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The Cure For The European CUV? | 2020 Lincoln Corsair
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ส.ค. 2020
- Like the MKC before it, the Corsair marches to a different drummer than the X3 and GLC and I'm not just talking about which wheels are doing the motivation. The Corsair is the small luxury crossover for you if you're looking for something a little softer and more comfortable. In a sea of BMW X3 imitations this isn't just unusual, it's refreshing.
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Lincoln knocked it out of the park with this one. So much better inside and out than the escape.
Alex makes a great point about Lincoln prioritizing ride and comfort over handling. I think that was a really smart choice for this segment and I agree that wayyyyyyy too many compact crossovers are trying to be the next X3. Kudos to Lincoln for charting their own course. I love the comfort-focused mission of the Corsair and I would honestly take this over a GLC300. Few other people might say that but that’s just me personally.
GLC still looks better
george ibrahim Looks are subjective, but I think I like the Corsair’s looks better overall. Not loving the facelifted GLC’s looks personally. That’s just me, though.
@@yes8032 Looks are subjective.
@@yes8032 I HATE all the black un-painted plastic on the sides of the Mercedes GLC... Idk if I would lease a Corsair just because it's ALL body-colored like a luxury car should be, but it definitely helps in my opinion.
that interior is fresh as hell
We've had our Corsair for over a year. Absolutely no complaints and this SUV outstanding! It rides smooth, the interior feel extremely luxurious and the Turbo 4 is quick.
Just bought one. Love the interior and the ride. Flight blue with 2.3 Turbo.
I saw Doug do this review on the Corsair and must say that I was feeling the car a lot more but your review was so much deeper and the way you compare it to the other vehicles really help me with the decision that I'm about to make on something new
Your show is greatly appreciated
I agree he goes into detail more than most journalists. Have you decided what you're looking into
@@ricbrown5002 I'm thinking 2018 xc40
Luxury CUV should be quiet, smooth, and luxurious. Sportiness is NOT a major factor for this segment, IMO. Buyers are coming out of sedans for space and luxury in this segment.
10:24 What Alex was really saying: "DAMN YOU STRAIGHT PIPES!!!"
It's a good call-out
I would like to see testing of driver assist features....lane keeping,centering,adaptive cruise etc. On all vehicles that you review.
Me too. Some are better than others. Why not review and compare?
ya, some are horrible nannies.
Agreed! This is a HUGE buying decision. Specifically the lane centering and what speeds it works within and how accurate compared to each brand.
@@JonLabbe but does Alex listen to us?
I want to see Adaptive Cruise control with Stop and Go tested. I don't see too many companies offering something that can rival Ford's system.
Just ordered a 2021 Corsair 2.3. Can’t wait to get it.
Alex, I agree with you. My definition of 'luxury' also includes luxury.
Dead on. My 2013 Acura was a great car, but in no way a luxury car. I guess they felt leather seats and the Acura badge made it a luxury car. I got fooled.
@@paulstein9258 i had no illusions about the RDX when i got it. it's premium... to a point. and sitting in a 2019 RDX still did not give me the impression that it was "luxury." it's getting closer... but just not there.
Love it. Want it. American luxury is back!
Ok lol
*Glad to see Lincoln is changing their model names to actual words instead of abc69420* 😆
I fail to understand how Lincoln can get their interiors so right while Ford just can’t catch a clue with theirs...
Kumar Galhotra is more of a practical guy. He always prefers what works over hyped up things. That said I ve been in this Corsair I ve a few complaints. Those gloss black plastics are nasty n collecting dust. The gloss metallic sorrounds shine like crazy under sunlight. They cud ve added a satin metallic finish which wud add more premium feel while not shining off like the current application. The fit and finish still is not as good as Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus. The panel gaps are not consistent. Some shut lines are not perfectly aligned like in German and Japanese competition.
But even with these flaws the Lincoln felt extremely compelling compared with competition, specially Cadillacs and Acuras and Infinity etc felt like instant failures but Merc, Audi, BMW. LEXUS still can put up a smart fight against Lincoln.
I can think of about $30,000 worth of reasons! I had a Loaded 2018 Escape. Nice car. Always wanted a Lincoln. I was a Navy pilot. Corsair F4U version was my fave airplane so when I saw the 2020 Corsair 2.3T Reserve I was hooked! At 82 it’ll prob be my last car. I love it!
A comfy ride in a luxury car, what a shocker. A nice change to be sure.
I need this comfort in an EV SUV
I'm pretty sure the rear seats slide to trade off passenger and cargo room. At least they do on the escape.
The back goes vertical for dogs that may sit there and extra cargo room behind them. Are dogs do not use the backrest but when they do they want support sittinf upright. This works on our Buick Envision with sliding and reclining seats.
You helped me decide. Mine is White with the Sandstone interior. Base engine is more than adequate.
This is my favorite Lincoln!! Nice job Alex.
Here in California you have to dress for the day
Cold weather apparel in the morning, spring weather later morning early after then summer apparel in the later afternoon 😂😂
Those 24 to 30 way adjustable Lincoln seats are great! I sat in all Lincoln models that had them and all cars should be so lucky. Almost got a Lincoln, but ended up with a cpo Ford Edge Sport. I'm impressed that the Corsair is just about 1/2 second slower 0-60 than the Edge.
Alex, I am with you on comfort over handling. I am not sure if it is people that don't want to get real about how they really drive their cars most of the time and manufacturers just follow the market, or car companies set the tone and people follow. I have done 0-60 of 2.6 Seconds and fast Canyon carving but my fondest driving memories are from my plush quiet oldsmobile. I take floaty suspension with meaty tires over those booty-buster large wheels any day (if I can find them on a car that is not 20 years old).
I love the interior and the exterior on the Corsair! I like the retro-future feel. I drive an MKC and I enjoy driving something that is different from the masses.
The first ever CLEAN sophisticated review of the Corsair! Thanks Alex!!
This is a car I'm really intrigued with, and this was the best, most nuanced review of it that I've yet seen. Great job, Alex!
Just got one of these last week. 2021 model. Pretty loaded with the exception of the 24 way seats and adaptive suspension. Been very impressed so far. Chose it over a Lexus due to the lane centering, self parking, and a few other options. It also hauls ass. Came from a 2019 Edge ST with the 2.7 TT and this feels just about as quick and gets better MPG.
I have the corsair since February 2020. I enjoy it . smooth n it handle well.
Corsair ftw bc of how rare it is to see one of them on the road
Lincoln's website used to highlight the Corsair PHEV, but info is buried on the site now. The site says it'll be available in "summer", but fall sounds more reasonable, as Alex said.
Didn't Alex mention 2021 for Lincoln Corsair PHEV version being on sale?
I am older now. Corsair would be my pick.
Im old too..Lincoln is a go
June, July and August are the foggiest months in San Francisco.
aka Fog-gust!
Coldest winter I ever spent was a Summer in San Francisco
I really like this. Would be my top pick if I were shopping this segment. Hoping Lincoln combines the Nautilus and MKT with this new updated design language
Poppin' that collar like it's 1984! LOL
Daily video upload. Alex you are killing it!
WoW, this car scream luxury and design. I'm not a Ford Lincoln fan, but I like this car
Lincoln is one of my favorite brands this year! I’m seeing a lot of Aviators here in California
I'd agree that the Aviator is an appealing midsize CUV, especially compared to one of top trims (ST or Platinum) of the Explorer. A mid-trim moderately optioned Aviator (Reserve) has an MSRP around $64,500. Top trim Explorers have MSRP's that near or top $60,000. There's no question in my mind that the Aviator is a far better proposition. Whether the same is true of Lincoln's other CUV's is a more difficult case to make.
I find it difficult to believe that Lincoln still is not selling that well considering their new line up is superb. Their reliability too above industry average and on par with Acura, Infinity, Audi, Mercedes etc
Standard features on this are actual safety features, while the optional ones are really convenience features.
That little 2.3 turbo almost matches the v8 in my old vw touareg. That little Lincoln should be a screamer.
I wish they would come back the rear wheel drive, thanks Sir👍👍👍
I’m waiting patiently for CPO
The crossover that will impress you, but not your friends
Woke AF that’s fine by me until my friends start making the payments 😂
so why do i have to impress my friends ?
My friends ain’t paying the car note
So let them test drive it. When I got my 2015 Mustang GT, I let my friends (who own German & Japanese luxury cars) drive it, and they were impressed and said it was surprisingly comfortable.
@vvvVFANGSVvvv that's only the nouveau riche. the real rich people are understated and live under the radar.
I was hoping to hear Alex's option/comparison that would have included the Acura RDX.
Are DX are you kidding that SUV is full of errors transmission electronics I don’t want it for free
Ben Lisi plzzz ford couldn’t even launch the Explorer/ Aviator right. Cars leaving the factory without crucial parts. amp.freep.com/amp/1941925001
Der Schwindel I Wouldn’t call Bmw Mercedes Audi junk either
@@theyadmire511 That problem was fixed back in late 2019.
@@benlisi2540 me either
I purchased the 2020 standard Corsair with the 2.0 L engine and it has plenty of power. 33K. I love it!
*Alex, I don't think you mentioned the fact that the backseats also slide front/rear.
Great price. Did you get a base model with no extras? Or did you get some options for that price?
jockboy Just the standard base model which really pretty much comes loaded.
@@macsterguy Thanks.
Alex, why are you comparing the engine size and power to sub-compact offerings (5:15)? This is the luxury twin to the Ford Escape, a clearly COMPACT crossover offering. It has nothing to do with the sub-compact category in any way. Yes, the Germans might PRICE their sub-compact offerings similar to this price of this compact offering, but that only says something about German car pricing, not this car.
Because Lincoln has made comparisons themselves and the Corsair is on the small side of the compact luxury segment.
alex congrats! a enjoyable professional as always. thank you
December is the foggiest month of the year, when cold, wet and stagnant air creates foggy conditions.
Oddly, Lincoln makes that missing rear parcel shelf an optional purchase beyond what the luxurious hider reserve trim.
I traded my 2017 Audi Premium Plus Q5 for the standard 2.0 liter Corsair. I love the Corsair and feel it is a much better value than the Audi. However, there are those that cannot live without their 4 rings.
Great review, as always, Alex!
I would like either this Corsair Reserve, a XC60 T6, or a Rdx A-spec...which the RDX is the largest almost midsized
Great review as always.
I was wondering why you stopped doing the child seat videos? If it takes to much time to do a separate video could you do a ballpark estimate if you think 3 could fit across since most people are replacing their sedans with compact SUV for daily drivers. Thanks.
The fog season is a season of fog that occurs in some places, because of special meteorological and topographical characteristics, after a rainy period. The fog season is usually based in the cooler months (late autumn, winter and early spring).
An example is found in the San Joaquin Valley and Sacramento Valley areas of California's Great Central Valley, where a thick ground fog, known as Tule fog, may form, in particular in the months from November through March. In the Tampa Bay area of Florida, the fog season is from December to February. Sydney's fog season is longer, starting from April through to October. Though it's more frequent in June due to more rain.
It is not generally true that fog season in a given area is during Fall or Winter (the cooler months); for example, the Japanese coast of the Pacific Ocean has a dense fog season from May to August. The June Gloom, a cloudy and foggy phenomena, experienced in the southern coast of California occurs in late spring and early summer (May and June).
I would love the cool fog here in Texas at this time of the year!!!!
Alex, why is Corsair so small on outside comparing to other compact SUV, but having above average interior room?
I am shopping in this segment and it is definitely a tough choice between the corsair hybrid and the GV70. Two very different cars which are the same in that they are immense value propositions, just one will give you features and mileage and the other will give you trim and performance. I'm leaning corsair though because i think it will be better in traffic and parking. As much as I like the auto in and out feature, in a crowded car park, I don't see myself getting out and using the fob to tuck away the genesis, meanwhile one-shotting a tight parrellell in fords excellent autopark is something I will use each and every time.
Alex, 71 DB at 50 MPH? Many reviewers (savagegeese, doug d) note that the Corsair is noticeably quieter than the competition- I was surprised to hear that number- carconfections, in their video, rated it at 54DB going almost 60 mph... so I'm confused- that's a huge difference.
Yeah, I've read and heard the same thing. Alex's number is a lot higher.
@@jockboy Exactly- and carconfections literally took the reading right on camera- you can watch them do it. Could a rear trunk shield really make that much difference?
@@austincowper7551 I question the trunk shield difference, too. Just looked up Car & Driver -- they rate the Corsair at 67 DB, but at 70 mph -- huge difference from 50.
@@jockboy Yup- "Sound-level readings at a 70-mph cruise of 67 decibels for the 2.0-liter and 68 decibels for the 2.3 both are fitting for the luxury segment." Would love to hear Alex's reply-
@@austincowper7551 So would I, especially since there's so much agreement among other sources.
The bezel on the infotainment screen is so large that it must be there to provide structural rigidity.
😂😂
This is a first year vehicle from Ford that had issues with quality at launch. Ford announced this morning a recall on part of the suspension of the Corsair. This is a lease only vehicle - too risky to purchase.
bassandtrebleclef Issues that Ford is having with all their new releases currently.
Yep true
Thanks for a great review, as always!
Hello Alex on Autos, could you please review the 2020 Lincoln Aviator ? best regards from China.
(by the way, the 2020 Lincoln Aviator is also local produced now in China !!!!)
These look really nice but at $60k after adding in all the good options, they're definitely overpriced.
You can equip the 2.0T version nicely for just around $50K, which is competitive for the segment
@@future62 I looked at one in person. It came out to about $59k. The the options and improvements we added over the base model were not worth an extra $24k IMO.
Their trim level pricing is way off. For people that buy the base trim it's a decent value but for those that prefer to option it up, it's a horrible value (about $10k overpriced).
I will be you could get a pretty nice discount on these to help with that price. I do however find that the very highest trim levels on cars are not the value play.
D H The worst part is that you can equip an Escape Titanium with far better options for less than a base Corsair, which is essentially the same car, so that results in almost no Lincoln sales because let’s face it, the Lincoln brand isn’t attractive on its own to anyone under 60. As you’ve noted, on higher trims, the value proposition just isn’t there compared to Volvo, Audi, and others because underneath it all, it’s still just a Ford Escape really.
@@afcgeo882 How is a $60K Q5 2.0T any better than a $60K Corsair 2.3T? All luxury cars are overpriced compared to top of the line mainstreamers. They depreciate worse, cost more to run etc. Corsair like all the other luxury crossovers is more refined, has better interior materials, better dealership experience etc. I have an old MKX and we test drove an Edge Titanium when we were shopping for it. There were clear differences in materials and overall refinement that you can't see on a spec sheet.
Nice vehicle and a great review Alex - thanks for posting it.
I test drove a fully equipped '20 Corsair Reserve 2.3 several months ago. Great looking exterior but a couple of items in the interior were a disappointment for me. The optional 24-way massaging seats were hard and uncomfortable (!) - mainly due to the fact the bottom cushion lacks sufficient cushioning. The standard seats in the Corsair Reserve are actually much more comfortable.
The 2nd disappointing item was the shortage of front passenger seat legroom. If you're a person of average height (or taller) you'll find you can't stretch your legs out properly when sitting in the front passenger seat. My wife (who is 5'8" tall) found the front passenger seat legroom to be unacceptable.
My final gripe was with the infotainment touchscreen - it's too small imo.
Corsair is one of the greatest names for a car - cause every good story involves a pirate.
Herp McDerp It’s aviation-themed, like all Lincolns currently.
Bought the corsair in March like it a lot, don't drive it much , It's just for road trips
The wide rear end of these cards make for an great look. Because of dealer proximity, I went for the 2017 Ford Fusion Platinum with all options. Fantastic car but mediocre rear end styling. I drool at those wide rear ends on the Lincolns.
I have always wondered what it would be like to own a Lincoln. .
Leo the short guy my sister has a MKZ and it’s like any other car. Nothing special but definitely a nice ride and lots of features.
I have a fully optioned 2015 MKC 2.3 which I really enjoyed. I purchased a extended service plan and extended warranty plan which gave me a peace of mind. The only drawback is deprecation, which is over 60% in 5 years. It’s not as realizable as a Toyota or Lexus but not worse than other imports.
Great Looking Crossover.
Beautiful luxury vehicle
Hey Alex. It's a car. A wagon to be sure but it's a car.
Alex, how PHEVs competitors from Audi, Mercedes Benz and Volvo to Corsair PHEV be more fuel efficient since they are serial ones while Lincold employ the parallel hybrid which as Toyota's version of RAV4 Prime are the most fuel efficient? Even EPA ratings mirror that.
I've often wondered why in your reviews you never mention (literally) why you wouldn't chose a well equipped low mileage loaded say Mercedes GLC as an alternative to say a new Volvo XC60 or a Corsair? Change the names as you will but a lot of times a person could save 10-20K over the price of new. Really enjoy your reviews and they heavily influenced our decision to get a 2018 530e which we love!
It's apples-to-apples, reviewing new cars against other new cars. It's up to the individual to decide whether the savings buying a used luxury vehicle is worth it. I made a similar decision buying a certified used Toyota Avalon Hybrid.
Hey Alex would have loved it if you compared the corsair with the RDX
I really like the new Lincoln exteriors, but I can't help but think the digital dash looks like something out of Windows 7. I wish they combined a digital screen with some classy, physical gauges.
Nice review. I want the phev version!!!
Alex, where is the pedestrian detection?
I choose the XT4 sport. I drove the Lincoln, too soft and cumbersome, like driving my grandmothers 70s lincoln.
Lincolns are not and never have been engineered for hard, sporty rides. Lincolns are luxury cruisers...like Rolls Royce.
@@dorado0359 LOL, like a Rolls.
Will this get full self driving update?
I like the Corsair a lot.
I still think the GLB would be a better comparison to the Corsair rather than the GLC and I will bet the GLB would compare better!
Any advantage compared with the RDX?
interior quality. The Acura isn't even a real luxury car
Alex, the 2.0T MKC has 0 to 60 in 7.9 second. This is the same engine and same suv size. The only meaningful difference is the new transmission. Why is the 0 to 60 improved so much?
The old transmission was a 6F series TC AUto.. a stupid old slushbox that was only good at part throttle driving. The new 8 speed AT in AT mods shifts up almost as fast as some DCTs. But when downshifts and manual shifting are considered its still slower than DCTs but again much much better than Fords old 6F150-6F350 transmissions
@@1989rs500 The 8 speed on 2.7T Nautilus give me 0 to 60 in about 6 second, which is a very small improvement over the 6 speed 2.7T Mkx. It seems the new 8 speeds work much better with 2.0T on both Corsair and Nautilus than the upgraded engines.
@@jhhuang8967
Not that... its more of the tuning.
There 0-60s are not correct too
actually i drive exactly like you. left leg tucked and right leg on pedals.
Great family SUV with plenty of space.
Wife wants a Q5 next but I will put the Corsair on the list. She doesn’t like the styling of Lexus.
2.3. hmmm...same engine in the explorer and here it is slower?
heck, the explorer get better mpgs as well, i believe.
6 seconds isn't slow.
@@jockboy didn't say it was.
just that the explorer, Waaaaaaay larger, is 6.3 to 60.
since when should such a smaller vehicle be the same.
again, not to mention the mpgs.
epa has them 1 mpg different.
um, really???????
@@paulpellico3797 Motor Trend has the Explorer at 6.8, which is considerably slower and makes more sense in comparison to the Corsair. CarIndigo has it even slower -- at 7.7
@@jockboy alex on autos at6.3.
others online have it 6.4 to 6.8
this is a massive SUV.
so....?
and your thoughts on the same MPGs???????
@@paulpellico3797 What Alex says isn't the point regarding the 0-60 times. NO ONE else has the Explorer that quick, no matter the engine. I can't answer your question about the MPGs being the same. It is a much bigger vehicle -- but it appeals to a different audience anyway. I would buy a Corsair. I don't want an Explorer. For one thing, the interior is bad with way too much plastic, and that's why they're dropping prices next year. Also the AWD Explorers get much lower mileage.
How Much Price Lincoln Corsair
Lincoln finally got the design on the money..Lincoln , bring back the MARK luxury coupe..whoever designed the car should be promoted to. Head of design..
No mention of the push button transmission?
I have had a chance to drive Ford vehicles with the rotary shift. It didn't take a lot to get accustomed to that. One magazine review was not a fan of the buttons due to the reach required, and the potential to hit the wrong button in certain vehicles.
I think my sister has a hair dryer...Corsair. LOL
I would take a reserve with the 2.3 over several of the imports. I love the family styling of the Lincoln's.
Love it !!
Why pay more for the bigger engine if not a big difference? Why not save money?
The 8" center screen is kind of small now. It should've come with the 10" screen in the Aviator
Doesn’t that grill look an awful lot like Kia’s? Not that that’s a bad thing.
MjekuMati after work it’s a rectangle
In less than a year, once I move out of crime and tax-infested New York to Aventura, Florida, I'm definitely going to buy a new Lincoln Corsair or possibly a Nautilus.
49 degrees??? It's 100 degrees over here in texas lmao.
Moved to California than
Why does not Lincoln offer a mileage champ straight Hybrid !? They should know by now the turbo charge 1.5 & 2.0 engines are garbage. No one makes make a long term 1.5 or 2.0 engine that is turbo charged will last longer than their warranty period. Notice Toyota has stayed away . Except for the Crown ( they will learn . The hard way).
The 2.0 and 2.3 get a similar fuel economy and acceleration, then why would you pay extra for the 2.3?
Torque, my friend. It’s all about the torque.
Honestly I have the new Ford Escape with 2.0 eco. That thing feels like bmw I4 turbo because of the twin scroll turbo. And the 2.3 is the old turbo I believe.
jack adam I heard the transmission is a dog though.
jack adam What torque? Did you even watch the video? With only 30 extra lb/ft and them being mitigated at lower speeds by the tuning, you lose ALL advantage.
You asked why should you pay the extra for the 2.3, and I stated the obvious like captain obvious.. “torque”. Is it worth the extra money for that .2 sec, probably not. Ford 8 speed is decent, but I am not sure about their 10 speed.
The back is giving me Q5
Me too
Bit similar to jaguar in front ...
Bottom half tiger nose grille top half jaguar
That blinking turn signal is really irritating, bro.