at?

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I honestly can't remember the road (this was almost 10 years ago), but I remember that it was near a White Castle off of I-75.

    • @kyledavis8035
      @kyledavis8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Peter Kleinhenz I actually found it. I tried to get in the same entrance as you but it was locked.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyledavis8035 Dang! That's a bummer that they locked it.

  • @beverlynelsin8833
    @beverlynelsin8833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we do not need no subways ppl need to learn how to walk put ur car away put ur truck away and stop ridding the bus try walking to places man will you find out how heathy u can be just walking to place to place ppl got so lazy it's not funny

  • @MattyIcecubes
    @MattyIcecubes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No, this subway system will never be completed. What would be the point? Cincinnati is done growing, and it would just be a waste of tax dollars.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're probably right on it never being completed, but I'm not so sure that Cincinnati is done growing.

    • @MattyIcecubes
      @MattyIcecubes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterkleinhenz It's done growing. In fact, it's shrinking.

    • @haylieg2780
      @haylieg2780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are wrong about that. Cincinnati is growing quite a bit especially to the north east. I know that because I have family in Cincinnati.

  • @qolspony
    @qolspony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not unless there is a demand and increase in population. But Ohio has been loosing population for decade, so that means an eroding tax base that can pay for this project.

  • @Tron-Jockey
    @Tron-Jockey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone contact Elon Musk. If Elon and his Boring company can build a useless 1.14 mile long tunnel in Hawthorne, California maybe he'd be interested in transforming an existing tunnel into something worthwhile. Looks like his Teslas or perhaps an electric bus would easily fit.

    • @EricSmith-dx1ll
      @EricSmith-dx1ll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Elon would just put useless traffic in it. The operational costs of Teslas would add in more cost than just normal train

  • @michaelrmurphy2734
    @michaelrmurphy2734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It just seems to be a matter of the political will to build a subway there. And the dollars too, of course.

    • @peterkleinhenz
      @peterkleinhenz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. But the actual infrastructure is in surprisingly good shape, it seems!

    • @michaelrmurphy2734
      @michaelrmurphy2734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterkleinhenz Indeed, after about one hundred years. And subways around the world are being expanded too.

  • @Loagun
    @Loagun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes fascinating..... but someone needs to tell that man those tunnels aren't reopening. Maybe post nuclear apocalypse by whoever finds them just like the men who found them 100 years ago.

    • @Honeycawt
      @Honeycawt ปีที่แล้ว

      They were definitely found not built 😅

  • @calvinskim
    @calvinskim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's time to call Elon Musk.