2017 Lexus ES350 UNBOXING Review - BMW Doesn't Want You To Drive This Car
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2016
- Today's unboxing review is all about the 2017 Lexus ES350, a luxury sedan that's not meant for driving enthusiasts. Simply put, the ES350 isn't a very exciting car to drive but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Powered by a 3.5-liter V6 with 268 hp and 248 lb-ft of torque and paired to a six-speed automatic, the ES350 is really nothing more than a restyled Toyota Avalon. Hey, it used to be based on the Toyota Camry, so the Avalon is a nice upgrade. Lexus has applied its latest styling language to create a full-size luxury sedan that, at least at first glance, looks fun to drive.
Step inside and you'll be treated to a slick interior with outstanding fit and finish. It's a Lexus, after all. With a huge rear seat and front-wheel-drive, the ES350 delivers decent fuel economy (21/31 mpg city/highway) and an extremely comfortable ride. But here's the big question: is it worth paying a few thousand dollars more for the Lexus ES350 over the Toyota Avalon, which shares not only a platform but also the same engine and transmission. We discuss that and more in the review. Enjoy!
TImestamps
Introduction: 0:15
Engine start up: 1:25
Engine details and performance: 1:50
Exterior design and details: 2:15
Fuel economy: 3:40
Hybrid option: 4:00
Interior: 4:30
Massive rear seat: 5:20
A few extra features: 5:50
Standard features: 7:00
Awesome interior quality: 7:20
Infotainment system: 7:55
Safety: 8:20
Optional safety features: 9:00
A stylish interior: 9:45
How does it drive?: 10:35
What's the competition?: 11:10
Pricing: 11:45
The Toyota Avalon Factor: 12:25
Cargo space: 14:00
What do I like: 14:15
Don't like: 14:45
Conclusion: 16:10
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I had two BMWs prior to this and yes they drive nice, but I was done paying $150 for oil changes, $400 for battery and programming, and many thousand dollars in repairs right after the warranty expires. . If I spend a lot of money for a luxury car I expect it to last and be trouble free for the most part other than typical maintenance. I chose es350 and love it.
This is so spot on. Luxury to me means you pay a high price for high quality that lasts decades to come. With BMW or any german car you pay a crazy high price and then you get plastic engine components that break and cost a fortune and don't last anywhere near 200k miles, that's not luxury that's garbage. The only way I would get into a german car is via leasing, that way all I pay for is gas.
Sam A Didn't you know BMW means Buy More Warranty, Bring Me Work...............
@@AMC-eq3jr Break my wallet!😁
@@muhsalihu Big Money Waste
I have a 2016 ES350 with 42k miles. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned. It’s beautiful and comfortable. A person who drives a Lexus wants a car they don’t have to worry about.
this is a much better deal than any german car for these reasons alone. 20 yr track record for being reliable and safe with excellent resale value; you can find a ton of es models with over 250k on them past 10yrs old still running fairly well and not rusted. they are cheaper and have a better fit finish ride and tech. they look nice are good on gas have adequate size are nimble and have full size spare. you can have a well equipped 2008 model and would need a very exspensive 2013 or new german car to have those same features. such as pano roof, air in seats. full size spare with kit, rotating headlights,rain sensing wipers etc. it would cost small fortune lol german 55 to 77k new, used 37k to 65k. lexus 44k to55k new, used 15k to 35k. buying a german car makes no sense now. they just dont measure up for the money and pourpose they are selling a myth.. not one of you people are driving more than 120 on a consitent basis so that speed bs is null and void. its just a phony status symbol of old but actual owners facts make lexus a much better case. also lexus is a great car to drive in every way. luxury,technology.safety,power,good looks and fun. my hiusband myself and our family roll in all of ours. ask any real lexus owner and they will tell you no disrespect but i dont want german. i bet not one of you will out class or out ride us on any american highway in any german car. even the sound system is excellent cmon people. caddy is now much better also
thelma taylor .. Well Said!💯
I think where the German models excel is the performance aspect. This may have a peppy V6... but compared to a BMW 3 Series, 5 Series, Audi A6, etc, the krauts will have significantly better chassis, balance, performance, quattro options, xdrive options, turbocharged options, hell even supercharged 6 cylinder options. So I wouldn't toss the baby out with the bathwater and completely dismiss German cars. I love them and admire them... but you have to pay to play. Incredibly expensive repairs, service and terrible resale value. They are 100% a rich mans game. I much prefer Toyota/Lexus as its just a better jack of all trades vehicle, better value if you can live without the high performance stuff. = )
I just test drove a lexus. If you don't care about performance or the drive the lexus is a great choice and definitely a money saver. But when it comes to performance and handling it doesn't compare to its German counterparts
what's wrong with the front end? it's stand out from the rest a very good looking front end.
Nothing looks like it and that's a good thing.
john smith ㄒ
standing out isn't necessarily a good thing. you'll stand out in a pink suit too.
The Lexus ES350 is a lot quieter on the inside versus the Avalon
I don't quite agree with u when u say the previous generation ES is just nothing more than a Camry with the Lexus badge. I own the 2010 ES 350 and i have driven several Camry's even the 2014 and the Totoya Avalon. I'm sorry the attention to details on the previous ES beats the Camry and Avalon. Even looking at this new generation there's still a lot of similarities with the previous generation. Exterior design it virtually the same but with a new grill, headlights, fog lights and tail lights. The interior is similar as well with quality luxury finishing but with more tech available on this model like blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, steering assist, which weren't offered on the previous generation. There's a reason why the ES is the highest selling Lexus, cause it's a perfect blend of luxury and comfort at that price range compared with the competition. Then obviously it's the most reliable car in its class and even more reliable than all the German competitors by a mile with good resale value all positives that make it a best seller.
We never said the ES350, of any generation, is a bad car. Nor did we say the attention to detail, Lexus style, is bad either. But the fact remains: the ES is still a fancier and more expensive Toyota Camry and now Avalon.
Samson Okoro
These car reviewers love to equate platform with the "it's the same car" spiel. It is old-hat - cars are much more than "muh platforms" these days.
Yoshiaki K. I really don't understand how any one who has driven a camry or avalon will say the Es is just a fancier and more expensive camry or avalon. I guess they should say the same for the Mercedes maybach and the s550/600 s class.
They love saying these type of things, especially when it involves different market segments particularly if one car being more expensive. It's probably a jealousy thing of the luxury brands. As few people can afford a brand new luxury car. I agree with you, there is no way you can sit in even an Avalon and then sit in an ES and say it's anything close to being the same. As well as how they drive, Toyota will put much more refinement on their premium luxury brand, even if the car sits on the same platform.
The styling on the Lexus looks much better than the Avalon. The seats, steering wheel, and infotainment center look better. Not to mention, I don't think the Avalon has all of the safety features that the Lexus does. I just checked the top model Avalon and I don't see front or rear proximity sensors.
Why is everyone obsessed with 0-60? Where the hell are you going so fast slow tf down
Joseph Wallace shut up Nigga
You can go f yourself
It is good to have power for merging onto the highway fast or getting into traffic and hitting the gas. However I'd say this ES V6 with 268hp is ample.
Why people be saying Lexus was boring looking cars in the 90s Lexus had it on lock a lot people was pushing es gs and lex coupes the ls was a beast
My mom has 2016 ES 350. I don't know what package she bought but it has the panoramic roof and the 18 inch alloys and it is just beautiful. And performance is surprisingly well for a 268 HP front -wheele drive car
Has it given her issues?
@@nnnbb7587 much like her 2006 Toyota Sienna before her Lexus ES, it hasn't given us a singal issue. And with a little monthly care, the interior still looks brand new just like the exterior.
Could be the executive package. I just picked up a 2015 ES350 with 38787 but was looking at a 2015 executive package with 70k Miles
@@JuanGomez-de1bh how much you paid I looking at one as well
@@Mr503- I paid about 28k all said and done and my monthly payment are 469. Super glad I picked it up honestly
Excellent camera show every angle and details
Great work 👍
Nice video. But I'd have to say that this offers a driving experience. It's just of the luxury-touring variety. I think its important for car reviews to remember that not all cars are designed for high speed performance. Plush, smooth cruising requires a specific engineering all it's own. Its not all about hairpin turns and 0-60
Lexes are the most beautiful cars at this point in time
Proud 2007 ES350 owner here. More features/tech than most newer cars from 2014+, I nary put my foot down and that buttery 3.5 pulls like hell, great mpg esp. hwy! Too much to list!
One of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven, the leather seats are so soft in Lexus compared to other brands. Not sporty at all around corners though compared to a GS/IS can definately feel that it's a fwd car around curves
Well done comprehensive review. I think the real world acceleration is under 7 seconds in "Sport Mode." Many people on the internet still think that the 6th Gen ES is based on the Camry platform and not the Avalon. Nice job explaining this and all the other features. Essentially this vehicle brings the modern world a taste of the luxo ride that was offered in great American luxo cruisers of the late 60's up to around the mid 70's. We're talkin the Cadillac and Buick land yachts, where road noise and harshness were not desirable ride characteristics.
Awesome review
Nice review
I pick lexus over BMW lol
it is the smart choice
So did I! 👍
I did to
Honestly I have a bmw x5 now and planning to switch. I am stuck between a volvo s90 and lexus es350.
Really slick looking ride, doesn't remind me of a Toyota..
That's because Lexus has better exterior designers.
HID-LED-XENON Yeah man, Marvel movies also don't remind me of Disney movies like Hannah Montana. But unfortunately I have the wealth of owning a Lexus.
cool 'boxing'a nimation at the beginning, bro. what MLE do you use?
I have same car with Atomic Silver on outside; parchment interior...great ride!!!
Hello, Great video! can you please tell me what video editing program you used for the graphics in the beginning, less so the white box and more so the wording starting around 1:42. Thanks so much
Adobe AE
“Sport modeTightens up the supspension” it stiffins up steering and increases throttle response
How about E300 Hybird? 0-60 please? Nice Video1!
I really like the new layout with the fancy graphics
Thanks!
I really like the idea of throwing in a child just to visualize the space we are looking at with car seat. tx!
is it worth it to pay for an upgrade to get the paranomic moonroof ?
Love the Grill
I’m thinking about getting this exact model.
Is it a facelift upgrade or a totally new generation ?
Great review! Thanks.
I disagree with your intro.
did you even drive this car?
it's not that boring.
in fact, i like it more than my gs350
I won one with all black interior and pearl white
Own*
My Nam ... I’ve Been waiting for a GS owner to give props to the ES350 salute!💯
You must own old GS if its 2014 and up I don’t know how u can compare the drive of GS to front wheel drive ES
@@jinalshah7567 how do you like your 350 3 years after I'm looking into getting one as you described
Is this better than the cadillac cts
You should review the GS 350 next.
I want this vehicle!!
Guys what is better avalon or es350
I love the color of interior.
very good comfortable vehicle
Where did you get one with the non glossy wood finish on the interior? Everyone I've seen they have such a high gloss finish on all the wood parts that they look like plastic! Definitely a beautiful car (just bought one), but the Buick LaCrosse certainly gives it a run for the money - in the end the legendary Lexus reliability swayed my choice - although the recent ratings on Buick reliability have improved. By the way I had a 2014 Avalon from new, there are many similarities between the two the Lexus is more comfortable, quieter and smoother.
Just test drove a 2017 Lacrosse. Lot's of bells and whistles, but I bought the Lexus.
THATS A BEAUTIFUL CAR DUDE,,,
the rear seats do not fold down they are not 60/40 fold down just a pass through and the sport mode does NOT tighten the suspension just the steering and changes the throttle response and the shift response from the trans
And 0-60 is more like 6.8 seconds
No badging for the premium auto? How does one know if the car has upgraded sound system? I'm shopping for an ES350 and will only want one with the premium sound.
look in the rear window from the outside and you will see a ML badge on the subwoofer. Also under the hazard warning switch a badge. Hard to find but absolutely worth it if you love sound stage music
It didn't have mark Levinson system bull. There would be a badge.
Lovely car
Great review. I heard from a friend the ES 350 engine is also set up to use regular gas over premium. Is that true?
That is true. I drive 2016 Lexus RX350 and you can use regular unleaded fuel. GS, IS, and LS requires premium fuel.
I own a 2017 ES 350 and that was one of the selling points for me. I have the option to use regular unleaded gasoline. Plus, you cant beat it's reliability. It's pure luxury. It's not a sports car. Performs beautifully! Love all the tech and the plush interior. I just bought my car with practically most of the upgrades that someone else paid for about 1 year ago. They paid 44,000. I paid 28,600 with 8,848 miles still under factory warranty. Plus, its pre- certified. Clean carfax!
@@traceyglenn3631 Wow, you got a awesome deal there. I was looking at one with 9k miles, about 28100 usd before tax.
Certified pre-owned car prob cost 1500 usd more since the 2 yrs extra warranty and free maintenance for 20k miles from Lexus.
@@khoiquach Yes, I got that same thing! Definitely, comes in handy!
Yes
When will you be reviewing the Lexus RX 350/450h F-Sport?!
We'll get going on those.
I have a 2016 Lexus GS and i prefer if over the Lexus ES
why are u comparing lexus to toyota? instead of bmw etc
upinderjit98 Lexus and Toyota are sisters. Lexus is the luxury version of Toyota.
He’s bugging about the drivers experience. I have a 2015 mustang and this is a much gunner drive. Love it. Entertainment system is fine. You get used to it.
I’ve been driving this model for 2 years already and I have put 13k miles on it. After you drive a Lexus for that amount of time... it is kind of hard to find other brands that can match the level of quality of these vehicles. The car has a lot of power and acceleration, it provided you with a safety feeling that few other brands can provide. The only problem I have with thos car is the gas consumption. It males like 15.4 m/gallon in city, of course it depends on how you drive. She likes premium gas and she likes it a loooot. I would recommend this car 100%. Is the safest and most comfortable machine out there for the price. Residual value in this car is also amazing!
I don't think 0-60 is 5.8 sec. It is 7.1 sec according to Lexus website. How did you get the number ?
My mistake, I believe you're right.
I think it's 6.8 secs really, at least that's what quoted for my 2010 model and this has the same engine as the previous generation.
your funny, it's deep into the 5's 0-60 fanboy. Look up the times online.
Bob Davis 👎
it's all good buddy. you know it's true lol.
The interior is awesome but the cup holders are very weird
Crazy thing is, Avalon where I am right now has higher interest rates by alot over the ES so the price of the ES is similar
How does a comfortable ride not equal a great driving experience? 13:40
For the 2017MY, Lexus made the safety tech like radar cruise control, pre-collision, pedestrian detection, and lane keep assist, standard. Weird that blind spot warning is still optional though. Also, have you felt the fake leather in Lexus...most people can't even tell it's man made leather. Lastly, complaining that Lexus doesn't give you enough? Look at the Germans! They charge you a lot for everything and are the worst at making anything standard.
I think Lexus started taking a page out of the Germans' play book here. Business is business. But still, I do believe a Lexus offers better overall value (not to mention lower ownership costs) than any of its German rivals.
Serious never heard a car stereo worth $2000. Those are the highest profit margin item for a dealer...hence why they push them.
I heard the same thing that you did, and I think that he misspoke, I think that it's $2600 for a package that includes other things than just the stereo upgrade. I have a Mark Levinson edition in my current GS, and I definitely want it to be in my new car purchase. It's actually a deal breaker for me if it doesn't have one. I'm pretty certain that I'm going to get an ES, not sure that I'll get a 2017, but maybe a 15 or 16. I don't really like these new wheels on the 2017.
Leather no longer means luxury. It is bad for the environment and generates a lot of CO2 during production. Most people cannot tell NuLuxe from real leather. I have a CT and everyone cannot believe it is essentially a vinyl like product because it is so supple. Leather just doesn't make sense because there are better alternative that require NO maintenance, unlike leather which will crack overtime and requires conditioning and is much more photosensitive. I have never preferred leather because there are so many drawbacks…
Joseph Wallace you can but it with faux leather
You said "Lincoln XTS"; I think you meant Cadillac. The XTS is arguably one market above the ES, being in the mid 40s to start and easily shoots up from there, up to ~70 grand. XTS is more of an LS competitor because of size - and now the CT6 also is an LS competitor. Don't get stuck on the rear wheel vs front wheel drive meme. These big companies go after each other on size, fit and finish, and price also. Perhaps the ATS or CTS is more of a competitor based on size, then again, they're not. Cadillac doesn't have a direct comparison to the ES, IMO.
Oh man, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out. Car makes and models all start sounding the same after a while. Honestly, no. The (Cadillac) XTS is not a Lexus LS competitor. The CT6 is. The ATS is too small (and too different overall) to compete with the ES. The CTS? Maybe, and that's a big maybe.
I don't know man, the XTS still holds its own and is one of the most distinctive cars on the road, it ushered in many firsts for Cadillac when it was introduced. It's aged well, and the interior blows away the 90s-esque LS interior IMO (I've been in both, plenty of times). Also, the XTS optioned out at ~73k, with 400 horses, that awesome Bose studio sound system (small tweeters built into your seat shoulder), the digital displays, ambient lighting, illuminated car handles etc, plenty of luxury.. Also it looks just darn cool and best at dusk or night time, especially walking toward it with the handles lit and the front super bright vertical LED's blinding everyone and classy as heck, I think it is an LS competitor, IMO. Every time I see a waxed XTS I picture Sade's No Ordinary Love, instrumental version playing in my head. So, I don't see why not as an LS compeitior. The CT6 is just icing on the cake. Also, thanks for the reply.
We want the ES-Series also in Europe!!!! :-(
Are you serious?
Yes I'm. why do you ask? :-/
Dermatrans wondering the same
I personally own a bmw 730 il but il say this tht lexus holds the best resale value compared to european cars...
Lexus: Top rated vehicle with a GOLD BAR rating by J.D. Powers. Enough said.
@14:03 No 60/40 split folding seats as mentioned
I have a friend who's grandma has this car... that's right!!😂😂😂
Grow up.
And ?
Great review, as always. But comparing it with the MB E class a Cadillac CTS was wrong, it is not from that class, the GS is. This one competes with the Kia Cadenza, Buick LaCrosse.......
Generally, car reviewers get frustrated when they review non sporty cars and always try to belittle the car, as in this case. This car is popular despite the negatives he keeps repeating. This car has an exemplary reputation and holds its resale value better than most other cars. This fact is seldom mentioned, just like reliability and dependability. Consumer Reports gives a much better comparison of brands without the bias of reviewers like this.Who really cares what an individual reviewer like this says. What are his credentials to review cars that he doesn't like because they are not sporty enough for him?
just bought one
How do you feel about it 2 years later? Any options to avoid?
Is this Flaxen interior?
Yes, its flaxen. My favorite interior.
All we need it's MIRRORING function with our phone...but they never learn the lesson-_- Maybe until Nowdays And 2021?
Your reviews are very good and cover a lot of details. I just don't like the long pauses that sometimes come up when you're talking! :/
Thank you! I take pauses so that viewers have a chance to "soak" everything in, allowing for better pacing. I want people to learn a thing or two from my videos, and not be overwhelmed by too much info at once.
@@carbuzzcom Exactly!! I have learned from a public speaker, that pauses allow the audience to catch up/soak what has been said! With that being said... Awesome video!!
which is better, es 350 or maximum platinum why, pros & cons of both?
Uh, Maxima. The Lexus, is nice and all, but it lacks personality. The Maxima, in our opinion, makes a better effort.
Reliability and resale value the Maxima or Infinity of any kind can't touch Lexus. That plays on the mind of people buying luxury cars bro, not just driver engagement or sportiness.
Pay more because you get an extra year warranty. It's 4 years.
Also Lexus cars can easily be bought end of year for 11k off. Toyota just 5k off. So if you somewhat of a negotiator this car will be THOUSANDS less than an Avalon. Avalon is less flashy for sure. Finally service at Lexusnis phenomenal along with free car rental!!
"Lexus cars can easily be bought end of year for 11k off"? End of "car year" as in now or end of calendar year? I've never heard that one could get such a good deal on a Lexus. Truecar has a little over $3k off the different packages. Do you have a better source?
I just purchased a brand new 17' ES 300h and received right at $10K off. It does happen. They have to get the 17' models off the lot to get the 18's in the mix. Also got a new 17' RX 350 for the wife and got right at $7K off. Lexus deals are out there if you're willing to buy in Dec or Jan on the out-going models.
0-60 in 5.8sec? No way!!
I find it laughable to hear people say that the Lexus ES is based on the Avalon platform. It’s the other way around. The Avalon does not exist in the Japan/Asian market. Ask a European if they’ve heard about the Toyota Avalon and they’ll probably just scratch their heads.. but ask them about the Lexus ES, and they’d tell you a lot of good things about it. The Avalon was a copy cat of the ES. Meant to target the American market alone. The Lexus ES has more under its sleeve than the Avalon can offer.
In Saudi Arabia lexus es 350 272hp
I don't know why in America 268hp
علي الحميد y did y'all do 9/11
adolf jr what do you mean!!!!!?
FORC3OFX F3AR stop with the fucking blaming all Arabs for terrorism.
Wow either you were paid to lower the worth of the car by comparing it to a toyota avalon every 5 seconds or you dont understand cars.
As someone who owns this car i can say the avalon is so shity compared to this that its not even funny. This car can also take turns pretty well even though its a fwd luxury sedan. Either do your job properly or dont do it at all.
The back looks exactly like a Toyota Camry lol
Cruz Montoya Okay??
Lexus GS 350 is the better drive here....more power, rear wheel drive, better
finished interior and dash. All for not much more money
I mean look at those boot/trunk hinges. Not even in enclosures so it'll crush luggage.
The trunk hinges don't go up & down. They move in a sort of circular motion and will not crush luggage.
Michael Darrow It will if packed fully. They didn't have to do it so cheaply.
I have this car. I have packed the trunk fully. The hinges remain exactly where they are as the trunk lid goes up & down. They move in a clever circular motion. Nothing gets crushed. Go to the dealer and look at one.
But it still ends up looking unfinished and cheap. For a Lexus they could've at least enclosed them. Just seems like cost cutting to me.
This style of hinge can't be enclosed. It needs to be open to be able to clear the edge of the trunk opening. It's a nice hinge. Works beautifully.
avalon has rear heated seats-and puddle lights,lexus doesnt.lexus has heated steering wheel with wood,electric trunk avalon doesnt both cars look great
Lexus needs to learn from the S Koreans (kia) I think not. I have a 2013 ES350 with all the bells and whistles and every thins still works (it was made in Japan)
Goofy that the author is unaware of the differences between the Avalon and ES350. For starters, the Avalon is distinctly noisier and less well sound insulated and has hard, economy car like seats. The Avalon just does not deliver a premium car experience.
STILL NO HOLD BUTTON!!! SO IT IS A CAMRY STILL. NO ELECTRONIC CONTROL OF THE CAR!
BMW! They are money pits!
BMW Breaking My Wallet!!!
It should never have been called ES. It should be called MS for Mid-size sedan. It's too small for executive.
the new Avalon is shit but this is okay.
Leather colour. Yuk
BMW is a completely different. At least compare GS350 to basic BMW5
WHY ? Why on earth Lexus let down the great V6Hybrid as an option in these good luxury sedan cruisers ??? The GS450h is one hell of a sleeper and a very smooth comfortable ride. All these small underpowered 4cylHybrids will NOT sell in germany because they are just to lame on Autobahn were every little fucking Golf is faster due to less weight ! ANd the V6 without Hybrid also NOone will buy just becasue its consumption and gas price ! I drive a old RX450h with the V6 Hybrid and its pretty good ! I test drove a IS250h with 4cylHybrid and it sucks., sry but a Lexus deserves a V6 at least . Worst of all Lexus wipe out the GS450Hybrid from their list in europe.......i smell they fall down like Infiniti and will quit in europe in a few years.
Our German friends will only buy German products. They want to support German workers at any cost.
@@c3piano .....i know, but even with a speedlimit these 4cyl.. are to noisy. Our workers are idiots ; they work 40 their ass off for the bancrupt EU countries and corrupt governments. But Lexus has a good reputation still in germany. But the high import taxed from EU add a lot of monex to them :-( Trump has a fair point here !!
This reviewer got paid by Lexus, the Mercedes e300 only 4 cylinders 2.0l engine. Not to mention the interior in all lexus models look like my grandpa old car, look at their ugly clutch 😂😂
oh no! an outdated gas guzzler? please stop testing those steam powered ford t`s.
Ford Model Ts were never steam-powered.
Lexus does not want you to drive it
This is why comes outdated from the box
I rather drive a BMW than this. Nice Toyota though. The Navigation looks so outdate. Wide screen 12.7" is the way to go now days.
Agreed.
M I C H A E L
ha BMW'S are garbage. shiny turds. they look nice but their upkeep is insane.
Big Money Wasted
I have driven a bmw 535 2015 model and the Lexus ES has a better interior than the bmw and is much more comfortable, but the bmw is miles ahead when cornering and speed.
I agree 100% with you,german cars are like that and beautiful too ,the problem is the fucking electrical problems ,they only good for till the warranty is over,after sell it ,a big friend is a mechanic at a BMW dealer he always says you want problems buy a BMW, in 1992 I got a brand new Passat nice car beautiful for that time, but fuck I was in the dealer every month ,all never get another VW ,crap
eh no point in lexus Es. just buy a Gs
GS is much more expensive
That interior is sad. Full of cheap looking Toyota bits. You can't be serious comparing this thing to a Mercedes or BMW. This car is cheaper because it is made cheaper. A GS would be more an E Class or 5 Series competitor not this rebadged Avalon. There is a reason why Lexus does not do well at all elsewhere in the world. And lol at calling that interior high quality. Lexus has pulled a fast one on you Americans hey. Well it is "Luxury" EXport to the US I suppose and I think the rest of the world gets luxury more than yall so calling it luxury with that horrendous interior...I don't know.
Bwahaha....I couldn't stop laughing when you said the reason for the amazing German interiors is because of Lexus. I don't think they even consider Lexus a serious competitor just like the rest of the world. And sorry those 90s digital watch graphics for the climate control. No no no come on you just can't be serious. Hehehe. I am having a good old laugh here. This review smacks of bias because no one outside of the US ever gave this terrible car a good review nor have they ever compared it to a Mercedes or BMW. Maybe Infiniti and Cadillac but not the Europeans. Hehehe
You just said a whole load of rubbish really, have you checked the numbers for global sales? Go check how successful this car is in the middle east plus a host of other Lexus models. Some of the rubbish that come out from some people who live in Europe or so and think everything revolves around them. Is it the Audi A4 or Bmw 3 series? apart from the C class there's no German car in this price range that has a better interior than this car. I have been in all of them, i have driven several of these cars and i talk from experience. I bet you haven't even driven a modern Lexus before. The ride quality and comfort of the seats in this Es and other Lexus's beats what's in the German rivals for sheer comfort. The drive in this car is smoother than the E class and C class, test these things before coming here to write so much rubbish from a European perspective where all the laws protect all European car manufacturers ahead of other rivals. Most of all the Bmw's Audi's and all you find on European roads are leased if you didn't even know despite the laws favouring them heavily. Lexus is over priced in most European countries so of course it'll be a tall order for them to beat the European manufacturers in their continent. Go check the numbers in Asia as well and you'll see a very competitive market. Lexus only struggles against the Europeans in Europe alone. In Africa where i reside Lexus out sells the nearest European rival 2 to 1. There are barely any new Audi's, Bmw's here. There are quite a few Mercedes Benz but no where close to what Lexus shifts brand new or used vehicles. I have been to several countries and i say these things from what i have seen and also what i have researched. I love Mercedes and Bmw from the Germans, love Range Rover and Jaguar but i won't make such ludicrous comments as you did cause it makes one sound like a novice. The Lx570 where i reside is the 2nd highest selling luxury Suv in that 100k price point very close to the Range Rover. Nobody buys Audi SUV's and there are very few BMW and Mercedes Suv's here. How about the Lexus Rx 350 the highest selling luxury crossover SUV terms of sales globally. Do some research and avoid these kind of comments.
I have driven the new Lexus and while they are smooth and comfortable, they are not as smooth and comfortable as the best from the German manufacturers. Their engines and gearboxes leave a lot to be desired and they never perform as well as the German competition. Lexus interiors are the worst part for me. If they want to claim they are a luxury car maker then they should at least make an effort to use bespoke switchgear instead of the ugly cheap looking Toyota bits. Where you are they might sell more but overall Lexus isn't close to selling as many cars as the Germans. I'm sorry but Lexus needs to step it up.
SDav21 You just said different from what the entire industry knows excluding you. You may have a gripe with their interiors as you claim but from all the German manufacturers only the new S class and E class beats What's currently in the new Gs 450h presidential line and it isn't a great gap. I come from a family that owned the previous s class, have driven several Mercedes Benz cars, bmw as well. I can tell you for certain no Mercedes-Benz or Bmw drives as smooth or as comfortable as a Lexus. The newer Mercedes-Benz cars are very close but still not as smooth as the latest Lexus's. I have loved Mercedes-Benz all my life and I won't just hop on some band wagon stuff from Europe. Why are you comparing Lexus with all the German manufacturers, compare them individually. Last year Mercedes-Benz beat Lexus marginally in overall sales in North America cause they dropped the new models on time which went on sale. Do u know that was the first time Mercedes-Benz benz since the 2000's was the highest selling luxury brand in North America? The year before Lexus was no 1, and with the new models released mid/end of last year like the new topping Rx model u should expect another top performance from Lexus this year. The same goes in the middle east, compare them individually, don't compare one brand against 3 or 4 brands. The only continent were Lexus doesn't compete is in Europe. Have you seen the new Ls 500? If u have and can't appreciate how drastic Lexus has changed it just means you are biased and there's no point debating further. Top speed recently did a comparison review of all the new flagships and the Lexus beat the s class, 7 series and A8 with interior design. The new Ls has a fabulous incredibly crafted modern interior. Look at the floating arm rest design and two colour tone leather design with wood in the middle all laid out vertically instead of in the usual horizontal way as most European cars and other manufacturers. Watch as many other manufacturers take a cue from Lexus with this interior design and people will later hail Mercedes-Benz and others for doing what Lexus did well before.
Samson Okoro It's not just about sales in North America or middle East. Individually, each German manufacturer sells way more cars than Lexus WORLDWIDE. And no the new LS has stolen many interior design cues from the S Class and the interior of the new LS looks like a mish mash of various design ideas. It is not appealing especially the cluster behind the steering wheel which is fine in an LC500 for example but not in a large luxury car.
SDav21 that's a lie, pls bring the statistic to back it up, I have seen global stats and Europe is where the Germans dominate alone. You forget that the North American market is far bigger than Europe hope u know that? U forget that the Asian market is bigger than Europe? Go check the figures in Asia. Why do you think Toyota is so rich and so big and only VW of recent comes close? And VW is only close cause of the cheaper cars they sell amongst several other businesses they run and own. Lexus sells more against each German rival in Africa, sells more in North America and more in the middle East. I don't have the statistics for Asia as a whole but I have seen the Japanese stats and Lexus dominates there as well for luxury brands. Stop this crap talk about each German manufacturer selling more than Lexus globally. Europe will never be global
I'll take a BMW over this any day. It's looks good but man it will not age good in a few year compared to a BMW.
Lexus don't age bmw do they change they body so much u can tell what year ur car is with Lexus u never know what year it is
It's the other around body. BMW don't change as much as Lexus. A 2013 BMW 5 Series looks good compared to a 2013 Lexus ES, looking a toyota camry now days.
Michael Nguyen I hope you own or have owned both makers before making these comments. Speaking from experience, Lexus by far is the much better luxury brand period!
I've own 2 Lexus and 2 BMW. 2016 Lexus NX and 2017 Lexus ES - 2015 BMW 5 Series and 2016 BMW X5. Trust me, BMW definitely a better ride and more techs compared to a Lexus.
Michael Nguyen if decide to keep the beamers, you're going to visit the dealer/shop quite often. I'm sure you're already aware of that.
Jesus..horrible job..what is the point? And why the silent audio gaps? Keep your voice at consistant level
Worst car ever , looks ugly exterior
Is it a facelift upgrade or a totally new generation ?
Facelift. I had a 2104 which was identical except for the front grill.