One thing to remember is that in Sweden the ground is very rarely brown because in woodland much of the ground is coverd in moss. So it works abit better There than in a Forest like this One. Great vid btw!
the ground in forests was brown before the climate change in late 80s - Now its mossy due to increased humidity and pollution eg. more grass on greeny mosses even on hills (im talking about central sweden)
The 'black' pattern is actually not black, its very very dark blue/grey if you look closely. Why, because unless there's been a fire there is not much pitch black in the terrain. The cap is not military issue. His jacket is the M90 light (M90L), not the standard battle uniform. Its for summer in Sweden or peacekeeping in tropical areas. The standard M90 jacket has more pockets and is thicker. M90 standard is 50/50 cotton/polyester, the M90L is 35/65 cotton/polyester. If your material is different its probably a copy of the camo but not same a military issue. M90 is very durable and excellent in Swedish pine forests and should work well in Northern US and Canada. Greetings from Sweden
Aside from the velcro with with the flag in the front it looks very much like the cap we have in the military. I think they might have added the velcro themselves, considering that they switched the flag for a texas one in the same size for the hide and seek. Are you perhaps thinking of the solid green m/59 cap?
@@borktheswedishchef1190 Interesting.....an American gives a Favorable and Honest review of your camo, and they are ignorant. Brent and Bruce have both done many Honest reviews of camouflage, from all over the world. These Camo's are probably, mostly reproductions. So they won't be exactly as issued. That makes them ignorant? I've never heard them say they are experts in these camo's. That makes them ignorant? They have always been Fair and Professional, but that makes them ignorant?? Sounds to me that the only one who is Ignorant and Arrogant is You! Please stop embarrassing the Good People of Sweden, and go away.
@@Panabudo Yea I thought that was quite childish. The cap is not a military issue though. the military caps of the Swedish army are quite how do I put this, "Fucked". But yea doesn't really matter. Greetings from Sweden.
The pattern is really effective, i have several times almost tripped over other soldiers while i was running in the forest during exercises. In the terrain it was suppose to be used with and with dark OD combat vest and additional masking from pine trees and other native plants on the helmet and on the back of the combat vest i feel very confident while wearing it. The M90L jacket he is wearing is a warm weather jacket and not intended for use in combat. The M90F (standard) jacket and pants are a couple of shades darker and thicker with more pockets on the jacket.
A thing to keep in mind is also that the Swedish forests have a darker green to it, generally speaking. So it doesn't fit bright coloured forests as good
Though the pattern is correct, the uniform itself is incomplete and worn incorrectly. I hope I don't come across as the biggest jerk off here, I just thought you might like some input or even just some more info on the subject. That specific jacket is meant for jungle areas or warm climates and is very rarely used in field in Sweden. Mostly used by instructors or on base. Also I have no idea what kind of a hat that is, our hats have a very different design and no flag. Lastly the fold of the sleeves should be done in a special way so that the pattern faces outwards, and you don't get that ugly white fold. Unless you're in the Amphibious Corps, they have a tradition of folding it that way, I don't know why really. I realize that the video was meant to showcase the actual pattern, and for that purpose it was great! Just thought I'd share some info on the uniform if anyone was curious. Good job!
Thanks for the input, others have also commented on the same subject. As you stated already though our aim here is to show case the pattern itself. BUT... Still appreciate you guys bringing that to the forefront because others who watch may want to know. Thanks again.
What can be said about the M90 is that just like British DPM there has been several different variations of it, even though it was always supposed to be the same. Different batches and different generations of uniforms differ greatly in the general colours used, from uniforms that go mostly in muted earth tones to ones that have light and bright, almost neon greens. This is not intenational or done on purpose, regardless of what some rumours say. The best colour schemes for Northern Europea terrain was on the M90 uniforms made in the very early 1990's or even late 1980's. Some newer incarnations have very light and bright green on them and would probably be great in tropical jungle and in decidous forrest during the most green summer season, but not that good elsewhere.Overall the M90 has a very similar colour and overall "scheme" to danish M84 and to Cadpat, even though the patterns are very different with M90 having big splinters and angles, M84 basically being a WW2 German dot pattern with green and black and cadpat a pixelated modern pattern. They all work very well in similar environments.
this got to be my favorite video yet. Both of you did really well concealed. I like the Swedish camo and I think it could work well in the Pacific Northwest in the Springtime/early summer. Thanks for this video.
Yup! Pine forests is where it excells! 10 of us where running a dry drill next to a path in the woods back in the days when some old guy came along the path with his dog. We took two steps into the forest before he spotted us and just sat still to see if he would notice us and he just walked right past us. Scared the shit out of him when the last guy said "Good morning" and he turned around to see all ten of us waving :D
Great pattern and excellent video showing the benefits and contrasts between the two patterns. Always enjoy your presentation along with you friends who bring their patterns into the mix. Outstanding Gents!
That is actually M90 Light uniform, meant for Jungle and hotter climate or Swedish summer :) The material is called Varpasin and is quite good, made is Sri-lanka. That field shirt is rarely issued to anyone in Sweden, most common is M90 jacket and that is actually cousin with American M65 jacket but with napoleon pockets instead and no hood. Reason for that is that we took the design from Norway, and at the time, Norway used specially designed M65 jackets in their camo. M90 is not bad camo at all but it kinds defeats itself with thet khaki color and dark blue. Better option would be to match Finnish M05 colors.
Jpå I had two standard m90 jackets and one m90 light jacket issued in basic, but then again my cousin wore a motor overall for two weeks before being issued anything with camouflage on it so I guess it just depends on where you go for training. shame they didnt review the standard jacket since that one has all the pockets and functions, m90 light is just a office shirt basically.
EloTh eMan my self and everyone i know have 2 standard jackets and 1 m90 light jacket, and the m90 light is way more comfortable during summer, bad thing is that it's not as thick material as the standard m90 jacket.
Cool never knew this lol. Too bad they don't make an official M90 parka like the KSK smock. The standard jacket is shit in my opinion, parka without hood lol.
Excellent video! You know I'm a great fan of the swedish m90 camo and its comparisson with the all-time classic m81 makes it even better. The next stop would be the M90K (desert variant for M90) during the winter you'll love it!
I bought the M90 from the Finnish surplus site a while back. It was a bit pricey to get it here, but I liked how it looked, and thought it would do well in the coastal range areas of California. I used the pants deer hunting last month in the Sierra Nevada (D zone -5), and they have good water resistance (at least when newish). I compare it to a canvas like a brand new pair of dickies has. Time will tell how long the stiffness and water resistance lasts. It is definitely not as tan/brown as the M81 woodland, but it didn't seem to hurt the performance all that much in the video. Thanks for the great video! For hunting last month, I wore the British MTP, then the M90 pants on cooler rainy days. I have a versatile set of affordable camo for hunting now thanks to you all your videos and work
Hey! To maintain the fabric water resistant properties of the fabric you must washed them(as usual with regular detergent) but then tumble on really high heat 140 degrees Celsius! It closes the fibers of the fabric that makes it both waterproof and gives your a CBRN protection against, for example, gas and fire / napalm. No other so-called waterproofing needed. The pants or your uniform, will not lose their properties and do not break as long as you live if you take care of them. Good luck deer hunting. :-)
The m90 is really good, like many said that is a summer jacket and not the field jacket. But it is working to while the chest pocket is not so well used when you have a battle west on, for that the field jacket is better. thanks for doing a m90.
You know what would be interesting. If he tested these camos at night on NIR. That would actually be really helpful. Keep up the good work Brent and thanks for continuing to do this! This is very helpful information.
Many comments concern the folding of the sleeves, not rolling of the sleeves. I don't know exactly how Europeans fold their sleeves, but, it may be like how the US Army folded sleeves when the BDU uniforms were worn. First, the cuffs of the sleeves were turned inside out then slid to the armpit area. The entire sleeve is inside out. Second, roll the lower portion of the sleeve to just above the elbow joint. Third, turn the wrist cuff back so the outside of the sleeve is on the outside again. When finished only the outside of the sleeve will be showing. Never saw Marines do it this way. Only the Army did. US Army regulations said it was to enable you to quickly pull the sleeves down for either concealment, or, to cover exposed skin in case of chemical attack. Hope there is somebody from Sweden, or anywhere in Europe, to comment to see if this technique is similar.
Hi, a swedish military here. You are completely right about the foldings! I give you a link, which is SOLDF (they use to say it's the "bible" for the swedish army. It stands for in swedish "soldaten i fält", which means "the soldier out in the field/terrain". On that website they show for example how to wear a M90 thin version, www.soldf.com/faltuni90_l.html. Have a good one
Hi You can order it very simple here in sweden and ship to the US. Let me know and a give U some links. And now we just released the patent and in two years Swedish military will change the pattern
When i did my service in the Swedish military during one summer. My buddy went off the road into the bushes 5-10m from me to take a piss. and when i looked at him to see if he was done, he was gone. I did not see him if he was completly still. It was when he moved my eye catched him. It must have been because of the dark and light colors on the pattern. It was sunny so the dark colors just looked like shadows of the leaves.
In the real world it is a field jacket, or combat shirt if you like, often used by professional soldiers in Sweden, if the season is right or if they feel like it.
Nato is even worse, thousands of European and American soldiers are killed because of Nato. I have been to the funeral ceremony of German bundeswehr soldiers who were killed in the middle east couple of years ago, more than a hundred caskets. What do we gain with Nato? nothing. Only the USA government does, in advancing their masters' agenda, Israel of course. We are mere tools to be used and sacrificed by them, to fight and die for their personal wars, and what is argueably worst of all, they promote this bullshit agenda of European separation between Nato countries and Russia, stirring up animosity and promoting conflict between Europeans, just like they did in ww2, and have always done. Because that's their whole business model and mode of operation, creating conflicts and animosity between Europeans and promoting conflicts on both sides, then reaping the benefits and profits from our deaths and suffering. All while enslaving us with their banking interest and national debt crap. They created bolshevism, they are the reason the millions of europeans were killed in ww2, and are being killed right now the jews have focused their whole culture and history ever since they had first contact with Europeans and infiltrated Europe, in trying to destroy us, they have been attacking us ever since, and disguising themselves as ''philanthropists'' and ''humanitarians'', all while destroying the european identity and national sentiment with their media
90L is the jacket everyone wants to use, but their officers won't allow it because "reasons". Some seem to think that firing your weapon with your sleeves folded up will kill you instantly. smh
Most "woodland" camo is effective with different "shapes" or "patterns" of greens, and depending on area different shades of brown.. I like the effectiveness of the camo color combination of medium slightly dark green, OD green, a slightly olive green, with Coyote brown and (M81) darker redish brown. There was a jacket i got long time ago second hand one time with those kind of colors, worked well for many seasons, it worn out, faded some. Was an effective "bdu type" jacket. Worn it with brown pants. Some areas brighter greens an lighter brown work better then others. M90 & M81 have been and are still effective in select environments.. (All brown deer are also effective in environments.. ) This was a good video, i like these videos an often times catch myself re-watchin a video multiple times. Wish some of these camo patterns mr Brent come across were more widely available, as they would be good for hunting.. Most hunting patterns i see arent old military surplus like say the 80s an 90s used to be. You used to find old OD green Vietnam camo or M81 type camo sorta cheap and i dont see that as the case today. And the county im in dont have a surplus store. In the 70s-90s i used to see almost a surplus store or 3 within an hours driving distance..times have sure changed.
As we are changing seasons and colors, I have used British MTP trousers to blend into the grass and the jacket to blend into the trees. It works well whilst hunting.
There is a little button strap loop at the front end of each leg so you can attach the pants to your shoelaces. Keeps the pants secure and dirt/snow out 👍🏻
Everything about our military is top notch. Sad budget Cuts for many years have ruind our capabilities. But we have reinstated the draft so here is hoping things will change.
The M90 looks good. But dang that woodland camo...... Remind me again why we ever got rid of it? Also nice to see a full color one in the field. In the Army we saved our new BDU’s for garrison. And promptly ignored the labels and starched the hell out of them. Just before they fell apart and were faded to hell and gone they were promoted to field uniforms. So everybody in the field was wearing what by then we called snow camo.....
As a Canadian, the feature about the M90 that interests me the most is that it is reversible; with the light coloured side being for use in the Winter. That fact right there makes m90 one of the most versatile patterns available in my opinion.
His rolled up sleeves are lighter because he did not roll them up correctly :) You are supposed to fold them in a way where the lighter inside is not shown. If you are interested in M90 wintercamo, there is actually a brand new winter uniform being tested at the swedish army ranger battlion. The winter camo has been pullover overalls since like the dawn of Sweden. For a few weeks however, individuals have been spotted with the new uniform at the battalion. I do not know if this uniform will become standard issue or what will happen to it but look them up on instagram @armensjbat :)
really enjoyed the video thanks for taking the time to do these very informative and entertaining. happy up coming holidays from my family to yall's down here in kyle tx.
So I've been reading some of the comments and I want to correct a few things. Some are saying that is not a standard issue cap. To me it looks like a standard M90 cap with velcro for flag placement sewed on. We don't have that, but otherwise the cap looks right. Sometimes though you will see COs and NCOs using the old m/59 cap which is solid green and has flaps on the outside that can be folded down to protect the ears from wind. The M90 cap has those flaps on the inside. Some are saying that the M90 Light jacket, which this is, is only issued to officers and troops doing peace keeping operations in warmer climates. That used to be the case, however as a member of the Homeguard (we always get all the new equipment last), I can confirm that everyone should have it now. Some are saying that the M90 Light jacket is not used in the field. The climate in Sweden is warming up and more soldiers are starting to use it in the field, at least in southern Sweden. Though there's a lot of northern Sweden out there and I don't know about them. Lastly, you have indeed folded up the arms wrong in the beginning of the video. The inside should not be shown. The trick to it is to make _one_ long fold where to pull the edge of the arm as far up as you can. Then you grab the bottom where the fabric was folded and fold it up again 2/3 of the way. You then pull the edge of the arm (which is still up by the shoulder) down over the new fold. This should expose the outside of the arm over the folded up fabric. Thank you for the great video!
99% of the time it is the shadows that give away a position. Make sure that light hits your surfaces from the enemies viewpoint. Example, leaning away from enemy.
You are quite right in thinking northern USA, Stockholm (capitol of Sweden) is located about 59° N, I think Maine is in those regions of USA. Nice vid thou, hope you didn't swet too much!
I just love how people are bitching about that the uniform is "incorrect and worn wrong and not standard uniform" etc.. 1 he's not a official swe soldier 2- that uniform can be bought by anyone from paintballers to soft air gun players and even hunters tend to use it while hunting. there are a lot of options for the so called "hobby" users to choose between so that the official standard uniform get's left alone and only used by the military, the purpose was to show how effective the camo is nothing more nothing less(read the title and info).
As far as the patterns that you have shown so far in that environment I believe that those are 2 of the best. I would love to see how some of the patterns hold up out in the desert south west.
I see alot of incorrect information in the comments. First of all the M90 Light was originally called M90 Lätt(light) FN(UN). As the name UN tells us it was made for personel in deployment to hotter areas, in this case, former Yugoslavia. After our deployment there it started to be issued to officers and since around 2009-2010 they started issuing it to all soldiers, including basic training and home guard. Regarding that "you are not allowed to use it in combat" or "it's for staff personel", it's not true. However it is made of a less durable material so it breaks more easily. The M90 Light pants are going away because of this reason since they were the ones getting destroyed from usage during field drills and combat drills. Basically it is in the same situation as the shell garments. Local rules apply. Most, however are allowed to use these as they please.
Dont forget that this camo is made for swedish forrest where the ground is green with moss and shrubs and not ones with more brown forrest floors, aswell he has not alied proper head camo in the form of shrubs to conceal the outline of the head
Brent you should try the Slovenian multicam aka Slocam...also the older and a lot darker pattern of slovenia-oak leaves...you can watch some videos about those two on youtube...also check it out on camopedia.org Great job with the patterns, love that stuff! Greetings from Slovenia!
I like the parts in the video when your trying to spot the soldiers in the forest and they open fire at you before you even spot them...😎👍i think both camoflauge patterns is very effective ...🇹🇹
The M90 pattern is made for boreal forrest, and that hat is not original swedish military. This uniform is our light version, it is made for warmer climate, or summer in Sweden.
I meant where you have two or more patterns side by side. Particularly patterns that are very similar or were used during the same time period and conflict.
As TH-cam's greatest authority on the effectiveness of modern camouflage patterns - a noble and important subject - I'd be interested in what you think on mono-colour uniforms. The Israelis and the Austrians seem to have done fine with them. Some of the recent Russian patterns also look almost unicolour. Are multi-colour uniforms really that much of an advantage? Or is it mostly fashion?
Like many others have commented, the M90L is not meant for combat use. I wouldn’t wear it in combat even if they allowed it - because it isn’t fire-retardant like the standard M90 is.
This however is NOT an official swedish army m90 uniform, this is from a large batch that reached the civilian market a few years ago and has been sold worldwide ever since. Its kind of a mystery where it came from. My guess is that it's a batch that was in fact rejected by the swedish army. The colors are too dark compared to a genuine item, they're not marked with the "Three crowns" label, and also think that the sizing is different from the real stuff. That said, I actually have one of these jackets, and its a very well made jacket of high quality, but not genuine military issue.
I find it difficult to determine the effectiveness of a pattern by just looking at it. This pattern I would had sworn had far too defined shapes and colors to work well. When you actually get out in the woods though, it actually works rather well. That hat gave him away a few times though, ha. Very defined shape. I kind of like that A2 set-up you have there. Very classic combat AR set-up with the heavier barrel.
I've had M90 and M90K patterns for quite a while and used them in many different areas. It is a common thing that people look at them and say "What is this???" And then its effectiveness prove them wrong in the field...
PIne forest pattern, look at all the black, it needs a thick canopy with lots of deep shadows. I bet it looks good on NVG though, probably very effective at night.
enjoyable and informational video, however I was surprised how fast I could pick out the ball cap and the other headgear, also need to figure out a way to breakup the silhouette of the backpacks. With just watching a few minutes and very little training I could pick them out about 70% or above in about 5 seconds
Brent, your M81 woodland seems a little... Different than my BDU. Yours looks to have a lot more green and the black branches are thicker and more pronounced. Can you tell me a little about it?
They're one of my pair of Marine Corps issued utilities from years ago prior to us switching to MARPAT. They probably look different to you because they are faded from years of use.
Hey mate would it be possible to show all of Bruce's gear (webbing, chest rigs etc), I would to see how it differs from say your gear, i know I might be hard to do, but would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Brent if they ever make BDUs in the jungle digital camo the RDA wore in Jason Cameron's Avatar would u do a video on it? They're going to be making more movies soon so I thought I'd ask
I'm a bargain shopper man, I get what I can but I'm not going to break the bank to do so. That's the reason I don't have videos on the newer Multicam patterns.
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Hey, you 2 guys, go home and mow the lawn and trim the hedges....How about that project with refinishing her kitchen table that has been in the garage since last Summer? When are you getting to that?
I admit- it is the best possible quality i can imagine. They do issue also kind of smock, made of 50/50 370g canvas. That one is as good as British smocks.
In that enviroment, the U.S. camo was more effective. It has some lighter shades of color that matched the surroundings better. In a rain forest with some darker colors in the enviroment the Swedish may be better.
One small, but very nice, feature that Bruce forgot to mention (or perhaps it was missing on his pants) is the little piece of strong fabric with a button on it on the inside of the pants, which create a little loop. It is used to "hook onto" your shoelaces, which prevents your pants from accidentally getting pushed up over your boots when walking in deep snow, which of course is very common in Sweden.
One thing to remember is that in Sweden the ground is very rarely brown because in woodland much of the ground is coverd in moss. So it works abit better There than in a Forest like this One. Great vid btw!
Thanks for watching and commenting.
the ground in forests was brown before the climate change in late 80s - Now its mossy due to increased humidity and pollution eg. more grass on greeny mosses even on hills (im talking about central sweden)
The 'black' pattern is actually not black, its very very dark blue/grey if you look closely. Why, because unless there's been a fire there is not much pitch black in the terrain. The cap is not military issue. His jacket is the M90 light (M90L), not the standard battle uniform. Its for summer in Sweden or peacekeeping in tropical areas. The standard M90 jacket has more pockets and is thicker. M90 standard is 50/50 cotton/polyester, the M90L is 35/65 cotton/polyester. If your material is different its probably a copy of the camo but not same a military issue. M90 is very durable and excellent in Swedish pine forests and should work well in Northern US and Canada. Greetings from Sweden
its just ignorant americans beeing ignorant americans. nothing unusual^^
Aside from the velcro with with the flag in the front it looks very much like the cap we have in the military. I think they might have added the velcro themselves, considering that they switched the flag for a texas one in the same size for the hide and seek. Are you perhaps thinking of the solid green m/59 cap?
@@borktheswedishchef1190 Interesting.....an American gives a Favorable and Honest review of your camo, and they are ignorant. Brent and Bruce have both done many Honest reviews of camouflage, from all over the world. These Camo's are probably, mostly reproductions. So they won't be exactly as issued. That makes them ignorant? I've never heard them say they are experts in these camo's. That makes them ignorant? They have always been Fair and Professional, but that makes them ignorant?? Sounds to me that the only one who is Ignorant and Arrogant is You! Please stop embarrassing the Good People of Sweden, and go away.
@@Panabudo Yea I thought that was quite childish. The cap is not a military issue though. the military caps of the Swedish army are quite how do I put this, "Fucked". But yea doesn't really matter. Greetings from Sweden.
@Sceptical Walker det är synd att dem inte är i Sverige och testar, och han som använder m90L uniformen han använder fel utrustning
The pattern is really effective, i have several times almost tripped over other soldiers while i was running in the forest during exercises. In the terrain it was suppose to be used with and with dark OD combat vest and additional masking from pine trees and other native plants on the helmet and on the back of the combat vest i feel very confident while wearing it.
The M90L jacket he is wearing is a warm weather jacket and not intended for use in combat. The M90F (standard) jacket and pants are a couple of shades darker and thicker with more pockets on the jacket.
Yeah here in sweden we have alot of green. And a lot of green moss covering all forests. Also we have pine mixed with leaf trees.
A thing to keep in mind is also that the Swedish forests have a darker green to it, generally speaking. So it doesn't fit bright coloured forests as good
M90 camouflage is optimised for a distance of approximately 100 meters.
Though the pattern is correct, the uniform itself is incomplete and worn incorrectly. I hope I don't come across as the biggest jerk off here, I just thought you might like some input or even just some more info on the subject. That specific jacket is meant for jungle areas or warm climates and is very rarely used in field in Sweden. Mostly used by instructors or on base. Also I have no idea what kind of a hat that is, our hats have a very different design and no flag. Lastly the fold of the sleeves should be done in a special way so that the pattern faces outwards, and you don't get that ugly white fold. Unless you're in the Amphibious Corps, they have a tradition of folding it that way, I don't know why really.
I realize that the video was meant to showcase the actual pattern, and for that purpose it was great! Just thought I'd share some info on the uniform if anyone was curious. Good job!
Thanks for the input, others have also commented on the same subject. As you stated already though our aim here is to show case the pattern itself. BUT... Still appreciate you guys bringing that to the forefront because others who watch may want to know. Thanks again.
What can be said about the M90 is that just like British DPM there has been several different variations of it, even though it was always supposed to be the same. Different batches and different generations of uniforms differ greatly in the general colours used, from uniforms that go mostly in muted earth tones to ones that have light and bright, almost neon greens. This is not intenational or done on purpose, regardless of what some rumours say. The best colour schemes for Northern Europea terrain was on the M90 uniforms made in the very early 1990's or even late 1980's. Some newer incarnations have very light and bright green on them and would probably be great in tropical jungle and in decidous forrest during the most green summer season, but not that good elsewhere.Overall the M90 has a very similar colour and overall "scheme" to danish M84 and to Cadpat, even though the patterns are very different with M90 having big splinters and angles, M84 basically being a WW2 German dot pattern with green and black and cadpat a pixelated modern pattern. They all work very well in similar environments.
Just Yanks dressing up.
Sweden has three types of combat uniforms, Subarctic, desert and jungle
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Different models:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Military_Uniform
this got to be my favorite video yet. Both of you did really well concealed. I like the Swedish camo and I think it could work well in the Pacific Northwest in the Springtime/early summer. Thanks for this video.
that was so cool i love the clips where you hide and shoot near the camera it really helps put the perspective on philosophy of use
A good test for this would be in a pine forest.
Yup! Pine forests is where it excells! 10 of us where running a dry drill next to a path in the woods back in the days when some old guy came along the path with his dog. We took two steps into the forest before he spotted us and just sat still to see if he would notice us and he just walked right past us. Scared the shit out of him when the last guy said "Good morning" and he turned around to see all ten of us waving :D
Great pattern and excellent video showing the benefits and contrasts between the two patterns. Always enjoy your presentation along with you friends who bring their patterns into the mix. Outstanding Gents!
You should make a video on the Finnish M05 camo, it was just released to the market
Maybe in the future.
That is actually M90 Light uniform, meant for Jungle and hotter climate or Swedish summer :) The material is called Varpasin and is quite good, made is Sri-lanka. That field shirt is rarely issued to anyone in Sweden, most common is M90 jacket and that is actually cousin with American M65 jacket but with napoleon pockets instead and no hood. Reason for that is that we took the design from Norway, and at the time, Norway used specially designed M65 jackets in their camo.
M90 is not bad camo at all but it kinds defeats itself with thet khaki color and dark blue. Better option would be to match Finnish M05 colors.
the m90 light uniform shirt is actually issued to basically everyone, except people who are in basic training.
Jpå I stand corrected. Thought it was rare because i've never seen it myself and i live just next to an Air force base.
Jpå I had two standard m90 jackets and one m90 light jacket issued in basic, but then again my cousin wore a motor overall for two weeks before being issued anything with camouflage on it so I guess it just depends on where you go for training.
shame they didnt review the standard jacket since that one has all the pockets and functions, m90 light is just a office shirt basically.
EloTh eMan my self and everyone i know have 2 standard jackets and 1 m90 light jacket, and the m90 light is way more comfortable during summer, bad thing is that it's not as thick material as the standard m90 jacket.
Cool never knew this lol. Too bad they don't make an official M90 parka like the KSK smock. The standard jacket is shit in my opinion, parka without hood lol.
Great video and love this pattern and great comparison to the M81 in the field. Love the shooting in the ambush scene. Awesome videos as always.
Thanks
Excellent video! You know I'm a great fan of the swedish m90 camo and its comparisson with the all-time classic m81 makes it even better. The next stop would be the M90K (desert variant for M90) during the winter you'll love it!
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my favourite camos together in one brent video a dream come true greetings from germany
Ha, nice. Thanks brother.
I bought the M90 from the Finnish surplus site a while back. It was a bit pricey to get it here, but I liked how it looked, and thought it would do well in the coastal range areas of California. I used the pants deer hunting last month in the Sierra Nevada (D zone -5), and they have good water resistance (at least when newish). I compare it to a canvas like a brand new pair of dickies has. Time will tell how long the stiffness and water resistance lasts. It is definitely not as tan/brown as the M81 woodland, but it didn't seem to hurt the performance all that much in the video. Thanks for the great video! For hunting last month, I wore the British MTP, then the M90 pants on cooler rainy days. I have a versatile set of affordable camo for hunting now thanks to you all your videos and work
Hey! To maintain the fabric water resistant properties of the fabric you must washed them(as usual with regular detergent) but then tumble on really high heat 140 degrees Celsius!
It closes the fibers of the fabric that makes it both waterproof and gives your a CBRN protection against, for example, gas and fire / napalm.
No other so-called waterproofing needed. The pants or your uniform, will not lose their properties and do not break as long as you live if you take care of them.
Good luck deer hunting. :-)
Thank you Marc! I will take your advice for washing them and I hope they don't shrink too much. I may have to go on a diet if they do :-)
Dont worry, they will not shrink. Just wash them in 60 degees celsius.
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80 degrees F, about 27 C. That´s a really warm summer day i Sweden!
After this summer, do you still think that? :D
The m90 is really good, like many said that is a summer jacket and not the field jacket. But it is working to while the chest pocket is not so well used when you have a battle west on, for that the field jacket is better. thanks for doing a m90.
You know what would be interesting. If he tested these camos at night on NIR. That would actually be really helpful. Keep up the good work Brent and thanks for continuing to do this! This is very helpful information.
Thanks, unfortunately I do not have the capability of doing such a test.
M90 is NIR proof.
Brent, another vote here for you to test the M90 Desert Variant throughout the various seasons. Semper Fi brother!
The M90 uniform is ideal in the cooler greener Pacific Northwest. It has been my go to hunting camo for 17 years now.
Many comments concern the folding of the sleeves, not rolling of the sleeves. I don't know exactly how Europeans fold their sleeves, but, it may be like how the US Army folded sleeves when the BDU uniforms were worn. First, the cuffs of the sleeves were turned inside out then slid to the armpit area. The entire sleeve is inside out. Second, roll the lower portion of the sleeve to just above the elbow joint. Third, turn the wrist cuff back so the outside of the sleeve is on the outside again. When finished only the outside of the sleeve will be showing. Never saw Marines do it this way. Only the Army did. US Army regulations said it was to enable you to quickly pull the sleeves down for either concealment, or, to cover exposed skin in case of chemical attack. Hope there is somebody from Sweden, or anywhere in Europe, to comment to see if this technique is similar.
Hi, a swedish military here. You are completely right about the foldings! I give you a link, which is SOLDF (they use to say it's the "bible" for the swedish army. It stands for in swedish "soldaten i fält", which means "the soldier out in the field/terrain". On that website they show for example how to wear a M90 thin version, www.soldf.com/faltuni90_l.html. Have a good one
Navy and coast guard do the same
Great video to showcase the camo pattern. Thank you for making and posting the video. Much appreciated.
Appreciate it.
Nice vid. M90 is very effective. As you said it probably more effective in northern woodlands. Always thought that the Canadien CADPAT is awesome.
YES, this is one of my favorite and prefered camos out there. special thanks for a special vid guys!
Thanks
The M90 camo really blended in well.
Would love to see you test the M90 Desert pattern in fall/winter conditions
One of my favorite patterns! I wish it was more available here in the States.
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You can order it very simple here in sweden and ship to the US. Let me know and a give U some links. And now we just released the patent and in two years Swedish military will change the pattern
When i did my service in the Swedish military during one summer. My buddy went off the road into the bushes 5-10m from me to take a piss. and when i looked at him to see if he was done, he was gone. I did not see him if he was completly still. It was when he moved my eye catched him. It must have been because of the dark and light colors on the pattern. It was sunny so the dark colors just looked like shadows of the leaves.
love the shades!
i wear m90 trousers,but seems mine replica,and have different shade.
love that camo,and m90k too.
great vid!thanx a lot.
The one he uses in this video it’s also a replica
I'm picking some M90 up as soon :)
You know that you use the M90 Lätt ( M90 light) and is not a field jacket? we use the m90 jacket regular
In the real world it is a field jacket, or combat shirt if you like, often used by professional soldiers in Sweden, if the season is right or if they feel like it.
The M90L saved my life this summer where a standard M90 probably would have boiled me away...
Nato is even worse, thousands of European and American soldiers are killed because of Nato. I have been to the funeral ceremony of German bundeswehr soldiers who were killed in the middle east couple of years ago, more than a hundred caskets. What do we gain with Nato? nothing. Only the USA government does, in advancing their masters' agenda, Israel of course. We are mere tools to be used and sacrificed by them, to fight and die for their personal wars, and what is argueably worst of all, they promote this bullshit agenda of European separation between Nato countries and Russia, stirring up animosity and promoting conflict between Europeans, just like they did in ww2, and have always done. Because that's their whole business model and mode of operation, creating conflicts and animosity between Europeans and promoting conflicts on both sides, then reaping the benefits and profits from our deaths and suffering. All while enslaving us with their banking interest and national debt crap. They created bolshevism, they are the reason the millions of europeans were killed in ww2, and are being killed right now
the jews have focused their whole culture and history ever since they had first contact with Europeans and infiltrated Europe, in trying to destroy us, they have been attacking us ever since, and disguising themselves as ''philanthropists'' and ''humanitarians'', all while destroying the european identity and national sentiment with their media
90L is the jacket everyone wants to use, but their officers won't allow it because "reasons". Some seem to think that firing your weapon with your sleeves folded up will kill you instantly. smh
Most "woodland" camo is effective with different "shapes" or "patterns" of greens, and depending on area different shades of brown..
I like the effectiveness of the camo color combination of medium slightly dark green, OD green, a slightly olive green, with Coyote brown and (M81) darker redish brown.
There was a jacket i got long time ago second hand one time with those kind of colors, worked well for many seasons, it worn out, faded some. Was an effective "bdu type" jacket. Worn it with brown pants.
Some areas brighter greens an lighter brown work better then others.
M90 & M81 have been and are still effective in select environments..
(All brown deer are also effective in environments.. )
This was a good video, i like these videos an often times catch myself re-watchin a video multiple times.
Wish some of these camo patterns mr Brent come across were more widely available, as they would be good for hunting..
Most hunting patterns i see arent old military surplus like say the 80s an 90s used to be. You used to find old OD green Vietnam camo or M81 type camo sorta cheap and i dont see that as the case today. And the county im in dont have a surplus store. In the 70s-90s i used to see almost a surplus store or 3 within an hours driving distance..times have sure changed.
As we are changing seasons and colors, I have used British MTP trousers to blend into the grass and the jacket to blend into the trees. It works well whilst hunting.
good stuff worked pretty good guys,, finally built my first AR and joined the club
There is a little button strap loop at the front end of each leg so you can attach the pants to your shoelaces.
Keeps the pants secure and dirt/snow out 👍🏻
Everything about our military is top notch. Sad budget Cuts for many years have ruind our capabilities. But we have reinstated the draft so here is hoping things will change.
that is some good looking stuff. like woodlands run amuck
Both patterns did well. Thanks!
The M90 looks good. But dang that woodland camo...... Remind me again why we ever got rid of it? Also nice to see a full color one in the field. In the Army we saved our new BDU’s for garrison. And promptly ignored the labels and starched the hell out of them. Just before they fell apart and were faded to hell and gone they were promoted to field uniforms. So everybody in the field was wearing what by then we called snow camo.....
In the PNW it works really well in winter and spring. The darker greens match really well with douglas fir and other darker evergreens.
As a Canadian, the feature about the M90 that interests me the most is that it is reversible; with the light coloured side being for use in the Winter. That fact right there makes m90 one of the most versatile patterns available in my opinion.
smallpaul is small no its not reversible...
The one camoflage piece that are reversible is the helmet, it m90 on side and white on the other.
Ok. Thank you both for the correction. I must admit my knowledge of this pattern is only from internet searches and not first hand.
That's finnish M62, I believe.
His rolled up sleeves are lighter because he did not roll them up correctly :) You are supposed to fold them in a way where the lighter inside is not shown. If you are interested in M90 wintercamo, there is actually a brand new winter uniform being tested at the swedish army ranger battlion. The winter camo has been pullover overalls since like the dawn of Sweden. For a few weeks however, individuals have been spotted with the new uniform at the battalion. I do not know if this uniform will become standard issue or what will happen to it but look them up on instagram @armensjbat :)
I like the M81 Woodland camo. It´s a good Allrounder in different Areas.
really enjoyed the video thanks for taking the time to do these very informative and entertaining. happy up coming holidays from my family to yall's down here in kyle tx.
Thanks brother, you too.
So I've been reading some of the comments and I want to correct a few things.
Some are saying that is not a standard issue cap. To me it looks like a standard M90 cap with velcro for flag placement sewed on. We don't have that, but otherwise the cap looks right. Sometimes though you will see COs and NCOs using the old m/59 cap which is solid green and has flaps on the outside that can be folded down to protect the ears from wind. The M90 cap has those flaps on the inside.
Some are saying that the M90 Light jacket, which this is, is only issued to officers and troops doing peace keeping operations in warmer climates. That used to be the case, however as a member of the Homeguard (we always get all the new equipment last), I can confirm that everyone should have it now.
Some are saying that the M90 Light jacket is not used in the field. The climate in Sweden is warming up and more soldiers are starting to use it in the field, at least in southern Sweden. Though there's a lot of northern Sweden out there and I don't know about them.
Lastly, you have indeed folded up the arms wrong in the beginning of the video. The inside should not be shown. The trick to it is to make _one_ long fold where to pull the edge of the arm as far up as you can. Then you grab the bottom where the fabric was folded and fold it up again 2/3 of the way. You then pull the edge of the arm (which is still up by the shoulder) down over the new fold. This should expose the outside of the arm over the folded up fabric.
Thank you for the great video!
99% of the time it is the shadows that give away a position. Make sure that light hits your surfaces from the enemies viewpoint. Example, leaning away from enemy.
You are quite right in thinking northern USA, Stockholm (capitol of Sweden) is located about 59° N, I think Maine is in those regions of USA. Nice vid thou, hope you didn't swet too much!
It can also protect you form a small amount of radioactivity.
I just love how people are bitching about that the uniform is "incorrect and worn wrong and not standard uniform" etc.. 1 he's not a official swe soldier
2- that uniform can be bought by anyone from paintballers to soft air gun players and even hunters tend to use it while hunting. there are a lot of options for the so called "hobby" users to choose between so that the official standard uniform get's left alone and only used by the military, the purpose was to show how effective the camo is nothing more nothing less(read the title and info).
They are among the best: Swedish M90, Finnish M05, Norway M98, Flecktarn, Cadpat, Ukraine MM14, Marpat, WZ95 pantera.
As far as the patterns that you have shown so far in that environment I believe that those are 2 of the best. I would love to see how some of the patterns hold up out in the desert south west.
M24 is now being issued in Sweden!
Thank you, Petter. I just learned a new thing.
The top part you have, is the M90 Light. The M90 field jacket is a bit heavier :)
5:28 i spoted you both instant as the shadows did revel you !
This is trippy as fuck haha. The first example where the guy was to the left blended in perfectly.
I see alot of incorrect information in the comments.
First of all the M90 Light was originally called M90 Lätt(light) FN(UN). As the name UN tells us it was made for personel in deployment to hotter areas, in this case, former Yugoslavia.
After our deployment there it started to be issued to officers and since around 2009-2010 they started issuing it to all soldiers, including basic training and home guard.
Regarding that "you are not allowed to use it in combat" or "it's for staff personel", it's not true. However it is made of a less durable material so it breaks more easily. The M90 Light pants are going away because of this reason since they were the ones getting destroyed from usage during field drills and combat drills.
Basically it is in the same situation as the shell garments. Local rules apply. Most, however are allowed to use these as they please.
Who gives a shit
I spotted you in about 50% of the locations there. Very good ;-)
Dont forget that this camo is made for swedish forrest where the ground is green with moss and shrubs and not ones with more brown forrest floors, aswell he has not alied proper head camo in the form of shrubs to conceal the outline of the head
I would like to see you do a video with multiple camo patterns compared to each other at the same time.
Good camouflage. But rare and little bit expensive in my country
Brent you should try the Slovenian multicam aka Slocam...also the older and a lot darker pattern of slovenia-oak leaves...you can watch some videos about those two on youtube...also check it out on camopedia.org
Great job with the patterns, love that stuff! Greetings from Slovenia!
And try the Croatian pattern forest digital. Also check it out in camopedia...
Thanks for the input brother and thanks for watching.
I like the parts in the video when your trying to spot the soldiers in the forest and they open fire at you before you even spot them...😎👍i think both camoflauge patterns is very effective ...🇹🇹
The M90 pattern is made for boreal forrest, and that hat is not original swedish military. This uniform is our light version, it is made for warmer climate, or summer in Sweden.
You should do more of these where different patterns are used.
I have almost 100 camouflage effectiveness videos featuring different patterns.
I meant where you have two or more patterns side by side. Particularly patterns that are very similar or were used during the same time period and conflict.
Vad bra. You finally got it.😀
Looks like it’d be great in the southeast right now, where it’s 50 shades of green. Greener than green.
im new to this one and seem to me that camo is so very good to keep you unnotice in the jungle ...
As TH-cam's greatest authority on the effectiveness of modern camouflage patterns - a noble and important subject - I'd be interested in what you think on mono-colour uniforms. The Israelis and the Austrians seem to have done fine with them. Some of the recent Russian patterns also look almost unicolour. Are multi-colour uniforms really that much of an advantage? Or is it mostly fashion?
Mono colour works better than most camouflage pattern uniforms during movement. The human eye have a tendensy to spot movement ever so small.
Both were really good
The old Woodland pattern is still pretty good
Like many others have commented, the M90L is not meant for combat use. I wouldn’t wear it in combat even if they allowed it - because it isn’t fire-retardant like the standard M90 is.
I am a bit late but im glad you found our camo!
This however is NOT an official swedish army m90 uniform, this is from a large batch that reached the civilian market a few years ago and has been sold worldwide ever since. Its kind of a mystery where it came from. My guess is that it's a batch that was in fact rejected by the swedish army. The colors are too dark compared to a genuine item, they're not marked with the "Three crowns" label, and also think that the sizing is different from the real stuff. That said, I actually have one of these jackets, and its a very well made jacket of high quality, but not genuine military issue.
It’s nice to see someone that actually knows what they’re talking about
I find it difficult to determine the effectiveness of a pattern by just looking at it. This pattern I would had sworn had far too defined shapes and colors to work well. When you actually get out in the woods though, it actually works rather well. That hat gave him away a few times though, ha. Very defined shape.
I kind of like that A2 set-up you have there. Very classic combat AR set-up with the heavier barrel.
I've had M90 and M90K patterns for quite a while and used them in many different areas. It is a common thing that people look at them and say "What is this???" And then its effectiveness prove them wrong in the field...
u gotta roll the sleeves up so that the green is outwards only the Swedish amphibious corps has the white sleeves
verusteleka has good prices on this. and have a big selection of other things like finnish m05
excellent . experts at this . i would have not lasted 2 minutes against you two
Get Finnish m05 now when it's commonly available
olppano verustelleka. expensive but readily available
Finnish uniform looks like russian uniform
This is why those ambush scenes are so intense in movies.
PIne forest pattern, look at all the black, it needs a thick canopy with lots of deep shadows. I bet it looks good on NVG though, probably very effective at night.
Militia.uS.com It's actually a dark blue, not black.
enjoyable and informational video, however I was surprised how fast I could pick out the ball cap and the other headgear, also need to figure out a way to breakup the silhouette of the backpacks. With just watching a few minutes and very little training I could pick them out about 70% or above in about 5 seconds
Good video, but the field hat is not the standard issue. And there's a special way to fold the arms to make the camo stay on the outside.
Great vid as usual. Woodland is typically to dark in Virginia.
It did pretty well, I would say. However, I was thinking that perhaps you guys need to retry the DPM in a fall climate.
whats the point of either camouflage uniform and paint? Could pick both of you out of the picture within seconds
Brent, your M81 woodland seems a little... Different than my BDU. Yours looks to have a lot more green and the black branches are thicker and more pronounced. Can you tell me a little about it?
They're one of my pair of Marine Corps issued utilities from years ago prior to us switching to MARPAT. They probably look different to you because they are faded from years of use.
Hey mate would it be possible to show all of Bruce's gear (webbing, chest rigs etc), I would to see how it differs from say your gear, i know I might be hard to do, but would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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These guys are awesome! I got me a flecktarn camo suite but Iam liking this Swedish camo too
Thanks
Hope you guys are weathering that storm ok down there
that is the M90L (light) we have a heavier model. m90l we use i summer and on tropical missions.
great vid as always brother
Thanks brother.
Brent if they ever make BDUs in the jungle digital camo the RDA wore in Jason Cameron's Avatar would u do a video on it? They're going to be making more movies soon so I thought I'd ask
I'm a bargain shopper man, I get what I can but I'm not going to break the bank to do so. That's the reason I don't have videos on the newer Multicam patterns.
Hey, you 2 guys, go home and mow the lawn and trim the hedges....How about that project with refinishing her kitchen table that has been in the garage since last Summer? When are you getting to that?
Movement is always the biggest giveaway
I admit- it is the best possible quality i can imagine. They do issue also kind of smock, made of 50/50 370g canvas. That one is as good as British smocks.
In that enviroment, the U.S. camo was more effective. It has some lighter shades of color that matched the surroundings better. In a rain forest with some darker colors in the enviroment the Swedish may be better.
it's also almost entirely waterproof as well.
I like the two-person video.
Shat my pants at 6:30...
Same and the M90 dude is rolling heavy.
Same
The pattern seems to be pretty good but the hat and the belt bags was revealing a few times.
We don’t use that hat in fact the entire uniform is a reproduction
One small, but very nice, feature that Bruce forgot to mention (or perhaps it was missing on his pants) is the little piece of strong fabric with a button on it on the inside of the pants, which create a little loop. It is used to "hook onto" your shoelaces, which prevents your pants from accidentally getting pushed up over your boots when walking in deep snow, which of course is very common in Sweden.
I will have to check my pair! You are right, I must have missed this feature.