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2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Hybrid Hoist Review | Underbody, Suspension

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2022
  • Jordan discusses his findings on the undercarriage of Toyota's new 2022 Tundra TRD Capstone (iForce MAX Hybrid) Truck
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  • @rickrogers4990
    @rickrogers4990 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Am amazed at the amount of detail this man explains this guy is way more informative and detailed than most reviewers out there

  • @cwilliams4227
    @cwilliams4227 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love these analysis videos. You do an awesome job of explaining industry specific stuff. The more in depth the more I love them!
    That rear diff, housing and 4 link (excluding brakes and shock points) looks exactly like my 1990 80 series cruiser. Also the spare wheel mount with long chain.

  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The underside quality looks so much better than the Maverick. Will keep this in mind in buying future used cars.

    • @SpicyRok7482
      @SpicyRok7482 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is no Maverick. This is a Capstone Tundra...TOP of the line.

  • @RallyRat
    @RallyRat ปีที่แล้ว +11

    11:30 Large diameter aluminum driveshafts are used for their lateral stiffness to weight ratio so a long driveshaft can still have a high critical speed. OEMs like a long single piece shaft whenever possible to eliminate the carrier bearing. A steel shaft could in theory do the same job at the same weight and same diameter with a much thinner wall, but would be very prone to denting and manufacturing defects.

  • @bradcavanagh3092
    @bradcavanagh3092 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    A pity that Toyota doesn't sell the Landcruiser or Hilux in the US, because I'd really like to see what the Munro crew have to say about them.
    "If you want to see the outback, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back, take a Landcruiser" - Ancient Australian proverb

    • @fincarosa
      @fincarosa ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Absolutely. Landcruisers are beasts

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Technically this chassis/engine of the tundra is actually the latest land cruiser 300 underpinnings!

    • @stephanematis
      @stephanematis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alanmay7929 Exactly.

    • @markjonz
      @markjonz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Dinosaur engineering” by the look of it

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markjonz that’s what she said lol……

  • @jetta2725
    @jetta2725 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Munro’s great videos, I enjoying watching this type of videos. Thank you Munro team for everything you do!

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well presented and very interesting, thanks. 👍

  • @brianb-p6586
    @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The front brake calipers are opposed-piston (fixed body), but the rears are sliding... because that allows them to have a parking brake feature (with the currently popular electric actuator on the caliper, rather than the traditional mechanical cable).

  • @channelnamehere4065
    @channelnamehere4065 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love these types of shows!

  • @hardyvonwinterstein5445
    @hardyvonwinterstein5445 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good show, great presentation. Top!

  • @michaelplotkin7383
    @michaelplotkin7383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video, thanks.

  • @WANDERER0070
    @WANDERER0070 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like the solid paint on the frame. All my Chevy trucks only had soft vax undercoating that doesnt last long.

  • @raddaks2039
    @raddaks2039 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I've actually never seen a deep-dive to this level on an ICE vehicle before, so thanks!

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol….. you must have been living under the rocks then!!!

    • @koeniglicher
      @koeniglicher ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't Sandy Munro say just recently they would never do ICE cars again? Only cheap ones, where they can learn from cost saving measures? I wonder why they made an exception here on this 70k USD Toyota Tundra.

    • @calholli
      @calholli ปีที่แล้ว

      @@koeniglicher Someone who works there probably bought one-- so they threw it on the lift, just because it's there.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@koeniglicher yeah why not expensive ICEs and also where is the cybertruck!? It can’t even do 500miles of range let alone be a candidate for things like overlanding…… people are already modifying the tundra for overlanding……. ICE still have a lot of advantages compared to EVs like it or not

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@koeniglicher even tesla uses ford and Mercedes’ ICE vans for their mobile services go figure out!! Why didn’t Tesla convert those vans into electric!?!? 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

  • @mundoracer
    @mundoracer ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The additional remote radiators may be for a different temperature set of cooling... Isolated from the main radiator, which runs at a higher temp and therefore undesirable for the e drive side

    • @SpicyRok7482
      @SpicyRok7482 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Addition radiators" are indeed Twin Intercoolers for the Twin Turbocharged 3.4L V-6 gasoline engine.

  • @jw8578
    @jw8578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review and information...

  • @GrandHuevotes
    @GrandHuevotes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also don’t forget wheels themselves are also designed as a part of “sorb” packages to absorb energy (the wheels break apart) as well as to prevent them from pushing into the cabin. I wish you guys would maybe do a little bit on the wheels and see if anything the camera can see.

    • @GrandHuevotes
      @GrandHuevotes ปีที่แล้ว

      (In some newer cars 2015+ ish, not all)

  • @keefgtp
    @keefgtp ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Toyota truck chassis are soooo much easier and nicer to work on than USDM chassis. All those individual brackets you mention are easily replaceable if there is ever a problem with them, unlike American trucks where if there is a rust or damage issue it's very labor intensive to cut, grind, and weld a new bracket on. On the Toyota you simply unbolt it and replace it. Multiple brackets also prevents a single bracket failure from effecting multiple systems. Can you imagine if a sway bar end link bracket failed for some reason - a relative non-issue if the other side is still connected - but that also meant your fuel tank mount failed? Wow.

  • @raven----
    @raven---- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done!

  • @stunimbus1543
    @stunimbus1543 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:04 we do need to see the dance moves

  • @sw20indy
    @sw20indy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those extra radiators are the heat exchangers for the air to water intercoolers.

  • @rlaxton666
    @rlaxton666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Prado in Australian market has used 4 piston fixed calipers in the front for well over a decade now. Parts bin I suspect

  • @MrFoxRobert
    @MrFoxRobert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome!

  • @timrozenboom
    @timrozenboom ปีที่แล้ว

    Great speaker!

  • @Gooddog1
    @Gooddog1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really appreciate the in depth details of a potential truck for me.

  • @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
    @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Boys and Girls , behold the Toyota Turdra! You are looking at Toyotas future, and Toyota is going to be History!.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyota trucks are always a decade or two behind.

    • @SpicyRok7482
      @SpicyRok7482 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't mention Toyota's "NEW" Completely-Boxed Frame.

  • @kens97sto171
    @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mechanical fan is certainly less efficient. Though they are thermally activated and can vary the speed a bit too. They do move A TON of air.. WAY more than any electric fan can do. And is a pretty compact design given the air volume they can move. You would need HUGE electric motor to move the same amount of air,.

  • @ericrotermund1004
    @ericrotermund1004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fan clutch is reliable ,they really shine when you tow
    You can really move tons of air with those things I can see the needle move when mine kicks in

    • @SpicyRok7482
      @SpicyRok7482 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your's has a NEEDLE?!? Most new models have only the "virtual" instrument cluster...a bar graph.

  • @lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269
    @lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a lot or reminiscence to my 99 1st generation Tacoma. Same style LCA, same style UCA, similar front Diff. Same style of frame, add the new body dampers, Same style rear axle housing, 3rd member, add the 4 piston rear brakes, similar to the same style fixed 4 piston front brakes as my Tacoma. One thing I'd like to point out on the rear axle housing; I really like the simplicity if the pressed steel design. It's geometrically stiff ,durable and an economical use of material. It's also only 3 pieces welded together. You can weld modify and repair it if needed. Ie, adding brackets for traction bars etc. One thing your presenter got wrong is the center section material on the American trucks. It's probably not cast iron if it's being welded to. Cast iron and forged steel look similar in appearance, but forged welds great, and cast bolts or brazes together.
    Thanks for doing the informational videos, I find your show very interesting.
    I wish Toyota innovate with there trucks again. I think with mega casting and snap in place plastic body panels the could make a simple , durable, practical and cheap truck again the befits the common working man. A tough simple machine, made to work, and get great reliability and economy. Thanks again!

    • @stephenj4937
      @stephenj4937 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fortunately they aren't using drum brakes on the new Tundra.

  • @nch-wf3tu
    @nch-wf3tu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well spoke. But Are these good or junk? I need a truck and can’t decide!!!

  • @peiguy1982
    @peiguy1982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm sure someone already said this. 19:40 looks like the air to water intercooler setup to me. Toyota did spend extra money on this setup compared to their air to air competitors. Noticed this in the parking lot a few months back.

    • @evisresortatnggatiranaisla1673
      @evisresortatnggatiranaisla1673 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes I just made that same comment.. This is common wiht Landcruiser 300 and both are on TNGA-F platform

  • @AraCarrano
    @AraCarrano ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking forward to 2023 Genisis G80 Electric up on the lift.

  • @vitocorleone3724
    @vitocorleone3724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The spare tire carrier chain is relatively uncommon to cause corrosion of the inner wheel. The mass of the chain keeps it from contacting the wheel under most driving conditions.

  • @rickfearn3663
    @rickfearn3663 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exceptional analysis. I wonder if Toyota is growing old....

  • @xeontis
    @xeontis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That "Torque Box" appears to limit the aftermarket tire size, I won't be surprised when some owners simply cut it off for clearance.

    • @123devinzz1
      @123devinzz1 ปีที่แล้ว

      guys have been cutting that cab mount since 2005 to fit bigger tires. they even sell kits that replace the cab mount alltogether

  • @brianb-p6586
    @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rear axle beam housing fabrication from stampings should be structurally more efficient than tubes inserted into a central "pumpkin", right? It does require tooling specific to each track width, which would be expensive for a company such as Dana making axles to fit a range of vehicles, but that's not a problem for Toyota.
    The cast (or forged) portion is the carrier; a bolted-in cast or forged carrier is a common live beam axle construction.

  • @evisresortatnggatiranaisla1673
    @evisresortatnggatiranaisla1673 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:43 Jordan - are the side mounted radiators in fact intercoolers as per the Landcruiser 300? Both are based on the Toyoya TNGA-F platform so I suspect they are indeed air to water intercoolers.

  • @llevl289
    @llevl289 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The fixed calipers are standard on almost all Toyota trucks and SUVs on the front. Ever since noting them on my 2003 Tacoma TRD, I've kept my eye on most cars to see their brake type up front. GM has gone this route recently for trucks which compete with the Toyotas afaict.

  • @Thecarguy1254
    @Thecarguy1254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find retaining the viscous fan, especially on the hybrid, to be interesting. In towing the viscous fans typically cool better, hence why semis retain them. I to believe that is a pwm controlled clutch however.

    • @SpicyRok7482
      @SpicyRok7482 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 2014 Infiniti QX80 5.6L V-8 gas eng. has BOTH a temperature-controlled Visco fan clutch & a magnetic-coupled belt-driven cooling fan.
      The QX80 is basically a Nissan "Patrol" SUV, "off-road" type vehicle built TOUGH as ****!

  • @1976axerhand
    @1976axerhand ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a 2022/23 Santa Cruz on the lift? If not could you.ty

  • @benjaminkessler8169
    @benjaminkessler8169 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Same chain design on my Hilux. It’s not hitting anything while driving. I coated everything in wax tho

  • @maxwelltollefson9947
    @maxwelltollefson9947 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s amazing how little they’ve changed underneath on this vs the previous gen.

    • @gth042
      @gth042 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The window was upgraded to $70k.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Low volume for sure.
      "While Americans can’t seem to get enough of the mid-size pickups from Japanese automakers, they absolutely shun their full-size trucks. According to data from WardsIntelligence, the highest market share Toyota has seen with Tundra was 9.1% and that was in 2007. It currently hovers in the 5% range. It’s even worse for Nissan. The best the Titan was able to muster was 3.5% of the market in 2005. Today it’s at 1.5%. With the Detroit Three commanding 94% of full-size pickup sales this year, it might almost make more sense for Toyota and Nissan to share a large truck platform." Autoline

    • @chrisborns5972
      @chrisborns5972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is about as much change as most legacy OEMs accomplish from generation to generation.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normt430 120k units isnt low volume. 🙄 The Ranger is a lower volume truck than the Tundra.

    • @paintedpony2935
      @paintedpony2935 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅🤣😂 I think you're used to Tesla.

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That strap under the prop shaft is very interesting to me. The early 80's Toyota Crown 6 had examples of the long prop shaft fatally de-coupling from the gearbox. Toyota performed a major recall to replace all the single long prop shafts with two section ones, carried in a chassis-mounted bearing at about 1/3 length. I worked at a Toyota dealership at the time and watched them passing through.

  • @marklundeen1025
    @marklundeen1025 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you are pointing out the cast iron brackets under the truck, are you sure it's not cast steel? Cast iron would be very week for that application. At least that's my understanding of cast iron. Thanks for the walk through. Cast iron doesn't fair well with a dynamic load.

  • @MrTeff999
    @MrTeff999 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting contrast between you and Sandy who doesn’t mince words when he sees something he doesn’t like.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sandy rants; Jordan makes thoughtful observations.

  • @erickim28
    @erickim28 ปีที่แล้ว

    will appropriate if you look at and compare with ram1500, f150

  • @yuglesstube
    @yuglesstube ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks well engineered. The Maverick by contrast did not impress.

  • @aarontempleton2735
    @aarontempleton2735 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One reason we don’t see “those” (catalytic converters) anymore is because someone chopped it off with a reciprocating saw and stole it.

    • @calholli
      @calholli ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7:44 .. I'm fairly certain that is just a pre-resonator, it changes the tone of the exhaust before it gets to the muffler. The actual CAT-converters are more upstream and can be seen in your footage, up closer to the engine.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jordan is just referring to the fact that Munro does mostly EV teardowns now.

  • @juliem1421
    @juliem1421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our 1995 Tacoma had fixed 2 piston calipers up front; thought it was interesting but maybe more robust all around for a truck

  • @calholli
    @calholli ปีที่แล้ว

    7:44 .. I'm fairly certain that is just a pre-resonator, it changes the tone of the exhaust before it gets to the muffler. The actual CAT-converters are more upstream and can be seen in your footage, up closer to the engine. At least that's how it is on Ford's.

    • @stephenj4937
      @stephenj4937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct; you can see the actual cat stuffed further up the engine bay at 7:55. The oxygen sensor that is visible is the downstream sensor.

    • @calholli
      @calholli ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenj4937 Precisely.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a sensor in the pipe between the catalyst and this device... is a sensor used downstream of the catalytic converter, or is this a second stage converter?

  • @BlazerRox
    @BlazerRox ปีที่แล้ว

    What's with the purple and blue hue coating on the bolts?

    • @homiecwhite1496
      @homiecwhite1496 ปีที่แล้ว

      Match marks so you can tell if a bolt/nut is coming loose. Also used as a QA function to show it was supposedly torqued to spec.

  • @narayanalee
    @narayanalee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOO WOO WOO !!!

  • @akhtarkh
    @akhtarkh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its not cast iron, its forged steel. Hard to tell the difference at a glance because forged steel has flashing lines like cast iron.

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frame: not sure if it is still true, US manufacturer Dana used to build the frames for the Toyota pickups.

  • @ryandoyle4344
    @ryandoyle4344 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pretty sure, Tundra & 4Runner both have mechanical fans; perhaps since engine can not run w/o cooling. It appears to be a reliability factor

    • @123devinzz1
      @123devinzz1 ปีที่แล้ว

      the mechanical fan is much more reliable. especially on a vehicle that is expected to ford water if ever offroaded which alot of toyota owners seem to do.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fan is not needed for the engine to run, until the coolant is hot enough to need cooling and the road speed is low enough the a fan is needed to assist airflow. Much of the time, the fan is not needed.

  • @ffabcd5091
    @ffabcd5091 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another reason for using a engine driven fan is for mud. Electronic fans can get clogged with mud and jam them. Might not be as much of a problem anymore but there is still that potential for failure. There might be a video out there demonstrating that.

  • @celeron55
    @celeron55 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The viscous clutch fan is probably very powerful in moving air when a *lot* of cooling is needed. It seems to me this vehicle is made for towing heavy stuff so it makes sense.

    • @stephenj4937
      @stephenj4937 ปีที่แล้ว

      The downside is you don't get much cooling when you are at a stop (or in stop and go traffic).

    • @celeron55
      @celeron55 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenj4937 You don't need a lot of cooling in slow moving traffic or when stopped though, as the engine isn't working hard, and especially as it's a hybrid.

  • @williambasinger5859
    @williambasinger5859 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You need to go look at some older trucks because the chain for the spare tire has been around for over 40 years

  • @MEU2k
    @MEU2k ปีที่แล้ว

    No body mentioned why extra 4 jacks are mounted to lift the truck, is this for safety of the presenter underneath the truck?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. They are safety stands which Munro staff use when working under a vehicle on a hoist, at least on-camera. This is not generally considered necessary, but is good practice for safety.

  • @bradwebb4208
    @bradwebb4208 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the tundra shares the same chassis as the 200series that isn't sold in America? This would explain the multiple brackets as the two vehicles have different suspension systems

    • @manroshansingh
      @manroshansingh ปีที่แล้ว

      it shares the same platform with the current LC300 Land Cruiser

  • @homiecwhite1496
    @homiecwhite1496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hanging chain for the spare is normal. Tacomas have it too. Toyota's been doing this for many years. You better fluid film the entire mechanism and exercise it periodically, or it'll rust in place.

  • @sudeeptaghosh
    @sudeeptaghosh ปีที่แล้ว

    Why they don’t put 1 catalytic converter where the exhaust from both bank murge?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They want the catalyst as close as possible to the engine to get at the exhaust where it is hottest. Some engines have the catalyst integrated with the exhaust manifold; this is more convetional.

  • @calholli
    @calholli ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "If you can't make it perfect, make it adjustable" ---

  • @northerntoyota7584
    @northerntoyota7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All Toyotas I’ve ever owned have that chain hanging down. Never an issue.

  • @CajunGreenMan
    @CajunGreenMan ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys gonna do the Porsche Taycan?

  • @keithb7981
    @keithb7981 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With the intermingling of aluminum and steel parts, what are the potentials for electrolysis corrosion and how is this mitigated, or is it a non-issue

    • @mrm1885
      @mrm1885 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don't care about it. Also you clearly see many places where the rust will grow fast.

    • @adon8672
      @adon8672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the aluminium is heavily anodized (covered with a layer of aluminium oxide) so that it's effectively a very poor conductor on the outside. Galvanic corrosion becomes a non-issue.

    • @keithb7981
      @keithb7981 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adon8672 another TH-cam troll with no content another idiotic 12 IQ statement.

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrm1885 nonsense!!!! They know what they are doing! Your corrosion bullshit won’t happen

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adon8672 exactly

  • @vitocorleone3724
    @vitocorleone3724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The viscous coupling fan is less efficient than an electric fan; however, The application requires longevity. The viscous coupling is more dependable, and will “fail-on”.

  • @paulrichards3928
    @paulrichards3928 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Solid rear axle. Only an American dealer network could sell that old tech.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      almost All trucks in the US use a solid rear axle... The Lightning is IRS, I cant think of another.
      We use trucks for work, IRS is not as strong, and has way more parts and bushings to fail. And when you put a significant load on the rear.. it will squat, and with IRS the geometry is then significantly changed and will cause tire wear. That is not an issue with a solid axle.
      Go ride in a Ram 1500 with solid axle.. rides smooth as can be.
      The bad ride and hopping around on bumps associated with solid axles in the old days is mostly gone.

    • @123devinzz1
      @123devinzz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      superior setup in a truck application despite what these ev manufacturers will tell you.

    • @robertpsotka3525
      @robertpsotka3525 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That solid axle will outlast any independent suspension

    • @matoolie
      @matoolie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Tundra uses the same TNGA-F chassis architecture as the Land Cruiser. Only a solid axle could meet Toyota’s design, performance, particularly off-road, requirements of the Land Cruiser. As the Land Cruiser is their top of the line 4x4 and drives design, everything else using the TNGA-F chassis will be solid axle. This includes the new Sequoia and upcoming next gen Tacoma and 4Runner, whereas the last two will have scaled down size TNGA-F chassis.

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s better than IRS for truck applications 😂🤣

  • @brianb-p6586
    @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    According to the owner's manual for the 2023 Tundra, the spare tire winch uses a chain, and there is no other "safety" chain. It looks like the winch chain has been wound down and something else is holding the tire (which would be strange), or the slack side of the chain is hanging down instead of being retained in the winch mechanism. You could have just cranked it down to check it out, without disassembling anything.

  • @willbarron888
    @willbarron888 ปีที่แล้ว

    LMFAO! Opened with a Nissan truck ad by YT with over 200K “runaway roll away” recall by Nissan Trucks currently…

  • @shortaybrown
    @shortaybrown ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice vid! Over $70,000 seems like too much money for that.

    • @calholli
      @calholli ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everything is too much money now

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prop shaft: good to finally see aluminum. Ford was using aluminum by y2K, but Toyota continued to use steel.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว

      This Hybrid makes a lot of Torque... 437HP and 583 Torque, That may have been why.

  • @robertrobertson5120
    @robertrobertson5120 ปีที่แล้ว

    No skid plate?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      They probably removed whatever shield is on the bottom - they normally do for these hoist reviews so that the features of the vehicle can be seen.

  • @SabrToothSqrl
    @SabrToothSqrl ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we not gonna talk about the purple bolts?!

  • @SS-yw7vo
    @SS-yw7vo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you put a car from the seventies up on the hoist and show us the lack of safety?

  • @tylermckinnon4697
    @tylermckinnon4697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2022 tundra and the chain on the spare is hanging on my truck too. I used a bungee cord to hold it up on the rim of the spare because I was worried about it hanging like that

  • @mech-E
    @mech-E ปีที่แล้ว

    They use fixed calipers on the tacoma and drums on the back

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Spare tire chain: it is a safety backup chain. Exactly same as my Tacoma. Surprisingly hasn’t caused NVH or dinged up the spare rim.

    • @TheIrongutz
      @TheIrongutz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually the chain rides through a winch mechanism and gets shorter as the tire lowers to the ground, it’s part of the lowering system and not a safety system.

    • @wtmayhew
      @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheIrongutz Thanks for the correction. I falsely assumed the cable was still there. The tire retention device was replaced when Toyota did the frame swap on my truck, and I believe the original mech. was a cable reel. The links I see hanging down on mine actually appear to be quite a bit thicker than the chain seen in this video.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sandy says less brackets/bolts is better. YAY America !

  • @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
    @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder how much the Ford E Lightning will cost Toyota in sales , and the coming E.Silverados and of course we know approximately how many are waiting for their CYBRTRK .Is Toyota going to have a Nokia moment?

    • @thomas735
      @thomas735 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electric trucks are a scam. No one is buying them, except enthusiasts.

    • @lolotus4borderless
      @lolotus4borderless ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am wondering about the fact same thing

    • @lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269
      @lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take a look at the real world towing range on the new Etrucks. It's not a lot. But if the majority of the segment gets sold to nontowing buyers, that might steal Tundra sales. So idk....

  • @cengeb
    @cengeb ปีที่แล้ว

    every vw I have had the last 20 years is electric radiator fans,variable speed

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have all had transverse engines, so an engine-driven fan is not feasible and an electric fan is used.

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianb-p6586 Even our Audis which had inline engines, all have electric fans, fans have been electric for decades

  • @alecstetzer2018
    @alecstetzer2018 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lexus LX570 has the spare chain too. I will ziptie it up

  • @roddlez
    @roddlez ปีที่แล้ว

    And I'll show you
    You want the moves like Jordan
    I got the moves like Jordan
    I got the mooooooves like Jordan…

  • @jamesriley8752
    @jamesriley8752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone notice how this truck is probably just as old as the Maverick, yet NO rust. Interesting, not.

  • @kendavis1198
    @kendavis1198 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressed with the Absence of "RUST" on the Undercarriage!!! Unlike my 2022 F-150 That's Brand NEW????? Now, I gotta take of that Issue myself??? "O" Well. And what's up with that Large Piece of COTTON at the Front Diff Area??? Is that supposed to be a SKID PLATE??? I hardly think so??

  • @chrissavage5966
    @chrissavage5966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Presumably most manufacturers are doing the bare minimum development on ICE/Hybrid vehicles given the way things are going?

    • @normt430
      @normt430 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not Toyota! EV trucks will be selling more than this before the first redesign.

  • @andreandre1051
    @andreandre1051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍

  • @hedydd2
    @hedydd2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This looks very like my 1998 Land Cruiser 100, including the chain for the spare wheel crane. Not a lot of development seems to have taken place over the last 25 years.

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol…… what do you expect!! A large casting!! Stfu!!! Toyota trucks have always been made to be modified and I mean all Toyota trucks and 4x4 SUVs unlike other brands. You see the global use of Toyota worldwide right!!

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also there are a lot of me stufs on that truck from chassis to engine, gearbox, interior……

  • @KeatMP
    @KeatMP ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love seeing some traditional ice vehicles on the channel - Toyota knows how to build vehicles that last forever. Cool to see a walk through of one of their products.

  • @johns818
    @johns818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:22 if you're doing truck review videos like this you should at least know that it's called independent suspension. Also, if you're wondering why they use different types of metals on different parts of the chassis.. it's because some sections need to be flexible, while others need to be rigid.

  • @seymorefact4333
    @seymorefact4333 ปีที่แล้ว

    🇺🇲 I'm still buying a Tundra over its comps. Toyota trucks all over the globe. In wars, providing transport for the poor with little issues and easy fix.

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brakes: similar design on my ‘05 Tacoma 4x4 with 6-bolt wheels. It is a problematic 4-piston caliper design prone to sticking pistons.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope they improved the caliper internally since then....

    • @frankkeel8410
      @frankkeel8410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Change the fluid every year no problems

    • @wtmayhew
      @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frankkeel8410 I have done the required fluid maintenance and still experienced stuck pistons on the replacement calipers I installed. The replacement calipers were Dorman reman parts. I have read that there are two possible piston materials, either phenolic or steel. I don’t know what I have as I bolted them on without disassembling to see. Also, the cast iron rusts pretty terribly. I tried to get the plated replacements, but nobody has them. I will give props on the design otherwise; it is much easier to replace the pads/rotors than on many vehicles… if the calipers aren’t too corroded: fine in Southwest US, but not so good for the Midwest where winter road chemicals are used.

    • @wtmayhew
      @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another stupid thing I ran into. Then font transfer case and axle has breathers on hoses mounted up high: good. The rear axle has a breather screwed into the top of the left casting. This is exposed to road chemicals and may rust shut - mine did. Pressure builds up in the axle and forces gear lube out past the oil seals into the drum brakes, personal experience. Some owners have installed a PVC barb in the threaded breather hole and run a hose up to the left tail light housing and installed the breather on the end of the hose inside the tail light. (Haven’t done that… yet.)

    • @frankkeel8410
      @frankkeel8410 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wtmayhew I would source a toyota rebuilding kit.

  • @ILLEagle_1
    @ILLEagle_1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot less rust on this bottom than the Ford Maverick.

    • @calholli
      @calholli ปีที่แล้ว

      It only cost 4x the price too.. that's a bargain.

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calholli it’s 4x the truck as well

    • @calholli
      @calholli ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flight2k5 I don't even consider the Maverick a "truck".. It's an SUV with a bed built on the back. In Australia they call these a UTE. Either way, a Maverick and a Honda Ridgeline are not 'trucks".

  • @cengeb
    @cengeb ปีที่แล้ว

    rotors are tiny for a large vehicle....my vw golf r has big calipers and rotors for a small vehicle..which is why I always get 100,000 mikes out of brakes, and stop fantastic..brakes matter

  • @frankkeel8410
    @frankkeel8410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A GAS GUSSLER in who needs it!

  • @rkgsd
    @rkgsd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With a this illustration of quality engineering, I can see why Toyota has been slow on EVs compared to Hyundai, but for that kind of money (70k), you have to look at the Lightning.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a loaded model.. You can get a Tundra for less.. Yes they are expensive.. But 20 years from now and 500,000 miles later.. It will probably still be on the road.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kevin K
      Keep in mind that the majority of people who own pickup trucks never tow anything. The lightning works perfectly for that purpose. But if you got a tow anything more than a small boat or jet skis any amount of distance, you definitely need a gas truck.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kevin K
      Not disagreeing with you but the reality is people like big trucks for a variety of reasons. Often they like the interior space and the occasional trip to home Depot.
      And honestly smaller pickup trucks except for the Maverick hybrid really don't get much better gas mileage than the bigger trucks.
      For me the Toyota would be probably the most reliable you could get. The tundra has a reputation for being quite long-lived.

    • @kens97sto171
      @kens97sto171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kevin K
      Look at the sales data. Ford sales about a million f-150s per year.
      You can get a EV truck for a lot less money than that. Perhaps not right now. But there are lower trims of the F-150 lightning.
      I agree with you financially it doesn't make a ton of sense.
      People like to have one vehicle that can do everything, even if some of those things are probably things they will never do.
      Take a look at how popular the Jeep Wrangler is? A ton of them never get used off-road at all. People just like them because of the style and knowing that they could take it off road if they wanted to.
      Buying a car is not just about doing the sensible thing, it tends to be an emotional decision blended with practicality and need.

  • @02SCDC5
    @02SCDC5 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a lot of cutting to fit 37s

  • @mvcharisma2968
    @mvcharisma2968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta love the fact that a turbo replacement will require the cab being lifted off the frame, this will be a throwaway truck after 10 years

    • @mvcharisma2968
      @mvcharisma2968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kevin K yes all the HD pickup are that way, I wasn’t comparing comparing apples and oranges. I was just waiting for a Toyota fanboy to justify and make excuses for a bad design😂
      Just like when they try and justify how reliable they are, yet the multiple class action lawsuits on Toyota frames rusting spanning over 30 years into the present day and multiple other issues they have. They certainly aren’t any more reliable than anything else on the road, but their fanboys are reliable in how annoying they are 😂

    • @mvcharisma2968
      @mvcharisma2968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kevin K that must be why nobody with a fleet of trucks operates Toyotas. Here on the oil fields in Alaska it’s all American trucks. Toyotas don’t last up here

    • @mvcharisma2968
      @mvcharisma2968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kevin K Yeah, patriotism is why only American trucks survive in severe fleet duties 🙄 That’s why only exterminators buy Toyotas for their fleets and anyone who needs to do a rough job everyday buys American. The trucks with the lowest cost of ownership over 10 years are American, the Silverado and the F150.

    • @mvcharisma2968
      @mvcharisma2968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kevin K real world numbers don’t lie, we’ve run Toyotas and they don’t last in tough conditions here in Alaska.
      Sorry it hurts your fanboy feelings. Toyotas chew through 4WD systems up here. Transfer cases don’t last, small yokes, busted u-joints (amongst many other things) all things that leave a person stranded to die up here where there’s no cell service.
      You have been defending the crappy design and engineering on a Toyota from the beginning, and you just can’t get over the fact that your precious little mall crawler isn’t made for real work. But you don’t actually depend on your truck like people up here do, so of course you would have no clue about any real world data. You fanboys are all the same, keyboard off-roaders that have zero real world experience.

  • @RogerM88
    @RogerM88 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    With current battery technology, hybrids and plugin hybrids make more economical sense for trucks, in terms of energy efficiency.

    • @TundishSkul
      @TundishSkul ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, but people dont want to hear that.

    • @ericedin8362
      @ericedin8362 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes more sense for cars too. On my second prius (168000 miles). Drove first one over 250000 miles. Very low maintenance cost and no worries on long trips. Batteries need another 10 to 20 years of improvement in performance and cost before I'll give up my hybrid.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      This truck is available as a hybrid.

  • @williewalker8048
    @williewalker8048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toyota is a fantastic automaker, however, from what Jordan pointed out and from my limited knowledge of manufacturing, Toyota is not progressing very fast into the future.
    While I love our 17-year-old Toyota, it's the same platform of the one Top Gear unsuccessfully tried to destroy😆, I am a bit concerned with Toyota's future.
    Another great video Jordan, many thanks for your expertise.

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol….. Who said Toyota isn’t evolving!?

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland7461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you haven't learned from this, that's on you.