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After migrating to Canada, many people aspire to come back to Dubai due to low taxes - but there is a different perspective too. In this video, we shall be talking about practicalities of moving back to Dubai after a long time of staying in North America.
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She is absolutely wrong and I strongly disagree with her as consumerism is everywhere and I know people in US are also living paycheck to paycheck! The best thing in Dubai is tax free salary and only you need to be disciplined in your financials and the same is true with the kids!
Agreed
You have to be disciplined with your financials irrespective where you live.
I believe they have made good money in Dubai which helped them to move to USA
There's a thing called entitlement and I think that in itself is a reason enough to move from dubai. As she mentions about kids getting summer jobs
She is so wrong. I have been living in USA for forty years and it is up to a person how you want to live your life. She is willing to live in a country where you are introducing your children to the social problems that your kids are not accustomed to in Dubai or India or Pakistan like sex before marriage, LGBTQ and openly buying drugs like cannabis from the shops. She is only worried about the money and the lifestyle. The host is so right about that it is parents who raise their children not the other way around.
Does UAE gives you true PR? forget citizenship NO never
@hilifetravel8764 I totally agree with you she absolutely wrong I don't where she got this from I haven't a US citizen and living psy check to paycheck. What is she talk about. I see a lot of people earning tax earning tax free money and moving to USA on visitors visa and then buying businesses and acquiring green card.
I'm glad there's a channel where educated people can have a discussion on Pakistani issues. You don't have to agree with Batool or Wali, but we should welcome educated conversations. Try and learn from their experience, rather than considering it universal truth. Well done Wali bhai.
Just a suggestion for anyone who has never been to North America/ME and planning to move. Get the general info which she has shared but don't make up your mind based on someone else's experience. Thats just her personal PoV in a very specific situation and frame of mind as everyone has their own unique experience n situation. You know your own situation and goals so its better to do your own research before moving and then work according to your own goals.
Trends or opinions are bound to change from time to time but your own ideology, life experiences, rules and belief will tell you the truth. So just follow that.
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Some of their points are logical but situations vary from person to person.Living in Dubai or in North America or Europe if a person's mindset is purely materialistic then there are no limits for extravagance.A person who feels content by copying the western life style would set aside all the other social or moral values linked with their religious and ethnic back grounds.It is always to be kept in mind that we are different from the West in many aspects.Many of our social and moral values are far better than the West.Believing in spirituality and understanding it is very helpful in setting your direction in a completely different society.
Typical Pakistani mentality
North America has a competitive job market
One have to complete best of best
Example
Each year 150 000 people come to Toronto and compare their age ,education and level of experience one has to complete
These places r not for lazy people
Agreed, this varies greatly with each person's situation
I believe she had her first living access outside Pak was Dubai. Once she could fly to Canada she is spilling beans about her views on dubai which she always had. She needs to realize dubai is the ticket for her to travel Canada and US
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Seriously how ungrateful she is to Dubai.The place where she in millions to live a life in Canada.
I have worked in UAE 6 months back in 2014, and I visit Dubai like twice a year for the last few years. Entirely different reason for leaving UAE. Now, I am more inclined towards moving to UAE as soon as I can from Europe after living here for 16 years. I think anything is better to protect your children from woke liberal LGBTQ rubbish. Also, the taxes in the western world are painful. I would strongly argue Batool, for the reasons she has stated are quite subjective. My daughter is missing the experience of family and relatives, which we grew up with. There are a million more reasons I can suggest to move to M.E. Times are changing fast, things are only going to get worse in the West.
I agree 100 % western life is very tough for families
Pros of UAE
1) law and order
2) quality of life and income
3) 300+ days of sunshine
4) overall easy life as compared to other countries (domestic helpers , shopping, travelling)
5) Business and property
Cons:
1) racism (white vs Arabic vs rest)
2) Artificial city no soul , no culture
3) work with second tier of people in terms of best brains.
4) weather in general - less outdoor activities and more air conditioning lifestyle
5) no freedom of speech, if you are a person with opinions
Also hub of dajjal and bound for doooom
Life is easy if you're filthy rich.
Spot on
No country is perfect. I respect everyone’s opinion but I believe that Dubai is the best most secure country in the world with a lot of business and growth opportunities and employment opportunities. That aside as far the grooming of children is concerned it depends upon the parents. Although environment do has an effect however in the end it’s the responsibility of parents to teach there children. I believe crime rates and mental health issues like LGBT and gender issues in Canada are far more dangerous for our children to deal with. America however is also great for growth if you understand their system.
Very true analysis.
Yes I live in America and believe me LGBT crap and gun laws are main concerns for kids besides drugs on campuses.
I fully agree with you.
We are putting our kids on risk in North America.
Money and life comfort is not everything
She is willing to have influence of LGBTQ on her kids but she is not willing to.let her kids see luxury. Can we even balance both these things ??
You are so right.
You are absolutely right. I have seen the initial summary, but can someone please tell her can you compromise on below:
- Source of all vulgarity is west
- You can implement any of religious objectives of Islam in our personal life there in the presence of openly commited evil with no check and balance
- In Australia, every woman is killed due to domestic violence every 4 days. Do you see that in Dubai or UAE?
- The biggest issue here in west is the introduction of LGxxQ+ and exposure to a 5 year old in Kindergarten telling its okay and its normal.
- No personal tax on income whilst in west, one pays huge taxes and those taxes are then used in place a muslim does not want it to be spent.
- Makkaah and Madinah is just 2 hours 20 mins away where you can even visit on a long weekend and get your sins wash off every month.
She is wrong as I raised 5 kids in Dubai for 14 years. Very happy to raise them in the most protective environment in the world. The best time of our life. Morally, financially, religiously and practically, it was the best grooming for kids and life we spent here.
True,
She sure has some bad taste or grudge with dubai. Baseless argument
I left Dubai in 2018, and I agree with you. Dubai is not good for the family, especially for the kids. But every person has a different perspective.
Uae is not giving passport is the main reason so I left dubai
@@Jahangirsultan-iz4bk You are wasting your time in Dubai. You will be an expat all your life in Dubai.
Where would you raise your kids? They not getting proper education from parents? All starts with parents.
So USA is better with all the strip clubs and gun crime and school shooting that happens every month for last 15 years?
How long you live in dubai? Premature comments without any base
It's simple: If your priority is religion move/stay in Middle East
About her comment on raising children, looks like she is ok with the increasing LGBTQ issue in schools in Canada. Having access to luxury is nothing compared to that.
Hello Wali, I have been following your content and there are lots of good insights so far. As way of introduction , I am also a Canadian who had moved from Dubai about 4 years ago but I have had the unique experience of having lived and worked in 4 countries , namely Oman , US, UAE and Canada right now . If you are interested in an English collab, please let me know
Assalam Alaikum wr wb
Very interesting and healthy discussion.
Just wanted to add few points
I have been living in UAE for the last 16 plus years and raised my children here.
To a great extent what she is referring to wrt to luxurious life style and its negative impact on family is true.
However, its not impossible to lead a life in UAE without much indulgence in the extravagance.
As she said that in the west one can avoid many ethical challenges being faced by moving in like minded people, same applies in UAE as well.
One can move in circles where people are not engaged in the material rat race , we have found so many such families.
Regards
Living on a single income is not really “impossible” in NAmerica. Unless your car payments are 1500 dollars a month and you pay 50% of your take home pay on your rent or mortgage. If you have your finances under control it’s totally possible to live on a single income and still save some.
She is right word to word agreed. I am living in UAE Since 1994 to till today
My son is an American citizen I want him to complete his high school education from Dubai Can you tell me its procedure and its fees?
What kind of job u do and how much money u make????
Dajjal city
Have been living in Canada for 20 yrs now ... and my siblings are in Dubai .. what is the bigggest point is to have this Precious Passport as the biggest Advantage .. then you can move where u like as many mentitned already being in Dubai is not forevrr .. Also for children higher education option as well ... what I noticed as a comparison is There is more spending power in Dubai , my grown up kids are literally inclined to move to Dubai once done with their education .. obvio because kf family, luxeries and Halal food choices hehe and easy chilll life as comapred to Canada .. where we all are working including my 15 and 17 yrs old .. who dont like luxeries if they are getting it and so close to Pak .. BUT just understsnd it might not be forever so whoever can should opt for atleast the Other nationality ...( Unfortunately going to Pak is a not a sane option anymore )my 4 yrs old is saying evwry day Dubai is Bettee than Canada ! Canada is so boring .... that could explain how Dubai can influence kidos mind
PR?
33:03 beggars came mostly from Pakistan. They follow their prime minister.
Daycare is very expensive here in Canada and can go up to $1000, also depending on your personal/family income. There are subsidies but not everyone is eligible for them.
Where do you get this $1000 from
The main thing is that uae as whole or me countries is a temporary destination, especially south Asians, because neither of the countries provide you permanent residency
Sir I live in Dubai
I solute you and your Guest for such open mindedly Talking
I live and work in duabi but I would like to raise my childs either in Jeddah/Makkah region.
My cousin works in Dubai and has been living there for many years. He sent his son after class 12 to a top University in US for undergrad.
Savings is the habbit, income is your personality. You can make the change anywhere you live.
Good discussion. I moved to Canada in 2002 and then lived in Bahrain from 2007 to 2015 and back in Canada ever since. I agree with most of your observations.
Bahrain is good for old people. 50+ I'm in My 30s and seriously considering canada as an option
@@osamajamil428brother 50 isn’t old. I’m 50 and I still feel like how I felt in my 30s
Being born in Pakistan, moving to Canada at the age of 14 in late 80’s … then living in Canada, educating, getting married, having kids, working until 2014 and then moving with the family to Dubai… I can say I’m somewhat of an expert in family life (traditional family) in Canada, Pakistan and Dubai. I think the lady maybe fine in her own personal experience of living in Dubai … but she really doesn’t paint the correct picture of the experience of people like me. Tons of people ask me for advice on moving to Dubai and I always tell them that if they can find a job in a certain salary range then definitely move to Dubai. Especially if they would like to live in a traditional, safe, advanced and welcoming environment. My entire extended family is in Canada, US or UK… and visit every year. Whenever I visit I feel like im in an unsafe, unfriendly and broken place compared to Dubai. Living in Dubai I have the ability to not only positively impact my immediate family but also my extended family, friends and other needy people. I can not do the same working in Canada. My entire circle of friends that are expat Canadians with kids are of the same view as me. So, it’s all a matter of perspective.
Having said this… if you are living in Dubai and belong to the middle or lower economic class in your home country and get a chance to move to Canada or the West, JUMP ON THE OPPORTUNITY! this may seem like contradictory to my reaction on the lady’s views but it’s not … it’s a matter of perspective from two different realities.
Glad to know that you are enjoying living in Dubai.because I also want to move Dubai from USA.
Why confusing everyone. I have seen your videos and it seems whole world is unfit to live. Every place has its pros and cons and living circumstances is different for each family and their priorities.
Really interesting discussion, thanks to both the host and the guest
I dont agree with her the amount of savings possible in dubai is not possible in north America or Europe.. nice discussion though anyways
Living in Australia from last 17 years and I 100% agree with you
Note North America also Include USA - which is one of the most highest paying countries in the west.
Your show is really great and very informative . Well Done ! Keep It Up !
Here in America 🇺🇸, a truck driver who has his own truck easily earns 2 to 2.5k US dollars 💵 in a year😊. Does a truck driver in Dubai earn this much money in a year?…. Plz make the next video accordingly!! If someone wants to do business then America is paradise for him!
Business in any region can be a tricky thing as it’s a risk at the end of the day. Success and failure of any business depends upon through market research and analysis. Most startup businesses fail and no one talks about them as no one wants to discuss their failures but only project their successes. While truck drivers might be earning this amount as might be told to you by someone however I don’t believe it to be 100% correct. Please don’t believe every hearsay that you are told by people. Trust me you don’t want to be a driver and believe me you will sure not make much money through it. I have spoken to drivers there and many of them are in losses. Moreover they also complain about medical health issues that they face associated with prolonged driving like back pains and obesity etc.
Drivers in Dubai used make a lot of money earlier before 2022 however now the market is over saturated and therefore can not make the same earnings. Most of them are barely able to pay for their own living expenses. Drivers however working for some companies or government are doing fine. Now obviously if you are living in a Marina or Downtown then the earnings will not b sufficient for u to survive there.
U mean 200k to 250k...?
@@enigma_88 Yes, truck owner operators earn that much money!!
Btw… single income lifestyle is definitely possible in North America as well… my parents raised a family of 5 on a single income. It’s all a matter of adjusting your lifestyle according to your income. The lady needs to spend 10 more years in Canada to formulate a more informed view.
The whole life you spent moving from one city to another, from one country to another.. from one job to another.
Great to see such thought provoking discussion.however, not convinced with Batool's point...t's all about how you are raising your children in any country, I stayed 13 yrs, the quality of life, the exposure of diversified culture, the s
afety and respect of woman, it's matchless.yes, for bachelor's camps environment snd transportation of low salaried workers, it must be improved.
What kind of reason is that about luxury?? Is it not there in Canada ? Dubai is so secure for kids and to make them value money depends on parents..consumership is given by US to all.over the world.
I lived in the US for past 30 years.
I have tried this move a few years back thinking we should live in a “Muslim” country. I lived in Mirdiff. In one year I left to go back to US. My gripes. Racism, no rights, no freedom of speech, discrimination on government level, standard of living general. To best honest, I rather move to Pakistan than Dubai.
I moved to USA from Dubai got the shock of my life after 9pm every thing closed hardly find any store open it’s like Jungle
Good to listen to you batool, the way u talk is really impressive
Lived in dubai 8 years JLT i cluster gold tower was my office and i lived in Greens near Tcom. it was a great experience, now in spain here madical system is worlds number 1.
Yeah Tax high but its all refundable if you get sick, unemployee or live more then 62 years.
Wrong perspective about Dubai. From a south asian background, being born and raised in Dubai and now living in North America, i do not agree on your comments about the lifestyle in dubai. You chose to live the luxury life by not considering if you really need all of it. You can live the same way in dubai how you live currently in North America.
Dubai is perfect.
Great podcast ...loved it watching from India.
If you have a business in dubai, there is nothing like dubai anywhere. The life, services and access to the whole world is unmatched. If you are on job, stay for sometime, save money and move ahead. I am born and brought up in dubai and living and working in dubai since last 40 years. I also have a business in mississauga. I would always opt for dubai anyday and there is no comparison to this city from any other place. The main idea is to make lot of money in dubai as you will need lot of money to retire here and that can only be done if you are a smart worker and know how to tap the market. Job oriented people i wouldnt suggest them to spend lot of time in dubai. If someone wants to work for other people, then ofcourse income will be limited. In this case ill suggest move to west.
Same is situation now people moving from Uk 🇬🇧 to Dubai to America 🇺🇸
I am Bharat from India, I chose Sharjah over Vancouver despite low numbers in my religion, reason, cost, crime, fentanyl, free culture, gang wars, etc etc and US please add gun culture
What job u do? And how much u make?
This is only her perspective firstly if they moved from Pakistan left highly paid job was not right decision for others it seems both tht lady and her husband like difficult life like chalanges .This is not fault of Dubai its depand on parents also we can observe low salaried parents from India,Bangladesh also living with children.u hv to make life on your situations.In Pakistan also if your child styding in high profile insitution with wealthy children also face the same situation like Dubai So plz dont spread only personal views make videos on bigger perspectives.
you’re right
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Moved to Canada after living 10 years in UAE 🙋♂️
Thanks million for this podcast, you both made my doubts so clear. I really loved the aspect that staying in Middle East makes our children so easy going that they may not face the hardships of life n it’s important for them to come out of the comfort zones by immigration.
UAE ETC IS GOOD TO MAKE MONEY short term .. or best is go to middle east, save, get PR in western country and see if you can get real ex pat job back in Middle east! but any way long term either you go back to your original country or western countries ( including Singapore) now a days also UAE is so expensive , rents are similar to western countries but are salaries there to match ?
I disagree with the safety for personal belongings. Had a very bad experience two years back at Dubai airport. During security check they made me take out my gold bangles and jacket last minute and since it was around 2am and traveling with kids with so many buckets being scanned i forgot to take my bangles and jacket and I remembered after two weeks . I emailed Emirates airline and my relatives went in person to file complaint they couldn’t track it.
Spending habit is a very personal thing and this habit evolves everywhere, it does not matter if you are in Dubai or Canada, this point is immaterial
Baharoz bhai ne smart reasoning ke through bhabi ko motivate ker liya hai waha rehny ke liye aur khud uae life enjoy ker rahy hain 😅
I respectfully disagree almost entirely. Ms. Batool may not have lived in Canada long enough to understand the long-term aspects of wealth generation with tax, challenges of climbing the corporate ladder, buying a home, and being stuck in a mortgage forever. Her main reason for moving here are for permanent residency, which I support, but she didn't mention that. People who are citizens of North America should consider going to the UAE to earn significant money for a few years. Conversely, individuals in the UAE and Pakistan should consider immigrating to Canada or the US for future residency. It's as simple as that. My question to her is, once she becomes a citizen of Canada, if she is offered the same salary (usually salaries are two folds for american citizens) tax-free in the UAE, will she go back or stay here and pay 40% taxes while living in a $1 million CAD garbage house in toronto? I would appreciate an honest response. Regarding family raising concerns, there are various options. You could buy a small villa outside of the city and have a proper setup. I can say that children in the Middle East often receive better education and are more intelligent than those in Canada. Kids can do schooling there and move to america for higher education. Ms. Batool may not have experienced high school yet or the issues with kids here like availability of marijuana. .
Very informative velog .Keep it up .
She provided good insight.
But why she mentioned Europe, and all other countries when she has got only Canadian exposure?
Also, why taking about Indian when she is a Pakistani!
It means she is not speaking with conviction. Very embryonic
Couple works in North America because of independence and benefits they both earn their pension, there is exposure to learning skills.
Working both family members growing in society with social independence.
In Dubai there is no rights and social growth, in Dubai you never feel home and stay in slavery environment.
She is just exaggerating seriouslyy!!
Simply what i feel , isko immigration karni thi , dubai helped and she moved simple
Pakistani passport inho nay change karna tha simple
The man in the podcast is correct
Thanks for guiding us
Aoa Wali, l am currently living in Australia considering moving to Dubai. Is Abu Dhabi better place than in regards to some issues raised by Batool?
Who is batool
Stay in australia dear
@@lachmandevjee5307The lady guest.
Yes Abu Dhabi is much better believe me
Are you AUS PR ? and depends upon your profession , UAE is good if you get good money and free accommodation? but you will never get PR
Great pod, well covered
Uae is far behind from usa.
I live in us last ten years and i recently visited uae two months ago and i experienced in uae u have to pay everything for ur necessities of life like schooling,health and even golden visa is not permanent and u have to pay every certain time to renewal.
At 1:00 what your guest was discussing about, I want to ask the sacrifices that her family is giving, are they worthwhile to live in the west?
Very informative and impressive.
This does not mean people shoujd not move. What about children of parents who are in transferable jobs. So it depends on parents how they expose their children and ask them to adjust
The value of western Passport is high in Middle East countries and the benefits are better
Canadian experience requirement is just to keep immigrants out of the job market
All women should wear Hijab/Burqa.
All should pray 5 times Namaz daily.
Schooling in US and Canada is definitely better, also the county public schools in good community is free and more wholesome.one thing is the parents have to make a an effort to keep regular visits to the Islamic community centers. Even those centers have good activities during Ramadan, school holidays etc. ❤
Hi Wali,
I have recently started following your channel. Thanks for sharing the content.
Everyone has different experiences and one should understand and respect it. But, since the interview is in public space so I wanted to give my 2 cents so that people also get other perspective.
I have lived in UK and currently living in Abu Dhabi. I tend to disagree with the lady. I will pick some points from her one interventions:
She mentioned that they were saving more in NA than Dubai while her husband was CFO of P&G in Dubai. That says it all. If you don’t have saving mindset here and you’re in competition to give yourself and kid a high end lifestyle then there’s no limit. Since UAE doesn’t give you citizenship, those who spend most of what they earn are missing the whole point of moving to UAE.
If they moved to NA without job, they most likely developed a saving attitude that is helping them till now and they are saving more, with all the taxes.
She mentioned about safety in Dubai. That’s the most basic thing one needs for themselves and the kids.
One thing she needs to realize that US experience is NOT an international experience. It’s the demand of the local market and relevant experience that is preferred everywhere.
What she didn’t tell was that NA was a never ending cycle of effort and hard work, with passport as a return. Everyone has right to prefer passport over money but saying that you save less in UAE than NA is a lie.
She probably is in a phase of denial to justify their move to NA. The typical with many who move to Canada.
Since they themselves have moved to US after Canada shows that Canada didn’t serve much purpose than a different colored passport.
Overall, this comparison of moving to GCC and NA/Europe makes little sense. GCC is about making money, and save for future moves. Latter is mostly for passport and different citizenship for you and your kids, that doesn’t help you save much.
I wanted to share my thoughts for viewers to not get carried away with one side of the story.
Thanks.
You cannot give to beggers - where is the freedom. I cannot trade my freedom for money, luxury, hype. Freedom is priceless for everything else you have master card
Host reds to come and live few years in America or Canada to really understand the difference. Dubai is great for people of subcontinent for whom Dubai is heaven. For us, it is not all that.
Totally agree that despite the wokeism, North America remains the best place to raise a family. Lots of reason even beyond the bling that defines Dubai. Our Kids in North America start jobs after high school - How do Middle East kids living in a lap of luxury , clueless about how the real world works compete with them ? Where do u find the most advanced Medical technology or the best education in the world - again North America and definitely not the middleeast. Another aspect that has a lot of value for me and maybe not for most Pakistanis are my rights and freedom - constitutionally guaranteed in North America - while in Dubai … less said the better. 😢
If the offer from Dubai was considerably good then one should shift because moving is big deal especially to a work culture which is a bit strict considering west and Australia is more relaxed. Secondly the move should be paying off in terms of one leaving permanent jobs to jobs which have a one month notice period even being permanent. Lastly salaries in uae are no longer at the same level what they were before. After covid they have squeezed packages and considering the tax free portion is usually the incentive to move alongside the school fees they offer. Move to UAE if both husband and wife packages are good. I consider 35K aed plus school fees a good package to move for. Again it isn’t permanent there and tomorrow say they get affected by virus or iran war etc they will just ask you to leave. So decide based on circumstances
Totally agreed with the lady. There’s a greater difference with people of Pakistan only passport and dual citizenship holders want to change their lifestyle!!
Please tell her to explain both sides of the coin. If raising kids in Dubai is difficult please go ahead and raise kids amongst woke mentality in schools. You can raise your kids decently in Dubai but you have no right as a parent in USA
Also teenagers have more opportunities in US/CANADA LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE PROGRAMS SUITED TO DIFFERENT STUDENTS, THEN THE TRANSITION INTO UNIVERSITIES IS EASY PLUS THE SUPPLEMENTAL PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE AS IN STUDENT LOANS AND MANY SCHOLARSHIPS PROGRAMS.
If you compare USA with dubai there is no comparison
USA is a really fairwell country
And have stability since last over 100 years
Btw for u r I for many baloch have uae pspt but only baloch.
UAE ki apni life aur North America ki apni life so we cannot compared both countries dubai is a newly developed country and North America has its own and old identity ….. in madam kindn of people when they move to Canada or US to ye log apnay aap I don’t know Kia samajhna shru kardetay Hain 😊 over people
Majority of the people living in canada are living pay cheq to pay cheq,no saving..due to extreme cold temperatures, kids r unable to play outside. Mortgages and living costs are too much. Lgbt and related things in curricullum is another chalenge. Too much screen time is another big issue.atleast in duabi or in gulf, kids have silamic culture.
Regarding finances, unless and unless you do some business, it will take you somewhere in life but if you keep doing jobs for long, life would be on oay cheq to pay check. You earn and give money to state.
People migrate to US , Canada or other European countries for citizenship.If UAE would have given Citizen ship ppl wouldnt ever leave UAE.I think ppl should be thankful where ever they reside rather than talking negative about a country.Dubai is a luxurious country for sure but lets not forget tax free system.Besides its upon parents how u bring your children in that country.If you urself as parents control on extravagances your kids will follow ur footsteps.Iam born and brought up in UAE and I can say its one of the best countries I have come accross.U say ur kids r getting spoilt coz of extravagance but have u thought about the cultural indifferences like LGBT and after 18 kids leave their parents .So i think u must consider that too.
For saving my observation is so many Pakistan living abroad they need to support their family living in Pakistan like their parents their sibling education , sibling’s Wedding , etc and above that the family back in Pakistan they spent so loosely like so off to much. Under such circumstances is hard to save, Some of the parents abuse their children hard earned money .
Assalamualaikum, I know several families where only one spouse works in North America. It works fine!
here in dubai work is become life. not work part of life
Nice discussion. I have a question, in today's times is it worth it to move to Dubai if we have any Western passport? Salary will be high? And what other things I can get as a western passport holder?
To some extent yes - but now Dubai is very competitive and ONLY passport won’t land you in great job.
Market in Dubai is very uncertain and mainly based on references and direct contacts. Equality based procedures need to be improved.
I have never lived in Dubai but was about to move from Canada few months ago. Nothing wrong with Canada but we were concerned about the schooling. Then I cancelled my plan due to 3 reasons:
1- I asked my children and my 2nd child who is very straightforward told me that she does not want to move due to few reasons.
2- the work environment is hectic and at my age (42), I do not want to start again and adapt to that lifestyle.
3- (most important) I do not want to run away from the challenges related to school or security. Instead I want to face them specially since my kids were born here, they may not express their liking about the move but it impacts them. I value their feelings and I can sacrifice any luxury in a heartbeat to keep my family happy.
Money is important but after a certain point in life, it becomes less relevant.
I have been hearing Wali bhai and also heard sister Batool in the past. These are very valid points. Also for US, the grass is greener and they pay you well, and there are more opportunities but that is at the surface what attracts people to US. If you dig down, there are things that are missing such as extra holidays, long weekends, heavy dependence on employer’s health care plan etc. Health care may not be great in Canada but I can see a doctor without worrying about the healthcare billing and insurance expenses. Yes my employer tops up but we need to consider those who do not have a job and need medical attention. I had the opportunity to move to the US but I did not as my family and my in-laws are in Canada and living around family is a blessing. Lastly I am uncomfortable/ afraid of guns and do not like the gun culture in US.
Dear Wali
Thanks for the podcast, i have listened to all your podcasts featuring Bahroz and Batool.
One point i would like you to discuss in the case of Bahroz and family is that how much savings did they have when they move to Canada?
It is a very important decision factor, if someone does not have same level of savings as Bahroz and family, Do you think points raised by Batool and Bahroz on moving to Canada from ME are stil relevant?
Similar pointers are discussed in our upcoming podcast with Bahroz on English Channel - would be live on coming Saturday
although some points raised by Batool are relevant but most of the justifications made by her to not move to dubai seem very out of touch with reality.
Most people move from Canada to UAE
1. because of making money.
2. because of sever cultural problems.
What about the fact that people can save and make same money in 5 years what you they will save and make in canada in 15-20 years?
@@user-yr3to7tp6m - Don't look Canada in Isolation and in a short time span from wealth point of view.. it opens up the doors for you to move to USA or have access to USA economy which is very high on income levels and low on taxes.... my recommendation is to always look at things from a long term lens...
@@user-yr3to7tp6m Not True. Dubai you can earn and not save also. In Dubai you have to pay Child Tuition, Healthcare costs. Others costs also adds up. Also, compare the Salaries with the cost of living also. Cultural problem is overhyped also. Thousands of Desi kids are growing up in Canada without any so called "woke" issues. These kids are doing great in school and their careers in a country that they can call home. Middle East will never be home. You will always be a non-resident even with the so called Golden visa.
@@rameshpratap20
Agreed to most of what you are saying,
still in most situations people have better financial situation in middle.east as compared to Canada.
Whenever i am in Canada every second person i meet there wants to move to UAE mostly because of no savings there.
Middle east can't be home is not relevant here since we are discussing moving from Canada to UAE.,
you can move back to Canada whenever you want.
Bhaii Jaaan
Masti kam karo naaa. Saving bhii hogii or life bhii achii guzre gii.
Mrs Batool Raza please talk in urdu because people in all over the world are listening to this conversation. I live in Los angeles since last 38 years but I will always provide information in Urdu.
If not Pakistan, Australia is best - welfare country,much controlled, no gun culture, family, friendly, excellent weather, more jobs and higher salaries
Modern aunty Dubai has mosque after every five minutes where as in Canada u have mosque after every 5hrs
It seems private friends chat on public forum? Friends are talking
the biggest negative thing about Dubai is harsh weather, you just cant have any outdoor activities, which leads to unhealthy lifestyle especially for young's
Wali saab about relaxed lag rage hain ajj Kal.... Tees Maar Khan lagre janab
but how is she relevant to normal folks when she and her has and are definitely in high earning jobs,
Wali bhai sorry to say the lady was too much over thinker and protective for children but i have 2 kids here with me and studying online schooling which help me alot to give them right environment with over thinking like her
Issue raised by your guest is not something we can say point blank that Do not move if you have kids. This statement does not make sense. I believe put KPIs in perspective and discuss on it. Like normal day to day activity, ease of job and ease of business, health sector, housing, education e.t.c.
Good podcast
Im ingre im 20 hiyar in Dubai but no saifng
Aoa wali Bhai Pakistan me beth k out of country investment krny k bary me videos bnaen jazakallah
True
I agreed with both of them.. I am single and lived alone there but I got fad up with pakistanis specialy as they were so materialistic and showed off in terms of friendships and any relation. Comparision, copying of people from themselves even if they had to borrow money..I have an opposite nature and strong personality I never influenced with others lifestyle. That was the reason I left and blocked many so called friends as they were friends of borrow money to showoff themselves. Morover Jobs and your future is not secure there in UAE.
I thank Wali and Batool both . I now have pros and cons of both the countries .
I live in Dubai. My son and daughter in law moving to Canada from India next month on PR .
Good to hear from Batool that Canada has more number of holidays and also am excited to know about 18 months maternity leave policy of Canada 😅
Thanks for all the insights . 🙏
When your son and daughter in law will visit Canada then they will understand what Hell life is Canada
Life in Middle East country is better than Life in Canada